The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Cheryl Hines On Acting With Larry David, RFK Jr.’s Vision, & Advice For Non-Toxic Living

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

#797: Join us as we sit down with Cheryl Hines – Emmy Award-nominated actress, director, & producer, best known for her iconic role on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Cheryl shares her incredible journey, from her early days as an aspiring actress to becoming a standout star on one of America’s most beloved shows. She also shares insights about her life as the wife of lawyer & former 2024 U.S. presidential candidate, & U.S. Secretary of Health & Human Services nominee, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In this episode, Cheryl opens up about behind-the-scenes moments on set, her experiences working with Larry David, pivotal moments in her career, navigating cultural & political differences in relationships, & her dedication to healthy non-toxic living.  To connect with Cheryl Hines click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. Visit shophinesyoung.com and use code SKINNY for 30% off all products.  This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Optimize your daily beauty routine. Shop Beauty Water (one day) EARLY at ShopSkinnyConfidential.com.  This episode is sponsored by Vivrelle Go to vivrelle.com and apply for a membership today using code SKINNY for 30% off 4 months of membership - the code will also allow you to skip the Vivrelle waitlist. This episode is sponsored by The Farmer’s Dog Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at TheFarmersDog.com/skinny. Plus, you get FREE shipping!  This episode is sponsored by Squarespace Head to squarespace.com/SKINNY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SKINNY. This episode is sponsored by Seedlip Start the New Year right by visiting seedlipdrinks.com and entering the code SKINNYCONFIDENTIAL to get 20% off your purchase.  This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health We've worked out a special deal with Hiya for their best selling children's vitamin. Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/SKINNY. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Visit BetterHelp.com/SKINNY today to get 10% off your first month. Produced by Dear Media  

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Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, Him and Her. Aha! Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of The Skinny Confidential, Him and Her show. Today we're sitting down with Cheryl Hines. Cheryl is an Emmy Award nominated actress, director and producer. She's best known for her iconic role on Curb Your Enthusiasm, playing Larry David's wife. I'm sure many of you know her from that. She also happens to be the wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and on this episode we're

talking all about the behind-the-scenes on Curb. We're talking about working with Larry David, pivotal moments in her career, how people can navigate her career in acting, navigating the cultural and political differences in relationships, and her dedication to healthy and non-toxic living. This episode is very well-rounded. We go all over the place as usual. Really enjoyed getting to know Cheryl and being able to speak to her on so many different things. Lauren and I are huge fans of her work on Curb

and have watched every single episode from every single season. With that, Cheryl Hines, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her show. This is the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her. Let's get the lay of the land with you. Okay. When did you know when you were little that you wanted to act or was this something later on? I always knew.

I always knew when I was young, I mean, my sister and I would do sketch shows for my parents inspired by Carol Burnett. I mean, we, you sister and I would do sketch shows for my parents inspired by Carol Burnett. I mean we what we you know we watched that and and then when I was in middle school I I started you know doing school plays and stuff and then high school I was very serious about it. So were you like so serious that you're like I'm going to Los Angeles serious or are you serious like I want to do theater? What kind of series? Yeah, where did you grow up?

I grew up in Florida. OK, you told me, so you mentioned that when you came in. I grew up in Florida. I grew up in Tallahassee mostly. I knew that I wanted to make a living as an actor. But I did not have a clear plan. But I, so after high school, I didn't think I wanted to go to college.

So I went to beauty school. I got my cosmetology license and I cut hair. And then all my friends were in college and I thought, what am I, are they going to be smarter than me when they get out? So I decided, okay, I should go to college. And I put myself through college. I majored in television production, and minored in theater, and then that was in Florida, I mean Orlando, and then a few years later I packed up my Toyota Tercel and

headed to Los Angeles. When you moved here was it overwhelming with auditioning? I've heard a lot of different stories where people say you get a lot of no's before you get a yes. Well, I didn't even have the opportunity to audition. I didn't have an agent. I was really starting from scratch, which most actors are. I mean, everyone starts from scratch,

doing whatever they're going to do. So when I came here, I was bartending at a hotel downtown, trying to get an agent, sending my headshots and resumes back in the olden days. And then I started taking classes at the Groundlings Theater that does improv and sketch. And that's really when my life changed. Who were you meeting at this at this Groundlings? Because this is so many people like love this situation.

We had a bunch of people come on the show that have pursued a career in acting. And they like praised this place. Explain it to someone like me who has no concept of what this looks like. Is it a tiny room? Is it huge? Like, what's it look like? It's a 99 seat theater on Melrose. It's red brick and it's cool. and there's a live band that plays, you know, with the shows. So it's almost like watching Saturday Night Live, but you're in a little theater and you're watching people improvise.

You know, in front of your own eyes you hear what the suggestion is and then the next thing you know, you know, they're doing a scene or doing songs or doing dances. It's just, it's kind of mind-blowing when you first go there because you're watching it and you know, oh, they have to really know what they're doing to be able to do it so quickly. So you're able as a student to see the live edit of someone else on stage. So say Joe blows on stage and the teacher gives him the edit in live time. You're watching that. So you're actually learning actively.

Right. Right. So when I started Lisa Kudrow was my first teacher. She was famous at the time. She was on Mad About You. And so... I remember that show. Yeah, and I was starstruck just from that. And then after I was done with my class with her, she got friends. So that was crazy.

And when I was in, going through the school there, Will Ferrell and Sherry O'Terry, you know, they, there's just some of the people, Mandy Sterling, that are, were performing. So I would just, it was my, I was in heaven to just go and watch them. You're a looker, are the guys asking you out, left and right?

Be honest. At the groundlings? Yeah. Oh, uh. Yeah. She's not going to say. If you have to think, she's being humble. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, when you're doing theater, you're really just around that group all the time.

So yes, was there some dating going on within the company? I'd say, yeah. When you did your first improv there, or maybe like one of your improv, was there a moment that it was so overwhelming and so nervous? Do you remember a moment? Oh my gosh.

