The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Camila Coelho On Her Struggle With Epilepsy, Entrepreneurship, & How She Went From Working At A Department Store To Building A Global Brand
Episode Date: December 22, 2020#315: On this episode we are joined by Camila Coehlo. Camila is a celebrity influencer, entrepreneur, and founder of Elaluz. On this episode we discuss how Camila got her start as an influencer who ev...entually turned into an entrepreneur and brand founder. We discuss the struggles Camila has overcome in her life and how she has lived and thrived with epilepsy. We also discuss how she went from working at a department store to building and founding a global brand. To connect with Camila Coelho click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by No Days Wasted Their hero product is called DHM Detox, which is the vitamin for people who like to enjoy their drinks. It’s designed to help you bounce back the next day. Get 20% off your order and free shipping in the US. Just head over to www.NoDaysWasted.CO/SKINNY and use promo code "SKINNY” at checkout This episode is brought to you by Canopy Canopy is a completely reimagined humidifier that elevates your home for the ultimate in skincare and wellness benefits. Skincare experts and dermatologists have long touted the benefits of increased indoor humidity for healthy, glowing skin. Canopy’s features and design make it the cleanest and easiest humidifier out there go to www.getcanopy.co to save $25 on your Canopy purchase today when you opt in to a replacement filter subscription. Use code SKINNY10 at checkout to save an additional 10% off your Canopy purchase. This episode is brought to you by Wealthfront No One is great at something the first time they try it. And if you’re unfamiliar with investing, getting started can be intimidating. Wealthfront does the work for you, so you can invest like an expert from the beginning. Right now, you can visit www.wealthfront.com/SKINNY to get your first $5,000 managed for FREE, for life! Produced By Dear Media
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She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
Fantastic.
And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie.
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
Get ready for some major realness.
Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.
Aha! Him and her. People with a voice and a platform, it's very important that we share our struggles, that we share, you know, the things we go through so that, you know, people who are watching us know that, you know, we're just like them and that their life is okay.
Like we all go through struggles.
We all go through difficult things.
I've been trying to do that a lot.
Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. That clip was from our guest of the
show today, Camilla Coelho. She is an entrepreneur, the founder of a new up and coming beauty line,
and she's an epilepsy ambassador and board member. You also might recognize her from Instagram
because she has 9 million followers, which is
crazy. She's a badass and she really opens up on this episode. And I'm here for it because
I am in the fifth dimension. You're already there. Yeah. Have you heard about this, Michael?
You've been telling me about it. I don't know if I want to go or not. I've been pretty good here.
And what are we in the third or the fourth? Zaza and I are going to the fifth dimension. Does anyone know what we're talking about? Because I don't know what I want to go or not. I've been pretty good here. And what are we in the third or the fourth? Zaza and I are going to the fifth dimension.
Does anyone know what we're talking about?
Okay.
Because I don't know what we're talking about.
So on the 21st, there was a great awakening.
Okay.
I think I'm going to probably flub this.
All the planets were aligned and something with the sun and the stars.
And it's never been like this in the entire world.
No, that's not true.
I think it's been like this like 200 years ago.
Wait, how do I know more about this than you?
You don't even know what we're talking about.
I just know that there's a great awakening happening
and you are supposed to ascend.
Ouch, looks like you're not going to make it
if you don't even know when or what it's about.
I'm in the fifth dimension.
No, I think you might've got left behind.
I've been here for a while, I think.
No, so today and yesterday,
we're supposed to meditate, write down our intentions, charge
our crystals, get really good sleep, eat organic food, drink water.
This is a real thing.
So you're supposed to do that stuff pretty much every day, right?
No, but this is different.
Oh, it's different.
It's a great awakening.
Okay.
So I'm speaking to you guys from the fifth dimension.
Zaza and I are already there.
Michael, I don't know if you made it.
I don't know if I want to make it. I either made it and I'm there and everything's fine
or I didn't and everything's fine. That's how I feel.
Well, Zaza and I will be there. Boone's there too. Boone is for sure ascending.
Wait, hold on. I'm getting a message from the seventh dimension. I'm already in the seventh,
Lauren. The fifth. I skipped the fifth. I skipped the fifth, sixth. I'm in the seventh.
Okay. I can't. So one of the reasons that I really respect Camilla as an influencer is that she started her own company. And I think
there's not enough talk about that in the influencer space because as a creator, you're
essentially self-employed working for yourself, but it's a whole nother layer to build your own
company. Michael and I've been having these conversations all the time
because you get back your time when you build a company.
Maybe not at first, but overall longevity, you get your time back.
Well, I think one thing to define this is,
as an influencer or creator, you can have a quote unquote company.
But to me, that's a little bit more like a solopreneur, right?
The whole business is reliant on you. If if you stop creating or you stop doing like the
business falls apart. To me, a company is something that's an organization of people
that's not reliant on one person that could be built and transferred as an asset to somebody
else and also can run while you're not a part of it. Like you can go somewhere, someone like
Lauren could go somewhere and the company keeps running without her. As an influencer, it's hard because essentially you have your own company, but
you're a solopreneur and all of the work is dependent on you. And if you take off and stop
creating, then the whole business falls apart. So to me, a company, not to take anything away
from creators, is an entity that you can build that is not solely dependent on you, that you
can transfer to another owner if need be. And that's what Camilla did.
She created Ella Luz and it's clean, cruelty-free, vegan, gluten-free beauty. Okay. It's available
at Net-A-Porter, Revolve and Saks. It's absolutely gorgeous. They have this magical oil. She has like
this lip balm that's super glittery. Definitely check it out on Instagram. It's at Ella Luz.
And she's also obviously still a creator
and then she also has a clothing line okay you can buy this on revolve super cute clothes she's
crushing it and i have always loved when influencers and creators in our space take it to another level
because it opens up space for everyone right so terry cru, there's a story that he says on Tim Ferriss. He was driving
down Sunset and he saw a huge billboard of Tom Cruise. And in it, Tom Cruise was in this huge
movie and Terry noticed that he was automatically jealous. And then he realized it's actually an
amazing thing that Tom Cruise was in this superstar hit movie because it opened up more space for men
actors.
I look at the influencer space in the same way. I just feel like she's breaking barriers,
opening new doors, and it's very exciting. So with that, let's welcome Camilla, entrepreneur,
badass, founder to the show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her.
