The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Bobbi Althoff On How To Go Viral, Find Your Voice, Manage Criticism, & Build Something From Nothing

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

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Aha! Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. The viral sensation, comedian, and host of the really good podcast, Bobby Altroff, is on the show today. We're going to have a conversation about skyrocketing to fame on TikTok, how Bobby carved out a niche with her signature deadpan humor, how she stands out online, and her hilariously awkward celebrity interviews. Bobby, welcome to the Him and Her Show. This is the skinny confidential Him and Her. I feel like everyone with your name and even on this brief says the word viral everywhere,

but I'm just going to take a guess that in your shoes, it doesn't feel like you went viral. Like I feel like it's a slow build if I'm guessing. Kind of, I mean, I don't know, there's so many levels. I like how we're just automatically like, and I am like my voice changes and everything. I'm like, I feel like there are a lot of levels to going viral though.

Okay, you have a hair that is gonna bother me. If I fix it, There you go. Okay. Usually someone's fixing my hair. It's yourself. Yeah, it's yourself. Your hair is so stuck to your... No, it's not. Today I just push it back. No combing.

It doesn't look like it. It does not look effortless. I'm sorry. It's effortless. Okay, so it doesn't, like, in your... When you say viral, what do you mean there's a lot of different levels? Explain it. There's, you know, TikTok viral, where you kind of just are viral on the app, I would

say. You're on TikTok and everyone on TikTok is talking about you, but it never leaves that platform. And then I think there's another level to it where you go viral all over the internet and you're kind of...and then mainstream news is picking it up and stuff. So I think there's levels. So I think that prior to my big going viral, I had just gone TikTok viral, you know?

So what were you doing to even go TikTok viral in the first place? Like, what was your first pieces of content? Just me doing parodies of being a bad mom. So I was just talking, I was really just trying, I wanted to go viral. I wanted to do so bad. So I was like, I need to figure out what to do.

And that's kind of just what worked. And so I kept doing it and kept doing it. And then it grew into a podcast. What makes a bad mom? I can't wait to hear. I don't know what makes, I was just thinking of the most outrageous things that mothers would never actually do,

but I was like, what is the most outrageous thing? And people I realized were so gullible, they'll believe anything. So give me some examples. Just saying if my daughter's, I showed my daughter a lot in the beginning, but I would show her and be like, my daughter's teeth are growing in crooked,

so I'm taking her to get braces. And she was six months old. And it's like, people are like, how dare you do that to her? That's so fucked up. And I was like, they're so gullible. So they just all believed it. Yeah.

Is that sort of where your shtick came in? Is you're like, these people are so gullible. Like, I'm just gonna continue it. Yeah, they, pretty much. Cause, and then it was, it was cool. they, pretty much. And then it was cool, because there was the people who got it and loved being in on the joke. And then there were the people who didn't get it,

and that was really where the virality came from, I would say, just all the people who didn't get what was going on. But I would hashtag parody at the end of 10 hashtags. I tried to hide it. I was like, I want some people to, I want the people who are, I think who have common sense to understand. I think I'll give them a little like here, but everybody else who doesn't look into things.

That's a tall order on the internet to look for common sense. Yeah, they don't not, there is a good amount to have it. I like those people. Those are my favorite people on the internet. You could name your account Bobby's parody and they still. And they would still believe it. Yeah. No, there's some people, a lot of people on the internet who just are so stupid. It's odd. I was like, what word should I use? That's not accurate.

Sometimes I'm like, what? I know. Like it's just, it's a self-awareness, a lacking. They don't have that. What point did you go mainstream when you started your podcast? Yeah. Yeah. It was probably a few episodes into my podcast. have that. What point did you go mainstream when you started your podcast? Yeah, yeah, it was

probably a few episodes into my podcast. When I interviewed Marco, it took off. I've been just winging this from day one. I'm still winging it. I kind of, I mean, I'm working on hiring a producer now, so I think that I'll wing it a little bit less once that happens. But yeah, I don't know, there's no, I think it's just something that hasn't really been done in the form of a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. I think you've cracked a formula where you've created something very unique that stands out. And a lot of people are looking and trying to figure out how to go viral.

And you figured out how to kind of do it in a way that was different than what other people would expect, which is why I think it works. And we do, you know, this show for a long time. And I would say like, you know, there's a lot of big names that go on a lot of different places, but I think it's the rarity of the guests and how few interviews they do, and then the difference in form. Like, anyone can talk to the same person over and over the same way, but I think the way you did it was,

and then it was so unique. Yeah. I would say too, my podcast started because... And this is no offense to you guys because you guys have a podcast, Yeah. I would say too, my podcast started because, and this is no offense to you guys, because you guys have a podcast, but I was like, everyone has a podcast and it's just, it's what everyone does. And I was like, that's, I used to think

it was the stupidest thing people did, was like, oh, they're starting a podcast. Like, so-and-so announces they have a podcast. I was like, what are you going to talk about? What are you going to, what are you going to offer this? I don't know, you know? I immediately started it was like, what are you gonna talk about? What are you gonna offer this? I don't know, you know? I immediately started it as like, I knew podcasts made a lot of money.

You guys know that. Hence the mattress would be good. Yeah, exactly. You guys know a thing about that. So I was like, I want a podcast, but since everybody has a podcast, how do I differentiate mine from everybody else's podcast? And that's how the idea came.

And so I tried to base it on my favorite podcast. I listened to one in my life. And it was Guy Raz, How I Built This. And I was like, let me interview rich people and figure out how they got there. So that's what it started off as. But then I remember having a thought of like, a celebrity is gonna wanna come on a podcast called

So You're Rich, because that's so tone deaf of them to go on that. Just, so I was like, I need to change the name. So that's how it became, it was just a parody of a good podcast, which people are like, this podcast is not really good. And I'm like, you think you're doing something with that? I know it's not good.

It's not supposed to be good. At no point has this ever been something that's supposed to be a good podcast. It's a shitty podcast. I don't research my guests. I don't... I don't... I show up, like, we both show up, and we're just like, all right, let's just see what happens. And I... I don't know, yeah, it's not... There's no formula to making it a good.

That's like the... You know, it's funny, because, like, obviously I do this show, but then on the other side of it is we work with people that are trying to do versions of what we or you or others have done. And like what I always say is if you come in and you're just like, I'm another version of that thing, it's like my eyes kind of glaze over. Yeah.

