The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #70: The Fat Jew aka Josh Ostrovsky - Wild Stories, Lunch with Kanye West, and Paris Hilton

Episode Date: July 11, 2017

The Fat Jew (@thefatjewish) aka Josh Ostrovsky is a social media content commentator,  television personality, actor, Author, musician, fashion designer, vintner, the first male plus sized model, and entrepreneur.  On this episode we get into an assortment of topics. We dive into the crazy/wild stories and experiences The Fat Jew has had throughout his career, a lunch with Kanye West, and his relationship with Paris Hilton and Cat Marnell.  We discuss building a wine brand and the controversy surrounding internet content ownership.  We Brought Wine (White Girl Rose, Babe Rose, and Family Time is Hard Pino Grigio) can be found here Follow Lauryn  Follow Michael  This Episode is brought to you by Canna-Pet.  Canna-Pet is an organic CBD supplement made from industrial hemp that is non-psychoactive, safe, legal and produced specifically for animals/pets. Canna-Pet is a holistic alternative to pharmaceuticals. It helps with things like arthritis, anxiety, inflammation, pain, allergies, seizures, vomiting, cancer and more. For healthy animals, it’s a healthy supplement for longevity like eating your vegetables. We used Canna-Pet to help our dog Pixy recover from temporary paralysis and we continue to use it to help with her arthritis. USE PROMO CODE: PIXY at checkout for 50% all purchases

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Welcome to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her. Ah ha! Well, hello. Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody. We are back. We are back, actually, from Vegas.

We just landed from Vegas at 11 o'clock San Diego time, 11 o'clock at night, after a quick 24-hour turnaround in Vegas. Had to get over there, do a beauty convention, and as our guest today, the fat Jew, would say, we are mangled. Yeah, we're kind of mangled. I mean, it's 11 36 p.m. I'm fucking tired of shit. Michael has thrown me around the airport. He decided instead of getting an Uber that he would get a taxi cab, which was quite interesting. My God, guys, we almost missed the flight. I almost had a meltdown, but I have good reason. They just opened.

Actually, I don't know how recent it was, but they opened a Carbone in Vegas in the Aria Hotel. For those of you guys who don't know about Carbone, I'm sure if you're from New York, you do. It is Italian food that is game changing. I had to go there. I was with Weston and Lauren, and I had to show them the ropes. I had to let them know what was up. And now Lauren is a convert. Yeah, I love Carbone. I'm kind of obsessed. I love the prosciutto and melon. The melon is perfectly cut out. I'm really obsessed with it. Well, we're there. The waiter was probably looking

at me like I was a psychopath because I was just screaming orders at him. I'm really obsessed with it. Well, we're there. The waiter was probably looking at me like I was a psychopath because I was just screaming orders at him. I said, we need the melon, the prosciutto. We needed the Dover sole. We needed the veal. We needed the rigatoni pastas. I was trying to get everybody in assortment, but also I told this guy

he needed to get it all to me within 45 minutes because I needed to jump out. So literally I was shoving veal down my throat and paying the bill at the same time and jumping out of the restaurant. It was pretty annoying if you can imagine. This is a place where you're supposed to enjoy like a long leisurely meal. And I probably slammed three or four martinis in 45 minutes, a whole veal chop, a whole bowl of pasta. It was a sight to to be seen but we made the flight we did make the flight and we were there way early so we could have had more bread

so we don't want to keep you guys waiting too long we have a great guest today that we recorded earlier this week it was hilarious he's pretty funny like honestly i think he is the funniest guest i've ever heard on a podcast he just gets it it. And I want to say that, like, what I like about him is that he's 100% authentically himself, and he doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks about him. And I'm sure he would have liked Carbone tonight. He would have liked Carbone. I feel like he would have had 10 more martinis than you

and maybe extra capers. But what I like about him is he just is really himself. Yes. And I bet he could slam a good veal chop real quick with me. I feel like he could. All right, guys, with that, we are going to hit the sack and crash because as the fat Jew would say, we are mangled. But we hope you enjoy this interview. Enjoy. This is the skinny confidential him and her the fat jew aka josh ostrowski is a social media god television personality actor author musician fashion designer vinter the first male plus size model and entrepreneur is there anything you are not

