The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Adam Carolla - Politics, Comedy, Surviving Cancel Culture, Hollywood Corruption & More

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

My son kind of likes the revelry stuff and the speak your mind stuff and all that stuff. And I said, you know, that's all well and good, but you better get good at something. Because if you're a really good engine builder, for instance, like, like there's only a handful of guys who can build some of these race engines. The guy's slow and he's douchey. And these places, like you go, when's the engine going to be ready? And they'll go, six months. And you'll call them in six months. And you'll go, is the engine ready? And they'll go, nah, six more months. And they'll hang up the phone because what are you going to do? Same way if you're a really good

fabricator or you're a really good welder or or really good carpenter or really good comedian, but you got to be good. Speak your mind all you want, but keep in mind, you've got to be good. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. Today we have a long overdue episode with the one and only Adam Carolla. I say this is long overdue because when Lorne and I started our podcast back in 2016, we joined a company called Podcast One. This is vintage days back in the old days of our show, back before we really knew what we were doing in this space.

And one of the flagship shows that was at Podcast One, I'm not sure if it still is or isn't, was Adam Carolla and his show. Adam Carolla is a legend in this space. He's been an OG podcaster for as long as I can remember in podcasting, may have been one of the first. And for those of you that are unfamiliar with Adam Carolla, Adam is a comedian, actor, podcast host, radio personality, TV host, and bestselling author from humble beginnings to earning the Guinness Book of World Records for the most downloaded podcast with the Adam Carolla Show. Many of you may also remember Adam from The Man Show. He has been in and around media for a very long time. What I love about Adam the

most is he's just an everyday guy that calls it how he sees it, says what he wants. And that's something that Lauren and I really respect, especially in today's age where people are scared to say anything. With that, Adam Carolla, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. I got to start this episode out. The boys here all want to know, can you bring back girls on trampolines? I feel like we're so far past that now. Like, if you really think about the humble origins of erotica. When I was a kid, I remember like finding a newspaper that had like a black and white,

but like topless woman on it, like coveting this thing, you know? And while it's a, you know, it's kind of a nice nostalgic thing. We just, I just feel like with all the porn and OnlyF fans and everything everywhere we're just so far past that you know we've experienced stretched 13 year old boys don't need us anymore you know like we were on the last we were like the last cuss with the generation

to have that like i remember you'd go into a canyon and somebody would leave behind like a dirty magazine and you would hold that thing and you would hide it in your room and you would pray that nobody ever found it or you find like an old vhs tape and you'd put it in like the men in black tape so that like nobody yeah you know you would hide the now it's like people can just get it in two seconds you were getting blowjobs at 12 so not everyone was doing that and do men in black three no one will touch that men in black one your dad may decide to revisit that one no joke my buddy this is a real story my buddy had his porn hidden in the men in black one tape and his parents went through a divorce and his dad went into a rage and swiped all of the vhs like i'm taking these

with me and it took his porn and it was it was devastating for him adam at this point how how do you even i like that he got he got through the divorce unscathed, but the fact that his porn had been confiscated by his dad, that was the part that sent him into therapy. Yeah, he still talks about it. He's 37 and he's still talking about it. Adam, at this point, how do you introduce yourself? How would you even go about it?

Oh, I don't introduce myself that much. I just say my name, Oh, I don't introduce myself that much. I do. I just say my name. And but I think you're probably asking, you know, what is the title? You know, when they bring you up on stage, you know, they'll go, you know, I'm from, you know, I'm from. For me, I don't really think about it. Most people kind of a man show thing, people may know me from podcasting.

Loveline? Loveline. Yeah, there's people who like the Catch a Contractor show or like some books I wrote or some documentaries I made. So I'm never quite sure where people are and they don't cross-pollinate that much. Like sometimes they'll go, you know, Oh, we love all the books or whatever. And then I go, President Me's phenomenal. Oh, thank you. I'll go, I'll go, Oh, have you seen any of my docs? And they go, you do docs, you know, so they don't, they're low information voter fans.

And huge podcasts though. A lot of people, I feel like you're known as one of the huge podcast Kings. Yeah. I started early and did it often. Well, I have to tell you when Lauren and I, we started in 2016 doing this. So not the earliest, but also not so late. We were doing it like almost 10 years now, eight years. And we started it out of our living room and we didn't, we were just like, okay, we had no idea what we were doing, but we got approached by podcast one and we went there like our first, we were like 2017, 18 were there. And like you were there, you were like the pinnacle, you were the flagship show at the time. And Norm brought us into the office and did all this with Mike August. I think it was his name and all those guys. But I remember, and that feels like so long ago and you had been doing it much longer than that. Yeah. I'd been doing it for seven years probably before, prior, prior to that. But for me, it was, it's really just a made up kind of dream job. You know, I, I remember speaking many years ago. I mean, we're probably going back to like 1991, maybe even 92.

And I was doing sketch comedy at the Acme Theater. I was at the Groundlings. I went through the Groundlings and then they kind of booted me out and make the Sunday show. And then I started Acme Theater. And we had a director that I kind of respected, and he saw me improv and sketch and writing and that kind of stuff.

And I said to him, like one day after rehearsal or something, I said, where do you see me? Like, do you see me as a performer, or do you see me as kind of a writer? Because I was never really a performer per se, or even a gifted performer. I was more of kind of a writer. I like writing the sketches and, and I would perform, but I, I would kind of like to create, you know, more so than, than be on stage. But he said to me, Adam, you just need a thing where you just talk into a microphone for like two hours every day about all the stuff

you're complaining about and thinking about that. That's what you should be doing. And I was like, yeah, but that's not a job. It doesn't exist really. What he was describing like a made-up thing that would be perfect for me and then you know all those years later podcasting sort of came about and it turned out that was that job that he's like this is what you need to do I remember at the time I was like thanks for nothing like that's not a job but turned out that is what podcasting is, at least for me. I think like, I, when I, you know, I'm close to the business I run is this one that we're in right now. And I, and I'm so I sit on the mic, but I'm also like on the business side of it. And I, I was talking to some of the agency guys and I think you were one of the original people and it

might've been like a flowers.com ad or something, something like that. And before they figured out how to price this stuff and it was like on a commission base. Yeah. Is that correct? Yeah. Like you were one of the guys and they had to pay out so much cause they never thought the medium was, and then all of a sudden it started converting like crazy and they changed the whole models and stuff. But I think like that's not to age you. Yeah. And I guess I'm nerding out a little bit. Lauren's like, what are you talking about? But you for sure were one of the pioneers that like kind of put this space on the map. Well, we, we sort of helped, you know, I wasn't the first podcast. That's for sure.

I, I will take some credit for maybe the live comedy podcast. Cause I started doing live podcasts in oh nine. And I don't think anyone else was doing a live comedy. I know the audience didn't know what the hell we were doing. They thought they were seeing a standup show or whatever, but doing the live version of the podcast and maybe converting the podcast into a business model. I will take some credit for that. Although it wasn't my idea for a model. It was the same model as radio and TV and every form of media really before that.

