The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #31: Taylor O'Connor Flared-Up, Razor Burned & Out of Control

Episode Date: October 4, 2016

Taylor O'Conn0r aka "The Bare Naked Cucumber," joins Lauryn & Micheal to find some true romance on this installment of "The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast." Lauryn, Michael, & "The Bare Naked C...ucumber," discuss love, razor burn, The Life Rolls on Foundation, Taylor taking selfie's in Lauryn & Michael's LA bathroom mirror, getting ready for a "Skinny Confidential" mini vacay to Hawaii, Taylor Filming Michael's day to day, The "Him & Her Tips of the Week," & listener phone calls are taken for the first time! Tune in, for the hilarity, that ensues. To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide and Meal plan.  tired of combating inflammation & bloat? Want to feel lighter and sexier? Check out lauryn’s latest 7 day meal plan. In this simple & super effective plan you’ll find: + tsc grocery list with every ingredient you need for the 7 days. + what the f*ck to do when you love carbs guide. + quick and delicious recipes: breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner and dessert. You will also find 28 weeks worth of fat burning, muscle toning, 27 minute long, effective workouts you can do at home with no equipment. USE PROMO CODE: HIMANDHER at Checkout for 20% Off

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following program is a bare-naked cucumber. That was really cute. Everything's bare-naked but your chest. Well, I'm the bare-naked cucumber, not the bare-naked chested man. There's a difference. Girls like chest hair. What were you saying about yourself as a pineapple earlier? Well, I was trying to think of something that has hair on top and nothing on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:00:41 All right, all right, all right. Or pineapple. Hey, guys guys we are back with the skinny confidential him and her podcast we have the bare naked cucumber not chest here he has ironed his shirt for the show for those of you who don't know the bare naked cucumber i've never listened before his name is taylor o'connor he is kind of my he's like my right hand man lauren was describing him as my Dwight yesterday, and Dwight from The Office.
Starting point is 00:01:09 So I don't know how you want to take that one, Taylor. Just like Dwight. You're my Dwight. I guess that makes me like Michael Scott, which I guess we both lose in this situation. I'm Jan. You're Jan? That's, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I'm Lauren Everett, creator of the blog and brand The Skinny Confidential. We also have Michael. Yes, I'm Michael. I'm trying to keep up with Lauren, trying to make it through life. He loves a good slick back. Very, very high-maintenance woman.
Starting point is 00:01:34 No, Michael. I'm low-maintenance. Taylor, why don't you introduce yourself? Hi, my name's Taylor O'Connor. I guess the cat's out of the bag, and everybody knows my real name. It's really not the bare-naked cucumber. I work for Mile. I've worked for him forarenaked Cucumber. I worked for Miles.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I worked for him for about four or five years. I've known Michael and Lauren since they were little babies. Not little babies. That sounds real creepy. What? I've known you since I was like 15 or 12 or 15. No, 12. I met them in sixth grade.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So, I mean, still, we were young pups. And I've been friends with both of them ever since then. And here I am. He's like a herpy. He started off as our sound editor. Yeah, Michael, that's debatable. I don't know if he was the best sound editor. No offense. I basically just did.
Starting point is 00:02:14 It was like a paint-by-numbers process. I don't know what that means. Okay, so I want to thank you guys for subscribing and rating our podcast. You guys have been unbelievable with the ratings thank you so much we really really appreciate the reviews and the messages on social media and snapchat if you guys have not rated or reviewed the show please do so even if it's just one star just to drop us a line and let us know how we can continue to improve we love constructive feedback we do if you like show, let your friends know so we can continue to grow our awesome community and bring you guys free content. So with that, let's
Starting point is 00:02:53 recap our week. Well, first Taylor, it's been a while since you've been on the show. What do you been, uh, what have you been up to? How's the dating world? The last we heard from you, you were a broken man, heartbroken. It's been been about three weeks, or maybe four weeks since I've been on. I won the Better Body Contest by landslide. Not really by landslide. Weston still hasn't done the picture yet of him dressed like George Costanza on the couch. So we're still waiting for that. I've still continued to work out.