I mean, that's a lot. Well, there's one moment that always stands out to me because you have to go through the whole school. So there are different classes that you have to take and you have to pass and the teacher has to say I think you should go to the next level or they cut you and they say this isn't for you yeah so by the time you are invited to the company if you are invited to the company you feel like okay I have a handle on this. But one time, we were doing a live show and we were all up on the stage the whole time. So to end an

improv that somebody's doing right in front of you, you clap your hands, they freeze, and then you go in and take their place and start a different improv. So this, we were doing this, this show and there were only two girls in the show and the rest were guys, and all the guys ended up doing this big song and they are dancing and see this huge hilarious improv. And my friend and I were looking at each other like, oh my gosh, we have to clap them out because it can't go on and we're the only two left. And so we clap and that ended and the audience went crazy.

Then we go out on stage and one of the number one rules of improv is to make eye contact with your partner because you're looking to see. That's stressful too. Because you don't know the partner. You're not like, ugh. Well, you're hoping, oh, I hope you have an idea.

So we're both looking at each other and we're acting like we're drinking tea and we're just waiting for the other person to say something first and we both had nothing and we just sat there drinking invisible tea for so long and at one point what's fun about doing it live is the audience knew. I mean they just watched this huge production and now these two and we're just drinking tea. So is it so embarrassing? No, you learn not to get embarrassed

because that's also what's hard about improv because you have to make a choice in the moment and it's not always going to be right and it's okay. Sounds like life. Yeah it is life. Sounds like this show. I think about saying things like I don't know how to say that. Your experience in college sounds different than Michael's. He was singing and dancing in a different way, probably naked in a fraternity doing something weird. It's a little different. It's a little different. She's like learning all these things. I want to hear it. You're singing and dancing in a fraternity. It's just a different. She wasn't there at all. She wasn't.

No, I can just imagine. She told her about it. No, I don't tell her anything either. She just, she's got all these crazy ideas. I was basically studying to be a preacher. A priest or something. I was like, and I was like a choir boy. So you weren't singing and dancing.

You were singing in the choir. It's hard for me to recollect those times. You were wearing a kilt singing and dancing. It's the same kind of thing. It's just a different, different. Do you not wear anything under your kilt? You don't have to answer that. Answer it. It doesn't really go with the kilt.

I like to make the outfit appropriate. If a guy came up to me in a kilt and hit on me with nothing under the kilt, I'm out. I'm out. You wouldn't know that there was nothing under it until it was, until you had gone down a path. I think I might I'm out. But you wouldn't know that there was nothing under it until it was, until you had gone down a path. I think I might know if Michael.

You'd find out eventually. I think there's just a lot going on. I like to really get into character when I... When you're at, it's called the groundlings. Yes. Okay. When you're at the groundlings, is there a moment that was like a big break while you were there or did this not come till later? Well, I was in the groundlings when I was cast on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

What year was that? I can't believe that. That was 1999. We've seen every episode. Oh my gosh. Well, it started as a one hour special. So it was just going gonna be Larry David going back to doing stand-up.

And they wanted to hire an unknown actress. Thank God I hadn't gotten any work until then. And I went in and it was all improvised, you know. I went in and improvised with Larry, and then they told me I got the part later that day. Were you nervous improv-ing with Larry David or did you not overthink it? I didn't overthink it. I didn't really even know who he was.

I knew that he created Seinfeld with Jerry Seinfeld and that was, you know, amazing. But I didn't know what he looked like. I didn't know anything about him. I get that. I didn't know who he, like I didn't know, I couldn't picture him before that show either. He wasn't front facing. No, no, he wasn't.

So, and it wasn't, I find improvising in front of a live audience very stressful. Yeah. So this was just like a little room like this, you know, where we're just talking. What's the improvise that you do with him the first time? Do you remember? Well, he, they told me that this was supposed to feel, it's, you know, it's supposed to look like a documentary and that I, I don't put up with Larry's bullshit and I'm married to him and we have kids. That's all I do. So I was like, okay

I went in and Larry said okay, let's just say we've got a couple kids and Just so you know, I don't eat chicken anymore. And Alright, let's just start talking So we start talking Eddie that we start talking about dinner and I said, you know, oh well we're gonna have Roasted potatoes and green beans and chicken cacciatore. And he said I don't eat chicken anymore. I just told you that I said no, you don't have to eat it He said, oh, why are we having chicken if I'm not eating it? I said because we still eat chicken you don't have you don't have to eat it. Don't worry about it

And this went back and forth for a while We still eat chicken. You don't have to eat it. Don't worry about it. This went back and forth for a while. They asked, he asked me to do another one and he said, look, can I talk to you about something? Yeah, I don't think you put enough milk in the kids cereal bowls. And I said, well, I cover the flakes. And he's like, well, can you just fill it up to the top?

I said, no, I cover the flakes. They're not, that's just a waste of milk. We don't need to fill up the hole. And that went on for a while. And that was it. That is amazing. And how much of the- The fact that that is such a funny thing to say.

How much of the rest of the show and the series and all the subsequent seasons were things like that? Like how much did you guys improv? Cause it feels like when you're watching it, like a lot of it is. All of it is. Yeah, all of it is. So we didn't have a script. We had a story outline, which was about five or six pages

long. So he might say, scene one, Cheryl tells Larry her parents are coming to visit for two weeks. And then that's it. That gives you a greater appreciation as a fan of the show, for the show. Because you realize that how... That's why the show I think is so good and it has such a different essence than other shows because it really feels real.

Yeah. I had no idea that you guys were improv-ing. But now that you say that, like, I can understand why I like the show now. Yeah, because it definitely has a different feel. Some people, it's some people, it takes them a few episodes to sort of get used to that different rhythm. Cause it's not like a bunch of writers in a room,

they wrote a joke and then the audience laughs. It's not that. Is the word you would describe it as dry? Is that the right word I'm looking for? What's the... How would you describe it? Yes, dry. Real? Real, yes. I mean, you know, Larry would write a lot of stories based on true life. So he would carry around a pad of paper and anytime something funny

happened he'd write it down and... What's great about that, what we love, it's things that I think we all think but don't have the courage to say out loud. Mm-hmm. Does he really like the character and are you at all like your character? Larry always says that's the version of him he'd like to be all the time but he is a lot like that you know he is a lot like that we we went to lunch one day and he saw somebody that he went to school with the college with they said hello we went and sat down and then Larry said oh you know I have to use bathroom I said okay because why I don't want to get up I have to walk by that guy again. I I get it and I was like Larry

It's not a big deal and he's like, yeah, no we are just what am I gonna say if I go over oh hey Hey college, I think just and then that's all we talked about during lunch was well What if he is there a back exit? Could he go around and go around the building? I was just like... I relate to that so much. I relate to that so much. What are you saying? That's amazing. Like we talk about all the time, or we've talked about it all in different

and different iterations is when the episode where he sees the person in New York that's from LA and the guy's like, let's get together. And he's like, why would we ever get together? We don't get together in the city. We all know a person like that. You run into someone in Paris, they're like, oh my God, we should hang out. And you're like, but we don't hang out in Austin. You're like, what's happening?