I was just like, look, if you get enough listeners and eyeballs or ears or both or whatever it is, then you should be able to sell that to somebody pro flowers or whomever flowers. And, and nobody listened at the beginning because it didn't exist. And when things don't exist, people just go, well, that doesn't exist. You know? And I go, well, maybe it will one day, you know, and they go, well, it doesn't exist now, you know? So they're sort of like, how would that work? And I was just like, well, what's the difference between this and radio I've been doing at the time? I, you know, I was probably doing radio for like, you know, 14 years or something. I was like the same thing, just sell ads against the show you're advertising on if it's a popular show, you know, and people like,

that's never going to work. But that's what it turned out to be because I didn't have any specific knowledge. I was just like, it's going to be the same as radio. What do you think the secret sauce is for talking on a mic? If someone wants to enter right now today, 2024, what do you think the tools are? You know, I think you should have something to say, which sounds kind of trite, but I just mean a point of view, you know, something that's interesting, you know, why, I guess, I guess I would say, why you, why do you need to talk into a mic? Why do we need to hear you? You know, because your takes may be the same as others. It may not be unique. It may not be interesting.

I think artistically, whether you're painting or talking or doing standup, you know, you'd have to go, why do people need to hear from me? Like, well, what is it that I would bring that is so unique and different that we don't

already have 10 versions of it, you know, in the potosphere. So I would like, cause I think a lot of people just go like, I want to do this, but why, why do we need to hear what you have to say? And, and the answer can't be because it's me, because we don't care about you. Right. We, we need, we need you to say something that we don't care about you. Right. We need you to say something that we can't find and or have some format that's so unique and different that it becomes compelling.

And maybe have some conviction. I think also when people say that they want to be the next Adam, I don't think that that's strong enough either. Like you said, you have to have a point of view. You can't be the next anyone. Do you know so i think there's a lot there's a lot in what is it you would be doing anyway you know it's how we started we started we're like we did it for two or three years with no income from this platform it was just like something we wanted we had to do it yeah i i think anybody who has a a business so hopefully starts off organically and this is what I'm attracted to, and this is my passions, and this is why whatever, and then somehow along the way you figure out this before I get paid or how come I have to do it, you know, twice a week. Couldn't I do it once a week?

Like the people that are already kind of jockeying for less work and more money, not, they're not really interested in it. I mean, they, they like the sound of it. Like, uh, you know, teenage girl likes the idea of being a model or, uh, you know, a 13 year old boy likes the idea of being an NBA player or something, but do you really love it? Are you going to work hard enough for it? I mean, it's pretty, the equation is pretty simple. Would you do it for free? And would you do it quite consistently for free? And if the answer is yes, then, then you like it and you have a passion for it. It doesn't mean you're good at it, but it means you do it. You will do it. Yeah. It's, it's, it's funny. Cause like in this, when I wear the, this, I guess the executive hat seat and people start in the first question is like,

how much are you going to pay me up front before I've even done the thing or prove the thing? I'm like nothing. Or they say I make this much on my social media. So I should be making this much from the podcast. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're starting a whole new platform over here. You have to put the work in. You're not just going to switch platforms and make the same amount of money right away. I mean, I just don't think that's how it works. What did you think you were going to be when you were a kid? What did you want? I mean, is this kind of mapped out or what did your dad want you to be like? Where did you think you were going to end up? I, my dad didn't want me to do anything. My family didn't want me to do anything. We weren't

sort of career oriented, you know, we weren't, you know, from Appalachia and coal miners or anything, but my family's kind of depressed and poor and just sort of, you know, just go get a job. You know, they, they wanted, I never, I never discussed a career with them. We weren't any career. People didn't have careers sort of where I came from. You, you know, there was jobs, people got jobs and, and they got jobs and then they got paid and, you know, kind of idea was to get paid as much as you could by the hour essentially. And, and, and it was very job.

I didn't go to college. My family was very kind of, yeah, a little lazy and depressed, I would say. North Hollywood. Okay. Kind of different, regular people I grew up around, but my family was on the poor side and kind of not very ambitious or whatever.

My mom was kind of depressed, you know, like welfare, food stamps, stuff like that, and just kind of, you know, hang out all day. Nobody had a credit card or bought new furniture, had cable. There wasn't anything. It was just sort of hang out. And so in terms of the expectations for me, they didn't have expectations for me. They just, they needed me to leave, you know, at a certain point and I could get a job somewhere doing something.

So I was, I came from pretty poor people who didn't have, no one ever bought a new car or like literally our piece of furniture or, you know, credit cards. And we didn't, there's no vacations. There was no, nothing. We just sort of sat around and we didn't have anything. And so then I'm not trying to laugh, but just the way you say it, there wasn't stuff, you know, I didn't have a mini bike. I didn't have a dog. I didn't have a basketball hoop.

There's nothing. We just, we lived in my grandmother's second dilapidated house in North heart, one bedroom, one bath, kind of like farmhouse, junker. And we just sat in it. I'm not trying to laugh. You're just using so many negative words. They're not. Well, they were like lazy, kind of depressed, downtrodden, poor people.

I just sat around all day. So where does this drive and ambition and discipline and all of these things that create success come from? Well, I'll tell you in a second, but I was a jock. I wanted to play sports. I want to play football. I love football and I was good at football. And I was just like, oh, this is what I'm going to do.

And I couldn't read or write. I didn't know. Scholastically, I was in a lot of trouble and it just, I just played sports. And then I just sort of thought, oh, you know, maybe you can play sports, you know, but I didn't, you know, it wasn't really a business decision, you know? And then, then I did, but then I got out of high school and I just, you know, walked on a construction site and I just started looking for jobs like I just, you know, walked on a construction site and I just started looking for jobs like liquor stores, supermarkets, whatever. I just, I just, whatever

you can make a buck at. Yeah. I got a, I like walked onto a construction site and you know, they told me to start picking up garbage and handed me a shovel. I was like pretty young, 21, maybe 22. And I was like, like i don't know what kind of life is this it's it's hard you know it's dirty it's hot outside construction guys kind of suck mostly it's hard labor all the time too yeah it's real it's real dirty and it's early in the morning and you get yelled at a lot and you have to climb around. Some of it's kind of dangerous. You have to crawl under buildings and stuff like that. And I was just like, this doesn't seem like a good long-term thing, you know?

And then I was like, well, what do you do? What are you good at? What can you do? And I was like, well, I'm a good carpenter. I'm good with my hands. I'm good at the building stuff. And I have a sense of humor. Now, I don't know what it the building stuff and I have a sense of humor now I don't know what it means but I do have a sense of humor I know that and I was like I understood enough to

go I know I'm a funny person I just have no idea how that would translate into any kind of revenue and I wasn't really like well I'm a stand-, I'll start doing standup or something. I was, it was like, I think you're kind of a humorist or something. And so like, I talked to a friend of mine's mom who, who did work in the, in the industry or her dad was like a music arranger or something, but she was like into the arts, you know? And I said, well, what'd you do? Like, where should I go? What should I do? And she goes, well, take a groundlings class. I was like, I don't know what that is. And I said, well, they have the theater down on Melrose. You know, you could go down there on a Friday, check out one of their shows. And so I just went to a

groundling show and, and I, I was like, oh wow, this is fun. They're making it up. You know, they're making it up and improvising and stuff. And I thought, wow, this really feels cool to me. I would love to be a part of something like this. So I, I signed up for a Groundlings class and, you know, it was probably like 250 bucks that I definitely didn't have. Like I didn't have insurance for my truck and stuff, but I was like going, all right, now listen, you're going to have to allocate some money and some time toward this thing that you think you have, which is a sense of humor, but you have never

been on stage or been in a school play. You know, I went from basically the football field to a construction site. I didn't know Shakespeare or stage at the time. Like what the hell are you doing? What are they? You know, they weren't out of an eighties movie. Give me a hard time, but they were just, you know, regular jockey Valley dudes, but they weren't, you know, like, you know, racist or anything. They just like, they like to drink, fuck around, fight a little bit, get laid, make and bust everyone's balls. You know what I mean?