Starting point is 00:03:21 My pants don't fit anymore, so I need to basically either buy an entire new wardrobe or a new belt. So it's basically living the life of a bodybuilder and looking good. Oh, God. Speaking of that, we just discovered that you were taking selfies in our bathroom the other night when we were dead asleep. Taylor stayed at our house up here in LA. He was... No, not selfies. He was taking mirror selfies of himself without his shirt on in our bathroom saying how good the lighting was when it's not good at all. You had like 100 photos. You were asking me which one you liked better.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Super creepy and weird. No, I have to actually say the lighting in their bathroom is perfect. It's kind of like a dark dungeon illuminated by a little candlelight. It's the worst lighting I've ever seen. The pectoral muscle, it's like... Did it hide your razor burn? If I ever had something, something yes there was a couple that's why you almost lost the better body contest because in a couple of shots people could see the razor burn from your shave um the night before can you get
Starting point is 00:04:16 a good razor man it is a good razor i think they're all you might want to check see if that thing's got a little bit of rust on it yeah Yeah. I think you've used it too much. I think it's time for a new one. Now I know what to get you for your birthday. So Taylor has just been, you know, tindering, bumbling, kind of being single, having his moment. Are you having fun? Like, let's get into it. The single life sucks, as everybody knows, because you go back and forth meeting people that suck.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Actually, wait, no. I probably shouldn't say that. Maybe they don't suck. It's just probably just you meet a lot of people that definitely aren't for you until you bounce around like a pinball until you find the right person. That little hole and you just get, you know, rocketed out. I don't know where you come up with your analogies, but. They're weird. They're weird. Michael, didn't you say that you already knew what your Bumble bio would be? Yeah. My Bumble profile would just say the skinny confidentials
Starting point is 00:05:09 X. And I feel like I wouldn't even need to do much. That's just, that would just work for me. Well, I'm glad that we're getting married in a month and you know what your Bumble profile would be. Unless I run away at the altar. Runaway bride. So you're loving being single or you're hating it, Taylor. I feel like you are not really giving us a crystal clear answer. I mean, I definitely, like I've said before, it's all about finding the right person. And then that's when you actually make that jump from being single to in a committed relationship. So I just, when the time is right, I think that's the best place to strike. But again, you got to go through a lot of jokers before you get the king or the queen.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You're going for the king now. Okay. The queen. The analogies are coming today. Interesting. So if any of you have not had a chance to listen to last week's podcast with our friend Danny Kurtzman, I think, you know, I usually don't plug previous episodes, but I think that's a really valuable episode to listen to.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I think you should go back, take a listen. Danny is a really, really inspiring guy. We got a lot of really positive feedback about a lot of people felt really moved, felt really motivated. So check that out. It was a really good show. And after that show, Lauren and I went to the Life Rolls On charity event, which was really moving for us as well. It was amazing. If you guys are looking for a charity to support, check out Life Rolls On. Basically, they provide an area for people in wheelchairs to surf and skate.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And they kind of, I mean, I think they're making people's dreams come true. I mean, some of these kids are doing things that I would never do myself. They're dropping in 12-foot bowls in their chairs and they're surfing. I mean, it's pretty amazing. And, you know, I'm, you know, Danny, if you're listening, I'm actually really proud of you as well, because he's taken his situation and, you know, he's a little bit older than some of these kids. So he's kind of set the example and
Starting point is 00:06:55 shown them the way and said, Hey, listen, you can live your life, you know, to the fullest. You don't have to be limited, you know, and I'm proud of him for doing that. Yeah. He totally hasn't victimized himself. He's leading with, with strength and motivation. And instead of leading with fear or, or saying, woe is me every day, he wakes up, he kicks ass and he repeats. Yeah. So, you know, if you want to, if you want to check out the charity, it's life rolls
Starting point is 00:07:17 on, uh, to donate, go to life rolls on.org and click donate. It's easy. It'll help a lot of people. Lauren and I have donated, you know, it's, it's a, it's a really good feeling to help others. So check that out. So we are headed to Hawaii for a quick break between, you know, heart attacks of the wedding. Yeah. Little, little three dayer quick in and out, maybe a little skinny pina colada. If these bills keep going up for this wedding and these donkey tacos keep rising in costs,
Starting point is 00:07:48 I mean, seriously, what you should invest in is these tacos down in Cabo because they're more valuable than gold, apparently. Are we still on that subject? No, I mean, if these prices keep rising, I might just stay in Hawaii and, I don't know. Okay, Michael, it's my wedding. Serve pina coladas on the beach.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah, I know. Maybe you have to take a second job. I don't know. Figure it out. Wedding, wedding. Taylor, aren't you excited for our wedding? I'm very excited to actually wear my new suit. Or can I even call it new since it's been two years?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Well, you bought a suit two years ago when we got, or three years, whatever it is when we got engaged, two years ago. That was three years ago. No, it's two. Michael, we got engaged three and a half years ago. Well, in my defense, I bought the suit because they said, oh, we're going to get married this upcoming November. And that November came and passed two different times.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And now you need to get it tailored because you lost your gut weight. Yeah, I look like an early version of Arnold Schwarzenegger in his young years when he was Mr. Olympia. Ooh, even Kevin's laughing now. I wouldn't go that far. Maybe it's too far. Yeah, this one's a bit too far. So Taylor has challenged me to a workout. I said, anytime, anyplace, anywhere, if he wins, he gets a cash prize.
Starting point is 00:08:53 If I win, which I will, of course, I get to hang him upside down in some kind of contraption that we haven't figured out yet by his underpants. So he's going to be hanging upside down in your underwear, and the whole office gets to throw rotten fruit and vegetables at you. Do you agree? Well, I imagine it like an old saloon where they, the juggler goes up there and sucks. So they just start throwing, I don't know wherever they get these rotten fruits and rotten vegetables, but they throw it at me. I don't know why. I'm so confident that I'm going to win that. I'm going to buy a bunch of fruit and vegetables and let them rot and then hang you upside down. And we're just going to, you know, I just got to get my throwing arm ready.
