The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Bill Maher - Why You Should Question Everything, Left Vs. Right, Your Healthcare, & Being Free To Speak Your Mind

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

#767: Join us as we sit down with Bill Maher – an American comedian, writer, producer, political commentator, actor, tv host, & host of the Club Random podcast. Known for his sharp political satire and unapologetic sociopolitical commentary, Bill doesn't shy away from sharing his unfiltered views. In this episode, Bill opens up about his personal beliefs discussing topics like health advocacy, concerns about America's food industry, his thoughts on marriage, and an insider's take on Hollywood's sex scandals! This is part one of a two part conversation. The entire conversation was filmed as one long episode in Bill's Club Random studio. For the second part of this conversation check out Bill's Podcast, Club Random. The rest of the conversation picks up there! To connect with Bill Maher click HERE   To listen to the second part of this conversations click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile Go to mintmobile.com/skinny to get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month. This episode is sponsored by Caraway Visit Carawayhome.com/himandher to see all of our favorite products AND use code himandher at checkout to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.  This episode is sponsored by Philadelphia Cream Cheese Visit creamcheese.com.   This episode is sponsored by Kora Organics Visit koraorganics.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 20% off your first purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Land Rover Evoque   Explore the Range Rover Evoque at LandRoverUSA.com This episode is sponsored by Cymbiotika Go to cymbiotika.com/theskinny and use code SKINNY on your subscription order to save 15% off your order.   Produced by Dear Media  

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I think a lot of people get married because it's the thing to do. Him and Her. I think a lot of people get married because it's the thing to do. It certainly was in my head for way too long that you find the one, you know, like it's an Easter egg hunt, and you find the egg, and then that's, everything's perfect. And that's certainly not the way I've ever seen life work. And also, I don't think people would understand it. It's not orthodox, but it sure works for me. But that's it. You have to find, like medicine, you got to find what works for you.

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. Today, we have Bill Maher on the podcast. Long time wanting to talk to Bill Maher. Many of you may be familiar with him. He's an actor. He's a comedian. He's a writer. He's a producer. He's the host of Real Time to Bill Maher. Many of you may be familiar with him. He's an actor. He's a comedian. He's a writer. He's a producer. He's the host of Real Time with Bill Maher. He also has a podcast called Club Random, which I'm going to talk about in a second. He's a political

commentator. He's done a lot for a very long time. What we love most about Bill is he is absolutely outspoken. He says it how he sees it and how he feels. He is willing to talk to anyone from any walk of life. And he's just an all around nice guy. We had the pleasure of being hosted in Bill's studio where he films his podcast Club Random. And that's where this episode took place. Anyways, many of you are familiar with Bill. He needs no real introduction. He has been doing this for a long time. I figured I would get on this podcast and give a bit of a different introduction for us because one, we may have some new listeners that are unfamiliar with Lauren and I. My name's Michael. Usually I'm

with my co-host Lauren. She'll be on the episode in a second. But this was a different kind of episode for Lauren and I, namely because we filmed this with Bill in his studio where he films Club Random. He was nice enough, like I said earlier, to host us in his studio where he films Club Random. He was nice enough, like I said earlier, to host us at his house where he films his podcast. And it's a bit of a different format for Lauren and I. We're there, Bill's smoking, drinking, we're drinking a little bit, having a good time. Normally we're in a studio, we're a little bit more formatted. It's a little bit more kind of questions and topics. And what's different about this podcast is, and this is for our listeners that have been listening a long time, we were in Bill's studio and we kind of adopted the format that he does on his podcast Club Random, where, again, you're just kind of shooting the shit. You're bouncing from topic to topic. It's laid back. You're in a couch setting. Really, it's kind of just like a conversation in a living room with drinks. Lauren and I had a couple

tequila drinks. You know, you're really just kind of shooting the shit. So for those of you that are listening to this show or familiar with this show, and you're used to kind of the back and forth that Lauren and I have typically with the guests that come into our studios, this may feel a little bit different for you. So I wanted to give you that context. The other context I want to give you is that this is really one long, almost two and a half hours, I think we filmed. But part one, I guess, of the full episode is here on our channel, which you're listening to or watching right now. And part two would be on Bill's channel, The Club Random podcast. So essentially, we just sat down for two and a half hours and then cut it right in the middle and kept riffing. And so for those

that are listening to this episode, and then wondering if that's the end of the conversation, it's not. For the second part, you have to go to Bill's podcast, Club Random. I hate to make people jump through hoops, but he's got a great show anyway. And I'm sure there's other episodes on there that you'll find entertaining. So for part two of this episode, in the full context of the full conversation with us and Bill Maher, you have to jump over to his podcast on his channel after this episode. We're releasing on the same day, so you can find everything there. With that, Bill Maher, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. What are you drinking? What's your drink of choice? They said you have a concoction. Concoction? Yeah. Boy, that does sound P. Diddy-ish.