I'm so excited who we're in the studio with today because
i feel like this episode is going to be so aspirational and inspirational you grew up in
brazil yes let's go way back and like before you were this like bomb-ass business woman tell us
about your childhood okay thank you i'm so happy to be here with you guys. I have
like a vibrator next to me. I have a whole thing going on here. Going back to Brazil, I'm really
proud of like where I come from, my childhood days. I grew up in a very small town of Brazil,
the state of Minas Gerais, a town where like everybody knows each other like very small
where i had very limited access to like things in the world in general but i was very free i
remember like going out to my grandfather's farm and like going up the mango tree and like chatting
with my cousins and i was just like a very free child growing up surrounded by nature
and, you know, playing outside all the time.
And I've always, I was always a beauty lover.
It was in my blood.
My passport photo when I was six years old, I had a red lipstick on,
a bold red lipstick on that I got from my grandmother.
But yeah, growing up in this small town in Brazil in general,
like the warm culture, I have so many amazing memories of it and then I moved to the U.S. when I was 14 with my family
seeing my mom work so hard after a divorce a tough divorce inspired me to be independent early
coming from such a small town and a humble background really gave me
strength to like, almost like, you know, you move to America, this whole new world, new language,
new everything. And I've always like, I've always been very proud to be Brazilian the way I grew up.
But, you know, after I moved to the US, I just really wanted to be independent the way I grew up. But after I moved to the US,
I just really wanted to be independent.
And I think it was by looking at my mom
and what she was doing to raise her kids
that really inspired me to be independent early.
I'm so proud that I was raised in Brazil
and I'm proud of my country.
And yeah, I always try to like, whenever I'm meeting someone, I'm proud of my country and yeah I always try to like you know whenever I'm meeting
someone I'm like yeah I'm from Brazil you know like I'm so proud. What are some things that you
miss about Brazil? I miss the food number one a lot I mean I try to to cook Brazilian food here
I always do my pão de queijo which I should have brought to you guys it's amazing it's like a
cheesy bread I don't like to yeah I don't like to call it cheese bread because I want to like, you know, people
to know what pão de queijo is, but it's amazing. I'll bring it in next time, I promise. The food
and family. I have a huge family in Brazil. Like I have 40 cousins only on my dad's side.
Yeah, it's a lot of us. And yeah, I miss family a lot,
but I tried to go to Brazil at least three times a year.
What were the circumstances behind the move?
Like, why did you guys decide to come to the U.S.
when you were so young?
It was my mom's decision, really.
I remember my parents together.
It was, you know, great.
But then, unfortunately, they got divorced
and things got really hard on
on my mom on us we no longer had the support of my dad as we used to and you know my mom had
her brother living here in the us with restaurant business and she decided to move really to provide
us a better life and it was here in California or? No, it was,
it was in Scranton, Pennsylvania. So I lived there for four years. I mean, that's a big contrast
compared to Scranton and Brazil. Imagine like Brazil, tropical going to Scranton. I felt like
an outcast really when I, but I had great memories of Scranton, like high school,
but it was really hard for me in
the beginning for sure to like fit in you know what was your first job my first job was at a
restaurant as a bus girl do you say bus girl bus girl am I pronouncing that right yeah I think so
yeah like you I'm like I mom I just need a job and I was like waiting for that moment to like
be able to get a job because I heard this is not common in Brazil to like work when you're in school, but it's very
common in America, right? And I was talking to one of my friends in school, they're like, yeah,
I'm getting a part time job. And I remember I was like applying for cheerleading at the time. And I
gave up the cheerleading because I didn't want to work like I saw my mom working so hard. And I just wanted, I felt bad, like asking her for money on the weekends. And she told me,
she's like, Camila, you're way too young. You don't need to, like, we're fine. And I'm fine,
like giving you money on the weekends. But I wanted to have that taste of independence.
Like it was already in me. And my first job was I applied at a restaurant and, um,
I was like, okay. And then I noticed I was like, you know,
cleaning off the tables, like getting the dirty plates out, like carrying this bucket of heavy
plates around, but I was happy. Like I was, I felt proud of myself that I was independent at like,
probably 16. I was 15, 16. I don't know, I think it was 15 or 16 that I could work.
So yeah, that was my first job I heard
a rumor that you used to work behind the counter I want to say Nordstrom's is that true so yeah so
that was my first job after high school I worked at a Dior counter at Macy's the department store
which is so incredible because don't you now work with Dior as a brand as an influencer so it's really full circle really full circle and you don't want to know a really forced full
circle story Dior was the first brand to invite me to Paris for the Haute Couture show so I was
sitting front row with Dior and that moment I remember 2014 I could like cry that day because
you know really my story with social media started behind the counter.
It was, you know, from working at that counter, hustling there, that I decided to become a makeup artist.
I saw how empowering and transformative beauty is by working at that counter.
You know, you're like people from different backgrounds with different needs will arrive and they will all walk out with a
smile on their faces and that that was the best part of my day I hated the retail hours I hated
you know like retail was tough and I was hustling but that made my day each every single day like
at that counter so I decided to become a makeup artist and it was during my makeup artist years
that I found social media I found YouTube and I finally created my first YouTube video.
This is back in 2010.
I want you to talk on it a little bit because I think there's a lot of people that will look at you and the platform you've built and look at Lauren, the platform she's built, and they'll start to compare themselves as to where they are now compared to where you guys are now.