But Larry would say that out loud and he would say that out loud in real life. Like, what do you say? Well, I hardly know you we're not gonna get together we're not gonna get together he literally was say this in real life oh yes he will I love it yeah it's radical honesty it is radical refreshing mm-hmm so how close to your character do you think you are well I would say, you know, I'm not one usually to... ...reak out if somebody tells me something or something that they've done that even if it's ridiculous, I'm pretty usually even healed about, you know,

and I'll listen to what you have to say. So I think in that sense I'm pretty close to Cheryl David, but I mean it was very hard to keep a straight face with some of the things that happened and people would say that, you know, in real life would really make me laugh. Who's one of your favorite characters that's like someone that we wouldn't expect on the show? I had so much fun when Sherry O'Terry was on, the second time I've said Sherry O'Terry. But she was this...

She was crazy. Which one is she? Oh, she was... Oh, well, she was a guest star. So we've had a lot of guest stars. Okay, so she's a guest. She played herself though, yeah? No?

I think she played a character, which was also kind of odd. Because sometimes you have celebrities that were playing. They're playing just themselves. Yes. And then you have like Vince Vaughan on who's playing a character. So it's... He mixes it up. Yeah, he mixes it up.

It's like you just don't know what you're going to get kind of. No, you never know what you're going to get. So as the show went on and it gained so much popularity, were you shocked or did you believe that it was going to be successful from the beginning? Well, no. I mean, the first time I, the first day I shot, I was driving home thinking, I have no idea what kind of show this is going to be. I just stood in a kitchen and talked to Larry about apples. And I don't know who's going to get this. And everybody got it. Everyone got it.

Yeah, everyone got it. Although, no, people- Everyone gets it because it's like, I think it's- No, she's going to say people don everybody got it. Everyone got it. Although, no. Everyone gets it because it's like, I think it's- No, she's going to say people don't get it. Well, like my mom. Oh, your mom doesn't get it. Nuh-uh. She's like, I don't think it's funny. It's like, okay, well, I don't know if it was meant for you.

Well, you know, it's like, what I think is so funny about it, again, is what I said. It's the human experience that people aren't willing to be honest about. Yeah. You know? It's the thing everybody wants to say but doesn't say out loud because of social norms. Well, Michael and I feel like we get in curve situations, which I'm sure a lot of people listening feel like that too, and we'll always just put the soundtrack on really quietly whenever we get into one.

When something happens and you're just like, this is what we call such a curve situation, where it's like... It's so absurd. And we play the music, we feel like, or sometimes we won't say anything and you're just like, this is like, we slowly call it such a curved situation. We're just like... -♪ Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, was trying to depress her. And there was like a, oh, I was just going to maybe hear it. There was a girl that we knew, and she was like hanging over the glass. You know, sometimes there's a divider in the restaurants. And Norma's like, OK, just say hello. Right.

But she finished like her whole thing. Just watching. Over our food. And didn't come and sit down. Like a spit, like came in our drink, our margarita. So I remember eating the thing, like looking at Norm Lauren, but then like going like this the whole time. Does everyone do this to you and tell you their curvy situation?

A lot of times, a lot of times. But you know, it is funny, because I found myself in a situation, I was in a department store, minding my own business in a lady's room. And this older lady came out and she had like a long piece of toilet paper hanging out of her pants and I said, excuse me I just want to let you know, you know, you've got some

toilet paper and she said, oh can you get it? Oh my god. And I was like, oh no, I can't. So what'd you do? You didn't get it? I didn't get it. It's dirty. Who knows if it was up her ass, was it on a shoe? But then my friend was like, said, oh, that was so rude of you. You should have just made toilet paper mittens.

Oh! And I was like, that's not rude either. I'll grab it with a giant water- It's almost like an absurd question to even put someone in the position. My big thing in life, and I say this all the time, is like, I hate when people put me in the position where I have to be like- The asshole. The asshole. Because I will be, and I don't want to be-

That's very Larry David of you though. But I will be- If you have to. If I have to, because I think there's like a thing called self-awareness that a lot of people are just, sometimes I look at them like, how are you not aware that this is putting someone in a very awkward position?

I kinda like it though, cause it keeps life interesting. Like it's not boring. Like the toilet paper, we're telling the story now, you're telling it, so it's like, it's definitely not boring. She was not a boring lady. Right, she's not a boring. In that moment.

And sometimes it's so crazy that you just can't even believe it's happening. I kind of love it. So to switch gears, like I said, we're fans of the show. We watch every episode for a long time. We've been together for a long time. 100 years. And I'm somebody that I'm like blinders on.

I'm not like paying attention. I don't really realize what's going on. And then this whole political season kicks up. And I see you with your now husband. And it really tripped me out because I knew you as an actress. And as much as I'd like to say I follow everybody's personal life, I have no idea.

And so I was like, in one world, and Lord, don't make fun of me, I'm on X or Twitter. And I'm following all this stuff. And in the other world, I'm watching my shows. And I'm like, this I follow everybody's personal life. I had no idea. And so I was like, in one world, and Lord, don't make fun of me. I'm on X or Twitter and I'm following all this stuff. And then the other world, I'm watching my shows. And I'm like, this was like a moment where everything collided. You were like, what is happening? It discombobulated me. It took me a second to understand what was going on.

I need to get the lay of the land first. Are you married at this point in Curb? Or you said you have a 21 year old. How many? A 20 year old, yes. 28? 20. 20, okay. How many kids do you have? 21-year-old. How many? A 20-year-old, yes. 28? 20. 20, okay.