Starting point is 00:09:25 That's the only thing I'm worried about. Can I, if he loses, can we do a tutorial on the skinny confidential of you showing us how to shave? I would do that. I'll do a one, a one step,
Starting point is 00:09:36 two step, three step to completion. And then you can see the after effects too, of how much better it looks. This is what it'll look like. My arm, just big rotten cabbage coming right at you. No,
Starting point is 00:09:44 I want, I'm serious. I'm challenging you right now in public to an actual fitness competition yeah i said anytime any place get the rotten fruit ready hopefully pick out some good underpants get a shave doing before because we're going to be filming this and yeah i'm pretty sure everybody's excited to see you hanging getting fruit thrown at you michael has now decided that he's going to film his every move. Yeah, I'm documenting every move. Taylor's following me around with the camera.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Excuse me while I go projectile vomit. So that's been interesting. We don't know what we're going to yet do with the footage, but we're gathering it up. We're going to figure something out. I'm sure everyone's waiting at the edge of their seat. Well, I just think we get into these weird situations, and I just think that it needs to be documented. Not only that, but you actually do, you go to a lot of meetings and you do a lot of business
Starting point is 00:10:26 oriented things all the time. Not necessarily by the standard in the office, sitting near your desk, you know, typing away at the computer. So it's kind of an interesting way to be able to document what it is that he, that he does on a day to day basis outside of the office, but still business oriented. I think you're just a little jealous that you don't have somebody filming you. Nope, Michael. Wrong again. Wrong again. Michael does go to a lot of interesting meetings that's
Starting point is 00:10:49 behind the scenes that I'm sure would be fun to bring you guys along. But the dynamic between you and Taylor when I'm not around is quite interesting. I feel like you need a little feminine energy to balance it out. Well, speaking of meetings, we did how many yesterday? Five, six in a row. I think it was about seven about six to seven hours just nonstop of meetings. Because something's coming. Yeah. Actually, I will say I saw it for the first time. I'm not going to say what it is.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Okay. So let's just preface this. The Skinny Confidential is launching a product. It's something that you can use every day, and Taylor saw it yesterday. For the first time. I had seen light mock-ups of it, but I actually saw the physical product and I'm products. You're right. There's, there's more than one and they are amazing. Absolutely amazing. The quality is amazing. I got to see the way
Starting point is 00:11:35 they look and I'm really excited, not just for Lauren, but just because I think everybody will like this. It has a very, very tangible. It's basically you can use it every day. And I'm excited to see what everybody else thinks of it. But I was actually blown away. And I'm impressed by everything that she's done. We've been working on it for, I don't know, a while now. You've been obviously working on your brand for even longer. But this is going to be an interesting next step.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It's going to be fun. It's something you've never done before. So it's, you know, it's something that I want you guys, the readers, the listeners to help cultivate too. And I've, I've asked you guys color choices and there'll be more, um, kind of, kind of teasers and questions for you guys, because I want to make sure that it's what the community likes too. And not just, you know, all my opinion. I do want to make sure it's something that I would use every day, which it is. I'm very excited. So yeah, you'll learn more and we're excited to share it with you. There'll be an announcement on the blog soon. I've got one quick question. Is that the, is this the first time you've actually
Starting point is 00:12:37 branched over into the physical product? I know that you had your book, but is this the actual, the first physical product that you've ever released? I have the book, so that's probably the first physical product I released. I released that two years into the Skinny Confidential. Now it's six years later, so I just have more tools now and more people on my team. So I think that this one's going to be really exciting. And then we're also doing kind of like a side thing here, too, that's coming up. So there's a couple different things happening that will kind of engage the community more.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So very excited about that. Just moving, working, hustling. Yep. So before we get into the tips and, you know, we're going to get into the break and we're excited this week because we are actually going to have some call-ins from some listeners. Like, you know, we have like an official studio so we can do that now. So radio. So radio. studio so we can do that now so radio so radio but i wanted to talk about an article that was passed along to lauren and i this week that has a lot of people fired up a lot of people in the
Starting point is 00:13:30 influencer blogger social media space fired up it has me fired up for a different reason but it was an article by vogue and some vogue editors called chow milano vogue.com's editors discussed the week that was and it's all about influencers and bloggers at fashion week in the fashion space and basically to sum it up and i'll read i'll let lauren kind of talk on a little bit and i'll read some quotes from the article but from what i can tell it's a bunch of bitter vogue editors pissed off that the industry is changing yeah the landscape of this industry of the fashion industry is changing. Yeah. The landscape of this industry of the fashion industry is changing and that, you know, influencer and bloggers are partaking in,
Starting point is 00:14:10 you know, fashion week and in the fashion industry. And I just think I'm going to have a lot to say a little bit on it, but it's pretty funny. I'm going to let Lauren take over and I have a different take than she's going to have, but it's, you know, it's, it's funny to watch these people complain. It's like fighting the ocean. I mean, it's interesting to me that an industry like, not an industry, but an institution like Vogue is trying to stop change and trying to stop people from evolving. They should be supporting it and supporting other women. And they're basically saying that bloggers need to get the fuck out of fashion week, which is ridiculous because bloggers have become a part of the culture. So it's just interesting to see someone like Vogue, who's usually so avant-garde and so on
Starting point is 00:14:54 top of it and so fresh and so new, resisting the evolution of the industry. Yeah. I'm going to read a quote here, and this is from Sarah Mauer. So I'm calling you out, Sarah. So yes, Sally, the professional blogger bit with the added aggression of the street photographer swarm who attend them is horrible, but most of all, pathetic for these girls. When you watch how many times the desperate troll up and down outside shows and traffic risking accidents, even in hopes of being snapped. So, you know, the thing here is this comes up as somebody to me reading this as an outsider, very bitter. My problem with this is not so much that bloggers are being shunned by Vogue or that they're being called out. My biggest problem is
Starting point is 00:15:37 with big business. And when I say big business, it's Vogue. The fact that these people are complaining that influencer and bloggers are in the space just shows how out of touch and out of date they are. I mean, with time comes change. And if you don't adapt to that change and recognize, hey, influencers, bloggers, social media is going to play a big part in our future, your business is not going to be able to keep up. So my biggest problem is not so much with the bloggers or these editors. It's that Vogue has taken a stance where they are shunning positive change into their industry and they're trying to fight it. And it's like, you're not going to stop social media. You're not going to stop these influencers.