But they forget that it's many, many years of work and under circumstances, too, when you guys didn't have the resources you have now. But they forget that it's many, many years of work and under circumstances too,
when you guys didn't have the resources you have now. I mean, you were working another job and
basically doing social as a side hustle, correct? Exactly. And I want you to talk about that because
I think it's aspirational and also inspirational for people to learn like no matter where they are,
they can get started and work towards, you know, what you've built. 2010, people were using YouTube
to watch music videos, right? And
I remember when I saw this one video, I was there to watch a music video. And then this one video
popped up, which was Kandi Johnson at the time. She's actually from LA. Love her. And this girl
was like teaching me. I was watching the video, right? So teaching me how to do my makeup. And I
was like, wait, this is fantastic. I could actually makeup and I was like wait this is fantastic I could
actually do videos since I'm a makeup artist I could do videos and help out my family like my
sister that always wants a one-on-one you know and learn tricks my friends and family and I finally
decided to do it but then I remember even my friends questioning me like what are you really
doing you're like this is crazy you're just putting videos out there like no one understood it so in the beginning it was really hard especially
like you know yes i was working that was like my hobby i was still working full time with beauty
as a makeup artist but i was doing that as a hobby didn't know it was going to become something but
then when it started becoming something i remember getting my first box of makeup at home from NYX cosmetics like I was oh my god I'm getting free
product this is crazy like I did not imagine it would become something one
day but of course like throughout the months after I created my blog
especially and started sharing more content not just beauty but also fashion
lifestyle writing every day my community started growing
more and being more engaged I remember I really wanted to go into the fashion industry as well
and especially in the fashion industry it was really hard for back then to like prove yourself
and prove to brands and people that okay this is something like we're legit like we're creators and
it's not like we're you know back
then you see the name bloggers you would see in people's faces people like cringe a little bit
bloggers yeah remember the vogue article that came out uh it was like which one there was a
vogue article that was bashing bloggers a lot of bloggers spoke up i remember i'm sure i've
so this this was already like a few years after I went. I had already gone through so many things.
I'm like trying to prove myself.
But I remember clearly that article.
So what did you do when you broke into the industry
and people were having a bad taste about bloggers?
For me, it was different than you because my main focus isn't fashion.
Yeah.
So I can only imagine showing up at all these huge shows
and people snubbing you when you're working your ass off
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It was tough. And that was one of the things as well that made me want to work even harder and almost like you know i'm gonna prove that i'm
legit and that you know i belong at these places i think that's like stop being such a stuck-up
asshole no but i think that's such an interesting personality trait because i think like when you
have like listen people might like you have a winner and that like those circumstances end up
fueling fueling you but and for other people it ends up kind of defeating them and i think like
to hear you say it's important for people to like when people tell you no you should hear yes in
your head and you should push harder exactly same thing happened with podcasting people are like
what the hell is a podcast when we started this now it's like this podcast established a network
people are now won't stop talking about podcasts actually kind of annoying now but in the beginning
they're like what the fuck are you doing?
Yeah.
No, but it definitely exactly what you said.
It has made me so much stronger.
It made me so much stronger throughout the years.
And it gave me more strength to like do better and be better and like and be innovative.
But it was hard.
It was definitely hard.
It wasn't like, you know, today that you see social media and you see influencers and and creators and know that that is a business.
Back then, it was like a few years, like trying to prove it, not trying to prove it, like doing it and being rejected, being looked at different.
And but still doing it to, you know, later on, see results.
What about other bloggers?
Like I said, I've never been to a fashion show.
That's just, that's not like my landscape of what I've done,
but I can only imagine coming into the fashion shows
and there's other bloggers that maybe are catty.
How did you deal with that?
Oh my gosh, great question.
I've had that a lot in the beginning,
but because I came from a beauty background I feel like when I was stepping
into fashion girls were like no you're you're always going to be a beauty influencer like
you don't belong in fashion I felt that a lot of times they never said it to my face. But I felt that in ways where like, okay, we're sitting together watching a show,
and they will invite everyone around them all, let's go to dinner, and they would invite me in
this was like, you know, and at the time, I was like, Okay, that's fine. But I felt like they
were excluding me from from it. And it's funny, because you know, life goes on. And then the same
people come in, like they want to collab with you know, life goes on and then the same people come and like,
they want to collab with you later and they want to do stuff together. So, I mean, all of that
gave me strength and it gave me like, it gave me strength to be better and to do better and to,
to prove myself. So, I mean, that happens. It doesn't happen a lot. In the beginning,
it did happen to me, but i can complain you know i have great
relationships with so many people but i can count like maybe a couple that were kind of catty to me
you know what's funny is we've had um like i'd say like fashion influencers and bloggers on this show
right and their story is when they broke in and got into like the fashion landscape and started
going to shows that the traditional like fashion people
snubbed them and then you're telling a story about how when they were there like and a beauty person
comes in they snub and it's just funny how things work but you know you got to be careful who you
snub on the way up because you never know what's going to happen with someone i always tell people
how about everyone's just nice to everyone yeah because like it's not that hard and i tell people
all the time like when you right when you feel you're at the top, like there's somebody below you that is super hungry and willing to do whatever they can to
get to that level. And like, you can't get comfortable at the top. You always got to be
nice to everybody because you never know, like somebody that works for you could one day,
you can end up one day working for them. Exactly. Exactly.
When did you know, holy shit, this is a business. Like I need to really take this seriously and run it like a business how early on actually early on I remember 2010 I started doing videos just hobby 2011 I created my blog and
that's when like you know the first 12 days we got more than 150,000 unique visitors on the blog
which was insane number I would say 2012 beginning of 2012 that's when actually my husband came in
and that's when things got real I was like I need help I was getting offers from brands to like
advertise their product and I remember at the time was even if it was just like okay you're
getting a percentage of the sales you know how they used to do kind of like reward style today
right and it started really getting I yeah, a year and a half after
I started, which was quick, I think, because, I mean, again, back in 2010, this was super new.
But I was very committed. The moment I created my blog, I was committed. I was like, in order
for people to come back, I need to be consistent. And I had this mindset really in the beginning. I need to
be consistent on every platform that I use. I need to be consistent, especially on my blog,
because this is the hub of everything. And if I don't post every day, at least Monday to Friday,
people are not going to remember me, right? And this is my mindset in the beginning and still
is today. Like on YouTube, for example,
I used to do YouTubes, you know, twice a week. Today, I'm not so consistent and I see the
difference from back then to now because today I have so much other, so many other things going on.
But being consistent was so important for me and being on all different platforms. I, you know,
was using Twitter. Instagram didn't even exist before,
until 2012. But then I remember Instagram coming up, and I got the app, I was posting there,
I was posting everywhere, Facebook, YouTube, all the platforms I was using to commute because
there's different people in each platform, right? And some people love Facebook, they maybe don't
use Instagram so much. So I was trying to get everyone.
And that was kind of like my strategy in the beginning.
That's what I think also helped me grow faster in the beginning, the consistency and the
being present in all social medias.
Besides consistency now in 2020, what do you think makes an influencer stand out?
