The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Chervin Jafarieh Pt. 2 On How To Invest In Yourself & Essential Health Requirements

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

#449: On this episode we are joined by Chervin Jafarieh for a second time. Chervin is one of the most respected and influential health experts in the world. At an early age, he was mentored by some of the world's top health authorities. Chervin returns to the show to discuss how to invest in yourself and improve your lifestyle. We also discuss essential supplements and health requirements.  To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episdoe is brought to you by Hapbee Give Hapbee a try and you’re going to love it as much as we do! Order today and you’ll save 25% get 90-days free access toALL their Signals! Take advantage of their 365-day guarantee today. Go www.Hapbee.com/skinny  To Get 2 Months Free of Obé Fitness click HERE or use code SKINNY2 at www.obefitness.com when signing up. Produced by Dear Media 

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skinny40 at checkout. So use skinny40 at checkout at botanictonics.com. Enjoy. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Okay, well, so first and foremost, we got to stop putting the toxins in. Okay, so before we start talking about like aggressive, you know, detoxification and opening up all that kind of stuff, we got to say, what is, what are we doing

in our life? That's causing us to be exposed to toxins. Is it, you know, are we using products that are filled with weird stuff in it that you cannot pronounce? Let's just start there. Back again, back again with Chervene. That first episode we did, if you guys haven't heard it, with Chervene was a record-breaking podcast. We usually don't have people back on the show this quick, but he registered with so many of you, his message. So many of you liked it so much that we said,

okay, let's do it again. Let's get him back in the studio. Let's really get granular. And this one doesn't fail to deliver. He is the founder of Symbiotica, which is a major vitamin company. And these vitamins are legit. Okay. We talk about it in this episode. What I like about him is he's a real practitioner, but he also is someone who lives, eats, breathes, and sleeps wellness. I even had one of my friends who's a body worker. He's so

into wellness. Tell me that Chervene is like his idol because he knows so much. If you go to his Instagram, he talks about everything from radiation to EMF exposure, to vitamins, to supplements, to how to mix vitamins. He even tells you like, it's super interesting. If you're taking vitamin D3, you should make sure you're taking a vitamin K2. He gets super granular. And I think the audience appreciates that. In this episode, we go all over the place so much so that this is one of those episodes that I took notes. I love to take notes with a lot of our guests and then I'll look at it all and dissect and really see what works for me. And from his first podcast, I've implemented a lot of his tips and noticed a big difference. Speaking of his first podcast, if you haven't checked that one out, like I said, it was a

record-breaking podcast. A ton of listens, a ton of people really found the message to be inspiring, educational, all the things. That was episode number 428 and we did it in the very beginning of this year on January 20th. It was titled Wellness Practices That Will Enhance Your Life, Essential Supplements, Nutritional Gaps. So check that one out for sure. But also listen to this one because this one is incredible. With that, Chervene, our friend, welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. Chervene, back on the show. I think we set records on the last one. That one took off.

That one took off, man. You know, let's just kick this off in a real reasonable way. Okay, let's see. Let's take Taylor. Taylor, reasonable in LA. Let's take Taylor and use Taylor as our guinea pig today.

Taylor, our producer is here. Taylor has never in his life had a vitamin ever. So which vitamin would you like start with for Taylor? Never. Taylor, do you take any supplements at all? Why is your mic not on? Don't talk to me on the show until your mic's on. Yeah. I would say if he's never actually taking, I mean, he's obviously gotten vitamins and nutrients from his food, right?

Maybe not. Does Panda Express count? No, Panda Express does not count. It's actually anti-nutrient. I would say he should take our new green alchemy, best ever complex protein formula that hasn't actually released yet. I think this is going to air on the 31st,

if I'm not mistaken. This actually launches on the 31st and it's the most complete green formula ever created in the history of this known universe. You're saying you got to win the Nobel Prize. This was four years in the making. And this is a formula that I've been creating for multiple world number one athletes. Novak Djokovic is one of them. And I was never able to actually bring it to Symbiotica because it's impossible to scale based on a cost basis. There's no business to be made there when you go this vertical or this complex with the sourcing that we did on this. There's no profit. So it's not something we can add to the business. So I would just make it for my friends, family, and some of these athletes. But because Symbiotica has grown so fast, we're now in a position where we can take

a product like this and basically break even on. And if you really understand what goes on in terms of developing and creating something like this, it shows you that there are people out there that are doing things the right way. And I'm just so hyped to be able to bring this nutrition to the world. There's a lot of stuff on the market. I've been in my private telegram rooms. I've been starting to talk about what are people using out there. And a lot of the stuff out there is not what it seems to be. Your Instagram, I stalked the whole thing. It seems to hit some points with people.

Yeah. People either love it or it's controversial, salacious, whatever you want to call it. What are some things that you've talked about on your Instagram that hit a nerve? I think almost everything. I'm a mirror for a lot of people. I'm a mirror for men. I'm a mirror for women in many ways. And I don't hold back. I am actually holding back on like 99% of the topics I'd like to talk about just because I don't need to do what other people are doing out there in terms of they're fighting the good fight. And we don't need to get into those details. But my path is to really help people with their lifestyle choices and getting their own sovereignty. And I think

we talked about that on the first interview, is it's all about freedom. And so I don't know, I could be rattling people because I take strong positions on certain things and it calls out kind of like their perspective or their ego. And they're like, holy shit, you know, F this guy. Or I love this guy. Give me an example of something granular. You know, I always say how you do anything is how you do everything.

So, you know, lifestyle choices, the way that maybe they raise their children, maybe the way that they are, you know, they approach their relationships with themselves and with their children, maybe the way that they approach their relationships with themselves and with their partners, maybe their perspective on the food that they're eating and the way they go about their daily lifestyles, maybe what they expose themselves to in terms of media and news and controversy and all that gossip bullshit, which I think is a disaster to the soul. I talk about a lot of ancient perspectives and bring it into a 21st century way of doing things. And it's, I always say,

this is what's working for me. It's working for, you know, the people, my loved ones, my tribe, you know, just take it as a perspective, you know, and, but some people get offended. I, I actually did a post, I didn't even write it, but I think it was Worldwide Woman's Day the other day or whatever, which I think should be every day. A little smoothie over there. Yeah. And I posted this post on just the architecture of the woman and how it's beauty personified to be rav be like ravishly like powerful yet at the same time submissive yet at the same time balanced that all these different

like being able to like play it into all these realms. And 95% of women had a really incredible response, but there was that 5% that said, this is the definition of misogyny and stuff like that. And I don't, I, I, I look at it cause I want to hear other people's perspectives. And I, and we, we don't know what people have gone through. You know, we can only speak from our own lens. And I try to meet people where they're at, you know, two, three years ago, four years ago, five years ago, I might've been a little bit more fierce in certain ways. I actually was. Now I'm like more pragmatic and I just, I want to hear what, you know, people's perspectives are. What are some things that you've done to become more pragmatic? Do you practice a certain philosophy? Like what are the things? Maturation. I mean, I just, you go

