The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Celebrity & Influencer Molly Sims On Body Image, Relationship Status, Beauty Hacks, & Diet
Episode Date: December 3, 2019#232: On this episode we sit down with Molly Sims. Molly Sims is an American model and actress. She has appeared in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue and played Delinda Deline in the NBC drama Las... Vegas. This is another well rounded conversation covering body image, relationship advice, beauty hacks, and diet routines. To connect with Molly Sims click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Joovv. Experience the benefits of red light therapy by one of the best in the business; JOOVV! To experience the Joovv and receive a free gift with purchase go to joovv.com/skinny This episode is brought to you by FOUR SIGMATIC We have been drinking this company's mushroom-infused elixirs and coffees for over a year now. When we need a break from coffee but still need that extra morning jolt and focus the Mushroom Coffee with Lion's Mane and Chaga is the way to go. Lauryn also drinks the Mushroom Matcha which is a green tea designed as a coffee alternative for those of you who want to cut back on caffeine without losing focus and cognitive boosts. This stuff doesn't actually taste like mushrooms, it's delicious. All of these blends have a ton of nutrients and amino acids to give you balanced energy without the jitters. To try FOUR SIGMATIC products go to foursigmatic.com/skinny and use promo code SKINNY for 15% off all products. This episode is brought to you by JustFab Get your first JustFab style for as low as $10 as a VIP! That’s 75% off your first item with my special link. Just go to JustFab.com/skinny to take advantage of this deal now. You can also get FREE shipping on orders over $39 and there’s absolutely no commitment when you purchase your first order! Produced by Dear MediaÂ
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She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie. And now
Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some
major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her.
Having someone help you, a food plan, whatever that accountability is,
you know, exercise. You're not going to want
to hear this, but 80-20. Again, it is discipline. It comes down to discipline. So if you want to
drink, then you ain't having the dessert. Know when you go to a restaurant, what you're going
to have before you get there. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Miss Molly Sims.
She is a badass. For those of you who are new to the show, I am Lauren Everts Bostic,
the creator of The Skinny Confidential, and across from me is my dapper husband in his vest.
What's happening over here? Well, you have to distinguish because there's no visual here.
What type of it's not a vest like a vest that you wear under like a cowboy. It's just like a vest.
No, it's not a Patagonia vest, but that's a good visual. It's not the brand Patagonia, but it's just a vest that is keeping
me warm. It's cold out. Listen, anytime it drops below 65 here in California, people don't know
what to do. People fly off the road. They go into a panic. They don't know what to do. They don't
know what to wear. Like we're not used to it out here. Don't be so judgy. You turned on the heater
last night when you were doing that stroller. Like I said, if people don't drop below 65 here
and we freak out, you know, Michael put together a stroller last night it was super interesting um he was actually really good at it listen there's a lot
of money in stroller businesses if i if i wasn't doing maybe i'll go into that business i was
looking at this thing yesterday there's a lot it's a lot of design a lot of work okay but you
know what's annoying i wish that they made everybody needs a stroller i wish they made
like a little uh thing that came off the stroller where you could put your chihuahuas.
Well, you probably, listen, you could probably get all of that.
Yeah. I mean, that would be really cute. You should design a stroller.
If the wheels fall off this podcast and dear media, maybe I'll just,
maybe I'll get in the stroller business.
Better yet, they should put a stroller where I can sit, where you push me,
the baby and the chihuahuas. If I do that, all the stroller companies better look out because I'm going to,
my stroller would be pretty good.
That would be so comfortable. You could put like a barefoot dreams blanket in it and a Tempur-Pedic pillow silk though. Uh, okay.
We're going to do the question of the week this week. And, uh, it's from at I rose pre-toe. I hope
I'm pronouncing that right. Not the best to pronounce. I'm sure you're not. Yeah. You know
what you guys, I'm about 50% of pronunciation. Okay. Well, pronunciation isn't my strong suit. I'm actually surprised you hit that one. Okay. This is what she says. How do you get over
insecurity and become confident when putting yourself out there on the internet? Well,
how do you learn? It seems like you have had that down for a while. I have not always.
I just put my blinders on in a way where I put myself out there day after day and made
a pack to myself that at a certain time every day I would do it.
So when I first started out, that time was like, I think it was like 4 p.m.
every day.
I would post all my social and pimp myself out and distribute my content.
I think if I spent my energy wondering about what other people think, I would be wasting my productiveness.
So if you're just starting, I would really put your blinders on, not give a fuck what anyone
else thinks. And if there are people that are trolling you, that are sitting and wasting time
writing rude things on your account, then feel bad for them. Because right now it's 2019 and
a big part of business in general is putting yourself out there.
That's such a vital part, no matter what business you do.
I think for some people out there, it's a little, you know, for you, you've always been
a confident person, but I'll give an example of myself.
My big, and I've talked about this on the show for a long time now.
My biggest fear four years ago, three years ago, right up until the point where we started
doing this show was public speaking.
And if you hear me now, you're like, maybe you don't believe that because you can't shut me up.
And I'm not somebody that gets scared of a lot of things, but it was something that I feared. I
don't know how I'm going to speak in front of people. I would always think I have to speak
at a wedding. Do I have to speak at a funeral? Do I have to speak at an event? And I just didn't
feel that I would be a confident speaker. What I found to be the best in order to beat down that
fear and to put myself out there was to do just that, to constantly put
myself out there, to constantly put content out to, you know, even little things like when you
used to put me on Snapchat, like getting on the Snapchat and talking, doing things like that,
where, you know, you're not in front of a huge audience and slowly over time, you've got to push
past the fear barrier and just put yourself out there. And what you realize is it's not that big
of a deal. People don't care that much. Maybe I blunder, maybe I say something, maybe I slip on a
few words here and there and people move on. Nobody cares that much
about what any of us are doing. And if they do care, like good. Even this show. I mean, people
listen to it. They're going to listen to the hour and then they're going to go focus on whatever
else they got going on the rest of the day. It's not, nobody's that focused on what you're doing.
It really isn't. And I'm just playing off what Michael said. It's practice. It's constantly putting yourself out there day after day after day in little ways. You know,
I think that you should set a goal. So say I want to create three pieces of content every single day,
set alarms in your phone and hold yourself to it. And we always talk about this. Ed Milet always
says that confidence starts with you. It doesn't start from getting confidence from other people. It starts from within. And confidence is a promise that you keep to yourself.
Hold yourself accountable to how much content that you decide to create every day. So if you say,
I'm going to create three pieces of content every single day. So you wake up at eight o'clock,
you create two Instagram stories of you talking to the camera. Then at one o'clock, you write a
blog post. And then maybe at six o'clock you write a blog post and then maybe at,
you know, six o'clock to wind down, you do a tick tock. I'm just, you know, making this up. You have
to do it, whatever works for you, but hold yourself accountable to those three times and, and don't
sort of wave from it. I also think it's so, and we talk about this all the time. It's like
doing what works for you and not listening to what outside noise, the outside
noise is what will get you distracted and drain your energy. Use that energy to put it into,
to invest in yourself and put yourself out there. And you'll work on your confidence day after day.
And you'll start to feel more and more confident as time goes on. For those of you that are sitting
there being like, Oh, it's easy for you to, to say this because you're already out here and you
have this platform. We very much intentionally left the first episodes that we did
of this show up and they're still available now. I hate to plug them, but for those of you that
haven't listened since the beginning and are wondering what the original content sounded like,
go back to the episodes one through four and listen how bad we were. I can go back now and
say we were bad, but the whole thing that we're talking about here is putting yourself out there,
improving little by little day by day, working on getting better, working on pushing past fear
barriers. And listen, those shows, those original shows are proof to that. I mean, if you look at
them, they're, like I said, they're pretty terrible. They're pretty bad. And listen,
when I first started putting myself out there with the Skinny Confidential 10 years ago, I was a fucking bartender, you know, working until one in the morning.
And I just decided to become a practitioner of my craft and just not listen to everyone
else and what everyone else said.
And when I told people that I wanted to be a blogger 10 years ago, they rolled their
eyes at me.
So I think it's about also really committing to your vision, believing in it and believing
in yourself.
You can't look for outside validation, if that makes sense.
And again, it's just practice day after day, rinse and repeat.
Speaking of someone who's done a very good job of putting themselves out there, Molly
Sims.
Before we get in to Molly, I just wanted to let you know we are doing a huge giveaway.