And it doesn't even have to be an
influencer just any kind of creator yeah I think what makes a creator stand out today is being
authentic number one when I say being authentic is not just like being yourself and who you are
but being authentic to like true to you like who are you working with? Is it organic that, you know, what are the brands
you're advertising? Is it products or a brand that you truly believe in? And your followers,
and this was also a mindset that I had since the beginning. Like when I was making no money,
I was saying no's already because there were certain things that would come in that I was like,
how can I do that? And maybe it wasn't, you know, a brand that I already liked, but the product I didn't like. And one thing I always did
was to try product before I say yes to an offer. And I think that is number one, like earning your
followers trust, right? And I used to think if I mess it up, if I don't be real with them now,
they're going to see a long term and I want this to be long term so it was very important for me to say no's in the beginning until now so i think being
authentic working hard i mean a lot of people think that being an influencer is easy it's so
much work you know it there's just so much that goes you know it's very overwhelming i mean don't
get me wrong i love it there's a lot of you know i think it's an easy way for people to discredit like they'll look at someone like you
and say like you know well i could do that but it's easy like it just must be so easy and it's
a way to discredit and invalidate what you do and it's it's a harder truth to face like oh shit
that's a lot of work right because a lot of people don't want to put in that work yeah and you know
you're basically in the beginning when i didn't have a team, really, I was everything like I was my, I was the creator, I was the, like,
you're really doing everything you're writing your, and it's so much pressure to and so much
responsibility. I always say the bigger you are, the more responsibility you have to inspire people
in a positive way. So like, think two, three times before writing a caption,
like how are you going to impact people in a positive way by what you're posting? Not that
you can't be organic and like fun, of course you can, but I always think in the back of my mind,
like how is this content going to affect people? There's people of different culture, different
ages that are watching me. A big responsibility that I have, too, is to talk about my real life struggles and show people that, you know, my life isn't perfect.
I feel like a lot of people with a big voice have been doing that a lot throughout the last years.
But it became social media.
I don't know if you remember this or if you felt this you guys like maybe two years
back social media was only about like the glamorous life the glamorous things and i remember even an
article came out about like the amount of teenagers having depression because of social media like
you're only seeing like this perfect life you know if i have a bad day i don't like to look at social
media because it's just you know the filter of everyone's perfect life that that does
not exist there's no such thing as a perfect life everyone goes through
struggles and and difficult things but us like people with the voices that's a
vibrator so people with a voice in a platform Is that the vibe? Like, is that the vibe? It wants to work. I was worried it was the vibe. I was like, oh, shit.
So people with a voice and a platform, it's very important that we share our struggles,
that we share, you know, the things we go through so that, you know, people who are watching us know that, you know, we're just like them and that their life is OK.
Like we all go through struggles.
We all go through difficult things.
I've been trying to do that a lot.
What are some struggles that you've shared with your audience
that you think have really resonated and maybe helped people?
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week or I'm at fashion
week, the most glamorous moment of the year, right? For fashion. Like I'm there watching the
show's front row, but then I'm very overwhelmed. There's so much to do. There's not just going and
sitting on the show. It's the getting ready. It's, you know, stopping at an event. It's doing
interviews in the middle of it. It's, it's a lot. And there are a lot of times at fashion week that
I'm not feeling my best self that I'm feeling, you know, there are a lot of times at Fashion Week that I'm not feeling my best self.
That I'm feeling, you know, there are a lot of times at Fashion Week that I have cried.
And a lot of times after an event that I'm meeting, like, only people that want to see me there.
But then afterwards, I have a breakdown.
Not because I'm not happy, but just because it's a lot of energy. It's very overwhelming.
Everything we do and all the energy we put into all we do and content especially is a lot. So
showing that is very important. But I think the biggest thing I've shared with my community was
about my epilepsy journey. I was diagnosed at age nine and my whole life I kept it for myself. I did struggle a lot
when I was a teenager and I was able, thankfully, on my 20s, I was able to accept it, accept myself.
You know, it was during my 20s that I started on social media and I always thought that it was okay
to not share. But then again, last year was a big year that I thought, okay, it was kind of bothering me.
I knew it was something, it was like kind of the only thing I had never shared with my followers.
And I knew also that it would not only be liberating to me to just let that out,
although it would be scary, but that I will probably be able to help a lot of people.
Not only those living with epilepsy, which there's a lot of us,
one out of 26 people are diagnosed with epilepsy throughout their lives,
but those people who struggle with accepting themselves
with their life problems, you know?
So I share that in February of this year,
which was epilepsy month,
and it was the best thing I did.
It was very scary to do it.
I just didn't know exactly what type of,
because there's still such a huge stigma out there.
For someone that doesn't know a lot about epilepsy,
can you speak on it?
What is it like on a day-to-day? Is it something that affects you every single day or just when it happens?
Like describe what it's like living with it. So there's various different types of epilepsy.
Like I myself, I have dysrhythmia, but there's many different types of epilepsy in many different
levels as well. So me and you, we could have dysrhythmia, the same type of epilepsy,
but we could have different levels of it.
Yours could be severe.
Mine can be more controlled.
And when I say that is mine is thankfully more controlled.
Every time, if I'm on medicine, I've never had a seizure.
So every time I had a seizure in my life was when I was off medicine
because the doctor recommends you I was off medicine because
the doctor recommends you to be off medicine every four years just to see if you still need it
but there's a lot of people children especially who have seizures every day even on medicine
even though I know like that mine is controlled I'm still scared when I have you know a really
bad headache when I have when I feel dizzy is that when I get might something might come on
you like there's things that you're driving do you get nervous when you're driving no I don't
get nervous if I'm driving but then if I have a really bad headache and I'm driving then I'll get
scared and I'll probably stop the car and have my husband drive or what I'm trying to say is there's so many people who live with it on their daily lives.
They don't know if they're gonna have a seizure in front on an event in front of everyone.
You don't know. And the doctor's like, and there's children who still don't know the cure or the
right medicine for their type of epilepsy. What does it feel like when you have a seizure?
Do you not remember?
I remember all of them.
My first one, each one of them were different.
I've had it while I was sleeping.
But a lot of people ask me that.
Does it hurt?
What do you feel?
For me, it's not even a relief to say, oh, it doesn't hurt.
I don't feel anything.