Because it's like, the thing already happened. I mean, I think it's the same podcasts are the same as, you know, if you're an entrepreneur launching a new product and you're going to ask what does your product, why is it different than other people's and it's podcast a lot of people just come out with a podcast that's very similar to every other podcast and it's like why would anyone watch yours then so I didn't want that I don't want to have a podcast that flopped but I was also I Actually at no point did I ever think that my podcast would not do well There was not even a question of it from the first minute

You come up here and you say things like you're winging it. I know about you. I do research. You are much more clever than I know I was gonna say There's a lot of like little breadcrumbs that you just left in there where I feel like there's like a business mind in here Like I said There is a business mind in it for sure, but yeah, I don't know. I guess there is No, what I think is cool about your generation is there's like a casualness to it that's not our generation. I don't really know how to put my finger on it.

It's like you guys are like more chill and relaxed, but you do also have a business mind. So it's like you mix that together. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's laziness mixed with a little bit of, okay, I want money's lazy Nick laziness mixed with a little bit of okay I want money and I need to figure out how to

Provide for me and my kids forever. So I don't know. I've also I guess It's it's I so I started off My first job ever was at Sonic and then I worked at Jersey Mike's and I worked at I've worked so many rent I mean I was a nanny for six years and And then when the pandemic started, I lost my job as a nanny because they were stuck at home and everyone was really scared and I was pregnant. So it was not a great idea for me to be in LA. Were you here?

Yeah. And then I started selling masks on Etsy and I, like sewing them myself. And I remember making $3,000. I made so many masks. I was up all night while I was eight months pregnant. Yeah, because the CDC announced that you had to have a cloth mask and I was like, oh, they're

probably making money off of those cloth masks. How do I, like, how do I make, so I got an Etsy. I went to Target. My mom had bought me a sewing machine that I never had sewed anything on, but I knew how to sew kinda. So I watched a tutorial on YouTube of how to make a cloth mask. I went to Target, bought bed sheets, cut them up into like the size of masks, and I just started making them.

And then the sewing machine had an embroidery feature, really shitty embroidery, but I was like, oh, $5 extra, and you can get your name embroidered on it, and I'll sit ship it to you overnight. But because of that, I was getting sewed so and I also wouldn't cap myself because I was like, I don't care if this means I never sleep. I just want to and then I remember being like this me and my dad were like this could be a business. You could you could it's craziest people I'm pretty sure did what's that one brand like Kitsch did they start making masks? I feel like I've never seen them before they like grew from that. Some people did launch careers off of COVID.

And it's like, I could have, but I kind of was like, all right, I am so pregnant. I need to, and then I had my baby and I was like, I'm not gonna stay up all night anymore. So masks, this is crazy. But then I knew I needed to catch the TikTok wave. So that's kind of where that was born. Me and my sister would talk on the phone every day.

I had a newborn and I was like, how do we do it? Look at all these people going viral. Like, how do we get there? How do I do that? We were posting, I tried to make it a sister account at first. It was called Bobby and Lexi. She would not do her half. I was like, post.

I post, you post. We gotta keep this up. We need to go viral. Clean your house, do anything. I was trying anything. I did how to become a nanny. I was giving tips on the internet to five people because that's how trying anything. I did how to become a nanny. I was giving tips on the internet to five people, because that's how many views they got of how to become a nanny.

I was just so desperate to have something take off because I thought it was so unfair that there were so many influencers getting so many free things. And I was like, how the fuck do I get that too? I want that. I love these stories though, because you know, it's an example of somebody that if you, if you just put in a little bit of work and you aren't afraid to put yourself out there, like what can happen?

You've built such a massive thing now from just kind of throwing yourself out there. I'm like, we've been doing this a long time in different capacities. And when people come and say like, they look like, what's the magic formula to go viral or how do you build it online? I'm like, you just have to start doing this. You have to just do it.

And then also don't be afraid of looking stupid because I know for me in the beginning, and I know a lot of my friends, what stops them is, oh, well, what about our friends? Let's see this. And I'm not friends with any of the people who I went to high school with that I originally cared about seeing. Like, oh, what if they see how many videos I put up that get no views? Because I was putting out 10, 15, 20 videos a day getting no views.

And I thought it was so cringe, but I was like, well, whatever. I would delete them, of course, after a day because I don't want to leave a history of me failing. I was not going to let them see that for long. But I had a thing that was like, if in 24 hours it doesn't go viral, it gets deleted. And then once I started going viral, it was every single day I needed to have one video hit a million views or it gets deleted. And I would be up all night being like,

all right, this isn't, I haven't gotten a million views yet, I haven't, and it would drive me crazy if I didn't get one to hit a million views every day. And I did that for three years almost, yeah, three years. How are you doing this with a baby? Like, were you just- They sleep so much. That's all.

So baby wearing. Once I had my second kid, just had her in a baby carrier all day long. When my first kid was napping, I would be up there thinking of skits and just trying to figure out what to do. And I had a lot of help from my husband too. He helped me watch the kids and stuff. Because when he was working, he would baby wear sometimes. and I would just sit there and think of skits. So you just made it work until it worked? Yeah but I was so determined and I feel like a lot of people who know me in real life

say that once I get determined to do something it's gonna happen it's just a matter of one and I feel like that's the one I'm very stubborn about what I know I can do, even if it's gonna take me a really long time and I'm gonna be depressed during it because it's not happening. I think you said it earlier though, you're like, I never didn't think I was not gonna go viral. Oh, yeah, I knew I knew it was gonna work. I can't remember a time of me thinking when I started the podcast, oh, this might not work.

It was a matter of how to get it to work. I wasn't sure. That is a really important trait. So many people I know will like put up a podcast episode and they'll get to 50 and they'll stop. Or like even running this business, you'll have people start and they'll get to like a year and it's not really where they want it to be. And then they quit. And I'm like, and then I see the people that stick around for longer periods of

time and it's like this exponential growth that they start to get. Yeah. I think it's like, it's weird for whatever reason, the internet's the one place where people feel like, oh, I'm gonna do this for like three or four months. And if I don't become the biggest star in the world, then like I fail and I quit. And I don't know, it just takes a long fucking time.

