The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #81: That's So Retrograde w/ Elizabeth Kott & Stephanie Simbari - Wellness trends, Vaccines, Diet, and Vaginal eggs!

Episode Date: September 26, 2017

On this episode we are joined by Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari from the podcast That's So Retrograde we discuss all an assortment of wellness topics including, cupping, wellness trends, vaccines, colonics, digestion, Michael's diet, fatigued adrenals, and vaginal eggs! To listen to That's So Retrograde click HERE To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide and Meal plan.  tired of combating inflammation & bloat? Want to feel lighter and sexier? Check out lauryn’s latest 7 day meal plan. In this simple & super effective plan you’ll find: + tsc grocery list with every ingredient you need for the 7 days. + what the f*ck to do when you love carbs guide. + quick and delicious recipes: breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner and dessert. You will also find 28 weeks worth of fat burning, muscle toning, 27 minute long, effective workouts you can do at home with no equipment. USE PROMO CODE: HIMANDHER at Checkout for 20% Off

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Hey guys, what's up? It's just Lauren today. No Michael. There's going to be no one that interrupts me for the whole intro. It's going to be interesting. Michael is actually in a meeting. Really quick for those of you who don't know me, I'm Lauren Everett. I'm the creator of the Skinny Confidential. It's a blog, a brand, and a podcast. My husband, who's not here, Michael, I'm talking to you if you're listening, is an entrepreneur. And he usually is with me in the beginning, but today it's just me. So before we get into it, I want to give you a tip of the week, just because normally we normally do a him and her tip of the week. But today I'm just going to give you a her tip. So my tip of the week, just because normally we normally do a him and her tip of the week, but today I'm just going to give you a her tip. So my tip of the week this week is miracle noodles. So let me tell you guys about miracle noodles. They're amazing.

They're basically zero calorie noodles. And I've been using them with either like zucchini noodles, or I'll put them in lentil pasta to add kind of like a thickness. You can also add like rauw sauce to them with like lemon and chili flake and basil and all the goodness, and there's zero calories. But here's the trick with them. They kind of smell fishy, so you have to drain them in a pasta strainer and kind of run water over them and let them sit before you cook them. I got mine off Amazon. I will leave the link in the show notes and I would definitely recommend checking them out if you want something that tastes super similar to pasta but isn't actually pasta with all the carbs and

calories. You know, we just got back from Greece, which we'll talk about in the next episode. And I was eating so much pasta. So when I came back, I was craving more pasta, which probably should have been the other way around. But unfortunately, I wanted to stuff my face with more pasta. So I had to find something that would work as a substitute. I've actually done a couple posts on them on the blog. You can Google the skinny confidential, I believe it's pesto pasta and it should show up. So check those out. Okay, so this podcast today is going to be with Michael because we recorded it last week. And I'm super excited about this because it's a funny one. You guys will like it. We are interviewing Elizabeth Ott and Stephanie Simbari, and they are the co-hosts

of That's So Retrograde. That's So Retrograde is a super hot podcast on iTunes. It's a wellness podcast by both the girls, Elizabeth and Stephanie, and they're two Los Angeles-based ladies taking it day by day, juice by juice, and one conscious haphazard convo at a time. It's definitely a show. I know Stephanie's a comedian, so she definitely adds her humor in there. You got Elizabeth Too, who was an established leader in the digital fashion space. She started working for Rachel Zoe as a founding team member for the Zoe Report, and she also is the creator of Closet Rich. So both the girls came together, did a podcast. I believe they've been podcasting for three years. We get into it. We

talked about everything from vagina eggs to cupping to acupuncture, wellness, Michael's diet. We covered it all. Very excited for this episode. I think you guys will definitely laugh. If you have kids in the car, you might want to maybe listen later. Let us know if you like it in the Skinny Confidential Him and Her podcast group or on our Instagrams. We love your feedback. And with that, I will get right into the show. I hope you guys enjoy Elizabeth and Stephanie. This is the Skinny Conf guys enjoy Elizabeth and Stephanie. This is the skinny confidential him and her. Talk about his vibe. Just talking about how I'm shallow and think someone has a good vibe, but they're not hot. So I can't like them. Am I on your guys' side yet? We're going to find a

non-sociopath or was it a sociopath? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No sociopaths. Are you sure? We have a lot. Yeah, yeah. I'm positive. I've been there. We have a whole Rolodex. I want someone just not a sociopath.

Well, you're shit out of luck then. Guys, come on. You need to get some new friends though, really. Okay, you guys. So first, give us like the backstory. You kind of already did earlier. But just for our audience, like tell us how you met. Tell us like the whole story.

Well, we're that's a retrograde. I'm Elizabeth Kott. And I'm Stephanie Simbari. Just so you guys can clarify the voice. You're talking with a very like sexual sort of chill. Thank you. I put off that energy. No, not you.

Elizabeth, she has this real... You know, I spent the morning in services. Rub your thigh. I'm just feeling a little like, you know, contemplative today. We're not a sex podcast. We're a wellness podcast. Sometimes we are, though. Oh, that's not what we're doing here?

We can talk about that, too. That's fine. And okay, so the question was, how did we get started? What's our vibe? How did you guys meet like how did you think to do a podcast three years ago okay there's there's there's that's a multi-layered yeah we met at a party through mutual friends yes stephanie is a stand-up comedian i had a career in fashion for quite a while and um the moment that we met someone said

this is stephanie she's a stand-up and i just looked at her and i was like i want to write with you but i remember her think i remember her saying you're magical and i was like oh i did yeah cute yeah yeah it was really that's what i remember but whatever um and we really became like fast friends right after that and normally if you become fast friends with someone i would say it's a red flag but in this case it wasn't it was probably like seven years six or seven years ago yeah and then we didn't start the pot we she had her company called closet rich which is an online consignment company that i worked privately with people that worked in fashion or entertainment basically people who had a constant influx of clothing coming in um we would either sell it on the website or donate it to a local niche charity. So it was like bringing like a consciousness and a recyclability to people who just like enjoyed

fashion and clothing. Can I say what about my bag? Sure. I bought a bag from Closet Rich that was Jessica Alba's bag. So we refer to it as the Jessica Alba. Do you still have it? Yeah. It's really nice. It was like the nicest purse I've ever bought yeah it was a good one it's a couple hundred dollars so um yeah so it was like that it was like a fun project on like my first venture into entrepreneurship and we because it was my company we got to like try a lot of really fun things we had uh uh like a capsule collection in uh fred siegel the richest fuck sweatshirts i never saw those um that was just like a coachella in Fred Siegel, the richest fuck sweatshirts. I love that. If you ever saw those, that was just like a Coachella thing

to promote the closetrich.com. And then I don't know why I'm promoting it now because it's defunct at this point. So Stephanie and I got together with two other of our girlfriends who are writers and comedians. We used to get stoned on her patio and think of ideas.

