The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Campbell ‘Pookie’ & Jett Puckett On Loving Out Loud, Finding The Right Partner, & How To Lean Into Positivity

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

#844: Join us as we sit down with Campbell ‘Pookie’ & Jett Puckett – the internet’s favorite couple whose viral fit check videos, magnetic chemistry, & Southern charm have taken social media ...by storm, giving us a front-row seat to their love story, luxe lifestyle, & all the moments in between. In this episode, Pookie & Jett  open up about embracing authentic love, the mindset shift that comes with building a life together, & the realities behind becoming a true power couple. They dive into the importance of surrounding yourself with positivity, creating a strong support system, & how to love out loud — unapologetically & wholeheartedly! To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To connect with Campbell Puckett click HERE To connect with Jett Puckett click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194. This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is sponsored by BUMPSUIT To Shop the Lauryn Bosstick x Bumpsuit Collection visit bit.ly/BUMPSUITXLB and use code SKINNY for 15% off for a limited time.  This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to tryarmra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 15% off your first order. This episode is sponsored by Active Skin Repair Visit ActiveSkinRepair.com to learn more about Active Skin Repair and to get 20% off your order, use code SKINNY. This episode is sponsored by Jolie Head to jolieskinco.com/SKINNY to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. This episode is sponsored by The RealReal Get $25 off your first purchase when you go to TheRealReal.com/skinny. This episode is sponsored by Beam Go to shopbeam.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY at checkout. This episode is sponsored by ASTRAL House Marg Summer is here. Time to stock up! Go to astraltequila.com to find Astral near you - and don’t forget the limes! Please Enjoy Responsibly. Do not forward anyone under 21. ASTRAL Tequila. 40% Alcohol per Volume. Diageo, New York, NY. Produced by Dear Media  

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Starting point is 00:01:53 And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. Aha! You want a him and her experience? We will give you a him and her experience on the show today with Jet and Pookie. You guys all know them from social media.
Starting point is 00:02:15 People in the office at Dear Media and the Skinny Confidential were so excited for these two public personas. I cannot tell you the excitement. And in this episode, we get to really see a genuine expression of the affection in real life. They have rose to fame from social media by promoting positive values, the importance of being around uplifting energies, and just really leaning into family values.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I personally really liked seeing this side of them because I think we see them in short form content on like TikTok and Instagram and this was long form. So we get to talk about everything from breakfast and bed conversations to kids to timing and relationships to their story to how to be successful in a relationship and how to cut negativity out of relationships. This episode is really endearing, it's lighthearted. I think that it tells their story and I enjoyed them both. Very, very sweet, authentic couple. Jet and Pookie, welcome to the Him and Her show.
Starting point is 00:03:20 This is the skinny confidential Him and Her. You guys have to give us context on how this organically happened, because that's what it feels like. And I think that's one of the reasons that it's so sticky and such a hit. Yeah, I mean, we've said for the last couple of years that our authentic love is the rocky field that makes it go. So all the things that we show on social media has been our life for ten years. I mean ever since we've been together. I've been calling her pookie from two weeks after I met her onward.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm obsessed with her. I love telling her how beautiful she is. I love making people feel good in general. I try to make everyone feel good. And so yeah, like a year and a half ago we just started putting it in video on social media and instantly it exploded. I mean it's been like this for ten years I think personally from a woman's standpoint of why it exploded is because guys could put a little more elbow grease into it
Starting point is 00:04:13 And I feel like you're putting the elbow grease into it Do you guys feel that that that's something that's maybe a reason of why it was sticking? I Mean again, it's just authentically how I am. So I don't really put elbow grease into it. I just, I like to say funny things. And I like to make Campbell laugh and like to make her feel good and make her friends and anyone around me feel good.
Starting point is 00:04:33 So this is just how I am. Yeah, he's, he really has always been like my biggest fan. He's always been building me up and telling me I'm beautiful. And I think I got, I kind of like just, that was just normal for us. And when we put it out there and people were like, oh my God, why is this happening?
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'm like, is that not, does your husband not make you feel good? Or like, are you not getting compliments? And that's how everyone should feel. Like everyone should feel beautiful and like, you know, not have to beg for a compliment and everyone should be able to be themselves. I love a compliment. Yeah, no, I do too and I love a compliment yeah no I do too my love language is
Starting point is 00:05:08 probably words of affirmation so I love the compliments and I also like to give compliments I I don't get breakfast in bed how do I convince Michael to give me breakfast in bed I see you bringing her like donuts. How do I manipulate that situation? I don't allow people to eat in our beds. I eat in the bed every night. I don't care how good it makes you feel. Every night. We eat in bed. How do I? I don't know what you're talking about. The crumb situation with me makes me a little bit neurotic. How do I get Michael to make me breakfast in bed on a tray? I don't know if I can help you with that specifically, but I'm sure he makes you feel loved. I mean, well, I'm sure he does.
Starting point is 00:05:45 You guys obviously have an incredible relationship and are so successful. I mean, another thing that we've been saying lately is authentically love out loud. Yeah, so I actually just did a TED talk at Wharton and UPenn a couple of weeks ago, and the subject of my talk was, in a world of fear and anger, authentically love out loud,
Starting point is 00:06:04 because that's what the world needs, both in our everyday personal interactions, which is what we put on video and social media, but also just in a very, very broad sense. The world, the media can be a very dark place filled with fear and anger, like the powers that manipulate us because of our natural focus on negativity. Humans are naturally focused on the negative for survival instinct reasons. And so because of all that, the world can feel very dark, very angry, very fearful. And in that landscape, authentically love out loud. That's the anecdote.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So that's what I would encourage Michael to do, love her out loud. That's really cute. I hope Michael's taking notes in his composition notebook. That's the name of your book, by the way, if you guys write a book. That's a great name. I'm curious to know what your childhood was like
Starting point is 00:06:43 to make you so comfortable with loving out loud. Yeah, that's really good because I think you definitely learned from your grandfather. Yes, exactly. I thankfully met. He passed away. He passed away late 2020. 2020, but I had never met a man like that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And he, I can tell immediately after I met your granddad that you got it from him. Yeah I mentioned this in my TED talk so my grandfather Wayne Blackwood was his name. Wayne was the most masculine man I've ever known just like old school southern businessman you know loved football scotch etc and he and my grandmother were married for 63 years before he passed away. My grandmother Joyce is still alive, but yeah, Wayne passed away in 2020. And I watched him love her out loud for my entire life because he loved her out loud for over 60 years. And he was extremely affectionate with her. And he encouraged me from the youngest age to, hey, you know, with your girlfriend, with your wife, you know, be very affectionate, be openly affectionate. You know,
Starting point is 00:07:43 he, to him, that was part of being a man, even though some people think that's the opposite of being a man. So yeah, he taught me you can be a manly man and still love your wife out loud. So that's- What about your parents? Did they do that too?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, my parents have a great marriage. They've been married for over 30 years. But Wayne was just very special. Yeah, he did it in a way. He made me feel so loved loved and I was not from Georgia. I wasn't from the South. Like, he made me feel so loved and just welcome and immediately I could tell that that's where he got it from. And what about your parents? Yeah, my parents were divorced at a young age, so it was totally different. Yeah. And when I met and I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:20 totally different. Yeah. And when I met and I was like, how is this it already? Like, how have I met my person at such a young age? But we literally were engaged within 10 months of knowing each other because it was fate, I think. I actually think a lot of people get in trouble because like, I have a lot of single guy friends now because I, and many of them, and they're going to know who some of them are going to know who I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:43 They like set this number, like when I'm 40, I will settle down. And I've seen some of these individuals meet what I, you know, I'm not in the relationship, but what I think would be a great match, but like, because they're so stuck on that number, like I'm not settling down until I get to that age. Lauren and I, we know each other since we were 12, we haven't been together that long, but since we were 20 and I caught myself, because I always think my dad settled down later in life as well.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I was like, oh, maybe this is too early for me. But I think that screws a lot of people up, because it's like they've set this end destination, and what they believe is the moment they should settle down, and then maybe they miss their moments or their person. Oh, I totally agree. I think picking an age would be the definition of insanity. Like, whenever you find your person, lock it down.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Once you find your person, there's nothing to wait on. Like form the union. What did you say? Yeah, when you reach the top of the mountain, just throw your flag down. But really, like, I mean, we're, humans are meant to be together with their spouse. And when you can form,
Starting point is 00:09:41 I don't even wanna use the word partnership, it's a union. When you can form that union, it makes you a better person, makes them a better person, and you build the life you want together. The idea of, oh, I'm't even want to use the word partnership, it's a union. When you can form that union, it makes you a better person, makes them a better person. And then you build the life you want together. The idea of, Oh, I'm going to build the life I want and then find the girl is total madness. Like no, as soon as you find the spouse, lock it down, and then build the life you want together. Which is what we really have done.