It does. And you have to also know when you're failing and know when to change stuff. You're no stranger to this. How do you deal with criticism online? Especially as someone with young kids. Yeah. And like they're dissecting, you know, like when you do go, I think when you're isolated

to TikTok, it might feel safe or isolated to someone. Do you think TikTok feels safe? It feels safer because you can definitely control it a little bit more too. I don't know, you know, when you're just on TikTok too, not a lot of people are talking about you. I feel like I'm at a point where I will do the most random. Sometimes I do stuff and no one cares. Sometimes I do stuff and it's like, I'll look and it's like,

I don't even know now, I can't think of any news agency, but there'll be like actual magazines that post stuff about it. And I'm like, why does people care that I did said this random? I'll address my haters. Sometimes it'll be people will pick it up and I'm like, oh God, I need to be more careful of what I put out there.

Um, what I was saying is like, think about it. Like you're in TikTok, it's familiar. It's a kind of a familiar audience and demo, and then it crosses over and goes more mainstream. And even people like myself and like, obviously I'm not your target demo. I see some of the things you're doing. So that gets much bigger and you get much more visibility.

And then all of a sudden you have these people that have never commented about you commenting. I'm gonna feel strange. I imagine. Yeah, it sucks. I I hate I don't know I feel like I Definitely hear from a lot of people who are So much bigger than I will ever be That they don't read their comments and they just don't listen to that I'm like, I can't wait to maybe get there one day where I just don't read their comments and they just don't listen to that. And I'm like, I can't wait to maybe get there one day where I just don't care. But I definitely am not there yet.

I read every time. If I see my face on my For You page, I click it and I'm like, what did you guys have to say about me? And I'm like, oh, you guys are so mean. And it's like, first of all, I know you guys would never say this to my face. Well, maybe one of you would because you're that much of an asshole.

But these people have so many opinions. And I think the ones that get me the most are the ones that I think it's like an insecurity that I already had. And then somebody says it and I'm like, okay, fuck you. Like you did not need to go there. Like what? I don't know. Just when my face looks really bad because I get bad filler and people all have something to say about it.

I'm like, fuck you, okay? Your face doesn't look like you have bad filler. Okay, I didn't think so right now, but also the comments are gonna say that for sure. I feel like it's like, but the comments- Your face looks natural and pretty. I could have, they swear I have cheek filler in my cheeks right now and it's like a bit,

I'm like, I have chubby cheeks, look back at any photo of me, but things like that where I'm like, oh. Well, I can, in person, you look, in person. Thank you. I mean, I don't know what they're talking about with video, but in like that where I'm like, thank you. I don't know what they're talking about with video but in person you don't not look like you have bad filler at all or a lot of filler on your face. They are very well so after when I did this video haunts me but I did um the Forbes interview

right after I had just had a little bit of lip filler put in and I hated it so I had it I tried to have it dissolved but um I had to go to someone else because, you know, if you get it, you can't dissolve it that quickly. But I was like, let me just, let me just lie to this next person. Say I didn't get it. I mean, the person who did it won't do it won't take it out. Yeah, because they can't, they won't, they're not going to take it out that fast. So if anything, you have to just lie and say you didn't. I don't, it's not safe. When you got to remove that quick. Well, I just look stupid. So at Forbes, I looked, my lips look crazy. I know also, it's just like you guys, I know I look crazy. Shut up, okay? Let me just live.

But that video haunts me because I hate it so much, the interview. And it was a 45-minute interview I did with Forbes that day, so there's so many clips to be taken from it. And anytime that is on my For You page, I know all the comments are like, oh my gosh, this is what happens when you get too much money and you just...

It's so annoying, but people are very critical about my looks. They're critical about my body and just everything, and that definitely bothers me. For a long time, it was my boobs because from breastfeeding, I had two different size boobs. And people, then when I started, then they were just like bigger in the beginning So people have a lot to say about the fact that they're small now Because I stopped breastfeeding and the milk is well, I kind of still do but it's not a lot I understand that when you have a baby your body with me changes I don't get it your boobs fill with I know and it's no button there

My boobs grew like 80 sizes, and then they go back down after. And then they go back down. I don't really know why we have to explain our boobs though. I don't really like, let's look at your dick. Like, pull out your dick. Let's see your dick after a cold plunge, and then let's see, like these guys.

Honestly, with how much they have to say. Yeah, let's see your dick after a cold shower. Yeah. I'm sure it's not great. So I know, I don't remember what you were saying the other day, I don't know why guys would take girls on dates to go on the cold plunge. You know, like these guys, like let's do a cold shower yeah I know I don't remember we're saying the other day I don't know why guys would take girls on dates to go in the cold plunge you know like these get some guys like let's do cold I don't prefer to be around you when you're in the cold plunge I could use a break you could go by yourself I

don't know it's not my stronger so guys that are commenting on all these girls tits it's like show your penis what is it guys coming out first women aren't sitting maybe like one or two women out of a million. So it's guys. Yeah, guys have so much, because they were like, she would have never gone as viral if it weren't for her boobs, because in my interview with Marco, I had big boobs. They were full of milk, you guys. I don't know what to tell you.

It was milk boobs. It was not, it was not. You sure you loved that? No, like no one. But is there, in all fairness, maybe like, maybe like 5% viral credibility for the boobs? For the guys? Probably. If we're being honest.

No. 5%. No, it would have gone just as viral in this shirt. Let me tell you something. You just gave me a hot tip because when I'm done having this baby, I'm going to sit on TikTok with my big old udders and try to go viral. Do it. I'm a lot big right now.

Yours are like, what's going on? They're big. They're going to get hungry. It's called milk. Yeah, they're bringing... I don't know, you have to explain this to people. I know, it's crazy. It's not like rocket science.

No, but it's like, you know, like what if I came in like fully fluffed up with tight shorts for a video of ours? Like maybe we'd have a 5% chance of going more viral than if I... Why don't you try it? Put a little elbow grease into it. Let's put a note on that for the next social... Yeah, I'll show my huge milky boobs and you can show your... Do it.

Don't show it after a quick reset. Hey, I'm still going viral with no boobs. That's most after, so I don't know. Yeah, she's still going viral. That's not just a schtick. It's way more than boobs. So how do you now manage all that? Is it just like you kind of block it out, you don't read it or you do read it?

I mean, I heavily filter my own comments. Really? Oh yeah. You can't say ugly. You can't say, you shouldn't see my filters. My comment filters are like ugly Botox filler, but sometimes it's words that are like, I can, when I look at the comments and it's like,

it's like they were trying to say something so innocent, but I have that word blocked because I knew that it could be paired with something that was mean. Oh, I'm going to filter on our, on my account, filter the word unfollowing and unsubscribing. That would be perfect Do I? These people come in they make this fucking announcement to me all the time like unfollowing unsubscribing. I'm like, I don't need the note I just take it off. Don't give them that power. I give them less. So it's nice in my comments I'm like, oh you guys are so. And then I look at myself somewhere else

and I'm like, fuck you guys. I'm actually like, I saw a TikTok of myself like the other week and I was scrolling on my For You page and I saw this video and I was like, oh fuck, like what's she gonna say about me? It's gonna be so mean. And it was her just being so nice and all the comments were nice.