Thanks to Molly. She's giving away a 695 gold and diamond necklace, and you can get all the
details of how to enter at the end of this podcast. It takes five seconds. Molly Sims is an
American model and actress. She's appeared everywhere. You guys all know her, and she's
also an influencer. She has so many good tips and tricks. We're getting into everything from relationships to beauty to health to wellness.
You'll love it.
With that, let's welcome Molly Sims to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her podcast.
This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her.
We're just going to hop right into it.
Okay, we're going to hop, hop, hop.
Seven and a half months pregnant, about to give birth, like on the table.
Michael doesn't know what to do.
He doesn't.
He's asked me about my kids.
His eyes are really big.
How am I supposed to know?
I've never been through this.
You're not supposed to know.
Yeah.
You know.
But it is amazing.
I hate the word journey, but it is an amazing path.
I'm sure it's going to change some things.
It's going to change.
My husband and I got into the worst, worst fight of our lives. I'm like,
he was literally like trying to read the post or he was trying to like read the newspaper. I'm like,
what are you fucking doing? Your life as you know it has changed. He looked at me, he's like,
you're a psycho. And anyway, I've been into the other day, do a little bit. And normally she just
like picks at those things. And so I always can just take as much as I want.
I've been in it and I was like, started crying, started trying.
I started crying because he bit into the cinnamon roll.
It was too big.
It was too big of a bite.
I was bobbing and weaving, you know.
There's I mean, you're eating a cinnamon roll.
You're seven and a half months pregnant.
You're bloated.
You're cankles.
You're fucking water weight.
Your tits are huge.
They're watermelons.
Don't touch my fucking cinnamon roll.
Like, don't touch it. Don't it and i love the glaze like i'll make cinnamon rolls for the kids and like
i will literally like not put as much glaze on the cinnamon i guess i will for me then she posted it
and said that i stole her cinnamon roll and then all the women that on her own page started attacking
me saying like how dare you touch the cinnamon roll he stole the best part to the middle with
the glaze on it and it's the doughy undercooked middle part that's slightly warm is the single best thing ever.
Yeah.
And then he also decides that he is at this point in his life on his journey is going to lose weight.
My husband gained the 10 pounds.
Lucky.
Well, you know what?
You have muscles like ripping right now with your tattoos. Well, you know, she, she reversed psychology to me because she said, you know,
a lot of these men during pregnancy, they gain the maternity weight as well. And so that's been
sitting in my head since the beginning. I feel like if she wouldn't have told me, I would have
just got a big beer guy. I think you need to eat more. So what can we expect from having kids?
Give us the 411. I feel like you're very versatile.
You will never sleep again. You will have more guilt than you've ever even thought about having
guilt before. If you like are a guilty person at all in your life, you will never sleep. It's
like a form of torture. It's definitely like sleep deprivation is, is literally torture.
Even if you have a night nurse. Even if you have a night nurse.
Even if you have a night nurse.
Because you still have to get up and feed the baby even if you have a night nurse.
That means you physically have to get up, hold the baby.
But if you're not breastfeeding and you have a night nurse?
I'm trying to get best case scenario here.
Best case scenario would be C-section, night nurse.
You see the baby at like 6 p.m. the next day around 9. That's best case
scenario. That's the best case scenario. That would be the best case scenario. And C-section
over vagina. I don't know vagina experience. I unfortunately had to have a C-section all three
times because of just the way my baby was connected to me. And does it hurt afterwards?
Fuck yes. It's like a lightning bolt, especially where the incision
is on your lower
part. I don't think you want to do
that. I have no opinion.
The only opinion I have is I think I have
a small head because I think my mom tried to do it naturally
and she couldn't get it done. That opinion has nothing to do
with me giving birth.
Do you have a birth plan?
Kind of. We got a doula.
We got a night nurse. Do you work with birth plan? Kind of. Kind of. We got a doula. We got a night nurse.
Do you work with a doula now?
We just got her.
Yeah.
Like literally just hired her on Saturday.
So have you worked with her yet?
What does that mean?
Like, does that give you like, has she laid out what, you know, what you guys are going
to do?
How birth is going to go?
Kind of.
Kind of.
It's just the tip so far.
The whole penis hasn't gone yet.
I really enjoyed her.
It's just the tip.
It's just the tip.
Because she told me like, if I get hungry, she's going to take care of me.
And if I need to take a nap.
And she was like, so I was like, oh, because, you know, that was like someone's looking
out for me, too.
She will look after him.
Yeah.
Oh, not too much.
You wouldn't want to get hungry while I'm pushing a fucking seven pound baby out of
my vagina.
God forbid.
God forbid.
I need to be there after to take care of like once the kid's there.
I need to be there after to be to take care of like once the kids exactly i need to be on point so they have one of the hospitals here in la they have this like crazy like totally sugary
artificial like apple cranberry like grape juice that's so delicious with crushed ice and they
bring it to you like and i'm like i would always order one and scott was like can i have one too
and then like she come back and he forgot to order one just for like he would would like forget about me. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Tell him to give you your fucking grape juice.
Give me, and it's disgusting, but it's so good. It tastes so good. So if you have your baby at
Cedars, you have to do that.
It's a, say it again. It's a grape.
It's a grape, crayon, lemonade, sugar, sweet with the best crushed cold ice. It's amazing. How did you get your body
back? Like, cause your body is amazing. And I can't believe you've had three kids. Like it's
wild. Well, I had a thyroid issue. I will say that in the very beginning, I got up to June 19th,
2012, I was 204 pounds. So where did that go? Oh, it went, it went everywhere. I was a beast.
So what did you do? Like, what was your plan of action after you gave birth?
So after I didn't think anything was wrong with me, I think they thought as a model,
I probably was binging because I'd gotten married nine months before I was, you know,
I've always been pretty skinny since I had to starve myself since being in this business.
But I think they just thought, oh my gosh, she's, you know, she's probably eating for the first.
I don't, and my doctor, I love her.
She's my favorite doctor in the world.
But just something happened towards the end of my pregnancy.
I was like 120 something and I was 204 documented with a picture.
My ankles were unrecognized.
I was unrecognizable.
My neck was a linebacker.
So then about three months after I had him, I went into
a doctor and he literally was funny. Dr. Bambasad, he was like, oh my God, you look like a linebacker.
What is wrong with you? Yeah, I was huge. Like I was massive. And then, you know, ultrasound,
biopsy, and I still get yearly sonograms. I take thyroid medicine. It's, I go to the doctor every
three months. So it's definitely a thing.
And it was all brought on by pregnancy.
Aren't you excited for that?
I mean, I'm a little nervous.
You're fine.
But it's good.
Thyroid medicine, that helps you lose weight.
So you went on the thyroid medicine and immediately nipped it in the bud and you ate healthy.
Little hot minute to talk about juve.
Juv, juv, juv.
We are obsessed michael is butt naked every morning in front of
his juve in his office he insisted on bringing it downstairs to his man cave i don't know what's
happening in there it looks like harry potter's in there but naked listen lauren we this is a new
partner we got to do well by them and you can't be sending out a visual of me butt naked in front
of it that's not going to help in all seriousness, Michael does know what he's doing here,
guys, which is kind of a plot twist. I use my Juve Mini upstairs. I do my stoicism. It's so cute.
It's like kind of square shaped. It's white. It's matte. I turn it on. I sit there and I let
all the benefits go into my skin, my face. It's so rejuvenating. I'm telling you,
even my dogs try to go in front of it, which is really funny. Michael actually has used it on
Pixie and Boone. For those of you that are a little bit confused here, I need to play a little
catch up. Juve is red light therapy. We had the Juve founders on the show in episode 230 and talked
about all the different benefits of red light therapy. And there are a ton. Some benefits
include skin health and
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every single morning. Like Lauren said, sorry for the visual of me butt naked, but I'm a big fan of the full body
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into the show was there any other practices i think we talked about on your youtube channel
intermittent fasting a little bit well listen i mean at the same time when you gain 80 something
pounds you even though it still has to come off so intermittent intermittent fasting, blood type diet. I mean, I did everything. I mean,
it took about, what was it like 16 months to get it off 17 months. And then I got pregnant again,
but it was a bitch to get off. So you get it off and then you get pregnant again. Yes, of course.
Did you murder your husband? Murder. I'm a little scared about that because I was thinking,
and listen, I could be wrong. Get your semen away from me afterwards. She's probably pretty fertile
after. You're so fertile. It's insane. Yeah. So we gotta be, listen, I'm be wrong here. Get your semen away from me afterwards. She's probably pretty fertile after. You're so fertile.
It's insane.
Yeah.
So we got to be.
Listen, I'm not.
Why are you smiling like the Cheshire cat?
Like you like are like into it.