And they, they would laugh, you know, they got that I'd bust their chops back or whatever. I mean, they weren't, you know, movie stereotype, blue tie, you know, when they go blue collar, like stupid. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Blue collar guys are funny. Usually a lot of them are kind of funny they're like busting everyone's chops and playing pranks on people and stuff so they like they didn't know what it was they probably thought it was sort of a waste but they're like yeah go take your stupid gay class

at night you know that's basically what they probably thought. Uh, so I did, I just started, I just said, all right. And I was like, I was like 22 and I was like, okay, you're not going to figure this out in a year or maybe even two years, or, you know, no one's going to start paying you to do comedy, but you know, you're only 22 years old and you know, you really don't need to be doing anything until you're 30. If you think about it, you can kind of be a loser all through your twenties. Cause you're, you're in your twenties trying to figure it out, you know? So I, I said, you know, but by the time you're 30, you gotta be doing something with this. And, and that doesn't mean sitcom star or anything. It just means getting paid for your ideas and not having to carry drywall and plywood

and do stuff like that. Like just the rule is you get paid for your ideas and your thoughts and your creativity. And you could be writing greeting cards. Like it's not, I'm not talking about producing or being a director. Just needing to replace the hard labor. So you're going to get off the construction site. You're not going to be moving stuff and you're going to sit somewhere, hopefully some air conditioning, and you're going to go, here are my ideas or my jokes or my

thoughts and, and, and you'll get, you know, whatever, 25 grand a year, that'll be enough. You know, it's just something, it was pretty humble. It was really the move from sort of analog to digital for me. It's like, I, I, all I've ever done is get paid to lift things and move things and fix things. And, and, and this time I'm going to try to get paid for my, my head, you know, not my back, but I don't care what it is. And I would have signed, you know, you said you're going to work for Acme greeting card company for a hundred years and you'll never make your best year. It'll be $31,000.

I would have went, give me that contract. I'll sign it right now. I would have went, give me that contract. I'll sign it right now. I would have done anything. I would thank God it didn't exist. The devil didn't really exist. But so I was like, all right, you got eight years to figure it out. You don't know anything, but you could know something. So I, I just started going to the groundlings, you know, and, and they were like, okay, you're

funny. You're definitely funny. You don't know what you're doing, but you okay, you're funny. You're definitely funny. You don't know what you're doing, but you're funny. So you passed beginners. Go take an acting class. You learn how to act a little bit. And then come back, you can take intermediate. I said, okay.

And then another 300 bucks I didn't really have over to that, the acting place, you know, I didn't know how to act. I could barely read the sides, you know? So I was like, all right, I took my acting class and I come back and they're like, all right, we'll, we'll, we'll put you on the list for the intermediate class. And back then the groundlings take like a year, sometimes six months, a year in between classes, you know? And so, but they would offer you free classes at like the church or the Coronet theater, whatever the basement of the place with the thing that go, take Cynthia Seghetti's class on Sundays.

You know, we take it for free because we realized you have to sit around for a year and we, you know, we feel bad. So take Mindy Sterling's class for free at the whatever basement and the church on the highland you know and i would do it i would do you were never scared of the hard work you were like putting in the work no i'd be going to the cornet theater you know on a thursday night at eight o'clock at night just to i'm here who's mindy sterling's class yes Yeah, she's just going, what are we doing? We're going to do a Herald or whatever. I just do it, show up down at the

church basement the next Sunday to do improv. And so what, after doing all this, what was the first time you got a paid gig to do this kind of work? Well, I became a comedy traffic school teacher at some point. And I looked at that as sort of a paid show business gig because I was getting paid to teach traffic school and not do construction. And I was talking the whole time. And I was there as a comedian because they used to have comedy traffic school. So somewhere around four or five years after I started, I got my traffic school. I mean, you got paid 80 bucks a day. And so how long after this until the man show comes about with Jimmy Kimmel?

Like how many years into doing this kind of work till you get approached? And how did that even come about? I don't think i know that story i was coming up on my my 30th birthday which had always been my cut off line uh i had not had any success in the business you guys were young then i got paid or anything in the business um i was working as a boxing coach part-time in the mornings and still swinging a hammer in the, in the afternoon time. And it wasn't really working out, but let's put it to you that way. But I, I'd, I'd had a lot of training and I was all trained up. I just still wasn't able to convert that into any kind of paid gig. I was driving my truck up Laurel Canyon with an entertainment unit in it

to take it to a client who was very near. It's kind of interesting because I came up from my studio in Glendale. I came up Laurel to get here today. And the client was right in here, in the neighborhood here. And I was driving my truck and I was in the morning and I was listening to K-Rock Radio and Kevin and Bean were talking about uh a boxing match that they were gonna have as part of a morning stunt zoo thing and

jimmy the sports guy was gonna fight michael the maintenance man and uh and i was driving my truck going oh man i could get in on this you know and they and they said, um, you know, we're going to need equipment and trainers and a venue. Like, Hey, if you're listening out there and you're a trainer or you're, you're, you have a venue or whatever. And I was like, drive my trucks. Like, Oh man, I could teach one of them to box. And then maybe I could see the inside of the radio station or studio or something. I was always interested in radio. I work construction. I'd be on a job site all day. I'd always have the radio on, listen to the morning shows. Cause we start at 7.00 AM. I'll be in my truck at 6.15. I was listening to the morning, all four hours of

every morning show, you know? So anyway, I got to the house. I called, I asked the lady if I could use her phone, you know, i called the radio station they didn't call back and i left a message as i i eventually you know i'll cut to it but i went to the radio station after they wouldn't call me back and i went there before my early morning class which was i taught like a 6 30 class at bodies in motion Pasadena. And I went there like six in the morning. I couldn't get in the building, but the building was open for like seven working hours, like seven to five or something.