How many kids do you have? Well, now I have seven. Yeah, now you have a lot. I have my daughter and I have my stepkids. Okay, so at this point though, you have one. And when you're doing Curb. Well, when I started Curb, I didn't have any. God, that's how long the show's been on?

Oh my gosh, it just ended. How many years? Yeah, we started watching it in high school. 24 years. That is so crazy. It is crazy. Is that the longest show that's ever been on television? I don't know. Maybe.

But we took... There was one time when there were, I think, four years in between seasons. It's gotta be one of the longest shows that have these... Yes. It's gotta be. Maybe not longest shows that have these, maybe not continuously. So you had your daughter when you were doing the show? Yes. Okay, and so you were not with Robert at this point?

No. Okay, so when did you meet Robert? I don't even know what year it was, but Larry and Bobby are friends, and I went to... Still? Yes, still. Although there's a lot of political backdrop happening,

but I went to a waterkeeper fundraiser with Larry and I met Bobby and I just met him and it was nice and he was nice but nothing showed up on my radar. He's you know a nice person and lived in New York and years later I got divorced and he was getting divorced and I saw him and I don't know. Like, sparks, sparks. Yeah, sparks. Did he have sparks to you too?

Was it? Yeah. Sparks. Yeah, which is really strange. Why? Well, because if you know somebody for years and there weren't sparks before. Well, maybe you were married, you just had like a blocker on and you weren't just lucky. Well, maybe you were married,

you just had like a blocker on and you weren't- Well, sometimes you just think some things that you don't even think about something because it's not possible. You just don't even think it's a possibility. So like kind of just it goes over. No, I think that's right. So yeah, you're just looking at everybody like,

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And he's funny. I mean, a lot of people don't get to see the funny side because he's always talking about very serious things, but he's very funny. And yeah, I mean, it was, I don't know, just sort of exciting. I'll say exciting because he was coming from this completely different world than I've been living in. Is that an intimidating world to step into? Just that background and that family? The Kennedy background?

Yeah, I mean, we've had people that are in that family on the show, and I always wonder because... It's not like the typical American family. Like, that is like the American family. It's kind of an intense thing. I think it probably would have been intimidating if... I had met him in a different time in my life, but when I met him, I was an established actor and I come from a big, crazy family. And I don't know, it didn't't seem I wasn't intimidated by it and

maybe because I'm not in politics probably if I was maybe in that world it might have been more intimidating I don't know that's how I would feel if I were you like I just don't know enough about it I know I'm not on X every single day like scrolling that I scrolling, I just don't. Doom scrolling? I don't look at it as doom scrolling, I look at it as like there's just a lot of exciting stuff. Michael's very, yeah, he's interested in all that.

Well, you know, I'm very excited about your husband and I've been public about it because I, we talk about on this show all the time, just health in general, we have two young kids and I've been vocal and said like, I think it should be bipartisan that everybody cares about the health of the car. I mean, we spend time... How is it not?

It's crazy. I mean, we spend some time in Europe. And I say, I go over there and we eat whatever we want gluttonously and have all wine and all this stuff and come back and feel great. Holly's over there. She lives in Europe. And I come here and if I eat like that, like, I'm done. Like, I... And there's a problem. And so, I... Lauren's like, you're doom-scrolling. I'm like like that, I'm done. Right. And there's a problem.

And so, Lauren's like, you're doom scrolling. I'm like, no, I'm excited because I think this is the first time in a while that this is becoming, shows like this would be put on the fringe, like, oh, why are you guys talking about raw milk and these topics and all this stuff? And where's the more people should be talking about that? Yeah, I agree.

And it's funny, even when I was driving over here, I was thinking about all of this. And I was thinking about exactly what you're saying, how maybe before people might be criticized for being a health nut. Yeah, or like conspiracy. I mean, we've, we've gotten labeled I'm sure, at times, like people like fringe people that are talking about the I mean, the Wall Street Journal literally did a whole piece on Lauren about like raw milk. I'm like, this is people drink raw milk for thousands of dollars. It was just called milk back then. Right. Right. Which is

it is hard to understand why people aren't just excited to make changes and to, you're right because in Europe they have rules and laws about things that they do not put in their foods that America, for whatever reason, doesn't have. And they put a lot of stuff in our food that probably does not need to be in our food. So at what point does he switch over from wanting to run to run for president to this role? Which by the way just I don't know a lot about politics but this role is almost to me just as impactful as Resident. It's like yes it's very very

important. It is very important. So yes Bobby started out running for president as a Democrat and then the Democrats. Were you excited about that when that happened or were you like oh god. I wouldn't. I was wondering. I don't know if that's the right word. I was wondering I was thinking about you during all of that again because I was a fan and I was wondering. I don't know if that's the right word. I was wondering, I was thinking about you doing all of that again, because I was a fan and I was like, oh, this must be a trip because I, I mean, that politics is in this country

in particular is a, I always wonder, I'm like, the people that go into that, like that there, it's a lot to go into. It's a lot. And they're like Teflon, these politicians. I mean, it is fascinating to see, you know, things that they say about each other and then the next day they're working together and you know, I'm more sensitive where

I would still be thinking, oh my God, I can't believe you said that yesterday. But they are, it can be very vicious. I was, I can't say that I was excited about it because I also knew enough to know that there would be a lot of scrutiny, there would be a lot of attacks. Did you worry ever about personal safety during all that time?

Oh my gosh, yes. Not just for him, but for you too. attacks. Did you worry ever about personal safety during all that time? Oh my gosh, yes. Not just for him, but for you too. Well, I was going live on Instagram with a friend of mine from high school who was living in Florida. And we were talking about baking, and we were talking about candles. We were having a lovely time, and I was in my office office and my office has, you know, windows. And I'm looking out my backyard and this guy is just walking from the backyard towards the house and I, and she said, are you okay?

And I said, something's happening. Something's happening. I didn't want to panic. I was just like. Something's happening. Something's happening. I didn't want to panic. I was just like, and she said, okay, do you need to go? I said, yes, I think I need to wrap it up. And then I saw our security guy approaching him and I'm watching this all.