Starting point is 00:16:14 That's where consumer attention is. If people want to look and see what these girls are doing, that can only help your business. I actually think it's desperate and pathetic of Sarah to even be calling bloggers out like this on an online medium such as Vogue. I mean, it's weird because brands are putting so much money right now into bloggers and influencers, and that's where the eyes are. And maybe Vogue's feeling threatened that brands are kind of taking away from the magazine medium. Well, and Vogue has put influencers on their covers on international covers, so it doesn't make any sense. But the fact of the matter is, is, you know, influencers can help sell product. Influencers can help sell magazines. So there's no reason
Starting point is 00:16:53 to be pissed off about it. You might as well embrace the change and see how you can work together to find a common goal. And that's my biggest problem is I don't really care if influencers feel shunned or bloggers feel disincluded. It's more about big business not understanding and evolving with change. That's my biggest issue. Anyways, that's all I want to... I don't really have much more to say on it. I just think the whole thing is kind of a joke. I'm glad that a bunch of bloggers and influencers spoke up on social media and utilized their
Starting point is 00:17:18 platforms like Instagram with millions of followers to call Vogue out because they need to be called out on their bullshit. I don't give a shit if it's Vogue. To be talking about bloggers and influencers like that and then having bloggers and influencers on their Instagram everywhere is hypocritical. Not to mention, one of the most liked Instagram pictures on Vogue's Instagram is of bloggers.
Starting point is 00:17:38 No, it's ironic. I mean, like I said, it just sounds like bitter girls bullying people. And my problem is obviously not, it's with the bullying, but more with Vogue and not with them, not, you know, adapting with change and embracing change and recognizing that social media is a huge tool to use. So that's, that's my issue. Not very strategic Vogue. So the reason being also just, I have to throw in a little tidbit is it's not only is it a new medium, but it's also a competitive platform versus the big business, like you said. So instead of it being, for instance, like Snapchat or anything else where necessarily they don't directly compete, these bloggers are taking away from a lot of essentially the traditional mediums that Vogue would use to be able to expose whatever they're doing, if it's a fashion week or fashion everything else.
Starting point is 00:18:25 But now the bloggers are taking away a lot of the steam from the big businesses. I don't think they're taking away a lot of steam, though. I think they're enhancing it. And I think for these magazines to say, they're kind of taking the stance like, hey, you can't join this club. And it's like when the kids go to the beach and they fight the waves crashing in and they think they're going to beat the ocean. It's like you might as well just go with the flow.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You know what I mean? And understand that, hey, we can all work together here and find a common ground. They won't. They'll never work together. It's because old businesses always resist anything. Change. Change in the industry. They always, they'll grasp.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You've said it before. They'll grasp. They'll hold on to it until there's basically nothing left. And, you know, they no longer hold the majority of the business. So before we start taking these calls, we're going to quickly do the tip of the week. Lauren, what's your tip this week? My tip of the week is portion control. It is so important if you're trying to manage your weight or lose weight or whatever you're trying to do kind of health-wise. I have noticed that when I buy smaller bowls and plates, I eat less.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So I actually went to Anthropologie and found these tiny little bowls. They're called Inside Out Bowls. I've blogged about them before. I think they're $8 each. They're super cute. They're like light pink and light teal. And there's one that has red and blue on it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I have a bunch of them. And when I'm craving something like chips or popcorn or crackers or Cheez-Its or flaming hot Cheetos or what the fuck ever, I put it in these little tiny bowls and they're not tiny. I would say they're like a little bit bigger than your fist. So you feel like you're getting like a substantial amount of a treat. You put it in the bowl and you finish the bowl and you feel satisfied. The worst thing you can do, and this is from experience, is eat out of the bag. So if you're trying to watch your weight, which I am for my wedding, I'm trying to really tighten up and tone up. You guys know that if you follow me on Snapchat, I'm doing the Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide at least four days a week. You know, I don't want to ruin that
Starting point is 00:20:24 in the kitchen. So if I'm craving something, I'll just put it in my little inside out bowl. I will leave the link on Twitter for you guys. And, um, as far as proportion control goes, I also have a whole list of portion control for other things like, like a piece of chicken or steak in my book. Mine's a little bit different, a lot different. It involves confrontation, which Lauren's not the biggest fan of. Taylor, I don't know about you. But it's kind of, it's about calling people on their shit from the beginning. In a relationship, in a business relationship, partnership, friendship, whatever. It's basically, you know, people trying to get away with bullshit
Starting point is 00:21:00 and you letting them get away with it. If you let people get away with shit from the beginning, it's only going to get worse. So, you know, sometimes it's a little bit uncomfortable, and sometimes things get ruined. But I would much rather call someone on their shit from the start, set the tone, say, hey, this is what I'm about. I hope you can respect that. And, you know, that's how I set the tone of the relationships that I'm in. And I think that if you do that, you kind of protect yourself from the future of, you know, things getting derailed and people being difficult and just acting like assholes. So maybe think about confronting people a little bit more, call them on their shit, let them know when something's not working for you. Explain why don't be a dick about it. Just
Starting point is 00:21:37 say, Hey, you know, that doesn't work for me. And here's why. And that's my tip of the week. We will be right back with some collins the very naked cucumber is going to get down you're excited aren't you uh you know what the reason being is it's unscripted so they it could go anywhere so we'll see where it goes especially with that furry chest that you have i'm like a leopard no i don't know what that was let's take a break i gotta take a break i need some coffee. Everybody likes to get stuff for free, right? Yes! Well then how would you like two months of Podcast One Premium for free? Just by giving
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Starting point is 00:22:51 Here we go. Hello? Hi. Is this Mia? This is. Mia, where are you calling from? I am calling from Rochester, New York. Hi, Mia. It's Lauren. I feel like we're friends because we Snapchat all the time. I know. Hi. This is so great. I know. I'm so glad that you're our first caller. This is so exciting.
