The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - #87: Katherine Schwarzenegger - Author, Blogger, and Animal Activist on Animal Rescue, Inspiration, and Women Supporting Women
Episode Date: November 7, 2017On this episode Katherine Schwarzenegger (@katherineschwarzenegger) Author, Blogger, Animal Activist, and Daughter of Maria Shriver and Arnold Schwarzenegger sits down to discuss animal rescue, what i...t takes to be inspired, women supporting women, balancing social media, and trying your best to be the best at whatever you love the most. We also discuss Katherine's third book and first children's book Maverick and Me and Lauryn dives into Katherine's wellness and beauty routines. To connect with Katherine click Here To Buy Maverick and Me click HERE To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis. They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices. Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to receive $60 of FREE organic groceries from Thrive Market + free shipping and a 30 day trial!" Keep in mind that Thrive Market's  prices are already 25- 50% below retail because they cut out the middleman. And now they are offering $60 off free organic groceries! Â
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The following podcast is a Bostick Media Production.
She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
Fantastic.
And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie.
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostick are bringing you along for the ride.
Get ready for some major realness.
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her.
Aha! Skinny Confidential, him and her.
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show.
Today we will be talking to Katherine Schwarzenegger.
She's a writer, a blogger, and an animal activist.
She's also the daughter of Maria Shriver and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
We're going to be talking to her about animal rescue, what it takes to write three books at the young age of 27, passions, balancing social media, and her wellness routines.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the show, I am Lauren Everts, the creator of The
Skinny Confidential, which is a blog, a brand, a podcast, a YouTube channel.
And I'm Michael Bostic, entrepreneur, businessman.
Last 10 years I've been specializing in product development and direct-to-consumer sales,
helping build client brands and my own brands. Sometimes I feel like you do an accent when like
the show comes on. I might have a little bit of an accent. I think my dad's from the Midwest so.
I mean after the gin and vodka tasting this week with your bandana, it's not a surprise that you have an accent.
You can never dang tell.
Oh, no. You don't want him to do it.
You can never tell.
So last week was Halloween. Michael was a karate kid and a unicorn.
Well, okay. We've got to give some context.
It was our friend. We've talked about this last week, but it was our friend, Guilin Mauricio's.
Well, I was going to say it was his Halloween, but I guess it's everyone's Halloween, but, um, he likes unicorns
and the karate kid. So I did a double outfit swap. And why'd you do that? I don't know. Just
make the kid happy. I feel like you were trying to take the attention off him and my relationship.
Well, listen, there's a young kid and he's looking up, he sees a blonde girl with big cannons and
he's just, you know, he he he's he's infatuated so
i was like this guy's not paying any attention to me and it was pissing me off honestly it was
pissing me off but i was dead that night i was literally dead that was my costume your costume
was a complete miss in my opinion for the for the children's um halloween costume because you came
like fully dead makeup and it was like you know we're there to celebrate the kids and go trick
or treating i completely disagree gillian told me to be as scary as possible.
And you tried to, you were an hour late trying to make an entrance.
I wasn't trying to make an entrance.
You were like thinking you were like going to make a big entrance to five-year-olds and
like literally nobody cared.
Everyone's like, yeah, we already went trick-or-treating and we already ate all the candy.
Like, what have you been doing?
That is such a lie.
All right.
Well, if we want to give a little recap of our weekend, we went gin and vodka tasting at You and Yours Distillery in San Diego.
It was rad.
It was so rad. They actually distill their own gin and vodka there.
And she gave us the full tour. And it's very Instagrammy.
The drinks remind me of Floral Farms.
They have like a ginger carrot turmeric margarita, which I definitely had.
And from there, we went to Cafe Chloe with
our sister-in-law and brother-in-law. Cafe Chloe is our favorite restaurant in San Diego. It reminds
me of like this European tiny little quaint, charming place. Don't you think, babe? I like it.
I do like it a lot. I don't know if it's my favorite though, but I like it. What's your fave?
I don't know. I bounce back and forth. You like Cowboy Star? Cowboy Star. I like a good steak.
So another exciting thing this week is we're going down to celebrate our one year wedding
anniversary. You've been married to me for one year. How do you like it? We have made it this
far. We did not kill each other. everyone says that the first year is the hardest
year i would not agree true uh i just think you're overall annoying you know what i just made that up
nobody really says no everyone says oh they do yeah oh well then we made it no i just think that
like smooth sailing from here you've always been annoying so it's like not anything different
but i don't think it was that hard. It is hard to work with you
sometimes when you're grumpy. What have you planned for me? I've planned a couple of things.
I have some upsets, some things at my sleeve. I got a whole itinerary. Do you really? Yep. I
planned it out. It's going to be super romantic. Okay. Are you really going to turn your romance
card on? Because I don't want, I mean, I feel like every trip is work, so you got to turn the
romance card on. It's going to be super romantic. Okay. I've already sent Mimi the itinerary, told her to pack your bags. What does that mean? Well, because, you know,
she needs to pack the right things. Wait, is that why she packed all my lingerie from my
bachelorette party? Well, I didn't tell her to do that, but if she did do that, Mimi, good job.
She literally packed my crotchless underwear. Well, here we go. I don't know if we need to
tell everybody that, but all right, here we go. And she's also going to pack my crotchless underwear. Oh, here we go. I don't know if we need to tell everybody that, but all right, here we go. And she's also going to pack my crotchless underwear. Oh,
I'm just kidding. Oh, I'm going to go for a check dial. So yeah, we're going down,
going down to Cabo again. Michael's also probably going to bring this little something he's been
working on. I have, I've been developing a new product, which I'm not quite ready to share, but
we'll soon be ready to share. And it's, I'm definitely bringing it down to Mexico.
It's for the bedroom. Let's put it that way. Yep. Soon to be for everyone in everyone's bedroom.
All right, Michael, you're creeping everyone out. So yeah, we're going to Cabo for our anniversary.
We're going to be using his product that he's developing. I'll tell you more about that
soon. It's definitely something him and his partners have been working on.