Because I know it hurts the people who are watching it much more than it hurts me. Like, I don't feel anything because i know it hurts the people who are watching it much more than it hurts me
like i don't feel anything it's almost like i went to sleep some of them i see my like my first one
i was nine my fingers started closing one by one by itself and i couldn't control i couldn't open
it was just closing my hand and that's when i ran to my friend's mom. I was at her house playing with her.
And she saw something was wrong.
And I remember myself like fainting in her arms.
And the next thing I remember that day was my mom calling my name.
We're probably on the way to the hospital.
And I couldn't respond to her.
And that was the most traumatizing thing for me.
Because like I knew I was fine but she didn't and from that moment on I never wanted to have
a seizure in front of anyone because I knew how much was gonna hurt them sorry okay okay but you know it doesn't hurt me but i know how much families struggle with
um you know having people or children or whoever in their family who has epilepsy i always say like
it's not only about the person who has epilepsy it's the whole family like they're heroes and
a lot of people a lot of families are dealing with
this on an everyday basis like taking care of that person unfortunately not everyone is like
my case who gets to live a normal life like I a lot of people are with epilepsy are sensitive to
flash to lights or they can't go to a concert. So imagine me like, you know,
being photographed and being at events, but I'm okay with that. It's different. Answering your
question, for every person is different. There's different levels, there's different types.
And if anyone wants to know a bit more about epilepsy in general, I'm today a board member
of the Epilepsy Foundation, which I'm really proud of, and trying to help them, you know, raise awareness and funds and bring awareness and end stigma, really.
Because a lot of people, you still say, like, until this day, I mean, growing up in a small town, especially,
like, oh, I have epilepsy or my daughter has epilepsy.
People will look at you like, oh, my gosh, is she a bit crazy?
Can she process things right?
And it's not that.
There's different types.
There's different levels.
Do they know what brings it on?
Is it stress?
You said flash, but is there something specific
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Which is why probably Fashion Week is not the best thing for you.
Yeah, I mean, Fashion Week has been always really scary for me.
And one of the things, you know, I've always tried to do at Fashion Week,
a lot of times I have to say no to events or to opportunities
because I know I need to get my rest.
I know I need to get, rest. I know I need to get like my sleep in at least. And you know, there are times that I sleep five hours a night,
but then I need to take another two days to sleep really well, just to prevent. It doesn't mean it's
going to happen, but I don't want to take the chance, right? If you're diagnosed, those are
the things that will trigger the seizure the most. And you don't drink alcohol, I read.
No.
Yeah.
No alcohol ever.
Ever because of my epilepsy.
Does that trigger it too?
Well, if you drink alcohol, it will take the effect of your medicine a little bit.
So, I mean, if I drink a little bit of alcohol, it won't.
But doctors recommend not to drink because they don't know how much you're going to drink, right?
So I never, I remember when I was diagnosed, actually, this is a funny story. My doctor said
to me at nine years old, Camila, so the only thing you cannot do is drink alcohol. And I laughed. I
was like, ha ha ha, you know, I don't want to drink alcohol. I thought he was going to say you can't
play a certain game or you can go on a roller coaster. And I remember that was like, I was fine with that until my teenage years.
I mean, that was when I really struggled.
You know, I moved to the U.S., this different country, different language.
I was trying to fit in already.
And my friends started partying and I couldn't drink.
I just, you know, my mom always told me, don't drink.
I wanted to do it.
And when you're insecure about something, it's not really like I wanted to drink alcohol. I just wanted my friends
to see me equal like them. And I've gotten many things like, oh, why don't you drink? Are you
scared? Are you, is there something wrong with you? And all of those things would make me feel very insecure and different.
And it got to a point that I sat on my bed and I remember this day clearly.
And I talked to myself and God, like, I'm not going to have seizures.
And I said, I'm not going to have seizures anymore.
I'm going to be cured and I'm going to stop my medicine.
I didn't accept it.
I mean, the fact it was one medicine, right, a medicine. I didn't accept it. I mean, the fact it was one medicine, right, a day.
And I didn't accept it.
So I ended up having, after a few months, I had a seizure in high school in front of all of my friends.
And I remember waking up in the hospital and just crying, like bawling.
And I looked at my mom and I was so ashamed of what I did.
Did she think you were taking the medicine?
Yeah, she didn't know.
I took it away.
And I thought to myself, she's going to be so mad.
I can't even look at her.
And we had the best conversation that day.
And one of the things I say, you know, if you're struggling,
especially as a teenager, share with your family, share with your friends,
share with those who love you because they can help you.
My mom didn't know I was struggling, and that's why she didn't help me.
So what she said to me in the hospital was so meaningful.
She said to me, Camila, there's people fighting for their lives
every single day. There's people with epilepsy who have seizures, who take medicine like you
and still have several seizures a day. You are able to take one medicine and know that you will be okay and know that that one pill
is going to control your seizures. So how lucky are you? And I heard her saying that
and it was almost like it completely changed the way I felt about my condition.
I mean, it wasn't overnight, but I kept thinking about that every single day
until it got to a moment that I was like, I am so blessed.
I am so lucky.
And it made me accept myself and love myself the way I was
and realize that everyone in this world has a
different challenge and different struggle. And that was mine. And yeah, that was the hardest
part of my journey. But then, you know, throughout the years, I decided to share because it was,
it's still like a little weight on my shoulders. I bet you've helped a lot of people. You have a
huge reach. Hopefully I did. Yeah, the amount of messages I got, the amount of people who shared
their stories with me was incredible. It helped me out a lot too, especially now that I'm thinking of
having a family, having a baby. This past year has been such a big year for us, for me and Icaro,
because we want to have a child and it's also very sensitive when you have to take medicine.
You can either get pregnant without medicine, but then if you have a seizure, you can lose your baby.
Or you can get pregnant on medicine, but then there are higher risks of, you know, having an abnormal
pregnancy. So the decision is so hard. And I remember the beginning of the year before I
shared about my epilepsy journey, how sensitive I was, even talking about it, like I could never
have this conversation with you guys or anyone before I shared my story. And by sharing my story
is what made me stronger to talk about it, to talk to others
and to listen to other people who go through the same.
So by sharing my story,
I got to listen to so many moms
who had epilepsy their whole lives,
who got pregnant on medicine
and had two, three healthy babies.
So that helped me make my decision.