oh wait i forgot about your cameo on real housewives of beverly hills most of you guys know him from instagram from his memes and social commentary he boosts an impressive 10 million followers and if you haven't been living under a rock you've also probably seen his wine company which produces white girl rosé babe rosé and family time is hard pinot grigio hi josh what is up you are one thing i'm not you said like what am i not i'm not i'm not handy because i'm jewish like i can't hang a fucking shelf that's for sure nothing that's good to know that's good to know but your brand on instagram is insane between the fat jew and your wine company i I mean, Michael and I are constantly laughing and like sending each other your memes. I mean, regardless of the memes, which I always get a

good laugh out of, I literally, I think I spent two hours last night going over all the commentary on the, on the wine brand. I was just, I was dying laughing. I was looking at your billboards and all your slogans is hilarious. My particular favorite is the gin tastes like dirt. It really does. Gin tastes horrible and it'll like break up your family. It's bad. Don't drink that. Just drink rosé. It'll make you happy. I agree. So tell us for anyone who doesn't know you a little bit about how you got into the whole Instagram scene and how you're into the wine scene now. I was like, I used to be a rapper i was in a group called team facelift we were kind of ahead of our time like um we played a show once with dmx

where i came out in a seriously where i came out in like a bulletproof vest and a thong with timberlands on and people were like no i hate absolutely not this is horrendous so we were like kind of we were kind of a little bit ahead of our time um we were into all kinds of crazy shit oh my god hold on mom enough how many times a day can this woman call me um so um i should have said that was a celeb wait hold on can we do that again tofer grace is calling me hold on hold on tofer i'll call you back. Um, so, uh, yeah, so I did like the rap thing for a while. We were like a crazy, we were actually one of the only artists who was on MySpace records, the short lived MySpace records. Shout out to Tom from MySpace. Um, after that I got into like TV stuff. I was on the E channel for a while and interviewed

like shitty celebrities. I would like, you know, I'd interview like the Real Housewives of Phoenix or just like whoever nobody wanted to talk to. And I sort of, you know, developed a reputation as like a sort of a great American idiot. You know, I did, you know, I was doing crazy shit, you know, way before kind of social media was even around. Like I was, you know, it was all that stuff before it was, you know was minute to minute shareable. So by the time Instagram came around, it was basically just a tool for me to like just be a moron. I'm like – I was just trying to make people laugh. I used to work with Vice a lot. I used to like write for Vice and I did a couple of their shows. And I was just known for having STDs and being ridiculous.

And then Instagram came and I was just kind of it just kind of happened like I was just kind of posting to make people that I know laugh and like you know kind of like Jewish girls were like threes and fours with rough hands that I want to sleep with I was trying to make them laugh and like it was really just for my people and then it kind of just started growing and you know growing and growing I mean the coolest thing about Instagram is like how much it's kind of like given me kind of range on like the ages of people who are into me because when I was doing more stuff with Vice and the rap stuff and like, you know, the more ridiculous shit. It's like hard to get to. Yeah, it was mostly like people like in there. It was mostly like, you know, people from 18 to like 29 who were like, you know, taking bong hits and like were, you know, college morons.

But like Instagram, just because it's so widely used, I now have people, you know, who bong hits and like, we're, you know, college morons. But like, Instagram, just because it's so widely used, I now have people, you know, who are like eight years old, I had like an eight year old Puerto Rican girl come to me on the street not long ago and be like, yo, you're not even that fat, yo. And I was like, damn, that's fucked up. But like, and then like an 80 year old woman will come up to me and be like, you know, like sloshing around like white wine and be like, I love your stuff so much. So Instagram is really like kind of widen the range of people that I can connect with, which is really fucking killer. Was there any kind of strategy when you were doing this where you're like, I just want to do this for fun? Like, did you, did you go into us thinking that you were going to have a platform

like this and be able to launch different brands and business through it? Or are you just, you're just having fun at the time? I mean, at the time I was pretty much just having fun. Like, obviously like I knew that like with the numbers, like, kind of, you know, a kind of soapbox to have a platform with. And, like, obviously, you know, you know, an audience with which I could, you know, one day, you know, leverage into something. But at the, you know, at the time, for most of it, like, I don't have, like, a social media team. I know, like, I know people, like, I know there are, like, influencers who influencers who hire like social media, like branding companies, you know, like who like use buzzwords and are like talking about like snackable content and like synergistic cloud iterated like social media trends. But I'm not really in any of that shit.