So we'll be using it.
And you better have planned a lot of stuff for me because.
I have crotchless underwear.
That's enough.
I pulled out all the stops.
I did everything that I was supposed to do.
We'll see what you did.
I did.
I'll be sharing it on Instagram and Snapchat sparingly.
If this doesn't work, we might have to pull the plug when you're on the dot.
All right.
All right. Let's get into the the plug one year on the dot. All right. All right.
Let's get into the him and her tip of the week.
Do you want to go first?
Because yours is quite unique this week.
My tip is not really a tip.
It's more of a complaint to the listenership, the community, people I thought were my friends.
You guys, he's been preparing this for a while.
A lot of chatter has been going on on the
social web because Lauren tells me people reach out, they tag her and they say they love the
podcast, which is awesome. He's been talking about this for like 45 minutes. And they message her
and they tweet her and it's really great for her. Not so much for me not a lot of not a lot of chatter on the interwebs for
your old co-host over here so i guess i'm going to basically put everyone on blast and say where
the hell have you all been michael there's been crickets for you i know nobody's messaging me
my tip of the week is to message me and include me i don't need any kind of praise i just like
some interaction i I feel like,
you know, I'm just getting left out. He wants to be included on the Instagram stories. He's
feeling left out and I've had to hear about it. So can you just like, and guess what? I'll respond
faster because, well, I guess there's nobody's messaging me. So there's not a lot of messages.
Actually, I'm just kidding. I get messages, but it's usually not good things. Kind of crickets.
All right. Well then let's just use my, her tip of the week to give value.
Mine's a good one too. Was it send more messages to you? No, it actually isn't. And I hope I haven't given this tip before cause it's such a good one. And if I have, excuse me, but everyone should be
using it. And that tip is unroll. If you don't have unroll, I don't know what you're doing.
You have to get unroll.
So I was getting so many emails every single day.
It was so overwhelming.
Half of them were pointless emails.
The other half were emails that I didn't need to see every day, but I didn't want to unsubscribe
to.
You know, some of them are my friends or things that I just didn't want to completely unsubscribe
from. So I found this program. It's called Unroll. This isn't sponsored.
I just love it. And basically you can pick all the emails that you are subscribed to and put it
in one email. So let's say you want to, you know, unroll to, you know, 180 emails. All those emails will come to you compacted in one
email. So every day I get one email from an unroll. So instead of getting an extra 180 emails,
I just get one email. The rest you can unsubscribe to. So you don't have to deal with that. Does that
make sense? Yeah, I have unroll and I love it. You copied me. Yeah, I did. I did copy on that.
That's one tech tool that you gave me.
That's a good one. It is a good one. It's changed my email game. It just completely, it's almost like a maid came in and like tidied up my inbox. It's like a fairy, you know, like,
you know, the fairy that comes in our house every day and cleans the entire house and fold your
underwear. Um, is that the fairy that I keep telling not to do that, that I don't want doing
that? That's me. And basically that's what unroll does to your inbox.
So definitely try it if you get overwhelmed.
Because for like five years, I was so overwhelmed with my inbox.
I didn't know what to do.
And now I feel really good about it.
Might have to unroll from part of this relationship.
Okay.
All right.
Katherine Schwarzenegger is a total babe.
And not only is she beautiful, guys,
she also has amazing skin and she's smart. Catherine is a writer. It's her third book and
also happens to be a children's book called Maverick and Me, a blogger, animal activist,
and a true beauty inside and out. Maverick and Me is all about her rescue dog, which I feel like I
need to meet after the show. Boone was adopted, so Michael
and I are super supportive of rescuing animals. Anyway, Catherine is also the daughter of Maria
Shriver and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who we learn is an avid bike rider. Before we welcome this
badass dewy-skinned influencer to the skinny confidential him and her show, let's talk about
hemp seeds. If you guys haven't used the Thrive Market link for $60 of free groceries,
what are you actually doing with your life? I'm serious. This is such a good deal. And Michael
doesn't even know this. I actually used it myself because basically you get $60 of free organic
groceries and delivery by using the link thrivemarket.com slash skinny. So it's not a
code. It's a link. All you do is type in thrivemarket.com slash skinny. So it's not a code, it's a link. All you do is type in thrivemarket.com slash skinny. But let's actually talk about what was on the top of my list,
hemp seeds. Okay, so hemp seeds are this magical seed that I've blogged about tons of times on the
Skinny Confidential. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just Google magic seeds,
the Skinny Confidential, and you can read all about them here's why they're amazing
they're filled with healthy fat and protein so a lot of you guys didn't know this because i did
an instagram live they are filled with protein so i pack these babies in my smoothie oatmeal
fiber-filled cereal and even on top of avocado toast and in my smoothies and in my oatmeal you
need it though you love avocado toast they fill in my avocado toast. They fill you up, guys.
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So I highly recommend you guys use the $60 of free groceries link and throw in hemp seeds.
So if you're looking for other additions, I wanted to tell you my Thrive grocery list.
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Michael, you should get this too and use your own link.
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Happy shopping. All right, now let's get into the interview with
Catherine. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Okay, Catherine, introduce yourself to
the audience. Hello, I'm Catherine Schwarzenegger, and I am a writer, blogger, animal activist, young woman living in Los Angeles.
Tell us about your book.
It's for children.
It's your third book.
Yes.
So my most recent book that came out about a month ago is called Maverick and Me.
And it's my first children's book.
And it is all about teaching kids about animal rescue and dog adoption. Um,
I have a rescue dog named Maverick, hence the title. And, uh, I wanted to write this book to
teach kids all about, um, animal rescue and just the option of animal rescue. So hopefully when
they get their first pet, they choose to, uh, adopt instead of buy. Why is that so important?
I mean, we have a rescue, but I want to hear from you. Um, I mean, I am a huge animal lover and I've always been a huge animal lover. And, um, I, when I was little, didn't know that
there was such a thing as animal rescue. I feel like it's become more of a thing lately. Um, but
I just, I got my dog, um, not intentionally. I was fostering puppies before. And then I had what
you call a foster failure. Um, and I just saw the way little kids reacted to meeting my dog
and he is a brindledy like tiger hyena looking dog.