And I was like, where am I right now? This is so sweet. It is weird. Cause usually I go and I see myself and I was like, where am I right now? This is so sweet. It is weird, because usually I go and I see myself and I'm like, or I get tagged in something and it's just people shitting on me. Like, when is she just gonna disappear and blah, blah, blah, blah? And I'm like, why are you, people are just so bitter.

I'm like, you, they want, they're jealous, they're bitter. They have nothing going for them or they wouldn't be on the internet criticizing people. At no point in my life have I been on the internet criticizing people or announcing how much I hate people. Have inside thoughts. Have thoughts that you have with your friends. You don't need to announce it to me.

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because you said you're looking at unfollowing, unsubscribing, my advice is don't look at it. Oh, that's silly. But I want to read the good stuff. And to be fair, it has helped me. My comments have helped me throughout all of this. And I think that they're like... Like the critiques have helped you? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I take a lot of constructive criticism from what I put out there, the comments. So it's like, I get a lot of feedback from comments. And if I just stopped reading them, I wouldn't, I know when I'm something, especially through,

in the beginning, when something I'm doing is getting old and I need to just pivot, I would not know that if it weren't for reading the comments. So yeah, I just have to read a couple about how hideous I am and how I never see my children. That's their favorite thing to say. I never see my kids. It's so funny to funny when people say that.

They're like, when are you with your kids? I'm like, you see five minutes on my day on a 24 hour Instagram story. When am I? It's so wild. Have you guys ever thought that if I don't post my kids, then you're not seeing the times I'm with them. I'm not posting, I'm only posting when I'm not with them.

So of course you're not gonna see. I also don't want to put my kids all over all the time. Like if they don't, no one needs to see like like, my kids, like, first step and, like, them going to the bathroom. Like, I'm not, I don't need to, like, slap my kids all over so, like, the outside perception can take them to a good mom. So, they can see that I'm, yeah. I could sit there every day and show my morning routine and I'm sure that people would be

like, oh, look, she's an amazing mom or, you know, actually, no, they would be like, um, how you did this isn't safe and I don't like how you combed her hair there and what do you they would have so much to say they you'll never win but that's my biggest hate comment I get or or the number one thing that I see in every comment section is she left her kid on her first birthday to interview Drake. That is my, I'm like she, three days before her first birthday, I threw a huge birthday party for her because her birthday was not on a Saturday. I had all of our family there. She was one. She's not going to remember that. My parents worked on so many of my birthdays, but that is people's biggest critique of me is

that I left my daughter on her first birthday. Like that makes me a bad mom because I interviewed Drake on my daughter's first birthday. I would interview Drake on my daughter's first birthday and throw a party separately. Go ahead and judge that. I'm sorry like I don't see anything. By the way my daughter when she's like 21 would be like you I'm so happy you did that. You can celebrate the birthday a different day. I would not leave my daughter for Drake on her birthday. Just so you know, Zaza, when you're older and you hear this, your mother would leave you,

but your father would never leave you. You wouldn't. You've never worked on your birthday? No, I'm father of the year, number one. Okay, okay. Of course, but no, you know, listen, I think- You left our kids on Easter. You booked a trip on Easter. It was like towns his first Easter. I had the eggs ordered off Amazon

Zaz's dress was there. I had a bonnet. I had a ruffle bad to be fair to be fair I didn't realize that Easter switches days every year well and last year it was really confused me until Everyone's perfect and their grass is the greenest and everything's amazing in their yard, don't judge next door. Yeah. Well, it's been tough because I weigh how I parent based on the feedback from the internet. And you know, if depending on what the internet says about how I am as a

parent is how I get through the days. You know, every person that commented that would leave their, their daughter on their first day. I know. I've read. Interview first date. I know. I agree. It's an opportunity to take your career to the next level for you to make money in the long run.

It's called long run strategy. It's truly, even if I worked at McDonald's and my daughter had her birthday, I'm not going to, I have to work on her birth dates. She's also one. What part about she's one do they not they're saying first birthday I would imagine they know first means one one means they don't have any memory she can't tell me what she did the birthday that I spent all the money on throwing for her that she has no idea we have a

lot of pictures she's gonna look back at those photos and when she thinks of her first birthday she will think of those photos but for some reason people are like oh my god they really think they're doing something with that comment. I think that you just shouldn't look at the comments right when you wake up and right before you go to bed. I think you should create a space. At least if you're gonna look, I get why you have to look.

You have to pivot your content. But just pick a window of time in the day when you wanna be miserable. Just like one window of time. Michael wakes up sometimes and looks at Twitter and then goes to bed and looks at Twitter. And that's ending your day with negative news. No, but I don't get as, okay, I'm just gonna be honest.

I don't get as affected by the things that are said. I'm really sensitive. And I think... Not to comment. I'm sensitive to energy. Like if it's, I don't want to watch the news before I'm going into my dream state to do my strategy session while I sleep.

Here's the honest truth, and this will just come with time. I think the longer you do something where you put yourself out in front of people and you're doing something different than what the normal or average person does, like, you're creating some kind of show, you're doing some kind of creative outlet, or you're just saying things publicly

that most people won't say publicly, because that's what you do on the internet. Like, that comes with a certain kind of criticism and pushback and that's always gonna happen. As a matter of fact, like it's actually gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger. The longer- She has gotten it on a massive scale.

Very quickly. But the point is, is like you can't, over time, it just starts to mean less and less to you because it's like how many more mean things can you hear from somebody to the point where like, you know what I mean? It's like, you just kind of, your skin gets thicker and thicker and thicker.

Yeah. Who was your most awkward guest? Cause I know like the awkwardness is, who did you think was awkward? I'm naturally uncomfortable everywhere because I feel, I have just bad social anxiety. So naturally going into an, you don't feel awkward doing an interview.

It's so weird. I guess you're not getting into a character really either where you're, it's just a weird environment. I'm like snapping into this, this like blunt, dry personality that I'm trying not to smile or anything. And it's like, okay, all right, ready? And then immediately it's like, welcome to the really good podcast. And it's always awkward. And then the most awkward part ever is when you're done. You stop and you're like, alright, that's a wrap.