So I came back the next day. I got into the building. I found out where K-Rock was. I went up to the ninth floor. I came out. I saw the K-Rock suite, but the suite hours were nine to five. The suite doors were locked. No one was there, but I knew the morning show was in there somewhere, but I didn't

have a key card and I couldn't get in. And I was just standing by the elevator going, let's use a seven 15. The suite opens at nine. What if I go in the suite, if I go in the suite, the receptionist is going to be sitting there going, what do you want? I go, well, I'm the boxing trainer. I don't know if she's going to tell me to leave or she's going to go call somebody. Anyway, I stand out in the hall by the elevators. I see some guy get out of the elevator and he's walking around like the backside

for the entrance for the key card people because kevin and bean would get there you know five in the morning they didn't go through the front door of the suite they would go around the side e-card so i started following this guy and i don't know to this day whether he's dropping something off or he's loading the vending machine or something but he was clearly going in to k-rock you know and i was like walking and talking with him. And I was like, um, Hey, listen, if you're going in there, can you just tell him there's a boxing trainer out here? Just I'll be waiting by the elevator, but tell him there's a boxing guy out here wants to teach someone to box, you know? And he was like, yeah, all right. And he just went in, door shut, you know. And I just went and stood by the elevators.

And it was there for a while, like 20 minutes. I didn't know if he told anybody or he was just telling me to buzz off. I just stood there and I stood there. And then eventually a guy came out and he came down the hall. And he walked up to me and he said, are you the boxing coach? And I said, yeah. And he said,

all right, when do you want to start? And I said, today we start today. And he goes, all right, today noon. I go,

okay. I gave him the directions, the bodies and stuff. He went back, said, I got to go back in and work. Went back in. Uh, and then that person was Jimmy Kimmel. So that's how I met Jimmy. For those of you that have been listening or following along or watching for a while now,

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Do you think that there's any possible way in a 2024 world that the man show could exist the way you guys did it no i i i doubt it but you know we just had cindy crawford in here and we were watching the trampoline videos before we started like oh shit it's cindy crawford she was on the trampoline she was may have been in the pilot maybe i don't taylor where was that she was she was on the trampoline it was the pilot might have been the pilot but it was just i was like we were looking because i remembered the trampoline it was the pilot might have been the pilot but it was just i was like we were looking because i remembered the trampoline videos of course my young man we did a bit with her called like bathroom maintenance tips or something with city corporate as i recall she was like a handy woman or something in the bathroom yeah yeah and she kept saying ball cock valve which is a real thing you know know, I was a carpenter.

Um, yeah, I, I don't know. I mean, really the man show was Jimmy wanted to do a show with me and I wanted to do a show with Jimmy and people weren't really going to let us do a show that they cast us in. We would need to create the show. And so we, Jimmy and I both

kind of knew that we weren't traditional kind of mainstream. I didn't, I guess we both knew we weren't really going to work in the system and that people may not cast us in their show, but if we created our own show, then maybe we'd have a shot at working together. And the plan really was we want to work together. We want to work with the people we want to work with. We want to hire the people we think are funny and we want to do what we want to do. And you have to give a show a name and you have to give it a format.

But if you really just look at all the different bits, it's the format. It's, you know, people think, oh, it's girls and trampolines and beer and stuff. But it was more like Jimmy marries a monkey. Adam goes to the hardware store and like makes fun of people. Like it wasn't, people think it's sort of like beer and farting and dudes and trampolines and stuff. But most of the bits were just

sort of freestanding comedy bits. And it's just stuff we wanted to do. You are an outspoken person. And there had been a period of years. i think the pen i saw a clip you did where you talk about pendulum swinging and i think you were talking about like 80s hair bands or music and how it like went from rock to disco and then it went from like hair bands to grunge and how we like kind of go back and forth how have you thought about or navigated the world of political correctness over these last few years because obviously you're known as somebody who speaks their mind. You know, I, I, you know, I always kind of tell people I have a skill,

which is I'm, I am a carpenter. And, and if I can't say what I want to say, I may as well just put the bags back on and go back to the job site, you know, cause I didn't get into this to sort of govern myself or worry about whose feathers were going to get ruffled. You know, I just, I just said kind of a basic rule. Like if I thought it was funny, I was just going to say it. And people would sort of be like, well, yeah, it's funny, but you can't say that, you know? And I'd go, but if it is funny, I think I have to say it now. You know, I thought of it. I thought it was funny. It made me laugh. Um, I'm also not burdened by being a bad person. And I feel like there's a fair amount of people that aren't great people. And I'm not saying I'm a great person.

I'm what I'm saying is, is I've never done anything to anybody that would be considered bad or cruel or evil or any, any of the, when, you know, meaning I can make jokes about women because I've never put my hands on a woman and I've never,

there's believe me, if there was some me too thing to find on me. You would have known about it by now. I've literally done spotless record with women spot, you know, I've never all the groups, whatever, who I've made fun of ethnicities, whatever they call me, racist, misogynist, homophobic. It's like, I've never harmed another group. Uh, uh, women uh women i you know my daughter lives

a much better life than i do like there is so there's a segment of people these days that say the words are harmful right yeah but see for me i if i had some sort of skeletons in my past that i was worried about or even if I was like, you know, I don't like, maybe I don't like gay people very much, or I don't like black people or whatever. I would kind of zip it. I'd be like, Oh, you don't want to be talking about this stuff because they make beyond you. So I'm completely unburdened because I'm really have never done any group wrong. And there's no history of it. And it's nothing is documented. I've never done anything to anyone. So I, that kind of frees you

up a little bit. You know, I'm always kind of feeling like, well, if you're Ellen, you got to dance at the beginning of the show. Cause you got to get people to think you're different than what you are. You know what I mean? I'm not that nice because I don't care because I'm not trying to hide. You know, think about the two. Go back and watch Bill Cosby in the beginning of his show doing the dance. It was like an overcompensation. I'm trying to work this joke out where I go, if you watch the beginning of the Cosby show,

he's not just dancing. He's doing like crazy, silly stuff. I said, if somebody said, we got a camera, no microphone, you got five seconds to prove to everyone you're not a rapist, you would immediately start dancing just like Bill Cosby. You would do that move. Like you wouldn't go, what do you want from me? Or whatever, you'd go go, what do you want from me? Or you or whatever.

You'd go, ooh, silly dance. Because that's exactly what that dance is. What do you think about all this shit that's come out about all these people in Hollywood? Is this stuff that people know behind the scenes? Or is this stuff where you were shocked? Or is it a bit of both? People will kind of tell you that who's like, I would have agents and William Morris guys and they go, you know, Oh, Bill Cosby is a douchebag.

That guy's such a douche or whatever. Or people that used to work for Ellen, you know, I'd go like, what was it like working for Ellen? I signed an NDAa but you know what i mean like stuff like that and you just go all right i i kind of get it as far as like the harvey weinstein stuff and all that i'm i've never been on the inside of of hollywood i've always been i i didn't go to the parties and i didn't rub elbows with the people. I knew some celebrities that were like genuinely friendly people. And maybe we, my girlfriend said to me last night, we were watching, uh, uh, I think it was a Paul Feig movie. And, uh, she goes, and Paul's a nice guy and I know him and a little bit. And she goes, you got to start schmoozing. And I'm like, why? And she goes,

you should be in these movies or whatever. And I was like, I, I don't really, I'm you gotta start schmoozing and i'm like why she goes you should be in these you know movies or whatever and i was like i i don't really i'm just not a schmoozer uh i don't i don't know how to do it they're guys i know like jay leno but it's mostly car related stuff you know and then it's like a little bit but i really don't know what's going on in hollywood i i never did i always just worked and then went straight home and started monkeying with some car-related thing. Do you find that strange? And like, not to bring Jimmy up too much, but you guys kind of went two different paths.