And they thought that it was so cool that he looked so different
and that he came from under the freeway and that he came with like this story
that it was really interesting for me to see how interested kids were
in the fact that you could get an animal that came with a story
and that they would tell their friends about it.
And it was just such a cool thing for me to see that made me want to write this book to
teach kids all about the idea of animal rescue and get them excited about it and hopefully telling
their friends about it and just kind of create awareness around the issue. What should someone
do if they want to rescue? Where's the first place to start? Yeah, I mean, I love supporting local
rescues. I work a lot with the ASPCA. I'm an ambassador for their program. So I love working with them too. But
I started supporting a local rescue where I would foster. And so I always tell people,
whenever they think about getting a pet, it's such a big responsibility. And I grew up with
pets, but I never knew how big of a responsibility is to have one that's like solely dependent on
you. And so I always tell people to
foster first because it gives you a little preview into whether or not you really want to make the
commitment to getting a dog or a cat or whatever animal it is. And it's such a rewarding experience
to be able to have, you know, the pets in your home and then see them find such amazing homes
that, you know, they're going to be loved forever um so fostering I always tell
people to do that first and then doing that through local rescues there are so many especially here in
LA and I'm sure you know wherever um anybody is but being being able to do that I think is such a
fun thing to do that's really really don't you find that the the rescue dogs are like more grateful
in a way I always say that but some people get very offended by that but I always think that they
they feel like they're like they look at you and they're excited all the time and also really grateful for like having been rescued and saved by you and have a lot of love to give. Not to say thatas right yeah and the first one her name's pixie
lauren got her before we were together and basically it's like the love of my life pixie
and then we got our second dog and i named him she also says we but i i believe i named the dog
we go back and forth i think i named him but we named him t boone pickens after the billionaire
yeah and i feel like one of them is so spoiled, right. And she's like kind of a
brat, but I love her. And then the other ones is like super grateful and humble. There's like
hearts out of his eyes every day. Yeah. Like he just like wakes up so happy every morning just
to be part of everything. Well, also I think that they have such a big impact on like other people
who are around you because we grew up with pets. Like we had dogs, we had, I had a pig in high
school. We grew up with like all different kinds, I kind of grew up in an environment where my parents were and still are very much like any
people can come over and any animal can come to the house, just like a very welcoming environment.
So I rescued this pig and then I also rescued ducks and rabbits and it was just kind of like
a free for all at our home. But we always loved our animals growing up. But like I see my sister in the way she is
with my rescue dog, Maverick,
and she's like insanely obsessed with him.
And I think it's because when we got him,
he was two weeks old.
He was so little and really sick
and he was supposed to,
they told us to put him down
because he was so sick when he was little.
And so I think people think of him
as like this little survivor.
So they have like such a intense attachment to him.
Like my friends do, my family members do.
So I feel like they are just like so much more lovable and appreciative of like everyone.
I wish you brought him.
I know.
He's going to come.
I know.
I should have brought him actually.
You should have brought Boone too.
They could have met.
They could have been friends.
So tell us about the process of writing a children's book because I know you've wrote
three books.
So the children's book seems like a completely different process very different yeah can you
talk about that yeah so I thought um that a children's book would be easier than my first
two books just because you think oh it's for children so it's going to be really easy it was
not um it took me about a year to do and um I think the most interesting part about it is, you know, I'm 27 now. So it's been a
while since I've, you know, had story time as a child. When I wrote the book, I had to do probably
about like 20 drafts of the story because we had to change it so much because you don't think about
using certain words or storylines that, of course, make sense to you as an adult, but don't
necessarily relate or excite a little kid who's reading it. So it was a lot of like changing words
instead of saying, oh, she laughed to say, oh, she giggled that, you know, certain things respond
better to kids at a certain age than they do to people in, you know, their 20s. So that was really interesting to do
and really different, obviously, from my first two books.
And changing the storyline to make sure
that it was accurate with the experience I had with my dog,
but also inserting a little bit of variety in the story
and making it okay with rescue organizations,
because how you word certain
things is really important in the rescue world. And then also illustrations were really important
to me because I'm a very visual person and I wanted to be able to work with an illustrator
that I thought was able to draw my dog really well, but also be really fun for kids. Because
when I wrote the book, I tried to remember all of the books that I read as a kid that I still remember today. Because that's, you
know, when you write a book, what you want little kids to have with your book is to be able to learn
a lesson, but also remember that when they're in their 20s. And so I tried to remember that. And I
also tried to kind of translate that into my writing with the book. But it was definitely a
harder process than I thought it would be for sure. So do you go and like, do you research old children's books to do? No, like I
remember, like I was thinking it was funny because I talked to my mom and I was like, because my mom's
written children's books too. And so I was saying to her, and I remember very well when I was little
and she was going through the whole process of writing her book and asking, you know, my siblings
and I what pictures we liked better. And, you know, that was really fun for us, but I wanted to be able to, you know, think about the books that I remember. So I remembered,
you know, I'll love you forever, which is like one of my favorite children's books and
rainbow fish and like all the books that you remember. I know. And it's such a cute book
because you remember it, but it also has like the lesson in it to, you know, um, to share and
always give back to others. So I think that you remember
certain books that have messages in them, but also ones that like, you know, I haven't read a
children's book or had story time in 20 something years, but I still remember those books. So it was
a fun process because you kind of got to re-remember and... It's like nostalgic. Exactly. Yeah. How are
children responding to it? They love it, which I'm so excited about,
because it's a different topic. And I had never seen a children's book that was talking about
animal rescue. And so I feel really, really lucky and really blessed to be able to have had,
you know, been able to travel around the country, which I'm still doing,
and doing little readings with kids everywhere and seeing how much they love it and how they
react to it. And, and it's really great great because when I'm doing this book with social media, people send
me videos of kids getting the book or kids reading it or wanting to read it at, you know, bedtime,
those kinds of things. So it makes me really excited. And also, um, you know, gets me really
excited that it could help get a lot of animals rescued, which is my main goal with the book was
not only to, you know, have the book in the hands of a lot of children,
but also be able to teach kids a lot about the amazing animals that are out there
that are available for adoption and hopefully get them excited about getting one themselves.