Like you're like, oh, yeah, let's do it again.
No, no.
I'm just saying like you got to take some precaution.
You know, we had a situation like that.
And I was like, no, we didn't have sex.
I promise.
And she was like, um, I think you need to come in my office.
I'm like, I promise we didn't.
So then you get pregnant again and you have to do the whole thing over, but you knew the
thyroid issues.
So it wasn't as bad.
It wasn't as bad.
And it was actually so much different that I felt like it was a completely almost different
pregnancy because when, you know, when you're pregnant, you're tired, you're like your feet
swell, you can't think properly.
And so like all these things like that you think are just the pregnancy.
So then you add on like a thyroid or something like you're really tired.
You're really.
And with all my babies, I was really sick, especially the third, the last one.
So I had morning sickness until like 17 weeks in the first one and then like late 27, 28
weeks.
And then with the last one, it was like 34 weeks.
I was sick.
Okay.
Do you agree with me on this public service announcement? Okay. Tell me. Okay. I think at seven months
pregnant, people should stop inviting me to dinner and parties. I think that it's actually,
I'm going to be, say this on the mic. I think it's fucking insulting and I'll tell you why.
Okay. Tell me. I'm bloated. My ankles are swollen. I'm sober. I'm tired. I'm fatigued.
I don't have the energy to have a conversation at
seven 30 at night. And I want to be in bed. And doesn't seven 30 feel like it's one o'clock in
the morning? Yes. Why can't we just have the self-awareness that everyone know after seven
months, like it's done. I understand it's your birthday, uncle John, but like, I'm going to have
to take a fucking rain check. Well, the best is when someone will like have this amazing thing, like three weeks after
you give birth, you're like, are you kidding me?
That's when you're going to schedule it.
That drives me insane.
You know, I, I don't understand when I look at my wife and my best friend and my wife
do this thing where they say yes to everything.
Oh, I do too.
Like perpetual, like they're going to be.
There's someone in this room that is like, yes, she does.
Bridesmaidsids groomsmen
bachelor like everything they're all and i'm the exact opposite so i don't understand like if i was
you i'd be like i'm pregnant i would have said it nine months ago like i can't do it i'm pregnant
like when do you ever going to use this excuse but can't we just have a universal law because
you feel guilty yeah if someone's seven months pregnant i'm gonna take a rain check there must
be something wrong with me because i don't feel guilty you don't feel guilty about anything no no he's larry david i i just i can't do it i'm tired i'm just
like once in a while i'm like what's your sign aries oh what's your sign lauren gemini gemini
yeah that's right yeah we're both there's 94 personalities in this room right now between
lauren it keeps it exciting i wake up people i said which one i get today oh girl he's the type
that won't text someone back like for two weeks and not feel guilty about it.
Well, no, but I'm also the type of person if I go in.
I would die.
I have to be all in on anything I'm doing.
If I'm in a relationship or I'm with a friend, like I'm going to dinner, like I got to be all in.
And if I'm not, then I'm like better to just not because I don't want to let people down.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to be like, God, I went there.
That guy, that sucked.
See, I'll just try to make it happen.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll be there.
Like I canceled something today and I felt really bad.
It was because I did say no, I did say no, I did say no.
I said, no, like really, is it really important?
Do I really, really, really need to do it?
Well, it would be good.
I know.
But then, oh, but then you're shooting the skinny confidential.
Don't you want hair and makeup?
And I'm like, oh, I would love to look good.
But do I really need, is it going to be like, do I really need it?
Do I really need to go?
Do I really need to sit in the chair for two hours?
I canceled today.
You know what?
Well, this is very important for you to do.
This was something you could not say no to.
You needed to be here today.
A glam squad is efficient to come to your house for an hour
if you get the same girl that you like.
Not when I die for her, but it was just like,
I needed to like get shit done. You had stuff to same like you had hair like what more do you want i
did my own but whatever amazing thank you but i'm just saying like i have to say no yeah i have no
it's important i want to know how you balance a husband your house is stunning i wish i could
describe you know i feel like you guys are already on like third or fourth base and i'm still trying
to figure out what's going on sorry i'm sorry you guys had a whole thing going on play
catch up all right so we had a day before yeah her house is insane it's a beautiful house you have
kids you have a husband you have this amazing career how do you manage all this and when I
ask that I don't mean like how do you balance it I mean like what are the tactics and habits that
you use to be efficient like is it time it time blocking? Is it Google calendar? How does your assistant help? Like what are the systems? I think I work with
my team really well. I'm a little bit OCD. I'm very structured. I have a calendar. She like,
it's like multicolored, like you're red, you're blue, I'm green. I'm very focused. You know,
like that's the one thing when I was talking about learning to say no, because every time I say no, it means yes to something else. And so, especially in my forties
with three kids and a husband who has a very demanding job, I think it's important to like,
what is the plan? I look at almost like a month out every single day, every hour of the day.
And that's where I'm really trying to hone in and be like, do I really need to do it? Or is it just
like, am I there? Do I, you know, and listen, I love helping people and I love people helping me.
But at the same time, like I find that like, I'm giving too much. Like I worked with this woman
the other day who I will totally set you up with. She's from London. She comes in twice a year to
LA. Annie DeMamel. DeMamel, DeMamel, DeMamel. Amazing. But she was like talking about, she did acupuncture.
She had this amazing facial. She like did a lot of energy work. And she was like, your output is
insane. Your multitasking, your Gemini, your, it's too much. You know what I mean? Like, but that's
the only problem. Like it's a lot. Have you read the book Essentialism by Greg McKeown? Probably
nailed it. I know. You're kind of saying what I'm already saying.
It's just like, you got to say no to certain things.
Yeah.
And I also have to be efficient.
Like, and when I say no, or when I want something done, like once your baby comes into your
life, the best advice I will give you is put that baby first.
You know, it is a real shock when you ask me like, what's the one thing that's going
to change about your life?
You're going to love something so much that it's going to amaze you.
It's just not about you anymore. And that's going to suck for like a little bit, but it's also going
to be the best thing, but that's going to be the hardest thing is that everything will come before
you guys. What are you going to do if you don't have 45 minutes for your hair in the morning?
I would really like you to put me first.
She was like going through her like 500 morning routine. You're like, she was like, I get up, I open the blinds, I meditate.
I'm like, um, that is going out the window, but definitely calendar structure.
Like, you know, and I also can do a lot that other people can't do.
I know how to do my own hair and makeup.
I know how, like, you know what I mean?
I know how to make shit happen.
Yeah.
I get home from work and Lauren's still in the morning routine.
I'm like, what the fuck's going on in here?
I just finished it five minutes ago.
She just finished it.
Like the diffusers are turning on.
I have to have a peaceful morning.
What is your morning routine when you wake up?
Like specific.
Is there like a water, a tea, a coffee?
Like give us like the nitty gritty.
Specific?
Okay, I wake up.
I look at my phone.
I look at Daily Mail.
It's so shitty, but I'm just telling you the truth.
I love Daily Mail. Okay. I look at Daily Mail. I look at Daily Mail. It's so shitty, but I'm just telling you the truth. I love Daily Mail.
Okay.
I look at Daily Mail.
I do world news.
I do US news.
I do it all.
I do the celebrity.
I go take my thyroid medicine, go downstairs, put on the coffee, make three bottles, half
almond milk, half whole milk.
I have a cup of coffee.
If I go back upstairs, I change really quickly.
I take out the dog, Ruby.
She's the new Bernadette.
She's amazing.
She's loud and obnoxious sometimes, but I love her.
And then I try to work out that I'll have one baby come down.
I'll have another baby come down.
I'll have another baby scream.
I'll grab iPads.
I will turn on the TV.
I will do whatever it takes so I can have that moment, that, you know, seven seconds of silence.
But that's ultimately how I brush my teeth.
I don't wash my face in the morning before I work out.
It's like, so I have seven seconds to do light movement, hydration, seconds.
I'll open the shades with my toe, get up and move and grab my hydro flask.
It'll already be prepped because you'll prep it for me.
I got to say, you're making me a bit nervous because I had this whole routine down, this whole plan.
It takes about an hour for me to get organized,
making me think that I'm not going to have that.
Before my husband and I were married
and he was like a single fucking bachelor,
he would like wake up at 11.
I mean, he's a night owl.
He could like sleep all day.
It was shocking when that child came out of my body.
He's just very singular focused,
you know, like I take care of the kids, the dog, the house, the thing. And he is, you know,
like we'll go on a trip. Like it's just, we're just about to go on a big trip. And like, I will
have everything done, every bag, everything packed. I will have worked like three days on,
on everything. It is my worst fucking nightmare.