And then he apprehends him. My friend said, is everything okay? And I said, you know what, it's okay, it's okay now. And then somebody in the living room said, somebody call 911. I was like, okay, let's wrap it up, let's wrap it up. Oh my gosh, you're talking about baking and candles. Yes, so that's why these worlds coming together are just,

they're not worlds that usually come together. But he's probably comfortable with it because he's been around it with all of his family. So it's probably like a second nature to him. This is probably just like par for the course. Yes, and he... For whatever reason, he's unafraid of almost everything. I don't know what he's, I can't even tell you one thing he's afraid of.

I mean, he catches rattlesnakes. What? You should say this about me. You don't catch rattlesnakes? How does he find rattlesnakes? Oh, they're in the canyon, they're on hiking trails. He hikes every day. Yes, and then he catches-

Grab a snake by the head and- Yeah, the head and the tail. This is what he does. You've seen him pick up a rattlesnake. Listen. I'm sure he... I'm sure there's a video out there of him. There are videos of him picking up rattlesnakes. He knows... Yeah, I have seen him because there was one in our driveway. Lauren, would you be more attracted to me if I was just picking up more snakes?

Maybe I... No, what I think... Is that hot or... What I think is so great about him is he's talking about all these topics that no one wants to talk about, but we're all talking about behind closed doors. And we all have questions as mothers,

with the health of our children, with what we're putting in our own body. I mentioned to you, like, I'm crazy with how I run my environment, even when I'm in a hotel room. Like, we're all talking about this stuff behind closed doors. And he's someone who's brave enough to go out there and ask questions and put himself out there.

And it's like, when you put yourself out there, you're not going to get it right every single time, but that he's just evolved and had momentum within that, without worrying what anyone sort of thinks of him. That's what I get. Well, the thing that drives me... Yes, that is true. Yeah, it's cool.

He's not concerned with what people think of him. What drives me crazy about this country in particular is that everyone is aware that we have a health issue in the country, which is why we had such a rough time with COVID and many other things. And you could see fertility rates and hormone levels in kids and obesity and all these things. So we're all on the same page there, but then these things get politicized. And because they get politicized, people shut down conversations that we should be having.

Right. That drives me nuts. Like I don't, I really don't care left, right, liberal, conservative, Republican, Democrat. I just want to be able to talk about things that are clearly affecting everybody without the bias. Right. Without being labeled as whatever that label might be.

Yeah, it's really hard to get to the root of something. If any time you bring up an idea, someone labels you something and then just shuts down the conversation. I mean, there was a graph the other day that came out, and I don't know if this is exact, but it's like in 1986, there's like three or four vaccines for children under five, and then you look now and there's like 75. If you're gonna tell me that I can't ask questions about that as a mother of two children, I don't know what to say.

I have questions. Right. It is odd to me that people would criticize or shut down parents or mothers who are are want to know more. They want to know what what's in things. They want to know if this is necessary. Is this healthy? What am I doing? I mean listen when you know when you're pregnant there's just you're not supposed to drink caffeine. You're not supposed to eat tuna fish. There's so many things that you're not supposed to do caffeine, you're not supposed to eat tuna fish, there's so many things that you're not supposed to do.

And so then when somebody tells you, but you should get this, take this shot or whatever that looks like while you're pregnant, that to me was... Wild. Yeah. And we criticize somebody who wants to ask about it. And not only that, and I don't know

if this was your experience, I wasn't just criticized. I was like, almost gaslit. Like, you're not gonna, like shamed. And then bringing the baby in after, you know, when they're so little and so perfect and sweet, and then you start asking questions there and you're like, you're gaslit too there. And it's almost like a weird thing.

There's an element of being taken advantage of when you're in your weakened state of postpartum. It's very interesting to reflect on years later. And listen, I just think like we have to get to a place where we're able to ask these questions. It's like a no brainer. Well, what I was, my dad's a little older now and what I was telling him, because he was, you know, just wondering about all this stuff, what we talk about,

and I was like, I'll just take a different topic. I was like, the school curriculum that I had and that he had is probably closer than what my kids now have. And the vaccine schedule that I had and that he had is closer than what my children have. And I was trying to explain, because he's looking at it from the perspective of like, oh, I had these and I'm fine. I'm like, yeah, but it's, you had five or six. And others like, and I'm trying to explain. And when I said, like, now you have grandkids and this is the exercise,

he's like now scratching his head as an older guy saying, well, why does that need to happen? And that's the point is like a lot of people just, I think a lot of the generations like, well, I had it and everything's fine. I'm like, yeah, but it's not the same. Even the food supply is not the same. Even the food supply is not the same. The school curriculum is not.

A lot of these things have just changed in the last couple of decades. So the people that went through either the school system or some of the medical system, what they got is what we got, but it's not what our children are getting. What has your experience been like in the last year from your perspective only? Like, what would you, when you talk to your daughter,

when she's older, when you, I don't know, if you ever write a book, what has your experience been like? Because it's been a crazy year, I'm sure. You're like, let me pull out my scroll. Yeah, where do I begin? Well, it's been emotional a lot of times for me. I'm an emotional person, but even like you're talking about friends,

people who don't wanna have, they don't even wanna have a conversation about something, whatever that is, the things that we've been talking about. That's been hard because some people I I Don't talk to as much. Do you have that conversation ahead of time with your husband and in? Are you aware that this is like a potential outcome? Yes, yes and then and then you know you have to really step back and say, okay, what are these friendships?

And what you would hope is that you would have a friend who's a friend no matter what. And I do. I do have those friends. And then you have to say, okay, well, if this is separating us, you know, me and my friend, then maybe what was the friendship to begin with? But it's hard because it does happen all at once. I mean, people were angry when Bobby even said he was gonna run against Biden. So angry and people saying you know Biden's amazing he's great he's you know until he wasn't and then everybody turned and it you know so so You never know what and and that that you know Bobby might be part of the conversation of the news that's gonna break all of it right so it's Biden and Harris and then Trump and then you know Trump was shot and

that was you know it's, you just don't know what's gonna happen next and it's... And I used to see these things from a different lens, right? Where it's like, well, the, those people... Like that's a different world. Yeah, a different world. You see it from the lens that we see it from. Right, you're scrolling and you're like, whoa.