That's great. I love that you're doing that.
I feel like a children's book tour would be way more fun than a regular book tour.
What is the tour like?
Because everyone's so pumped to see you? It's so different. Yeah.
Well, it's also really different because for me, every single event that we've done is just
filled with tons of little children and like babies and little kids. And then a lot of
puppies that are available for adoption. So it's like a dream come true for every single event.
I'm like, I have to go to work, but it's not really work because I'm going there and signing
and selling books, of course, and talking about something that I'm really passionate about.
But I also get to sit and play with puppies and babies, which is like really fun for me. Yeah.
It's so fun. It's very different than my other two books because those were more serious,
even though this is a serious topic, but it's definitely to be able to go around and do
readings and things. Do you go to like schools and stuff? Yeah, we've done schools.
We did a school in Dallas and we've traveled around a bunch of different places. And a lot of the times I'll, I'll send books to different schools because I think that it's
important for, for kids to be able to have access to the book that don't, or wouldn't necessarily
have access to it. So for me, I love being able to like give the book to certain people. And
one of the things that I started doing when I was in New York, I love being able to like give the book to certain people. And one of the things
that I started doing when I was in New York, I did, we launched it in New York and I was there
for a week and we would go into all the Barnes and Nobles and sign all the books that are in
stock there. And I would always buy a couple of them and hand them to kids that were either in
the store that I would see throughout my day. And just to see how excited they would get with such
a rewarding experience. Cause you don't really do that with like an adult book.
You don't go and hand it to a stranger or you can,
but I just had never done that.
So when I would hand the book to a kid and they would see that it had a little
puppy on it or a little girl, um, they just were so excited about it.
And then I would tell them that this is about animal rescue and what animal
rescue is. And it was just such a, I love kids and I've always loved kids,
but people to see and teach them something that they didn't know about, um, has been really fun for me.
It's a good feeling too.
Yeah.
So you said you travel.
What's a day in the life when you're not traveling?
When I'm not traveling, I'm, I love waking up really early, which my dog actually forces
me to.
How early I need to be a better morning person.
Give me tips.
Okay.
Well, he's started lately waking me up at like six 30. Okay. Um, that's doable. Yeah, that's fine. Um, and it's actually
been nice cause when I travel, I'm like already have a little bit of jet lag, so I'll wake up
naturally. But, uh, I've always been a morning person. So like everyone in my family wakes up
crazy early. Um, so I take him on a long walk every single morning. I try to, and then I just
do a lot of writing and then things like this when I'm home in L.A.
and try to spend time with my family and friends, but also work at the same time.
So it's really fun for me.
And you're a blogger too, right?
Yes.
Okay, tell us about your blog.
It's katherineschwarzenegger.com.
And I have not been as active on it this past month just because I've been traveling so much.
So I have to get back on that.
But it's just everything under the umbrella of lifestyle.
So I do a lot of posts that are under the topic of lifestyle on your terms.
So I like to highlight women that are doing really interesting things under a section that we do called Real Women Doing Real Things.
Because I did this tour last summer for TJ Maxx where I traveled to 16 different cities and we interviewed over 600 women. And it was all about
highlighting everyday women and everything that they do and how they live their lives in their
own unique way. So I wanted to kind of start this series on my website where we highlight
women that you might know or women
that you not might may not know um that are doing really interesting things that I think are
important for people to know about so that for me is probably my favorite part um about doing my
website and and meeting new people and hearing all the interesting things that people are doing
especially um you know women that we might not know about or hear about to be able to you know
interview them or have them post on the site is really fun for me.
So at this point, would you list your profession as author? That's what you, that's full time.
That's what you, yeah. I mean, I did my first book seven years ago, so I had done three books
in seven years. So it's not like I have it every, I'm writing every single day, but it's funny
because, uh, you know, when you do a book, like when my book came out, the first day my book came out, I've been working on this book for a year.
And it's been like every single day we have like tons of calls about it.
I'm editing, doing everything.
It's like a big, you know, undertaking.
And everybody's always like, so when's your next book going to come out?
And I'm like, just give me a minute.
Oh, my God.
That's like a baby.
You have a baby. Constantly. But it's been like that since I did my first book, which I think is
really interesting because, um, I love writing books and I, I do them based on just things that
I'm really passionate about. And just life experience is really how all three of them have
come to be. Um, and I love doing, you know, blogging and I love doing that. But for me,
I love being able to write these books and then be able to go on a tour and get them out there and talk about the issues that I've written about.
But people are so like, so what are you going to do now?
Like when I'm like, it just came out, like, give me a minute.
You have to market the book.
Yeah. You kind of want to be able to appreciate and enjoy the fact that you just spent like a year working on something and it's now finally able to be in the hands of people and that you want to be able to talk about it.
And it's just it's in the culture, you know, of just constantly go, go, go, go.
And and, you know, what are you going to do next?
It's like it happens forever.
Like my mom has always told me that when you graduate high school, it's like, you gonna go to college where you graduate college what are you gonna you know do with your life
wait till you get engaged and married every minute i know but i just don't like for me it's like
you have a boyfriend when you're gonna get engaged when you get married when you have your first kid
when you have your second it's like this you know culture of constantly like you gotta kind of block
it out yeah but it's it's hard because it's you do you do any you can do whatever like you can do crazy amazing great things and people
are still going to be like so what are you gonna you're like just give me a quick moment to like
appreciate the fact that I'm doing something that I'm really excited about but I don't know when
like my next book is going to come out so it's a whole learning speaking of like of pressure
you obviously have two very overachieving parents.
Correct.
What's the pressure of growing up in a family like that?
Like,
cause I'm,
you know,
just to perform and get to that level.
Yeah.