Like I basically just find funny stuff and I put it up and I say the things that I would normally say. I'm not like – I don't have like a team of like social media guys named like Jeff and Dave like telling me like what the best posting times are on a Tuesday. Like if I've done – if I've like put some coke in my butt and it's 4 o'clock in the morning and I see something funny, I'm going to put it up at 4 o'clock in the morning. Like I don't – I don't run it like it's a business. As it got bigger and as the audience grew, obviously there were some ways to use that audience to talk about all kinds of shit that I want to talk about. But I've never approached it like a business. It's really just funny shit for – I mean obviously now there's pressure because also like I always say like once you find out who's following you, you start to feel some pressure. Because I used to just like put shit up and be like this is funny like i'll write some ridiculous stuff about it but now that i know that like you know some of my heroes are following me like um who's like some of your biggest heroes following you know like rob lowe

i'll be pretty pumped on that too that guy's yeah like yeah like brook shields like one brook shield was like i love your stuff i was like now every time like i get a little stoned and i post something and i'm like is brook gonna think this is funny what if brook unfollows me you know so it's like you gotta like not think about the fact that like all 10 million of those people are like real people um and i don't know if stanley tucci follows me but that would be a hero stanley i don't know if you listen to this podcast but please fucking follow me oh yeah he tunes in every week right all right to the tooch the tooch is a big he's a big podcast guy um so yeah like you know now but you know i try not to think

about like you know even though i'm obsessed with brooke shields and i would like pick corn out of her poop and i love her and i'm obsessed with her like i try not to like get too caught up in like what people like and and really just do kind of what I want to do and what I think is funny. And I think that's really resonated with people. What's, like, the weirdest shit that happens to you on Instagram? Like, do girls send you naked photos? Like, I want to hear, like, the weirdness that goes on behind the scenes. Well, like, what's the weirdest request?

I get a lot. Well, nudity-wise, I get a lot of dicks, um, which is really killer. Um, and I think what mostly it's like, it's less sexual and it's more like, you know, people, people make offers to me to like do, to go and like have really weird experiences, you know, like just invite me to things that are really crazy. Like whether it's not about money, it's not about business. It's just like it's just like i'm i try to say yes to as many of them as possible i've been to i've been to two proms as people's dates i went to a like a mexican quinceanera um i had some like saudi guys invite me to come on their boat like in

um uh to come on their boat and uh they had like a live ostrich on the boat like in the south of france so like i get these like crazy fucking offers from people they're just like come to this thing and i'm like okay i think that i will um i've officiated uh i've officiated six weddings um two of them were like tasteful and gay um and i just like pretty much anything that people like ask me to do i try to say yes like just for the fucking experience i mean literally these saudi arabian dudes were like come to the come to fucking the south of france we have a yacht they flew me to the south of france i went on the yacht they were like we need they were like you know they're kind of party animals um these guys are like fucking billionaires they're like we need to show you

something they take me down below the deck of the thing i'm assuming they're going to show me like fucking grenades or like gold bullion or whatever like saudi billionaires are into and it turns out they have a room a giant room with like a hundred inch flat screen tv and just a live ostrich and he's just chilling what was it just it was just sitting there was it was it standing or was it sitting i think that makes a difference and like and no it was it was standing and looking kind of actually when i came in it was kind of sitting but then it like rose up because you know ostriches are fucking wild. You don't want to fuck with them. So they were like, do not go near him.

Do not touch him. They had an ostrich they can't even play with because it'll fuck you up and poke your eye out. The best part about it was that the ostrich's name was Bradley Cooper because they were obsessed with Bradley Cooper, the actor, which is really weird also. And I just remember thinking to myself in that moment, I was like, how did I literally literally get here and the answer is that they slid into my dms honestly is there anything like i mean these are all like just such absurd experiences is there anything that you've said no to like something that's just too far over the line um yeah there were like these like finance dudes like some real fucking high octane like hedge fund guys they were like dude they were like bro come on our um we're taking a private jet to vegas like host our private flight and i was