through it when you roll through the punches and you roll through like different dynamics of life, you start to realize that, you know, everyone's inherently good and everyone inherently wants to live the best life ever. And everyone wants to have fun and have beautiful experiences and be heard and seen. And, you know, instead of like having to put someone and attack somebody, I feel at this point in my life where it's more of just, you know, Hey, you have a, you have someone over here that has a perspective. This is what, this is what we're offering. See if it fits, you know? And, and that's the, that's the whole thing is when you try to indoctrinate information, which is what our school systems are doing, which is what the

government's doing in certain ways, which is what our media is doing, the body's natural defense system is going to want to resist. Like in sales, they teach you like sales 101. You got to take it away first. If you're forcing the car down someone's throat, they're not going to want to buy it, even though they came there to buy it. But if you're like, this might not be for you, you know, this, you know, it's like that energy and that's human psychology 101. And I really want to, I've been experiencing that firsthand through, you know, years of trials and tribulations of trying to educate people because I was that kid. I don't know if we talked about it. That was around his, you know, 12 year old friend's mother in the kitchen saying, if

you keep feeding him this pasteurized, hormone-filled milk, you're not going to be able to communicate with him properly. I can see it happening. I was 12, having those conversations with my friend's parents in the kitchen. And I'm like, his mood's all over the place. He can't control his temper. His hormones are everywhere. But you keep feeding him refined sugars and pasteurized milk and all these compounds. He never had a chance.

I want to get granular with you there for a minute because obviously, so people should definitely go back and listen to the first episode we did with you. We just did it recently. It crushed it. People love that episode. I get shared that to me every day.

Every time I go on social media, it's nonstop. It's a phenomenal episode. And you were great on that show. And I just think people love the message that you came on and shared the first time. But this one, I want to get a little bit more granular because I've been following your stuff. And obviously now a huge consumer of all of your products. I think I'm your biggest customer at this point. Not kidding. But when you look... Really, just side note, he's a collector by nature. And now his thing is to collect vitamins. So every single week, we have a new package from Symbiotica. Listen, I had to bring a separate fucking suitcase to carry all the shit.

He's putting it in his coffee. He's putting it under his tongue. He's squirting it in my mouth when I'm asleep. He's roofing me with it. She has food aversion, so I wait for her to fall asleep in the mouth. Because his baby is in my stomach.

He's like syringing it to me when I'm asleep. I mean, he is being like so annoying with this. But that's epic too. It's epic. And he's turning the labels out. He has a whole like little cupboard. I was like, oh shit, you forgot your magnesium. Okay, go ahead with what you were saying. But I want to get granular because I

follow your stuff now and I think you talk about some health issues that I think are just not as mainstream as people would like or as I would like them to be. And when you think, like I saw one post you did on parasites, right? And I saw one post you did on zinc.

And I wonder if you, what are some topics, some granular health issues that people go through that it wouldn't be the first thing they'd look to, but you think is having a massive effect on the human condition. Recently, we had the founders of Obey Fitness on the podcast, Mark and Ashley, and they were so interesting. And what I think is so cool is they're building a workout routine online, but with community. So if you feel like you don't want to go to the gym because you don't want to run into people, or you don't want to dress up, you don't want to put your leggings on, maybe you want to work out in your fucking pajamas. You can do that with Obey straight from your home. They have strength

training Pilates, sculpt yoga, and HIIT, and no equipment is necessary, which is super efficient. I, the other day, put on a Pilates class and I listened to a podcast at the same time while I did it. It was very much habit stacking. It worked. You can work out from home or on the go. So if you're traveling, it just can be seamlessly integrated into your schedule. Super easy. If you want more structure, okay, they also have like a 30-day progressive program. There's like this fan favorite called Body Comp that people who are more structured really, really enjoy. And they also have a lot of pre and post-natal classes. So your exercises are safe, but fun, and they're burning, okay? This Pilates class was fun.

It got the job done. I was sore the next day. My ass was sore. They have daily live classes and 8,000 on-demand options. I am telling you, I think that this community is going to love the Obey Fitness community. Wherever you are in your fitness journey, you can jump right in with two free months of Obey. That is generous. You get two free months of workingbey. That is generous. You get two free months

of working out. Everyone should do this. Just use code SKINNY2 at Obey Fitness. That's O-B-E-F-I-T-N-E-S-S.com to get started. Yeah, we brushed upon it briefly in Austin, but before we can get into nutrition, we got to talk about detoxification. It's simple as that, especially in today's 21st century industrialized world. I mean, look behind us. This is a perfect indicator of where we're at today in terms of an artificial world.

We're in the belly of the beast of Los Angeles right now. I mean, I just had to drive through so much chaos to get here. I'm like, I'm stressing your voice when we talked. I know I'm just trying to like ground in. So if you're listening right now, I literally just got in here like three minutes ago. Do I got to bring a patch of grass up that you could stand in? A lot can happen in three minutes. Ask our producer. I totally agree with that. I'm, I'm staring at downtown LA, which is probably about 25 about 20 miles away, maybe less, 12 miles away as the crow flies. And that's just a depiction of where we're at

in terms of this artificial world with chemicals and toxins and water toxicity and non-native electromagnetic frequencies we're getting bombarded with so many different things. So before we even want to start thinking about nutrition, we got to think about detoxification. And at the same time, there are certain ways of eating foods, like for example, our new green alchemy, our green complex protein,

that helps chelate toxins out of the body. Because when you can get the right nutrition in the body, something's got to give. And that's getting the burden of the toxic soup that's inside of us. There's a reason why people are feeling chronic fatigue. There's a reason why people are emotionally distressed. And my whole thing is that if you start at an early age, escaping and getting out of that reality by taking a drug, by eating foods that are not good for you, that give you short-term pleasure.

You're just railroading yourself into a life of disease, sickness. And fundamentally, you're not going to be able to reach your highest point. And as a human in this life, there's a point where we get to an apex. And my whole thing is like, I need everyone hitting that apex. You know, we need everyone being in their, in their embodiment and in what we call their Dharma, which is like their chosen like soul path. Can you imagine if everybody in this world

was living their soul's purpose? Like how many people in this world right now are actually embodying that in their life that are actually there. Okay. But here's where people I think get overwhelmed. Sure. What are the tangible steps that they can take to detox? Like what is, give us, you're talking to a kindergartner here. Yeah. And I'm not saying the audience is a kindergartner. Use me. Okay. Well, so, so first and foremost, we got to stop putting the toxins in. Okay. So before we start talking about like aggressive, you know, detoxification and opening up all that kind

of stuff, we got to say, what is, what are we doing in our life that's causing us to be exposed to toxins? Is it, you know, are we using products that are filled with weird stuff in it that you cannot pronounce? Let's just start there. Let me give an example. I was at a function the other day, actually yesterday, and I have not been at a function like this in a long time where I was bombarded by colognes, perfumes, antiperspirants. I mean, I can hear it in my voice right now. I'm still kind of like getting over it because I'm so sensitive to all of the stuff. I'm not exposed to that in my everyday life. And that right there is a indicator of where we are

as a society when you have, I would say in the last 10 years, trillions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars have gone into the industry of masking something, masking a smell. Why is your body smelling putrid? What is BO? BO is because you have runaway candida in your body. And so we're going to just add chemicals on top of that and create more putridity. Colognes, perfumes, all these crazy designer stuff, that's all insanity that people are putting that on their skin. So when you talk about detoxification, what's the easiest thing to do? Number one, stop adding poisons to an already burdened body. Number one. Don't mean to brag, just side note, Michael was taking a bath the other day with my daughter and he reaches for the hotel bubble bath and in slow-mo, I smacked it out of his hand.