I mean,
I,
um,
people ask me that a lot and I don't feel necessarily that I have pressure
from,
I definitely don't have pressure from my parents to do like big,
crazy things.
Um,
I would say
You're doing big things. This is huge. You're 27, you've written three books.
Yeah. You're doing okay. Like you're doing great. Um, but I think that, you know, it's inspiring
because I look at both my parents and I see everything that they've accomplished and continue
to accomplish. And it's exciting for me to, to see that and also, you know, be able to get inspired
to do that myself. I think one of the things my parents did a really good job with the four of us
kids is, um, letting us know that what we do in life does not equal their love for us. Um, which
I think is such an incredible gift for parents to give their kids is, you know, you don't have to
write three books in order for us to pay attention to you or for us to love you that will
love you no matter what. And as long as you work hard and, and, you know, do what you love in life,
you're good. So my parents always told us at a very young age that, you know, if you wanted to
have, I've always loved animals. My parents were like, if you want to be like a dog groomer, great,
be the best dog groomer that you can be and do that. Or, were like, if you want to be like a dog groomer, great. Be the best dog groomer that you can be and do that.
Or, you know, if you want to work in construction or be a teacher, whatever it is, it's not
that they raised us that we had to do, you know, big things or whatever it is.
It's really, we've had just incredible supportive parents that have just taught us that whatever
we want to do is like, is great. And there's no like
extra or additional pressure. But I would say that obviously I also come from a bigger extended
family that has done incredible things and changed the world in many ways. And that I think is really
inspiring because they, everybody in my family has found something that they're passionate in
and decided to use that
fire and energy to change the world and, and make the world a better place. And so, you know, for me,
I'm obviously really passionate about animal rescue and channeling my energy in that way. So
I think it's just about finding your path and where you're, um, you know, what you're excited
about and what you're passionate about and being able to kind of work in that area, I think is a really big gift. So it's not going to be construction.
You know, speaking of books and I don't want to go too deep in this, but there's probably one
autobiography that I recommend to everyone more than anyone. One of my favorites, your dad's book
is, I read it and I like outside of all, I literally give it to everyone. I'm like, read this. I'm like, if you feel like he gives everywhere. I literally go to everybody. I'm like, read this.
I'm like,
if you feel like he gives it out for Christmas and writes notes,
I'm like,
if you're like,
I was like,
quit making excuses and read this.
Look at these.
I know my dad's very good on excuses.
Not his thing.
Okay.
So you're a big advocate of women,
women supporting women.
Can you speak on that?
Yeah.
I mean,
I think,
um,
I learned that a lot from my mom.
Um,
and I'm,
you know,
I'm sure you are very aware that when you're in especially an industry like this, there are a lot of women or whatever industry, there are a lot of women who are of the mindset that there's not enough room for everybody. one blogger or one actress or one model. And I watched my mom and how she interacted with
women in her field and her fields as she kind of has changed, you know, as I've been alive. But,
and I just saw how supportive my mom was of women of all walks of life and how she was always of
the mindset that there's enough room for all of us and we should all work to build each other up instead of knock each other down. And for me, I really tried to live that with,
with, with that mentality, because I think that, you know, there's so much negativity
in the world right now. And I think, especially with women on, you know, being negative to other
women, um, that I'm very much of like the mindset that there's enough room for all of us and why
not work to help each other and to lift each other up and if you do this that's so great and you know
if I can be of any help then I want to help and if you can help me then you can help like
I I love that whole mentality and I think that that's one of the things that I really appreciate
about this whole um I don't really like to call it a blogger world, but like the whole world of being able to,
you know, work where you want to work and do what you want to do in life, whether that's,
you know, a website or an Instagram account or, you know, or, you know, working in a nine to five
job, whatever that is, just being able to find ways to help each other and then actually do that
for me is something that I find to be
really rewarding and also really exciting when I see women doing things with other women.
Because again, I think it's just such a hard and crazy environment that we're in today.
And the whole women, you know, being mean to women thing is not like a new thing at all. But I find
that, you know, for me, as I get older and I see more,
uh, different work dynamics as I, you know, have experiences, it's really exciting for me to be
able to encourage that. I think that's awesome. Okay. So we were just kind of talking about
social media and anxiety. Can you speak on that? Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to figure out,
I feel like everybody's trying to figure out a balance with social media. And I, um, I really am trying to figure out a balance because you want to be in the present
and you want to be in the moment of your life and you don't want to just see, you know, like
your get to a certain age and be like, wow, I videotaped and took pictures of myself for the
past 15 years. And like, what do I have to say for it? Um, but I think that there's
just so much pressure to document everything and to, you know, take selfies and, and this whole,
we're in this whole generation of constantly having to like know what everybody's doing,
show everybody what you're doing. And I appreciate that on some level, but on another level, I'm just like,
what is, like, it doesn't even matter.
Like it's, I think social media is so great
to be able to change the world
and, you know, of course, show people pretty things,
but I just think that it's creating so much anxiety.
I see it with my friends and I see it with myself
of just like having to constantly like,
oh, I missed this, if I don't post for a week.
People are going to forget about me. And it's like, who do you really like?
Why do we care if somebody forgets about you for a week?
It's just like this constant need for everybody to feel like everybody has to know about, you know, what you're doing.
And I'm really into this this guy who is an incredible preacher, but also an author.
His name is Devon Franklin.
And he just came out with a book recently.
And my mom interviewed him last week.
And he was talking about how my generation, our generation, is all into a selfie generation.
And that at some point, we're going to have to turn the camera around and have a different mindset and mentality with how we live our lives and, um, and how we
want to change the world. And I thought it was so interesting because it's true that like every,
and I'm definitely not saying that I don't post selfies cause I do, but I think that it's just a
different mentality with how we live our lives and at what point we're going to say like a selfie is a selfie,
but like, what am I really doing in this world? And what, how am I changing this world? And how
am I going to leave this world a better place? Um, so it's just something that I'm constantly
like figuring out because sometimes I'll want to not post anything for a while. And then people
I'll be in a meeting. Someone will be like, well, why didn't you post this week?