Starting point is 00:09:59 No, and statistically they show married couples and partners end up doing financially much better. And I've had a lot of friends friends now that we have more children, you guys are now well on your way. People ask me, well, now you have kids, are you going to slow down? And I found the exact opposite. It gives you even more purpose and more reason to strive. Yeah, totally. Except when you're getting out the door, they do sleep.
Starting point is 00:10:16 No, totally. Having kids makes you a better version of yourself, 100%. I think what you said is so important to so many men. They think that you're supposed to get the success and then get the wife and what I have found is a lot of high performers Get have the wife and then they build together and that's even more meaningful Totally. Yeah, that's what came when I've done and I mean, I think she said earlier that it was fate that brought us together We say it was divine intervention. We're very very blessed to have met at such a young age I was like you guys obviously very blessed about to have met at a young age too.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It's so special, because we've had this fairytale for 10 full years. But also I think because we met at a young age, we were able to build this life together and we do push each other to be better. We do push each other to be more entrepreneurial and to pursue our dreams, but also we're not competitive with each other.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Like we want each other to win. Like when he wins, I win. When I win, he wins. And we're constantly like trying to make each other better. We're not competing against each other, especially in our careers. Yeah, we feel like a lot of couples, especially power couples,
Starting point is 00:11:19 like compete with each other to some extent. That's just the opposite of us. And we don't even think of it as Jett and Campbell. It's just us together as a union. I tell Michael that all the time. I'm like, let's always push the same boulder up the same hill because you can get into something where there's separate boulders going up separate hills. And Michael always says that someone wants to build a bakery
Starting point is 00:11:38 and someone wants to build an empire of a bakery. And it's misaligned. It's out of alignment. How did you guys, and I'm sure you've told this story, but you have to just retell it in your way, meet? What was the day you guys met? So yeah, I was in grad school in Philadelphia, so I was getting MBA at Wharton, and a Malatagry at UPenn Law,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and Campbell was a flight attendant based in Philly at the time with American Airlines. Smart. You know, Divine Intervention put us together at Trio Wine Bar in Center City, Philadelphia. I just walked up to the prettiest girl at the bar, prettiest girl I'd ever seen, introduced myself. Holy, so cute.
Starting point is 00:12:11 We fell in love right away. You're gonna cry, so cute. Within two days, I knew that I was gonna marry her. I mean, she literally just, I've always said she looked like her princess, talks like her princess, even sleeps like her princess. Like, that's all exactly how I felt. That's exactly what I told everyone at the time. And then, yeah, I bought the ring after six months,
Starting point is 00:12:27 gave it to her after 10 months in Hawaii. I told her I loved her for the first time in Paris, maybe four or five months after we met, before I bought the ring. I mean, it's just been this fairy tale from literally the first date, all the way through to today, 10 years later. I think timing was everything for us.
Starting point is 00:12:42 We were, we really did. We met at the perfect time. We were both really comfortable with ourselves. We kind of knew who we were as people. But like you said, he kind of changed his mindset whenever we met and went from, oh my gosh, I need to make my life fit this woman that I want to spend my life with,
Starting point is 00:13:05 because I think you were on a little bit of a different path with your career. Yeah, I mean, when I, you know, I met Campbell, I was obviously in business school and law school, like I was probably going to be in New York or Hong Kong or London long time, like in private equity or investment banking or hedge funds or something like that, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:21 as a guy trying to build that type of life. And then when I met her instantly It's like okay. Well all the matters is her and us together and of course I ultimately still went into finance and still had a great career in finance But it's just different when you're approaching it from everything your goals your future plans You know yourself to being about you and your spouse together as a team. So you have mindset I mean immediately shifted to we're union. Let's do this together Yeah, that's that's what I was alluding to
Starting point is 00:13:45 is like the example earlier is like, you can use that kind of fuel to service yourself for a long time, but over a long period of time, and a lot of guys don't like me saying this, it starts to become empty. Like you start to do all the things and you look around and you're like, okay, what else? Like how many fancy dinners, how many nice bottles of wine,
Starting point is 00:14:03 how many nights out, how many different, like all the things. Oh out, how many different, like all the things. Oh my God, my life would be so empty without Campbell. Oh my God, yeah. When I met Lauren and I lay, when I got back with her, she would lay next to me in bed and snore like a wild beast.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I didn't have mouth tape then. It sounded like a chainsaw. Mouth tape changed my life and Michael's. And her mouth would hang open. And I stuck it through. And I feel like that says a lot. I thought you were gonna say you stuck it in. I did do that as well. I did that as well.
Starting point is 00:14:31 That is... You know what? That's efficient for me, because I'm sleeping. Whatever you gotta do. How old were you guys when you actually got together? Well, funny enough, we got together when we were 12. I looked over.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It's a little bit different story than yours, but I still think it's romantic. It's not, it's not, it's not. You tell it compared to that. I saw a fully developed form set of breasts. And I was. You saw my tits? I fell in love with my tits.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And I thought she was the substitute teacher. And I had like a sixth grade girlfriend at the time. I said, listen, lady, like you gotta go because I gotta go there. And we got together and it was, I would say it was hot and heavy fireworks. Her dad caught us in the closet, unclothed together at that age. And, um.