He went so Hollywood. You kind of went the other way. Was that something apparent to you in the relationship? Like that he kind of wanted to pursue that career and you wanted to pursue your career?immy was always and i mean i don't want to say going hollywood like it's a pejorative right but but you know i mean like he went he right into entertainment he he's always been very ambitious and very much uh of a churner and a generator. And he's always a kind of what's next and kind of bigger and better.

And I've always been like, I kind of want to do what I want to do version, you know, and sort of the thing is sort of like, I always like doing radio. So I stayed in radio for a long time. I was doing multiple TV shows and getting paid enough to not do radio, but I wanted to do radio. I liked radio. I, my sort of idea of a, of a nice job is just sitting in a windowless room, just bloviating into a microphone about everything all day at not cameras and makeup and hair. And, you know, you know, like, like when you do a TV show, you have to go out with the stylist and go shopping, you know?

And it's like, well, they go, we're going to Barney's in New York. We're going to be, and I'd just be like, oh God, be like oh god no no dear no we're not going to try stuff on do what kim kardashian did and just get a body double that's your exact body to go try it on i'm going to do her body double yeah and i'm going to use it for different stuff but yeah I get what you're saying, sweetheart. See, I can make this kind of joke. Yeah. I just, I never really liked being on camera. I didn't like teleprompters. I didn't like cue cards. I, I was just, I don't, I don't know what to call me, but I've, I'm kind of, I liked the blue collar world. I wanted to build houses, but i want to build my own houses i want to race my cars i wanted to fix my cars like i really wanted a world away from not saying that these people are controlled but in a way like there's parameters of what you can do or not do on a show like that

like you can't just go off and shoot from the hip whenever you want on those kind of platforms no you have bosses and corporations and sponsors and and you know, Procter & Gamble and Disney and, you know. That's why we love this thing so much. Like, you know, we talk about it. People are like, oh, would you ever do like anything television around? Like, why? Like, you kind of control your own destiny here. I relate to you on that.

Yeah, I don't want to be fed a script or read someone else's words. I want to say what I want to say when I want to say it how I want to say it. Yeah, and so does everybody really, but how do you make $17 million a year saying what you want to say when you want to say it to whoever you want to say it to? I mean, those are the, that's, that's the rub, right? And so I think a lot of people go, look, I'd like to say whatever I want to say, whatever I would say it. But I also like to get paid. And, you know, Pizza Hut ain't going to pay if I'm saying what I want to say all the time. They're not going to have me as a spokesperson anymore. kind of figure out a way to go, well, how do I navigate this space where I say whatever I want

to say, but I also got a mortgage and a pretty big nut, you know? So it's no different than if you worked for any corporation, you know, people go, I don't want to work for these guys. I want to do my own thing. It's like, well, you do, but you also have medical and dental and a 401k and a guaranteed paycheck. You want to just go hang your own shingle. That's, that's fine, but this is not going with you, you know? So there's a kind of, you know, bet on yourself kind of thing for me. I guess for me, it was always all gravy for me, you know, from, from where I come from, from what I, my expectations were or what I thought I would be doing the idea that I can do what I'm doing and get paid and have what I've had and, and live how I live. It's all gravy. And, and I think sometimes people go,

well, don't you want this? You know, wouldn't you like a big TV show or more money or something? And the answer is like, yeah, I would, but I'm already way ahead of, of where I thought I would be. I have a freedom to make docs and write books and, and tour and do standup and race cars on occasion and stuff. And it's like, yeah, and just do what I, what I i want i think people create prisons for themselves chasing those greater dreams in him and i mean listen it's okay to be ambitious but i think sometimes you do it to the point of you put yourself in this in the in this trap that you can't escape right i think a lot of people if they make those decisions and they chase the money and they chase that kind of that kind of life you may have more more and more but it's at the expense

of your autonomy and your freedom to say what you want to say when you want to say it. Yeah. I was back in my garage off an alley off of Laurel Canyon working on my car at night a million years ago, like in the 80s. And I was listening to the radio and I think it was Rockline was the name of the radio show. But anyway, he was interviewing the lead guy from the band boston and they were they were talking about the song peace of mind which um if you heard it you go all i want is peace of mind you'll know the songs big boston hit and and the guy said yeah i worked it i think he worked at ibm and he had a good corporate job and everything else.

And he said, but he wanted to rock. He just wanted to start a band. And, and you look at the lyrics to the song, peace of mind. And it's like, you're, you're, you're, you're climbing the company ladder and hope it doesn't take too long. And then he goes, can you see they'll come a day where it won't matter come a day when you'll be gone. And I was like, I was like 21 in my garage going, yeah, I got to do what I want to do. can you see they'll come a day where it won't matter come a day when you'll be gone and i was

like i was like 21 in my garage going yeah i got to do what i want to do like while i'm here it worked out for boston worked out for me it doesn't work for everybody but it's it's it was very interesting and i was listening to it as like a young person working on a dots and sad things a lot of people come to that realization too late yeah and also a lot of people aren't that good and if you're not that good does that mean well i you know i had a i had a discussion with um greg gutfeld about this i i interviewed him um for my podcast but i was sort of talking to him about people that just sort of go yeah i'm leaving i'm gonna go do my own thing you know what i mean i'm going over to substack i'll get paid over there you know or i'm just gonna i'm tucker carlson you know i'm just i'm just leaving fox and I'll just go, uh, I'll go somewhere else. I'll do something else, you know? And, and a lot of

people, like, I know, you know, I, I sort of did that where I just went like, I'm not going to work for these guys. I'm just going to do my own thing. I got offered a, a, you know, decent, pretty big radio contract about a year after I started my podcast. I was like it was like money and contract and guarantees and syndication and stuff and I was like now I'm just gonna do my own thing you know but what I was basically saying is is I said we're kind of talking about it so gut fell and I was like who are these people that leave and just go I'm doing my own thing and I was like, who are these people that leave and just go, I'm doing my own thing. And I was like, well, there are people who are good. The people who are in the middle kind of know who they are and they can't leave, you know, like everybody who's just sitting at a, in a

cubicle, the New York times, they may have thoughts that differ on COVID or Black Lives Matter or Kamala Harris or whatever it is, but they shut the fuck up because they need a job and they're not going to go start their own newspaper. You know, they're kind of in the middle. And also I was talking to the aforementioned Tucker Carlson about this and he said, yeah, when I was 31 and I had two kids under five, I wasn't going anywhere either because what are we going to do? I need to provide. I need a job. I'm freshly start a family. I'm young. You know what I mean?