Like I was in a meeting last week and someone was like, why didn't, here's your analytic, like why didn't you post, you know, this, these five days in this month?
And I was like, I was on vacation with my family.
And when you're on vacation with your family, for me, I love being with my family and I love being present and in the moment and, you know, just being with each other. I want to do that but then it's like then you get flack for it so it's like it's it's such a hard and I think at the end of the day like when I go to meetings and someone's
like this is a missed opportunity that you like didn't post and I'm like that's so stupid like
it's so dumb I want to be able to spend time with my family and be in the moment and be present.
And everyone's going to survive, including myself. If I take like a week off of posting
on social media, it's just like a, it's, you have to learn as you go. Yeah. Yeah.
How do you shut it off? I don't know. I'm like learning. It's hard though, because you know,
if you don't, it's like, I'm okay with not posting for a week like I'm like
great I don't I don't really like I don't really think that if I don't post for a week that the
you know there's going to be a huge adjustment yeah a huge uproar like I don't care and I think
that like you look at someone like Justin Bieber who's obviously like on a huge different scale but
him taking like a year off of social media to like get it together.
I think it's just really admirable.
And I think there should be more talk about that because it's really
important. I think also not only for anxiety,
but really just overall mental health for,
for people who are so immersed in their phone and what's going on on their
phone and all the different apps and everything,
there should be more talk.
And I think we're talking more about mental health in general in the world, but I think that just being able to
talk about how all the different apps and the social media is affecting our mental health.
And then like the longevity of our mental health, like how, I don't know personally, like how that
all will play out, but I can't imagine that going at the rate that we're going at, that's going to
be really healthy. Yeah. I totally agree with you. It's crazy. I don't know, you're 27. So you're
just a little bit younger than us, but you know, we didn't grow. We got all the way pretty much
through high school without anything. Right. Like, I mean, I still had like a flip phone when I was
in, you were playing snake. I was like, yeah, you remember those things? Cause Facebook didn't come
out until I was a freshman in college.
But it's crazy to see the younger generation.
It makes you feel old now.
That's all they know.
I literally look at them and I'm really sad.
Like it makes me really, really sad because I loved my high school experience so much.
Like I loved my high school.
I went to Broward School.
I thought it was incredible.
And I just had such amazing friends
and, um, such an amazing experience there that I go back and I see the girls that are
in high school or middle school now. And they, first of all, they look like very old and very
mature, which I think is crazy, but they're all doing the selfies or taking pictures or
documenting their entire experience,
which is like, it's fun to take pictures with your friends. But like, I have pictures with
my friends that are on like a Polaroid camera where we look crazy. And I love being able to
like, look back at that and seeing like, oh, we were such crazy outfits. We're all in like
juicy jumpsuits and we all have braces. We all have braids. Like it's, it's really fun to be
able to do that. And I feel like now it's going to be so filtered, you know, and it's so much pressure to post. And also it's makes it high school's
already so dramatic and gossipy and like mean, but then you add the social media component to it.
And I'm like, I would not at all want to be a part of that. And I also look at parents
and it gives me anxiety for the parents who have to like, who have to know that their
14 year old is posting stuff on Instagram. And like, do you check their Instagram? Do you have
access to their Instagram? Yeah. And I wasn't, I was the last one of my friends to get a cell phone
and I got my cell phone when I was in ninth grade. I was the last one of my friends. And I thought
that it was like the craziest, most ridiculous rule that my parents had made, um, that I was not allowed to have a cell phone when I was in seventh and eighth
grade. And I see now kids that are in like fourth grade that have cell phones. Oh, it's crazy. Do
you, did you ever have a pager? I did not have a pager. We had, we had pagers back in the day.
That was too much. You get the pager. He used to page me when we were in like seventh grade,
one, four, three3 which means i love you
every morning i'm a real romantic i was like i'm gonna hit you i was like an original that was
like the original text messaging that's really nice though that's like a special memory and then
like you'd get the page and like hold on and you have to get on the pay phone yeah oh my god a pay
phone because you you could page somebody all these youngins listen here you get the page and
you'd have to list the number of like the payphone that
you're at.
So for example,
like if,
if Lauren was at home,
but I was,
I don't know,
at the mall or something and I would page her and then I'd have to page her
the number of the payphone,
which you don't even see.
And then they would call and I'd be like,
Hey,
you know,
can you talk about your wellness?
Like what you do for wellness?
Meaning,
do you like acupuncture?
Like what's,
what's your thing? Acupuncture scares. I would love to get into acupuncture it's very
terrifying for me i just don't i the whole like concept of needles just sitting on i just i can't
deal with you have piercings i do it's very and i have touch like it's i have tattoos it's very
weird um i just don't like them just like sitting there on it's very weird i can see what she's
saying yeah it is like they're sitting on my head.
Why?
Yeah.
She does it.
Like I'll go, but the one thing that I freak out about is, you know, when they're in you
and I like think about like, what if I have to roll or what if something like falls?
And I'm like, what if I have to make an escape and I'm like running around with needles everywhere?
Yeah.
It's very scary.
What do you do for your wellness routine?
I like when I, when I walk with my dog in the morning, I like to be able
to start my day off that way because I try not to, I try not to walk and have my cell phone smart.
Um, so for me, I like to be able to do that, which I think is for me, walking is like a really
good way to start my day and also like get my blood flowing. Um, but when it comes to like wellness,
I really like to be around people that make me feel loved and happy. And, um, and I think that
there should be more emphasis on that because I think that you're constantly around people that
are just like there for a picture or, you know, to show what you're doing on Snapchat or that kind
of a thing. And really being able to be around people that make you feel good and that make you laugh and make you feel loved and
supported, um, is such an incredible gift for me and, and makes me just feel good and, um,
kind of recharge, especially when I'm traveling all the time. Um, so doing things like that,
that just like make you feel like yourself, but also kind of like are able to recharge.
What about diet and fitness? What's your workout routine?
I love body by Simone. Okay. I got to try that. No.