It wasn't slow-mo, it was very fast. And I gave him the all-natural, like super clean shower gel. And that's what I mean. You have gotten better. So listen, I wear perfume sometimes, so I'm not saying I'm poor. These things matter. No, and I was, you know, I think all of us at this table,

actually in this entire office, are byproducts of a generation that came out of the generation of mass marketing, mass production. Windex. Like a production, like a lot of our parents, parents didn't have this kind of mass marketing, mass production. And so there's a lot of bad learned behaviors that have come and it's, I'm not putting blame. I'm just saying it is what it is, right? Like you saw like mass production of all these things. What's the most cost-effective cheapest way that we can highly produce? Even like cleaning the house too. Like. Don't you think thieves is the move

for the house? Is that what you would do? I mean, what you're using in the box we call the home is one of the most important things. Yeah. I mean, all of those things build up and they create residue and they react to organic raw materials in the house and that creates other forms of toxicities and carcinogens, and this is your home that you're living in. Yeah, I mean, our living environment is one of the most important aspects to our reality. It's your sanctuary. Your body is designed to go into that home and rest and go into a parasympathetic state so it can rebuild and regenerate. But if you have disturbances in the field of the home, you'll never be able to detoxify. You'll never be able to regenerate.

Where do we detoxify? We detoxify when we go to sleep. So sleep is when the body goes through a detoxification process. And Ayurveda explains that into detail in terms of the system. From 10 p.m. to midnight, it's this. From midnight to this, it's this organ. Then it goes into the lungs. And then it builds up film.

And then it pushes it out to all. That's why we have boogers in our eyes and we have film over our tongue and all that kind of stuff. That's because the body's been cleansing all day and night, all day and night, all night. But if we are stuck in exposure 24 hours a day, seven days a week from whatever we're doing, we're never given the body and the ability to cleanse. So little tips that the audience can do when it comes to their cleaning supplies. I also noticed you're going to think I'm crazy, but we're at a hotel right now because we're in LA. And I noticed that the sheets, they're using some really gnarly bleach or chemical and we're just breathing it in. I was thinking about that last night. I'm like, how do we combat that? Like, what are little, like, do you have brands that you use?

What can the audience do? Well, we're kind of putting it back into our own responsibilities. So I wasn't even going to bring this up. But right now we're in the design stage of developing all home, you know, everything you need. I call them the raw equipment for the home to keep things stabilized and keep things in equilibrium. That's going to blow the fuck up. It'll blow the fuck up. And it's making things so simple yet effective. And it's removing

all of the harmful agents that spike insulin levels, that spike cortisol, that causes multi-inflammatory responses in the body. I can't wait for this. Simplicity is what the design is. So yes, we're right there for that. And that's happening actually probably by the end of Q2. So that's coming pretty quick. Can I be your first customer? Of course you can. Really quick, is there laundry detergent? Yes.

Okay. So let's take a step back. Let's say I come to you guys for Chervena. I'm just, you know, I'm a regular guy. I've been living in Los Angeles. I've determined to get my health in order and I don't know where to begin. I have a basic diet.

Once in a while, I'm out drinking. Once in a while, I'm doing fast food. But the majority of the time, I'm trying to eat clean. I'd say like that's the majority probably of the listenership.

Of course. You know, it's like an 80-20 lifestyle. And I come to you and I'm like, I want to kick it to the next level and I want you to give me two or three things that you would start with so that I don't get overwhelmed, but so that I can kickstart in the right way. Where do you tell me to begin? Right there.

Everyone's striving for balance. Everyone wants to do good. Let's call it. Unless you're like on that path of self-destruction and you're just like in that trauma path, but there are people out there that's, that's doing that. But that is a process that some people have to go through to hit rock bottom, you know? So identify the exposures you're already receiving. So we talked about that. So now let's, let's move it up a notch. How you do anything is how you do everything. So start creating momentum in your everyday life on things that you can do. What water are you drinking?

Where are you getting your water? Are you drinking out of the tap? Are you drinking something from some plastic bottle that you have no idea where it's coming? Is it some purified water? Let's try to source good spring water. Maybe you go to your local grocery store and see if there's any good spring water there.

Water is super important. Number two, what are you bathing in? Did we talk about this on the first one? Got to get a shower filter. What you're bathing in is sometimes even more important than what you're drinking. Number two. Number three, are you moving your body? In order to release chemicals and toxins and metabolic waste, we need to be in movement. Movement is just as important as the nutrition you're putting in your body, maybe even more depending on your genetics and certain other things. So we got to be moving. We got to be in our breath work. We got to be in our yoga. We got to be inverting our body. We got to be taking our body to extreme positions where the body has to fight resiliency. Like I'm in a cold plunger.

I'm in the infrared sauna. I'm doing all these things. Maybe you don't have access to these things. Get into, start sprinting on the beach. You know what I mean? Explosive movements. These kinds of things radically move the lymph system so it can push toxic burdens out.

If you're eating fast food once a week, turn it into once every two weeks. You know what I mean? Just simple steps that people can take where it's not such a radical shift on their life. Because I'm not trying to tell people that take away what your coping stuff is, but just start being present to it as opposed to letting some other control keep you into a blind movement. We want to be aware of what we're doing every single day.

In terms of cleansing methods, I mean, we have a charcoal zeolite bentonite clay that tastes delicious. When's the right time to take that, by the way? You can take it anytime. I prefer taking it on the rise, fasted, or in the evening, fasted. Okay, so you want to do it like in a window

where there's no food. And not when you're pregnant. I can't, I won't recommend taking that while you're pregnant, but wink, wink, I don't see a problem with it. It's like one of those things that I have to be careful because there's certain things, there's certain studies out there that say, we don't know what zeolite,

how that interferes with pregnancy and stuff like that. I mean, you'd have to take copious amounts. But I would just talk to your healthcare practitioner or your alternative health person. For me to comment on that is a little bit dicey for me. Is there anything that you cannot take when you're pregnant that you're like, do not take that pregnant? I would say in our product line.