So the people that leave are the people that are good, but there's only so many people that are good. Most people are in the middle or in the lower end and they're happy they're working. They got a job you know so you can only do this if you're actually good at what you do otherwise you're just leaving your job you know if you're a crappy chef you can't tell your manager at the restaurant to blow you. I'm going to go start

another business. I'm starting my own restaurant. Not if you can't cook, if you can't cook, stay there and do what that guy tells you to do. And that's the entire, the majority of the country are, are them, you know, there's only X amount of, you know, Jay Leno's or Joe Rogan's or Tucker Carlson's or whoever's on sub stack crushing it or just went, screw this. I'm going to go do my own thing. Or, you know, I'll self publish. I don't need a publisher. Yeah. It's, it's, it's rare. Well, it's also a lot of those people don't realize the infrastructure that's afforded to them when you have an, or like if you, I'll just pick on the New York times, you brought it up. Like that's a massive organization that provides a ton of visibility for the work you're

doing. And all of a sudden it's like, you're the one that has to get all that visibility on your own, on your own platform. You can get lost in obscurity. Yeah. You've always been outspoken about politics or have you? I've always just said what I've wanted to say about most anything. Things took a turn for the political. I feel like during COVID. During COVID especially, I was always not really wanting to convert everything into a political thought. Um, my thought was, I have two kids, uh, who are twins who are 13 or 14 during COVID and they just locked their school for a year and a half. And I don't want that for them. So then I am going to think about this and think about how it affects kids.

And then I'm going to suggest that they open the schools and then people are going to call me mega extremist or racist or elitist or something. And then I'm going to go, I'm just a guy who wants the schools open. You can label me whatever you want, but I'd like the schools open. And I don't think it's a good idea to shut the beaches either or the horse trail by my house. So I'm going to say something about that. And you can say that's a political statement,

but I don't really feel like it's a political statement. I just feel like it's a truthful and B has to do with wanting schools open and a playgrounds open, because I think it's better for kids. And I think it's going to damage kids if they have to stay home and they don't get vitamin D and everything else. And so in the past, you would probably say something like that, and it would not be political. it would just be this person a long time ago this person you know once marijuana legalized another person doesn't want it or gay marriage or whatever but it wasn't you weren't called a political person it was just a subject

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But here's the problem. It's like you can't have an idea anymore without it being correlated with a side. It's wild. If I say, hey, I don't think the government spends our money responsibly, and I think that they shouldn't be allowed to spend it the way they do without some kind of oversight committee or out some kind of repercussion. If you end up spending it wrong, people are going to say MAGA, but it's like,

no, I just think like I run, I'm an entrepreneur. I run a business. If I went to my shareholders and I said, Hey guys, I'm going to run this company and we're going to lose millions of dollars every year. And if we do, I need you to run this company and we're going to lose millions of dollars every year. And if we do, I need you to bail me out every time by money that you find from somewhere else. It'd be like, well, that's not a good idea. I think that's what, that's what it is. It's not a political thing. Right.

Or if I say, Hey, um, you know, I, I'm, I'm somebody that is health conscious. I don't think it's a good idea for me to lock myself indoors and not exercise to hide from a virus that, you know, may not kill me like that. Like it's not political. It's just, it's just an idea. And I think the problem is, is that these political parties and a lot of media pundits have made these issues political to kind of put pit each other or put people against each other. And they've taken ideas now and they've made them about sides. And that's, that's a a that's a dangerous thing because nobody can now nobody can now debate good or bad ideas i you know i think conveniently perhaps but the right has a little more tolerance for diversity of opinion. And that when I was interviewing Tucker Carlson,

I don't know, two years ago or a year and a half ago, I was kind of like, what do you want to do? You got to start a network or whatever it was. And he said, well, you can't really get conservatives altogether because they disagree on so much stuff because half of them

are pro-vax the other half are anti-vax some are on abortion they're all over the place some are just against and the abortion you know morning after pill others want it you know up to the first trimester or something whatever it is is, he just goes, they're always arguing and they're not, they do not agree with all the same stuff. They, half of them don't, half of them hate Trump. You know what I mean? He said the Democrats are all locked off on the same thing. It's like someone gave him the memo on ivermectin and they all stopped asking questions.

You know, they got the memo for hydroxychloroquine and they all got coached up and they're all on the same page there's nobody at cnn like raised their hand and went uh listen uh hydroxychloroquine's been around for 70 years and it's the only drug you can take while you're pregnant you think this is going to kill people i don't see any evidence i nobody like went i don't know what this. I don't know. Why don't you just let the doctor prescribe it? If he thinks it's good for his patient, why are we, how do we know if it's good or bad? Leave the doctor alone. Anyway, it's inert. Nobody said a word. They're all became experts on hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Now on the right, they'd be arguing about stuff constantly. I would argue that they're intellectually a little more honest, like they don't believe there's in this or they do believe in that they're arguing about stuff all the time. on one thing, just anything. And the border could be taxes,

could be fracking. You know, like you can't say to the left, look, I'm with you on abortion. I'm with you on decriminalization of this and that. I want reform of the prison system and the industrial military complex. Well, we got to drill. I mean, we need oil. Come on, give me a break.

These windmills aren't going to cut it. They'd be like, you're out, fucker. You're out on the one thing. You're out the right. You can disagree on three out of the 10 things, maybe four out of 10 things before they throw you out the left. It's just one thing that'll get you like you, you go. I agree on every single thing you guys say on the left.

One thousand percent, except for gay marriage. I don't think gay should be able to get married. They go, you out. That would be out immediately. So they and that's why when you watch CNN, they're all on the same page. Everyone's got to agree on the other side. Everybody's fighting all the time and can't agree. And because of that, they can agree. On the other side, everybody's fighting all the time and can't agree.

And because of that... They can agree they hate each other. Yeah. But, I mean, think about it. There's a ton, and there certainly used to be even more, there's a ton of right-leaning Republicans that are never Trumpers. Who on the left is a never Kamala or never Biden or never Obama. There are any never Obamas on the left. Well, no, maybe, but I think like guys, like it's, it's, it's interesting to watch guys like Bill Maher for me at this stage. And I think like, he's, he's done

a great job for a long time and obviously he's like been left leaning forever. But I think it's interesting for me to watch him now. Cause I think a guy like him is surprised how far left it's moved from him. Right. Like for me, like I, I would say I'm probably more, I'm socially liberal for sure. And more of like fiscally conservative.

I think that's like very common, especially in our generation. But like, to me, the left was always the one that was for, you know, freedom of speech and say, would you want,

they were anti-war. Right. And they were equal and all these things. And I, like, to me, the left was always the one that was for, you know, freedom of speech and say what you want. They were anti-war, right? And they were equal and all these things. And I, like, I think that's, that's changed in a lot of ways, right? Yeah. Like I don't, listen, conservatives, we have, you know, we've had Chelsea Clinton on this show. We've had Tommy Loren. We've had like as far left and right as you can go on both sides.

And typically when that happens and you're on the show now, both bases yell at us depending on which side is on the show. Um, and I always find that interesting because to your point, like, I think like you either have to be one or the other these days. And if you're not, if you're not one of the other people are just unwilling to hear a different perspective yeah i had this metaphor that i would say which is unfortunately where we're at politically but just in life it's like you either have to be on the beach where it's dry and safe or you got to be out beyond the breakers where it's calm but if you're in the middle, you get pummeled. Yeah. And, and that's kind of what it is.