Okay. I go, I feel like you'd have one of the best trainers in the world.
Yeah. If I wanted to get like yoke, that would be really good.
I'd be fine. No, my, I mean, my parents are super active. So like my dad wakes
up every morning at like five in the morning and goes on a bike ride, which, um, you know,
he goes and we'll kind of ride by where I live and, and try and get us out of bed to go with him.
But, um, so we always kind of grew up with that. He just shoots by on the bike. The other day,
he just came by, but it was in the evening, which is very unlike him.
He came by at like five o'clock in the evening on a bicycle with a flashlight on it.
I was like, what are you doing?
I feel like.
You need a bike.
Yeah.
He's going to go buy a bike.
No, he's going to go get a bike after you just said that.
I know he is.
Now I'm going to go get a bike.
My dad's obsessed with bike riding.
And my mom, my mom loves walking, but she also loves to go down to the gym.
She has a gym in her home and she goes and she works out every single morning.
So I grew up seeing my parents work out every morning and then sometimes in the evening as well.
And when we were little on the weekends, there was zero like I'm going to sit on the couch and watch TV.
If we turn on the TV during the day when we were little, it was just like immediate ground.
Like you were grounded immediately.
So we were always active.
Yeah, always active. And now like if I'm 27 now and I live in like my own place and if I'm on the
couch during the day, I like have anxiety. Like in my mind, I'm like, I, this is a waste of time.
Like, what am I doing? And I have that same mentality about sleeping in. Like, I'm like,
why am I sleeping in? I should be changing the world. I should be out doing that. Like,
yeah. Doing crazy things, which I think is not the. I should be out doing that. Like, yeah, doing crazy
things, which I think is not the best thing, but I think that it's, it's just being active. I love
doing, um, workouts with a bunch of my girlfriends. I think it's really fun. So whether we go on like
a hike, um, or go to a body by Simone class or yoga, those things are really fun for me.
Food. What about food? So I've been a vegetarian for like 10 years. Okay. Um, and I'll
sometimes have fish. So a little bit pescatarian. That's what I'm doing right now. I just stopped
eating meat two months ago. Oh, how'd you like it? You feel good. Yeah. You feel good for sure.
And I never really liked meat growing up anyway. Um, but I'm kind of feeling like I'm like my body
feels like it might need some meat now for like the first time ever.
So I'm also trying to figure out what that is. Um, but I, I'm not, I really want to learn how
to cook because I'm really bad. Like very, very bad. Yeah. Michael, Michael's looking at, I'm
basically living off Postmates at this point. I know it's so bad. It's really nice cause it's
convenient, but it's really bad because I feel like it's enabling people to not learn how to make food
for themselves. Lauren has our pantry and it's like my hot subject. It's all organized perfectly,
but there's nothing in there that's edible. I don't think it's only like weird.
Everything's organized. I'm like super. Mine's the exact same way. I have like,
everything is labeled and it's like it had, there's some chips. I have, if you look at my
pantry, you would say like that for sure a four-year-old lives there for sure. Like there's,
there's auntie Annie's mac and cheese, crackers, chips. There's just like a string cheese. Like
it's very, it literally, like I live in a home when my friend comes over with her little kids,
I'm like, this is perfect for them. Cause they can just eat every single thing that I have here. What are your favorite healthy
recipes or meals or things that you do that just promote health? Recipes? I don't know.
Here's a better question. What's something that you do that's not so common that you do
consistently that you think has helped with wellness or health or exercise? I've started
making my own coffee, which is not very, not like a big deal,
but I think that that's like very calming. I also love being able to light incense in the morning
for me is like, starts my day off. Some people are like, yeah, I totally get what you're saying.
Some people think that in order for you to kind of be able to start your day in a certain way
that you have to meditate, which my mom is very big
on like meditation and doing that. And I appreciate that a hundred percent. I'm just not able right
now. Don't you feel like it's meditating though, when you're lighting your incense or putting your
oils on or music? I'm very into that. Like the crystals, the incense, like the oils, let's do
it all for sure. She tries to talk to me in the morning. I'm like, I don't want to talk.
No, I'm glad you said that because I have a really,
I gave the meditation thing like a really good try, right?
Like I really tried to get myself.
I did a whole course on it too.
I didn't go that far.
Okay, I did that.
Someone told me I need to do the course
and I was like, I don't know if that would help me either.
But now you're telling me,
maybe don't waste time with the course.
But I could never, I can't sit still.
Like I can't sit, I just can't do it.
I have to be moving and running around. And I think I get my meditation from like either reading or working out or, but I just, I can't sit still. Like I can't sit, I just can't do it. I have to be moving and running around.
And I think I get my meditation from like either reading or working out or, but I just,
He's a big reader.
I can't sit there and just be still.
But I think it's therapeutic.
Like she's saying to wake up and light your stuff.
Well, like to have a routine.
I think that there's so, there's something about having a routine that just like makes
you start your day.
And when I don't do it, I'm like, I feel crazy in the
morning. Um, but like doing different things, like whether it's like doing laundry, like I love doing
that or organizing my home. I think it's like, that to me is very calming. Um, when I go to the
farmer's market, I love being able to like do flowers in my home. That's very calming for me.
So there are a lot of different things that, um, that I think are like meditative practices,
um, but not necessarily like sitting
in the traditional meditation. But my mom is constantly on my siblings and I, you know,
you need to do the meditation. You need to be able to like, you know, have time where you're,
you shut your brain off. And I'm like, I don't think that I'm shutting. I, when I did try the
meditation, I was doing it in the morning and the evening. And when I would do it in the morning,
I would just fall back asleep. So I really didn't, I was very confused about the purpose.
You know what? I'm the same way. I'm going to light my oil or put on my oils and put on my
bossa nova. That's my thing. Okay. So what are your beauty secrets?