No, I'm not going to concoct anybody. No, look, first of all, I barely drink. I saved my drink for this day. You know, I certainly drank in my younger years more. Never a drunk, but shall we say like an Irishman. But, you know, as you get older, you have to, like, know when to throttle back. Or else, you know, you look like Ted Kennedy at the end. Why did you save your drink for today? Because I like doing this. Because I like to drink and smoke pot at the same time. Okay. And like I say, you know, you're on a short

leash. I'm 68. You're on a short leash as far as like what you can do. I live basically the same life I always did, but that's because I really take care of myself. And part of that is you just cannot drink at this age and be who you want to be do who you want to be and look how you want to look as best you can if i even smell alcohol these days i'm hung over for a week i don't know what happened maybe i think he feels at 68. no but i think i don't know i'm just gonna you know have a couple a couple a week i used to have a couple before i left the house what's what's the wellness routine if you wake up hungover? Never wake hungover.

I'm telling you, I have like two drinks a week. I'm not, probably tonight. You don't get hungover if you only have that much. We did hear you're really into health and wellness. What's the main thing that you're doing right now? I do, well, again, limiting this. Okay. It's, you know, health is a lot about a lot of things.

First of all, I would say, number one for me is knowledge. Make it your hobby to know about it. Don't trust doctors. There's a reason why they always say, get a second opinion. Because anything a doctor tells you is an opinion. That's not saying that they're corrupt or anything, although there is a lot of that too, but you have to be in charge of your own health. Nobody else is going to look after it. I mean, the way health is done in this country where people just go to these, I mean, it's better than nothing, but they go to some place where the doctor doesn't even know them.

And your doctor has to know your history to be, for me to even begin to trust them. You have to know my whole medical history. You have to have a continuation. That's how medicine should be done. If you're just going to some guy at the strip mall and he's like, oh, I see the symptom and this is what we do for it.

Well, maybe it'll work out. Maybe it'll make you feel better tomorrow, but as far as long-term health. So, you know, look, a lot of that is about economics. Not everyone can afford that. I think after the pandemic, we've seen people some, most of the time want to be told what to do. Maybe recently we get people on the show and we got a lot of shit during the pandemic. Cause we were very skeptical about a lot of things going on as I know you were. But I think now people are starting to kind of wake up a little bit and say, oh, you really kind of do need to be your own advocate. A degree doesn't necessarily, or a credential doesn't necessarily mean expert. That's what I always

said. And as usual, I'm right. People take too long to catch up to it. But yeah, I've always been a medical skeptic. That's not to say I'm not, I don't, it's not like I don't believe in vaccines. Of course, first of all, it's science. There's no believing in. Vaccines are real and they're a fantastic tool that we have in the box.

It doesn't mean I want one for myself or one size fits all or that every situation is right or that there aren't always repercussions and side effects to every medical intervention that's that saying i think vaccines are bad and that some of those side effects are worth the risk and some aren't and i should be able to make that judgment with again a doctor or more who i listen to and what I read. Again, back to the original point. First thing is be your own doctor as best you can. No, you didn't go to medical school. No, they know more than you about lots of stuff. They don't know everything either. Medical error is one of the leading

causes of ill health in this country. And that's not even counting the stuff that they're not counting as medical error that I would count. Well, Bill Maher, welcome to the show. We're jumping right into the vaccine. We're in your studio. I got to be honest, you have home field advantage. I'm a little discombobulated with all the stuff going on, but just really cool setup. But right away, you know, jumping into this topic, I think what we appreciated about you and what we do appreciate about you is you are not afraid to say what I think is on a lot of people's minds. And what in a lot of times is common sense and proves to be right. Have you always been that way? Well, I don't care what's

on their minds. I care what's on my mind and I say what's on my mind and it just jives with what a lot of people are thinking, which is great. I mean, I love, there's nothing in my life I love more. Well, let me light this joint and then I'll- Have you always been that way though? A close second is how much I love that connection with my audience. Have you always been outspoken like that and always been apologetic? Not as a child. I certainly was shy to myself and wouldn't have thought to do anything like that. But, you know, I always wanted to be a comedian, and comedians have to be outspoken, or they should be.

That's not true. Some comedians are just silly, but it was never my kind of comedy. So it just fit in with that. And, of course, as you get older and more confident and see more and feel like, oh, I know what's going on here, and I can comment on that. I mean, I've been on TV for 31 years straight. Wow.

Something must be clicking with a certain segment of people do you remember a point when you were when you were young where you started to see people really giving you attention for speaking your mind like what inspired this has it been a slow build well i've had two shows you know politically incorrect and then the one i'm on now, real time for nine years and 21 years. So, I mean, it's just a matter of like, there's a certain percentage of the population that would never watch either show because you have to have a brain to do it. Not even a great one. Just a brain. Just a brain. I'm going to need shot a tequila so that that oh, yeah. All right, bro What are we drinking here? What would you like Lauren? I would like what you made yourself. I want to okay

So this is Jing. This is just something that is on the I think it's new on them. I definitely knew I don't know if it's even on the market, but it's just to make sparkling water taste like um i don't know yeah diet soda without any of the chemicals that are in diet soda because diet soda is not health food either i mean there's a good answer to your question but like first of all thank you you want some of this i got some oh you Oh, you got some. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. And here. Cheers. Yeah.