Yeah, more relaxed than just cruising around. Yeah. It's not directly. Right. As much as people would like to believe that all these things are directly impacting their life, a lot of times are much further removed than we care to admit. Yeah. So when things are unfolding like that

and you're in the middle of it, I mean, it's interesting. And then yeah, then Bobby did get secret service after the Trump assassination attempt. We ran into him actually right before that because we have a mutual friend, Dennis, who fixes my neck, my neck. And he was there. And I think we had you guys scheduled. I know. And then, and then everything.

Well, he had some other things going on like, you know, you and then and then everything. Well he had some other things going on like you know you know endorsing Trump but I remember when that happened I still have a little button he gave me but we and but I remember at the time I was like okay there was some security but it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't that security. Yeah so at some point we had yeah yeah, secret service. And then it's just, you know, it's a motorcade. You know, you're, you're riding in a car with police cars and motorcycles, you know, police motorcycle cyclists. And there are lots of code words.

Everybody has a code name. It makes for, oh, you know, can you just pull in the CBS? I? Need to get some throat lozenges or something and then they come in with you and they're looking around and they have to you know or you go to a hotel and you they have to clear the room and so there's It's it can be a lot But also also, never dull. Very interesting.

Was it exciting when everything came to fruition and it was announced? Was that exciting for you? Or is that like another like lily pad that you're like, hold on, I have to just get my bearings? No, at every, all of those big moments, I had to get my bearings. Cause I because because

Bobby has been working so hard for so long on all of these issues that are really important and for him to be able to have a voice in an administration would be an administration would be so important. So, and at the same time, you're still talking about politics and people are mean, people are vicious, people are angry, people are, you know, and for all of those people,

there are 10 people who are nice and supportive and really have been so kind and nice to Bobby, but also to me, so... Yeah, we have, like, political correspondents and hosts on the showtime, and I always say at the end, like, are you guys, like, you do this, and then you get back, and after, is it, like, good game? That was... It's kind of like a little...

Like, there's some people that really don't like each other, but the large majority that come on, so, like, yeah, it's like, they're doing their thing, we're doing our thing, and at the end of the day, it's professional. I imagine though, for you, what's so crazy is it's not like with acting or with what we do where you could call a colleague

and ask for advice on this. It's a very unique... Right. Yes, world. It's your own specific point of view and it's like how do you even get advice or talk about it to someone that really can't even understand right right well I have a best friend and we talk all the time but yeah you have to you have to really paint the picture

of what's happening, because how could anybody know what it feels like to be in the Secret Service motorcade when you, you know. Well, that's why I wanna ask you, because I imagine it's just like, it's one of those experiences that's like almost, you can't quite describe it unless you've done it. Right, right. You know, the first time I was walking with the security team, it did feel like

a scene from a movie. You know, we're walking through, you walk through all the back hallways of hotels and restaurants and suddenly they open a door and all the people are in there already, you know, whatever it is, if it's a reception, a party, or if you're at a restaurant, they open a door and they'll say, this is your booth, you know, and then you think, where are we? How did we get here? Do people come up to your table or are they respectful? get here and people come up to your table or are they respectful people come up to our table a lot um people really love bobby and they're looking at what you guys are eating that's the first thing i would do i'd be like what are they eating no i just told bobby i said you are never going to be able to eat no that's the first thing i'm looking i'm not looking at his face i want to know what he's eating i really liked when they just went on the Trump plane and then there was a McDonald's and you see his face.

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that you guys do together? Because you guys are going to be like this on this pedestal for health and wellness. Is this something that you've also been passionate about or you just thrown into this role? Like have you? Well, I would say that I like to think I lead a pretty healthy lifestyle. So it wasn't like I was eating at McDonald's every day and then suddenly it's like, oh

boy, I got to pull it back. But Bobby is much more, I'll say, active than me. I like Pilates, I like yoga, I like if I do a little dance class. And I, you know, I work out when I want, when I feel like it. And he, every morning, is going hiking, goes to the gym every day. And he is, and he loves all of the sauna, the cold plunge, which by the way, I don't want to be that uncomfortable. I don't want to sit in a cold tub.

I think you'd like the cold if you did. Lauren likes the cold. You do? Did you like it from the beginning? I love it. Have you tried it before? I love it. I just dip my finger in and I think I'm not in the mood.

I think I have maybe a little bit of a addiction going on. I like, I could sit in there for like four minutes. She can do it longer than me for sure. And what do you like about it? It does something for my nervous system, where it's, to me, it's very mental. So I feel like it's the hardest thing I'm gonna do all day. And if I do that, I can get through anything. It clears the windshield wipers for me.

And the pain is so intense that when you get to the other side, it's really worth it. It clears the windshield wipers for me and the pain is so intense that when you get to the other side it's really worth it. It's kind of like a drug a little bit I guess. Wow. I love it. Does it release endorphins? Sure. Yeah. I love it. That's like eating hot sauce. I'll just eat hot sauce. Okay yeah. Because you get endorphins from it. I can't do that. And it's painful. Oh, you can't do that? I can't do that. What can you do? No.

Well, I can do dead things. Uh-oh. But I went to Thailand with her one time, and I, again, I was trying to, like, take her out to these, and I was just sweating the whole time. I just, she was just, like, eating everything. I like, I'm intense. It sounds like it. Yeah, I like intense things.

So I relate to him with his cold-punge sauna. It shakes it up. Yeah, but if you... She's got a little bit of like, I don't know what's going on with her. She has to take everything to the max. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's how Bobby is. Yeah, I think there's always got to be one. One in the group. If two are in the group, it's trouble. Yeah, like if we were both that and then it was, we're competing with each other.