He will be like, so what do you think I should pack? Oh my God. You've got to be kidding me.
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let's get back into the show. Is it going to be warm there? What's the weather?
I'll tell you why. Oh, really? We're leaving?
Listen, this is what happens and I don't want to be sexist here, but I'll tell Lauren. I'll say,
Lauren, you need, you know, it's going to be cold. I'm going to show you the weather. I'm
dropping all the hints. And she's like, I don't need that be sexist here but i'll tell lauren i'll say lauren you need you know it's gonna be cold to show you the weather i'm dropping all the hints and she's like
i don't need that and then we get there and i packed all the warm shit and then she's like i'm
cold you are deflecting off of the facts i'm out in a fucking blizzard literally planned my baby
shower down to a t every last fucking detail was signed sealed and delivered and you're looking at
me asking me what you should wear well i can see I could see me giving birth and you being like, do you think I should
wear the black hat or the brown hat?
Okay.
So I used to have a nickname.
I used to have a nickname and it was, it was honestly a deservingly nickname.
It was your nickname.
It was my nickname that he gave me.
Okay.
And her name was Nagati Nan.
Okay.
Listen, Nagati.
Okay.
But I was Nagati for a reason because the child wouldn't get to school.
The child wouldn't eat.
The child like so it's like, OK, oh, this is the best.
Like we'll be going somewhere.
I'll be two hours in here and makeup, stylist, getting ready, whatever.
Do you know what time you think I should start getting ready?
OK, to the point where last year I got into the car dressed and he was still on the fucking couch I'm like I'm
leaving he's like wait what do you mean you didn't tell me I go how could you what do you mean I
didn't tell you oh it drives me insane you aren't that bad you're not on the couch you're ready
before me I'll give you that no he's not listen that's not saying a lot just so you know my
husband is always late so what is your dynamic with your husband? Like what's like, you know, he's really like focused.
He doesn't like he's really calm.
He's really he's an awesome guy, but he's very like.
So how did you guys meet?
Like, give us the whole like story.
We met actually here in West Hollywood.
I was my girlfriend wanted to get into the CAA party at the for the I think it was for
it was for the Golden Globes.
And then at the time, Sunset tower is really hard to get into. And she had this crush on this hairdresser,
which was weird, but she couldn't get in. And I was just like miserable. I was like trying to get
out of this relationship. I was, it's like you, when you're feeling pregnant, you're like, just,
oh, just like, I hate myself. Right. And so I'm like, okay, I'm going to get you in. Then I'm
going to leave. So I was standing by the bathroom at the sunset tower of the hotel and you know my husband is very he's like a politician
he's really smooth he's really like positive but like you know he's in the holly you know he's in
Hollywood you know how is everything it's amazing how's good great big charisma really big charisma
and also it's in Hollywood it's like you never like your show could
be you know getting axed in three minutes but like if someone asks you like oh my god it was so good
you know what i mean like you always lie just to like just to keep relevant and so i said everybody
when they asked me about this thing i'm like it's really good it's really good it's like my
girlfriend said the other day she was like you know what she said that she sold a lot like her
jewelry like it sold a lot i'm like because she made 10 said that she sold a lot, like her jewelry, like it sold a lot.
I'm like, because she made 10.
Of course she sold a lot.
It was sold out.
That's my favorite thing is when people launch brands and say it's sold out.
I go, I need to know how many SKUs.
I need to know how much the inventory. It's sold out.
You can't get the limited edition.
You can't get it.
Like, did you like at 50?
Okay.
Of course it's sold out.
So anyway, I met him and he was like, how are you?
And I just, for the first time, like I didn't lie.
Like I was just like, oh, I'm all right, whatever. And he just done the breakup and he just done like
all these different movies. And he was, had his own production company with universal. And
I could hear my agents in the back of my mind, like, just talk more, you know, whatever.
And so he was like, oh, and he goes, ah, I'm not so good. And I was like, oh, everything. Okay.
But I didn't really kind of know the backstory. He had like a little bit of an issue happening in his life. And so he ended up emailing
me or he ended up calling my agents and setting a meeting. And I don't, I didn't really at the
time do meetings like outside of like, I don't know, just like it can get like weird. And so
he was like, no, they were like, take the meeting, whatever. And so like, we started talking and took
the meeting and my agents were like, oh my God, you know, Scott's super single.
And I'm like, okay, whatever.
He's like, you know, and so he asked me out for a year and then I finally went out.
I didn't, I couldn't date anybody.
I was a disaster.
I was like codependent.
It took him a year.
It took me a year.
It took you a year to go with him.
Okay.
This is the same story I hear from so many people that end up getting married. It's like the girl makes him just, Oh, yeah.
But I wasn't doing it. Like at the time, like I look back, like I wish I could have been that
cool. And I wish I could have been like, but I really, I'd never dated. Like I wouldn't have
been good for him because I had my own issues and my own things that were just like, I just,
I wasn't healthy in that way. Like I was coming off of the show. I, you know,
it was just a time of my life where I'm like, I really wanted to pick a lane. I wanted to get
married. I wanted to have kids. I just, I needed to figure out what I wanted in within that year.
Like, that's what I wanted. I wanted to date. I wanted to not just because like, oh my God,
I love you. I love you too. Like I could fix a dead broken bird like i love the ones that
are like i used to date the guys that were like oh my god fix me you know what i mean
so you say you didn't date you were just in long relationships just long relationships that i
shouldn't have been there's a bunch of bums huh what is it like dating in hollywood when you're
like when you're attracting that kind of guy i'm just kidding i don't know no no no they're they're
all good guys not all of them but most of them were good. I was always trying to fix something. And I
remember going to a therapist at that time and saying, will you like hold me accountable? Cause
like he calls me the light, like, and he's so dark and I'm his light. And she was like,
so you're narcissistic to think that you're so light that you could fix his darkness.
And she just was really tough. And I was like, but, but I love him, but I love him, but I love him. And she was like, but you love him.
And it doesn't mean he's the one and it doesn't mean it's right for you. And it doesn't mean like
what you want is the same thing he wants. And it was hard. It was really hard. I feel like sometimes
you have to go through that though, to get to the other side of the guy that's consistent with integrity. That is annoying when it comes to asking a hundred questions about
what they should wear. Why are you looking at me? Totally. What is it been like for you to have this
evolution? Because you, you know, you're a celebrity, but now it's like the times are
changing with social media. And I feel like you've done such a good job of evolving. I feel like you're a celebrity influencer is what I would call you.
Thank you.
How have you evolved?
You know, it's definitely been different just because I didn't grow up with it.
It wasn't that I started, you know, I didn't grow up with social media.
So, you know, I was already doing like modeling and then hosting and then acting.
So I was always kind of used to, I was that girl who always had something on, you know,
I hustled, like I'm a hustler. And so in that way, it was, it wasn't
as hard. It just, the only thing about social media that, you know, when I would go to a job,
I would go and then it would be over. With social media, that's just never ending and it's never
over. And so that's definitely been tricky for me, especially starting a family at the same time
and trying to, because that's never over.
They're still there in the morning.
So that in terms of that transition, that was a little bit difficult, you know, and
I still find it difficult sometimes because I'm like, okay, well, I want to be present
as opposed to just trying to get content and being present and getting content.
Like it's always kind of like a juggle, But at the same time, I've always been authentic, you know, with my brands and even who I represented,
who I was being paid to represent, not just the things that I love. Like I've always been on brand
and that's been really important to me to be authentic, to have good relationships, but also
like within social media to have that reflect. So I think that's also why I've transitioned because
everyone's just kind of transitioned with me from house of style to MTV, to cover girl,
to Las Vegas, to getting married, to writing books. It's kind of just been that, just literally
that journey of everyone kind of just like, okay, where is she going to go now? Does that make sense?
Totally. Out of every single medium. And I'm talking television,
movies, modeling, MTV, YouTube, podcasting, whatever. What's your favorite part of content
to create? Whether it's not playing yourself or playing yourself. I love speaking. I just did a
thing and they were like, oh, you should do a TED talk. I love that. I love motivating young women.