It could be in your product line or a mineral or a vitamin that you recommend avoiding. I would say stay away from our coated silver when you're pregnant because it's just so powerful and there's no point of taking it while you're pregnant. What's out there? I mean, most of the garbage that's being sold in most grocery stores that's being pawned off as vitamins, I would stay away from, of course. And what would you like lean towards? Which out of all your products, what would you lean towards?

I mean, our D3K2, for example, is one of the most important products that a pregnant mother can take. Isn't C important for pregnancy too? Fat soluble vitamins, vitamin C. You know what my favorite product is of yours? Our magnesium. Yes. How'd you know I was going to say that?

It's just, you know, it's a fan favorite. And it actually is one of the most powerful ways of getting magnesium into your brain. Dude, it is... Are you taking the topical too? I'm... No, that's what I'm taking. Oh, you're talking about the topical.

Yeah. There is this spray that Symbiotica has. It's in a blue bottle, you guys. And it's a spray and you spray it on your body and it's a topical magnesium that absorbs to the skin. It's a little bit of lavender and it smells so nice.

It's so nice to wind down. And I'm telling you, I spray it every single day. I do 20 sprays twice a day. Same. I'm about 20 sprays a day. It's amazing. I like that product.

Can you do more vitamin sprays so I can just spray it every night on my body? If you could have any drink right now, Lauren, what would it be? It would probably be Ashlyn's hard seltzer, ginger peach. I would love a ginger peach hard seltzer, maybe in a wine glass with some ice, a sprig of mint, a straw. It sounds so good. You know who my best friends were during the pandemic?

Who? First, my own thoughts, and then Ashlyn Hard Seltzer. That is true. And I'm telling you, when I give birth, I want Ashlyn Hard Seltzer on ice. It's the highest quality seltzer, in my opinion, on the market, which is why we obviously partnered with them. Handcrafted seltzer, the best, not just some swill in a bottle. This stuff is amazing. They have all different flavors, lavender, lemonade, orange pineapple, ginger peach. I also really like their watermelon. We had it at Saza's birthday and it was such a hit with the guests. They kept coming up to me. It's like in this turquoise can that looks really cute on the Instagram feed. I have not found a better seltzer than Ashland hard seltzer.

It's one of the only hard seltzers that's not super sugary and heavy. And it was founded in our hometown, San Diego in 2020. And it is the number one selling independent hard seltzer on the market in California. It's gluten-free, malt-free, zero carbs, sugar-free, no fat, and 100 calories. Okay. So for more info on Ashlyn, follow them on Instagram at Ashlyn Hard Seltzer. That's A-S-H-L-A-N-D-H-A-R-D-S-E-L-T-Z-E-R, Ashlyn Hard Seltzer. Check them out on Instagram. They're the brand to follow. They're the brand to drink. Ashlyn Hard Seltzer, our favorite. And drink a ginger peach for me.

Certain things can pass the skin barrier a lot easier than others. Magnesium chloride, that comes from the Dead Sea. So that's specifically from the Dead Sea. It's transdermal magnesium. Plus we have micro amounts of DMSO in there, dimethyl sulfoxide, which is a very polarizing raw material. But anything that's on the surface of your skin with DMSO will get into your blood. And so that's a powerhouse. And we're so deficient in magnesium. We're hitting pandemic levels when it comes to magnesium deficiency. I was just doing a whole interview on magnesium last Friday, I think. Magnesium is what controls nerve signaling. And so if you're deficient in magnesium and your nerve signaling is cut, then all of your body's ability to do anything that it needs to do is blunted.

And when it's blunted, what happens? You become emotionally unstable and then you're going to want stimulants and you're going to want all these different things. At the root of it, we just need to be mineralized. That's why we drink our Shilajit, which you guys were calling black gold or liquid gold. It's therapeutic. I like it when it goes in the water. Yeah.

Same here. This is your new protein. You guys are the first people outside of our tribe. This is it, right? That's it right there. I just almost down the whole thing. It's so good. It tastes like vanilla, but not like overwhelming vanilla.

And it tastes, I swear this is so weird. I can tell it's like already working. Is that weird? This is it. It's just, it's never been done before. How many grams of protein? What's in this? Is this water?

20 grams of protein. Oat milk. Oh. 20 grams of protein? What's in this? Is this water in this or is it the powder? Oat milk. 20 grams of protein per serving. It's organic spirulina, organic hemp, organic pea protein. No isolates. We don't believe in isolates. It's filled with raw green

complexes from organic alfalfa to barley grass. It's got all kinds of probiotics and prebiotics in here. No whey in here. Any whey? No whey in here. Okay. I had Dr. Gundry on

and he said, if you want to age, eat whey. Do you agree with that statement? If you want to age well or if you want to get older quicker. If you want to get older quicker, eat whey.

He does not like it. I think whey can have a place depending on the workouts you're doing, Lauren. I mean, that's part of it and not all whey is created equal. That's another thing.

You can't just blanketly shit on whey. I'm not blanketly shitting on whey. I'm not trying to do bad PR for whey. I'm just saying. I'm asking. I think alluding to it, there's a lot of companies that utilize whey in a very poor way. Whey is one of those things.

That was good. It's the milk industry, it's the milk. That was good. It's the milk industry, right? So the milk industry has as a by-product and then it uses way that takes that protein and then, you know, all the bodybuilders take it and then they're just like producing methane gas out of it. It's disgusting. But, but for example, like, I love my dad, but he's a by-product of Costco. Like this guy walks into Costco, doesn't even need a car. They're like this way. So they opened up a separate road for this motherfucker. And I told him like, I'm trying to get him like

more of these types of supplements because he goes and gets the Costco. And I'm like, dad, you might not be doing yourself any good there. Like let's, let's, but it's that generation, right? It's like, well,

we got the board Costco deal. There's so much trust. Cheese at things. Yeah. Actually, you know what though? I don't want to shit too much on Costco because I could use a Costco sponsorship. No, I think Costco is actually evolving in certain

ways because they're starting to get the truth. I wanted to share with you and I wanted to talk two more things on this. I took a 900,000 biomarker epigenetic test. I don't know if you saw that. I took it six months ago before a stem cell procedure that I did. I wanted to see the efficacy of the stem cells. So Duke University partnered with True Diagnostic and they test 900,000 biomarkers associated with aging from methylation to inflammation to all these different things. And what does this test entail? Is it blood? Is it like it's everything?

It's blood. There's questionnaire and all that kind of stuff, but it's a lot of blood. And it took three and a half months, four months to get the results. And so my chronological age, I was born December, 1980, I'm 41, but I got my epigenetic test back and there it is. It says I'm 24.

24. 24. Everything's 24 on your body. On my body. Every single facet of your body's 24. It's a 300 page report. Okay. I have, it's.

Is he 24, Jamie? Is he 24 everywhere? I love a 24 year old. It's 24 everywhere? I love a 24-year-old. It's been validated. I love a 24-year-old. Especially on the rise, if you get what I'm saying. Sometimes I got to jump in a cold shower just to be able to go. Okay. So you're attributing the majority of these great results to? It's everything. It's a perspective. It's the biology of belief. Dr. Bruce Lipton says, what you believe you're going to be. And epigenetics shows that through our environment. And our environment is our thoughts. It's our emotions. It's our day-to-day rituals. It's the foods we eat. It's the people we associate with. It's all of these things contribute to how we express certain genes towards aging. And we now know the root cause of all disease is aging.