And then everybody is like, okay, let's be normal now. And like, it's just, it's a weird, it's such an awkward thing to do that every single episode is a little bit awkward. And after, has there been anyone that you, like the awkwardness has dissipated and you've been able to be friends with them and it's fine? I would say most of, like, 99, I don't even know, maybe 100%.

I feel like every person I interview I become somewhat of friends with afterward. So it's fine after it's over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's just the actual act of doing it is so, it's just uncomfortable for both of us. We're sitting there and it's like people are watching, we're usually doing some sort of activity or something. And it's just, yeah, so, but I definitely afterward talk to everyone, it's normal. Before we usually talk and it's normal.

It's just that shift on where you're a bit weird. Do they have any kind of prep in terms of the direction you're gonna take it in? They've got to. Mark Cuban's not gonna just go on a random podcast. Well, they see the episodes prior. They kind of have an idea. Yeah. But yeah, they, either they pick the location or I pick the location or someone on my team

throws out an idea for the location. They know that it's just gonna be an awkward, uncomfortable... But they also do know that they have Final Cut, and I never let... I never put anything out there that the guest is uncomfortable. I think that's why I also become friends with... It's not something where I'm trying to... catch anyone saying something.

I'm never gonna try to go viral off of somebody saying something. I know how uncomfortable it can be going on other people's podcasts or doing interviews where you have no control over it. And then mine... You signed that release of ours. I didn't sign anything actually. I'm just kidding. But I just, I know how uncomfortable it can be.

So I try to be very, okay, I'm, I don't know, you do whatever part you wanna take out, if you wanna take out all of it, whatever you wanna do, it's fine with me. It makes the person feel comfortable. Yeah, so they know when they go in that they can be free to do whatever they want because they can take out anything they want to. And that means, even if that means they're like,

I don't like how I said yeah right there, or I don't like how I looked like this, I'm like, all right, we'll cut it. I will sit there and make sure that everything that they want. Do you cut it? No. You have someone cutting. Yeah.

But we use, um, what is it called? Frame? Where? Yeah. So they can go in, they go in and put in their notes and then my editor will go in and take out whatever they say. That's unique. But it's a different kind of format because like here, we're just like

shooting the shit and having a conversation and again We don't try to make anyone uncomfortable either, but I imagine in that format like For the people going it's just different for those people as well. It's like a different kind of interview Well, I think that's why I get in her people that don't really do interviews because they don't I get it I don't as someone who's done a lot of interviews now Are done podcast and done other you know interviews now, um, are done podcasts and done other, you know, uh, I am like, oh my God, that is, I get why people don't like doing that or why they don't really want to go on a traditional press run

because it's intimidating. And then also because a lot of people try to catch you saying stuff that. It's funny with like that format. So I think you can get people's story and you can get a lot of what is quote unquote, press worthy without trying to take people out. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah.

And you don't have to talk about their breakups or their anything if they're not. Their kids, their families. Exactly. I only talk about what they bring up and then, and I never try to pry into anything that I think unless I have talked to them beforehand and I'm like, hey, are you okay with this conversation? And then we'll kind of go there. But sometimes I just take whole conversations out about certain things. And that's why you can be more comfortable when we do mine too,

because it's, which it's funny, it's awkward, but it's also comfortable. And people say that I show a side of people that people don't often get to see. Um, but you can say whatever you can get really into the conversation. Cause you know, if you want to cut all of that out, it's just, it's going to go. Yeah. We always say like people, you know, you need to have vulnerable conversations. Or else people tune out. Like nobody wants somebody to come on and just talk about how great they are.

Yeah. But at the same time, like you don't have to do something. That makes someone. to come on and just talk about how great they are. But at the same time, like you don't have to do something to cause harm. That makes someone, yes, yeah. Especially like I get super fired up when people start going at people's personal lives and their families, especially their kids. Like whenever I see any of these clickbait publications

talking about people's children or how they are as parents, like that stuff just bothers me because there's so much more you can get from an individual and their story without going after people who are kind of like innocent in that story, whether it's their family or their kids. It's just low hanging fruit. Yeah, it's just like, you know,

and I also think it's just lazy journalism. Yeah. In a way where it's like that's just stuff. Yeah, and it's just, it's boring. Nobody needs to know all those things that, I don't know. For people that are doing or trying to follow on a similar path that you've done now for your career, what are things you wish that you knew earlier? Like you've obviously now built a brand and you're building a business around everything that you've created.

Are there things that looking back you would have done differently or you would caution people against as they start to potentially build a career for themselves? I mean, I think I did it in a way that I wouldn't change anything. I never put too much money into it. I never, I didn't go out of my way. I know a lot of people start podcasts and kind of throw money at it and be like, I never did that. I kind of, my first episode was recorded

at a little studio I found in LA and I would drive to LA and film inside of there. It was $300 to film it. I think that it's just good if you have an idea. It's the same thing with if you have an idea for a product just to kind of test it. That's what I did. And I think use your resources.

I would ask all of my mutuals to be guests on my podcast when it first started. I was like anybody I could think of, just do you wanna come on? Can I interview you? Mutuals meaning people that were following. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That we maybe had one or two conversations

on the app itself before. But yeah, I was just asking anyone. I think just also putting yourself out there. I have always put myself out there and I'm not afraid of rejection. And I think that that's something that's huge is just not being afraid of rejection to shoot your shot. I've asked so many people, I still get guests in a similar way. I mean, it's easier obviously now I have people who help me book. But if there's someone I'm like, oh, I would really love to interview, I send a DM and I think just back to what I said earlier,

not being afraid to look stupid. I was not afraid to look stupid. I wasn't afraid to look desperate. I put, I was paying people to get people on there. I used to do things like that on TikTok all the time. I'd be like trying to get brands to comment or just, you know, just doing anything I could. Cause it's like, I was, you have to be okay with looking stupid and embarrassing yourself.

I think one thing you've done really good throughout this whole episode is exposure therapy. Like you put yourself out there, then you would delete it if it didn't go. Yeah. It's like, you keep doing it. You start to get like almost like numb where you just don't get to show up.