I love helping people, you know, who want to build
a brand and really giving people like, because I was so stuck in certain areas of my life,
like I was stuck in my twenties, I was stuck in my thirties for different reasons, but I was still
in this. What do you mean by stuck? I just would, you know, I just, I couldn't get out of it. I
could not for the life of me get out of it. Whether it be a business, a bad, something in
business, something with a boy, something like, you know, there's this feeling of stuck in it,
everything. Yeah. Okay. You know what I mean? And, but at the same time, like,
I think a lot of people feel like that. I think a lot of people feel like that. And,
but I've one thing that I've done well is that I've, I've never been great with change,
but change has brought me everything. Change has literally, I just keep going with it, but pivoting
how you pivot is so important. And sometimes you got to pivot fast or you're going to be behind,
or you're going to be left behind. And so I think when I was stuck, I say that I couldn't pivot,
you know, but with social media and like with acting, like I just did a movie. I just did a
pilot. I just, I'm going to do one day in a movie next month.
So I'm dipping my toe back in it.
I don't miss it as much as I thought I would.
I think because, I don't know, I love my cast and I love my crew, but sitting and waiting
in a trailer and feeling like I'm just on someone else's schedule is hard.
Well, that's what I wanted to talk to you about.
Because what I love about-
It's not like on your own terms almost.
You're almost not, you're almost your own producer of your life.
Yeah, I was on with my agent today and I was like, okay, well, I can't do this and I can't
do that and I can't do that.
But I made, well, no, I can't really do that.
And he was like, okay, so what can you do?
And I go, I just can't have someone own me.
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Well, what I love about social media and these mediums is like 100% you said nobody can own,
you know, there's no gatekeeper to these types of mediums, right?
Like in other mediums, let's say it's a movie and there's producers and directors.
It's like you're on their time on their schedule.
The showrunner owns you.
I'm producing a show now.
And the people don't really get a say until after it's done.
But with social media, like if you have the talent, the people decide what they want.
And it's free to produce.
You don't have to answer anybody.
Totally.
They could listen to this and be like, that show is absolute shit and turn it off.
Or they can say, I like it.
But there's nobody in between saying like, you can do this or not.
I'm just going to do it.
Like I'm producing now.
And oh my God, it's like a real job.
It's so much work.
I mean, it's great, but it's real.
It's like.
Producing is. Yeah. And you're, can you talk about what you're producing? I don't know. We have a show with these two girls called the home edit. They're two organizers out of Nashville.
I met them. I was researching for my second book and I needed an expert and they had like 25,000
Instagram followers and they weren't getting back to like the person who had called them. And so I
just cold called them and I'm like, listen, I'm, I'm wanting to do content kind
of new to this game.
Like, would you, if I flew out here, would you do the content?
I'll give you the content and then you can use it.
And they're like, absolutely.
So they were in my kitchen and I was listening to them.
My husband was listening to them and like their chemistry and how they just get in there
and like scream and yell and cry and discuss like
pots and pans and organ like you've never like you can't create it and so they walked out and
at the time my husband had a deal at universal i'm like well do you he was like i swear to god
i think they could be a show and so i'm like well do you have an agent or a manager? Or they're like, no. So I helped them get an agent at WME
and then I helped them find a manager.
And then they, I mean, they just were,
they were already on their way.
And then we ended up pitching it to Hello Sunshine,
Reese Witherspoons.
They bought and made an eight series
or six series digital show called Master the Mess.
And then her deal at AT&T Direct TV went,
they just went away. And so we got the show back and we all came together and we pitched it and we sold in eight
episodes to Netflix. And people love organization. I mean, they're amazing. Like I will say, like,
I love them as human beings, but like, they're so talented. But again, it's like, I think that's why I love what I do now.
Like I'm so interested in that.
Like I love health.
I love beauty.
I want to know like what's the best diet?
What's the best facial?
What's the best laser?
What's, how do I lose 12 pounds?
You know what I mean?
Like that's just the girl.
That's like me.
That's like my mom.
Like I've always been like that, you know?
How did you get to be so brand savvy?
Because that sounds like a big part of everything you're doing is that you're very savvy when
it comes to branding.
Be authentic and be honest and don't just sell out, even though it can be, yes, of course
you have to make money.
I'm not saying that, but like have a point of view.
You know, I'm a little tricky because I like so many things, which if as a brand is not
a good thing because I'm spread out, but it's also me, you know what
I mean? It's also what I love. Like I love learning like the newest, like upset, you know,
like I just love that. But to be brand savvy, you need to have a point of view. You need to be
specific and you need to know your demographic. Who do you want to buy your product? And I think
who do you want to watch you? Like, you know,
what's that, you know, where are you in the zeitgeist, you know, in that way, that's so important. I have a question about Hollywood, just because I'm interested in this is, is there
competition? Because the way to grow on podcasts and YouTube is to collaborate.
Well, podcast is one of the most collaborative spaces.
Seems like with Hollywood, it's different because it's not the same mentality.
It wasn't, but now it is because of social media.
You look at Jennifer Aniston.
You know, she just got on to Instagram and everyone came to help her.
So before it was, well, you got that part.
Like, I don't know.
You know, it was like it was not that way.
But now I definitely think it is more collaborative because it's changing how we see a movie.
It's changing how we see TV.
It's changing how we see ads and spots It's changing how we see TV. It's changing how we see ads and spots
and how everything is delivered to us
and how it's delivered to us.
Well, it's because there's not one or two
or three platforms anymore
that control all the content.
It's like this has been democratized across the board
and so everybody can do it.
And it's like a rising tide raises all shit mentality.
I bet no one knew.
If I took your job, not that I'm an actress,
but if I took your job as an actress,
you lose that job.
I lose that job. Now multiple people can do the, but if I took your job as an actress, like you lose that job. I lose that job.
Now multiple people can do the same types of jobs.
When Molly was modeling, though, it's probably different than when like with Gigi and Bella and Kendall.
They're like all tagging each other on Instagram story.
You're right.
It was not like that.
It's not.
But if there had been Instagram, you guys probably would have banded together.
We would have.
More.
Yeah.
Jillian Michaels came on our podcast.
She's great. Amazing, amazing energy. And she said, God, your generation is so different.
Back in the day, like everyone was clawing at her job. She's like the only woman trainer. And
she's like, everyone was just ripping each other down. Now, I think now just as a time,
we're more collaborative. But I think it's because of the mediums, because you can do that, right?
Like if you have multiple podcasts
it's great to go and guest and have all those conversations
to share it all. You can all grow. You can all build your channels
where before it was like if you were in the
8 o'clock primetime spot for a television show
you needed to take that spot. You had to
take that spot and you were the only one getting that spot.
Yeah, there's nobody else. Even like television
hosts too. You know?
If you're the morning show, there's only so many spots
before, you know, other people can get out out and i think that's also why social media and when it
really works like it works because it's your own thing it's your own time like you're not competing
for again the seven o'clock spot the 10 o'clock spot the 11 o'clock spot you know because they're
very few of them yeah so but people listen can listen to them any day any time i also think that like people really enjoy being able to go like, say, I want to go listen to Molly Sims or I want to go watch you speak.
People enjoy a meeting where they know you're not being told what to say or do.
And they know that that's they're getting you.
They're getting you. I think that's like what makes some of these shows work is that, you know, there's nobody pulling the strings.
I guess like this is what this is what we're doing. Well, it's so interesting. Even with me, my branding,
you know, when we shoot it like on an iPhone, just a regular iPhone, we find that it does
better than when I'm professionally shot. Yeah. That's not surprising to me. Because
it's just me on the go with the iPhone or just Ashley or, you know, someone on my team,
like it's not produced. Most of the things I like are not produced, you know, like.
People don't mind being sold to if it's like something you really believe in, right?
If you like really love, I don't know, just say essential water.
I'm not saying you do.
They don't mind necessarily if it's a job.
They just want to know you really love it.
You really love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And listen, there's some things you have to do, but ultimately if you keep doing like,
I know some and you're like, oh my gosh, you have like, that's not real.
And it's good for the short time, but it doesn't work in a long time.
What is your specific eating plan?
Or is there one?
Because you're glowing.
Like you must eat.
Yeah.
Like I want to know, like, is there a smoothie that you have every day?
I do love a smoothie.
The Fab Four from Kelly with collagen powder.
That's the one thing I do add.
I love this product called Eight Greens from Dawn Russell out of London. She does these little tabs and now she has the gummies. I do the
intermittent fasting, which you can't do. No, I can't do that. But I can the second I give birth,
right? You can. And high protein. I do high protein, not as much meat as I used to do just
because I think my body, like, I think after a while, it just like, it doesn't want to lose
weight because you've just done the same thing for so like, it just doesn't work.
That's where I found myself last year was like, why can't I lose the weight?
Why can't I get lean?
Why can't, I don't know, like everything that had done the circuit training, the Tracy
Anderson, like everything that I loved, it just stopped working.
It was interesting because I was very frustrated.