Starting point is 00:23:11 We have Taylor here. Hi, Mia. Oh, cool. Hi. How are you guys? I think she's one of the most diehard fans ever. I don't think we'd have a show without her. No, I don't think she...
Starting point is 00:23:19 I think she's just fun. She's like a friend. I don't know if she's a big fan of you, though. Yeah, no. I'm not either, though. Everybody's like a friend. I don't know if she's a big fan of you, though. Yeah, no. I'm not either, though. Everybody's a fan of me. Mia, Taylor, what are your thoughts on Taylor? He kind of blew it, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:23:32 A little bit, yeah. But then also, I do have to say, I'm a little bit confused. You gave him so many chances yesterday to kick himself. And all he could say was that he was awesome, but like, no one knows why he's awesome. Yeah. Why are you awesome?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Well, I mean, you can't really give something. So, so you can't really take something so great and expect them to be able to sum themselves up. I don't get what you're saying. Like,
Starting point is 00:23:58 let's be clear. Let's speak English. Why are you so awesome? I just say I have everyone. You have to come find out for yourself. It's kind of hard. Wait, what? It's hard to describe myself because I could list a laundry list of things.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We'd love to hear the laundry list. Here's the thing, though. If you're pitching a business that's so awesome and you're pitching an idea that's so awesome, you have to have key points as to why it's the same thing. I'm caring. I like to cook. You're getting put on the spot here. What do you cook?
Starting point is 00:24:27 I can cook anything. Are you kidding me? Like what? Give us an example. I can cook salmon with quinoa. It's a Jamaican jerk salmon. Delicious. Everybody loves it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's a, I can do chicken. I can do anything. Whatever it is, I would say this. Whatever it is you want, I'll cook and I'll make happen. Can't wait to take you up on that. But you cannot impress Mia. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:47 So, I mean, if I wanted to present myself and I guess I had 10 words, I don't even know what I would say because I would probably write every – if I had 10 different times to say it, I'd probably say 10 different things. Okay. Let's stick with the top five. That's all I can handle for today. Top five. Shaved. Oh, I mean shaved. I mean, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Awkward. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm not awkward. Okay. I'm weird. I mean, okay. Awkward. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm not awkward. Okay. I'm weird. I'm intelligent. I'm active.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I'm delusional about your athletic ability. Muscular. I would definitely say, did I say caring already? I think I did. That was number one. Caring is so boring. Anyone that says they're caring, like I'm asleep. Is it really?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Okay. Then you're not caring. Then that's what I mean. Everything. I feel like every description that i could use has been used so i mean if you could ask if you say caring maybe you should say like compassionate compassionate yeah get a better like like i'm compassionate i'm i'm we need to i'm a man's man but still sensitive to your needs i feel like i'm doing
Starting point is 00:25:42 like you need to go look at synonyms for caring. Yeah, exactly. So Mia, is there anything you want to ask Taylor? I don't know about him like in particular. No, she doesn't want to ask Taylor questions. She has other questions. I'm just like a little bit curious like why he's so, I don't know. You know what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:26:08 I'm going to find an answer for you today. I'm going to do some research on myself, and I'm going to come back. I'll have a good answer for you for that, because I feel like anything that I say just seems contrived at the moment. You're going to do research on yourself? No, I mean, I'm going to make sure I find the right descriptive terms. just seems contrived at the moment you're gonna do research on yourself no i mean i'm gonna do i want to make sure i find the right descriptive terms you just really have to you're just trying like like too hard like just be like natural oh this is me this is the scary thing though this
Starting point is 00:26:36 is natural trust me that's where it's a little concerned i move a thousand miles a minute you do okay so it's hard to kind of slow down. A thousand miles in the wrong direction. At least some movement for the sake of movement. Is there any question in particular that we can answer? Or did you just want to ask Taylor why he's so weird? Because that's a question in itself. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:26:57 No, I guess I... What kind of keeps you guys focused? Because now, I've been working freelance now on my own and starting a blog relatively soon. But just kind of what keeps you guys focused, you guys always have so many different projects and things going on. And I think I'm always running a million miles a minute. I think what it is, is having a long term goal over a short term goal. And we've talked about
Starting point is 00:27:23 this, we've posted about this in the past, it's, you know, it's kind of having a vision, not a year from now, a month from now, but, you know, five, 10 years from now. And I think when you're looking at something in that, that timeframe and that, in that spectrum, you're, you can kind of stay a little bit more focused. I think a lot of people get really nervous and they kind of get caught up in what's going to happen right now or tomorrow or next month or next year. So it distracts them from their mission. Lauren and I have a very clear vision of where we want to go in the next five to 10 years. So when we're looking that far down the road, it's easy to make long-term decisions and stay focused. And when you get caught making short-term decisions, it can kind of feel hectic and chaotic. So I think that's