Starting point is 00:15:15 We were very mature at a very young age. And then, uh. Very mature. We, no, but, but joking aside, like there was always like, for whatever reason. So y'all were somewhat of an item from sixth grade onward. Yeah. And then we not together in high school and not together in college.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But like there was this thing where like we would always... We would sneak around. We would sneak around, we'd see each other, we'd like for whatever... Like we both dated other people. I used to be like, I'm coming over and then make him wait till five in the morning and never come. But joking aside... That works really well. They fall right in love with you. Okay, we used to wait hours to text me back.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yes, yes! The first couple months. I am being serious on some of the things I've said Okay, we used to wait hours to text me back. Yes, yes, yeah. The first couple months. I am being serious on some of the things I'm saying. And we need to talk about that. But in all seriousness, like, I was in love right away. And I chased her for a decade before she would take me seriously. So it was just after you guys finished college that you guys got together?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Right when we were, unfortunately, we had a friend get severely injured taking drugs. Like, you know, a person that we went, that we knew very well. And so she was in another state and what happened was he was in college with me. And when that happened, it kind of like created an opportunity. We were back to get sounds kind of messed up, but all of a sudden we were in the same city together again, in a very tragic moment.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You gave me an ultimatum. And no, we got back, but we've been together. You said this is the last time after 10 years I'm pursuing you. If you don't come to Vegas with me, then I'm never gonna text you again. By that point, I had some options. I was like, listen, you gotta get shit together.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I have some options too, though. Don't get your shit together. I'm like, it's been 10 years. I feel like that's the cutoff. But I said, if we get together, like, this is for good for sure And that we've been together I woke up in Vegas with a pink tiara sparkles all over on my head with a bottle of pink sparkly wine next to Michael naked and I was like
Starting point is 00:16:57 Okay It's a similar love story to you guys. No, we didn't have sex though Well made similar in the sense that you guys have been together off and't have sex though. Well, I mean, it's similar in the sense that you guys have been together off and on for a very, very long time and that you knew deep down. That's what I think. I think you both said that obviously, you're each the one. But to your point, I think when you find your person,
Starting point is 00:17:17 and like joking aside, like I think, I always knew that she was my person, if that makes sense. And so like I was laser focused and when I would, I feel bad now, and I've talked about this openly for years, like I would date other women, but I knew it was not that feeling. And so it was kind of these empty relationships, which were maybe unfortunate in some of the behaviors
Starting point is 00:17:35 of the past and some of those conquests. Another interesting thing is that you actually, ultimately when you truly got together, it was right around the same time we did just after college. Like again, I was in grad school, so I was 25, Campbell was 23. It sounds like pretty similar timing actually. That's kind of an ideal time in a way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:50 You're both like young adults that can truly start building your life together. What were you doing career-wise at the time he comes up to you? So that's when I was a flight attendant. So I had, I went to college and then I moved to Philly. I was based in Philly with American and that's, I was a flight attendant. Oh, I thought you said you were a flight attendant. She was a flight attendant. No, no, I was in business school and law school.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I was confused when you said that. I would have loved to story with you if you were a flight attendant. No, I thought you said I was in business school and law school and I was a flight attendant. And I thought you were a flight attendant. And Campbell was a flight attendant. Yeah, I was.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You're like, I was doing multimillion dollar deals and moonlighting as a flight attendant. I know, I'm like, geez, you're a big, so no, I literally made no money. I had no money. I lived in a not so safe area. She lived in West Philadelphia, like Fresh Prince of Bel Air, West Philadelphia, born and raised.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That's where she was living with two other flight attendants. So I had no money either. I was a poor grad student. Yeah, no, but I did have free, I had free plane tickets. That's funny. And we took full advantage of those free plane tickets. We went to like 20 countries the first 18 months we were together. We did.
Starting point is 00:18:48 That's a total perk at that age. Like that sounds like the best. Absolutely. I do. Like, yeah, I had my first choice job locked up like way in advance of graduation, so I had the time to do whatever I had my signing bonus from work, so I had some cash and then she had the free plane tickets. So yeah, it was quite a recipe and we went to literally like 20 countries in 18 months.
Starting point is 00:19:01 She had the free plane tickets. So yeah, it was quite a recipe. And we went to literally like 20 countries in 18 months. So before we get into your career and how it's been, it's sticky to me is like the right word. But before that, what did your life look like? Like what is your life look like before social media when you guys are a couple? I think people are curious about that.
Starting point is 00:19:21 We had- I mean, it's not that different than what we show now, really, we've lived this insane life the whole time. But I mean, really, when we were living in Philadelphia together, he didn't even have Instagram. He didn't even have an iPhone. Literally. Literally, I had to drag him to Verizon
Starting point is 00:19:37 to get him an iPhone. The texts were green, like- Yeah, and I remember he posted our first official photo and I was like, yes, I won. This is a huge accomplishment. But no, our time in Philly before we got engaged was like pure bliss. We talk about it now as like this was
Starting point is 00:20:00 the best time of our life. It really was. Even though we didn't have all the things that we have now, it was such a simple life, and we enjoyed every second of it. We slept in, did everything together, traveled the world together with whatever little money we had, and it was incredible.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So at what point do you decide you want to go into social media? Yes. So I had always kind of wanted to go into social media. My mom was in fashion and I had always wanted to start posting my outfits on Instagram. I was really nervous. I felt like people would judge me and he really, really encouraged me to start posting. So in 2017, I told him, I kept talking about it and he's like, if you don't do it, I'm
Starting point is 00:20:44 going to just post for you. So I started posting my outfits every day and it kind of just took off. That started in what, like 17? 2017, we got married in 2018. But I mean, a very small scale. You know what I mean, she built this from- Oh yeah, everyone starts at a small.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Like you have to, you start with nothing. Yeah, you have to start. So after I finished grad school, we moved to New York, started my career on Wall Street. Then we moved to Houston, Texas, because I was doing oil and gas investment banking, M&A. And then we moved to Atlanta. I guess it was around the time we moved to Atlanta
Starting point is 00:21:14 is probably when you started posting your outfits and whatnot. And you know, she's making a little bit of money here and there. And then in 2020, again, she was doing like random corporate jobs as well. And then in 2020- Yeah, I got fired random corporate jobs as well, and then in 2020... Yeah, I got fired from a few jobs.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's true. Pinky's not really employable. Actually, I didn't get fired. I only got fired from one job. So anyway, then in 2020... It's okay. I'm not employable either. Yeah. And so then in 2020, we met another influencer, a girl named Chelsea, who had been very successful. She had already gotten to the point where she was making over a million dollars a year as an influencer, this is in 2020. And she identified us, I guess, from a distance and kind of made sure to meet us. And she pulled us aside and was like, listen, y'all are just made for this.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You have to go full-time with this. Forget about your corporate job, Campbell. Go full-time with social media. She was such a good salesman. She convinced both Campbell and me, like, okay, yeah, Campbell, quit your job. Let's just do this full time. And immediately she was making like three to five X from social media, which she was from a corporate job. You also, you bought into what I was doing. He believed in me.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Definitely. If he didn't, if I didn't have him supporting me, it's not so easy to just, oh, me quit my job. And you know, he was, he had bought in, he believed in what I was doing. He saw that people, you know, I was, you know, gaining followers, gaining, you know, business opportunities. Honestly, she should be a star. I mean, yeah, she's just such an amazing person.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And then- She does look like a Disney princess. She is a Disney princess. You mentioned that earlier. Yeah, you do look like a Disney princess. And so that started in 2020, but it was still all photo-based. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:40 So to complete the story, so it's all photo-based still on Instagram still. And then by the time we get to late 2023, she changed her life forever once again. She decided to shift her content from being mostly photos and mostly of herself and her outfits, to then outfit videos of us together. And that combination of us on video together is what revealed our authentic love to the world and it just instantly exploded. So that's late 2023 and the last two years of our life have obviously been a total blur.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So when you, the first time that you put him on, was the response crazy or did it take time to have momentum? So I would always post him on my stories. Like I would always post our, you know, us like kind of like back and forth or like him complimenting me or doing something nice for me, I would post on my story, but it would never make it to like my feed. And my followers would always be like, oh my God, like I want a man like that. Where do I get a man like that?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Like he just loves you. And I'm like, he really, I'm so lucky he really does, but like you deserve that love too. And I could tell that people were really picking up on it and people were like really engaged with this content whenever I would show him. So I was like, we've got to get this out on my feed. Like we need to get this on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:23:48 We need to get this in video format because this is not something that was just like created for, you know, social media. Like he's genuinely doing this stuff. Like we would go out to dinner and get dressed up and he would be like- Oh, the best stuff isn't even on camera. Why?
Starting point is 00:24:02 I don't know what that means. Are you guys going to release a little X-ray? No, no, no. No, that would... No, I'm just saying like the compliments and all the things I've done before, that's constant. No, I will say when I walked in, I thought you were gonna call her Campbell off-air and you called her Pookie. It was really cute. I only call her Campbell when I'm mad at her. Oh. What do you get mad at her for? Yeah, what gets him mad? Not a lot anymore. It used to frustrate me how she always makes us late to everything.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Uh-oh. It takes her forever to get ready. I was late. But then years ago, I just totally gave up on being on time. I know that we're going to be late to every single thing. Anyone that spends time with us, I mean, if it's business- You guys were on time today. If it's business, we'll be on time.