like i don't even know what that means um but i'm not getting stuck at 30 000 feet with like a bunch of hedge fund white guys on coke like that's a nightmare that is way too far with like no way to escape like i literally have to parachute out of the plane um in order to escape but i got i got a matching i mean i i honestly i barely said no to almost anything i've got i got matching i got a matching tattoo with a with like a 19 year old girl in portland like just because she asked me to like we got matching tattoos so like i'm pretty much down for like almost whatever the flight with the hedge fund guys was like a little too far but like there's very little fucking there's very little no in my vocabulary okay so tell me how your tattoo with paris hilton comes about though i want to hear that story uh paris is like paris is like she's like one of the greatest american treasures that

we honestly have like i'm not even we went to high school we went to high school together for a little while and then she got kicked out but like you got to remember that paris like invented the modern day influencer like kim kardashian literally was her fucking intern and like organized her closet like this this she invented the for better or for worse the modern day like culture that we have of just like fucking rampant selfies influencers getting paid to party getting paid like all the shit paris literally invented that game she was like the magellan of the internet literally she was like the magellan of modern day celebrity and modern day social media so i've always been like obsessed with her we knew each other in high school we're at some like weird uh we're at some

parties together but we never like hung and then we now we like now we hang and she is like so fucking smart um like obviously she's you know she's much smarter like she'll never admit that she's so much smarter than she you know her whole thing is like she's on some like yes killing it yes killing it like she literally says 10 words but when you really get to know her and she opens up like she's super fucking smart and like people don't really know like how much of a fucking queen she is like she has sold a billion dollars worth of fragrance in the middle east like she is so fucking popular in like jordan oh man qatar like people see her in asia and they literally weep and barf and pass out like she's not even that popular in the united states anymore so i like started

hanging out with her um and she's just unbelievably fun to hang out with. She's like obsessed with virtual reality. She's like getting stoned and like showing me crazy VR. Like it's really fucking next. So I was like, look, I want you to give me – I want you to give me – I want you to autograph my body. Just give me an – like autograph my arm and I'll get a tattoo. And then she was like – told me she draws this like raver kitten character. So I had her draw it on me and I was down. I would let Paris Hilton design every one of my tattoos.

I'm so down. Like she is a literal fucking – she's an actual queen. Speaking of crazy celebrity experiences, you've had a lot of really out of this world experiences. I was reading something. You were doing some memes in Kanye West and then you hung out with him but he seemed to be okay with it or like didn't notice. Is it true you had Wendy Williams name your daughter? There's just so many crazy experiences. Yeah.

My kid is about to be born. And a bunch of months ago when my girlfriend was like, I don't know, maybe three months pregnant, right after we told people, I was like – yeah, I let her pick the name. Some of the names were wild. She also could have chose her own name. It was like – Are you going to really name – are you going to really keep your name? Yes, yes. 100%? 100%. I let her pick the name. Some of the names were wild. She also could have chose her own name. Are you going to really keep your name? Yes, 100%. I take this shit way too far. Basically, my entire life is basically performance art.

A lot of these people are doing it for the camera. They're doing it for the snap. They're doing it for the fucking Vine, rest in peace. But I'm doing this shit for real, for real. I let her name the baby, and I'm definitely going to name the baby that. Like I don't just do it – I don't just do it for the episode. Like I'm not going to – I'm going to let Paris Hilton like draw shit all over me and I'll get it tattooed. Like it's not just for the snap.

So I also went out to lunch. I went out to – did you read about – I went out to lunch with Kanye West. Well, that's what I –. I heard something about it. But it's funny because I've seen you do some content on him before. Was he like pissed or did he care? No, no, no. He wasn't like pissed. He was just insane.

He basically was like, yo. Like he's just screaming the entire time. And then he like – at the meeting, he like tried a wasabi pee for the first time in his whole life. He had never tried a wasabi pee. And like in in his whole life he had never tried a wasabi pea and like in the middle of everyone else talking at lunch he was like yo and i watched him i watched him eat it and like kind of like recognized that he liked it first of all so weird that he never had a wasabi pea but um he started like screaming and was like i love this shit i love wasabi peas like i want to fill my house with wasabi peas and then he had this like

russian guy who was at the lunch who never talked he was a kind of a bodyguard i don't know what his deal was but right when kanye started saying he wanted to fill his house with wasabi peas the guy got up and left the lunch and didn't come back and i'm assuming that he went to go fill kanye's house with wasabi peas so that guy's insane like he is like he's another one like he's like that is not when the camera is on. Like he's at lunch in the middle of a crowded restaurant like literally screaming, being like, yo, I'm going to buy an alpaca. And people just like looking at him being like Kanye West is literally screaming in the middle of this restaurant. So he's like kind of awesome and kind of unbearable.

