The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #54: LadyGang w/ Keltie Knight & Becca Tobin

Episode Date: March 14, 2017

Keltie Knight (@keltiknight) & Becca Tobin (@becca) hosts of the "LadyGang" podcast, join Lauryn & Michael for a very juicy conversation about marriage, getting your nipples waxed, spray tanning, laser hair removal, hustling in Hollywood, beauty tips, the realness of child birth and botox..... Michael, is scarred for life! To Listen to LadyGang Podcast click HERE To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide and Meal plan.  tired of combating inflammation & bloat? Want to feel lighter and sexier? Check out lauryn’s latest 7 day meal plan. In this simple & super effective plan you’ll find: + tsc grocery list with every ingredient you need for the 7 days. + what the f*ck to do when you love carbs guide. + quick and delicious recipes: breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner and dessert. You will also find 28 weeks worth of fat burning, muscle toning, 27 minute long, effective workouts you can do at home with no equipment. USE PROMO CODE: HIMANDHER at Checkout for 20% Off

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This is the Skinny Conf the skinny confidential him and her we have two-thirds of the lady gang with us today you guys you guys have asked so many times if they could come on our show so here they are we have becca tobin she's an actress and blogger and kelty knight a television host the lady gang's third member jack vanik isn't with us today but if you're wondering she's also a badass and runs her own company, jackvanek.com. Hi. Sorry, Jack couldn't be here. She has a yeast infection. He's at an eight.

She's really at that, like, really goopy, milky part where it just, like, comes out, but it looks like cottage cheese and it smells. Right now, she's sticking all different varieties of things up there to try to heal it. Like Greek yogurt. So look over Instagram. What is it? Go ask her about it. She's doing her best. So we were talking before and we were going to see how uncomfortable

I could get from a scale of 1 to 10 and really I think right now I'm at an 8. Right off the bat. What are you at, Kevin? I'm at about 11. Kevin's a little uncomfortable. He said that when he first recorded with the Lady Gang, he had to leave the room. Yeah, we were talking about pooping, which we do a lot of.

I actually don't. No, it's mostly me. Poopy pants, Becca Tobin over here. I like how you guys talk about pooping, though. You guys are so honest. I listen to your show every week. It's definitely one of the only ones I listen to every week. Thanks, Grace.

And you guys are funny as shit. Thanks. I feel like a lot of people tell you that. Today I told my agent, I was like, can you make sure that you're telling other people that I'm a comedian as well? Are you serious? Yeah, because I was like, I can't. Every time I try to go in for a TV job, they're like, oh, they're only seeing comedians.

And I was like, do I have to go do stand-up for an hour at the comedy store? Like, I'll just start calling myself a comedian. I'm funny. I think you could be a comedian. Thank you. Just tack that onto the resume. Yeah. And what we've found about the comedians that have come on our podcast, they're not funny. At all. Zero percent funny. They have to have their act, their stand-up.

And that's the only time or venue that they're actually funny in. Otherwise, they're very odd and they actually don't laugh at anything. They don't think it's... I think they have to work on their jokes and have their lines like, chicken cross the road, cuz, and that's when they're funny. But when you just are talking about stuff,

they can't ramble a funny. It makes sense, though. You know who is funny, though, that has come on your podcast and she's come on ours? She's funny as fuck. Jackie Schimmel. But I don't consider her a stand-up comedian. I don't either. Neither do I.

She's just a funny woman. She's just funny. Yeah. And on Snapchat, she is so funny how she makes fun of her husband. Oh, wait. I need to follow that. Yeah. I need to follow her.

It's worth it. You can say fuck on here. Yeah. You can say fuck whenever we want. Oh, my God. This is exciting. We can't say fuck. On the Lady Gang, we don't say fuck.

Why? Our sponsors don't like it. They're not thrilled. Well, sponsors, hopefully you don't abandon us. Hopefully ours don't listen. Yours are probably just cooler. Hopefully they don't give a fuck. We actually interviewed Mark Manson, who wrote the book The Stubbler of Not Giving a Fuck.

Oh, yeah. Ooh. So, you know. I have that on my Kindle for my vacation. What are you drinking, by the way? Is that Kool-Aid? No, no, no. It's not Kool-Aid.

It's gin and juice. It's basically like kind of an energy powder, but it's all natural with no sugar. It's pretty boring. They always say that, but... All natural? No. Just to like keep you going? It's your crack of the week. I haven't had one sip

of coffee in four weeks. Wow. So that's because I've been drinking this. Are you pregnant? I'm not. That's a good thing to do, though, when we're having a cleanse. I really am not. Yet. It is weird. I didn't bring champagne.

Are you there? Michael is really excited for me to get pregnant a little more than me. Oh. Yeah. So there's a lot of pressure. Yeah. He holds a baby and peers at me out of his peripheral all the time. Oh, my God.

We're going to go watch a baby tonight. Her sister just had a baby. Very excited. Aw. I'm good with babies. Now I feel bad about talking about how gross childbirth is to witness. It's okay. No, no, no. We're going to go watch a baby tonight. Her sister just had a baby. Very excited. I'm good with babies. Now I feel bad about talking about how gross childbirth is to witness. It's okay. No, no, no.

We're not there yet. Yeah. So you just got married. I did. And how's that going so far? It's good. It's like the same. I mean, I want to say it's more exciting, but it's kind of just the same.

We had already like bought a house together. That to me was like way scarier than walking down the aisle when you do that. You're more stressed about signing the mortgage together. Oh, yeah. What happens if it ends and what happens to the house than you were at all about the wedding. I mean, I felt like the buying of the house before the wedding was really our marriage. And he's not in Hollywood. No.

That's nice. I bet that's really nice. Thank God. Yeah. It's like a breath of fresh air, I feel like. Yes. Because you're immersed in, like, all that stuff all the time. To have your husband not be in it is probably really, really nice. It's very nice. Yeah. Yeah. And you're married, Kelty. Yeah, but I forget my wedding ring

today. That's okay. She does that a lot, actually. All the time. I have a unicorn ring holder that I put my, like, jewelry on at night, and then in the morning, I just forget. You don't sleep in it? I can't sleep in jewelry. It's too weird. Neither can I. I can. I'm like, I could sleep in diamonds covering my body. Yeah, maybe

I could sleep in that, too. My dog has, like, an ongoing period right now. Like, I don't know what it is, so, like, she's just bleeding all over the sheets, so I'm trying to keep my diamonds away from her vaginal blood. That's smart. And I had to inspect her vagina really close. Now we're going to dog vaginas now. I'm just, honestly, the only reason I told that story

is to see what rating I could get. Before we came on air, we were talking about waxing, and I was saying that I'm not a big waxer, and apparently I need to get on board. Have you had any lasering? No, I've had nothing. I shave. I know. People are shocked that I shave. You can shave if you've lasered six times.

I'm from San Diego, though. I'm not in Hollywood. I told her that I would fully, like, I've done all sorts of investments, some good, some bad. A lot of them didn't turn out. I feel like I would fully invest in the lasering, and it would be, like, a really good investment. Like, investing in your own studio or investing in her vagina getting lasered? Yeah.

Vagina lasering. I feel like that's a good... Like, on her or on everyone? No, on me. No, on her. He wants me to get everything lasered. Hey, fucking throw in everyone. Will you do ours?

I need a top-up. There's a place on Melrose who apparently, like, for $20, you can get, like, a laser session, and I kind of want to try it out. A girl I know who is, like, a little bit darker skin, I don't exactly know her ethnicity,

she went and it burned her vagina permanently. Because you can't, it works on people like us, like fake blondes, because it's like if you have naturally dark hair but you're a white girl, that's what it works best on. But if you have any sort of Latina or black or anything,

it just burns your skin. Okay, well, he just hinted he wants me to do it, so now I know I'm doing it. I guess you're doing it. Doesn't it hurt? It does hurt. It does hurt a lot, especially when they do interlabia and your butthole. But it hurts, right? Interlabia?