And you're both there jumping off cliffs and she... But that's, I wanted to say this when you brought up some of your friends, I wanted to say to you, like, the ones that have stopped being your friend or moved away or whatever they've done, how boring is it to sit at a table with everyone that you agree with? I know. This is what I don't understand. Just because Sally thinks this doesn't mean Susie can't think that,

and you can still be friends. I wish that we got to a point like that. Like I just don't, I don't, I want to, I always say this, want to sit at a dinner table with all these different colorful people who have different opinions and can talk about it and like, let's, let's converse about it. It doesn't have to be so. It doesn't have to be an argument. It doesn't have to be, oh, you have to think my way or you're an idiot I mean by the way that's fun I think that way the one thing to that I agree I mean listen we all engage in this world and quote-unquote Hollywood and the one thing that drives me nuts is there's also the certain friends and certain people that are Super supportive about what you're doing, but won't vocalize it or say it because they know

I mean like yeah even this show not at the scale that the platform that you guys have built what you're doing but won't vocalize it or say it because they don't even just show not at the scale that the platform that you guys have built but there's certain people that will love some of the things but I can never tell people that I like thanks for letting me know but it'd be a lot more helpful if you were just like saying that it's okay I'm sure you've experienced that with well yeah and especially in this town this town you know in Los Angeles, it's, people are very passionate about their political beliefs. And I hadn't noticed, but a lot of people have come up to me privately

and will say, I love what your husband's doing, you know, and they'll, but they don't, you know, they don't want to say it out loud. And that's okay too, you don't't have to but it is kind of like you're saying it's disappointing that people can't just talk. Well I think part of the problem and it's just in this world in general is that and I've said this for so many years on this show is like we've gotten to a place where people are scared to vocalize what they think and how they feel they're scared to ask questions

they're scared to stand out and be different and I think like what's really important to us doing this is we're not scared to do that and not either scared to look stupid or say something that maybe people disagree with because I think you need people doing this yeah and being outspoken in order to let other other people know it's okay and to get them because. Because the problem is like these conversations are all taking place behind closed doors anyway. I don't think the election changed a lot of a people's opinion. I mean maybe it did. This one maybe in particular. But I think there was a lot of people that thought a certain way going into it and just were

quiet about it. And the whole thing is like you're not gonna get to the root of good ideas unless people are willing to share those ideas. Right. Right. You know? I agree. And I do think, and maybe I'm wrong, but it does feel like there's a shift happening, at least with the idea that, yes, we're an unhealthy nation and we have an obesity problem, we have an obesity problem. We have issues. And I think a lot of people are joining that movement, if you will, saying, yeah, something's

not right. How can we do things better? How can we eat better? Which is hard. It's hard for a lot of people to even find fresh, healthy food. But in a civilized, evolved country, it shouldn't be like laser-tied trying to figure out

which bread you can eat. No, you're right. Or which pasta's okay. Cheryl, I have a prediction. Okay. I think in five years, Oh gosh. you're gonna receive so many apologies.

Maybe less. Wow. Oh my gosh. Can're going to receive so many apologies. Hmm. Maybe less. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Can we come back here and- Yeah, come back. I think you're going to say 75% of the people have apologized because I think people are so reactive right now and so frenetic that they can't even think logically. Yeah.

And once they start to think logically, hopefully that they will come around and see like it's about the health. Yeah. And they'll- And how can that be bad? And they'll apologize. So all you should do is just wait in your house on your Instagram live with your candle.

And just- With my candle. Okay. Use my candle. Let I need is my candle. Let's talk about your line, which is so, to me, synergistic with what Bobby's doing. Tell us about why you decided to create this with your daughter. Well, I started this company, Heinz & Young, with my daughter, Katherine Young, who she was at the time getting ready to graduate from high school, and I was so sad about the idea of her leaving.

So I thought, well, how can I keep her close? And I asked her if she wanted to start a company, and she said, sure. I'm going to literally copy you and do that with my daughter. And we both really love the beach, and we really wanted to move away from plastics. So you probably know that the cosmetic industry and every industry is just a lot of plastics and a lot of single-use plastics. So we thought why can't we make a really

clean product and do it in a cute way that doesn't use single single-use plastics. So, so we did. And then we, you know, we we had a lot of fun coming up with the fragrances because they were they're based on different beaches that we love. Key West Sunset, so the candle that we have, see, it's supposed to smell like vacation. Maybe that's why I've been so relaxed on this episode. It's a beautiful candle. And you know what, I was telling you off air, I'm so sensitive with my nose

and I got to smell everything and everything smells, this is so weird, it smells easy on the nervous system. Yeah. It doesn't feel overwhelming. You have this beautiful body cream that I'm going to try on my son. I also was wondering if I can use this on maybe his, like, diaper.

Do you think I can use it on his butt? I do, because you can look up the ingredients and see. It looks amazing. Yeah, it's all really clean stuff. And the number one ingredient in our Ultra Luxe Body Cream is organic aloe. It smells so good. I have it on my hands right now. And doesn't it feel good?

It's beautiful. And it also like makes your hands look younger. I know that's weird, but the candle smells absolutely beautiful. If they were to start with one product from your line, I would say the Ultra Body Luxe Cream just because it's amazing. What would you pick? What's Bobby's favorite? Bobby uses the Ultra Luxe Body Cream unscented on his face. Have you gifted this to Trump? No, I haven't.

You know what? This would be a good gift for Trump. Nice little face cream. Well, because, you know, I don't think he has a skincare routine. I think this would be nice for him. What if he takes it the wrong way? You know what I was excited about? I was hoping that this new administration would, I've heard rumors that they might open it up to podcasts and then Lauren can go there and ask all the guys what their skincare routines are. Instead of getting to the

root of what's going on, they say, excuse me Mr. President, what is your two step? I want to interview everyone on the chessboard there. I have a different perspective and different questions. I also think all these guys are going on all of these big named men podcasts. We have a woman-based audience. No offense, Michael. Sorry, I hate to break it to you. I like talking to women. It would be interesting to get these guys on the mic and for me to be able to be like, well, don't you think it would have been an even bigger landslide if these guys had a

good skincare routine, they would have presented much clearer and cleaner. And people could really look at them. That's who's going to win the next election. Whoever's got the best skincare routine. The best skin. Yeah, the best. If you guys want the linen spray that Cheryl, Larry, David, and Bobby Kennedy are using on their pillow, you should go shop Heinz & Jann Capri Honeymoon Spray, which is absolutely

beautiful. I'm going to spray it on my pillow tonight. Yeah. You have to shake it because there's no preservative. Natural. Yeah, trust me. I love our candles. There's a big ceramic candle. I don't know why my assistant didn't put it in there.

But I have sort of trained myself at the end of the day, because I have a hard time sleeping. I have a hard time turning everything off. I can imagine a lot. So there's something about actually having a candle, striking a match, lighting the candle, that tells me, okay. And also when you have one that has no hormone disruptors. Yes. Because I just learned that there is so much formaldehyde in most wicks. Right.