OK. I just finished the book How to Murder Your Life and I am in love with Kat Marnell. I like love the book, How to Murder Your Life. And I am in love with Kat Marnell. I like love the book. And she talks a lot about you in her book. All nice. Are you still friends with her? What's your relationship with her like now? I am. Yeah, we are still friends. She, um, she's another one. She's a fucking, she's a great American. Salute to Kat Marnell. She, um, she's another one like me. You know, she, she wouldn't just write about it. She really does this shit. Like she's like, she's so over the top and so ridiculously smart like that's like she's another she's a paris type honestly like as as dumb as she is and as much dumb shit as she

does like she knows exactly what she's doing and like she's fucking brilliant she's a great writer um yeah we like we don't hang as much as we used to but like we've had some really really like wild times we actually live together we live together in san francisco in like this giant house like this beautiful house that somebody rented like 13 of us live there and just like it was absolute fucking insanity she has seen me do like some of the craziest craziest shit like she's you know she's watched me like smoke a joint oh wait was it her oh no it wasn't her pubes i smoked i smoked a joint of her friend's pubes well you know there's like there's a common theme here right where like kat marnell like you said

she's very smart paris hilton smart like you don't build brands and content and and you as well you don't you don't build the type of businesses and the content that you guys have all built without having some intelligence i want to make sure that the content that you guys have all built without having some intelligence. I want to make sure that people understand that it's great to be yourself and put yourself out there. But you've got to have some kind of wits about you or else you're just another dumb son of a bitch on the road. Yeah. I mean I think time will separate a lot of people who actually kind of know what they're doing with all this with people who kind of have no vision whatsoever. Because I think the influencer wave is kind of crashing.

Like there's no – there's not like this entire economy of like a Filipino thought with a bubble butt like holding up like a fit tea or like some kind of like weird nut snack. Like for money, it can't go on forever. So there are some people out there who want to like build real things and do real shit which is why i started the rosé because i wasn't just gonna like hot product for somebody else like i wanted to i you know i wanted to do my own marketing and my own shit like i'm not mad at anyone who's just like grabbing at checks because they have a lot of followers and like want to promote a product but like i wanted to build something bigger and like those those two those two women in in particular they know exactly what the fuck they're doing so you know i'm not mad at like some hoes or like some dude with dick lines

and a six-pack like getting paid to like hold up some product but that shit can't go on forever but some there are some people like using social media to build like actual real killer shit so how do you start to build this rose company obviously you content marketed uh you know i think you've you've had your instagram account for like a couple years how does how does this wine come about i mean like once i you know i had a lot of followers and again i was like i'm not trying to like i'm not trying to like you know hold up a pepsi and like hot product for pepsi fuck that so i was just like what do like what do you know like who am i connecting with like on my social media like who do i love who loves me and like what do, like, what do, you know, like, who am I connecting with, like, on my social media? Like, who do I love?

Who loves me? And, like, what do they want? And, like, I fucking love rosé. It's delicious. And then, you know, a couple years ago, right around the time when I was thinking about doing this, there was a rosé shortage in the Hamptons. And it was, like, it was in the Post. Like, the New York Post was, like, fear-mongering, being like, rosé shortage in the Hamptons. Like, white women are running through the streets like hoarding bottles in the underground silos um like people fearing for their

lives and you know i didn't want my children to grow up in a world where there's not enough fucking rose god you know yeah because god forbid because you know not and not all heroes wear capes you know so i was like let me you know not my watch. So combination of the fact that it's fucking delicious and that rosé is like, it's not like wine. Rosé is different. It's like, you know, wine is like there's like notes and tech flavors and all this like nerdy shit. Rosé is like if it's cold and it tastes good and it's delicious, like you can pour it, you know, drink it or pour it in the fucking hot tub. It doesn't really matter. It's not like it's not so fucking highfalutin.