That was basically the genesis of everything. Everything. We were like, genesis of everything. Everything. We were like, we should do something. I don't know what it is. And then we're like, we should do comedy sketches where we wear your clothes and just like make stupid jokes. So we did like five sketches. That turned out beautifully.

That was the most. They're just like dick and abortion jokes, but in like vintage Armani. Yeah, like very stylish abortion jokes. And they were awesome and it was so fun and I think that in that moment we kind of realized like if we could work together as a real thing then that's what we wanted to do because it was

just like the most fun ever. So how does the podcast come up? Well that happened later. It was after the next abortion joke. Yeah, so we exhausted all the abortion jokes. And then I was styling a TV show for a production company that was on the E-network and knew that they were starting a podcast division within the company and kind of by way went in, slid in with the idea idea brought stuff in and the rest is history

i just want to know how you guys had the foresight to start a podcast three years ago well people were podcast i mean i'm coming from comedy and so a lot of people were a lot of comedians doing that um before i mean everyone was doing podcasts no one was listening to them but everyone was doing that that's what i think it was for me i didn't start listening to podcasts until like a year and a half ago. Yeah. So maybe that's why I think we're hitting like the real now. We're like in a boom where it's like a money making venture.

But back then it was like there was random networks like in the basement of comedy clubs. It was just like whatever. It was kind of in our. Yeah. Like NPR was into it. Like, yeah,

it's kind of starting to be where like blogging was in like 2012 yeah people are starting to catch on and everyone's trying to come in yeah yeah you gotta have a big personality I feel like well that's not a problem so you guys start a podcast yeah it was purely based out of our own interest and curiosity there was no foresight into like oh the wellness industry that's gonna be the next big thing that people are gonna be like spending money on and interested in like it was purely just like we're curious about these things we're not finding the information delivered in a way that we thought was palatable or cool so we started the conversation I mean we've both always been into the stuff like I used to teach yoga on the stage of the comedy store. Like I was like, you know, and I was like the person in that world

who was like, oh, go to Steph if you want to know about like crystals and woo-woo shit. You know, everyone just used to make fun of me. And now everyone like actually does take it seriously. Exactly. Like, oh, the podcast. So you know some stuff. I'm like, yeah, I'm not just like some weird person

who likes crystals and drinks juice. I'm sorry. Did it start as wellness? For me or for the podcast? No. It was more of like an exploration in like curiosity of like astrology was like the touchstone. And then we were like, we're not astrologers. We started recording and we're like, we don't know anything about astrology.

I was going to say, that's like really high level. Yeah, we were like reading from Mystic Mama and we're like, we should just have Mystic Mama do a podcast. Like, why would we do this? So then it evolved to be seekers instead of experts. Exactly. Just like being the beginner and like being curious. Tell us about some of the guests that you guys have because you guys have had some really

cool guests. Like who are like the standout heroes Shaman Derek. Oh, yeah, I would say we just rereleased that episode was a few Episodes kind of just got like lost in the shuffle when we decided to self-produce. We had to transfer our channel This is an actual shaman. He's an actual shaman. He's fabulous. He's like actually fabulous I was just with a buddy on a boat and he was telling me about this uh yes but this does he have a boat this one uh in particular i don't let me i'll tell you the story and then you can decide so he was he was telling me he like he

broke up with his ex-girlfriend and she ended up like running off with some like super rich dude and was something like and he was watching all this melting down and so he decides to go to peru and do an ayahuasca trip uh-huh and so he said he like walked in the tent and like started bawling crying because he's like what the fuck she's with some guy over here and i'm in a tent with all these shamans that are blowing stuff and then he did this whole ayahuasca trip with this shaman and was just like he said he could see like childhood memories completely clearly he was losing it and so what i was i want to learn more about these shamans is this this same type of so he doesn't really believe in ayahuasca that's not really a sober shaman he's a sober shaman did you ask him about ayahuasca yeah

of course because that's all i knew of shamans was like people go to peru and meet a shaman and they guide them on a medicine journey like that's all all that I knew about it. But he's, he comes from a long line of shamans in Africa. And, um, he had, he wasn't a shaman for the first like 20 something years of his life. He was, I think he was a model.

He was a model. Does he have Instagram? So beautiful. Yeah. At Shaman Dirk. Shaman Dirk. He's so beautiful. Why don't you date him?

We'll link him in the show notes. Moving on. Um, he's, uh, he's my shaman i can't do my job um no and uh he had a near-death experience well he died he taught he he had like kidney failure and died and when he was dead he like saw his ancestors and they were like you can either come with us or you can stay here and like do the work that you're meant to do on Earth. So he stayed. This is from his story. This is all in the episode.

Yeah. Which was wild. And that's when he realized that he was meant to follow in his lineage and be a shaman. And now that's what he does. My favorite thing about that recording was my parents were in town from Michigan sitting in on the recording. And then halfway through, he's telling this whole story about he died

and came back. And I was like, my parents parents are gonna think i've officially gone like full woo woo la and i'm never coming back she's rogue yeah i just because like picturing them just like innerly just being like so concerned and afterwards my dad got up hugged the shaman had like near tears in his eyes and was like so inspired and i I was like, we're doing the right thing here. That is so cool. My parents are like on the cynical side, baby boomer cynical side.