And anybody who's trying to be nuanced and kind of hang around the middle a little bit, it's not a good business model. You should either go work for the New York times and Huffington post, or you should. I tell Lauren all the time, if we just went super left or super right, we would be in a much greater position, but I just, I'm not, I'm unwilling to do water. I tell Lauren all the time, if we just went super left or super right, we would be in a much greater position. But I'm unwilling to do that because I don't want, I know sometimes people say, hey, you're fencing your own,

but I was like, well, there is maybe some nuance to some of these ideas. You can't just be one or the other. I mean, I just have a really hard time, similar to you, with people putting me in a box of their choosing. I don't like the idea that my thoughts are predetermined for me based on a political affiliation. And I think that the, that people that are so willing to accept that so easily, I feel sorry for those

people because it's like, do you even have an original thought in your head or you're just rattling what you heard someone else say? Yeah. I feel that way too about like, who are these people and sort of what happened to them? Well, people don't like to be ostracized. Yeah, I, listen, nobody likes to be ostracized. I agree. You know, my whole thing is, is I'll take all the ostracization you can dish out or society can hand out to me if I'm right about something. You know, I, I, I tell the story. I was in Maui with a whole group of friends, uh, you know, vacation, bring the kids kind of thing.

And, uh, there was like 10 of us sitting around the table, uh, at brunch. And, um, I don't know why some guy was, had a leaf blower or something and, and it was driving everyone nuts as it does. And so they said like, oh, they should make those things illegal, you know? And I said, well, they're illegal in LA. And everyone sort of looked at me and went, well, this guy's blowing leaves all over my street all day, every day. What do you mean they're illegal? I go, they've been illegal for 20 years, you know, like since, I don't know, 99 or whenever this was.

This was, you know, five years ago. But they've been illegal for 15 or 20 years at this point. And they went, what do you mean they're illegal? Everyone's used them all day, every day. I said, well, they don't enforce the law. And they go, well, why don't they enforce the law? I said, well, because the only one using leaf blowers are Hispanics and they're poor and they don't like the optics of coming down on the poor Brown man. So they leave it alone. And they're like, what? Get out of here. And I go, no, that's, that's the story. And then they go, well, what about,

you know, blah, blah, blah. I go, listen, they made it illegal. There did like a million brown man,

Hispanic gardener March on the LA city council. And they basically got all those pussies to cave, even though it's bad for you and it's loud and it's blowing stuff in everyone's lungs and everything. They don't do, they don't enforce any of these laws because they don't like the idea the la city council does not want to like the optics of busting poor brown people who are working you know and everyone's like they started the table

started ganging up on me you know and i was like listen idiots i know this fuck off you know and they're like that's racist what you're saying and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I'm just telling you what is. That's what I know. That's what is. And everyone's like, everyone's turning on me. It ruined the brunch. Everyone's getting angry.

And I was like, this is what happened. I'm sorry if it makes you uncomfortable or you don't like it. That's the story. Now, you idiots don't know the story. I know the story because I read the article in 2000 or 1999. And I don't, I know you don't like what I'm saying, but that doesn't mean it's not true. And if you want me to shut up, I'll shut up when I'm wrong, but I'm not going to shut up about stuff I'm right about. And just because it's ruining this brunch doesn't mean I'm incorrect. Hold on, hold on. I have to ask about this brunch. What does your girlfriend say when this is going on? Is she kicking you and pinching you under the table? It's an interesting, this is not my girlfriend. This

is my ex-wife at the time. The answer is, it's just like COVID. Everyone caves and goes along with the narrative immediately and distance themselves from you because they don't, you're the one who's getting yelled at for not wearing the mask. And they want to be in the crowd that yells at you, not on your side of the aisle, getting yelled at. So that the crowd who are sort of dumb and cowardly immediately distance themselves from you. And then I had to do battle with a table of, you know, eight or nine progressive people who thought whatever I was saying was racist or they didn't like what I was saying.

But I was like, that's the story. Of course, I went and found the article from the LA times and sent it to all these assholes just to ruin their vacation even more. But I was like, it's exactly what happened. LA has had a ban on leaf blowers.

First off, why wouldn't LA have a ban on leaf blowers? They have a ban on everything. Or you think they didn't get the leaf blowers? Leaf blowers are loud. They pollute as much as a full-size Chevy truck does in like 10 minutes as a truck does in a year. They're horrible. They run off a two-stroke oil.

You know, it's horrible for the environment. It's horrible for your lungs. It's horrible for your ears. It's horrible for everything. It's illegal. It's been illegal. It's been 20 years. I think leaf blowers are the most annoying things I've ever seen.

I agree. And I'm in Austin trying to cold plunge, and there's leaf blowers all around me. I think I need to rid the leaf blowers in Austin. I didn't know that was strange. So we had our first child in 2020 and we lived here and we grew up. We grew up in San Diego, actually. But we were here since like 2014 and we moved to Texas in 2020. But I was we having to go back and forth.

It was like living in two different worlds. Yeah. No, I'm not kidding. And I'm not trying to be extreme about it. It was like you would come here and the energy was off and people were so angry and the office was down and out and like people were scared and fearful and it almost felt like there was rain everywhere and then i go there and i'm like hey but the thing that was so strange to me was like not to make this political it was just to observe the difference

of two different environments and their response to that time and like i'm not gonna lie like texas was way fucking better than california at that period like there's no there's there was no comparison and there's maybe comparisons now but i just i remember i'm like this is what fear does to people and this is what you know a lack of fear does. It was just a, it was two different worlds. And you could argue now that the response of every place didn't make a fucking difference. Right. Right. Like now we have, now we have the data. Um, but it was, it was a, it was just strange to observe at the time. It's weird wanting to be ruled badly. You know, I don't get why are we intoxicated by dumb people telling us what

to do? I mean, I know there's some illusion of safety, but I never had that. It seems very counterintuitive to me. Agreed. Totally agree. You do the cold plunge thing too. You do? Yeah. You like it?

You do the cold plunge. Yeah, I've been Yeah. You like it? You do the cold plunge? Yeah. I've been doing it for, my God, like 10 years now, probably. Really? Yeah. Oh, so you're an OG. Yeah. I started my swimming pool just during the winter months, you know, and then I got the

tub at some point, but I'm actually living in a condo now and I don't have the tub. I just do the cold shower in the morning, which is not as good as the plunge, but the pool up in the foothills of La Cunada would get, that would get pretty frosty. That's amazing that you've been doing it for 10 years. That's like very OG. I have one more question before we get off the pandemic topic, because I just thought of this. How did you get Gavin Newsom to to debate you that seems like a odd move for both uh gavin newsom just came in to uh you know do an interview this is about 10 years ago and we were just talking and i was telling him about all the stuff i wanted to fix

you know in california yeah it was 10 years. Now we had a re-encounter recently. Well, that's what I'm talking about. The re-encounter. I saw you kind of beating him up about the COVID response. Oh, well, that was pretty funny. That was unbeknownst to him and to me. That's what I'm saying. I'm wondering how that even came about in the first place. You'd think his people would be like, that's not a good idea. And you'd think your people would be like, I don't know about that. No, my people, well, I don't have people, but if I had people, they'd be like, oh yeah, go get him. I would have been ready with something better

than I had for him. But I was, was it Chris Cuomo's whatever news thing with something. And I was, I got like really bits and pieces of information the whole night. Like they're like, you're going to be up there with Chris and Stephen A. Smith. You're going to be talking about the debate. I was like, you're going to be up there with Chris and Stephen A. Smith.