Starting point is 00:24:43 If anything else, we'll never be on time. All our friends know that. Our family knows that. I know that. So I just don't let it bother me. What's funny is she still gets stressed out about being late. And I'm like, well, there's clearly nothing that can be done about it, babe. So we just have to accept it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I told Michael to get Yes Dear tattooed on his ass. Of all the tattoos I have, that's like the one I would never see. I know, maybe you should put it on your forehead. You think I'm just standing in a mirror and bending over looking at my ass all day? I wanted yes, dear on his ass. I agree, if you're dating someone who's late, there's nothing you can do. You just have to be stoic. I accepted it years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't get mad anymore. I'm not a quitter, though. No, okay, well you should take a tip. What's funny is she'll get mad and stressed out when she's making a slate, and then she gets upset that I'm not mad and stressed out. Yeah, I get mad that he's not like... Do you know what that's called? Emotional residency. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 So emotional residency is when you're upset and you want the person to match your emotion and if they don't match it, you get even more upset. It's exactly what she does every night is she's getting ready and making a slate. Well, because I have a... I feel bad. I'm like like I might be late, but I genuinely am sorry like I feel guilt He doesn't He's like just they there's just the walls of the universe and pinky can never be on time That's just the way that we want that he diffuses it. We all you a flight attendant if you can't be on time Oh my god. She was the world's worst She would work like three days a month calling sick and we'd fly to Paris the same day. She'd be like supposed to go to Cleveland she'd call in sick and
Starting point is 00:26:09 then two hours later we'd board a flight to Paris flight first class for free. I hope American. That was our life for the first year and a half. They should put you in an ad they should put you guys here's my pitch putting it into the ether. It should be you two on first class flying to Paris and him serving you you're the butler jet would do it He's the butler and they should do a whole ad around you guys because you used to be a flight attendant I don't know why they haven't called us We fly Delta constantly Send them to me I think that's an eight figure deal. Yeah, I concur
Starting point is 00:26:37 We now it's official we did we get a big on that He you even flew he would fly without me, so he was my registered companion. So if you know anything about flight attendants or the way it works, it's like you're registered. I thought that's a dog. You're a registered companion. So your registered companion gives you flight attendant status even if you're not with the actual flight attendant. So he was flying without me.
Starting point is 00:26:57 So I could fly first class to Hong Kong for free even without her and I did. Wow. That's a good perk, damn. It was amazing. I was working during that time. I mean, I was working while you were having fun in Hong Kong. Wait a minute, they let you just, even if you're not with the companion, they let you just like jet around the world?
Starting point is 00:27:10 So you could, as a flight attendant American at that time, at least, you could designate one person, it could be your husband, it could be your mom, whoever, as your registered companion, which gave them your same status, even if they weren't with you. Yeah. It's like a total hack. Anyway, that's all like eight to 10 years ago. But yeah, it was amazing.
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Starting point is 00:32:22 And if you guys don't like it, you can return your Jolie for a full refund within 60 days. No questions asked. Because of your job, Jett, are you really good with the finance side and the operations and logistics? And has he been helpful to what you're doing with that? Definitely. He's definitely the brains in all of this. Not the brains, I just mean like, is he, it sounds like you're really financially literate because of what you do. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So yeah, I do emergency acquisitions, that's what I've done my whole career. When we first exploded like a year and a half ago, the first thing I was like, well, we got to find a team. And the first thing I was like, well, we gotta find a team. And the first thing I needed was a lawyer. And so in all of these managers and agents of Beverly Hills and lawyers and PR firms, I mean, we're all calling us. I mean, I'm talking dozens of emails and phone calls.
Starting point is 00:33:14 It was insane. Sharks in these waters, buddy. Yeah, and we had to navigate all that, navigate those waters, figure out, the first thing I wanna do is hire the right lawyer. I wanna learn the new everyone so that she can help me vet everyone else as we built the team. Smart.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Because we built an entire team within a couple of months of the explosion, but we were very, very selective. I mean, we literally interviewed every major talent agency, every management company, every PR firm, and you built the whole team. And so that was the first way when I really started adding my business background and expertise to this. Because the first thing to do in any venture is to build the right team.
Starting point is 00:33:49 No matter how talented or smart or hard working anybody is as an individual, without a team, they're not going to be able to accomplish a lot. Humans have to collaborate. So we built an amazing team. We did that together. We've continued to optimize the team over the last year and a half.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And we really love the team we've built. And they're a huge part of our success. And what do you focus on? I'm sure the audience would love to know things that they don't get to see on social media What is your focus on like content creation? What what is your your energy go? My energy goes mainly to content creation. So I work it's a it is a lot of work, you know We want to stay true to ourselves We want to post content that is true to us But you know, we also want to post things that are trending or you know be in the know of what's happening
Starting point is 00:34:30 So my focus is really like kind of balancing how much content we put out that is Sponsored content or our authentic content original content like trending topics type thing. So that's where a lot of my you know day-to-day Mind is going. What would people be surprised to know about you two? Because I can tell, yes, you guys have put your relationship out there, but there's also a privacy, I'm sure, and there's stuff that you guys keep sacred. What would people be surprised? I don't know if they would be surprised, but we spend every moment together.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I don't think that would surprise anyone. Okay. I don't know if they would be surprised, but we spend every moment together. I don't think that would surprise anyone. Okay, I don't know if that, is that a secret? I don't know. There's someone I've heard in a short amount of time. We spend a lot of moments together. We're like, okay, so he went to go get something the other day from CVS and he was like, I could tell he wanted me to come with him.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Oh no, that's not, wow, okay, I'm not going to see you. It was probably the first time that we'd been apart for even like an hour in like over a week probably. Yeah. Love a little codependency. Constantly. Yeah. You guys like to be together though.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I wouldn't even say it's a dependency thing, it's just that we love being together. And I think that that is the key to marriage, what you just said. I like to be around my husband. So I remember early on in our relationship, when I was like 21 and 22, I would get invited to like girls sleepovers or like bachelorette
Starting point is 00:35:55 parties or whatever. And I didn't want to go. I like sleeping next to Michael, even when we were dating, like I just liked to be with him. Of course. And I think sometimes there's relationships, and I'm sure you guys have seen this, where people don't like to be together.
Starting point is 00:36:10 They might like the idea of marriage or to say they're married, but they don't like each other. Oh, it's so sad, yeah. Yeah, that's true. And we have actually made, we love being together, and we've really made a conscious effort to put people in our life that want to be together that are couples and That is so important
Starting point is 00:36:28 especially when you are looking for the right person like kind of associating yourself with couples that like being together that aren't talking Stop talking about each other behind their back I don't let her go hang out with girls that complain all the time And I say that like I know that's like a lot of women don't like. Yeah, I recently really don't. I got no patience for it. I'm like, if you want to go hang out with the gals that are clucking about how terrible their husbands are, like, can't go, you're gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And I don't put my foot down a lot of things because I don't want that. And vice versa, imagine I'm going and hang out with a bunch of guys, like, hey, let's go like find some other women and like screw your wife. Like, I don't like that energy. It's not respectful. I agree. You know, like whenever I see couples doing that, I'm like, well, listen, like you're around a bunch of people that hate their marriages and hate their spouses and don't want to be around there complaining all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It's not healthy. It's not. Maybe it sounds sexist saying that, but like, I don't allow that energy. Whether it's bad energy coming from a girl or from a guy, either way, you don't have that bad energy in your life. Like we have made a huge effort, especially recently. Same deal. Like I put my foot down and then she totally agreed.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And we have, again, as a union, we are not going to have any bad energy in our life, whether it doesn't matter if it's a guy or a girl, whatever, a couple, it doesn't matter. We cut out all bad energy from our life. We don't care how successful somebody is. We literally don't care if they're a billionaire. It doesn't matter if they're bad energy. They're not in our life period. By the way, even in the company, I tell people in this culture all the time, I said, I don't
Starting point is 00:37:44 care how high of a performer someone is if they're Constantly complaining constantly negative constantly undermining people like they got to go Like I don't I don't care if they're the best salesperson or the best producer in the world They can't be in the I mean it literally impacts your mental health to be around the negative energy and then ultimately it impacts your physical Health I think that they always say protect your peace I think if you decide to get married you have to protect your marriage and if we had this girl on that was like oh You know I'm divorced now and we talked to her about you know before she got divorced and she said she was hanging out
Starting point is 00:38:16 with all of these women that would sit around and complain about their husband and It does rub off on you. And my thing is, if you're going to complain or cheat on your spouse, you're sure as hell going to do it in other areas. And you're sure as hell out of integrity in other areas. If I hear someone complaining about their spouse to me, they're going to turn around and talk shit about me. Like, I just feel like there's a lot of like synergistic traits in that.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I agree. I agree. Yeah, I mean, we want to be around people that we make them better and they make us better. And that's the... But you leave dinner feeling like... Energized. That was amazing. Like let's do that next week. Yeah, and we're blessed to have a lot of amazing friends that do that for us and we do that for them. I mean it used to be a two-way street. Like we collectively all make each other better. No different than Campbell and I make each other better. I mean listen, when Lauren and I got together and we got serious and I've been young,
Starting point is 00:39:05 like, I have to be okay that I'm not getting invited on all the crazy guys trips any longer. And I'm not out to go and have the guys' night ever. Like, maybe once in a while, but... You know, a lot of my friends that haven't been able to, like, let go of that, have they gone into marriage, it's made it really difficult. It's like, you're not gonna see me out at 2 a.m.