So aging is an actual disease. They're not separated anymore. If you're a 60-year-old, it's 2,000 times more likely to develop certain cancers than a 30-year-old. And so why is that? Is it just because the number 60? No, it's because things wear out and things get tiresome and the body's ability to hold

its energy and frequency and electricity starts to wither out. So what we want to do is we want to do things to keep our voltage up. We want to keep our electric flow up. This is why toxins are burdens. This is why all these things are happening. There's a root cause to all of these pathologies. And we want to make sure that we're doing everything in a proper way so we can express through life properly and have the best time ever. And it's not about living to 200 years old or anything like that.

It's I want to be 90 and feel like I'm 30. Well, what you're saying has been proven now too. I read this book a while back and I'm going to fuck up. Maybe I'll link it in the intro. And it basically pointed out that if you were in the mid 1800s and you made it past your mid 40s, like you were considered an elderly person. Right. Because that's the centurion.

That's the new, that was the centurion. Yeah, exactly. Like living conditions. And if you told people now, like, hey, 40s old, it freaked the fuck out. And it proves one, obviously living conditions and the way we take care of our bodies, but also that humans now believe that you should get into your 80s and 90s as an elderly person. If you don't believe that before and you think 40s, then of course, that contributes. Biology of belief. Yes. And that's why all these commercials on TV, these pharmaceutical commercials, where it's showing people and they're elderly and all this

kind of stuff, that's all just a complete scam. It's just pounding in a narrative and people, you know, you start believing that you're going to shift your lifestyle to lead you directly into that. That's a fact. It's also how people would believe they used to have to retire at like 50, 60, right?

What is that? And then you basically, you tell yourself your life's over at that age. You almost have to put horse blinders on and just blind all this shit out and not let it affect the narrative in your brain. I completely agree. I mean, we just got back from Tulum a few days ago.

We were down there and we were with a lot of tribe. And I was just like, I was just, I was like, I forgot what I had forgotten, you know, living on the land. Like what? You know, well, I just, you know, we went through the Mayan ruins and we went through, you know, different like parts of the land and you're just, you're, you're reminded on what life's all about. And it's stripped from all the chaos of all these different things that this new technological world has created. And so your level of presence is so like, it's like omnipotent. Like you're like in God mode because you're so present. And when you're so present, you're so radically connected to like the people around you and the choices

that you're making, as opposed to just like taking on, like, you know, you're scurrying around, you know, like a chicken with its head cut off, running around in circles. It was just, it just put me into such, it's like when I'm in Kauai or when I'm out in the land or I'm out in the yard, these are the moments that, you moments that we need to start building more momentum towards. And that's how we stay young. That's how we stay healthy. I have gotten so into meditation this pregnancy. I'm just meditating all the time.

It's almost obnoxious. I don't know if it's because I can't have a margarita, but I'm just like meditating a lot. Do you have a meditation practice that you could share with the audience? Is it the same every day? Is it different when you travel? Could you walk us through that? What if I told you changing your mood was just as easy as changing a song on your phone and that you could not only change your mood, but your energy levels as well. Whether you want to feel super relaxed, wind down and get some great sleep or just feel happy and energized like you just had a cup of coffee. Well, I got the answer for you. And that's happy. As many of you know, I've been on a full-blown wellness kick for the last six months and recently shared a bunch of our protocols. We just did a full episode about

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Order today and you'll save 25% and get 90 days free access to all their signals. Take advantage of their 365-day guarantee today. Go to happy.com slash skinny. That's H-A-P-B-E-E.com slash skinny to save 25% on your order. If you don't believe me, it also has a 365-day guarantee, which means you can test it for a full year. Can't figure it out by a full year. I don't know what to tell you. Go to happy.com slash skinny. That's H-A-P-B-E-E.com slash skinny to save 25% on your order. Happy.com slash skinny. Yeah, I think that's, first of all, great work. I mean, or great magic. I don't even want to call that work because that's some kind of magic. When you're meditating, you're allowed to tune into your internal self outside of the frontal conscious. And we know the subconscious

is 50,000 times stronger than the regular conscious. For example, driving here to LA, I was on a phone call half the time and I don't even remember driving here. So my subconscious took over that drive where my front conscious was in that call with like team members or stuff like that. That's how powerful the subconscious is. And so when you get into meditation, you're tapping into that subconscious. So you're allowing access to it. And that's one of the most valuable things we can do in terms of our health and our overall destiny in life, especially while carrying a child. You have a child that's taking the cues from you completely. So for me, I think anything could be meditation.

Obviously, deep diaphragmatic breath, which is what I probably should have done before I jumped onto this table. Slowing down all of my biological systems that are related to the main prana or main access point to our life, which is breath. And that's breathing deeply through the gut, slow, calculated breaths,

and then eventually turning it up into the lungs, number one. Number two, whatever you like to do. This came up because I was listening to a podcast with me and my friend Jennifer. She had just given birth, and we were talking about her pregnancy and stuff. And we said that in order to really like get to a place of like higher health and balance and wellness, we have to do the things that we love to do. And so like for me, I love to grow food.

I love to get out into the yard. I love to love to grow food. I love to get out into the yard. I love to walk on the beach. I love to swim in the ocean. I love to surf. And whether it's shore break or out there on a point break, those are all forms of meditation for me. Being in those types of movements and things like that, that have become ritual is a meditation. So it doesn't have to be in Vipassana around with 432 hertz chimes. You don't have to take it to... You can, but it doesn't have to be in that for it to be a meditation. Your meditation could be anything that you love to do with consistency and ritual that brings a positive effect back to you. I love it.

Yeah, of course. Last night, we were talking about... It was Sunday night and we had to get back to work this week and there's so much to do. We were talking about how we were anxious. What do you do when you're anxious? What's in your toolbox? Is it a vitamin? Is it a meditation?

Is it sitting in silence? What are your little tools that you use when you feel anxiety creeping up? I got to move my body. So first and foremost, if I feel anxiety, it's probably because I'm not moving my body. Moving my body is really what releases endorphins and lowers the stress.

Getting my feet onto the earth, first and foremost, like that has to happen. Climbing a tree, hugging a tree. Those are the things. Making sure I'm hydrated, right? A lot of stress comes from clinical dehydration. We're dehydrated as a humanity. I mean, on epic levels of dehydration,

you know, getting nutrients in my body, making sure I'm having healthy fats into my body. There's a lot of supplements on the symbiotic line, especially that can create balance. Like our magnesium L3 and eight, that's a massive dose to magnesium straight to the brain that immediately calms the central nervous system and relaxes the body.