Interlabia. Like inside the lips. Well, thanks for coming on the show. So, like, okay, so I almost grow no hair in my bikini line at all, but I do have some labia hairs because it hurts so bad I couldn't go back. Like, you have to like go multiple times. Put in

the show notes that we're calling this show the labia show. And then they do your butthole. Your butthole is surprisingly sensitive, which is why I think it's like a special. When I wax my butthole, I feel nothing. Did you do laser? You did laser did laser yeah you didn't do butthole laser i i don't remember i don't have a ton of hair like around my butt you're learning new stuff have you ever shaved your butt and then you're like whoa didn't realize i was back there have you whoops oh yeah i'm like whoa really let

that go a minute these are the reasons i don't have intercourse in broad daylight like with natural light flooding the bedroom no no no you got it in the dark i do a dimmer i love a dimmer a dimmer is good yeah a lot of darkness but don't you remember like when you were young you could have sex like anywhere noon on a grass field if you weren't self-conscious at all yeah like when you're 17 yeah yeah none of those days and i didn't even know you're supposed to wax your nipples then well yeah like a full bush tell those days are over. Yeah, and I didn't even know you were supposed to wax your nipples then. Yeah, tell us about waxing your nipples, because I didn't know that was a thing. People wax their nipples. Okay.

It's available. Do I need to do that? I'm not the only one. It's not a special sauce. I don't know. Are your nipples hairy? I'm going to go look after them. Pull it out.

We'll decide right now. Are they hairy? Not at all. You don't have to do this. Kevin, don't look. He's never seen a boob before. It's so weird. I have a couple blonde hairs, though.

Blonde hair is fine. I mean, I used to get that, like, Jolene bleach and, like, bleach my nipple hairs. But then you end up with, like, the spray tan. It's like a bullseye. It's too much. Too much. The spray tan. The spray tan.

You just... The spray tan. You have to get strategic when you spray tan oh yeah i'm doing it tonight i'm scared yeah i do it all the time i retired it for a while because i was like i don't look good i look crazy but like for certain things it's more for like pictures not real life yes and you gotta ask for no red tone that's the biggest mistake the red tone i don't know anything about oh i go in i go i don't want any red tone no red tone. I did not know anything about this. Oh, I go in, I go, I don't want any red tone. No red tone at all. You have a good color. I just got a spray tan. What? I do light.

Yeah, you look beautiful. That's another thing. Light, no red tone. Because they put red tone in it. Really? And that's what pulls the oranges from the hair and like, I want my eyes to look white and my teeth to look white. And with the red tone, it pulls that out. Does that make sense? Yeah. It sounds like I'm going to say that tonight when they come.

Makes a lot of sense. No red tone. You got a spray tan with me a couple times. Did you like it? No, I don't think you told him to take out the red tone. I didn't. I forgot to. And your penis looked like a huge orange current. Wait, you got your penis done? You didn't leave anything on?

I just went full for it. He didn't have someone do it. We went to Mystic Tan. Hold on. So what is your man vagina situation? Because when you get the spray tan on hair, it can be, like, troublesome. Are you at a 10 yet? I think I probably just didn't pay attention to it.

Maybe that was unfortunate for you. I paid attention to it. How could you miss it? I went in and I just said, okay, I guess this is what you're supposed to do. The spray tan thing went down and up and then you came out. Maybe you were supposed to put something over it. Oh, you know what? Now that I think, I think maybe they make you wear like a little sock thing.

Yeah. They do? Or maybe that was for your feet. I'm not sure. That's for your feet. Oh, that's for your feet. Okay. Did you wear it for your feet?

I don't think I did. I think I just went full in. Good for you. It was this color. Really? Yeah. But obviously I haven't been keeping it up because now I look like a sheet of paper. Do you guys live in San Diego full time?

Yeah, we live in San Diego and we come up here like once a month and we were coming up so much so we got a one bedroom condo. We're not going to come back to that condo anymore because we were telling you earlier. Please. Oh my God, tell me. So I think we had carbon monoxide poisoning last night. Really? Yeah.

Kevin's looking at me like, what? So I woke up in the middle of the night and I saw her go to the bathroom and I felt, usually I'd sleep right through it and I felt weird. I was like, what? I had a weird feeling. Like, describe weird. Like, I just had a weird feeling in my stomach. He said he's connected to me.

Like, something was going to happen to her. I swear to God, this is weird. That's weird. I think he went on his phone. I heard a huge bang and I went into the bathroom went into the bathroom was what the fuck was that and she's completely unconscious on the ground knocked out cold and like you know when someone gets like have you seen like a boxing match when someone gets hit and they're like breathing hard and they're like knocked out it was like that and so i'd like pick her up and she came to like 20 seconds later

i was freaking out i was like did... Did you call 911? No. The whole night, the rest of the night, I was like cold sweat, hot sweat. And it wasn't sick. I wasn't sick. It lasted like 15, 20 seconds. Can you just say that you felt it too

so I'm not crazy? No, so I thought... The place we have, they just redid this pool in this condo area and they were like doing all this plumbing and all this crazy construction.

And I just thought that it was really dry in the room. And so we got this humidifier in there. What the hell is going on? The humidifier that's blowing carbon dioxide in my face, by the way, with the wet, moist humidifier. Who has a humidifier, by the way? That's out.

Well, it's there. Oh, yes. Apparently we're blowing carbon dioxide or monoxide in our mouth. So we turned the alarm on and it went crazy. So we think that's what it is. So you're asking if I had the alarm and plugged it because it was annoying me. Oh, great. Great.

Annoying how? So it started going off. Because we're not here all the time, right? It went crazy when we plugged it in. So did you get out of the apartment? Well, we had to do something in our home today. Well, of all days, she scheduled some photo shoot. A home photo shoot.

Oh, shit. For a magazine. And so we're in there and everyone's breathing the monoxide and I'm like, you guys feeling good? Like, everything all right? You guys want a water?

And so we're probably going to get sued now. Yeah, wait, but did it end up, did it stop going off, the alarm? He took the alarm out. I unplugged it again.

We're not staying down. Do you guys know people die from this? Yeah. Yeah, but we gotta get out of the house. No, so now I gotta, I gotta like take the steps to figure it out. But no, it. Do you guys know people die from this? Yeah. Yeah, but we got to get out of the house. No, so now I got to take the steps to figure it out. But no, it was scary. She was completely unconscious, knocked out. We don't know if that's it.

You did not call 911 ever. You did not go to the hospital. So I read about this. I was up super late now after this happened. I was freaked out. My adrenaline was going. And I read about it. And they said if it was a minute, you got to go to the hospital or call somebody.

But if it's just a quick bout, because I got there pretty quick. I'm not going back to that house until he gets every single test that he can possibly get. That is crazy. That's how people die. That's what I said. When they want to commit suicide, they go in their car. But if it's in your house and you have windows open, you may be. Maybe the windows being open is why you didn't die.

Yeah. We opened them, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know it was that serious. It's really serious. Everyone you keep telling is like... That's why you shouldn't use space heaters, right? Yeah.

Because they say space heaters are like the number one cause of carbon dioxide. Great, you have that all over your office. Math. Carbon monoxide poisoning. I don't know, so that's why I didn't... Taylor, if you're listening, throw your space heater away. Get rid of the space heaters. They're like the most dangerous thing in the world.

Okay, let's talk about you guys okay first we're fine i'm glad you guys are here because i definitely blocked off this hour and i would have been pissed if you canceled no you were dead no no no no no yeah i mean we're seeing like three review but we're fine good we're good um so okay walk us through how you guys met because i don't feel like I've heard that on your podcast. How did you guys get together and create this idea for the lady gang? Well, you usually tell this story. I'll tell it. Okay. Or you want to tell you what? I'll tell how I met Kelty and then Kelty can tell you how she met Jack. Cause that's interesting. More interesting. Kelty and I were both living in New York working as professional dancers, not strippers. She was a rockette and I was on Broadway and New York, working as professional dancers, not strippers.