So I just wanted to make something that people would drink to turn the fuck up, have a good time. Also, everybody loves rosé. Like a 22-year-old girl named Allie loves rosé and like a 67-year-old man loves rosé. So like everyone can fucking party on it. So I was like let's just like – you know, I didn't know shit about wine. We literally like took a little money, bought some some fucking wine like tasted a million different wines found the perfect one and like bought a bunch of wine and then just started selling it like honestly it was completely ridiculous like i don't know shit about wine but it doesn't matter because you know like

it's just about it tastes good and it's just about having a good time and like don't be a dick about it and tell me about like the leathery finish and like the notes of like apricot and honeysuckle. Like it's fucking rosé. It's a good time. So how involved are you now in the day-to-day of that operation? Are you on the brand side? Are you on the logistics side? Like how heavily involved do you have to be with that business?

I'm on pretty much all sides. I do like – it's like four of us. I do like – I pretty much do like all the marketing with these guys. Like every billboard you see, every Instagram post, like the packaging, like absolutely fucking everything. And then we, I mean, you know, we're like, we're the bad boys of wine because there were no bad boys of wine, obviously. It was the easiest title ever to get. So we, I pretty much am like a part of everything. Like, especially now, now that the thing is like, I mean, we're nationally fucking, it's a huge thing now. So,

you know, a lot of his like planning events, we're literally, we have a part, where are you guys located? We're in, we go back and forth between San Diego and Los Angeles. Oh,

you're in LA right now. Or you're in one of those two. Yeah. Um, cause we're having up the fucking most Mondo, like tomorrow we were having the most Mondo party. Cause like, what are wine parties?

They're like wine and cheese and like fucking, you know, like turtleneck. I don't know. We're deruvres so we're throwing every year we throw like an absolutely psycho fucking blowout last year was that like this huge fucking mansion in the hamptons um and this year it's actually tomorrow it's called the pink party and it's on a boat it's like 700 maniacs um diplo is djing and like we have fucking Rosé Slip and Slide, Rosé Hot Tubs, a puppy petting area for anyone who's on Molly who wants to pet a puppy. We have live tattoo artists, so people get tattoos that just say Rosé or our brand name or whatever the fuck they want,

or Rob Lowe's face if you're me. And so I plan a lot of that stuff. And so I'm involved in a whole, I'm involved in almost every like aspect of it okay so um we're gonna get on a plane to the hamptons right now is that where the party is because oh no the party leaves from from it's in the city we like we take off on the boat tomorrow we're out for like three hours and it's just like complete fucking mayhem like is someone gonna die probably like like i'm glad this is on record because like most likely somebody will because these things get really crazy and like you walk on the boat and somebody hands you a bottle

with a long straw in it and you just now you're just drinking an entire bottle of wine immediately to start so like people are mangled definitely they're gonna people are gonna get utis it's gonna be they're gonna be a lot of questionable decisions i always get a uti after too much rose in a wet bikini. I mean, UTIs are miserable. I mean, I don't know because I don't get them, but I have to hear about it. Oh yeah, they're miserable. You know a lot about it. Okay, so you're- I also think a lot of people are probably going to get yeasties because like, right, you're in a bathing suit and then you like go home and you pass out drunk and then you're like hungover. Now you've been in a wet bathing

suit for like 17 hours and like you might get a yeasty.'ll be a medley it'll be a medley um so so obviously you're killing it you're crushing it but we want to hear about some of your mistakes like is there anything along the way that's been a hurdle um uh i don't know not necessarily i mean you know like the internet the internet is fucking confusing. I mean, everything that I do in real life, I mean, I do so much real life shit that I think some people like really only know me for the internet stuff, but I do so much real life shit. Like I throw like a huge music festival every year called IRL, which is sponsored by Four Loko and like every, like I have huge fucking DJs.

I have like Dylan Francis, R.L. Grime, like crazy DJs and everything is free. You come to like a fucking 5 5 000 person rave in an airport hangar and like everything's free from the booze to the fucking to the tickets you know again another uti all free and like i try to do as much you know and i think that all the real life stuff i've done has probably been um complete um and utter hot fire lava i think the internet sometimes can be confusing in that like you know memes are memes are weird and, you know, you never know who the fuck you're really dealing with. You know, like there was this whole like fucking fracas about fucking memes, you know, like two years ago.

And it was like I kind of got caught in the middle of it. It was like, you know, you just got a lot of different people. You know, it's like, you know, you're like memes are like everyone looking at my Instagram is different. There's a 16-year-old Korean blogger looking at my Instagram who doesn't give a shit about memes or intellectual property or like who owns what. Then you've got like a 40-year-old writer and he feels totally different than a 16-year-old Korean blogger does. So a lot of conflicting viewpoints and I kind of got thrust into the middle of that. I wouldn't necessarily consider it a mistake but it was kind of unfortunate, although I did get chased by TMZ in my Uber and they ran after me through a supermarket and that was fire. I felt like Matt Damon for like 10 seconds.