But, yeah, I mean, again, I said right at the beginning, the thing, of course vaccines are a valuable tool. You know, like they, and when I mean they, the medical Western establishment would like to paint anyone who has questions as just a nut or like an anti-vaxxer, not an anti-vaxxer. It's like saying, you know, I'm anti-antibiotics. No, I just don't want to take them if everyone's taking them and I don't think I need them. Yeah. I think that's a reasonable, I mean, so reasonable. I feel the same way as you and God forbid you ask a fucking question, especially during

all that stuff that was going on. It was so it was like playing laser tag. You had to step over the lasers. You couldn't say anything. You've ever seen that meme with the lasers around and the guys trying to go through and navigate? I mean, you couldn't say one thing. Everyone would just eat you alive. I mean, maybe you have the same thing, but the silliest thing in my life is that

I'm seen as this ultra controversial person, and I'm actually the most reasonable. Right. It's rational. On virtually everything. What I was telling, what I appreciate in the middle, like. Yeah. What I appreciate about you and I followed you for yours is that you are someone that's willing to talk to everyone and hear different perspectives all the time. We've not done this nearly as long as you've done it about eight years, so close to a decade. And during that time, obviously a lot of things have happened in media. And it's so funny because sometimes we'll

have someone like Chelsea Clinton on, and then we'll have someone like Tommy Lerner, left and right, as far as you go in the audience. Yeah, of course. It's what the country is. In the audience, like sometimes they're super happy and sometimes they're super upset. And we've always found it so strange when people get upset that we're just talking to people. I have no patience for those people. And yes, I have lost audience and I don't miss them. I wish everyone would love me. But again, we got to get rid of the people without the brain.

They're not even coming. And then some of them are very brainy. You know, they only can see the world through team players. You know, everything that their team does, which is usually out here in Hollywood, the blue team, the liberals, which I mostly am with them anyway, we're voting for the same person. You know, we're generally on the same side. To a lot of them, I'm some sort of arch conservative because I won't go along with all your supreme leftist nonsense or the stuff like about the vaccines.

I mean, that's a good example. That just became a leftist identity thing. But the left used to be the vaccine skeptics. The more I want masks, the more I want vaccines, the better person I am. And the more you question it, the more you're a conservative. It's not even a conservative liberal issue. It's medicine. It's science. And I'm the one who wants to look at it.

You're the one who wants to shut the door on it, which is not scientific at all. And have you seen the stuff that's going on right now with RFK and Cali Means and those guys speaking to the Senate the last few days and the piece that the Atlantic just did, where basically they said, I forget, they called them like the cuckoo conventions here, but it was basically a group of people saying, hey, the food is poison. We're killing our children. The obesity rates are out of control. Somebody should look into this. And it's become a political issue now. You'll find this very interesting. Somebody sent me this video. It's kind of funny. I don't know who the guy was who was doing it, but he was talking this rfk thing rfk did come out now rfk

who is a personal friend i will always like him i said this on my show a couple weeks ago when i was defending his wife uh but that was but he thank you but he he is kooky about certain things i'm not where he is on everything and he's all all over the map too. I mean, I had him on this and, you know, Bobby, you, you know, you never think any vaccine does any good. And he'd be like, is that what you think? I'm like, yeah, I read, you said it, you know, like he's very, it's, there's some stuff there. That's an extreme position. Don't, don't ask me to like, be like, and you're with RFK on vaccines. I'm not. I'm more on his side than Western medicine in that I'm skeptical and he's skeptical and thinks that there should be a place for individual autonomy and deciding about them.

But he goes to places that I think make me want to go. And what conspiracy theory don't you believe it's too it's too far for you so you want so you get stuck in the place where it's like okay is everything a conspiracy but here's the interesting thing he did this the thing you're referring to he was was it a senate well this was just like like the last few days and it was funny I made a comment on the post I was like oh this is the avengers list of podcast guests because there's a group of people that we've had on the show. But The Atlantic wrote a piece, it was like the Cuckoo Convention, and it was basically disregarding everything that was said.

And I think that's a problem too, if you've made a health issue, a political issue, now people, you know. Well, one of the things he said was, I mean, he brought up, it's funny, I said, wow, that's what I've been saying on TV for 20 years, that we're poisoning ourselves, that it's, you know, the food, the call is coming from inside the house. I always did a whole thing about that. The call is coming. It's the food, you know, it's the most obvious thing, which by the way, again, back to doctors, you know, until I met my holistic doctor, no one doctor ever said to me, no matter what I went to them for, what do you eat? Like as if that's completely irrelevant to, it's relevant to every health problem you could possibly have.