She was a rockette and I was on Broadway. And we would like bump into each other. We had mutual friends, like nothing too exciting. We weren't super close. And then we were both out in L.A. for our, you know, respective jobs. And we would bump into each other. And like when you're from New York, since people in L.A. are so weird. Assholes. No offense. You're not from L, since people in L.A. are so weird. Assholes. No offense.

You're not from L.A. Same to you. Yeah. So we really like kind of gravitated towards each other. Because we're real. Yeah. We also like didn't have like rich parents who like produced our first movie. So like we could understand that we both hustled our asses off.

That's what I get from both of you is hustlers. She hustles harder. My hustle is so deep and becca her nickname in the lady gang is clutch because whenever my hustle has failed me and i'm just like this is not working this isn't what are we going to do this is disaster i call back and i'm like we need this this this and she's like hang on one second and she like texts someone and then it comes through like clutch that's amazing yeah yeah amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every time. When Michael asked me to describe you and, like, tell you guys what you guys are all

about, I'm like, they're hustlers. You guys are funny, but you're also hustlers. Hard workers. It's called desperation. Thank you. Well, it's also called, like, being over 30 in Hollywood. You either die, not literally, but your career either dies or you have to get, like, really crazy and a little, like, borderline psychotic

to, like, claw your way back in or to stay there. The new thing I heard today is people are looking for nostalgic talent. So not only, like, do they want all the fresh faces on TV, you know, like, oh, she's so fresh. Like, you're not fresh anymore because you've already been on a hit TV show. They want fresh or they want, want like Luke Perry from 90210 who's now coming back to TV in every week or whatever. Yeah.

It's like nostalgic talent. So we're fucked on two parts now. Yeah. Because we're not nostalgic nor are we fresh. Story of my life. That's gnarly. But you will be nostalgic in like 20 years. Thank God.

Anyway. So we were in New York. So then we run into each other here and then we just sort of were like, let's we're so sick of the Hollywood thing. And she'd be interviewing me on red carpets. And I would be like saying like the craziest, dumbest, like basic bitch things, not really being myself at all, because I just sort of felt like you have to fit like a prototype when you become a Hollywood actress.

And then I just got really bored of that very quickly and she was getting bored and we were like, let's just like create something where we can't get fired. We can't get told to like be prettier or better. Like it's ours. So it was kind of around the time, um, at my job where I had gotten a note that my eyebrow, the space between my eyebrows that went when I was standing on, like, and they were looking in the monitor, the space between my middle, like, eyebrow by my nose that goes up and the eyebrows that go sideways was too much of a triangle, like, right here. And they wanted someone to fill that in. And I was like, this is a ridiculous business. I have got to get out of here.

Like, this is insane. I'm getting an eyebrow note. Like, it was so crazy. So you really got a note about your eyebrow. Yeah. Eyebrow note. I hope you saved that and framed it no no like i know like the producers in your ear being like um can we get some makeup kill these eyebrows like and 75 people are involved like it's not

just a personal note it's a note that everyone hears like the director we need makeup makeup makeup look it's crazy it's gotta make you guys really really confident though too because it's like it's like you almost you've heard every single thing you can possibly hear about yourself. I mean, at some point you got to like have tough skin. I feel like both of you guys are like that. Well, you get tough skin and then you also get like really low self-esteem. Yeah. Like my mom always growing up, like she really fooled me because she was like a great mom and she never pointed out my flaws. And she was always like, you can do anything you want. You're so beautiful. Like she was trying to always like, you can do anything you want. You're so beautiful.

She was trying to really, everyone gets a trophy, my self-confidence. Then even as a dancer and a performer, the auditions, you never got to find out what was wrong with you. If you didn't get a job, it was just on to the next. When I started working in TV is when I really started hating myself. Because you see yourself on the TV all the time and then everyone can comment. That also coincides with social media. So it's like that Kelsey girl on the insider's face looks like a horse. And you're like, how do I not internalize that?

Like it's horrible and people are so cruel and it's just nasty. And people have gotten worse. I feel like with social media, it's the worst. It's insane. Yeah. That's why podcasting is an ideal business for us because it's like no one can see our faces right now even though we are hot. We can wear sweatpants and no one can fire us. Yeah, that's cool.

We can say whatever we want. We can say the F word. There's no person going to sue us for that. And it's more about substance than just looks. Thank you. Are you funny? Do you have something to say? Oh, anyway, so Becca and I met.

And then we were like, we need a third girl. And she's like, I have this friend, Jack Vanek. And I was like, I know Jack Vanek as like a fashion lover. She has this clothing line and she's like the ultimate like cool girl. Like she's just like, she's just cool without trying to be cool. It's super annoying. She's chill. She's super chill.

Kind of like a dude. She's like a bro. But like she doesn't try to be cool, but she's always, like, now that I've spent so much time with her, I'm like, you don't try at all. Like, she's never like, what jeans should I get? What shoes should I wear? She, like, just comes out. Like, today in our Lady Gang Facebook group, we have, like, a secret Facebook group, she

was planning her Coachella outfits, and she's like, I need a bra top that's made out of chain metal. Did you see my response? Where can I get it? What did you say? She's like, where can I find this chain mail bra top for Coachella? And I said, nowhere, because you should not wear it. I mean, some of the things are a little crazy.

But she's like, she's a totally cowgirl. No one would think that. Yeah, she's real crazy. But they, Kelty and Jack, have a mutual ex-boyfriend. And that's who was like a 90s rock star. Early 2000s emo rock star okay and she dated him first didn't sleep with him i think she's lying she's a whore um and then i dated him and slept with him and then he was so horrible that they bonded yeah he was so nasty that after it was

like we're like this like punch up like i got you so you you thought you should bring her as the third person into the lady gang and then how'd you guys get to podcast one like how does that transpire we took a lot of meetings and we just sort of felt like this was the right fit and a year later we're still here so they haven't like really messed up yeah then we haven't messed up and i've i've kind of now figured out who the culprits are that leave all the lipstick all over the mics. Oh, my God, it's me. It's her. I was wondering who it was, because I come in and I see it every day.

It's not a lady. But what day do you guys record normally? Randomly. We record from our closet, too. Oh. Yeah, we're, like, not fancy. We're, like, in the closet, like, with our chihuahuas. Sometimes we'll do Skype recordings, and it drives Kevin nuts.

Oh, those are the worst. They sound so bad. Yeah, I know. Sometimes our sound isn't 100%. How do you guys not kill each other working together? We don't. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. I'm very, very abused. No, you're not abused. You look like it. How did you guys meet? When we were 12.

Excuse me? She's been chasing me a long time. You were 12? We were 12 years old in 6th grade. But have you had sex with other people other than each other? Oh yeah. We weren't together. No, I'm not one of those. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but we met when we were 12.

Been a lot of people. For him? No, there's not a couple for me. Not a lot. You're not joking though. You went to U of A. So get real. What's U of A? Arizona? Yeah, the harbor to the desert. You haven't heard of it. So get real. What's U of A? Arizona? Yeah, the Harvard of the desert. You haven't heard of it? Wait, is that the number one party school in America?

Yeah, that's it. Wait, I have an ex-boyfriend who played baseball there. What? How old is he? 31? He's probably around. I'm 30. Oh.

You'll have to ask his name. What's his name? Not on air. Call it Chris. Maybe. We all heard you. Yeah, we all heard you. Oh, shit.

Maybe you listened. Did you go to U of A? What's the other Arizona school? ASU. Oh, you went to ASU. When you're in college at a university like that, do your friends care if you're, like, say you go and sleep with a girl, and then, like, two weeks later, you're like, oh, I actually like her friend and sleep with her.

Like, is that, do people care? I bet it's just one incestuous call. Like, do people care when it's, like roommate we'll rephrase do do people care or do like my friends care or do the women do the women care like or was it like was it just one big like fuck buddies orgy like maybe if you were dating someone and you like screwed their roommate when they were in the other room like would they let's Let's not make this something. It sounds very specific. What happened with Taylor? Just kidding.

I think it depends on the person, probably. Now we're at a 10. Cut. Cut. You think it depends on the person? Cut. No, you think it depends on the person? I mean, some girls don't care and some do, right? I think all girls care. Or maybe they all care. I don't know. I're just trying to act like cool girls. Like, they don't care.