I'm like, why?
And I felt like it was back like seven years ago when I was pregnant.
Like, why isn't this working?
And so I decided to start doing HIIT, high interval intensity training. Someone was saying like, you're, I'm like, I felt doughy. You know what I mean? I felt
not strong, even though I worked out an hour, an hour and 15 minutes every day,
cardio, cardio, dancing. And I think I was eating a little bit too much meat.
You got to like shock the body once in a while. You got to change it up.
And I think that's what it was. Ultimately, that's what it was that I had
not shocked the body in so long that my body just stopped reacting. You know, people can shit on
like cleanses, juice cleanses, you know, it's not a permanent weight thing, but it does trick your
taste buds. It just, but it also gives you like, okay, I did two days of this. Let me try to do
three more. So it just gets you on your way.
Like when I say that people are like, oh, that's just a fad thing.
I'm not talking about it to be like, you're going to do this forever, but it definitely
helps you be disciplined.
And I think for so, I mean, for me, and I know for so many of my friends, it's like,
they just need to have accountability.
They need a plan or they need a partner or they need a friend. But they do work.
I go to WeCare once a year.
It's out in desert hot springs and it's a juicing fasting place and it's really hard.
But when I've gotten through it, like I did the ashram once and I was like, that's one
of the best things I've ever done because I'm like, I can do it.
Like it's, it even helps you mentally.
Like you, you do something, you get over a fear you get through something like
someone's like i'll get upset about something and i won't eat like or like a boyfriend breaks
up with me i'm like oh god i love that diet you know what i mean like oh oh my god oh my god
it's a big problem human beings seeking too much comfort i really believe i really really believe
like you know you want to work your whole life so that you can make x amount of money and then
you can be comfortable i think that's the worst thing.
I never want to be comfortable in my entire life. I just want you to know that. Never want to be
comfortable because I think that's what happens. Then you get complacent. You know, you ever seen
someone like they decide I'm going to retire really early and then their mind starts to slip.
It's the worst thing. I always say don't retire. Or like you, you bake a boatload of money and
then you just sit there and you're not doing anything and you let your body go and let your
mind go and you get unhappy. Like I think people like us as human beings are conditioned to struggle. And that's
like that's the human condition. And when we stop doing that and like a lot of this technology and
the way we live now has made it very comfortable. And that's why you see people having all these
problems. You said like you have to go out and do the hard things and switch it up and build
discipline and make your body go through struggle. And like that's like what makes us keep living.
And also everything is difficult until it's easy. Like there's no one path for someone. Like I have
used the South beach diet, the Atkins diet, I've intermittent fast and I've done the grapefruit.
I've literally, because, you know, I'm also in a business that is, you know, I am a mannequin,
you know, and especially the first, you know, 15 years of my life, it didn't matter what I said. It only mattered what I looked like.
Was my skin clear?
And how much did I weigh?
And could I meet the measurements?
And it was very difficult, very demanding.
It makes you have all sorts of body dysmorphia.
And it's hard.
And then on top of that, never knowing if you're going to work and never having a schedule
and never knowing if you're going to work and never having a schedule and never knowing if you're going to make money. So listen, 20 years later,
I am mentally strong. I don't give a fuck most time what people think now, because I'm like,
there's nothing you've told me that I haven't already heard. My calves are too big. You know,
you're too muscular. You're too blonde. Oh my God. I can't believe, you know, they told me when I
went blonde, I was going to win my career, you know, like, cause I started as like a jet black, but
you know, that has definitely made me strong, you know? Yeah. But it's like, you had to get
uncomfortable to become comfortable. It like wraps the 0.360. Yeah. When I started acting,
they were like, listen, you know, sometimes people are gonna say no and i'm like yeah what okay it's armor like i had so much armor like i think that's ultimately why i was
successful i only hear no oh you're 99 confirmed i may have been in the camp before like when i
was young i'm like oh modeling is easy then i started having to take a couple pictures and i
only had to do it for like 20 minutes i had to do all these weird... After having to go through it, I firmly believe
that models have it extremely hard.
It's not easy. It's a ton of pressure.
You got everybody picking you apart.
There's 30 people standing around dissecting
every piece of part of your body.
It's like a ballerina. It's like an athlete.
It's training. And then it goes down and people
are screenshotting and sharing.
Or you walk and you're in London and you have
absolutely no money and it's fucking 20 degrees. You can't afford a black cap.
You've walked in tennis shoes and you've stuffed your tennis shoes in a bag. You've gotten out the
one pair of heels that you, you know, have to keep. You walk in literally three miles,
look at your book, close it. Thank you. No, it's not-
And sometimes they don't even make eye contact. I think anybody that thinks it's easy should go
and like put on like five different outfits.
There's also a degrading element of it too.
I've been degraded.
I've been put down.
I've stood there probably three or four hours and no one's ever spoken to me.
Yeah, like I said, people should go, stand out, have 30 people take pictures of them
and pick them apart and then for an hour and see if it's easy.
But I think it's important for you to share that side
because you're so successful now.
I mean, you have like your house, your family,
your kids, your content.
I think that it's like you going through that
gives you more depth.
And it's like, I hate this word,
but I don't know, for lack of a better word, relatable.
Right.
You know, it's like you went through the shit
to get to the other side.
Well, people see the glamorous side of it and listen and there is there's amazing moments to
it i'm not gonna lie there's incredible parties there's incredible events there's you know things
that in places i've gone i've never would have gotten to go through modeling you know and acting
like i can't imagine you know and never say never but, it's hard for me to go back and see my 20 year old self.
And like, how did I do that?
And I truly mean that because, you know, I left a very prestigious university, Vanderbilt.
I wanted to be a lawyer.
I wanted to go into politics.
I was Southern.
I was sweet.
And like, I just liked everyone.
And I wore like Jessica McClintock, like a, you know, shawl collar.
Like I was conservative, you know?
And then I see this girl being, you know, totally thrown into New York and then going
into Europe where she learns how to dress in London.
She learns a little punk and then she learns and, you know, she learns how to dress in
Paris and Italy.
And like, I just was like a little, I like, I just sucked everything up.
You know, I was like, oh, I could wear that. I could copy that. And then I could do, I was like,
oh, how does he do that? I could do that. You know what I mean? But I look back at that time
and the rejection and how I got rejected. And I don't even know how I did it. I truly,
if I look at Scarlett at 20, it would be my worst living nightmare for her.
So if your kids came to you and they're like, I want to model.
I mean, listen, they could do, you know, one thing, maybe a year or something.
But no, you would not want it.
I would not personally want it.
Modeling or celebrity harder.
TV star, what do you call it?
Modeling or celebrity?
It's the same.
It's the same.
It's the same.
Yeah.
But now you get to wake up on a daily basis and create your own future, which is pretty
fucking cool.
Yeah. But now you get to wake up on a daily basis and create your own future, which is pretty fucking cool. Yeah. And I just, and listen, everyone, and if Scarlett is, you know,
the top model or the best, like I will totally support her like my mother did, but I want her to have a life, a full life. And if that's her decision, like, you know, I did two years of
university. I went to my prom. I graduated from high school. I had friends. But once I left,
I didn't go to a birthday. I didn't go to a wedding. I didn't go to a funeral. I worked.
I was in a different country every single day. And why you date fucking losers is because the
losers are the only ones who can travel with you. So that's why you get stuck and you get
codependent because you're by yourself in a
foreign country, you're, you're moving and you start making money and you're, you know, they're
20 year olds and you're mixing with the 40 year olds and the 50 year olds, because guess what?
Those are the people who have money, you know? So it's been what it is for me. And I've taken
everything, the great parts and made it work for me, but I've also taken the bad parts
and made it work for me because, you know, I think being told some of the things that
I have been told, especially about my weight and my appearance and your nose is crooked and like
your hands are bad and like all of these things of like, how could you, you know what I mean?
It's just, it's insane. It's a lot of pride to swallow too. Cause you probably like, when you hear that thing, you're like, I'm going to knock your
teeth out.
You know what you got?
You can't because you're doing a job.
But you learn probably how to manage your ego too.
I mean, you learn a lot of different tools through it.
I think that you should go to your husband tonight and tell him all this and then say,
I'm going to need a lot of affirmations for the rest of my life.
For the rest of my life.