And it's the answer to many of them. Anyway, so Bobby Kennedy was saying that, which no politician ever says, because the last thing you can do in America is ever question what the people want to eat or ask them not to stuff their fucking faces with whatever shit they want to put in there. That is number one. That's why during the pandemic, they never mentioned that the vast majority of people who died from it were either very old or obese. But you can't mention it. But Bobby Kennedy, who one reason I like him, he's a gutsy guy and he says what he thinks. And he brought this up and he was right on the money. He was like, you know, we're poisoning ourselves. A lot of our health problems, which caused so many other problems with economically

and so forth is because the food supply is poison. And this guy did a video and he said, and he showed Time Magazine did an article about a year and a half earlier. And it was, the title was something like, you know, why ultra processed foods are killing us and why they're terrible for you. Then Bobby Kennedy, who by this time had aligned himself with Trump, makes this statement. And they come out with an article four days later, why ultra-processed foods may not be as bad as you think. Nothing changed with the science or the food. But to my point about just everything is what team you're on now being against ultra-processed foods. You've been doing this a long time.

Has it always been this way? Because I think we grew up, I remember I got to my freshman year of high school, both of us. I remember going to school that year when 9-11 happened. I remember it being on TV. And so our generation of millennials have basically known 20-something years of foreign wars.

And as we've watched the political theater unfold, it's kind of, it's become this you versus them thing. But I remember growing up, like you would sit around and people would talk about it and it wasn't so contentious. It wasn't as bad. Social media has blown it up. Yeah. And I feel like we talk about this all the time. Yes. That was a big factor. Yes. I think social media, people that aren't savvy enough to understand the algorithms, it has a tendency to make every issue feel like the most important issue in your life when it's maybe not. Algorithms, I think, are going to be the death of us more than AI. I have someone on my show, Yuval Harari, Friday, whose new book is a lot about AI and certainly lots of people.

The Sapiens author? Yeah. So he's genius. I mean, again, that's why the brainless people cannot watch this show. It just would not like that. Can I take a pivot and ask why you don't believe in marriage? Jeez. Whoa.

I know. I want to get to the juicy stuff. Okay. You guys want to talk about politics. I want to talk about marriage. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Sure. Why don't you believe in marriage? Well, sometimes I don't believe in it. Okay. okay you guys want to talk about politics i want to talk about marriage okay okay okay sure why don't you believe in marriage well i don't sometimes i don't believe in it okay it's not it's not hinduism uh there's no belief in it it's whether something is right for you yeah why don't you think it's for you because i know me so well yeah what do you think would happen with you what would happen if someone married you? If someone married me? Yeah. You make it sound like I tripped and got married.

Oh, gosh darn, somebody married me. Well, I feel like I'd have to ask. I'd have to be involved. I certainly would. Okay. Well, it would ruin everything. I mean, look, I'm not going to... She was yelling at me in the car over here, by the way.

Yeah, it ruins everything. I love to talk about this subject, but it's tough because I also don't really ever want to divulge the details of my own personal life. So it's tough to do it. Very mysterious. I just think it makes it better. You know, I, I don't need anyone. And, and also I don't think people would understand it.

It's not orthodox, but it sure works for me. But that's it. You have to find, like medicine, you got to find what works for you. You know, you have to watch your own thing. Don't go by just what the, I think a lot of people get married because it's the thing to do. It certainly was in my head for way too long that you find the one, you know, like it's an Easter egg hunt and you find the egg and then that's, everything's perfect. And that's certainly not the way I've ever seen life work and, uh, didn't work for me. And I look, it's not that i don't believe in marriage or acknowledge that some people do

have good marriages i know people who would be lost without this it's a lot of work though it really is well see there you go no it is a lot of work i'm out now i'm no i'm actually going to agree with you on something i'm sorry that i have to agree with him on something a lot of work i'm done i'm already done it's a lot of work, but I can confidently say this. And I've said this before on the show. I would not be married. I, I, I've set the bar so high that no, I would not be married unless it was you. I wouldn't. I, and so I totally understand where you're coming from on that. It is a lot. I do. I do think people are flippant with getting into serious, intimate relationships and then signing that piece of paper without really... Yeah, they don't like the person.

I mean, there's so many... I mean, I could answer that question for 10 hours. Yeah. Just the things, beginning with, like, work. Like, as soon as I hear that, you know, it's like... Because whenever I ask a married couple, like, how's the marriage going? That's always the first thing out of their mouth. Yeah, it's work.

It's work. Well, it's tough. You know, it's tough. It's a lot of work. And I'm like, I don't want to work. I think I'm really fun to be married to, but you're a lot of work. And you... Like, I think...

We have a discussion about self-awareness in our relationship a lot. I'm a cat. But it is a lot of work being married to you. But what about kids? Well, I never liked kids. So that was never a problem. I get that too. I get it.