Oh, Becca's... No, Becca doesn't care. Becca's a boy, though. Becca's never been dumped. I don't think I have either. What? Oh, look at that. See?

When she always says that, I'm like, oh, neither. I haven't dated a lot of people, though. I've only dated, like, probably, like, four people. So that's not a lot. So when did you guys get together? Sorry, I had to take my hair extension out that's fine are you at a 10 no he's not these are all over his house all the time um we got together when we were 12 we like he was like my first kiss first kind of everything where did the first kiss happen on her vagina no no no giant 12 yearyear-old bush.

Yeah, man. Yeah. It was funny because we were a little bit ahead of the times and there was a... You don't say. We would go to the movie theater.

You know, Matt, back in the day, you go to the movie theater and you make out? Yeah. There was a mother, I'm not going to name her because we all know,

but there was a mother at our school that would follow us to the movie theater and sit in the back and then report to all the other parents. She would literally

sit through the whole movie. Now I'm thinking it's pretty creepy because you're watching two 12-year-old kids make out. We weren't just making out. You were getting fingered. One or two. I hope your dad's not listening to this one. Oh God, sorry.

We will tell him not to listen. Aren't you guys married? We're married. She gets fingered. I guarantee she doesn't currently get fingered because who really gets fingered anymore? I don't have time for that. You don't have time to get fingered anymore. You gotta move along. Way too busy.

Way too busy to get fingered, I know. I gotta post an Instagram. You're so uncomfortable, it's amazing. He's wishing he'd called in sick today. He's just like looking around. I love it. I think that monoxide poisoning's kicking in. Tomorrow he's gonna wake up.

Call the ambulance. You're fine. I'm fine. No, I'm fine. I feel like I talk about way more than that. If you can stick your fingers up it, you can talk about it. That's true true i love how you're playing with your extension with her hair extension which is so short yeah how is that so

short because my hair's short mine's like mine's like mine's like a rat so we went our separate ways and then we came back after what age what age 14 and we went our separate ways at 14 and got back together at 21 22 21 oh excuse me i don't have a date in here um we got back together and then i took forever to get married because i didn't care neither did he like i liked being engaged i loved being engaged everyone leaves you alone yeah it's amazing no one asks when you have a kid and i would have stayed engaged longer but we had a deposit down we were engaged for like four and a half years and now we're married. And I like, like you said, I don't feel like a lot has changed. Yeah. Well, if you've known each other since you were fetuses, really a long time. Yeah. Yeah.

I know everything about you. Oh, it's a little scary. So we are going to talk to Kelty about how she met her husband. But first I want to tell you guys about Kopari. You know, I talk about this brand a lot on the Skinny Confidential Him and Her podcast because I am obsessed. It's all organic. It's raw. It's insane. Kopari skincare is non-GMO, paraben-free, sulfate-free, cruelty-free, just kind of amazing. I like to use Kopari underneath my makeup as a primer. You can also wash off your makeup with it. It's basically an oil, so it comes off in one swoop. And I also really like their coconut cleansing oil. You guys know I love oil because it restores your skin's balance, which is insane. And if you want to go crazy, you can also

try their coconut rose toner, which they just sent me. And I am very much about it. If you guys are looking for something super hydrating, you can try their coconut face cream. I like to use it after I get out of the shower on my face and on my neck. So put your freshest face forward with Kopari's new skincare line. Go to koparibeauty.com slash skinny to get 20% off your order. That's Kopari, K-O-P-A-R-I, beauty.com slash skinny for 20% off. Where did you meet your husband? I met him at work. He tried to date me for like a long time. That's the best though when they try to date you for a long time, there's security. He always tells everyone like when Chris, I, we're working together in some capacity and we had become Facebook friends and he was like, Hey, can I grab your number? And I thought

it was about work. And so I gave him my number and he called me and he, he was like, I was trying to ask you out. And like, we were like making small talk and then you're like, okay, I gotta go. I gotta print something. So me, right? It it's like i was working on my to-do list so how long did it take for him to like get with you um he met me three times he says i have no recollection of meeting him whatsoever he says he met me at the office and he's like i came to your floor because one of your producers is like there's a hot girl you should meet. I don't remember that. Then I was in Austin at South by Southwest. And I met him then again.

Don't remember at all. And then I was trying to hook up with this. She doesn't even really drink. No. And I was trying to meet up with this hot photographer. And someone was like, oh, are you going to, you know, this guy's birthday party? And I was like, is Hot Photo going to be there? And they were like, yeah. And I was like, cool, I'll go. And so I went to the party and it was my, is Hot Photo going to be there? And they were like, yeah.

And I was like, cool, I'll go. And so I went to the party and it was my husband's birthday party. And that's like the first time I met him. But she was there to see a hot photographer. Yeah. And how long did you guys stay engaged before you got married?

Oh, we were engaged a long time too. I think we were engaged like almost three years, two and a half years. I think that's like... I don't know why people have to rush that. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with it, but I just, I mean... I think everyone's different.

Everyone's different. I feel like you should do whatever is good for you. You gotta, I mean. But. The moving in part's the hardest part by far. For sure. To me, yeah. Like, it wasn't.

Yeah, it's the same. It's the same. Yeah. Moving in together. My, our cousin got engaged on the same day as us. And so this is a really, I don't think you know this story. So we go to Christmas dinner. And we got engaged on Christmas Eve or something like one of

those basic bitches that gets engaged on Christmas. And we go to Christmas and literally like we hadn't said anything to anyone yet. And we're sitting in the living room and like the other cousin comes in. She's like, we have news. We're engaged. And I literally like turn my ring around and was like looked at Chris and was like do not take this moment from her I would have taken that fucking moment are you

kidding me yeah I'm engaged too with this extra extra big diamond you want your own moment too you wanted I don't care about my moment I felt so guilty because Chris and I were assholes like we have this really kitsch cool life and like these people this is the biggest thing that was ever gonna to happen to them. You know what I mean?

So you gave her her moment. Yeah. We have an exciting Hollywood life with, like, you know. And what does your husband do? Is he in Hollywood? Yeah. He's a music manager. Okay. And so is that nice to come home to at the end of the night that he's not in front of the camera? No, because a lot of times pop starlets are calling my house at three o'clock in the morning. Are you serious?

It's bullshit. Whoa. I do not want my husband hanging around with some of these girls. I don't blame you, especially at 3 in the morning. He might be a closet ass man, and I don't have the ass to keep up with that. I have a flat mom ass. No matter how many squats I do. You're doing BBG.

Yeah. Everyone wanted to know about that. Really? Yeah, a lot of people asked about that. Do you do it? What do you do? I just do. How do you keep that toned and tight?

Tone it, tan it? I just, I do a lot of strength training and Pilates and yoga and eating health. I mean, it's no magic. You die from carbon monoxide once in a while. Yeah, that helps. And no pizza in podcast one. I mean, you know. Fucking pizza out there.

Kill me. A lot of people are interested in your weight loss journey. I don't know if you want to call it weight loss, but toning up. Yeah, I was skinny fat. So I was on, when I was like 22, I went through my, a lot of people have this. I think when they go to college, right, you like gain some weight. And then I lost it all and I was real fit and cute. And then I had all these years of dancing and I was like, real, real, real cute. And then when I stopped dancing

and I started being on TV and like different schedules, stress, like it all just like, kind of like 20 pounds, like kind of creeped up on me. And I'm someone that I'm a pair. And so my weight was like in my stomach and in my butt and in my thighs. But like you could never see it because I always wear tent dresses and stuff. It's like you wouldn't really be able to tell my face a little bit, I think. And then I just decided that I was going to Tahiti next week. And I was like, book the trip in August. And I was like, I'm going to get so fit. And so then I started looking at all those Instagram bitches with their like six packs and their bikini, like a fitness model.