They're Michigan Jews. Like they don't believe in shamans. But now they get what you guys are doing. How could they not get what you guys are doing? No, they're the most supportive. So is this your main job, the podcast? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, we both do other things. Like Elizabeth is, how would you describe what your job is? I just kind of work in like creative projects, whether it's like one-off styling. Like I have a big career or a big resume of like creative direction, creation, that type of thing. So we work in styling, visioning, developing, working on a project now that it's not ready to talk about yet, but it's going to be dope and can't wait to talk about it.

And you do comedic. I do comedy and acting. Yeah. Okay. But like we definitely treat the podcast like it's our day like it's our day it's very much um i feel very aligned with my purpose in doing the show yeah in like bringing these conversations of mindfulness and the human experience to a broad audience i love that i think that's so cool there's so many of our listeners out there that want to start podcasts now in 2017 do you guys

think that that they should just go for it? Do you think it's oversaturated? Like what's your feeling on the industry? I think that if you have, anytime you have a dream to do something, you have to do it. Yeah. Or a better question maybe is,

why would you tell them to not do one? I think it's important to have a specific value offering and like be really clear on like what it is that you're doing and why, maybe why it's different than, than what else is out there and like know your why. Great advice. Yeah. That's a great advice. Okay. I want to talk about wellness.

Okay. Sure. So you guys talk about a lot of unconventional wellness tips. What's something that you. Yeah. Yeah. wellness tips what's something that you yeah yeah what's something that you guys can talk about that's maybe like a little bit taboo like maybe people aren't ready for it whether it's like a colonic marijuana like give us some stuff like we're pro cannabis on our show because the concept

for our show is birthed from a smoking a joint wait you guys are you guys are pro cannabis and you gave me a lighter yeah with your logo on it yeah well we're supporting candles all habits and like saging incense cute you know whichever whichever's in your life okay so tell me like more about all these wellness trends because you guys do talk a lot about wellness yeah we cover the trends but a big thing for us is like to we're not we're not trying to like instagram wellness promise that a smoothie is going to change your life i think that in what we've since we've started and where like the industry has kind of moved to moved to in like such a short period of time like this stuff's obviously always been a conversation. Like we've talked to some guests who've been in this world for, you know, 30 years and no one was really talking about it.

It was like the weird people who had to drive 30 miles to like the one Mrs. Greens to buy their like barley milk or whatever. Like it's always been here, but it hasn't been at the forefront in the past. Like I think like five years it's become a billion dollar industry. So the thing that we're really careful of, though, is to not say, oh, like this trend is going to be the thing. And definitely don't eat gluten. Like definitely never eat cheese again. Like, oh, yeah, you know, definitely drink kombucha every day or whatever. Like it's very it's easy to to to jump on a trend that you think is going to make you all better.

But like you're already 100 percent fine. Yeah, I like that. What like I have i go back and forth so if i consider myself somewhat healthy but also like i'll go to mcdonald's once in a while yeah we're gonna get to that here's my thing though what i love marriage what is what is something what is something that you really like okay you really should be doing this and stuff that's like okay like you maybe don't have to give us something that's like you should really be hydrating and breathing yeah, and those two things are free.

Yeah. And the most important. Okay. That's. Can you do that? Because you haven't been hydrating that much and you could use oil on your forehead. I don't know if I can. I might not.

I might stop breathing at any moment. Because my problem is there's so, like you said, there's so many trends. Yeah. There's so many people jumping on things that for me, I'm like, I'm just, I kind of stopped paying attention because there's so many things back and forth. No, I love everything. I'm like I'm just I kind of stopped paying attention because there's so many things our whole thing is to to explore these different modalities provide the information so that people can break build their own toolkit anything very curious I like to do on my blog like

here's the information but like when you leave you do you yeah you know I mean like I'm just showing you I'm not telling you what to do I'm just showing you what I like and what I don't like and like some things we try and we're into it for a little while and then we're like okay that's not really like serving us anymore so I'm not gonna do that anymore like what's something that you keep going back to though like for me I love cupping I saw you guys like that too love cupping love acupuncture gives me so much relief and I always say people are like well you guys like that too. Love cupping, love acupuncture. That's something that gives me so much relief. And I always say people are like, well, why do you like to walk around with those bruises?

I'm like, for me, those bruises represent relief. So I want people, I actually wear a backless tank whenever I get it done, to be honest. I like when people come up to me and ask me because I feel that it's like cool to be able to say to someone, you should try this if you have back pain or anxiety because it's so helpful. But you know what's funny about that is that acupuncture and cupping is thousands of

years old it's not a trend you're right you're right nothing like showing up to a party with your wife fully bruised you like it too you show your bruises off he walks around butt naked i'm like listen it's not me it's her i'm you know she started it i just had to give her the left hook if you guys could bruise each other in perfect circles, I'd be highly impressed. Yeah, that's cool. You should keep doing that. We support abuse if it's symmetrical. Red meat, no red meat.

Well, I subscribe to the blood type diet a lot of times. A lot of times. A lot of times. I mean, I did recently go on like a no meat thing because I just kind of wanted to clean my system out. Did it make a difference I felt just I was eating it too much because I was doing blood type like so heavily that I was having red meat like five times a week because I'm type O and you're supposed to have red meat and greens basically it's like the whole diet I mean there's a hundreds of other things you can eat

but those are the most accessible and I just wanted to like clean out and feel lighter so I did and it taught me that i could eat it a lot less but i really don't like cutting anything out of my diet a hundred percent but you still will like try different things of course yeah like yeah i just did a 30-day vegan and i felt great but like you know then i went to new york city and i was like live my best life i know know. That's the problem. That's exactly how I feel. I could get on board with all this. Cool. I didn't know if you were – because I didn't know what was going to come.

If you could come in and say like, hey, no red meat, cut this out. I'd be like, all right, whatever. You don't believe in rigidity. I don't think that's fun. It's just like, how do you feel? That's how I do – that's how I think we both do everything. It's like if something is – I was like, I think I'm eating too much meat. I feel like dense.