Starting point is 00:28:09 kind of my answer to that. Yeah, I think you put your blinders on and you focus on what your overall long-term goal is. And as I always say, stay in your own lane. Don't worry about what everyone else is doing. Don't worry about what your parents want from you. Don't worry about what your friends think. They're not signing your paycheck. So I just think it's really important to stay true to what you want to do and where you want to go and just really, really focus on that vision. And every morning you wake up, kind of repeat that mission statement. I kind of have a mission statement that I repeat every day I wake up. But when I meditate, I'll meditate for like five or 10 minutes and I'll just really fixate on that mission statement of the overall goal and not just in business and in relationships or, or whatever it is. And I swear when you manifest that and cultivate it, things happen and just
Starting point is 00:28:53 chip away every single day, do a little something that's, that's towards the bigger goal. Anything else, Taylor, you want to add anything you want to say bye to Mia? You want to thank you for calling in. It's nice to actually talk to you. Give her one more adjective about like how you are daring daring very daring we gotta work thank you thank you for calling we appreciate the support and the call thank you mia it's nice to meet you and mia email me because i want to send you a skinny confidential book oh awesome okay great all right thank you okay we have another caller. Her name is Lacey, and she is from Seattle. Lacey, hello.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Hi, Lacey. Hi. Hi, Lacey. Hey, guys. Lacey, you've got such a beautiful voice. Taylor, can you not creep the caller right off the gate? Give her a minute. Give her a minute.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm just a compliment right out of the gate. That's a little awkward for a first call. That's the theme of today. He's awkward. So, Lacey, we have to ask, because Taylor wanted me to ask you this, because he's too embarrassed. Do you like shaved or bare? No, shaved or unshaved. Oh, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Shaved or unshaved. I actually am gay, and I don't go that way. But I know that my best friend prefers the beard, she thinks that taylor should keep the beard and lose the fedora i know a fedora is a small one this is like a full-blown cowboy hat agree i don't know what this new look is yeah we don't we don't think it brings his face well really i told him the same thing he kind of looks like a junk version of indiana jones so exactly i'm actually you know what i'm gonna going to take her advice, and I think her description was good.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's very possible that my face may be too rigid for such a classic hat. I don't know if you'd describe yourself as rigid. The adjectives you're using today are out of control. I feel like he looks like Woody from the Toy Story with that hat on. There's a snake in my boot. I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:30:42 That's a hat. Yeah, but Woody is a sex machine. Are you kidding me? He did, what is it, Little Bo Peep, and she had's a pass. Yeah, but Woody is a sex machine. No. Are you kidding me? He did, what is it, Little Bo Peep, and she had all those sheep. No, but Woody is nerdy. He's not a sex machine. Oh, are you kidding me? The nerd always gets the girl.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I don't know about that hat. Let's sell him. So your best friend, she doesn't want him bare, and she doesn't like the hat. So he's doing everything wrong is what I'm hearing. Basically, but we can work without the fedora and with more scruff more scruff meaning more scruff down below or on my face no no definitely on your face oh i mean i can grow a full-blown beard like some guy who got lost in the woods and it's gone insane i would like his razor burn covered up down there though that would be great if you could do a little scruff down there
Starting point is 00:31:20 maybe we could get you like a little bit of makeup to put over the razor burn the razor burn is a little but then that's like a red tide that's admitting it's happened i just like i'm it's i'm Maybe we could get you a little bit of makeup to put over the razor burn. The razor burn is a little... It's like a red tide. That's admitting it's happened. I'm hoping that no one notices. It's documented all over Snapchat. I'm going to do a blog post on razor burn. Yeah, but it went away after 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I would love that. It looks like you smeared a bunch of raspberries on your stomach. Yeah, it actually was. I had a bad flare-up that day. A flare-up? Actually, a flare-up is the worst word to say. All right, Lacey. It literally looked like you needed to go to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Ooh. So between the hat, the flare-up. Yeah, the flare-up's not a good word to use. So, Lacey, if we could answer any questions. Is there anything we can answer on any subject? You want to know anything about Taylor? You want to know about his weird habits? You want to know anything about Lauren, her weird habits? I don't have any weird habits. That's debatable. That's