These are cotton wicks, just so you know. That's the best. But yes and and you can you can smell something when there are so many chemicals that you you don't even know but I'm like you I have that. You're sensitive. Yeah I would rather not light a candle that's. I'm the same way everyone thinks I'm crazy. And like air fresheners that you plug in or something? One time we rented a house. This was my worst nightmare. First of all, you're never allowed to rent a house

unless I'm involved ever again. He rented a house for like a month in San Diego and we walked in and I swear to God, in every single plug in the entire house, I'd say there was probably 80. No, no, there was- Was a Febreze. There was a Glade or something plug-in.

Lilac Glade plug-in. It was in every room. I couldn't breathe. We had a giant trash bag of the plug-ins and we, I'm not kidding, it was like the whole thing. Oh my gosh. And it's so weird, you take it out of the house and immediately you can feel a difference.

It is so weird. Yeah. Yes. You gotta get your candles. Well, you know, we had our friend... The one that we're burning right now is the Key West sunset, by the way, and she's right, it does smell like vacation. Our friend Cher Veeam came on the show and we were talking about just scents in general

with all these like plugins and things. And it's like, well, why are we trying so hard as a population to mask these smells? What is smell? Like what's the problem? We should get to the root of whatever's going on. Bobby's working on it. Bobby's working on it.

Bobby's right. That actually reminds me of an old Seinfeld bit that he used from his stand up where he said, you know, what's, what's the deal, what's the deal with, um, stain sprays, this'll get out a blood from your, from your clothes. And he said, don't, don't you have bigger problems if you have blood on your clothes? But then it reminds me of that. It's like, let's, let's get to the root.

Michael's never experienced blood on his clothes, like a girl. I've experienced blood on my clothes, but for different reasons. All right. Yes. Maybe it was in your kilter. Grabbed a snake wrong. In your kilter, yes. Cheryl, where can everyone shop the products?

The one I like, you guys, again, it's called the Ultra Luxe Body Cream. That's really nice. Well, we have a website, Heinz and Young, and also we're on Amazon. Love it. Yeah. And you guys gave us code skinny for 30% off. Yes. To go shop. Candle, Key West Sunset and Ultralux Body Cream and then the Capri Honey, the Capri Honeymoon Linen Spray.

Those are, those are the ones. Those are your highlights, but they're, but they're all good. And I know I keep saying it, but the unscented is really nice too. If you like unscented. If one likes unscented. I like unscented too, but I don't mind the scented. Oh, I love it. No, the scent is really beautiful. But the unscented is nice too,

if you wonder if one wanted to wear perfume, but I'm getting the vibe that you're not a perfumer. I would wear this, this is weird, as a perfume. That's what I do. I would wear the're not a perfume wearer. I would wear this. This is weird as a perfume. That's what I do. This is what I would wear. The lotion. I don't want to smell stronger.

I always have immediate regret when I put on perfume. Every single time. He puts on perfume. I can't smell anything. Just people overdo it. It's like one far spray away. I actually have a phone to pick about this. Okay, do it.

Oh, she'll just go off now. I actually think it's unself aware, you guys should do a curve on this, to where to, like, I think it's like insulting. It's very presumptuous. I'm gonna smell great and everybody's gonna love it. And you get into an elevator and it's like whoa. And I'm gonna walk in the room

and take over the whole room. Yeah. And it's, let me tell you, especially guys, I don't want to be able to smell you when I'm three feet away. If I'm up in your grill making out with you sure a little neck. You're right.

I don't want to smell you when, like, there's food around. It's too much. Yes. Too much. I agree. I don't wear anything. The only time I will wear something is Michelle Pfeiffer came on it.

She has that hormone. Henry Rose. Henry Rose. And they're like... It's non-toxic. But there's no... she was like one of the first companies to do that in fragrance without any disruptors. She's got some nice stuff. But I've gotten used to just kind of...

I seriously am so bothered by every scent and they smell so good. I'm just raw dogging. Is that what they call it? Raw dogging? I don't know if that's what they call it, but yes, let's say that. Free ballin' it. Nothing. No, no sense. I don't like the kilt. Yeah, exactly.

Wait, you never answered the kilt. I did not wear anything under the kilt, Cheryl. If you need to know. Now you know. Ooh, I see. Now you know. That was not me. Just like... I had the kilt. It was a long enough kilt. I'm not wearing a mini skirt. But because you're not supposed to, right?

No. What am I gonna do? That's kind of weird. I'd have like long boxer shorts. If you came up to me at a party in a kilt, it would have, our whole lives would be different. I don't like to meet women for the first time and lead with, I don't wear underwear in a kilt. Now we've known each other for about an hour. So I can tell you. What else do you want to know? No, I think that's, listen, I think if that's the way

it was intended to be worn, then that's what you have to do. I have some Scottish ancestry, and I felt like I should honor it. If we ever get into politics, I'm sure they'll pull all kinds of things out of your closet. Oh, yeah, that clip will come out. My plan, if I ever get into politics, is to use this show to throw it all out there.

So that when they try to find the dirt, it's like, I've already got all the dirt. There's nothing left. They're gonna pull this clip and be like, we can't have a guy in office that doesn't wear underwear with a kill. I'll be like, well, he already admitted it. You know, it's like, all the, there's nothing left. They're gonna pull this clip and be like, we can't have a guy in office that doesn't wear underwear with a kill. It's like, well, he already admitted it.

You know, it's like, I'm out there. I think that's the problem, right? Get it all out. It's out. I feel like it's super power. Just like throw it all out there. Shop HeinzYoung.com code skinny for 30% off. Where can everyone find you if they have questions,

drop into your DMs, say something positive. I am on Instagram at underscore Cheryl Hines. And you're doing Instagram Lives about baking and candles, which is so sweet and cute. And I love that for you. In between home invasions. In between home invasions, yes. It's amazing.

All right, Cheryl. Thank you. Glad we got to do this. Come back anytime you'd like. Thank you so much. It was so fun. I'm gonna come check in with you guys. Anytime got to do this. Thank you. Thank you so much. It was so fun. I'm going to come check in with you guys.

Anytime you want to come on. After things get started in January. Let's do a little check in and see where we are, what progress has been made. You're welcome to come on. I'll be on X up in real time. Oh my God. Oh my God.