It does make you heavier and denser if you eat it a lot so I was like I just feel like thicker in my body like it fucks with your digestion there's no way to like really describe it other than that and then I stopped and I was like okay I feel better and then I didn't eat it for like a month and I was like I think I need a hamburger like it's just listening to yourself totally is the most important thing that you can do for your well-being yeah and I think that that's one of the one of the maybe potential pitfalls with like this quote unquote like Instagram wellness thing. It's like if you have to be like one way or it promotes a one way of being, which is

really helpful to get information, but you need to have a pretty strong filter on still like what works for you and what makes you feel good because it is not one size fits all that there's one thing we've learned is that totally I the reason that I like you guys is because you guys are super wellness based but you're in on the joke right right like like it is all a joke you know like for me to be walking around with bruises all over my back like you have to you have to like have a sense of humor about it and if you don't like you know some people are so on Instagram it's like you can't do this no and if you don't like you know some people are so on instagram it's like you can't do this no gluten like hashtag like like like you know it's like too much it's

overwhelming people like to be in control totally there was this big hepatitis a breakout in san diego uh-huh i was actually recently talking about this and so we've just we've kind of been going through it so wait do you guys have it? I beat it. No, is it from food? So I've just been researching it a while back. We went, we had, we went to Asia and we had to go to go there. You have to get some vaccines to go into China or whatever.

Yeah. And we had to get one of them. You have to get is the hepatitis. A latest favorite story vaccine. But the way they do it, I guess guess is they give you 50% of it or a little bit of it yeah and then you have to

come back six months later but Lauren didn't want to go back so we just never got the second half I'm wondering now if I'm immune or not but I'm also wondering

what you guys think of vaccines in general ooh hot button issue yeah whoa you're throwing that one out there I'm curving around

I like it I'm into it it's funny they were bringing up hepatitis because I was watching the Emmys funny you bring up hepatitis because I was watching the Emmys. Funny you bring up hepatitis. It's a hot button issue.

They're literally right now, as we speak, they're spraying the streets of San Diego down with bleach. Wait, how did it break out? Mimi, Lauren's sister, told me that there were some, that the homeless were shitting in the streets.

And that if you touch it. I saw you shitting in the street the other day. Well if you, then if you touch it, I saw you shit in the street the other day. Well, listen, so I, we got to go. I got a notification from our building manager that there was an outbreak. Um, and he, and I thought it was, I was like, okay, that's not serious. And then I came back and like people are literally dying and it's, it's not, it's not funny, but it's pretty wild.

Well, that's a, that's a cautionary tale against shitting in the street and slash touching it if you're not the person who did it. That's how you'll get hepatitis. Your hepatitis? I think it's that story. I was going back. Yeah, okay. So we were going to talk about just like the vaccines.

We got sidetracked. There was a commercial on the Emmys for hepatitis C and it really sent me down a rabbit hole of like, how does one get hepatitis? And like, what's the sliding scale? Tommy Lee. Yeah, our friends dating him. But also, I think you can get, you get hepatitis a a lot from traveling in asian countries yeah but my friend got it from eating food in india can you beat it like i mean if you get he got it and it went away well no but i don't know if you guys are immune or not that's what i'm wondering this is out of

my wheelhouse like a half kind of immune right half I gotta say I don't really feel like the two of you are at risk for hep A did his hair doll give it away not that I'm a doctor

yeah you're guys just like intuitively you seem very clean and I don't feel like you're the kind of person that's gonna pick up a homeless person's shit

off the ground we just bathed in a drinking fountain before this we just got back from a trip and bathed in a drinking fountain before this. We just got back from a trip and we were in a very confined space with 12 different people and like five of them asked me if Michael bleaches his butthole. Oh my God. Oh, do you?

No, I don't. I mean, should I start? No, I thought that was something. That's a gay thing. Yeah, I was just going to say, pardon my. It's a gay thing. He's so clean that people were wondering. Well, it's like, sorry that I'm not just a dirty piece of shit.

We appreciate that. When people think you're as clean as the gays, you're doing something right. I mean, I wash my hair once every two weeks. So I'm not, you know, I washed it today. I'm not going to wash it for another two weeks. You're welcome. So vaccines, yay or nay? It's weird because I understand the arguments on both sides.

But like we were vaccinated and we're fine. Yeah. So that's where I'm like, I don't know. I wouldn't, I don't have children. So I, I haven't really like addressed this issue yet, but I know that when I do have kids,

it's going to come up for me because God forbid, I should give my child the vaccine. And then they do end up with some sort of like, fuck up. I'll never forgive myself. So I don't know what the answer is it's kind of weird that this has become this paranoid like conspiracy theory when like all of us born in the 80s and 90s were vaccinated and most of most of us are fine vaccines have gotten rid of a lot

of really really bad diseases i mean people were like dying in the masses before exactly i will say i don't get a flu shot yeah i don't get it get it. No, I do. That was, oh, that was what I was going to ask you guys next. So I, a lot of times I feel like, you know, when people go extreme, let's just say like extreme health or one way or the other, I feel like those people get sick a lot more frequently and I'm not passing judgment. I mean, I'm just saying like, just for my own observations, the people that have always like, you know, they're so regimented in a certain way, they, they end up getting sick. And I feel like, you know, if I go and,

you know, I'm running around and catching germs, like I don't really ever get sick when I do. I'm a baby. It's interesting because I agree with that. It's like when you don't put anything in your body needs to take like dirt or toxins into it's, it's like a all the time vaccine.