And I was like, I'm so inspired. I also hate you. And so I started doing the BGBG and I do it like five days a week with my makeup artist. And it's been awesome. I will say this, but you do berries. I w I'm going to say this. I spent a lot of my life trying to lose weight by doing a ton of cardio, whether it be like cycling or, you know, treadmill or whatever. And I think for someone in their in their 30s if they're not already seriously doing some weight training they should add that in because i think since i started and barry's his weights right just doing cardio doesn't work yeah it's like i do third like 28 minutes of kind of intense like squatting lifting with like 10 or 20 pounds that's exactly what i do and then

and that's all i do like i don't have to do cardio i don't have to spend two hours at the gym like i was doing tracy anderson for a while which is like a two-hour class of dancing around in the fucking hot weather. And you're so hot. And I was like, I'm not losing the weight. And the minute I started doing weighting squats, my butt was like, you know. Yeah, that's exactly what I do. I do quick strength training, like 26 minutes, like so quick. And then who has time for like an hour of cardio?

If I can, I'll do intervals for 20 minutes, but I don't have time to like. Yeah. Plus I feel like, I feel like running makes your face sag and I feel like it makes your face sag. Yeah. And I just don't like, I don't know why anyone would want to do that when you can do other things. And the other thing I'll say is my makeup artist, Rebecca, she's quite curvy and like

she had two kids. And so people were like, I mean, you were fine before. Like everyone has their own personal, like what's fine and what's not. Like we have very different body types. It's worked for her in a different way that it's worked for me. The most important thing if anyone wants to know what was like really the clutch for that program, A, having a workout buddy. I know you and Zach go to Barry's a lot together.

It's like having someone that's like, get up. We're going today. Don't let me down. And then secondly, the progress photos. Yeah. I took a photo and then every week I take a new photo and it's really motivating. get up, we're going today, don't let me down. And then secondly, the progress photos. Yeah, the progress photos are good. I took a photo and then every week I take a new photo and it's really motivating. And how long have you been working out like this?

34 weeks. Wow. Yeah. That's dedication, especially because you've sat on the lady game. I don't know if this is still true that you wake up at like four or five in the morning. Yeah, I get up pretty early. She says it every day. Yeah, it's very annoying.

I don't know if you know this, but I guess. She's a real martyr. How do you wake up at five in the morning. Yeah, I get up pretty early. She says it every day. Yeah, it's very annoying. I don't know if you know this, but I guess. She's a real martyr. How do you wake up at five in the morning? TV. You just do. I mean, I believe you guys

would start early, right? Yeah, you just get on like another. What time do you go to bed? It depends. I think that's why I'm so tired. If I don't have a night,

like a shoot at night, I try to be in bed by 9.15. Wow. That's intense. That's discipline. Yeah, it's discipline. If I put makeup on at 5 in the morning, it's like putting makeup on a pig.

I know. But I don't have to put on my own makeup. That's the other thing. That's the difference. You go in. Like, I go in, yeah, sure, really early. But for the first hour, I just sit there and someone, like, blow dries my hair and applies, like, makeup to my face.

And do you sit on your phone? Are you sitting on your computer? We just listen to music and chat and, like, visit. I'm close with my team. That's amazing to have hair and makeup in the morning, I feel like. Have you ever tried an ice roller? That's the first thing I would do if I had to wake up at 5 in the morning. Oh, just, like, for the anti-inflammatory?

It works so good in the morning if you roll it on your face before makeup. It's, like, $12 on Amazon. I should get that. That's a great idea. I'm obsessed with it. I cannot wake up without rolling it over my eyes. I mean, I look like this in the morning if I, like, don't use it. So do I. that that's a great idea obsessed with it i cannot wake up without rolling it over my eyes i mean i look i look like this in the morning if i like don't use it so do i like i look horrendous if

i don't use an ice roller i also have to use like i have to use i have to do a lot of things i have to do the ipads like i gotta use like before i put makeup on i mean for someone like me like i just feel like it just doesn't look good in the morning. There was like, the other day on Thursday, I went to work and my makeup artist was like, whoa, you have two black eyes. Like, sometimes they'll be so purple, but there's nothing makeup can't fix in good lighting. That's true. That's the truth about all the Hollywood girls. Oh, yeah.

Girls are ugly in Hollywood. They're not as cute as you think. Oh, yeah. It's the lighting, guys. What? Yeah. Wait, someone told me that Gwen Stefani walks around with lighting. Like a lighting team.

That's not true. Mariah Carey does. I don't know about Gwen Stefani. Gwen Stefani loves a lot of light but she doesn't walk around with a team. But she also has a lot of wrinkles. Gwen Stefani is wrinkly. What?

Allegedly. I feel strongly that I can report that as an SQA journalist. Gwen Stefani is wrinkly. What? Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly Gwen Stefani. I mean, I feel strongly that I can report that as an SQA journalist. She looked great the other night on The Voice. She's stunning, but like girls gotta crow's feet. Like she's not. Good for her. When they blast her out with Photoshop, it looks like she has like perfect porcelain skin. I can't even believe how some of these girls look.

They look perfect. Yeah. It's all lighting. Okay. So before the girls give us a Hollywood beauty tip, I'm going to talk to you guys about Zola. So while I was planning my wedding, I had no time. As you guys know, if you read the Skinny Confidential, I needed something quick and efficient for our registry, which is why we used Zola.

And Michael even liked it. Well, it's great that you call it our registry because you have locked me out and not given me the password. Yeah, it's really efficient. If you want to do that for your husband or your fiance, you can just lock them out and steal the password. Basically, Zola is the wedding registry that will do anything for love. Couples can register for the brands they want on an easy to use platform with the ability to personalize everything. I love it. I love a good personalization moment. It's a one-stop register, you guys. So you guys can go on with your husband or your fiance and you can just register for whatever you want. You can find sheets. You got a wine subscription on

there. We did a honeymoon fund and we also did a charity. We picked the colon cancer charity and a dog charity. So people could choose to donate to those two charities instead of giving us a gift, which I thought was kind of a different way to do gifts. Well, they make it really awesome because you can pretty much customize anything. Yeah. You can have the funds or the gifts go to whatever cause, purpose, gift that you want. I also love how they do group gifting. So basically multiple guests can contribute to one, gift that you want. I also love how they do group gifting. So basically, multiple guests can contribute to one bigger gift that you want.

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Not one. Not one. Whether it's a clip-in or an extension or, like, whatever. Like, nobody has their own hair. Even if their hair is up to their shoulders, like, underneath, too. Even if it's a short haircut, they still have pieces in there to, like, make it full and beautiful. And a lot of wigs. Like, a lot of wigs? White girls wearing wigs? Yeah, a lot of wigs it full and beautiful. And a lot of wigs. Like a lot of white girls wearing wigs?

Yeah, a lot of wigs. Oh my God, a lot of wigs. The Kardashians are almost exclusively just wearing wigs at this point. All of them. Is Kim's long, straight hair a wig? That's a wig. I want a wig. Yeah.

Back in my younger years, I didn't know what it was at the time when you'd reach your hand up a girl's head and then you'd pull out like a whole bunch of stuff. I feel like that happened to you every night at U of A though. I mean, I just didn't know what I was dealing with back then. It's a little, that was like, girls were starting early then. Like, but that was also the bad extensions, like the big tracks of like. Yeah. You know, you like, you reach up and then you just, you like, you're like hand stuck.

And you're like, what? There's glue in your head. It's pretty sexy. Besides hair. Like, do you think there, I like, what? There's glue in your head. It's pretty sexy. Besides hair. Like, do you think there, I mean, obviously we all know plastic surgery fillers. Oh yeah, all that shit. But like, is there anything that they do that like these girls that are listening can, can do at home?

Is there anything easy or is it all expensive, complex stuff? I do think that eyebrow tinting can be very powerful change to the face. First of all, finding somebody who is good at brows, but also tints them. Because, like, when you have lighter hair, your eyebrows really, they look like they might be, like, you know, thinner or, like, kind of, like, scarce. But then when you go in and you dye all those hairs dark, you're like, oh, my have, I have this huge, amazing brow that I never knew that I had. Like I I'll go in and tint my eyebrows like every couple of weeks. Cause it's, it's like gives me a new face. I a hundred percent agree. That is definitely probably one of my biggest beauty tips. I asked for a double tint. I'm so addicted. Yeah, I know me too. Cause it also

wears off pretty quickly. So annoying. I'll go back. She's like, you're back again. Yeah. I did it to you. I made Michael get a facial and I went in on his facial while he was getting it and getting a massage. I was like, can you throw a tint on me? She's in there. I'm like, you know, I'm trying to relax. You know, it kind of hurts sometimes.