Never liked kids. I get it. So if you find someone you know who is on your page with this stuff and it is possible it's like you have all the good and none of the bad and that's that was the only thing I would ever was ever gonna hold out for it's like I was somebody was here recently and we were talking about the fact that people you know like oh I'll get a Dr. Phil you know because even shrinks even the experts always people, you know, like, oh, I'll get a Dr. Phil, you know, because even shrinks, even the experts always say,

well, you're gonna fight. It's just how you fight. And I'm like, again, I'm out. I, you know, I will not fight. I don't want to fight. I had certainly have had years where I was fighting and it's like, no, you can do it. Never married.

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pretend it has to be real. Cause they can smell that on you. But, uh, yeah, I mean, so I'm good and nothing that I could have predicted when I was your age came to pass. Like I would never have imagined that at this age anyone, and again like I'll say this just generally, my dating is not age-appropriate. Age-appropriate meaning you're dating women that would be perceived in an unorthodox context younger than what you should be dating. Not just perceived, they literally are. They literally are. I uh but to the people who are illegal who are pissed off of course but the people who are pissed off at that fuck you like uh that's you you do you i do me you

you do what works for you uh i was watching the golden um bachelor correct i already heard you like the woman okay one and the reason I'm doing it is because- What's the Golden Bachelor? Oh, get on board. Does it mean it's an older Bachelor? I haven't watched it, but I heard about it. Explain what it is to him and he doesn't understand. Well, there was the Golden Bachelor.

And then now one of the ladies who was one of the ejected harem members for the ancient bachelor when it was a guy. Now she's the bachelorette. So it's the golden bachelorette. Okay. So somebody told me about our audience right now, like, Ooh, they finally got Bill Maher in the chair and they're going to get into the heavy top. And the reason I watched this golden bachelor for two hours is because somebody, because we were new, you were coming in and they said, you should watch this. Cause they're going to, they're going to have seen it and want to talk about it. So I watched this and, uh, okay. So maybe this will get it. I don't understand about marriage. First of all, it's this woman. She's a perfectly nice woman. She's 61. I think, uh, these guys, they talk about her like she's this goddess.

And it's like, I, it's just so sad to me these these guys are is really that desperate out there they're talking about this extraordinarily ordinary person like she's a combination of uh madame curie and linda evangelista the reason they want to win is because they want to leverage the fame that they get no kidding yeah yeah it's not about the girl well but the guys i feel are sincerely wanting her i don't think they're faking it i mean the things they do just it opens with and i guess they all do it like this but i haven't seen bachelor in a long time but she's standing outside the mansion and this, the parade of guys. First, the first guy is French.

I don't even believe for one second he was really French. I mean, he's got this French accent that it's like, I can do that accent. Just put the accent on the wrong syllable. I am new to your country. And it's like, I don't think this guy was French at all. Okay. Then a guy shows up, he's wearing an admiral's uniform. And it says, retired.

Okay. So you're wearing a costume. You're showing up for your date on the Ancient Bachelor show with a costume on. Okay. Then there's always like the asshole in every reality show. They always have to purposely cast the asshole. So some guy in a pink, as soon as I saw the pink sport jacket, I was like, okay, pink jacket, asshole.

Sure enough. I almost wore one. She picks him, by the way, as one of them. So I have to question her taste. But, like, it's just, I mean, I don't get it. What if they did the reverse and they just had an old dude date them? They do do that. They do.

They do do that. That's what they do. But The Bachelor's not dating too many. The golden Bachelor. Oh, you're living under a rock. That was like the biggest show last year, The Golden Bachelor. Oh, see, I don't know, Lauren. I don't know this stuff.

What other content are you consuming? Are you consuming? They told me to watch this for you. I've never seen it. You don't even know what The Bachelor is? I've never seen The Bachelor or... I've seen The Bachelor here and there, but not The Golden Bachelor.

Let's get the production team in there. The Golden Bachelor you didn't hear about? I've heard about it. I've heard about it. I've never watched it. I wonder why they told you to watch it. I didn't watch that one either, but I caught on that this lady was one of the rejectees,

which is something they do often, right? They take the rejectee and then they get their own show. So now she's the belle of the ball. And all these guys, they're mostly like these completely interchangeable, generic, gray, white men. The only guys who stand out, I hate to make it sound bad, but it's actually a compliment, are the black guys. They know how to step to a woman better than the white guys who are just like,

you know, and it's always sad because, you know, to give the audience permission to like someone who's single at that age, they mostly have to be widowers. You know, so it's my wife died and now, okay, you're a good person and you need love. And so, you know, I mean, if I, if you took a drink for every time one of them said the word journey. Oh, you'd be shithouse. You'd be, you'd be dead. Just in like the first five minutes, this journey we're on and this journey. And, and when she rejects them, it's like, oh, the drama. I've known you for an hour. And you're not going to be in my life.