Starting point is 00:32:09 debatable. Yeah, definitely. I would say my first question would be for Lauren and Michael, which would be, have you ever worked in a hostile work environment? And how did you deal? Absolutely. Oh my god, I've worked in the most hostile environment. Every day we're in a hostile. No, no, no, no. I actually have worked in a very hostile environment. The first one, because there's been a couple, was I was a bartender. I'm sure that, I mean, I talk about it a lot that I was a bartender at a very high end bar, meaning not high end like Ruth Chris, but like the clientele was very lucrative, very wealthy, very entitled.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And when you're a bartender and there's a lot of men around that are entitled, they do things in front of you because you're almost like a fixture in the restaurant. You're not like, they treat you like you're not a person. So for like four to five years, I was treated like I almost was an object. And I mean, I was treated like I almost was an object. And, I mean, I had men grab my ass. I had a thong flicked at me by a woman with a snail trail on it. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:33:16 In the face while I was bartending. That's a true story. I almost want to write a book. How did you not walk out? Towards the end, I started to be done. I tried to hold my composure. I also was bartending, remember, so I could have a glass of wine or two, which was helpful. I just really was focused on the skinny confidential. And when I would go in there, I would go in with my briefcase and leave with my briefcase and I would detach from it and just put my head down and do what I had to do to
Starting point is 00:33:42 get through to the other side, which was the skinny confidential. So my advice, if you're in a hostile work environment and you absolutely hate it, is make steps to get out of it. So every time you go to work, you're focused on what's going to happen on the other side. And it's so funny, and I have to tell you this. I have so many of these men that I waited on for years that I was, that I waited on for years and years that email me now asking me to help their daughter, help their sister, help, help their social media business. And it's, I have to laugh because it's hilarious. I mean, I remember five, maybe six years ago when they would look at me and say, what do you mean you're going to be a
Starting point is 00:34:20 blogger? So, so you just kind of have to have the last laugh there. Just really, really focus on what your goal is. Walk in with your briefcase and leave with it. Yeah. My, my, I'm a big fan of the, I feel, and what do you suggest when you're dealing with dickheads? You know, you kind of, you kind of turn it on them. You say, you know, like I feel this way because of this, what do you suggest we do to fix it? And it kind of flips it on them and makes them kind of have to answer for being a dick or being an asshole. So, you know, I'm a big fan of kind of manipulating the atmosphere and, you know, turning it on them whenever there's some hostility. And most of the time they kind of, they kind of argue themselves out of their, you know, out of their position. So, you know, when you're in a hostile position, I would think about kind
Starting point is 00:35:02 of talking about like how you feel and what they suggest. Because most of the time, they're not going to have much to say. Just make sure you're having a strategy of attack of how to get out of there or else you will be miserable. I can guarantee that. Before I had the Skinny Confidential, I was working in another environment, which was with a lot of women. And it was like a bottle service type thing. And it was just so competitive and catty. And I didn't have that thing like the Skinny Confidential, and it was just, it was like a bottle service type thing and it was just so competitive and catty and I didn't have that thing
Starting point is 00:35:27 like the Skinny Confidential and it was depressing. So I would definitely recommend having a strategy on how to get out of the situation. Yeah, I think that's it. Thank you, Lacey. Thank you, Lacey, for calling in.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It was nice meeting you. Thank you, Lacey. Taylor will write down the tips. I'm going to burn the hat. He's burning the hat. Thank God. It was so nice to meet you. Can you email me too because I want to send you a Skinny Confidential book?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Oh, my God. Thank you so much, Lauren. I would love that. Yay, yay, yay. My email is Lauren with a Y at the Skinny Confidential. Okay. Thanks, Lauren. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Have a great day. Thank you. You too. I'm really liking these call-ins. This is fun. We have another caller. Her name is Victoria. She's calling in from Dallas, Texas.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Victoria, are you there? Yeah. Yeehaw. Everything's bigger in Texas. Hey, Victoria. Oh, God. That's Taylor. I'm sorry for that intro.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I could have guessed that. How are you? I'm good. How are you guys? Hi, Victoria. Victoria. Hi. Hi.
Starting point is 00:36:24 So I've got to ask you, are you wearing Victoria's Secret? Jesus Christ. Here we go. What a weird question. What a weirdo. No, I'm not. Aw, come on. Every single caller in has called you weird or awkward today.
Starting point is 00:36:35 That's literally the theme. We're getting you a shirt that says that. You're 0 for 3. Yeah. Yeah, so far, I actually would be taken out of the game back on the bench. Yeah, what a weird question. Can she just, like, be? Yeah, is this not panning out for you, Taylor?
Starting point is 00:36:47 No. Have you gotten any interesting answers? You know what? I'm hoping that you can redeem myself and anybody else. You better be careful. I think you need to redeem. I don't think she can redeem. I think you need to redeem yourself.
Starting point is 00:36:57 So describe yourself in three adjectives. I'm just curious. I want to turn the tables on them, actually. So let's hear it. Describe yourself. In three adjectives. Okay, it could be five. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:37:08 It could just be a description. Yeah, it could be a description. Well, I would say I'm spontaneous and creative and inquisitive. I love it. Look at her adjectives compared to yours. Taylor's today. I'm going to steal these. So I'm spontaneous.
Starting point is 00:37:26 He's writing them down so that he can tell people that these are his adjectives. His adjective today was that he was caring. Yeah, I guess caring is stupid. Nobody wants a caring person anymore. Yeah. Nobody cares about anybody. Everybody's selfish. What's the worst?