Because you need to make up
you know can i tell you one thing i love about him he is that guy like he will back me like that's
the most important he will back me you know he he will back me and i know some of my friends
partners or people that i know like they wouldn't necessarily say that and that that means so much
to me you know what i mean i feel like kind of the same way you are. You like, you have a real partner. Like you can,
you know, I never understood the couples that they go and like, listen, you can put you behind
closed doors. If you're getting an argument with each other, that's like something to sort out
between you and your partner. But like when the other person is throwing his partner under the
bus and terrible, it's the, it's not going to work. It's going to, it's going to blow. It also
makes the person who's saying it look really bad. Yes if lauren fucks up and we're in a group and
like i want to talk to her privately and we can't like can't know if i fuck up but it's i'm never
gonna ever throw my wife under the bus never like it's just not gonna happen i think it's the
difference between building towards a common goal and being a teammate than just and i i don't i
mean like to say this like this but like just just husband and wife, there's more. It's another level of commitment that you have to tap into.
I think it's like, are you building towards the same common goal or are you going separate
directions, which you see happen so much?
And I think in dating, I think, you know, that's the one thing that I can say about
the year of like, you know, I was never the girl, even though I tried to be the girl who,
you know, would try to like, oh, if he drank a certain beer, I'm like, oh my God, I love that. Or like, you know,
I'd love to live in a trailer. Sure. That'd be amazing. You know what I mean? Like, no,
but so you try to be that, you know, cool girl. But ultimately I, you know, I know girls who would
just do something like, oh, it doesn't matter if he doesn't call me. Oh, it doesn't matter. You
know what I mean? Like, no, fucking call me. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, and it was, and that's why the guys were so, and I wasn't hard per se, but I was straightforward.
It wasn't like, I wasn't going to pretend like I didn't want you to, like, I, I couldn't play it
cool that well. I think one of your next books is like how to, how to date like Molly Sims,
like a dating guy or something. What is your top this is gonna be hard beauty hack oh my god my top taking a right turn
castor oil okay is really good elaborate and i hate it and it's disgusting like ever you know
i learned this at we care like you can do a shot of castor oil. Oh, that's bad. So disgusting.
And it makes things go.
You just can't imagine.
It just makes it go through.
Oh, I thought you were going to say castor oil for eyebrows or hair growth.
I'm not done, girl.
OK, you're not done, girl.
So eyebrows, it actually helps with your eyebrows.
Eyelashes.
I hate the smell of it,
but my girlfriend swears that it makes her eyelashes grow.
I love Lash Boost by, I think it's Rodan and Fields.
You know, the people who do like the proactive,
that fucking Lash Boost.
And then they're not gonna pay me or whatever,
but they should.
But it's so good.
I took all my extensions out.
Cause I'm like, everyone hated them.
And I hated them.
And like we all wonky at one point.
And I started using that.
That's a really good product.
But castor oil also rubbing it on the belly.
Like with, you can do like aluminum foil and put a pack of castor oil pack on it.
That's great for detoxification.
Great.
Castor oil is big.
Wait.
So how often are you doing a shot
of castor oil is this an everyday thing or no once in a while that would be extreme this is like just
when you really like you really need it like when i go to we care and you're doing the colonics and
it's like yeah that's like i'm gonna roof you with that one day you're gonna roof it we're gonna put
in your smoothie um that's a good one i didn't know that you could drink it that's you're gonna roof it we're gonna put it in your smoothie that's a good one i didn't know that you could drink it that's you're not gonna want to be around yeah it's just it's absolutely disgusting
but it makes things like when i was southern like we put mayonnaise in our hair to like make it shine
like i'm very southern in that way when did you move out of the south like when what year was it
how old were you uh i graduated from high school in 1991. I went to Vanderbilt in 92, 93.
I was supposed to graduate in 95.
And then straight to New York.
And I bailed after that.
I went to one summer in DC, which was weird and fun.
And then you were just all over nonstop.
And then I went to New York for about six, seven weeks.
And then I lived in Europe almost six years, pretty much.
Wow.
I've tried to pretend like I was French.
That sounds romantic. It was good. Yeah, it does to pretend like I was French. That sounds romantic.
It was good. Yeah, it does sound. It was good. It was fun. You know, you really get to look,
you really get to learn people's culture when you live there. Like I had a French boyfriend.
I loved him. Had an English boyfriend. He was a fireman. Loved him too. Like it was good.
If you were to tell someone that is listening and that wants to get healthy, health, wellness,
beauty, whatever, what are three tips
that you would give them on where to start if they, if this is all so overwhelming?
Get an accountability coach. Okay. Like what's the girl, the housewife, she's a housewife.
Yeah. Teddy Mellencamp has a great accountability program. I know this because a couple of my
friends have done it and it's great and it's really difficult, but you are being held accountable. Accountability,
having someone help you, a food plan, whatever that accountability is, you know, exercise.
You're not going to want to hear this, but 80-20, even though I love working out for different
reasons, serotonin, just like my energy, like my head, like, but 80% nutrition, it's 20% working out. So again, it is discipline.
It comes down to discipline.
So if you want to drink, then you ain't having the dessert.
Know when you go to a restaurant, what you're going to have before you get there.
It's like a weird, it's a weird trick.
And every freaking thing you order is on the side.
What's your drink of choice?
A Paloma.
A Paloma.
What's that?
It's like a spicy margarita, right?
Oh, no, grapefruit margarita. No, I'm sorry. Okay. So grapefruit juice, soda, just like club soda, Perrier,
Casamigos, tequila, Banco white, and a lot of lime. It's so good. Kelly was like, you're drinking
way too much wine. And she was like, you have to cut that because a lid, and I probably lost
four pounds from just
like cutting out wine. You just do like a splash of grapefruit and then soda and tequila. I'm
going to have to steal that one. The second I give birth, I want a Paloma sitting next to me.
As I've gotten older though, I just go straight to the liquor. I can't do the fruit anymore.
We need like a little something, something with it.
But I would say with weight, I think, you know, what do you want? Like, what do you fucking want?
Like, I always say like, it's not easy. what do you want? Like, what do you fucking want? Like,
I always say like, it's not easy. What do you want? Do you want to like, it's what is your end goal? What do you want to be? Who do you want to be? You want to be skinny? You can be skinny.
It's calories in calories out. You know what I mean? Like, I don't mean to sound harsh in that
way, but like, do you don't think it's hard for me with three kids? I don't care how much money
I have. I still get up. I still work out at 545. I still do two
pickups. I still manage to like, you know, and it's, and it's hard and I'm tired and I'm grumpy,
but like, I want to look good. When I put these, I had these jeans my whole life because I was so
fucked up from modeling that I could never weigh myself. I can still never weigh myself. Like when
I was pregnant, I never weighed myself. I always lie except for the very end, which was shocking. But so I never, literally I never weighed myself. So I had these
one pair of jeans. So that's a really big tip. I had these one great pair of jeans that I would
always try to get into. Like literally like at one point, like I couldn't, when I was pregnant,
like at the end, I couldn't get them past my knees. That was how I weighed myself through
the pair of jeans. So I would say that, like, have that one thing you used to wear in your closet.
Pull it out.
Try it on.
Try to get over one part.
Even if it's like you're a size, you know, 10 now and you were a size, you know, four
before your size 14.
You were the size.
You know what I'm saying?
Like an 18.
That's the kind of ability.
You know what this reminds you of?
Have you ever heard of Jocko Willink?
You ever heard of him? Like you're an 18. That's the kind of ability. You know what this reminds you of? Have you ever heard of Jocko Willink? You ever heard of him?
No.
He's got an amazing podcast called The Jocko Show.
And he's an ex-Navy SEAL.
He wrote this book called Discipline Equals Freedom.
And it's all about like all the things in life.
You know, like if you want to be healthy, everyone wants these quick, easy, comfortable
solutions.
But it really is like getting up early, going to the gym, eating right, like doing the things.
And it's always the hardest things, but they bring the most results.
But I can tell you something like being heavy makes me
in a bad mood. You know what I mean? Not having hair color makes it's, it sounds superficial,
but it's taking care of that self care, taking that extra moment, like to take care of myself.
Like, I don't want to have like dark roots. I don't want to have great, like, I don't want that.
So I get a little bit nervous as a society when people listen it's all about i like body positivity i think that's really important it's okay to want to be
healthy and to look good and to want to like you know build your body and take care i know everybody
is like oh just be you great if you feel great about just being you you you be you i'll be
wonderful over here and you'll be wonderful but i'm gonna take care of myself yeah to each its
own to each its own you only get one of, you know, you get one body to carry you through the whole life.
And again, but hold on again. It's, it's, what do you want? Like some people who are, however,
however heavy or however, they feel amazing about themselves. And that is what it's about.