Well, I think when you tell stories like this someone from the
outside will look at you and this will happen to any successful person and they'll hear you saying
something like fashion week is hard but for most people like and i understand because we've we've
been to these events and it is hard and trying but unless you've actually done those things you're
going to say like i would do anything to be a fashion week so right they don't they're not
going to relate to it so when you tell a story this, it humanizes you in a way where people
are like, oh my God, she's a person. She has struggles like me. Like I can understand. And
people can, can identify with you a little bit more and relate to you more, which ultimately
makes them more vested in your story and also more engaged in what you're doing. Where, you know,
when you see, I'm not going to name anybody, but when you see successful people go and complain
about like success, right? Like, oh my God, it's so hard that business is booming and I have to go to these
great places. What it does is people are like, listen, you're complaining about something that
they would literally cut their right arm off for. And so it's important to humanize yourself because
what it does is it makes people understand like, oh, she's human like me. And we all struggle,
whether it's, you know, they may not have epilepsy or, but they have something. Yeah,
there's something like we all have something. And I think it's, you know, they may not have epilepsy or, but they have something. Yeah, there's something like we all have something. It was probably comforting too,
for you to hear from other mothers that have beautiful babies now that had epilepsy.
Yeah, no, it was life changing, really. Like I was so scared. You know, when you, every woman has
like almost 2% chance of having an abnormal pregnancy. That is for every one of us. And with certain epilepsy, and you don't want
to add any half percent of anything, right? When you're pregnant, it's like, you don't want to.
There's, and when my doctor said, I recommend you to get pregnant on medicine, I freaked out.
I was like, if something happens, if I have an abnormal pregnancy, I'm never going to forgive
myself. But then also if I do it without and I lose the baby I'm also not gonna forgive myself so
it was really hard so listening to these stories and facts like
made me today I have my decision made and I'm so comfortable with it because I got to listen to
all of these stories I think that another person that opened up like you,
and it was so interesting to watch,
like everything that happened was Chrissy Teigen.
Yeah.
So many people were so evil that she shared what she shared
about having a stillborn birth.
And I was talking about this the other day,
and I keep talking about it because I think it's important
that people that are so beautiful and thin and rich and have it all and have the house and all the check boxes humanize, like Michael just said, what's going on and show them that just because you do have it all in quotes, things still happen.
And what that does for other mothers is there's a lot of people that have had stillborn births.
And so now they can say
okay christy tegan's talking about it i can now talk about it i feel comfortable it's so important
to have these conversations exactly it's exactly what you said so many people the week that i
shared especially so many people came out about their epilepsy on their own social medias. That for me was like, wow, I can't even explain. And,
you know, so many comments like that, oh, I can now talk about it and I don't have to be ashamed
because epilepsy was very, there's still a huge stigma there, like I said, and so many people
are afraid. I've heard stories of, you know, people who shared with their boss that they have
epilepsy and they got fired the next week because, know they probably thought the person wasn't so capable so we need to stay i mean
my goal is to use my platform and my voice to to try to end stigma to bring awareness to it because
there's still a big problem out there i think about like this is a weird analogy you guys might
not follow me here but i think about like a neighborhood in the 50s and you'd go you go there and I wasn't alive in the 50s. But you go and you
see these like picture perfect houses, right? And everyone's out there putting their best
face forward. But then you never know what's really going on on the inside. And it makes
it hard for the community to really like understand who people are. And I think social
media is just a massive amplification of that where you look and someone has a really, really
pretty page and pretty brand, but you can't really tell what's going on. And I think one good thing that's happening, if there is something good
from social media is that people are starting to kind of like show behind the house and show behind
the pretty picture and say like, hey, we're all humans having human experiences. And I think when
you do that at a mass level, it enables the spread of information, which makes people understand
people more and also get a little bit more educated on other things. I mean, especially this year, where there's so many things that we've seen that have been impactful that,
you know, people just weren't talking about. And when they do, it helps people learn. And I think
like a lot of the problems in this world stem from people being ignorant, right? And if you
take that ignorance away and start educating people, you can start to help each other a
little bit more. And so I just think about like that weird analogy where like you drove this
neighborhood and everything looks perfect, but you know know it's not perfect on the inside the same thing
with social media just super amplified nothing's perfect nothing is perfect and by the way perfect
is boring so nothing's perfect i agree how has your husband been a part of your journey
when did you meet tell us the story behind that and then tell us how he's integrated in your business if he is. We met through friends.
It's actually a funny story.
We met through friends.
It was my birthday party.
He came along with a friend of mine, and that's how we met.
We discovered that we were from the same small town in Brazil.
That's weird.
You've discovered that here while you're both well.
Yeah.
We met in America, and that was our first connection.
Like, oh my gosh, we're from the same town.
And he came to the US younger than me, but he would always go back like vacation time.
And I discovered after that all of my friends knew him and I didn't.
So it was meant to be, you know, for us to meet here.
And we've been together for 15 years, married for 10.
I met him, we started going out with 17.
And he's my everything.
I mean, he's not just, you know, my husband and partner,
but he's the person who really like lifts me up every single day,
who gives me courage, who in the business as well, like plays such a huge important part. Right in the beginning,
when he could have saw that I was, you know, I had a passion for the social media and what I was
doing in creating videos. I remember like I was shooting those on the weekend because I was
working throughout the week. And I said one day, oh, should I really be doing this? And he said to
me, yes, you should. I see that you love it. Why not? Like, do it. It's something you like doing. And
so he always encouraged me to do things I love. He always encouraged me to be myself and to be
strong. And he has played a huge part, especially on my epilepsy journey. So yeah, he's my everything. And he's today, you know, my business partner.
He was super involved in the launch
of our beauty brand, L.A. Luz.
So yeah, I love him too.
I love him so much.
And I can't wait to have babies with him.
Lauren, you better be talking about me like this.
No, because it is challenging to work
with your significant other, at least for me.
I thought you were going to say,
Michael's also my everything. You are are my everything but you can be very annoying
how do you guys work together seamlessly like there's a lot of annoying things you do like
i don't i always say like i don't want to be told at while i'm eating my breakfast at 7 a.m that
like i need to call the bank today i want to blow my fucking head off when you do that well good to
know we're in the same page.
Well, you know, that was one of the hardest things in the beginning when we started working together.
It's like, how do we separate things, personal from professional?
And a lot of times I see myself saying, wait,
if it was someone else from the team, you would not speak to me that way.