So maybe it was all worth it. I mean there's a lot of people that wanted us to ask you about that. My stance on it is that I look at memes from a multitude of accounts and you see these memes pop up. Like if you post something or somebody else posts, you see them pop up on multiple accounts so like i always thought that it kind of got blown out of proportion but you know it's how do you know where any of this stuff originates on the internet it's almost impossible in my opinion when it comes a lot of a lot of times it's impossible and you know what i think that the the internet as much as like look i'm a child of the internet like i literally love the internet more than i love my actual biological family like

fuck you mom and dad like internet for life. And like I was down for there to be a debate about this shit so that it could be figured out. But honestly, everybody like fucking freaked out about it and like called for my head over it. And then nobody does it. Like no one's crediting anything. Nobody is doing shit.

So like we all had this debate at my expense and everybody's like screaming and yelling and like all these all these nerds are like freaking out and so i basically went on record and was like yeah i'll credit it because i always would have if i knew where to fucking if i knew where the shit came from and i tried to set a standard and then and nobody fucking does it look go on the internet right now nobody's crediting memes nobody gave a shit so like you know i don't know at this point it So like, you know, I don't know. At this point, it's like, if you still care about that, you're probably kind of a nerd. But like, I also feel you. And like, I tried to do my part.

I credit the photos whenever I can. I'm the only person who's ever gone on record and said, I will go ahead and do this. No one else ever did that. Well, in my opinion, like, you know, I laugh at memes a lot. I find a lot of my day being wasted on that stuff, which is sad. But what I think is the funnier part are the comments that people say like i your comments are spot on i think like you could have a good meme but it's the the social commentary that you add to that meme which really makes it like

it that's what separates the greats from the from the regulars you know what i mean yeah i mean i think a lot of it was about the fact that like most of these meme accounts like they're like they're hide behind some kind of like character or like some kind of persona, you know? The original memes was like – remember like E-Bombs World back in the day? Of course. I loved E-Bombs World. There was some fucked up shit on there. I love early internet shit.

Look, it's like – I just look at the internet as like this big giant sharing community. Anyone who ever hits me up and is like, credit my shit. If I didn't know where it's from, I credit your shit. Not only do I credit their shit i'll talk to them in fact the girl who i went to the quinceanera with was like a 16 year old who was like yo my this was my friend's my friend's picture or something i gave credit to her friend and then went to when i went to a quinceanera with her like i'm hanging out with these people so you know it's like all this there's so much shit on the internet and it's like it's impossible to know but anyone who's ever asked me i've never been a dick about it i'm never like nah because i want everybody to

get their shine but i don't know everybody just like needs to be so pissed off like yeah they're always looking for reasons yeah everybody just needs to be so furious on the internet like everyone's just saying such extreme shit to me like dms besides like saudi arabian guys offering to bring me on boats and like DMs, like weird DMs from Amanda Bynes. Besides that, it's mostly just like people screaming at me one way or another. They're either like, you fucking Jew, I'll put you in an oven like a DiGiorno pizza. And I'm like, that seems like it's too much.

Oh my God. Or they're like, I love you. Like, I want to like, I want to like rip your dick off and wear it as a necklace because I'm in love with you. Like jizz on me. me and i'm like that's too much also like everyone's just so extreme like no one can ever just dm me and be like hey man i think your stuff's funny or like hey man you're not so great you know what i mean it's like everyone's like gotta be so so extreme so look white people are outraged about something on the internet every day i happen to be like three of those days.

And I was totally down with it. But like memes rule. And like if you hit me up and ask me, like I will not only give you credit, but probably go to a quinceanera with you if that's what you invite me to. That's amazing. I love it. I want to hear really quick before we go about your mom's belly button ring. Okay.

Actually, it's kind of a two-part story. One, all right. So my parents basically lived in New York my parents are both doctors they moved to Santa Fe New Mexico and I don't know if you know this but like a lot of Jews move to New Mexico now and like if you're like not old enough to move to Boca and like start eating dinner at 4 30 in the afternoon a lot of them move to Boca so they're only like in their early 60s so a lot of these Jews who are moving out there from New York they kind of like still got it you know what from New York, they kind of, like, still got it.