Like you, your immune system only learns how to be smart by learning how to fight things. That's interesting that you say that because I just read Yolanda Foster's book, or Hadid, and how she believes a big part of her Lyme disease was cured. Lyme disease, I keep calling it Lyme. I have this. I do the same thing. Lyme disease was cured is because she actually, I don't know how she did this, but she took her ailments,

somehow injected them back into herself, if that makes any kind of sense. And it actually helped her become immune to what she was fighting. So when you have Lyme disease, I guess they inject you with other people's stuff. Interesting. And she was like, wait a minute, I'm actually going to reverse this and actually take mine out of my body and then

re-inject it that's a really interesting yeah the book is so good cool you guys will love it have you read bite me by ali hill figure we both had her on our podcast i saw you guys had her too she's a dear friend of ours um she's insane phenomenal book yeah really good book both of them you'll love yolanda's book if you liked her book we'll check it out and I appreciate how you did the last name change just to like keep it current yeah I wanted to keep it current

to honor the situation we don't want to offend anyone just in case Yolanda's listening I'd love Yolanda on the podcast I feel like manifest that. Yeah, you can do it. No, her story is like so incredible and everything she went through,

she actually, Michael doesn't know this, plug your ears. Okay, let me take the giant headphones off. She actually set up a lab in her house and took her feces and actually went through each thing of her feces, poo, and found parasites in there and saved the parasites over like a year's time. And she had like she had these rope worms and like all these different things growing inside her.

And she includes the pictures in the book. Yes. I love interesting poo. Speaking of Pepe. inside her and she includes the pictures in the book yes the homeless in san diego speaking of hepe the homeless in san diego i think did a similar thing just not in a lab just not yeah not in the lab just out on the sidewalks i'll set up a lab in our house and we can do that with you this weekend i've um i've i've sent my uh feces um yeah to a lab before and and um i'm allergic to egg whites oh okay that's all they told you yeah and i'm gluten intolerant and lactose intolerant but i still eat those things wait did you like go online and like like go to like sendmyfeces.com like well like i hope that's

a website i guarantee it's a website but it's probably not the type of website you should swipe that one up if it's not i let me get let me hold on guys i gotta get on go daddy it's a website, but it's probably not the type of website. You're an entrepreneur. You should swipe that one up if it's not. Let me get, let me, hold on guys. I gotta get on GoDaddy. It's actually a- Go do it in San Diego. Set it up. It's actually a porn website. Um, no, uh, I did it through my naturopathic doctor cause I was having, I've always had stomach problems like my whole life. And has everyone told you like probiotics, like all the different kinds of things? Um, yeah. Well, yeah. Like my thing is like a little more complicated because it has to do with

like an enzyme that I'm missing initially so um I wasn't supposed to be eating bread for a long time um but something that actually really helped me with my digestion this is so dumb is um chewing my food more oh I've actually heard that heard it here I know it's like sounds very stupid and simple but I think like we live in such like a fast culture and like we're like oh eat lunch like we don't you know when you eat rest eat lunch or dinner in America like as soon as you're done the server like shoves the check at you and it's like if you're in any other country like you could sit at that fucking table for hours no one would do anything but in America it's like eat get out and like you're standing you're eating. Yeah.

Everything's on the go. When I was a kid, if I didn't eat all my food off my plate, as soon as my dad was done, he would eat all my food too. So everything just taught me to shovel my food down my throat. And once I got a colonic, and she was like, this is really weird and gross, but there's chunks coming out of you. Can you just chew more? Wow. And I started chewing more and like my stomach problems decreased

by like 80 percent and you'll you'll be told to your brain that you're hungry or you're full quicker yeah I feel like you it almost helps with losing weight too and it's like an exercise in mindfulness uh-huh that's smart you know what when we were in France I'm like how are all these girls so like fit and thin and I sat there and watched this one girl Michael doesn't know this he was talking the whole time and I was like looking at my peripheral like over and over and she took like an hour and a half to eat her breakfast it was like so slow the way they eat so I was trying to do it it's I mean it's hard yeah we're just not that's not our programming do you remember when we were at Miraval and we were eating with the marketing director

there and we were like so hungry. We had just been traveling. It's in Arizona. And we were like eating so quickly. And she, we were, I don't remember what she said, but she's like, there's no rush. And I was like, there's no rush. And I thought I like zoomed out. Everything turned into slow motion.

I was like yeah right that's amazing i want to know but can i have another muffin i want to know more about your colonic because i've never had one that i'm thinking about we have the best lady in the world she sings beyonce to you the whole time she's amazing wait does it hurt that they like spread your butthole i will say that part doesn't hurt and she's a mirror the part where the inserting haven't you ever had like a finger in your butt? I mean, you know. Oh, come on.

Am I? No, I mean. Not in that blue chassel. You guys. Okay. Sorry I asked. That part doesn't hurt at all. But what does hurt is when the water starts going in.

I personally experience like a lot of cramping it's not comfortable to me hold on hold on we gotta go back okay is it a finger or is it no no i was just saying it's like a jet stream yeah but like i need to know how like basically it's a finger wide no it's a finger wide oh it's a finger just a little tube they spray i imagine like like this no oh my god I thought it was like a penis. No. No. Also, what penis is that big? My clothes is pretty good. I wouldn't have married him. You're like, it's this big.

No, I thought it was like, okay. Reconstructive pussy surgery. Lauren's dad's a regular listener. Your daughter has a huge vagina. It's like throwing a hot dog down a hallway. Oh my God. I'm just kidding. Elizabeth.

I actually was picturing though I'm not gonna lie that it was this big. It's like as big as the top of your water bottle. That's a little It's not but it's shaped

it's like wider at the top and then it goes into like a whatever gets smaller. And they're gonna put like there's gonna be like a coconut oil or what have you on it. She does. Yeah. It's a little weird. Slides it in. It's all good. There's going to be like a coconut oil or what have you on it.

She does, yeah. It's a little weird. Slides it in. It's all good. That's not really the part that. How long is it up your ass? How long is the session? Like 30 minutes, 45 minutes?

Yeah. But it's great. It's really fun to see everything come out of you. Does it make you feel good afterwards? You feel good after, but I'll be honest with you. During a colonic, I'm extremely miserable. I hate it. It hurts so much.

Cramping. So tell me why you do it then. Because when it's done, you're like, ugh. Do you feel like a lot thinner? Is it debloating? It's not really like a thin, I think if you did like 10 of them, that might be the case. It's more just like, sometimes if I push on like my lower abdomen, there's like a hardness because that's like when I'm not digesting properly.