Yeah, where you don't care anymore I know people used to call me out for it They'd be like why have you posted the same video ten times today? And I'm like because I know this video can be viral and I'm going to keep trying it until it goes viral And you guys can just shut up and I would make a story that would be like if you see me post the same thing ten Times be quiet. It's like a timing thing or just certain people that it reached? Like what? No, uh, just changing the, the caption, changing the every, like moving it around,

cutting off a few seconds, maybe starting it on a different word. When I knew a video had potential to be viral, I just had to, but sometimes I would be so confident a video had the potential to go viral and I'd post it 10 times and then it wouldn't not work. And I would be like, all right, well... That's super interesting. So you would take, like say it was a 60 second clip and you would post it and if it didn't go viral,

you would go change the caption and try that or you would cut the format up, but it would be the same exact piece of content. Yeah, it'd be the same video, but I've now altered it 10 times. We need to take notes on that. That's like a strategist. When I listen to that, I imagine what most people do is they take the time, they create that, it doesn't work, and they're like, man, it didn't work, and then they just stop trying with it.

It's like all that effort's gone. Most people, that's 99% of people. I know, I had a friend, and she posted this one video on TikTok, and she didn't have, um, like, she doesn't have a lot of followers or anything. And I watched the video, and I was like, delete that right now. And she was like, why? And I was like, that can go viral.

I promise you, it can go viral. And it wasn't. It wasn't. It was a gap. It was up for three days. It had no views. And I was like, delete it And I was like, that can go viral. I promise you it can go viral. And it wasn't, it wasn't, it was a gap. It was up for three days. It had no views. And I was like, delete it, cause I want to edit it and put it back up. And it's at seven million views now. And I knew watching that video that it could go viral.

I know when something is capable. Tell us about the video. So it was my friend Ashley. She posted a video giving her dad a, like she's an aesthetician. So she was giving her dad a facial and in's an esthetician, so she was giving her dad a facial and then he's telling a story and I was watching it and I was like, oh, this is such a good story. I just knew when I watched that video, it had the potential to go viral.

So I had her take it down and I think that what I changed was the caption. And I, it was something, I have my phone somewhere. It was something to the, I think that I had changed it to say, what did I change it to? I don't know what it was to begin with, to be honest, but I think maybe she just had, she definitely just had like a different caption and I went in and I just put on. Shit, we need to

Captions Michael is the core of it that you just knew that it was a solid piece of content Yeah, so this was the video. Oh, I changed it to giving my dad a facial And that's it. That's all I changed. I don't know. That's it. What is it see before that? I don't think it had a caption. So just Wait the caption you you're talking about the thing on top of the video. Oh, yeah, sorry. What is that called? Yeah, the onscreen text.

Got it. Okay, I thought you meant the caption. No, well, I'll do that sometimes too. But yeah, I knew it was, I'm like, it's like... Ooh, it looks good though. A great facial. Yeah, that's a great facial. That's a great facial. No, but it's super interesting because like, I think about like the amount of effort that's a great facial. You should go to her. That's a great facial.

No, but super interesting because I think about the amount of effort that it takes to go and create any of this stuff and then just waste it and do that again. And then just to waste it because you're like, oh, that was silly and nobody watched it. And it's like that video very well could have sat at nothing. But I think you know sometimes, right? This is a good piece of content. You are going to, I need the algorithm to pick it up. I know people, if it got on the right people's For You page,

they would want to see this. And it's getting it on that person's For You page, which if that means saying something stupid, right? Like, I don't know. So my example that I told you where I deleted it so many times and it finally ended up getting 20 million views on my like 10th time. It had no views and by no views it had like a hundred K, 50 K and I was like that's so stupid I know this could get

20 million it was a video I did with Michael Buble in the very beginning of my like maybe a year into my career on TikTok. It wouldn't go viral though I could not get it to go viral I could only get it to get a couple hundred thousand views. And I just kept changing. I changed the caption to something stupid. And it was like, I can't believe I spent a million dollars

on this meet and greet. So just a lie that made it go viral. And it was like, people in the comments were like, oh my God, she spent that much money to see him. I'm like, you guys think I have a million dollars to spend on a meet and greet for Michael Buble? Like, what are you guys crazy? But like, if 20 million views from from not going viral at all just to changing that,

got it. The overlay or the caption? You said that. I don't know. What the little bottom thing? The bottom thing. So the caption. Yeah, I don't know. Lexi, what do you refer to as the one on screen? I would call that like the caption. Yeah. I would call it a caption and like a description. I don't know Lexi. What do you refer to as the one on screen? I would call that like the caption. Yeah Okay, I would call it a caption and like a description. I don't know like that's the description Don't ask me. Oh So I call the one on the I call the one on the screen the caption description It's a description of the video. Nobody's like reading that first right? I'm just like your eyes are gonna go to that's what I would refer to first that's going to go to your eyes. I'm just like your eyes are going to go to that's what I would refer to it too. The hell do we know Lauren.

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How does the mom version of you differ than to your social media? Like, what's the differences of how you are as a mom and how you are as a content creator? I don't know. I feel like I'm pretty chilled and laid back in all aspects of my life. I'm pretty chill and laid back mom. I'm like very, and laid back mom. I'm like very, I'm, but I'm research based. So I guess it's the same where everything me and my kid's dad do is research based.

And we, I'm okay with constructive criticism. I don't know, you know, I think it's pretty similar across all bars. Obviously they don't get like a stale version of me where I'm at home and I'm like, I'm not gonna smile guys. They don't know that side of me, but yeah where I'm at home and I'm like, I'm not gonna smile guys. They don't know that side of me but yeah I'm just like chill laid-back mom I don't know I don't have but I'm also very well researched and all the chill things I do I just because I believe that it's to be best for them.

Do you mean like you're like looking at what's in their diapers like cleaning supplies what do you mean? Research. I mean like, um, parenting styles and no, so their dad reads a lot of books. Are you going to say like you're specific with ingredients, like maybe like what you feed them? No, I'll see. No, you're not going to do that. I am, but not to an extreme. I feel like it's, I'm not going to stop them from eating anything in the, it's so

hard, you know, like if they go to Disneyland, they're going to eat a churro and a bag of Doritos. It is what it is. I'm gonna have to ask AI what this means later. I talked to my AI and it tells me everything now. What means? What research-based parenting means. Yeah, what does it explain? It's just, were you research?

What do you mean? That's truly like- She's saying parenting styles. Like- Yeah, you're- Like how- The parents are gentle, what's it called? called? I'm sitting with Bobby Althoff What does research based parenting mean?