For five days after his facial too, he's like, how good does my skin look? It does look amazing. I looked like an old saddlebag before this facial. Wow. You really come up. I love that you're a believer. I was not doing too hot, for sure. Okay, so double brow tint.

A spray tan. A spray tan is good. Yes and no with the spray tan. We've covered that. I think my two things are preventative Botox. I think there's this nastiness that people

are like, I don't want to get Botox until I'm old or whatever. Like, I started getting Botox when I was like 25, 26.

And like, the earlier you start, we just had Kate Somerville on one of, and so if you haven't listened to our Lady Gang podcast, listen to the Kate

Somerville episode if you only listen to one because she's like the skin guru who basically made Becca look like the prettiest bride of all time and like she was talking about preventative things that you should start

doing in your like mid-twenties I'm obsessed with a men's razor on my face shaving your face is amazing 100% I try to tell people that and they look at me like I'm crazy no I love to shave my face see when I steal your razor to shave my face don't give me shit.

No. You could get your own, though. Yeah. No, I get worried when you use your... You got a little mad when I was... I get worried when I catch you using my razor to shave other things. Your vagina? And then I have to shave my face, or I shave my face and then I look what she's been using it for.

I don't have anything else. What can I do? Which she doesn't tell me. I'm resourceful. I don't have time. I understand. She's got no time. The other thing that's really good that people can do in a lot of smaller towns and stuff

haven't now is the photo facial. Have you done one? The IPL? Yeah. It didn't work. You didn't have it? If you're someone like me who's Polish mixed of some sort and you are someone that gets freckles or age spots, I think you're a little more fair than me.

It looks like you have freckles, but you actually just look dirty. You can go get an IPL photo facial. like those like it looks like you have freckles but you actually just look dirty you can um go get an ipl photo facial i actually photo facial my entire body before my wedding and it brings them to the surface and then they come off and you have like baby porcelain skin again it's really magical and they're not expensive they're like 250 i need that i have a sun mustache really bad yeah that's from waxing your mustache i know and i used to wax it when I was younger. Yeah. And it's still here. I know. It won't go away.

It'll really come out when you're pregnant. Oh, I can't wait. Wow. I can't wait to have that. Wonderful. Can't wait for it to come out. I was like, so I'm going to see your butthole stretch to an incredible size and you'll have a mustache. Are you sure?

Are you sure you still have baby fever? That's what you should do to him when he talks about you getting pregnant i must send him a youtube video of like the hemorrhoid grapes coming out of your ass while you push your baby my sister like called me after our first couple podcasts she's like he's out of 10 well this will put you over the edge i'm gonna have a meltdown She calls me and she's like, really? After like our third podcast, we were talking about me being in the room and coming into the hospital room after the fact, like after the baby, they're cleaning him up. I thought I was like safe. And they go to like change her like diaper because that's another thing. Women put on diapers after the baby.

You have to wear them for weeks. And I am at the wrong place in the room where I see like straight up her hoo-ha and then there's like a bundle of grapes coming out of her ass like what do you mean looks like a bundle of grapes Kevin's traumatized wait what do you mean about hemorrhoids it's like these angry marbles coming out of your butthole I have to to Google this. Yeah. Like a marble? Marbles. Like it's clear? Like a whole purple. Do you know what's funny, too?

I'm going to put this on your screen, Sabine. Not only am I at a 10 and above, but I just figured out that there are some men that listen to this show. They come here for some marketing and business things, and they're probably sitting there right now. Shit. They need to know what they're getting into with the marbles.

Oh, my God. I'm sorry, guys. Yeah, we feel really bad. But here's the thing. Don't you feel better, guys, that someone's told you now so you can be a good supportive husband? It's true. Because you want to be like, ah!

Like, now you know what's coming. Get ready for your breaks. I had to walk into the hallway and slid down the hall in the hospital because I fainted from seeing it. You seriously fainted? I fainted. Like, full, like, knocked out. Fainted.

Like, I am stupid. I cannot handle, like, blood. Neither can I. Guts, whatever. And I, like, go out in the hallway, and I, like, lean against the wall, and my dad's like, are you okay? And I'm like, don't go in there. And I, like, slide down like a horror movie.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I feel like you would do that if you saw marbles on me. I don't know what I would do. Also, girls poop. 50% of women who give birth poop right there on the table. What happens if you have a cesarean? C-section?

Yeah. We could always do what Michael's dad did when he was born. What did he do? Waited in the waiting room? He went and got a suite at the hotel across the street and waited for the doctor to say, like, yo, he's here. And he drank whiskey. But my mom wanted him to do it.

No, she was like, go out. I feel like I get that. I understand that. She wanted him out and then he did that and he had a couple drinks and then they said I was here and he shot over and said hey. That's kind of amazing. I mean, but if you think about it, like they've been married now for 30 something years

so maybe. You're not going to get it out of that that easy. Maybe that's the trick. I want you to see the whole marble. Maybe I just got to go across the street to the bar and just wait for it to be finished. You need a marble moment. You know, they called us up to go they called us up to go see her sister's birth. Well, no, we were not in a room. But they jumped the gun and we were there for like forever.

Yeah. 25 hours waiting. Yeah. That's what you're going to have to do with me. So get prepared. Get ready. That was irritating. You're going to sleep in the hospital.

It's a long time. Okay, so you guys were talking about Botox. So I have a story. And I'd love to hear both of your opinions. I can't believe that this happened before I was going to interview you. I'm excited. Okay, so the other day I was talking on the phone to a brand about a partnership where basically I would put a couple links on the Skinny Confidential.

It's a media property. A media property. Like a big women's platform. A woman's media property. Woman's. I was talking to them on international women's day too good for you ps thank you so we're just it's just like a link share it's like not a big deal like they put a couple links on their site i put a couple links

on mine like you scratch your back i scratch mine or other way around anyway so i was talking to them the guy was kind of like making me feel like they were way bigger than me, which they are. And I was like down here, like, you know, we're up here. You're down here type of thing. So I get off the phone. Tell him I'm going to send a proposal over. So two seconds later, the phone rings back and I pick up. And for five minutes straight, I hear them bashing me. Like the worst things you can say about a person like this.

Ew. She is so disgusting. What a stupid bitch. She's full of Botox. She is so nasty. She talks about plastic surgery. She is not coming on our platform. That is so funny that she's going to send over the proposal. What a waste of time for her. But like, it was like for five minutes straight and it wasn't like, oh, she's stupid. It was like, ew. I can't believe we were talking to her. I didn't know that was her. And keep in mind, he was in the room with

two women. Well, keep this in mind too. They strung this conversation along for three months. They would have just come and said, hey, it's not a fit. They approached me. I wasn't like, ah. If they would have said it's not a fit, okay, cool, bye. Don't you want to say who it is? I mean, I would like blow their shit up. You can kind of, if you read the blog post I just wrote, read between the lines.

That's so shitty. Her readers have kind of figured out who it is and they're kind of blasting the brand right now. Good. You know, here's the thing that's my problem. It's like, what you see is what you get. And so when I have a conversation with someone and they tell me, send the proposal over, that's what I'm going to go do. I don't understand why it's necessary to hang up the phone and talk about someone so disgustingly for five minutes straight. So I like, I told them, I was like, I'm on the phone, you guys,

I'm on the phone, you guys, I'm on the phone, you guys. And they couldn't hear me. So I heard for like five minutes, I'm saying all these nasty things. So I get off the phone, you guys. I'm on the phone, you guys. And they couldn't hear me. So I heard for like five minutes them saying all these nasty things. So I get off the phone and I send an email and I said, you know, I just wanted to let you know that I just called you back to let you know that I was on the phone for the full five minutes that you were bashing me. And I won't bother sending the proposal over because you said how disgusting I am and how you don't want to work with the Skinny Confidential. And they hate the podcast, apparently.