That stuff's incredible. I was almost out and your site was out and I was like, I was almost having a meltdown. I was like, fuck, do I gotta pull a power cord? It's hard to keep that in stock. That's your favorite one. I was like, do I gotta call this guy up and pull that move?

Michael likes, just for the audience to know, that Michael likes the packets and I like the spray. I mean, I like the packets too. I just love the spray. Listen, I'm not bullshitting. And this is... Well, they both work synergistically. I am not bullshitting you.

I'm telling you this honestly. And we obviously work with different businesses across the show. Sure. I love every fucking product. I take... I'm not kidding.

I almost take all of them. I think. I think. He's a collector. I'm not taking the allergy one right now. You know what he did? They're getting better though. Do you know what he did in kindergarten? He collected every single

PEZ that there was on the planet. Every single PEZ. And his mom still has them. He has like 6,000 PEZ that he collected. That's his meditation. Your vitamins are now the PEZ. These are the right things to collect. Women, you know.

You collect women. I'm too tired. But no. Okay, back. I love that you're honest. That's the best ever. So refreshing. Back to the magnesium though.

Yeah. Well, both magnesiums work synergistically together. So the three and eight crosses the blood-brain barrier. Explain what that means. Okay. So magnesium is the conductor of nerve signaling throughout the body. That's why when

you drink alcohol, it strips your body of magnesium. That's why you black out. I mean, just think about that. Right. And that's a whole concept that we can get into. So that's why I blacked out. Yeah. Well, alcohol strips you of a lot of nutrients, specifically magnesium. And that's a problem. Magnesium creates the electrical connection between cells. We're electrical. Your heart's electrical, your brain's electrical, all that kind of stuff. So we're completely deficient in magnesium. That's a fact. It's not in our foods anymore. We're supposed to be getting our magnesium from certain meats, from dark greens, different stuff, but it's devoid because the soil is devoid.

So we got a supplement. MIT was able to figure out how to get magnesium in the brain at a high clip. And they created magnesium L3 and eight, which is a salt vitamin C chloride attached to magnesium. And that penetrates the blood brain barrier at a high rate. Most magnesium can't make its way up there. That's why most magnesium is almost acts like a laxative, right? If you take too much magnesium, you're just kind of cleaning out your bowels. So this form makes it to the brain. We put ours in liposomal form and just made it taste fantastic with all organic raw materials. So it's the best ever.

You combine that with our magnesium chloride, the topical, then you're getting both. You're triangulating magnesium into your center point. I mean, it's just that's probably the most important thing you can do nutrient-wise is become overly saturated in magnesium. Let's say you're talking to someone who's on a college student budget. They're living in their dorm and they can only afford a couple of products. Yes. What would you recommend to them or is it different for everybody?

Well, that's why Symbiotica does such a good job and the team does such a good job. But that's why we introduced the bundling service. So our thing is that we're just trying to grow the company and put out the best products ever. So we created a subscription service where you can get these products at a very reasonable cost. So I just wanted to put that out there. And you offered a generous code for these listeners who are skinny. So that applies to the bundle. We want to help people.

How are we going to help them if we're burning their abundance out the window? We want them to see results. We want them to be going to the doctor less. We want them to be paying for crap less. So we're going to make the best products on earth, even though it costs us an arm and a leg. I mentioned to you our new protein formula that's coming out. This has to be a must for everybody, hands down.

And then from there, our magnesium formula, our vitamin C formula, our methylcobalamin combo, the B12 formula. Those are 100% and our Shilajit because that's just a high dose of mineralization. Here's how I see it. And I try to consider myself to be a semi-productive person, if not productive person. And when I think about spending money on supplements or health and wellness to make me feel better, logically, you would think that if I feel better and have more energy and I'm in a healthier space,

that I could be more productive, right? And if I could be more productive, I could actually potentially create more sources of income, more abundancy in my life, more opportunities for the people I work with and the people I care about. Shocking revelation, right? And so like when I, when people, you know, cause I'll share this stuff and we've been talking more about our health and people inevitably will say, well, this stuff is expensive. It's push it. And I'm like, yes, it is an investment, but you would never start a business or a relationship or anything without putting in and you would not, you would put an investment into those entities, whatever they are to help them grow. Of course. So you would think that a similar concept would apply to your body. Yes, it's an investment,

but if you put money or dollars or something, whatever into that, into this vessel, you will have a better vessel that can produce more. Absolutely. Money, more abundance, more whatever. Okay, but here's the problem. It's an investment. Michael's nails, since he's been on your product, have never been longer.

I've known him since he was 12. His nails are so long, he has acrylics. He has to fucking cut his nails every two days. His nails are growing and growing and growing and growing. His hair what's going on those are indicators that you're properly mineralized so your nails your skin those are all indications that your body's firing and on a good level well i know too because i just went through maybe not as in depth as you did but i went through this whole crazy blood panel with like your blood count your hormone level your liver all the all the shit like as much as i could get and like for the first time in a few years, all my vitamin levels are like pretty optimal.

Amazing. Yes. That's cool. I wanted to tell you that. That's my favorite thing. I receive probably 10 of those a day from people. They send it to me on social media or I get emails of them, you know, sending me their blood results across the board, their panels, all this stuff, liver and this and that. And they're just like, wow, this is actually changing my life. Thank you. To see it empirically versus just like, oh, I feel better is really important and something we're looking at in Symbiotica to create actual testing kits so people can see their levels. We're working on that. We're moving at a fast rate. There's so many things going on right now. It's insane.

But we have the best team on earth. Our entire Symbiotica family is incredible. And I'm going to say this right now because this is coming out on the 31st. We just did a brand. We're redoing the brand right now. So everything's kind of upgrading. And we just moved into our campus down in San Diego. And it's a 20,000 square foot campus. I want to check it out next time we're down there soon. When you come to walk into this place, you're like, wait a second, people come here to work? I mean, it's got like meditation rooms and yoga.

And it's like, this is what Symbiotica is. That's what we're doing. I work with this body worker. That's the most... I connected you to Josh. That's right. The most incredible body worker ever. I'm the most... I connected you to Josh. That's right. He is the most incredible body worker ever. I'm setting up...

We're setting that up. You're going to fucking flip when you meet him. I want to fucking flip. He always... No, it's a whole different thing. You literally get high. So he's super into what he eats and what goes into his body and on his body,

like more than anyone I've ever met. And I don't want to put him on blast, but like the physicians and doctors, they're people, they're up there. It's crazy. No, yeah. He's on the level. He's amazing.