So it's really hard to separate things and to know the the time as well. Like you mentioned in the morning, I don't want to, when I'm drinking
my coffee, I don't want to hear, okay, you have to post this today. You have to talk to someone
or at nighttime when we're sitting on the sofa and watching our Netflix series. Oh, this about
work. I don't want to. So we're kind of made rules in the house like that you know after a certain hour
we don't talk about work um and it works well i mean sometimes we break the rules but most of the
time we try to follow the rule if you're gonna say you never broke the rules i was gonna say
no there's no way but like you know we're we've been working together for so long and there was
definitely a year i remember it was really hard really hard but we made it work and we work well together today like we tried to you know he has
his his um his uh territory I have mine and you know I'm the creative side he's the financial
side so today's much easier than it used to be before like before he was like photographing me
as well we're like on top of each other all the time so today we're able to make it work don't you think it's so
i don't want to have sex and you ask me my bank login while we're having sex i don't know my
turn me on like please please please maybe that's what we'll do like you we'll have sex i'll talk
to the bank um but don't you feel like it's, if you can figure it out,
and I,
you know,
we talk and say like,
maybe not every couple should do it
because it is,
I mean,
same with us.
Really,
really difficult to figure out.
But if you do,
don't you feel like it is really rewarding
to work with your partner?
It's so rewarding.
And build something.
Yeah.
It's,
I mean,
it's the best part of it.
It's like,
you know,
we're building out,
like we constantly,
we always have goals together,
number one.
And that is one of the things
that strengthens the relationship the most.
Like having goals together, achieving things together.
Like we always have something to look forward to together.
And we're always kind of on the same page.
And the experiences we get to live together because of work.
You know, when I travel, go to a cruise show or go somewhere in Europe and have this experience, he's with me.
He probably appreciates it as much as you do because you're both doing it exactly so it's
really rewarding at the end of the day to build all of this together i feel like you guys are
like us where a lot of couples are pushing a boulder uphill and they're different boulders
yeah and with michael and i it seems like with guys, you're pushing the same boulder up the same hill. Exactly. And as challenging as it is, it's also nice to sometimes.
What are some of your best kept skin secrets?
Skin is huge on this podcast.
You have beautiful skin.
What are like some products that you're obsessed with?
Is there something that you do that's maybe very Brazilian-esque that Americans need
to know about like give us give us some tips so it's it's funny they talk about skin now because
I was like complaining about some skin damn it like skin stuff that I have going on the side here
no it's looking good but yeah I'm so picky about skincare um always been especially when I started
putting a lot of makeup on like when I started working as a makeup artist, I noticed early on that, you know, taking care of my
skin and my skincare regimen was so important to, for my makeup to look good. And for my skin to
look good throughout the years and to prevent wrinkles and all of that. So one of the, I have
some like Brazilian, I remember my grandmother making all these things like hair masks face mask like from home I remember face mask like honey and um I used to put so
much stuff I have some recipes I can actually give you but um with skincare my main thing is
a good wash your face definitely double cleanse cleansing is so important if you're putting if
you don't remove your makeup right and you're putting your skincare on top of that
with the residue, it's not going to be good for your skin.
So really cleanse your skin, double cleanse and tone it before you put your products on,
your serums, your moisturizer.
So double cleansing, number one, and then hydrating my skin.
Vitamin C, oils, serums.
Those are very important to me, especially a serum or oil that works before your foundation as well.
That's going to make your makeup look so good.
And you have one here in front of me.
I do.
The Ella Luz Beauty Oil.
I actually developed that product thinking about, you know, an oil
that I could use before makeup because there's so many oils out there that I love, but that don't
work so well before makeup. And this one is very like velvety. It smells so good too. It has a ton
of like Brazilian ingredients in it and it's clean. It's a clean product, EWG verified, which I'm
really proud of. And it's really difficult to create, you know's a clean product ewg verified which i'm really proud of and it's really
difficult to create you know a clean product skincare is everything to me like the right
skincare i i started going to dermatologist early on and she will always tell me one thing like
make sure you put on a skincare that is clean that almost acts like medicine for your skin and
because there's a bunch of cosmetic stuff out there that like medicine for your skin. And because there's a
bunch of cosmetic stuff out there that you put on, your skin is going to feel great the next day,
but it's not really not going deep in and preventing, you know, aging and all of that. So
it's very important. I love skincare. I am a skincare freak. I'm always changing up my
regimen as well. I started to notice that I was using too many different products.
Yeah.
And that was fucking up my skin.
And now I like really simplified it and that made a big difference.
I noticed.
Yeah, for sure.
There was a time where like the more you use, the better it was.
But it's really the opposite.
The less you use, the better it's going to be.
It's really about choosing the right products.
What about a makeup tip that you can share with our audience?
So a makeup tip. Maybe using one of your products, because they're on the table right now,
and they all look amazing. Yeah, one great makeup tip that I have is with our lip and cheek stain.
I use that product on my lips and on my cheeks for like a natural flush. So especially now during,
you know, COVID, we're staying more home. There are days I just want like something very little on my face and I want to flush.
Like I want my husband to look at me like, she looks cute, but she looks like she has nothing on.
So that's perfect.
I put a little bit of concealer under eye and I put that on my lips and on my cheeks.
And I have like this beautiful red, like flush, but very natural.
That's a trick I love.
I mean, I always need to have something on my lips.
And even when I'm wearing like nude lipstick, like today, I have that under because when I
nude lipstick comes off, I still have like that flush on my lips, you know?
Sold. Sold. What is your morning routine? We ask a lot of people this. Our audience
loves morning routines and maybe you don't have one, but if you do, what is it? I do have a morning routine. I mean, it's not super, it's simple, but it's important. I wake up
and the first thing I do is wash my face with cold water, very cold to wake me up and to de-puff in a
little bit. And then what I do is I apply my beauty water, which tones and re-energize the skin.
It helps with the pores and then the oil.
And then after the oil, which is hydrating my skin, what I do is I take like a gua sha tool
and I do like a little Brazilian face lymphatic massage, which is, it works wonders.
It really de-puffins my face especially the days that i
have to shoot something you know go to the studio that's like my go-to morning routine and then try
to drink a lot of water in the morning uh that all of that those things like all of those things i
just said really help in deep puff i'm a very puffy face girl i get it i wake up really puffy
like on my face.