You know what I mean? Like, they're kind of horny. Like, they're retired. They're in their early 60s. So I had always kind of heard that about Santa Fe. And then my parents moved out there. And it is 1,000% true. My parents, all of a sudden, like, they were wearing, like, khakis.

My dad was wearing, like, khakis and, like, sensible loafers. Now they're wearing, like, denim cowboy boots that have, like, rips in them that you buy with the rips in them and like dream catcher earrings and like bolo ties. And they're definitely fucking swinging and they're super horny. And my – a girlfriend of mine went out to New Mexico with me and went to a spa with my mom. Like my parents are completely reinventing themselves. It's insane. So they're like jews from the up like from manhattan like on again like literally we're very sensible and normal and now

they're just like letting fucking loose they're like smoking doobies so my girlfriend goes to a spa with my mom and i guess it's like there's a nude option so she doesn't get nude my girlfriend but she gets in a hot tub with my mom who gets nude i guess my mom goes there all the time and so she comes back to the house like they get back from the spa and my girlfriend like literally looks like she saw a fucking ghost and i'm like are you okay and she's like i need to talk to you right now so she pulls me like into a bedroom and i'm like what is going on like what happened at the spa she's like two things one your mom has a navel ring and i was like are you fucking kidding me like she's no with like a

chunky bedette like literally with a chunky emerald i'm you fucking kidding me like she's no with like a chunky bedette like literally with a chunky emerald i'm not fucking around and like so that blew my mind and then this is like definitely tmi but like actually this is max tmi but she also told me that my mom has a fully shaved vagina oh my god like honestly like here's the thing i like here's the thing i feel kind of mixed on it because like on the one hand like you go girl like find yourself like you are 60 whatever and you are fucking like you are feeling yourself go for it on the other hand i'm like you're my mom and you're in your 60s aren't you supposed to have like a huge overgrown disgusting bush like what are you a are you a freshman at san diego state like you have a totally shaved vagina. That's crazy. And a belly

ring. Like, what are you? Like, literally, like, you're a hoe. That's a lot to take in for you. You know what I was? I was just thinking here, as you were telling her the story, Lauren just came out of nowhere with like, hey, what's up with your mom's navel? And for those people listening, they either think A, we have a really, really good research team, or B, that we're just like psychics. It's funny because when we were trying to connect in the beginning of this podcast, that's like literally the first thing you said to us was, my mom has a navel ring. But yeah, I mean, you asked me if anything was off limits.

And like, as I've now told you that my mom has a fully shaved bush, nothing is off limit. I wish I could chalk that up to our research team. If we could just like hit you with a pow out of nowhere, be like, what's up with your mom's navel? All right, so before you go, tell us what's up with your mom's navel? All right. So before you go, tell us what's next. Tell us your social handles.

Not like anyone, everyone already knows, but just give us all the deets on that. And also send us some invitations to these exclusive parties that we have not been getting invited to. Yeah. It's really too bad. You're not coming to this one tomorrow.

It's going to be like absolutely moronic. If any of our teams listening, get us a red eye flight immediately. Yeah, seriously, this man needs a UTI. Like, let's go's listening, get us a red-eye flight immediately. Yeah, seriously, this man needs a UTI. Like, let's go. Like, there's gonna be, like, there's gonna be real housewives there. There's, like, there are, honestly, the number of Z-list celebrities that are gonna be at this party is literally

shocking. Like, everywhere you look, you're gonna be like, I thought that guy died. Like, every person you see there is gonna be a celeb that you thought was dead but isn't dead. So it's gonna be,'s going to be a really good time. What do I have coming up? Nothing. We just have like a, you know, I don't know, get drunk on the rosé.

Like DM me and ask me to go to your proms or like to like, you know, officiate your weddings. I'm 100% down. I'm doing a lot of plus size modeling. So like you're going to see some of that coming out, doing some underwear ads. And just generally just being one of our – a legendary American idiot. My social security number is 101770050. You can steal my identity. I really don't give a fuck.

And I think that that is everything that's popping. And for all those hedge fund guys, you better take it easy. Yeah, seriously enough. These guys are on coke, like eating silverware, being like, yeah, let's rip. Oh, God, it's insane. Thanks for being on the podcast. You're incredible. You're so fucking funny.

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