How can we go on? We have these characters. We have Bachelor and Bachelorette characters on the show. And I always ask them, I'm like, do you actually get, do you fall in love with these people? Does it feel real? And a lot of them say that it feels like they get so into it. And there's just like this environment. It's that it feels real for them.

I don't know if I believe it, but that's what they say. I'll say this. These guys guys legitimately they're not good actors they're not actors they legitimately want to get with this woman and that's fine i i think it's great because as three dog nights said long ago one is the loneliest number but one is the loneliest number and lonely is bad no one likes to be lonely and these guys are lonely and i feel for them and so they've idolized this woman but is this like the thing where you'll get this it's like last call at the bar and all the guys are looking around at each other and there's two girls loud is it like that kind of thing and it's just if it was a no i just i just think they have no great way to meet women and and finally here's somebody who's in a trap

I mean look I just do a bit about this about me So I get it when I say when somebody says you look great when you're my age In your sick, they should hire on it for your age when i think you look great i think the outfit's great i appreciate it you don't you don't look but like my punchline was come on if i was 32 when i walked in i look at this you'd be like oh my god were you in a fire you know for your age is the best you can do i do think i look good for my age and she looks good for her age. But again, let's not, I mean, she's not Helen of Troy, but look, they're just looking for companionship and compared to what I guess is where they else would meet a woman at their age.

It's tough. You're 60, you're a widower now, or you're divorced, you know, and this is a great opportunity. And if only one of them could be like confident and not act like this is oh i worry and you don't even know this woman you're like spilling guts and she's in the same dress the show started we haven't even had a costume change you're gonna be they're gonna call you and ask you to be the golden bachelorette or bachelor i told my friends this if i could i could do a show where i was the bachelor but not with the age appropriate that's okay and it would be so much better and so much

funny i bet that would be a hit oh a lot of them would be crying no i'm kidding we can cast some of my friends no but it would be a funny show okay but why did you decide to start doing club random were you do do you ever actually this is a question do you ever get tired of being the guy in the center of paul like do you is it was it something because you wanted something to do different and you got tired well i like it because i couldn't have you two on there. Right. I can, I can, I mean, Cheech and Chong were here last Wednesday. Yeah, but I saw you had Jordan Peterson on both. Jordan Peterson's been on Club Daniel. Absolutely.

There are people who can do both. But, you know, most people are not, I mean, if a lot of people can't even watch the show, you can imagine how few people can do it. It's the show for people who, let's just say it's a different kind of show. And you have to really know what's going on in the world and be able to talk about whatever issues happened that week as an expert. That's not a lot of people. Because we're not like, oh, we're going to be talking about this. I mean, if they ask, yeah, we're going to try.

But look, if Trump gets shot again tomorrow, we're going to talk about that. You have to be ready to talk about that or whatever. And these are the kind of people, you know, I would call them great cocktail party guests. They can talk about anything. That's not everybody. And that doesn't mean other people are stupid or just means people have different interests. Some people are just lots of people are not interested in politics at all. So I want to talk to them.

And celebrities, you know, celebrities, very few. I mean, I could name on probably two hands the amount of what you would call celebrities who have done real time in 21 years. Kerry Washington, Ben Affleck, Alec Baldwin. I mean, there's a few of them, you know, people like that who can talk politics. Seth MacFarlane, smart people, but that's just not most celebrities. They are just, and I like celebrities. And I, you know, it started because I'd be at dinner with people and I'd be like, man, you're so interesting. All these other topics that you never talk about on your show. Why don't you do a

podcast? I'm like an idiot. I was like, why do I need a podcast? I have a TV show. And I'm like, oh no, podcasts are cool. Look at how great you guys have done with it look at this thing well i think it's interesting for us to see at least from our perspective to see guys like you taking this medium seriously because i think for a long time people are like oh it's a pot i remember we used to use stuff to create videos to show people where to find the podcast he goes on joe i love you on joe i love when you guys talk. No, I love you in the format. Because like you said,

sometimes we get pressured to comment on political topics. And we say, you know, like we try to be informed. We're maybe not the best political pundits because we're not as up on it as other people. We try to stay informed and watch. I get it. But we're not, you know, that's not our world. But they're like, well, because you have a platform, you have to take a stance and a side.

I'm like, do we really all the time? But I can truly fit in both worlds. Yeah. I can talk to anybody. It's my little superpower. I can have the hook to a girl here. And we did. And the next week was Jordan Peterson.

You know, I mean, and I love it. I love that. That's the best thing about podcasting. I love that range in life, you know, and I love them both equally. I mean, they're both my children now. I mean, all my work goes into real time. That has not changed, but that's the beauty of this. No preparation. No, I know I just walk in as opposed to the other show, which is like all preparation. And of course it's an ad lib show. Most of it. So I can't even. How much, how long does it take you to prep for one? Well, I mean,

there's three written elements. There's a monologue, there's a four, a desk piece, new rules, and an editorially a do at the end. Those are written pieces that I want perfect. It's only one day a week, that show. So they take many, many, many, many hours, and I love doing it. But it is work. Whereas this is just... This is our prep work. What do you do when you're not working? That's a good question.