Please answer me the same way Bobby Althoff would how can that content go viral what he just said? What caption should we put on it? I have to see it. Please answer me now clipped You know anything that we can clip in this episode and I'm sure a caption Maybe you guys can tell me what we should clip so we can go viral. Just make fun of me, call me ugly. No, I don't think you're ugly at all. Okay, that doesn't mean-

By the way, anyone that's calling her ugly needs to like figure it out. What is that, a troll with no picture? And I'm telling you, do you wanna go viral? They love to call me ugly, so call me ugly. Look, I'm giving you my permission right now. You are literally the opposite of ugly. I'm giving you my permission right now.

I'm giving you, be like, I sat down with the ugliest guest I've ever had. Do you wanna go viral or not? No, I don't think I can do that. I don't think I can do that. What is the challenge? What if I said the prettiest guest we've ever had? What's the challenge?

No, but see, you never wanna do that because that's not just gonna, you're now inviting all the comments to shit on me. That's what you're doing by saying that. They're gonna sit there and be like, you're not the prettiest, what the fuck is that about? No, you say the ugliest and then you, you'll get the guys who think I'm ugly,

but then they'll be like girls that are like, that's so rude. So if I said, you are the ugliest guest I've ever spoken to on this show. Yeah. That's gonna go viral. That's gonna do it. We put- You're not, you're not, trust me,

there's been some bongos on this show. But guess not, you're not. Trust me, there's been some ungos on this show. So if I say prettiest, it's not gonna get any pick up? No, it will, it will. I'm just saying the thought. Go ahead, say that actually. All the people are going to immediately be tearing them apart in the comments is all I'm saying. Bonnie, welcome to the show. The most beautiful, gorgeous, prettiest guest that has ever sat on the him and her show No, those two to proppy. Yeah, you got a

Be like look at me and just be like should I like? Honestly, you have to be the prettiest guest I've ever had on like I'm sounding like I'm getting you to say this cuz I To me, I don't believe this. I don't Radio voice off. Honestly, you are the most beautiful guest we've ever had on the show. But now followed up with everyone else was really ugly or something.

Just make it really mean. It has to be a little bit shocking, you know? Yeah, okay. Are you trying to go viral or not? Yeah, yeah. Everyone else we've had on the show is really ugly. Well, don't make it so you have to cut the clip, start it over.

You have to start the whole thing over. Oh, my God, you guys. This is a lot of work. I'm sweating. We're gonna leave all this in, just so that... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are the most beautiful guest we've ever had on the show. And honestly, everyone else that we've had on has been really ugly. That was so weird of you to say. Why would you?

Don't compare me to your other guests, please. I don't really want to do that right now. See, there you go. We have had Cindy Crawford on the show. That's crazy. You're going to get Cindy. I'm sorry. Is that like the thing that they come after you the most for is the looks? It's no, it's everything.

Oh, it's everything. They just, they love date. They love date. I feel like that's the worst thing. No, it's my personality is annoying. I'm annoying, why am I still trying? I'm a horrible mom. At least they're talking about you.

I honestly, yeah, cause when it's too quiet, I'm like, excuse me, where are my haters at? Now I'm falling off. You know what it is, and this is gonna maybe like ruin some of the shtick for you, is that what you do, I know is not effortless, but it looks effortless and it looks like it just happened by accident. And so people look at that and they're like, well, this is not fair that this person is just having all of this by accident.

I do think the thought is a large part. A lot of people think, I mean, that was when that whole industry plant rumor started, people just thought, oh, this girl woke up, got handed this opportunity, and why can't that happen to me? And it's like, don't get me wrong, I've gotten lucky a lot, but I've also put in so much work to get lucky, and I put myself in places to get lucky all the time. You guys aren't doing that.

You're not, it's not as easy as if I just stop right now, right? And I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna let everything I'm gonna let my podcast just kind of like, I'm just gonna do the bare minimum. I will be so irrelevant in three minutes. I am not have to keep working towards gaining relevance, staying relevant. Anyone you see that stays in the spotlight for they're working at it every day. I forgot that they thought you were an industry plant. I saw that. So they thought that someone from Hollywood. Yeah well and then you know what I did actually I did an interview with Belvin, Jay Belvin and in it I was in character and I go, yeah, I got a call.

It was so dumb. I was like, yeah, I got a call actually one day from the industry. I don't even know what the fuck the rumor is like or what the idea is of that, but I was like, yeah, I got a call one day and they said, give me your first born. I had something so stupid,

like give me your first born child and exchange for fame. And that's what I did. The comments were like, I fucking told you guys, I told you that's what happened. And I was like, oh, you guys. So yeah, it happened. They're like, she sold her soul.

Like, okay. So people actually thought like Hollywood, the doc. I guess is that what an industry plan is? I think it's, I think actually I take it. Maybe I'm an industry plan. Maybe I am. No, I think what it is. I told you not to talk about this stuff. It's me, I did it. No. I think what it is- I told you not to talk about this stuff.

It's me. I did it. Well, I think what it is is when someone spots you maybe and starts putting a lot of money into you, right? Like in the industry, they're like, oh, I see a star rising. Let me throw a lot of money into you. I think that is from what I gather what it kind of is. But at no point did anybody throw large amounts of money or any amount of money at me.

I have been doing this with my- Really, if I was a plant anybody throw large amounts of money or any amount of money at me. I have been doing this with my- Really, if I was a plant, I'm missing the money part of it. I'm missing the part where they just- I'm like, the money that I've had, I have worked for, I've gotten, don't get me wrong again, I always have to add that because I know what people are going to say. They're like, you have the easiest job. This is so much easier than a nine to five.

This is so much easier than anything else, but it doesn't, it doesn't just come to me either. I still have to work for it. She's not an industry plant, you guys. I know that's going to be hard. We don't know that. I don't think she is. I'm really good at like, you're really good at reading people. Yeah.

I'm just really good at like sussing out plants. I think I would know if it was a plant. I'm just telling you, I would know. I want to tell the internet, I would know if she was a plant and she's not. Lauren will establish herself as an expert in any field at any given notice. Good for her. Good for me. That's a confidence that is important.

I'm multifaceted. What do you want me to say about it? She does it. You should go work for the government. Okay. She does it all. I have to ask you about your beauty tips. My beauty tips for the government. Okay. She does it all. I have to ask you about your beauty tips.

My beauty tips? I know. After you called me ugly? That's crazy. What's your hair, skin, nails, wellness, what are your tips? My skin, well, I don't know guys, I have acne, so I don't know, guys. I have acne. So I don't know if you want tips from me. People are always like, your skin's so clear.