So he always talks to me about all these healthy things that I can do. And he said, yeah, I have these two role models that I look to when it comes to supplements. And he said, you and David Sinclair. Oh, wow. And I had just interviewed you and I was like freaking out

and we like went back and forth about it. And he was just saying that both of you guys just know your shit. And then I realized that you guys are also friends. What are a couple things that you and David Sinclair, what are some things that you have taught him and he has taught you in the wellness world? Well, David Sinclair, first of all, that's beautiful to receive that. I'm forever a student

and I want to make that clear. I chop wood, carry water, I become enlightened, and then I do the same thing every single day. And that's the way to live your life. I'll forever be a student and I'm always learning. I learned a lot from David over the last few years just by seeing how they approach aging. And I read his book and he has this whole concept that you live in a health span half your life. And at some point you cross over into the disease span. And when I mentioned earlier

that disease is a product of aging, I got a lot of that information from him in terms of understanding how our cellular networks were and different factors that cause activations of genes expressing aging before it's supposed to. So he talks about sirtuin pathways. What is it about a sirtuin pathway? How do we flex our health and stay active? And that inspired me to really start pushing my body into hormesis, which I already knew at an early age, this is

the way to go. What is hormesis? That which does not kill you makes you stronger, right? So jumping in cold rivers, fasting for three, four days, having my body's survival mechanisms expressed. We need that. We're in a mechanistic material world now where if we want to change the temperature, we press a dial. If we want to go to sleep, we put the shades down. If we want food and water, we press a button or make a phone call. A hundred years ago, we had to hunt our food. We had to grow our food. We had to put the fire on. We had to do all these things that our livelihood and our lives depend on. That creates immune system and creates strength. And for me, my nose is running right now because I think I got attacked allergy-wise. It's so funny because when I was in Austin, I got worked after I met you guys.

Yeah, that's a cedar fever. Long story short, David Sinclair taught me what I already knew instinctively and then showed me the science behind it. And then it motivated me to create a formula, nicotinamide mononucleotide, NMN, and combine that with other antioxidants that work synergistically with it. It's probably our number one anti-aging formula that we have. I don't know if you're on the NMN. It's the white bottle. It's the white bottle. I've seen it, but I haven't tried it yet. I made a big mistake.

I took zinc on an empty stomach. Holy shit. That was a mistake, huh? Yeah. I'm putting a PSA out there. Why did it fuck my stomach up so much without eating? Okay, because it's works. Okay, number one, right? So it's a very complex form of zinc. There was three forms in there with two forms of copper and one form of selenium. Four of them are trademarked. That thing is a monster. It's a beast. That's like your Viagra, by the way. You take one of those in the evening, you're on. Your dick's hard all night. All night, especially on the rise. So from like 6am to 10, forget about it. That's baby making

time. So you got to have that with your largest meal of the day until you acclimate. I can take it right now, no problem. But I recommend people having it with- Why does it make the stomach feel like that? Well, you have tight junctions in your gut. And so this is such a concentrate that it just floods that and then causes the stomach to roll over. And it just doesn't even know how to acclimate it. It's just so potent, right? Think of like super potency.

Like if you eat raw liver sometimes, that's like so potent that can make you nauseous. Things that are so nutrient dense. Keeping in the theme of wellness, as you guys know, Lauren and I take the Just Thrive probiotic and we're both obsessed with it. We've had founders of that brand on the show to discuss gut health multiple times. And we just think that that's at the top of the heap when it comes to probiotics. But they have another product that we both love, and that's their Just Calm product. It's described as a psychobiotic because it's an incredible supplement to reduce stress,

balance cortisol, improve sleep, and it even encourages focus and flow. So you guys have been asking, how do we get better sleep? How do we keep our stress in order? This is definitely one of the tools that we use. And we take this along with the probiotic for mood and stress balance. And it's a full-on game changer. I imagine that many of you, especially if you listen to those two episodes with the Just Thrive founders, are already on their probiotic. And if you aren't, you really should be. Now, in addition to that, I would definitely like to recommend the Just Calm product as well. It's a great mood supplement, stress supplement, like I mentioned. And you can grab both and get 15% off at Just Thrive Probiotics. And you can grab both and get 15% off both the Just Thrive Probiotic and the Just Calm when you go to justthrivehealth.com

and use code SKINNY at checkout. That's justthrivehealth.com and use code SKINNY at checkout. When you eat on a daily basis, like breakfast, lunch, and dinner, what are some things that you go towards? Like, are you reaching for almond butter? Do you eat a lot of greens? Like, are you more vegan? No, no, no, no. I'm a qualitarian. Self-proclaimed qualitarian.

Wait, put that in your Instagram. It's on my front of my Instagram. We talked about this last time. He is a qualitarian. I'm a qualitarian. That's fucking amazing. When was the last time you had fast food? I'm just curious.

I mean, actual like drive-through fast food. Maybe when I was 18 or 19. Wow. Yeah. When's the last time you had fast food? Friday, Taco Bell. Oof. Taco Spell.

How many times a week do you think you're eating fast food? Once. Lie. Maybe twice. A day? No, a week. I don't go that often.

That's like when I asked you how many times you watch porn a week and you're like once. And then I looked at your history and it was like every five minutes. Porn's another form of fast food, which is a disaster to the soul talk about that go off go off go off really this guy grabs a bucket of panda express and hits the porn i just want to say this about fast food though in particular fast food is not just not just because

it's filled with trans fats and all these things but it's filled with weird karma you're getting like tortured animals that have been you know up and their adrenaline it was cranking when they tortured the animal and killed it and you're taking on all of that energy you're also getting filled with gmos and pesticides and glyphosate which dilapidate your microbiota which then causes confusion and disaster deregulates your immune system up your, your thyroid goes out, then you have pituitary issues, then you're on all these fucking pharmaceutical drugs

and you're fucked. All right, so- Burger King's never going to sponsor this show now. He's ordering McDonald's this week. I'm just kidding. Let's talk about porn. Yeah, let's talk about porn. Porn, the mass ritual of devoiding the cosmic union.

Our lives are existing because of the alchemy between man and woman, right? the mass ritual of devoiding the cosmic union. I mean, our lives are existing because of the alchemy between man and woman, right? That's the cosmic union. I mean, the expressiveness of creating a temple on earth of just pure beauty and love and oxytocin

and all these amazing alchemies that are created between a man and a woman or people that love each other. So for me, pornography was particularly created and designed specifically to remove the sacredness of that experience between a man and a woman. Now, I'm not here saying that you can't get kinky and get sexual and go into lust. Of course not. I think that's part of being human. I'm the same way, so I'm not judging that. But what I'm saying is that habitual pornography has lowered the gratitude of experiencing the cosmic union of creating life.

And it's devalued the energy of that experiment and that experience of lovemaking. And that's destroyed the responsibility it is to choose a partner for that reason, as opposed to just doing it for a gratification. I mean, I like porn. I'm like you. I like porn. I can appreciate porn. I like watching porn with my husband sometimes. But I do agree that it is experience stretching. Because you're just stretching the experience, stretching the experience until like, I mean, how do you even win? If you were watching porn,

you know, since you were 10 years old, 11 years old, 12, that's really where the distortion can begin. Right. That's how you experience lovemaking and you project that into your partnerships. And, you know, it's not just so much the positions of pornography,

the physical, it's just physical, it just becomes repetitive and you lose the love part of it of actually sinking into your partnership and having the souls actually melt into each other and on that level. And I'm not just speaking hippity dippity. This is real tantric lovemaking and things of that nature. But you're in a marriage. You got kids. You want to spark things up a bit.