You're going to be talking about the debate. I was like, all right. You know, that's like all I got. And then later on, it's like, it's going to be this panel and that panel. And we're just sitting there during the commercial and, uh, it was kind of casual. And then, and then Chris said, um, we're going to come back. We'll come back from commercial and, you know, a minute. And, uh, we're going to check in with you, you, you and Stephen a, and then, uh, we're

going to bring in Gavin Newsome from California. He's on the zoom. And then I was like, Gavin Newsome. I've been making fun of that guy for a long time now, you know? And so I was like, Gavin, I was like, Oh, how's this going to work? Like, I'm going to sit here while he's interviewing Gavin Newsome. And then Chris goes, um, so I'll talk to Gavin Newsome. I'll bring him on and then I'll ask him a couple of questions.

And Steven, you asked him a question. I am asked a question after Steven. I was like, Oh my God, I got Gavin Newsome. And I was like, I have no, I'm not going to ask him about the debate. Cause who cares? We haven't even had, it was before the debate night, but before that, he would have given some pablum about Democrats, something. And I was just like sitting there like, oh my God, what do I, and I was like, I had about a minute to come up with, what are you going to say to Gavin Newsom?

And I just went, why did you shut the beaches? That was so funny. I just knew he'd go like, and'd you shut the beaches? That was so funny. You just knew he'd go back. And if you watch that, it's pretty funny. Like at a certain point, I go, why'd you shut the beaches? And then he goes, uh, we didn't have data. We didn't know anything. I thought, well, if you didn't know anything, why'd you do it? Which is always my question. Cause everyone's like, we didn't know anything. I was like, then shut up and don't do anything. If you don't know anything, idiots, your excuses, I don't know anything. You who govern, you know, nothing, but you're going to do stuff based on knowing nothing. So I kept, I kept hitting him a little bit. And then I told him, you know, he arrested a paddleboarder

and then I asked him the science behind closing outdoor dining. And at some point, if you watch it, he goes, okay, Adam, like he got the, yeah, Adam, it's you like this guy. Yeah. I, I, I think the guy's dangerous and irresponsible and a sociopath. And other than that, you know, I'm a big fan, but there's something wrong. There's something wrong with Gavin Newsom. I've, I've sat in a room with him for over an hour and interviewed him and he cannot

answer a question. There was something wrong with him but what do you mean like wrong like in what sense i you can find this stuff on the internet i think it was carish swisher asked him about four or five years ago she goes everyone's leaving california well what what about what are you going to do like what what about it and he goes and he goes uh she said are you worried about everyone leaving Like, what, what about it? And he goes, uh, she said, are you worried about everyone leaving California? And he goes, Hey, uh, where else are you going to go? And she goes, well, anywhere, Texas, uh, Nevada, you know, Nashville. And he goes, oh yeah, that's not my

saying. That was a Jerry Brown saying I go, okay. So you quoted someone saying, and then you used it. And then when the person goes, well, what's that mean? You go, that's not my saying that's somebody else. So that's weird. Sociopathic answer. Number one. And then she pressed him on it a little, like she was like, well, people are leaving. And, and he goes, where else are you going to go? And she goes, I think people are going other places and doing fine. Like that's what they're doing. And she, he goes, I know a couple, uh, you know, wealthy couple doing well for themselves. And, uh, they moved out and moved out of California and then moved to Salt Lake city.

And, uh, they're doing pretty good. So what's the next question? And he's like, literally just gave an example of somebody. How do you keep, how do you retain people in the state? No, he didn't answer. I mean, I asked him about, we got into it on predatory check cashing places or why black and brown people didn't have access to checking accounts or something.

He went in a circle for like 40 minutes. I said to him, what are we going to do with traffic in LA? Traffic is horrible. It hurts everyone. It's just as bad. Are we, can we fix it? Can we get a traffic czar?

Can we figure this out? And he goes, I'll tell you what I saw a bumper sticker. I kind of liked, I said, yeah, I said, you're not in traffic.

You are traffic. And I kind of liked that. I was like, what kind of answer i said yeah i said you're not in traffic you are traffic and i kind of like that i was like what kind of answer is this like a media trained like weird tactic to throw you off that doesn't make any sense there was a time when politicians local state you know federal they they got up and they shared and they debated ideas and they talked about how they were going to solve problems. I think like a lot of strategies from both parties now is just like dodge and evade and not really say anything and just kind of carry on. Yeah. He's going to get elected anyway. So his like buzz off. Yeah. But I heard like, what is this? Like 76% that I've just could be completely wrong. I'm just going to preface that. I don't want to

put some facts checking me, but I heard 76% or a huge portion of our tax dollars went just to service the interest on our debt. If you were just an average consumer and I said, every time you spend $100 on your credit card, 76 of those dollars have to go to interest, not even to anything that you bought or put to the principal. How do you ever get out of debt or drive something efficiently i'm starting to wonder if people are just sort of floating in some nether ether world now or like let's just print more money i mean dissociation yeah they're just like i got my phone i got my porn i got my edibles like i don't even know anymore i I got Postmates and Uber and they'll just keep printing money.

What do you tell your kids? What do you, about the world they're growing up in? I mean, I've told my son who is a little more like me and my daughter who's a little less and would like to be accepted, you know, by society at large. I said, you know, my son kind of likes the revelveille stuff and the speak your mind stuff and all that stuff. And I said, you know, that's all well and good, but you better get good at

something because what I kind of figured out, like with the trades, especially if you're really like, if you're really good engine builder, for instance, like, like there's only a handful of guys who can build some of these race engines that i'm dealing with and on all the guys are dealing with they're old they're exotic they're they're hard it's you cannot go to pet boys or there'll always be a market for that yeah like the guy's slow and he's douchey and he you know he's like these places like you go when, when's the engine going to be ready? And they'll go six months and you'll call them in six months and, and you'll go, is the engine

ready? And they go now six more months. And they'll like hang up the phone because what are you going to do? What are you going to do? There's only four guys on the planet that can really build those race engines, you know? Uh, same way if you're a really good fabricator or you're really good welder or really good carpenter or really good comedian, but you gotta be good. So speak your mind all you want, but keep in mind, you gotta be good and they can't cancel you when you're good. What a great message to leave our audience with. What are you working on? Where can we find you? How can we support what you're doing, your books, all the things? You can go to adamcrowlett.com and there should be dates there for standup shows. And you can listen to the podcast for free. And I'm just

on Substack now doing a little bit of work over there. And I think the books and the docs and all that stuff are just sort of go to Amazon and I don't know, type my name in. What's the first book we should start with if we haven't started with any? I would start with In 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks. Okay. And then you can go to Not Taco Bell Material. Then I think President. Just go in order of appearance.

And will you be in Austin anytime soon for stand-up? Yeah, I am going to be in Austin doing some corporate thing coming up, but I don't know where. I don't know. I think I'm going to Nashville and doing stand-up after that. If you ever do it in Austin, let us know. Adam Corolla, thank you for coming on the show. That was amazing. Thanks for having me.