It's not about a number. It's not about weight. It's not about height. It's not about
red, white. It's how do
you feel good? And that's how I start everything I talk about. Like, how would you want? You know
what I mean? Like, cause a lot of times you're lying to yourself. Like, you know, Oh, I don't
care about that. Or, Oh yeah, I don't, I don't worry about that. Like, yes you do. I just don't
want people to take the cop out. What's like so-and-so told me that it's okay to feel good
if I'm not taking care of myself. So I'm going to continue to eat McDonald's every day and not
take care of my body. Sure, that's a choice. But I think like we get into a dangerous place where
people are like, oh, someone convinced me and told me this. Okay. It's like, no, you really got to
take care of yourself. Like, I mean, like, I just think though, a lot of people that I hope that
consume the skinny confidential, like they're striving to be the best version of themselves.
And whatever that looks like to you, it can be like you said, anything, just do you when
it comes, you don't need to do what everyone else is doing.
My mom always used to tell me, if you look good, you feel good.
And if you feel good, you look good.
If you feel good about yourself, it doesn't matter how big you are, how tall, it doesn't
matter.
It's how you feel about yourself.
It's like when I was thinking about trying to get met or, you know,
I was trying to think about getting married and I was really in this bad relationship and I kept
saying, well, it's meant to be, you know, what's meant to be is meant to be. And finally my uncle
was like, yeah, that's just something you tell yourself to make you feel better. Yes. That's
what I'm saying. You have to take steps in order to have the what's meant to be you can't just be
yeah intermittent fasting before we go it's hard i have a question tell me do you do 16 8. i do 16 8.
so when do you stop eating i stop eating around eight o'clock you stop eating at eight or seven
see that's where i think i up before because I stopped eating at 10. But then I was like still drinking wine until 10.30.
So I was like dirty fasting.
That was dirty.
That's kind of dirty.
No, I got to start at 8.
That's a good tip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't really eat or drink after fasting.
That would be a little bit difficult.
I was having wine like until 10.30.
And I don't think and we had Mark Sason on here and he says that the almond milk actually That would be a little bit difficult. I was having wine like till 1030.
And I don't think, and then we had Mark Sason on here and he says that the almond milk actually broke the fast as well, right?
Oh, then I was doing unsweetened almond milk.
No, you can't have almond milk.
You can have black coffee.
It breaks it, right?
Yeah.
It was unsweetened.
You can't do it, right?
You can't.
It has to be like water, black coffee.
So all you do is water and black coffee until, what's the math?
It's 12 or 1.
12 or 1.
And then what do you like to break your fast with?
I had to ask this because I didn't get specific on the question.
A smoothie, a salad.
Like I love, there's a place in LA called Mendocino Farms
and they have the superfood salad and I love it.
It's so good.
So good.
She's like craving it.
Because I like order it.
I love salmon.
I love fish.
I've tried to, again, not eat as much.
Again, it's what your husband said. It's
kind of like I needed to shock that body. And for me, I've never done high intensity. I was like,
lift weights. Are you out of your mind? Like I was the girl in SoulCycle who'd be like, you know,
in the back, they're like, oh, lift. I'm like, I'm sorry. I can't lift that weight. It might put
a little bit of muscle on me. I mean, I literally lift like 10, 20, 30 pounds. I do squats now
and my body is better than it was three years ago. You know what else too, it probably challenges
the mind. Cause it's a new thing that you have to learn where it's like, can you get, like,
say you do yoga for 20 years and all of a sudden it's like the movements are just like normal,
the robotic, but then you have to go do like weights all of a sudden. Like I've never done
this before. It engages the mind as well. Like I'm doing this thing called dance body and it's,
it's dancing, but it's specific dancing. It's using your whole body. So it's not just like moving in one place and like, you know,
like that's not really cardio. It's probably mentally stimulating too. But it was like,
it's like mentally she makes you wear arm weights and leg weights and it's hard and you're sweating
and it's not for very long. And you're like, it's a good workout. Even like the hit. Like I also
back to giving one piece of advice. You don't have to have an hour to work out. You do not need an hour. You need 25 to 35,
40 minutes. You're, you know, you're in there, not on your phone, not checking your email.
You're focused, but that's, that's all you need. Book podcast resource that you can leave our
audience with. That's brought you a lot of value. Watch and listen to the skinny confidential.
Your YouTube channel, my YouTube channel. What podcast do I, do I love? Could be,
it could be a book. It could be a Netflix show. It could be just any resource. You'd love any
resource, an audible book, anything that you consume. Well, I love anything that like has
to do with murder, like death or like.
Tell us the murder one.
Oh, my God.
Hold on one second.
I got to bring a whole list out.
Oh, gosh.
Are you kidding me?
And I love reading like books that my husband thinks I'm going to murder him.
That's OK.
I thought you're picking up a lot of tactics and tips and tricks.
I watch Dateline and always fall asleep.
But he'll have to watch the same one over and over until he until finally I make it
through. But like there's this one called The Bitter and over until he, until finally I make it three.
But like, there's this one called The Bitter Pill and how he did that.
I'm telling you.
Ooh, The Bitter Pill.
Is that the one where the person slowly poisoned him over years?
Yeah.
That's amazing.
That's a good one.
So Bardstown, Dr. Death.
These are podcasts.
I love Wondery.
To Live and Die in LA.
Someone Knows Something.
Ooh.
Did you watch, did you listen to Atlanta Monster?
No.
It's a murder one.
You'll like that one.
Maybe not.
So there's this one random one
called Bear Brook.
It's so weird,
but it's so good.
Oh, The Dropout,
The Elizabeth.
So you're into like crime.
Yeah.
And I love cereal.
I love Super Soul.
Wondery puts out
some great true crime podcasts.
I love Wondery for that. And This American Life, what is that one? They got the CEO. Wondery puts out some great true crime podcasts. I love Wondery for that.
And This American Life, what is that one?
The CEO of Wondery, Hernan, sometimes
we speak, you know, just talking about podcasts, and I always tell
him, like, if there's one person that's really done
a good job in this space, I admire
what he's done in the true crime space. It's pretty phenomenal.
It's phenomenal. Yeah, he's a stone.
And then Beauty, like,
Nurse Jamie is a great one to follow.
Dr. Bakshanda, Dr. B, she's great.
Barbara Strom, like these are great.
You know, Glow Recipes are really good.
It's a Korean.
They're really good.
Oh my gosh, there's so many.
Like, I don't know.
You just dropped so many good tips and tricks.
I mean, I'm inspired.
You set the bar here because a lot of these guests come on.
I'm like, I just need one resource.
They can't get me a resource.
So you just gave like 20.
You just did the job.
Oh my gosh.
Throughout this interview, there's so many gems.
Oh my God.
I use face things.
I'm always, that's the one thing.
Like, I'm very honest.
Like, you know, some people were like, oh, I don't diet.
Oh, I don't do anything to my face.
One time I asked a guest what their work routine is.
You know, meetings and coffee.
And I was like, what the fuck does that mean?
Of course, like everybody else in the world.
Like, yeah, I guess I'm going to hear this now.
See, now that guest is going to hear this and be pissed at me.
Molly, thank you for coming on.
You guys are awesome.
Anytime you want.
Anytime.
You're going to have the best baby girls.
We can't wait.
And next time she comes on, hopefully there'll be like really good air conditioning in here.
I'm working on it.
Where can everyone find you?
Pimp yourself out. Pimp myself out. Okay. At Molly B Sims, S in here. I'm working on it. Where can everyone find you? Pimp yourself out.
Pimp myself out.
Okay.
At Molly B Sims, S-I-M-S on Instagram.
We have a great YouTube channel, Molly Sims.
We have two great books called The Everyday Supermodel and Everyday Chic.
That's pimped enough.
I think we're good.
We're pimped out.
Thank you for coming on.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you for coming on.
Thank you.
Wait, before you go, you should know that I did a collaboration with Molly.
I am on her YouTube channel.
We talk everything, everything and anything, okay?
Pregnancy, beauty, health, the works, okay?
So make sure you check out her channel where you can see her and I get into it.
Now for the giveaway.
Molly recently launched a collaboration with Shiley Rose Jewelry, and she's going to gift
one of you a 14-carat
gold heart necklace with diamonds. The value is $695. To win this necklace, all you guys have to
do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram, at The Skinny Confidential,
and then follow at MollyBSims. Super easy, super quick. One of us will drop into your DMs and let you know who won.
Again, that's a solid 14 karat gold necklace with diamonds.
And it's by at Shiley Rose Jewelry.
Guys, it's beautiful.
All right, time to wrap it up.
And we will see you next Tuesday.
Thanks for listening, guys.
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