Starting point is 00:39:22 at a bar without my wife. Like, it's just, it's just a, it's a really difficult strain to put on any relationship. You know what I mean? Like, if you just saw me wandering around a bunch of nights a week out in nightclubs without my wife, you're like, well, that is, that's a weird look. It's a little suspicious.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And same thing with her. Like, if you're out all the time with the girls, just like slamming wine at the wine bar, and you're like, not with your husband. You know where you will find me though out perusing around the foot spa Oh, I think like like her mouth or Chanel. No the foot spa and no more lunches at the strip club like Happen there's no more. There's no more Steak I'm sorry. You'll have to you'll have to give that up What advice would you guys have to give that up.
Starting point is 00:40:05 What advice would you guys give to someone who wants to launch today? Because it's a different time. What would you guys say? What do you mean by launch? Launch an Instagram, post their husband, like post content. I feel like you guys are really great people to ask. If someone's gonna launch an Instagram or a TikTok
Starting point is 00:40:23 right now, what are the tips? I mean, it needs to be as authentic to you as possible. Yeah, I mean, I think that's, that's kind of common sense, but it really does. Like you're going to get burnt out so fast if you're not super passionate about what you're posting and that you feel good and that people, people like get that it makes you feel good and it makes them feel good. They're going to keep coming back for more if they can tell that it's really resonating with you and you're passionate about it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So I would say be passionate about it and be authentic and also be consistent. You really need to kind of just run with it. Try different things. Post every day. See what works. But you have to be passionate about it. It's funny, we had a guy on Happiness, come on the podcast, Arthur Brooks, and he said that women want adoration and men want admiration. And when talking to you guys, that's exactly what you guys do. I don't even know if you knew that, but you
Starting point is 00:41:24 give her adoration. Yeah, I agree with that concept. And I agree that that concept is true. And I agree that Campbell and I definitely do that for each other. Yeah, he said that's the key to happiness. Yeah, women want to be adored, men want to be admired, 100%.
Starting point is 00:41:35 If anyone is in the bathroom with their spouse, turn it up when I just said that, put it real loud on speaker so they can take a hint. Yeah, but the biggest thing that we got from him is that it's a two-way thing. You cannot adore her if she does not respect and admire you. And you don't want to be adored by someone that you don't respect.
Starting point is 00:41:56 You know what I mean? Yeah. And so what happens is that he was saying, it's like this downward spiral. It's like you stop adoring her, you stop admiring him, and then it just gets worse and worse and worse and people dig in further and further and further. Yeah, he is the best man I know. Oh. He really is. Well, you're certainly the best woman I know.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Oh my, they just did it. And now it's your turn. My husband is a hot hunk with a big, big personality. And I'm still getting it on this far into the pregnancy. Hot on hot. It's like a whale on this far into the pregnancy. It's like a whale. It's interesting. The first pregnancy, isn't it? It definitely didn't slow him down. It was great. No, it was great. Uh, the first few months I would take clear were amazing. Um, and then, and then towards the end and all the way, you know, post pregnancy, like it just made her body even hotter. It really did. I actually, for years, for years I would tell her
Starting point is 00:42:46 and I meant it and it's absolutely true, for years I would say how excited I was for her post-pregnancy body. He always said that and I was like, what do you mean? Like he means like, Curb Jessica Rabbit. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Men like a little badunka-dunk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 They need something to hold onto. Yeah. So for years I've been excited about the post-pregnancy body and all my dreams have come true. I'm so happy your fairy tale is happening for you. I don't you. I feel about you using the term, but donka-dunk is that the wrong term? I just don't I just I feel like just sounded strange. Okay, well some cushion for the push You know with how you just in case you're getting wild you almost fall off you need something to grab right on there Okay, well you've got something to grab on to right now. Let me's like you know I made him wear. I made him wear the pregnancy suit
Starting point is 00:43:30 He hasn't done that you should do it know that is it's like you can order it And it's like a 50 pound pregnancy suit. It's not that hard to be honest You could do it deep pound and maybe 40 I gained 60 pounds my first pregnancy so so he got out. I think you only gained like 25 pounds? No, more than that. You don't need to know how much she gained. She didn't gain. When they weighed me, I'm like, get the fuck out to him. I'm like, get out.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Oh, I gained a pound in five weeks. Yeah. All right. Comments. So you guys get tons of comments. People are so engaged. How do you guys deal with negative comments? Do you guys not even look at it?
Starting point is 00:44:08 So, it's a good question, because this applies, so, it also, this applies way beyond social media. Like any form of success, whether it's business success, athletic success, it doesn't matter what type of success, you're gonna attract super lovers and super haters. And it's just a sign of your success. So that's the first thing to keep in mind.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And then, you know, like Joe Rogan for years would say, don't read the comments, kids. I think we kind of started out mostly not reading it. Then I went through a phase where I felt like I could learn from the comments. Like I could get a sense of like what they want to see next or like play off things that were in the comments. You could even like get ideas from it. So there was a time when I was, I was doing that and there was definitely some truth to that.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I think now we're at a stage where we just kind of laugh at the negative comments and how ridiculous they are. They pretty much all stem from a place of jealousy. It's just part of being successful in any endeavor. I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's and I think if somebody Feels that way about you like there's something wrong with them internally They have an internal problem if they have something negative to say about someone they don't know It is wild some of the things they come up with which again are hilarious in some cases
Starting point is 00:45:19 They'll be like, oh if they don't have any furniture in their house It's like really like do you actually follow us? But with this totally made up rumors that they, I mean, they're, you know, there's that 1% troll or whatever, 0.1% troll, but it's just funny that they will come up with very specific things to say that we find hilarious that are obviously not true. But it's just like, wow, how did you come up with that idea to be your troll comment?
Starting point is 00:45:40 I used to do the same thing. Like in the early days of this show, I used to go in and read something like I wonder like there's some constructive stuff there maybe an idea like same thought process right now like I just you can't because there's There's just so much Bullshit out there and gibberish and incoherent thought processes And it just what I realized is it really if you're if you're thinking about that stuff too constantly in your and you're paying too
Starting point is 00:46:04 Much attention it really takes you out of what you really need to be focused on, which is putting out useful content or information or things that serve the people that are actually there. And to your point, you're never, like, no matter what you're doing online, if you put yourself out there in any way, there's always gonna be a segment of people
Starting point is 00:46:19 that are upset. And we had, who was it, was it, we had Pierce Morgan on yesterday. It's an interesting character. And he was saying that- We actually saw him yesterday. We saw him yesterday. We should all sat down and had a souffle together.