And that's when the colonic is really good because it what she does is called hydro colon therapy. So it's it's hydrating your colon. Like that's a big reason why people have shitting problems. There's probably a better way of saying that. But it's because their colon is dehydrated. So it's like it can't work if it's like dried. Okay. Since we're like on the top,

we're learning a lot. I have these crackers that I call the shitty crackers. Okay. There's okay. So there are these crackers called GG crackers. Michael, plug your ears. Um,

I just talked about them on my blog and basically they have four grams of fiber per cracker and they taste like cardboard. But here's the thing. They have two carbs per cracker and it's a big cracker. So you get two carbs plus four grams of fiber and you eat them with like avocado or salmon, whatever. Plug yours. Oh, it makes everything move.

Oh, I love that. That's great. I have never experienced. It's like 400 pounds of chia seeds. Is that when you're like running to the bathroom and crashing I love that. That's great. I have never experienced. It's like 400 pounds of chia seeds. Is that when you're like running to the bathroom and crashing through the door? That's amazing. That's amazing. Honestly, if you have digestive issues.

So all the girls in France are eating these crackers. I'm like, what are these? They eat them with everything. I'll show you a picture. And I had to like special order them off Amazon. I got like stacks of them. But they are. Really?

What are they made out of? Amazing. Oh, my God. They're made out of two ingredients honestly these crackers you guys they also have raisin and it's same like two carbs per cracker what's the this was an ad I think it's like I want to say

Mimi will you look it up but these crackers are like insane if I want to say, Mimi, will you look it up? Mimi, look it up. But these crackers are like insane. If I want to really get it moving, I put psyllium husk in my smoothies in the morning. Oh, that's a good tip. That's a good tip. And that just makes it go. Yeah. Michael, you're learning stuff.

Yeah. I'm one of those people that if you tell me and show me what to do, I'll do it. Or at least I'll try it. Yeah. Right. But I just, I don't know what it is. I just haven't really taken the time to really research it. Maybe something like take some time.

Can you guys give me some tips on how to manipulate my husband and eating healthier? But at the same time, like I'm pretty healthy. I think I don't, I give you a C. Maybe not with my diet so much, but I like try to consistently exercise. What's your diet?

What's the problem? Tell us your diet. My diet. Okay. I've talked about this a little before, but I would say that i'm not so attached to food no attachment what does that mean meaning like i think you eat it for fuel i eat it for fuel okay so so i was i was trying to analyze why he's so thin all the time and i'm like

what is happening obviously he's a guy but like there's something else he has absolutely no attachment to food there's he had never heard him say, I'm craving this. Like he literally eats just as fuel. My mom's the same way. But I'll eat everything, right? Like there's not, there's not something that I will look like,

Ooh, I won't eat that. I'll try and eat everything. And I appreciate really good food. If we go to New York, I'll eat like a glutton, right? But I just,

as soon as I'm full, I just stop eating or, and I don't really crave anything, but I also, I don't, I've never overdone anything, right? Like I don't just slam red meat or I don't just slam eating or and I don't really crave anything but I also I don't I've never overdone anything right like I don't just slam red meat or I don't just slam vegetables or desserts or whatever so I I feel like I'm healthy in the regard that there's the same way she's 105 pounds

I'm healthy in the regard that I don't overdo anything does that make sense yeah in terms of food okay so what's the problem no that's I that's I'm saying I don't feel like there's a problem which is why I've never really and why do you feel like there's a problem okay so let's dissect his diet suddenly i'm a relationship therapist yeah no let's say he wakes up okay and he doesn't eat until probably 10 nothing okay that's fine do you drink water workout or after that's good yeah my whole thing i had a trainer that said you have to start eating before you work out. Interesting. Right? Conflicting information. Yeah, there's so much conflicting.

Conflicting. And then I've had others that say don't. But I've always, I've worked out consistently my whole life. Frag about it. No, but I've never wanted, I never liked eating before. We get it, you're skinny. No, no, you just can't. It's what, here, this goes back to the original thing that I was saying before, which is like,

whatever works for you. You don't seem to have a problem. You're not like dealing with an issue where you're like i wish i had more energy i wish i could feel better i wish i felt stronger why do my elbows hurt or whatever like you're not saying any of that stuff so like you're fine i do have one problem what is it now that i think about it tell us and maybe you guys know about this when i drink caffeine i'm fine but when i drink coffee now i get this like weird if you ever you know, like when you your ear You know, I feel like you got to pop your ear. Yeah. Oh, yeah, and then like my my pulse right here

We'll get my adrenal. Yeah. Yes Yeah, what the hell is that? He's been complaining. You're just having adrenal fatigue Like stage one like gnarly level though. Oh, wow Adrenal have you talked to your acupuncturist about this? No. That's what you should do. But every time I drink coffee, I love coffee. Only coffee though. Like we drink this,

this is, this is caffeine, right? He doesn't do it. It's only coffee. What is that by the way? It's spark. I'm going to show it.

You guys aren't going to sponsor. No, no, no. It's kind of like, it's kind of like Adderall, but without the comedown, but it's not,

that's, it's not obviously, look atall but without the comedown but it's not that's it's not obviously look at my drug addict hand i fully for selfish reasons need to understand more about this adrenal yeah okay we're not doctors we're not but um but you seem to know what you should if i was having that i would immediately tell my acupuncturist and and probably and lay off the coffee for a little bit for a little bit i stopped a while and it went away yeah so you can like i stopped drinking coffee for a number of months came back at it to it it was great i probably need to lay low on it a little bit longer but your body just needs some time to reset i will get you off coffee herbs that you can get i'll tell your acupuncturist

that will um balance your adrenals. Does the adrenal thing happen also with stress? Yeah. That's what it's related to. It's your fight or flight responder, right? It's fully related to stress. Interesting. I thought you guys were going to look at him like you had no idea what he was talking about.