Starting point is 00:37:39 You don't really strike me as caring either. That's not the first adjective I've heard. So what do you think? Are you a fan of a man who goes bare, or do you like it rugged and hairy? God, here we go. This is what I have to deal with. Oh, my God. I should have suspected this coming from the Barenaked Cucumber.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Of course. Yeah, no. I don't want wild beasts going on down there. See? Exactly. That doesn't mean that she said that she doesn't want some shaved razor burn medley. It could be a wild beast, but in Taylor's case, it is a raspberry smeared razor burn bear child.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That happens once out of every ten times. Not with that flare up, I don't. But just say, let's pretend that you're going out on a date and you've had one or two wines and your man's going, ooh, okay, hey baby, it's getting in the mood and you pulled the trousers down and down there it's like a little, would you rather- It's a little? No, no, okay, hey, baby, it's getting in the mood. And you pulled the trousers down. And down there, it's like a little, you know, would you rather. It's a little? No, no, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:29 No, no. Let me finish this. I was going to say, there's nothing at all, at all. It's completely bare. So it's little and there's nothing at all. Kind of like after a clean, not a clean shaving. What is it? A clean waxing?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Do you go, do you think to yourself, this is fucking awkward? Or do you go, you think to yourself this is fucking awkward or do you go oh baby I think you need to go back to your list of adjectives to re-describe that because all of that sounds alarming you need a thesaurus like ASAP she says that that sounds very alarming there was no moment in there where it sounded like she was turned on
Starting point is 00:38:58 excited or infatuated I could hear her being disgusted on the other line he's described his down parts today as flared up, little, and nothing there. No, no, trust me, it is not fucking little.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Like a little raspberry. It is definitely not little. Well, you did tell us on air that it was six and a half inches. Yeah, six and a half inches, that is fucking big, okay? We can do better. Okay, yeah, ten inches is big, but we're getting into uncharted territories for maybe one in every one millionth man here. I feel like you Googled what's a good size.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Okay, so here's a quick question. This is maybe a little too invasive, but would you, okay, so for you, are you a fan of girth or width? Oh my God, I'm sorry. Don't even answer that question. I know, who are you? We're cutting that out. OK, sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:48 He's in timeout. Victoria, do you have a question for Michael and I? Maybe that's a little more PG than Taylor's disgustingness. Yes, there. Yes, it's much more PG. So my reason for wanting to speak with you guys is because about four months ago, I quit my eight to five because that whole rigid structure just was not working. So I started working in retail again, and I made the decision to move back home to Florida in about a month. And I'm going to be saving up money because next summer, I'm going to be traveling the U.S. by myself with one carry-on. And so during this whole trip, ahead of time and
Starting point is 00:40:27 while I'm there, I'll be documenting all of it. I did start a blog for that. And I had a question for you specifically, Lauren, was how do you balance maintaining your blog when you're on the trip itself and still kind of staying in the moment and enjoying the trip? Well, first of all, I think that's awesome what you're doing. Go you. That's amazing. You're living, you're living for experiences. I think that's really cool. As far as balancing while you're traveling, I have to tell you, I actually get more done when I'm traveling. I find that there's so many distractions at home, whether it's my family or my friends or the office or, you know, employees or just day to day that when I'm traveling, there's a big burden that's taken off, um, you know, my chest.
Starting point is 00:41:10 So I actually can just write. It's very, very strange. Whenever I travel, I'm, I'm way more inspired. And I think what you'll find cause you're traveling by yourself is that if you set an hour to two aside a day and go outside and like, say, if you're in Paris, you go outside, have an espresso, bring your computer and just write. I think a big misconception is that when bloggers travel, they don't work. I'm working the entire time. So that's probably my advice there. Michael, do you have any advice about that? No, just to kind of touch on that.
Starting point is 00:41:43 There's an author named Dan Norris, who's written, I think three to four books now. And he actually, he says that he has actually written most of his books on plane flights and while he's been traveling, because he finds a little bit more inspiration. So I think while you're enjoying your travels, you're also going to be inspired hopefully. And it's going to make the writing process a little bit easier. So, you know, a lot of people are into the whole like create thing. I'm a bigger fan of document. So as you're traveling, be documenting what you're doing. And I think you'll be inspired to write about those experiences.
Starting point is 00:42:14 So I don't think I have a problem there. Also reading, Michael just said, I like to read a lot while I'm traveling too. So you read, you write, you create, and you're inspired and you don't have all the day-to-day distraction and errands. Yeah, that all makes a lot of sense. And I'm definitely going to look into Dan Norris. Is that who you said? Yeah, I think that's his name. I think he wrote the book, The Seven Day Startup Content Machine. Content Machine's great.
Starting point is 00:42:36 They're all good books. He just did one on a brewery. But yeah, so check him out. Congratulations for traveling like that. That's exciting. Thank you, Victoria. Thank you for calling in, Victoria. Victoria, will you email email me too because i want to send you a skinny confidential book oh yeah definitely i'd love that yay it's it's lauren with a y at the skinny confidential.com and sorry for the bare naked cucumber and his no worries at all it's all fun oh it's all fun i don't know if it's fun your adjectives it's all something thank you victoria thanks bye guys bye all right guys that was so much fun thank you for
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