Sunscreen. I'm very, very fair. See guys? Yeah. I'm like very pale. So I so I uh I have like for sure my mom's out of the family Irish
skin so I'm all about sunscreen I definitely appreciate like a very good spray tan because
I don't like to lay out in the sun um so I always tell I have a bunch of like younger girl cousins
and I always tell them to wear a sunscreen um even when you're just like running around during
the day to be able to get like a foundation or something that has sunscreen in it. Um, and I'm nuts about my
skincare. Like I'm crazy obsessive with it just because I, I find it, I find it fascinating. Like
I think skincare is so interesting and all the development and like new products I think are so
interesting. I have like a hoarding problem with products cause I'm always trying new and different
things. Um, but I, I love right now this, uh, Korean skincare line called
Airborian skincare. Um, their stuff smells really good, but they also have like a BB cream and, um,
and kind of like a makeup version of things that they can, that you can use with, you know,
like a morning skincare routine of like washing and cleansing your face and then giving it the vitamins and nutrients that it needs, but then
also being able to want to, you know, put on makeup and things like that. But I'm always trying
new and different things. I love the whole sheet mask thing. When I travel, I bring like seven with
me at all times because your skin gets so dehydrated when you're traveling. Um, but I'm
always on my skincare. Like it's a whole thing for me. Literally like we'll be sitting at brunch and Lauren will just turn to me and look at me and
be like, you need a facial. I was like, great, great. And then I was, you know what though?
His skin has changed since he started being with me. Like it's, I got him on mandelic serum.
He's doing good. He does sheet mask. I'm one of those people. If you show me what to do,
then I can do it. I just maybe don't do the research for certain things like that.
Well, I feel like most men don't do research for it.
Like, I feel like most men don't really do research for it unless their girlfriends or
wives are like, today we're going to do a sheet mask.
Like, if I just came in and hit you with like a shitload of knowledge right now about skincare.
You do know a lot about skincare.
No, no.
Yeah, but I'm sure he knows a lot about skincare from you.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I mean, you just have to be insulted numerous times in the week to get on it.
You know how psycho I am? I have driving gloves because I don't want numerous times in the week to get on it you know
how psycho i am i have driving gloves because i don't want my hands that takes it to a different
level i don't even have that i'm gonna take it to another level right now i have i just bought a
mask visor no a mask okay on amazon a ski mask with two holes in the eyes i mean you're gonna
look like a bandit driving around i want to look like I'm 21 my whole life. I don't want, why would I ever want to go in the sun?
Like, I mean, I agree with you a hundred percent.
Even these lights, I wear sunscreen at night.
Like that's how crazy I am.
I'm all about skincare.
You want to get one of those moonburns, you know?
No.
Okay.
So what is next for you?
I know that you don't love that question, but like, even if it's like, you know, you're
traveling for your book tour, tell us. Yeah, I'm still traveling for my book tour.
So I'll be doing my book, um, my book tour and, uh, kind of traveling around and doing different
events all through probably up until like holidays. Um, so, which is really great and
really exciting for me because kind of, as I travel and meet new people or meet different people,
we kind of continue to plan different events.
So like this weekend, I have one with PETA, which I'm really excited about. PETA Kids,
we're going to do a reading with them at their center. I think it's in Silver Lake.
So just kind of as I kind of go and meet new people, I'm going to San Francisco next week and then to UC Davis, which I'm very excited about because it's like the largest veterinary
clinic in the country. So I'm very excited about that. So I just kind of travel and I'm going to the Texas book
festival in November. And, um, so yeah, just a lot of that and traveling around, talking about the
book, getting the book in the hands of kids everywhere and, um, and teaching them all about
animal rescue. I love it. Where can everyone find you? Um, my social media, you mean? Yes. Uh, so your address. Yeah. Wait, I want to drive by on my bicycle. I'm going to,
I'm going to show up with my, how creepy that'd be. It's like after this, you were like sitting
in your house eating. I would really appreciate it. And you saw me like roll up behind your dad
with a flashlight. I would, by the way, that would make my day. All right. So yeah, I'll,
I'll work on that. I'll stock the address. Go get a bicycle today, that would make my day. Don't let anything pass him. All right. So yeah, I'll work on that.
I'll stock the address.
Go get a bicycle today and you can make that happen.
I'll be behind him with my sheet mask.
Yeah.
You want a bicycle, you'd be in like a full.
Full body suit.
If you see someone with a ski mask chasing me, don't worry.
It's just my wife.
Oh my God.
I love that.
Anyway, I have Instagram.
It's just my full Catherine Schwarzenegger.
I feel bad like when I tell people where to follow me. People are like, I really have to spell your whole-
Yeah, you do have to spell your name. Just spell the whole thing just so anyone-
So Catherine, K-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E.
I'm pretty sure people are going to know how to spell it.
No, it's very confusing for people. It's been spelled all the time.
I was Googling it. No, it's a hard name to spell.
S-C-H-W-A-R-Z-E-N-E-G-G-E-R.
Spell that.
Well, I can't do that. Yeah, see?
And where your blog is just your full name. Okay. And tell us where they can find the book.
Oh, it's at Barnes and Noble. It's also on Amazon. And then it's in bookstores if anybody wants to go into a bookstore because no one seems to be doing that anymore. I go to bookstores all
the time. I love a bookstore. Actually, when I'm super stressed, I don't I would meet a guy, a bookstore. I don't even know if you know this.
When I'm super stressed out or like having a meltdown, I don't know what to do.
I do know this.
I drive to a Barnes & Noble and sit there and like I'm like one of those weird people.
Now you're taking your bike.
The elderly person.
And I just sit there and like read and chill out.
It's like it's calming to be.
It's very calming.
It's very quiet.
And also I hadn't been in like the kids section of bookstores in a while.
But now since I'm on this book tour, I'll go into kids sections of bookstores.
And they're packed.
Kids are in there all the time of all ages.
And it's a great little reading spot.
There's only one section of the bookstore that I'm a little confused about.
They have the DVD section.
Who the hell is getting the DVDs?
I can understand about the...
I'd love for Blockbuster to reopen that.
I feel like those are really fun,
like renting a movie for the weekend.
Blockbuster blew it.
They should have been Netflix.
They should have.
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