Starting point is 00:46:31 That would have been interesting. But he was saying like, you know, 20% of the world is on these platforms and then 10% of that are the ones that are actively engaged in this. Typically the loudest, most angry 10%. And you just gotta like kind of keep that in constant where if you walk around in the streets, like normal people and just say hello to regular people,
Starting point is 00:46:49 most people are very pleasant and very happy and very kind and have good intentions. And so you just kind of like have to have that perspective. Like you have to keep in mind, like what kind of individual is spending their time going and yelling at strangers? Like it's just like, look at that. It's wild to think about.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I mean, I have never made a negative comment on anyone's social media post in my life Why would anyone do that? In the Beverly Hills Hotel enjoying your souffle as you were and I popped it out of no where's like you have no fucking furniture Somebody would come and arrest me and take me to an asylum. You know what I mean? Like it's insane. Yeah, I think the reason they make some of their troll comments So specific is because the troll thinks that people are more likely to believe it if it's a very specific thing And it's just so twisted that that's the way they think but yeah I think as we're saying I think you mostly ignore it and then if you do see a negative comment just laugh about it It's also like we meet so many people in person and it is the best part of what we do. They're all nice. They are the nicest.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Literally I was just in the bathroom. I had two girls say that I inspired them to be a working mom and it's literally gonna make me cry because they're so nice. It is nice. They're so nice. I mean literally in person 99.9 maybe even .99 I mean that literally I think in 99.9, maybe even 0.99, I mean that literally. I think in the last two years of all the thousands and thousands of people we've met, there's maybe like one or two negative reactions.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's like, it is over 99.9% positive. And yeah, they literally make us cry sometimes. I mean, it is incredible. They say that we give them inspiration to find the type of love that we have or hope to build the type of love that we have, or they say that we make their day or we make their spouses day. It is unreal and some of them get really over the top with it, but it can make our day sometimes. It's the best part of what we do because when you're out in public, you can really see how much of an impact you're making on someone's life.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah, because that's our goal. And that means everything to us. Well, I will tell you, I told you this, the whole office in Austin and Los Angeles, we're so excited that you guys were coming in. It's not... There's a lot of different people that come in and out of here, not just our show, for all the shows. And you guys were quite the hit.
Starting point is 00:49:00 No, and as I've gotten to know both of you here in this short period of time, I like what you're doing a a lot because to your point in the very beginning of the conversation, there's a ton of negativity. You don't have to search for it. It's readily available for anyone that opens any kind of screen on any kind of platform. And I think, you know, what our experience has been, especially doing the show and talking to as many people as we had, like most people are good people with good intentions that want to put good things into the world. And that's the high majority of people that we meet out when we're running around. And I think it's a good thing to kind of bring that kind of stuff to attention and kind of minimize
Starting point is 00:49:32 some of the negativity out there because it's readily available. But I do think it is the minority of people that think that way and want to live that way. Yeah. I mean, as I said at the beginning, we as humans are just biologically programmed to focus on the negative because it used to be a survival instinct. Otherwise, you'd literally get eaten by a tiger or starved to death in the early days. But because of that, the media of all kinds, whether it's a newspaper, whether it's a magazine, whether it's a major broadcast news network or whether it's social media, they all prey on our negativity bias is what it's called.
Starting point is 00:50:00 They use our negativity bias to addict us, to drive up viewership. They've done it for literally thousands of years. That's what the media has always done and but you're right that makes it seem like the world is this extremely negative place But it's actually just because it's a manipulation technique that magnifies the negativity addicts us to the negativity and in that landscape We are a source of positivity and love and family values and we authentically love out loud And that's what makes us stand out because Because in the media landscape, broadly speaking, and the social media landscape specifically, either way, it's a negative landscape.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And us loving authentically out loud is a bright light. And that's what makes us unique, different, and that's what makes us successful. You know, I think a lot of times you need to focus on whatever is that makes you unique, whatever you're doing, whether you're an investment banker, whether you're a social media star, doesn't matter. Like you find out something, find is that makes you unique, whatever you're doing, whether you're an investment banker, whether you're a social media star, doesn't matter. Like you find out something, find something
Starting point is 00:50:48 that you do uniquely, something that's unique about you and like use that unique element to your advantage. And yeah, we hear, that's what we hear when we meet people in person too, is like this content made them feel good. It made them feel happier. Yeah. And that is what keeps me going. That's what makes me feel good
Starting point is 00:51:06 That is really that's my purpose. You know what made me happy When you pushed out a baby and there was a big orange box waiting for you If anyone's looking for any ideas, I do like to give picky gifts. Yes, I like to receive gifts I do want you to wrap it in cellophane because I get nervous about the hospital. Oh I like get nervous about the germs but you could take some inspiration. Yeah, no fucking orange boxes. I noticed your orange box bag when you walked in.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah, we have matching over there. So I'm sure you got plenty of them. I hit the wrong switch in the house and orange box flies and hits me in the face. It's an investment! Let me tell you something about this. No, I can curse. He totally agrees. Especially with certain brands. No, I can curse. Let me tell you something about this. No, I concur. Especially with certain brands.
Starting point is 00:51:46 No, I concur. Let me tell you something about these investments though. It is an investment. They're investments if eventually you sell them. Right, they're never getting sold. Well, this is my plan. I'll expose my plan. I want to get as many as possible so in case you die, I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I swear to God. Everyone thinks I'm joking when I say this. It's like your insurance policy. I'm dead serious. I swear to God, everyone thinks I'm joking when I say this. I'm dead serious. In case something happens to you, I have all my little, like a squirrel collects acorns. That's one of my little acorns. If all of a sudden the orange box market gets flooded with things, you'll know I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:52:18 You'll know I'm finished. That's hilarious. Yeah, I often refer to her bags as stranded assets. Yeah. That's the technical term in the finance world, a stranded asset, meaning it will never be sold. Yeah, it's never getting sold. You know what I think?
Starting point is 00:52:32 I've like analyzed it. I think that the comments that you guys are getting are because there is some people that are unhappy in their own marriage and they're just like projecting that onto you because they see a happy marriage. That's where I would think they're coming from. That's definitely where some of it comes from and just jealousy in a broader sense,
Starting point is 00:52:52 whether it's for, because of our lifestyle, whatever it is. I mean, I think it's mostly irrelevant, you know? Yeah, I also think that like, maybe people don't believe that we're really in love. Like maybe that's what that, or maybe that's what they feel maybe that that's what they feel. But like. It's I hate to break it to your reddit. They're in love. They're in love.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Everyone on Reddit, I've seen them in person. I saw off. They're in love. We're totally obsessed. We're in love. And again, we really feel that our purpose is to put our love into the world as inspiration for others. Like we want to we want to into the world as inspiration for others. We want to have a positive impact on the culture. When I see whether social media stars or musicians or whatever, any famous person, we all collectively
Starting point is 00:53:33 help shape the culture. And to the extent that we can, I want to positively shape the culture, positively shape it, make it something we're proud of, create a media landscape that we all want our kids to grow up in. We also want to encourage people to be in love. Yeah. And to get married and to have kids. I mean, again, we want to positively shape the culture. It's love, positivity, and family values.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And to us, family values means that it's no longer you and her, it's you together as a union. And that's exactly what we want to put out into the landscape. Let's talk about Armra Colostrum. Ever since Lauren and I had the founder of Armra on this podcast and discovered the incredible benefits of Armra Colostrum, we have not been able to stop talking about it. We live in an environment our biology was never designed for. EMFs, artificial light, seed oils, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, chronic stress, you name it, it is bombarding our systems. These modern assaults disrupt cellular signaling, negatively impacting gut health, and accelerating aging, which nobody wants.