They hate the podcast. Broke my heart. Broke my heart. I love how you make it about you.'s about me they have horrible taste just really rude so anyway the guy wrote back like the gnarliest apology because he was so awful and the girl wrote back a half-hearted apology the point is is like i just i feel like in this town especially um and new york a little bit it's it's so many people you encounter like that oh yeah what do you like what do you do i'm like i'm from san diego and that's not the way a lot of people that i'm friends with operate that is

like los angeles in a nutshell um this actually happened to an actress friend of mine who was supposed to do a movie with this really famous director. And she got the script and they were talking about it. And then she wasn't comfortable with something happening in the movie. And so she had a phone call with this director to, like, discuss it. And he was so accommodating and, like, so nice. And then he drunk dialed her later and left a voicemail not knowing he was like out with his friends and it was a conversation about her and the same kind of like situation like who

does she think she is she's terrible like horrible horrible things she dropped out of the movie and was like fuck you but i feel like that happens so much in Hollywood because I think two things. One thing is everybody knows the best way to feel good about yourself is to like tear somebody else down who's doing well. And the other thing is like we're all so deeply insecure that it just like it's become this like habit to go there. And I became very aware of that and I started like kind of, I talked about this on our podcast that I started like slipping back into that like mean girls thing

from high school. And my husband was like, what, what is this? Like, this is like the grossest behavior and it's, but it's like, it's everywhere and it's hard to like not participate in it

and it's hard to deal with it when it's. I will say, I think there's this whole like i don't want to say dove beauty campaign because they're not paying for sponsorship but you know the whole like everyone be yourself and be authentic but there's actually when people are saying that there's only one kind of authentic they're okay with it's true and so when you're authentic about like hey girls you know why i look like this because i've been getting botox

since i was 25 and it's a spray tan and this is not my real hair. They're like, she's so gross. Like, well, that's like I actually think you're doing a disservice to women everywhere if you don't talk about that stuff. Because they're looking at you being like, your eyelashes are so long. Why don't I have eyelashes like that? They're fake, you know? It's like there's not one kind of way to be authentic. If it makes you happy, great.

We had a guest, Cheryl Burke, come on, and she said, you do you. That's my advice to everyone. That is totally. The funniest thing is I'm in the marketing field, and I went back in and checked all their backlinks, and they've talked about Botox so many times on that site. So it's just I don't like the hypocrisy of all of it. Yeah. By the way, Michael emailed them and quoted their Instagram bio, which is all about women empowerment.

Shut up. He just sent the bio. That's amazing. It's like one of the last things that's like something, it says like something about empowering women, this and that. I'm all for that. Great. But at the end it says expressive and I just, I just quoted their bio and then did the like

laughing emoji face. I said expressive for sure. It's just like, it's unbelievable. No, it's fine you know what it's gave it gave me fuel to write this blog post about this issue because i am i like i'm so candid on my blog i talk about my boob job we talked about botox jaw surgery death like everything and so to be bashed for being candid and authentic like i don't i i just don't understand like should i hide stuff i think it would have been cool if they just said listen we don't like botox and we don't like what your

brand's about cool yeah later but the fact that the thing that made me upset is they were stringing us along for months and we have other things to do they have other things to do and then they say okay get this proposal and then they're on the phone saying haha like she's gonna do all this work just on the proposal we're gonna look at it it's going to do all this work just on the proposal. We're going to look at it. It's like, it is very Hollywood though. I feel like that's a very like, I feel like that happens all the time. Oh yeah. In you guys' industry, there's a lot of like pushing other people out of the way to make yourself look better.

And I just, I'm a believer in collaborating, not competing. And I just, it just seems like that's not like the case with collaborating instead of competing. And all of a sudden this like light bulb goes off in your head and you're like, all this time I've been tearing other women down and we've been like clawing at each other to like get jobs. And it's like, it's so much easier to do that. And I think that that was like for Hollywood right now,

it's like, it's amazing, but it's also, we're the people reacting the strongest because we're the guilty, like the guiltiest of it. That makes sense. And your interview with Ryan Murphy on your show was like one of my favorites that you guys have done.

He's awesome. He's, he's incredible. And how he's bringing the show feud. How appropriate is that? Amazing. Yeah. It's, it's, I always say, you know, like it's really hard, even in what I do, Like I know with Becca and actresses, like it's very competitive, but there's legitimately like six girls in America doing my job.

Like I know there's no one, you know? And so when I go to audition, it's like the same 15 people every time. And you feel like you want to like get at each other and prove why you're better than the other person. But the truth is, is like, you're going to get the thing that you're meant to get. And, you know, and you're going to get the guy you're meant to get. And you know, and you're going to get the guy you're meant to get. And you're going to, you know, get the life you're meant to get.

If you work hard, try to be nice to people. But then there also is this double-edged sword because I know on the Lady Gang, we struggle with this. We love to shit talk a little bit too about certain things. Like it's fun. It's a weird, like, how do we be empowering and be like a gang of women that want to you know help each other not tear each other down but we also want to like read us weekly and be like that dress is fucking

ugly you know what i mean there's like a hard middle balance of like where i think we're like robin hood though because i feel like we really don't go in on someone unless they've gone in on other women that's true you know what i mean like i I do feel like we're kind of the spokespeople for the underdogs. And, like, we're not going to pretend every woman is amazing and great and, like, empowering and beautiful. If you're not, we're going to say you're not. And I think it's, like, if it's terrible that we're, like, patrolling Hollywood like this, whatever.

I mean, don't act badly. I think there's a way to be funny and have a sense of humor, and then there's just mean, mean, cruel act badly. I think there's a way to be funny and have a sense of humor and then there's just mean, mean, cruel, malicious. Warren Buffett's partner, Charlie Munger, is one of my favorite old men. And he says to get what you want, you have to deserve what you want. Oh, I like that.

I call that a mirror message. Oh, he has so many. You do? Hold on, I gotta write that down. I might be misquoting it a little bit, but it's basically to get what you want. You just opened Pandora's box. Tell me all your mirror messages. Oh, he has so...

A mirror message is... Email me. Yeah, okay. To get what you want, you have to... Deserve what you want. Deserve. Yeah, that's not for me, though. That's Charlie Munger.

Actually, he's got a lot of really good things. Michael has, like, all these quotes like that. He even has, like, stoicism on his background of his computer. Yeah, I like quotes. My dad's a big quote guy. Big quote guy. I mean, I could hug you right now. If you weren't going to be married, I'd divorce my husband and marry you. I'm going to steal that man right from underneath you.

We could email each other quotes back and forth. That sounds really sexy. I'm not the biggest mirror message person as you are. No, I need... I send these quotes to Lauren. She's like, I'm busy right now. It's like all day long. This is so deep.

I'm so inspired. So many questions all day long. All day long. He calls me from the store. I'm like, figure it out. He needs you. He needs you. Today I had to get these candles.

And so, which she thinks, okay, you think getting candles is easy, right? Get the white candles. This is like a completely, now we're going like a complete side story. It has nothing to do with anything. But the only candles that were available were the really long ones. And then Jewish prayer candles. There was only ones in white. And so I'm trying to tell him, like, I really don't know what to do here.

I thought he meant the Jesus white tall candles. So I was like, just get the Jesus white tall candle. It's 25 minutes back and forth. She's like, how hard could it be to get the candle? So I just got both of them. And they both didn't work. You didn't take a photo and send it? No, because she was getting her hair done and she was ignoring me.

So she'll ignore it, you know? Yeah, I ignore. Everything I ignore. I turn my notifications off for everything. And at this time, I still was a little delirious from the carbon monoxide. Yeah, see? He was just... He's going to blame it on that for the next 20 days. Why did you need white candles?

I just wanted white candles for our house. It was being shot. We needed candles. He has ugly, disgusting lavender purple candles all over the house. We have a buddy of ours that stays there and he bought the lavender candle. I'm not a lavender candle guy. Not that I have anything against lavender candles, but just, you know.