Oh, no. Oh, you should hear the sound he makes. So we're like on the airplane. I feel like I'm going to go out. No, you go. Oh, no. You should definitely go to an acupuncturist that's where i that's like my guys i gotta i gotta go to the er okay so my first like

line of defense for any like body problem is acupuncture i'm like okay at least they because what they can do they might not have a solution they usually can have a solution but they can tell you like what you're going through and what it's connected to because in with your body you know it's like a systems of energy and acupuncture is like the meridians are energy points and everything is connected so if like you have a pain that's like persistent in like the back of your calf for example like that could mean that you have like liver deficiency or like heat in a like a different part of your body like an organ so that's that's why I like it because it's not just like,

Oh, take a Tylenol or like rub your calf. It's like, no, that's coming from something else. And then once you address like your body as a whole picture, then the problems go away. Wow.

Who told you to go to the acupuncturist? Let me guess. I have no clue. It was your wife. Who do you guys go to in LA in case anyone's there? Carolyn Barron at Botanarchy. She's amazing. Okay. We go to Taylor Taylor in San Diego. If you guys want to in la in case anyone's carolyn baron at botanarchy she's amazing okay we go to taylor taylor in san diego if you guys want to go to him usually i wouldn't do that

because i you can't really trust a man with two first names but taylor taylor's good taylor taylor is amazing he used to be he was in the military and he was an actual like western medicine physician he was a doctor wow and then he had so many problems with pain um he and he was injured that they started putting on so many pain pills that he's like i can't do this anymore and then he studied eastern medicine and came back as an acupuncturist those are the people that are the best doctors yeah he's super like he's super calming too yeah the first-hand experience he cups the shit out of you too taylor taylor the cups are deep i love that he's not single but it's okay i cannot date a guy with two first names.

I have rules. We have boundaries here. Yeah, we do. All right. So is there any other wellness trends that the audience needs to know about? Like, is there anything that's like kind of off the cuff? Yes. Listen to that. So retrograde, y'all.

Yeah. Well, they're all going to go listen. Everyone's going to love it. I guess a yoni egg's pretty weird. What's that? Oh, that's the vagina egg. Tell us about that. We did a really great episode on it because, unfortunately, we love goop.

But with goop, there is an article that came out that was, like, unfortunately misinformed. And so it gave the yoni egg kind of a bad rap because I believe the claim was that it could help balance hormones. And it just can't that's just not a thing well wait wait but back up no what is the jade egg that you insert in your vagina I've actually never used it I'll be right back or you should listen to this no no no no no it's it's like the size of anything in your penis it's like a little bit smaller than an actual egg and shaped like a quail egg you guys should check out um at we are tulip that's on instagram it's we are the tulip we are the tulip let me write that down they are um two sisters who are like leading the way in

the benefits of the yoni egg and like went and found like a jade manufacturer that has like the perfect um cleanest cleanliness of of the crystal don't you feel like what if it's like i know this is not scientifically possible but what if it gets i feel it's gonna get lost it can't your uterus ends yeah so you just leave it in there and walk around yeah one time i put it in and then the because you can like put dental floss through the hole so you can like pull it out. And one time I pulled it and the floss came out and then it was just like floating in me. And I was, I started having like a fucking full on panic attack cause I was like, I don't

know how to like give birth to an egg. That's basically what you have to do. You have to use your pelvic muscles to like birth, like give birth. That's what it is. That's amazing. It's strengthening the pelvic floor. But as we talked about in the episode, like essentially the experience with the vagina is like consistently traumatic.

That's true. There's never anything that's like pleasant that's happening. It's not like a chill, lovely thing. Exactly. So to have the choice of like inserting something in there that's like kind of a hug for the vagina, let's say. Is that what it's supposed to be, a hug for the vagina? Yeah, and it's supposed to strengthen the muscles. Especially it's good for women who have had children okay um so it's is it kind of like kegels i just like it i just throw it up there

and do my laundry does it feel good i don't you don't feel it at all so like it's you just like the fact that you have an egg in your vagina i just feel like it's paying off okay like i don't know how workout yeah i think it strengthens the pelvic floor it's paying off. Okay. Like I don't know how. It's kind of like a workout. Yeah. It strengthens the pelvic floor. It's supposed to. It like strengthens your connection to that part of your body. Exactly. Since I've been using it like when I have sex I can like I'm like oh I can feel it more now.

Oh that makes sense. Yeah. You learn how to contract. Yeah. But when I got it stuck up there I squatted over my toilet and I was like crying and sweating and I was like please. And then there was that time you lost it for six months oh yeah then did you forget that you put it up there I was able to birth it which I was really impressed with because it was like a whole new muscular experience like it's very interesting to have to push something out of you but then I

had it I took it with me this was really weird I had it in my makeup case because I was going to do my makeup in my friend's house and I wanted to show her the egg and I put it in my makeup thing inside of a bag that I then like put in the trunk of my car and then I took everything out of the bag but I must have like overlooked the egg and then like shoved the bag like in the back of my trunk and then for literally six months I was like I lost my yoni egg like I don't understand and then I started doing a joke that was like, I lost my yoni egg. Like, I don't understand. And then I started doing a joke that was like crystals, you know, crystals like run away from you when they've had too much. I was like, my yoni egg has just like seen too much. I think I need one.

My vagina has too much energy. You should get one. It's really cool. I almost think I would play so many tricks on Michael, though. Like he opens the eggs in the morning and it's like right there in the corner. Like there's so many things I would do with that. We like to hide things like for each other. Like I, like there's so many things I would do with that. We, we like to hide things like for each other.

Like I feel like I would just like put that in your shoe. Like hilarious. That egg would be everywhere. I love that. You should get one. Hide and seek. What a romantic game to play. Actually,

our friend called me the other day and he was like, Steph, I have to tell you a story that only, I'm not going to say names cause that would be inappropriate. What does it rhyme with? Um, I can't. Um, just say, let's call his name, his name is Garfield.

Oh, sure, sure. And so he was like, I have to tell you a story that only like you would appreciate. And I was like, okay. He's like, starts telling me how he's like with his boyfriend and they are like rubbing each other and like doing oils all over each other. And he's like, and then we like took a little Molly

and it was like really intimate. And like, then we're like rubbing each other with crystals. And he's like, and then he rubs me with the crystal and it like he puts it like in my butt crack. And then all of a sudden I felt my butt suck the crystal up. And he's like and then I had to shit the crystal. Stop. And I was like, I was like, thank you so much for thinking of me with that story. You know what we're doing

tonight, babe? Crystal butt hunt. Between the yoni egg and the crystal, you're like birthing everything. So where can everyone find you? This episode's like, wrap it up, guys.