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Starting point is 00:56:04 I've done so many things to clean up my sleep hygiene and back When I was living in LA, I was not sleeping nearly as well as I sleep now. I've done so many things to clean up my sleep hygiene. And back when I was struggling to figure out how to sleep better, I was looking for the perfect supplement. That's when I found Beam Dream Powder. And let me tell you, it changed everything. Dream is an all-natural sleep blend with science-backed ingredients like Reishi, magnesium, L-theanine, apigenin, and melatonin. It's designed to help you fall asleep, stay asleep, and wake up feeling refreshed. This is so important. If you get proper sleep, you're gonna have more energy, you're gonna get better workouts, you're gonna think better, you're gonna be more effective, your hormones are gonna be balanced.
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Starting point is 00:58:35 therealreal.com slash skinny. That's the realreal.com slash skinny. You get $25 off. Start shopping now at the realreal.com slash skinny. How has your life changed since you guys had a baby and became parents? What's the differences? We love it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 We're so happy. And does the baby go with you? Are you posting her on social media a lot? How do you think about all of this? It's a lot for sure. I think we didn't really know how we would share her and I think that's just always going to be evolving. But she's a part of our family and she's everything to us
Starting point is 00:59:10 so we're obviously going to share her but we definitely have to balance that properly and we don't wanna only share her or we want to make sure she fits into our life and we want her to travel with us. We want her to be ever like growing. And yeah, she really is the ultimate travel companion. Yeah, she's with us right now in LA and we took her to Aspen a couple of months ago.
Starting point is 00:59:34 And she's just so warm and so cuddly. And I mean, literally on the flight out here to California, I held her for the entire like four and a half hour flight. And it just made the flight for me. She didn't make a beat. She's a very well behaved baby. baby. She's like the happiest baby She just smiles and laughs. Guys, come back on the podcast in two years. Yeah Enjoy this phase
Starting point is 00:59:54 They lay there in two years. No, but a boy is a boy is gnarlier than a girl. But around 18 months The flying gets interesting. I want to report after that. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. We're taking advantage of this special time now. This is actually a really fun stage. I personally am very excited to have a newborn, and it's so fun, because they just chill. So your first two are what genders?
Starting point is 01:00:18 I have a girl, just like you guys first, and then a boy. And I would say the girls, this is my experience, are more complex. So the hair has to be a specific angle and the bow has to be like this color. The outfits are a big deal. And then a boy is like really a presence. It's lumbering, but they're like more simple.
Starting point is 01:00:40 So it's a bull in a china shop. So it's just, it's different. Like we gotta think offense to fence to that, right Mike? What do you mean we're more simple? Oh, you guys are. I am so complex, Lauren. I have real thoughts and feelings and. How are you guys dealing with the fame
Starting point is 01:00:56 that's come along with this? When you guys are out to eat and people are coming up to you. Screaming at you about your one car. No, no one's saying, I don't think anyone's saying negative in person. How are you guys dealing with just like, you're getting recognized all the time?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Yeah, I mean, like Campbell said earlier, in a lot of ways it's the best part of it. I mean, certainly it can feel overwhelming at times, but we're very grateful for it. Yeah. I mean, you know, when we walk into a hotel lobby or down the street or in a restaurant, like, yeah, we have all these people coming up to us,
Starting point is 01:01:26 but literally 99.9% of it is unbelievably positive. Like things you can just never imagine that someone would say to you. And the fact that that's now or every day is just so special and we're so grateful. And it's evidence that we are positively impacting the culture, which is exactly what we want. We wanna be a source of love for people
Starting point is 01:01:43 and happiness for people and also family values. Our viewers appreciate that about us. As we're our peers in the industry, as I'm sure it happens with you guys, once you get into this space, you start to meet all your peers in this space. They all really recognize and appreciate that about us. We're very grateful for the impact that we're able to have. The fact that people would come up to me and say that I'm a positive role model for them is something that I never would have thought that would come from this.
Starting point is 01:02:11 And so I take pride in that. Like, I feel like I have something to live up to and that I have kind of a just a different role than I ever thought that I would have in social media world and that people look up to me and say that they want to be like me or you know have a child like mine is Something that's really endearing and I definitely take pride in that so being able to hear that in person is just like the best Part of all of this. It sounds like you get a lot of purpose from what I do. I really know from being a mom and also from from what you do. I do, I do. I really do.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You can tell. From being a mom and also from sharing our love and meeting people and telling them, for them telling us what an impact we've made on their life. Yeah, I mean, I think if you have real purpose in what you do beyond just the money and the fame, and again, it doesn't matter what type of career you have, if you have purpose then you're likely gonna be better
Starting point is 01:03:01 at that career and you're gonna enjoy it a lot more. So yeah, we're very blessed that we have what we think is a very high purpose to be a source of love and to help positively shape the culture and promote family values and people getting married and having kids. And none of it's in your face. It's just your authentic life.
Starting point is 01:03:15 But by putting our authentic life out there, all those things come with it. And we're very, very proud of that purpose. And we're very conscious of it. What I think is so interesting is Michael and I have interviewed a lot of different people and I've never heard someone come on and say, we're promoting the specialness of marriage and we're promoting love and we're like sort of, that's like the message.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I think that's really interesting and really cool. Thank you. People would be mad if I didn't ask beauty, hair, diet, secrets. You look amazing. Give us like, Yes, Jett, get into it. Give us something.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Well, lots of Mexican things. Jett, what's on your skin? Waffles. So Jett and I are both mouth tapers. Okay. We love it. That's recent, but we are. That's more recent, but now we like,
Starting point is 01:04:03 don't go to bed without mouth tapers. I have some mouth tape for you guys It's pink. Sorry, Jeff. No, I've actually used yours before Oh wow! Doesn't matter to me what color it is. I might need a picture of him in the mouth tape. I'm sorry You might have to capture that. I don't know about that one, but I know I have yours. Yours is actually the first one I ever used. It will go with your shirt Yeah, it's cute how you morphed it.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Because when we first got into that, she had some of yours, and so that's what I started out with. It works. What other than mouth tape, what else? I love to sauna. Okay. So we have a new sauna at our house. I love it.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And for Red Herb Arrel. It's a traditional finish sauna. Yeah, we have a sauna and cold plunge. I cold plunge every day. I can't get her into cold plunging, but she saunas with me. I think that it's funny, it's kind of hard after birth to get cold. It feels like off-putting. I am so cold-natured as a person. I'm rarely sweating. I'm cold before I even get in the cold plunge. That's why I can't do it. He's like, just do it. That's your BS excuse, baby. You should just do it.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And I'm like free, I'm like shivering outside of the cold plunge. Like how could I get in? I'm already cold. All right, but anyway, sauna, keep going. Sauna, I love Pilates. I do yoga, Pilates. Not, I'm just easing back into it now.