So yeah,
Michael wakes up nice and tight and snatched.
And I'm over there using my gua sha tool.
And I'm super dehydrated in the morning.
Then I have to drink and then I'll puff up a little.
For diet,
what are your tips and tricks?
You're in very good shape.
Thank you.
So for diet,
so I have,
I always say like people,
there's different people. If I,
me and you, we drink and eat the same thing, our bodies are still going to look different, right?
I feel, I say that I'm blessed with very fast metabolism. So I lose weight, but I use, because I have a fast metabolism, I lose weight really easily. And what I'm always trying to do is maintain my weight so that I'm not too like the way
I don't want, you know, I want my curves and I want everything there.
I want my muscle mass.
When I work out, I'm like building muscle.
So I'm in a balance where like I want to eat healthy things, but then I need to eat a lot
of protein and I need to get my carbs in. So I never really done like a strict diet.
But I know that like, you know, now I'm learning more about like,
what are the good carbs that I should be eating instead of the bad carbs?
I love rice, rice and beans, you know, as a Brazilian, it's one of my favorite things to eat.
But then what are the things that could be replacing?
And all of the things we eat food it affects our whole body
affects our sleep affects our skin our energy so and I find myself a lot like really especially
throughout the day during the day I feel like I have no energy anymore it's because of all of the
bad carbs that probably I eat and have in my diet because I want to maintain my weight, right? So the trick for, I mean, it's hard.
Like, I don't really think of like, oh, I have a trick, but I think it's important for you to know
what's your like issue, like what, how is your body, how's your metabolism, how's your muscle
memory, and then figure out, you know, what are the things you should be doing? Like, I think,
I feel like a lot of people, they just follow whatever someone else is doing,
but they don't know that it could have a totally different effect on them. Even if like you follow
this really strict diet that a girl is doing, it can have a totally different effect on you.
So what about workout? Workouts? I love anything with weights. Like I love doing booty workouts and lower body
workouts, like legs and butt are my number one. And I always try to put some abs in there as well.
But I don't work a lot of upper body, but lower body is my main thing. I have actually some
really cool like 30 minute workouts on my IGTV that I did with my trainer when COVID started and I couldn't go to him
and I saved it there but I love working out I love biking I love playing volleyball
you know being active in general it really you know gives me energy
but when I'm working out I concentrate more on weightlifting
can you leave our audience with a book, a podcast or a resource
that you feel like will bring them value? I will leave them with a book, The Secret.
It talks about the power of attraction, which I really believe in. It's about, you know,
the energy that you put to the world, that you put into the world is where you're going to get back at you. I feel like,
you know, the energy that we spread is so important on our every day. There are days that I wake up
feeling down and I don't even know why. And instead of like trying to figure out why I'm
feeling sad, I instead stop and say, okay, why, what should I be grateful for today?
Why should I be happy? Why should I smile today? And then I start counting the simple things in
life, right? Like I have a roof on top of my head, I have health, I have a loving husband,
a loving family, and then I'm automatically feeling happier. So, and a lot of times, you know,
things are always going to happen. you're going to be leaving your
house your tire is going to go flat and then you're like putting all that negative energy
and heavy energy into that and maybe that was actually saving you for something from something
worse happening you know in your day so i believe so much in energy and how energy can impact
our lives so the secret is a really interesting book of how you can
i'm trying to teach michael about it you know what's funny though it is the simple lauren always
makes fun of me because she's like do your gratefuls and my gratefuls is like wife baby
dogs like there's like that's the thing that i'm like grateful for in my life and it's funny we
lost it what's not funny we lost a dog this year that was 17 years old that was like everything to
me and i think about like even all the stuff that and i would give my partners probably don't want
to hear this i would give everything away all the all the everything to get that And I think about like even all the stuff that, and I would give, my partners probably don't want to hear this. I would give everything away, all the, all the,
everything to get that dog back. And it's funny because like you, you take little things in life
for granted until you don't have them. And I think people need to remember, like it's the,
it's the little things that matter the most, not all the other stuff. Exactly. Before you go,
tell us about your beauty line, pimp it out. Tell us how you started it, why you started it, what the name means, all this stuff.
So my beauty brand is called Ella Luz.
It means she's light in my native language, Portuguese.
And it is inspired by the warmth and the confidence that comes from everyone's individual light.
I truly, like I was saying, light for me is energy. Light is love. Light is, you know, that inner light, I always say it's,
we're all born with it. It's in there. It's ours. It's unique. Some people might try to show you
that their light shines brighter, but it's up to us to let that light shine through. And once you
let it shine through, you're able to be whoever you want to be in this life. And once you let it shine through,
you're able to be whoever you want to be in this life.
And I'm an example of it.
Ella Luz is a lifestyle brand
developed with essential products
from skincare to makeup to hair, body.
There's so much more coming
and we're a clean, sustainable brand,
which I'm really proud of.
So yeah, I'm really passionate about this brand.
I don't want to spend too much talking about it, but...
What's the main product
if you were to start with one product?
I feel like I am going to start with the lip and cheek,
but what would you start with?
It's hard.
It's almost like choosing a baby,
you know, your favorite child.
I'm really passionate about the oil. The beauty oil is just, for me, it's been life
changing, like, especially before makeup, before I go to bed on top of my moisturizer,
uh, because I'm such, you know, people think, think I would say like, uh, a makeup product,
but skincare, that oil for me is just really amazing
because it's clean as well. And then second, the lip and cheek. But also, I mean, I have to pick
everything. The diet check, texture spray, my hair's so fine and I need texture every day. But
number one is the oil for me. Okay. I love it. Pimp yourself out now. Where is your Instagram?
Where can everyone find you? Pimp myself out. Yes. Pimp yourself out now where is your instagram where can everyone find you pimp myself out yes pimp yourself out um my instagram is at camilla coelho and you can find
me also on youtube for beauty tutorials um there's a lot of content on my blog at camilla um at
www.camillacuelho.com uh we're going to link everything out too. I'm not pimping myself, so right.
No, you are.
And your product on Instagram, where can they follow?
My product, my brand is Ella Luz on Instagram
and Camilla Queiroz Collection for my fashion label.
And it's E-L-A-L-U-Z.
Yes.
Cute.
Thank you so much for coming on and opening up.
Our audience is going to love this episode.
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