Okay, so tell us, before you go, we want to hear about Jack, too, because she couldn't make it. Oh, yeah. Jack's a whore. Actually, Jack was called a whore, like, her whole entire, like, beginning of her career. So she used to, she's a huge music fan. Huge. Like, emo, whatever. And she's, like, very, like, undercover emo. And she went on the Warped Tour and was, like,

like a little Penny Lane moment for her, like a groupie moment. And then she started making these rubber bracelets, and they just had, like, cool things written on them. And they started, like, flying out of the place. And I think it took a really long time for her to be taken seriously as, as like a vendor and a designer um and anytime like she wanted to get like in with the tours a lot of the other women would be like

we're not fucking letting her in she like is a groupie she like blows all the artists meanwhile she's like a virgin she was a virgin until she was like 55 so she you know so it's just it's so funny because she's just been hustling ever since. Yeah. There's no one I've ever met in my life who has a more, a keener eye for branding than Jack. And that's what's really incredible. She's created her entire clothing line that's sold in, you know, like Topshop and Zoomies. And it was sold at Nasty Gal.

Wow. All these people. And she designs everything. And when we came together for Lady Gang, I was like, well, I know I can produce a show because that's what I do every day. And like, but Jack was like, we have to use this color of pink. And like these were this is what the photo went to the photo shoot. She had made like four separate Pinterest boards with like makeup inspiration and wardrobe and like what the branding should look like. And she runs our social channels.

And so like everything is cohesive. And it's Jack. Like she's just so good at being like, this is on our brand. is not something it's our brand and it's it's really cool she's very smart yeah she's funny too her saying on her stuff is really funny and really clever and everything she does she knows people i i mean from what i see she knows people are going to comment and share it yeah because it's it's something that you want to comment and share on we um launched a subscription box this year. I saw that. Tell us about that.

And it's sold out now. So we'll send you the next one. And we made a little makeup bag in it. And so this time the makeup bag says, life's a bitch, but so am I. I love it. It's so good, right? I love it. So what's in the upcoming lady box? So the one that's about to ship is an exclusive Jack Vanek pouch that Kelty just mentioned.

This Kate Somerville product that we cannot live without. It's, look at me, ExfoliKate. You're so beautiful. Oh, I heard her talk about that. Yeah, it's insane. It's like her magic product. Yeah. We have a bandana.

Because at Coachella last year, we had these bandanas made with like the lady gang embroidered on it and girls were like where can we get one we want one so we had them made and then we got like this cheek and lip tint she has it it's like pure 100 pure it's like this all natural vegan cruelty free like yada we're so LA right now well I love it you can put on your lips too yeah and chic yeah um what else else? Oh, the earrings. Oh, yeah. And, like, a crawler. So we just sort of do things that, like, we love. Pieces.

It's kind of just, like, pieces of us and, like, our favorite things. Like, you know how Oprah used to do, like, Christmas, like, her favorite things? Yeah. I love it. But they were, like, cars and refrigerators. Ours are, like, ear crawlers and lipstick. And the box is branded. So cute. I don't know if Jack did that.

Yeah, she did. She did everything. Very, very cute. Yeah. The whole thing is super cheeky. We sold out our if Jack did that. Yeah, she did. She did everything. Very, very cute. Yeah. The whole thing is super cheeky. We sold out our first one in 40 minutes and like crashed the website. That's insane. It was insane.

And also tell us about your secret Facebook group. Are you in the Facebook group? No, should I be in it? You need to be in it. Okay. Please come in it and then we'll share your newest blog entry in the secret Facebook group. I would love it. I would love it.

I will come in the secret Facebook group. But you cannot come because the only men who are allowed in have to show themselves sucking a penis. It's going to be tough, but I'm going to have to live with that. You'll be missed. Kevin, pull it out. We're like, you have to prove that you're gay. I'm pretty sure we're going to get sued, but like, sorry. We just talk about too many personal things to have heterosexual men in there.

And so what is it like a thousand girls? There's a hundred girls. This conversation is going to hold me over for a really long time. We have like just over 8,000 girls, but we get like hundreds of requests every day. But I personally go through and look at people's profiles. Like not everyone gets approved. Like I go through your profile and I see what kind of girl you are. Like, what are you posting? What do you post about about and you have to be like like-minded and then you

get approved and um in it we post all the time which i think is the coolest part but we share everything from like how do i find this dress i'm getting married i'm having problems with my husband i'm applying for a job everyone like you know um cheer for me today um it's you know so like girls that are like i'm moving to san francisco and i don't know anything there's girls are like we live here like meet us for coffee we'll tell you all about the city like it's a super cool such a good idea some of the girls community yeah i love that idea we have australian lady gang and they just posted a picture like they all went and met up like all the australian girls in sydney like went and had like a date together like all those girls so it's really neat the way that it

works and i think it's i the the moment i knew we had created something special is when jack got a raging yeast infection and she posted it in the group and the rule of the lady gang facebook group is like whatever it's like fight club whatever happens in the facebook group stays the facebook group and if you post if you screenshot or post anything, you're kicked out. So she posted, guys, I've had this raging yeast infection for a week. What the F do I do? I've taken the drugs. I've done whatever.

And we had hundreds and hundreds of girls being like, take an apple cider vinegar bath, stick a whatever. So the secret sauce, and I tried it last week when I had a raging yeast infection is to coat a tampon in coconut oil. And then you put the tampon up. And that's what makes your yeast infection stop itching. I am really pissed that I'm not let in. He's at a 12. Don't worry. She can tell you the highlights like those.

That is a great tip. Yeah, but it's that kind of stuff that you like. Where else can you talk about that stuff? Wait, that just like made the entire podcast that tip. That tip's incredible. It's really good. It stops itching right away. Okay, but the reason yeast infections normally come is because you don't have probiotic, right?

I don't know too much about them. Or you have a nasty badge. I get a million UTIs. I get so many UTIs. Like every second. Every second. And I pee after sex. Did I look at a penis?

I have a UTI. Yeah, yeah. Did I stay in my wet bathing suit for 20 minutes after the pool and not change? I have a UTI. Did I wear jeans today? Got a UTI. Did I stay in my wet bathing suit for 20 minutes after the pool and not change? I have a UTI. Did I wear jeans today? Got a UTI. No, like my initials are UTI, so I totally get the UTI. Wait, the U.

Well, thanks for listening. So the yeast infection, you take a tampon, you put coconut oil on it. And you stick it in. And you stick it up there and leave it in there for like two hours. Okay. That is a tip. I think we're going to end on that note. I think we should.

But before we go, tell everyone where they can find you. I know that you guys are big on Instagram. Like, pimp yourself out. Please follow me on Instagram. I need so many followers. I'm the lowest followed Lady Gang member at Kelty Knight. It's Becca Tobin. And definitely go to the Lady

Gang. Yeah. And the Lady Gang dot com. And you can find them on iTunes. You can listen to their podcast. When does your podcast come out? This one? Yeah. Tuesday. Every Tuesday. So after you finish listening to Skinny Confidential, come on over and listen to Lady Gang because we come out on Tuesdays too. Unless we've terrified you and then you're just really not our people. No, you guys

want to be in the secret Facebook group. I love how you honk when you laugh. All right, well, we've completely grossed out Michael. Michael's going to go take a bath. I'm going to take a cold bath. He's going to be in the fetal position in the shower. I'm going to go lock you back in the carbon dioxide apartment. You know that, what is that, what's that movie with Jared Leto where the girl really gets taken advantage and then she's just in the shower crying?

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. That's too deep. That was not the right example. I think she had been raped. Is that how you feel? Requiem for a dream. All right. Well, Kevin and Michael are traumatized.

Thank you guys for coming on. Thank you for having us. Find them at The Lady Gang, you guys. All right. Thank you guys for listening to that super juicy episode. And we will be back next Tuesday. And I will keep working on my intro. Thanks for listening to the Skinny Confidential, him and her, with Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic.

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