I'm not about saying, bring in another third girl or whatever, or watch a little bit of whatever. There's no judgment to that. You got to do what you got to do. But also just being hyper aware and knowing what your intention is with porn. If your intention with porn is to just get off every single day with your hand, you're fucking yourself up. You're masturbating your cosmic alchemy out the window. I do semen retention. What's that? Hold on. You got to get specific. What's semen retention? No, you know what I love about this podcast? It's like we're

talking about magnesium spray and then it's like I do semen retention. What's semen retention? We shouldn't be orgasming every single day. There are moments where we can have multiple orgasms and just go berserk for a couple of days. Absolutely. But ultimately, the longer we can hold our chi, our jing, our seed, the better it is for us, for our ability to manifest, our ability to get stronger physically.

It takes a lot of the, the body to, to, to manufacture semen. Yeah. I think it's a, I think it's a mistake when guys are just getting off all the time. Cause like you said,

I think it, I think it diminishes a lot of the returns you get in other areas of life. Right. A hundred, a hundred percent. And that's, that's science too. It's,

it's spiritual and it's, that's one of the biggest problems with porn, especially for young. I mean, luckily I grew up in a, I mean, similar to you. Like when we found a porn cassette, it was like, holy shit.

I remember that. Like we didn't have instant access. And I didn't get a smartphone until after college. So you had to go out and hunt, right? When Taylor got his smartphone, he penciled in porn three times a day. I empathize. I have friends that are parents of older kids now, older boys. And like, say they're like 12, 13, and they have instant access to porn on their phone 24 seven. I don't think that's going to

manifest in a good way long term. You know what? This was not the move. Just a side note to light this candle with you. I didn't light the candle. Taylor did. Let's blame it on Taylor. But this candle is not the move. Why are we sending candles? Just while we have while we have you, candles we got to be careful of too, right? Anything that you're going to inhale for sure. Mostly candles are filled with so much weird pesticides and toxins and chemicals and weird petroleum. Yeah. You got to have like a beeswax one that's non-fragrant.

Any brands or no. Are you lighting candles in your house? Of course. But we make our own. Oh my God. You make your own? Of course. He went down our own. Oh my God, you make your own? Of course. He went down, he weaved it, he pulled it, he found the wax.

Maybe we need a candle line too. I wanted to come here and really set it off today, but it was a disaster getting into LA. How about pregnancy real quick before we go? Go, go, and postpartum. And postpartum. I mean, yeah, postpartum is real, right?

You have like all these hormones that are trying to switch on because you're creating a baby and then all of a sudden you have estrogen dominance and all of a sudden you get hair loss

and depression and anxiety and you dry up emotionally and physically. So there's a lot of things, a lot of strategies that we have to implement to make sure that

that process is a lot smoother. Help me. When she's going through it, this time I'm bringing you in. You don't have a choice. No, it was actually, yeah, that process is a lot smoother. Help me. When she's going through it this time, I'm bringing you in. You don't have a choice. No, it was actually... Put it on the calendar. No, that's the next episode is postpartum. Last time she struggled. She's talked about it. Okay. Let's definitely do that.

I'm going to text you though and annoy you. Like, what are some supplements that I should be taking postpartum? And what can Michael do to support me? Because last time was interesting. What? Healthy fats. I mean, our... Healthy fats. I mean, okay. So I'm surprised we haven't talked about it, but our omega formula, which is the cleanest omega formula on earth, hands down. The black one with the acid, the acid. Astaxanthin,

docosahexaenoic acid. There's EPA in there. There's C. buckthorn, omega-3, 6, 7, and 9. You need these healthy omegas in there. These are healthy fats that will help stabilize a lot of the estrogen issues that you could be creating. Also our D3K2, this is the new one that actually comes out tomorrow on Symbiotica. This right here, the K2 specifically, that will really help with the formation of the child's jaw structure and bone structure and all that. So there's something to that. This green formula, this right here, two of these a day, you're solid, you're stoked, you're happy. This is, I mean, this right here,

just there's dairy-free probiotics in here. There's soil-based probiotics. We also have a digestive enzyme complex in here called Digesticeb, which is a trademark version. That's protease, amylase, cellulase, lactase, lipase, all that in this. There's organic mushrooms in here. This is a meal here in the best way ever. And there's no... All these companies out there, even the ones that look organic and greenwashed, they have... Some of them have natural flavors in there. They all have fillers in there.

Do you know what we use as a raw material? Let me just say this. This is how crazy we are. You have to have an agent in there so this thing doesn't clump, right? And this has been sheared so much that it's a micro powder. You can mix it without a blender. So you have to have something in there. We have no fillers in here, no gums, none of that stuff. We used baobab extract. Do you guys know what baobab is?

Baobab is the tree of life from Africa. And it comes from this specific part of the Mozambique where there's a tribe of women extract. Do you guys know what baobab is? Baobab is the tree of life from Africa. And it comes from this specific part of the Mozambique where there's a tribe of women that are taking this fruit off the tree, drying it and grinding it. And it's a prebiotic. So we're like the first company that's not only energetically, just think about the energy of that, but that's our filler to keep this thing stable. It's from a baobab tree from Africa. And it's a prebiotic. It just shows you how you do anything. It's how you do everything. Everything we talk about, it's intention behind every move, every action, every step. You want to watch porn? Have intention with it. You want to have a margarita? Have intention with it. When I was in Tulum, I had a mezcal.

Fuck yeah. But I knew where that mezcal was coming from. And my intention was to tap into an energy with that mezcal, not to get plastered and forget about the night and do stupid shit. Next time we have you on, we'll talk all about postpartum. Postpartum. Let's go heavy on postpartum. We can do a whole thing because I was not prepared the first time. I don't think I even was taking a supplement besides just

like a multivitamin. Yeah. There's so many things from breath work to red light therapies to the position of your sleeping, to the waters you're drinking, to the fats you're eating, to certain nutrients. To my husband rubbing my feet and doing... Placenta capsules. I ate my placenta. You ate your placenta. Should I have eaten it like a steak or I ate it in pill form? Both, right?

So the placenta is an organ that's created to create the conductor of life. You should probably put some of it in like a shake with raw milk and then you should dry up the rest and then encapsulate it and eat it with fat. I have a hot tip. My doula told me to save some of my placenta pills. So when my daughter hits the age of puberty, she can take them. It's supposed to help your daughter get through puberty. I thought that was interesting.

There's truth to that. What's our code? Where can everyone find you? Code skinny, symbiotica.com. Follow- Chervene. And Symbiotica. And Symbiotica. Yeah. Follow Chervene and Symbiotica. And Symbiotica.

Yeah. Thank you for coming up again. Thank you. Symbiotica, CodeSkinny. Thank you guys. We're going to break some more records with this one. Go listen to the first episode if you haven't too. Onwards and upwards.

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