Starting point is 01:05:20 So I've really, really given myself grace since I've had my baby. I think it's it's so hard there's so many opinions on like when you should get back into working out and I've really given myself grace and I will say he has been so supportive of that and just made me feel so good in a time where your body is just not the same and It's actually even better. But yeah, I Mean not the same. And it can be hard. Well, it's actually even better, but yeah. I mean, it's something that- Right? I'm like, I need to lose 15 pounds.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Something that Campbell does that I think is a big key to her is her overall health is portion control. Like we constantly eat these insane extravagant dinners and meals and just like we show such to me, that's all real. I mean, we've always done that. We're obsessed with food and we have like really extravagant meals, but the. And just like we show, that's all real. I mean, we've always done that. We're obsessed with food and we have like really extravagant meals,
Starting point is 01:06:07 but the same time- I like to try it. That might be our only meal that day. Like we both eat very little for breakfast slash lunch. And we also intermittent fast. Like we don't eat till like 12 or even two. And then we might have like a little something at that time for breakfast slash lunch.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But then for dinner, we'll have like a really over the top meal, but the overall calorie consumption is not that high, because it was just one big meal a day for the most part. Before I got pregnant, I was extreme intermittent fasting, like 2 p.m. every day. Wow. 2 p.m. to like 8.30.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Intermittent fasting is the main health thing she does. What's the Pookie and Jet cocktail? Y'all have so many. We love cocktails. I love it. Jet loves a good cocktail. We're obsessed with the fear of wine cocktail. That's hard about pregnancy. No one talks about that, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's hard not to have a margarita. It's hard. It is hard. And anyone that doesn't say that is lying. That was my Pookie's least favorite part of being pregnant was no cocktail. I don't like to be drunk. I just like to enjoy a nice drink.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I'm glad you guys say this because some of this culture is quitting on us. We need, some of this alcohol consumption is plummeting. I just like what, a nice drink. I'm glad you guys say this because some of this culture is quitting on us We need this alcohol consumption to plummet. I just like Not for us or our friend group, that's for sure But yeah, we have seen that broadly test was like down 20% in the current generation. So you tell me your favorite cocktail Tell us your cocktail. Extra dirty martini blue cheese olives. Okay, my go-to with vodka. I mean I have a lot I Mean for years my go-to cocktail was a bullet right old-fashioned on a big rock Recently it's kind of a comedian
Starting point is 01:07:36 Seven like it's just we just got started like we should have a drink and then yeah when I can have a drink Last night you're in the hotel Polo Lounge, what's your first order? So the Polo Lounge yesterday, I had two of their cocktails off the menu with tequila based cocktails and also mezcal cocktail. But more typically I get, like I said, the old fashioned or recently I've been into Manhattan's Up, also with rye whiskey. I do paper planes with bourbon. I love tequila and mezcal as well.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Paper planes with grapefruit, right? No, no, paper plane, I actually don't know the recipe, but it's a very balanced cocktail. Like it's bourbon, but it's so balanced that even girls typically like it. I forget what's in it. I like it too. I think it actually has a little bit of Aperol, but the Aperol balances out with the bourbon. I don't normally like Aperol, but with bourbon it balances. Yeah, I mean, like I said, we're really into food, really into drinks, love wine as well. What about makeup hair
Starting point is 01:08:25 Do you do your own makeup? Do you have someone who helps you? What's a social media? I'm sure would love to know what's the mascara you use with these eyelashes. Tell us I typically do my own hair makeup Not today, but typically I do my own hair and makeup. I love a like blowout look That's kind of like my signature look. I love just like loose waves, kind of effortless look. And I typically- And I tell her she can get a blowout everyday if she wants. I love it too. That you want a blowout everyday?
Starting point is 01:08:54 No, no, that she can. I tell her that she can get a blowout everyday if she wants. And spray tan. Oh, I told Lone the same thing. I thought you said something different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I typically wear like no foundation. I like concealer, cream, bronzer. I like all cream products. Cream, concealer, bronzer, and blush. And then I'll like do a little bit of powder and then mascara. I love the, I use like a really affordable one, the M. Co. one. Your shout out to our partner, M. Co. Beauty. Shout out. Is that actually true? Because she has great eyelashes.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Yeah, I love the M.K. one. I use a lot of like, I feel like affordable mascara is the best mascara. Everyone needs to go run to listen to this podcast or rather watch this podcast on YouTube because the guys were just shaking their head. I was watching you guys both out of my peripheral. You're shaking your head when she's talking about cream bronzer. You guys have no fucking idea what she's talking about. What do you fucking want me to do, Lauren? When you go into these segments. Michael's like, oh talking about cream bronzer. You guys have no fucking idea what you want me to do Doing this fucking show for so long we go into these segments every time
Starting point is 01:09:54 When you go into the way, what's the beauty Okay, I'll sit here stone-faced yeah Michael's like, uh-huh. You know what be funny video segment is while this whole segments going on Maybe not for this show because we got to we got to see you but for maybe some other guests We can just have it zone in on me You know what I mean? And when they're going through the beauty you can just have it focus on my reaction the whole time I do have an idea for you. So no one thing that I do think is important to
Starting point is 01:10:20 Know for beauty in my mind a tan for me I need to have like a base base tan or a spray tan for sure, but I think that allows me to wear less makeup, and I personally love that. I feel more confident when I have less makeup on, but I have a tan. Yeah, totally. Especially when you're post-baby, a tan is great.
Starting point is 01:10:39 A tan, so. A tan is great. That's my tip. Yeah, I already mentioned that I said you can have a boy outlet every day if you want, a spray tint every day if you want, but my two piece of advice beyond that would be hair is most important. There's a reason in Hollywood they say hair and makeup. Like, I'm dead serious. Oh, we know. I can tell you're serious. If a woman wants to look her best, her hair has got to look good, period. So hair is the most important thing. and makeup, I feel like a lot of girls these days are wearing too much makeup.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Agreed. You know, Campbell just said that she likes to wear not that much, that's absolutely true, she doesn't wear that much. That's the way to go, that more natural look needs to come back. I think it kinda started to come back, and then it kinda faded, it needs to come back.
Starting point is 01:11:17 You know what I like to do to Michael? I like to look so ugly at the house. Like, ragged, disgusting, like so ugly, like the worst outfit, like horrible. And then I like him to leave. And then I like to go through the car wash, I call it and get ready.
Starting point is 01:11:36 And then I like to remind him who he married and walk in. I come in and I go, who the hell is that? It's like, I like the juxtaposition of it. I keep it on point always though. I do have an idea for you guys. And maybe you've already done this, but I think you guys should do this. I think that you guys should sit down and read all the crazy furniture comments and
Starting point is 01:11:59 read what people are saying that's so ridiculous. Like you know, have you ever seen on Jimmy Kimmel when like Kim Kardashian like reads all her crazy comments? Yeah, yeah. You guys have like the furniture one and the car one, like those are so funny. If you guys read them, people would just die laughing. Nothing like in the sports world, like they'll have like NFL draft picks do this,
Starting point is 01:12:18 like Tom Brady and greatest quarterback of all time. And he'll read like the draft notes from the combine. I'll be like, too skinny, too slow, can't jump, not athletic. I see you do that jump not athletic and it's like okay well he won seven Super Bowls I guess he's actually pretty athletic that's funny though it's like you guys have have built this you've put your love out there and people are talking about furniture and how many I think people would like it it'd be very funny to hear it with your we've actually thought about doing that you
Starting point is 01:12:44 should we might you should before you go is there anything you'd like to leave Maybe people would like it. It'd be very funny to hear it with your voice. We've actually thought about doing that. You should. We might. You should. Before you go, is there anything you'd like to leave our audience with? Any, like maybe one last line of advice from both of you guys? Yeah. So, I mean, as I said at the very beginning, my advice would be to everyone, both in your everyday personal interactions and in social media as well, authentically love out loud.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That's what the world needs. I'm sensing a book maybe. Him and her book. Same. You'll have to come back on the show once it comes out. That sounds great. Where can everyone find you, follow you? I'm sure they already do, but pimp yourself out. You can follow me at Campbell Hunt Pocket
Starting point is 01:13:19 on Instagram and TikTok. That's good, that's the main account. Oh, you don't have an Instagram? He does. He doesn't post. I do, but I don't really post, yeah. That's good. That's the main account. Oh, you don't have an Instagram? He does. I mean, I do. He doesn't post. I do, but I don't really post. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Huh. Yeah. I like that. That's unique. Well, listen. Is this the second podcast? Yeah, we did the Toast like six months ago. Toast is great.
Starting point is 01:13:35 That's a phenomenal show. You guys are naturals on a mic. Really good. For the second time, you would have never known. You would have think it was like the 100th time. Yeah. You guys are good on a mic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:42 This is awesome, guys. I knew it would be. Thank you.

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