I'm like, you guys, this is how filtered TikTok is. It's good sometimes. I will say for like one week out of... It looks great. It's okay right now. But this is a... I have dealt with acne since I was 12 years old. And on a good day, I can like have, you know, under 10 zits on my face that's a great day for me and like oh my god I can

count them that's amazing but my beauty tip is like I haven't figured it out yet for skin but I do wear sunscreen every day because I'm not gonna age at least I will just have acne. You want to look 27 at 38. Exactly. Yeah, I wear sunscreen. You must. You have no anything. Your skin is just perfect. Well, I really work at my skin. Like a nut.

Do you? What do you do? I get facials once a week. I'll be back in an hour. I go every two weeks. Okay, so I mean you're doing it. I do everything. Oh, I should not have a single zit on my face. I try everything.

I take all the vitamins. I drink all the spearmint tea. But I think I'm finally turning a new... Is that a new leaf? Is that the saying? It is. I'm turning a new leaf on my skin. It's starting to become healthier. I'm just following so many things

and actually staying with them. I started taking spearnolactone, and I'm taking that every day. Started trying no-in on my skin. I'm like, I'm not playing with them. I started taking Spirulactone and I'm like taking that every day. Started trying no one on my skin. I'm like, I'm not playing with it. But what are the products that you like right now? Right now? I feel like I mostly use Jan Marini. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good brand. Really good brand. I would say that's mainly what I use. And then um, a la Roche stuff like their lotion. I feel like you're doing everything right. Oh, I am. Tell my pores that.

I need to get you an ice roller though. We have one for you. You need an ice roller. Is this an ice roller? Especially if you ever have a pimple, it's so cooling. Okay. I'll take all the free things. I love, I'll never. We have some free things for you. I'll never be above getting free stuff.

I have some balls for your face. What the fuck is that? They're balls that you put on your face in the morning and they contour your face? That's so interesting. I have some mouth tape for you. You know, I have that at home I've never used it at no point. Do I just want to like stop being able to talk at night? Oh, you've never lived with my husband. Are you kidding me? Well, you don't want to just shut it off like you know well When I have like the nights my kids are with me, they'd sleep in my bed. So.

Yeah, but they go to bed before you. Yeah, and then I fall, no, they fall asleep. We fall asleep at the same time. Oh. 8.30. My daughter's first words when I open my eyes is, mom, can you take your mouth tape off? Oh my gosh, no, I can't.

I can't imagine. I fall asleep with my kids. I don't know how parents make it out after that, you know? I've never been one that can make it out after bedtime. I've never- Like go out to the club? No, out of the room. Out of the bed.

Well, yeah, I'm a 7-30, 8-30 kind of gal. Yeah, as soon as my kids fall asleep, I don't care. That's why I have to wash my face before I start putting them to sleep, because I'm so good at putting them to sleep, I put myself to sleep. Those stories, they just hit. The songs I sing, they just get me to... I get it. When my kids fall asleep, I'm like, ugh! Okay.

What can we expect for you? Like, what's the next chapter you said your second series comes out? Is that what you call it, a series? No, season. Season. Your second season comes out. A fourth, but yeah. Fourth?

Yeah. Nice. Good research, Lauren. Great research. Good job. Ah, guys, I thought you said your second. No. Your fourth season.

That would be one really long season I've had. Your show comes out on Thursday. Yes. Okay. So what can we expect? A lot of... You know, I'm trying to go back more to the original, which was just a bit more...

I feel like I got out of character for a minute there, for a few episodes. I was just being... I don't know, I just got out of character. I started to get... I guess, I don't know what the word would be, but insecure of the character because of comments, right?

Because they're like, oh, that person's rude. She's whatever. But then I realized that's what grew on my page. And that's what is fun to do. And it's obviously not me. And the guest isn't on it. So I've gotten back into just being more blunt again and just having it be more of a character and cutting it down to those. So if I'm editing a podcast and there's, like,

too much of us being normal and, like, cut, that can't go in it. I think that's good. You're owning the character. And let me give you the reverse. They're like, she's so nice. Or they don't say anything. You, like, want to, like, spark a reaction in them. Yeah.

I think you should be as mean as you want. It's a character. It's gonna happen again you guys know that I live in fear of like Saying the wrong thing that could get clipped wrong But I cuz I'm like I don't want to have an opinion that people disagree with ever which is hard Where can everyone find you a slide into your DMS flirt with you? Oh, I love this Where can they slide into my DMs? I don't know.

I feel like everyone meets people like that. That's how I'm going to meet my future. You're going to slide into someone's DMs. No, they're going to slide into mine. Good. You like the guy to court you. That would be great. Yeah. It's pretty rare.

It's slim pickings out there right now. Guys don't think they have to court girls anymore. I don't agree. I feel like that's common, right? Guys slide into people's DMs. I don't know. That's how I imagine it all. She's saying she wants to be courted and she wants guys to slide into.

I've turned off DMs from people without verified accounts because I was like, I don't know. Oh, so they have to be verified. Yes, but anybody can be, right? Don't you just verify now by paying to be like a per... Yeah, but I just eliminated all the mean people. Like people who are generally are like DMing mean things do not pay the amount. Not if there was a guy that has a hundred followers with barely any posts that's amazing that's not verified.

Then I might just have to turn that feature off for him. Yeah, you never know. No, it's just he'll have to find me some other way. You never know. I don't leave my house ever so I don't know how besides someone. I don't know. DMs I feel like will be hot for you. Do you? Yeah I feel like your DMs are hot. Like I feel like there's a lot going on. Do you? Yeah she can't give us space. For sure. I just feel like that's the new age of. Let him, tell him to get in line. Get in line guys. We've covered a lot of ground.

Bobby, you're great on a mic. Come back any time you want. I'm gonna get you some mouth tape and... Did you just read that? No, did it look like I did? Yeah, kind of. But fully, I was like, we wrote that? No.

We wrote, Bobby, you're great. I was like, do you have a script? No, just no. Thank you for coming in and doing this. Congratulations on everything. Thank you for coming in and doing this. Congratulations. Thank you for having me. Season four, go check it out. Do I get all of that stuff?

You can have whatever you want. Let's get you all kinds of stuff. You said in the beginning that you wanted free stuff that influencers have, so I'm going to make you a big goodie bag. Oh, I would love a big goodie bag. Thank you. I appreciate it. All of my favorite products, mouth tape, brow peptide to grow my brows and lashes,

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