I used to do more things, like go to Hawaii and stuff, although that was also a working vacation I like working you know I'm not great on vacations I like my house I like here I'm on the road a lot as a stand-up so I'm gonna stop doing that after this year at least for a year take next year off but that is like you know has been for many years every other weekend that That's enough travel. What age did you start doing stand-up? 22. I got out of college at 22. I mean, I moved here. I like start doing it. That's when you start hanging around the clubs. You don't even get on stage. So,

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on or not say certain things we always felt as like we want to be able to talk to anyone we want anyone we want however we want share our ideas without fear now i mean that's the great thing about being on hbo they're great about that when i was on that show i was fired and i understand why um and it was cool and it turned out to be the best, you know, blessing in disguise because I wound up on a network that was, I think, a better network and better for me. So HBO lets you do kind of whatever you want. I don't think they've ever said anything. Wow. That's their, but that's not just me. That is what has made them the premier network for all these years is they let people do the show they want, whether

it's me or whether it's David Chase doing The Sopranos, which no regular network would ever do. They just did a documentary on it. It was pretty interesting. And they would never have hired Jimmy Gandolfini as the lead because he's not a network kind of lead. He's not the good looking, you know. So they let people do what they do. They trust you and, you know, they're very loyal and they're very smart to do that. And so, yeah, I mean, I don't remember anybody ever saying you can't have this one on. Now, of course, it's a two-way street. I don't give them problems. They even put me on CNN now. Our show runs on CNN. I said, really? You're going to show our show with all the language? I mean, this week- CNN might need some ratings.

This week, the desk piece, which they do show on CNN, I mean, it's all these jokes on the P. Diddy sex parties. I mean, it's really dirty, but they don't care. I was like, CNN can say fuck on CNN. Yeah. And nobody even gave a shit. It just shows you, like, people just don't know. They don't keep up to where the country's gone. Like, that's where the country is now. What are your thoughts on all this pddy shit well like do you go down the conspiratorial rabbit hole or do you think i don't i don't think you have to i think i know exactly what what happened basically and uh um you know i sex? Have you been to one? We had a guy that throws the sex parties in LA, Damon Launer. He does the...

He came on the show. I used to go to his things. Oh, yeah. So he came on the show. We talked all about it. He showed up in a full robe into the office with just everything. He asked me on the show to give his finger a blowjob and show him how I did it. I said, pump the brakes.

To give... Oh, your finger a blowjob. His finger. He wanted me to give his finger a blowjob. Hi him how i did it i said pump the brakes to give it oh your finger a blowjob he wanted me to give his finger a blowjob hi damon hello because of my techniques damon yeah and yeah that runs them yeah so oh i see so yeah it's p diddy probably sex parties that's what you think but do you go down the conspiratorial rabbit hole saying this is like because it's government and all this that everyone's saying you think it's just a guy that was throwing well i know i don't ask my guest to demonstrate blowjobs that's that's uh you never know um it's a bag of check sticks this may be just the luton show but that part got cut out of the jordan peterson episode episode and i did not get into that that was but uh i mean look i am not an exhibitionist

so anytime i was at one of these parties you know i did not i my hat is off to those people in a way i really admire them and porn stars like that you can do that in front of people because you know and I think I would have acquitted myself nobly but I still you know that's a something first of all being pressure someone who's famous you don't want to like you don't want not that anybody taped anything you just don't it's just, and it's just not in me. And again, I don't mean to, to excuse this away. I'm just not brave enough. And I admire the courage of people who can get down in a room full of people. Somebody was telling me, I'm not going to say the name, but a very big and famous female music star. What does it rhyme with uh no was at a one of these parties i think it was one

of damon's parties and was in the middle of the living room for two three hours and she's a big fucking star who you would recognize that's gutsy yeah and apparently it stayed quiet well i think probably those parties wouldn't last very long if it didn't stay quiet well he lied to me he told me it would never get out it was in the inquirer like six months later well that you were there yes oh that you were there yes and they also mentioned some other celebrities who also were there. So Gwyneth Paltrow. And I don't think I'm telling tales out of school because it was in the Inquirer. Some people who I did see there, you know, I don't want to say other names, but there were famous people there.