Should we talk about something else? I love that story. That's amazing. I feel like we've covered the bases here. Is there anything else? We talk about normal stuff,

not just shitting in our pussies? Yeah. What do you guys talk about for someone that has not heard your podcast? And it's a very popular podcast. But anyone who hasn't heard it, I would say, you know, it really we cast a wide net when it comes to the like, quote unquote, wellness world. You know, everything, obviously, from like shaman and like a higher consciousness perspective on things to like the more core ideas of like acupuncture reiki vagina nutrition we really try to unpack these things that might come across people's minds and and wanting to just like get more into it and then and then just like the

human story you know we have people on that um aren't necessarily like wellness experts but have unique experiences being embodied and we have them on to talk about that and kind of shed light on the fact that like she said like there's not like a one-size-fits-all experience for people and whether you're suffering from a disease or you have like a special diet or needs or whatever like it's okay and there's a place for you and you can live and make it work for you's okay and there's a place for you and you can live and make it work for you and be healthy there's just things that you might need to tailor to your own experience you know we grew up in the 90s where it's like the food pyramid is is the way to health and that's what we learned and it's like it's fucking insane it's like so wrong and a lot

of people that we have on the show kind of are teaching us how to relearn how to take care of ourselves and that's what the show is really about i think you guys should talk about your jamie lynn signer episode i saw your last name really quick just because i really liked that one of course thank you we we loved that episode too she's a friend of ours and um you know came forward with the her ms diagnosis publicly about a year ago. Before that, she'd been struggling or living with the MS for 15 years. And she came on the show and spoke really honestly about her experience with the disease and her ups and her downs. And it was very human conversation. And it was really about accepting and persevering and being in the

spotlight with all that happening right i mean how stressful is that it's pretty fun we get to have a lot of like um like more recognizable names on the show who come on and talk about things that they might not normally talk about we've had emma robertson sophia bush lance bass i'm trying to think of like our recent fun Sarah Silverman. Um, oh, it's like picking a favorite child. That's not,

there's not one that's like a standout hero. Like where would you tell our audience to start? At the beginning? At the beginning. At the beginning

when I was super hungover and felt like I couldn't pronounce sentences. Yeah. It actually is funny when people are like, we started from the beginning and I'm like,

oh no. What the fuck are we talking about two and a half years ago like that's so scary i can't barely remember too yeah i don't want to remember what we were talking about the first episode that was horrid but they're still pretty good yeah i mean obviously you're still here so you're doing something right you gotta keep we're still here yeah okay so where can i find one question one question one question because you triggered something and i was thinking and i don't remember uh where i heard this, and I could be completely off base and wrong, but I heard you were talking about the food pyramid.

I heard there's a new, is it Harvard? One of these prestigious schools, they're saying they're taking dairy out of the food pyramid. Is that true? Thank God. I don't know if that's true. I haven't heard that. I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm lactose intolerant, so I'm quite glad. Or they're pushing for it. I think that what's interesting about dairy is like, okay, cow's milk is definitely not something that like humans have an easy time digesting. First of all, cow's milk is disgusting. It's fucking disgusting. Thank you for saying that. But I think like there's studies that show that like sheep's milk is really good for

your nervous system. And I personally find that when I eat like a sheep's milk yogurt or eat a cheese i don't have any reaction at all my stomach's totally fine um it can it can create just like an imbalance because there's still sugar and cheese and if you have like any like candida or anything your stomach will go fucking bananas for cheese i knew this kid that he would all say like you have to drink milk because your bones are gonna be strong and this guy like he's broken every bone in his body bird bones you know i'm like i'm like you're not that you can't be the source i love the expression bird yeah i mean like literally you go up and like you know you take your thumb

and like snap a like twig and it's like you just go up and like snap his arm real quick yeah i mean you can just take vitamin d if you're worried about your bones breaking yeah i mean he couldn't i was like listen man like you whatever you're doing i'm doing the exact opposite you know yeah he doesn't sound like he knew well that was super informative i learned a lot like i have like a I was like, whatever you're doing, I'm doing the exact opposite. Yeah. He doesn't sound like he knew. Well, that was super informative. I learned a lot. Like I have like a, like an Amazon list of what I need to get.

Like my eggs. Number one. Oh yeah. I'm getting that egg. You should. It's really fun. It's okay. I mean, it's whatever.

Yeah. It's interesting. And it's like, I'm down for the health of my vagina. I'm down for it too. You know, on the vagina note, where can everyone find you guys? Inside of Elizabeth. Um, yeah, my brain sickos.

Um, we're at so retrograde and at that's a retrograde.com. We're on iTunes and soundcloud and find me at Elizabeth caught K O T T. And I'm at stuff. Simbari. Thank you guys for coming on. Thanks for having us. So awesome meeting you guys.

Yeah. Wonderful. Wait, time out. Remember how we talked. It was so awesome meeting you. It was so much fun. Wait, time out. Remember how we talked in the beginning about how if we had a good time, you were going to hug me with some dudes? Oh, yeah. And what's the verdict? Well, what I'm going to do

is I'm going to cut out the clip about the vaginal egg. That's a selling point. I'm going to send it out. I'm going to put some feelers. And then we'll see what comes back. But yeah. Actually, a lot of your friends would like the fact she birthed a vaginal egg.

Exactly. Look at me. I'm like a goddamn wizard. Yeah. I think your friends would be turned on. You heard if my friends hear about vaginal eggs, they will come running. I wonder every time someone says vaginal egg,

this episode, everyone should take a shot, sip of green juice or a shot of whiskey. I like it. I like it. Or some spark. Yeah. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I like it. I like it. Or some spark. Can't wait. Awesome. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. All right. So be sure to check out That's So Retrograde on iTunes. Now, if you guys want my five beauty tips and tricks sent straight

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