But then they went to Brad and Angelina and they were never there. So how do you... They just like threw this like, hey, we're in the Inquirer, fuck it. And Brad and Angelina. So how do you think something like the P. Diddy stuff stays quiet for so long i mean people knew well the music industry i mean like i've had a few girlfriends um in the music industry who were singers and and i've never heard anything but things like i've never met anyone in the industry who didn't try to fuck me, or just horror stories about, and we all flew to Las Vegas, and then when I wouldn't fuck them,

I had to get my own way home. You know, just the worst sort of, and I've asked this for years, because it's been now seven years since me too, I was 2017. How does the music industry escape? I mean, well, maybe not anymore. If I told the tales just that I know from, and I would, okay, it's secondhand, but these girls are not lying. I know when someone's lying to me and it's, uh, what now part of the reason they

get away with this is because it's such a sexual industry to begin with. And there are groupies, there are women who are there just immediately to have sex and we'll do anything and we'll grab your Johnson before you can do something inappropriate. That doesn't excuse any of it, but that is the industry we're in. And that is not like the insurance industry. Right. Okay. So of course the men are going to like take advantage of that and just enough of that happens. And they just have an attitude. I've seen this in many rock star guys. Like they just have this attitude. Like they just assume every woman wants to fuck them right away.

Right away. So it proceeds from there. And then a fair number of them apparently do. So it just encourages it and it gets worse. But it doesn't excuse it. And it is actionable. and it is about time. So you think rolled up some of these criminals, you think there's a big roll up coming? I do.

And it's way overdue. It's, you know, things happen when they happen, but it is seven years past when they went after the other industries. I mean, they went all through like NPR, really NPR. They got Garrison Keillor before P Diddy. Really? Okay. So what do you think is going to happen? You think that all, a lot of people that are super famous are going to start going to jail. Do you think there's going to be like this reckoning? I don't think he's going to be the this reckoning i don't think he's going to be the last one i don't think the cell that has r kelly and uh p diddy in it is i heard he's in a cell with sam bankman fry is that i don't freed i don't think i don't think the same cell they're in the

same detention so i was thinking about this though this is you know elon talks a lot about being in a simulation and that is something that is out of a simulation to me. Like that is like you couldn't you couldn't script that, that those two like would in the lives they both led would then one day end up. Well, what I can't do is picture Sam Bankman Freed at a freak party because that is not going to work at all. It's going to kill the vibe real quick. No, that's going to be be like uh puffy could you get rid of the guy with the jufro before the baby this guy is harshing my lord has no idea who we're talking about franklin feed what you're the husband you tell her it's a big crypto scam

we're not gonna in a short period of time we're not gonna you've never heard of sam bankman no i've never heard of him see i'm honest i've never oh i know i'm not i mean it's like people have different but this is what happens to us in politics but this was a very big story i mean this is not politics this is no but people get people will get mad sometimes if we say hey like what i think sometimes if people one of the problems i think that's going on right now is everybody needs to be an expert all the time. And you see people fighting in comments all over the place on social media. And it's like, do you really need to be the expert every time on every political issue? I've made this same point in editorials on my show.

If you don't really have anything to say about something, shut the fuck up. You don't have to opine about every fucking thing this is what we never used to do is and why we got along so much better i think people will get mad at us if we say we just don't know we don't know about this one particular that's i first of all i respect that do you want me to start telling you about whatever's going on with foreign policy right now do you mean like what i say to people is you go and you follow certain people. And in our case, we're talking to all sorts of people across the spectrum, across the board, mostly in health and wellness and how to live a better life, whatever it may be.

Do you really want us to comment on foreign policy or the political atmosphere? We can. It's not going to be accurate. It's a perfectly valid point of view. And it's honest. It's accurate. It's perfectly valid point of view. And it's, it's, it's honest, it's realistic, it's humble. It doesn't cast you in any bad light. It's, and again, it's not phony. It's not, it's not this, um, I have to, there's a pressure. I feel like a lot of, because of social media, there's a pressure, you know, post this square in support of x or whatever just do it

we didn't know what was going on i'm in the mean girls club you know we don't i'm sorry we don't all wear pink on wednesdays i get it that's the rule that came down but i don't wear pink on wednesdays i wear whatever the fuck i want i hate the idea of having to feel. We both hate the idea of having to do something because everybody is doing something. I need a second to think about it for a minute. Where can everyone find you? Pimp your show out. My HBO show? Yeah.

Look, my show is actually one of the last, what they call appointment televisions. Like people, Friday night, want to see it so fucking badly. They tune in. That they watch when it's actually on. And for years, it was live, live. Now we tape it for, it goes on at seven here in the East, I mean, in the West, 10 in the East on HBO. But I mean, who in the world watches TV when the show is on? You watch it when you want to watch it. One of the great advancements in Western civilization. I'm old enough to remember when you had to watch a show when they told you to watch it. One of the great advancements in Western civilization. I'm old enough to remember

when you had to watch a show when they told you to watch it. I don't watch anything when they tell me to watch it. I don't even know when they are on and what network. I said I wanted it and it comes on my menu and I watch it. So, you know, people watch real time or they watch it, the clips, you know, people are, some people only have the attention span for a clip here or there whatever i don't know it gets out and club random is where people get get podcasts youtube and whatever the fuck i don't know for this audience if you're listening to the podcast right now we're going to do your podcast so just listen for the second part of this episode if you're wondering why this just kind of cut off go to the club random podcast it's bill's podcast that's the

second half of this conversation thank you for listening thank you for watching see you next time