The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Christine Quinn On How To Own Your Narrative, Create Your Future, Be A Boss Bitch, & Selling Sunset

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

#570: Today we're sitting down with Christine Quinn, television star, model, fashion & beauty mogul and author. Christine quickly became one of the most-talked about women on television in 2019 on Netflix’s mega-hit series Selling Sunset and released her first book, How To Be A Boss Bitch, in 2022. Today Christine sits down with us and spills all the tea on Selling Sunset, how there's a strategy for everything in Hollywood, what it's like to play the Villain, and we explore the mystery behind why the Oppenheim brothers have dated multiple SS cast members. She also gets into her experience with producers, her dating life in Hollywood, and how she deals with trolls (even the ones she works with). We also cover everything from the importance of being a self-sufficient woman, to emitting a strong energy that leads you to own every room you enter, and Christine gives our listener's advice on how to achieve unmatched confidence & independence, financial literacy, and manifesting the life of your dreams. To connect with Christine Quinn click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Subscribe to our YouTube channel HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential This episode is brought to you by AG1 AG1 is way more than greens. It's all of your key multi-vitamins, minerals, pre-and probiotics, and more, working together as one. Go to athleticgreens.com/SKINNY to get a free 1 year supply of vitamin D and 5 free travel packs with your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by LMNT LMNT is a tasty electrolyte drink that has everything you need and nothing you don't. It contains a science-backed electrolyte ratio: 1000mg sodium, 200mg potassium, and 60mg magnesium. Get a free sample pack with any purchase at drinkLMNT.com/SKINNY This episode is brought to you by Betterhelp BetterHelp is online therapy that offers video, phone, and even live chat-only therapy sessions. So you don’t have to see anyone on camera if you don’t want to. It's much more affordable than in-person therapy & you can be matched with a therapist in under 48 hours. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/skinny This episode is brought to you by Wella Wella Professionals just released its most luxurious hair care line; Ultimate Repair. You can purchase The Ultimate Repair Miracle Hair Rescue at Ulta stores, or go to wella.com to learn more. This episode is brought to you by Alo Moves Alo Moves has always been inspired by a single goal: to empower people to live healthier, more fulfilled lives. Alo Moves is the streaming on-demand platform with yoga, fitness, and meditation classes. Go to Alomoves.com and get 30 days free & 50% off of your annual membership with code SKINNY Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

So I would say the most important thing is don't have an ego. Confidential. Him and her. Aha! So I would say the most important thing is don't have an ego. I remember in the beginning I took on so many jobs that weren't amazing and luxurious. And people would be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you're doing that. Like, I worked at Walmart. I worked at Taco Bell. Like, I had the most embarrassing jobs. Getting as much work as you can, doing as many odd jobs and things that you can. And then also I think savings is really important.

And a lot of people don't budget properly, but also it's taking chances and starting a podcast, doing things like this that people don't necessarily think of. You might not make money right away, but as long as you keep doing it and have something that you really love, I think that's how you get independence. Today is fun. We're sitting down with Christine Quinn. She is so major, you guys. She is a spitfire. I really enjoyed this interview. She is so interesting.

She walks in, she has this total aura and presence and charisma, but she's also smart as a whip. Christine Quinn is a television star, a reality star, a model, a fashion and beauty mogul, and an author. Christine quickly became the most talked about woman on television, like I'm not even joking you, in 2019 on Netflix mega series, Selling Sunset. She also released her first book, How to Be a Boss Bitch in 2022. And today she sits down and she spills the tea. But she also talks strategy and business and how to give off strong energy, set boundaries, date, tips, tricks, self-sufficiency. We even talk about sugar daddies manifesting her birth story and dealing with trolls. We go all over the place here, but she really gives some tangible tips on just how to be confident in her secrets.

I think you're going to love this episode. On that note, let's welcome Christine Quinn to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. I feel like you have slayed reality television in a different way. You almost like Bethany Frankled it. That's the best compliment ever, by the way. I love her. For our generation. So I want you to take me back to the moment that you knew you were going to be on reality

television and what went through your head. Yeah. Well, obviously, I started out in acting. That's always what I wanted to do. That was my number one passion and love. So I came from a background of acting. So I got to a point in my life where I was doing really, really well for a while. I moved out from Texas. I got a few really big movies and television shows. And then it just wasn't going like I thought it would go. You know, I didn't have consistent income and it was really hard. I had to step up to the plate and say, you know what? I need a real job. I need a real job. So that's when I got into real estate.

So I was in real estate for a few years and then we got approached for a television show. And for me, it was an immediate yes. I was like, guys, we have to do this. We have to do it. And I was really the only one that was super hyped, super excited about it. Everyone was like, I don't know, you know, for business, is this good? And I was just like, I want to have fun and I want to film. And this is exactly what I wanted. So I really pushed for it. Everyone was kind of like, not really sure. So we shot a pilot and then it just took off and the rest was history. So when you get asked to do this, you know you're meant for the screen.

Like you're in. What's going through your head? Like, are you laying bricks before you even get on the show? Like, are you planning what you're going to do when you're on the show? What you're going to do when you get off the show? What your exit's going to be like? Like, is there like a strategy that you had when you approached reality television? The strategy I had was just get through five seasons.

And I look back at all the good shows and I'm like, they had a good, solid five seasons. So that's what I knew I wanted to do. I didn't know if we'd last for that long. I had no idea. But I just knew I had to stick it out for as long as I could. And that was kind of my plan because I never wanted to be a reality star selling real estate forever. That wasn't my main goal.

My main goal was to work on other business ventures and write a book and just be an entrepreneur. So I always knew I wanted to do other things. And this was the perfect platform for me to just have fun and be myself and just be a character. So that was really my goal. When you say character, to me, you sort of played like the villain. Yes. Did you go into it knowing you sort of played like the villain. Yes. Did you go into it knowing you were going to play the villain? 100%. So you knew like you're like, that's the character for me. Yes. And it wasn't just it wasn't just my perception of how I was going to play it. It was also, you know, the producers. They had a certain storyline and they're like, OK, Christine's the crazy, crazy one. She's like wild. She says what she wants. And so,

yeah, it was definitely predetermined. How much pressure is it? This would give me pressure to have to have cute outfits, have glam, have the hair. Like you want everything right. It's on television and you also can't control it like your own social media. Yeah. Is that stressful? It was very stressful. And I remember, but I enjoyed it because I love, I love clothes. I love wardrobe. It's something that I just like eat right up. So for me, every week I would do like a big haul and just buy tons of stuff from Revolve or Nordstrom or whatever it may be and just set it up in a rack in my room and put together outfits.

And we obviously didn't always know exactly what scenes we were filming the next day, but I would say like, okay, if I'm doing an office scene, this is perfect. If I'm doing, you know, a cocktail party, this is perfect. So I would kind of like curate my outfits and then whatever mood I was in or, you know, whatever we were filming that day, I would like pick it up and then. What are you applying from real estate were filming that day, I would like pick it up. And then what are you applying from real estate to the show? Because I feel like there is an element, a similarity with real estate and filming a reality television show. Yeah, I would say, well, it's definitely you have to be good with people in real estate. And so it's kind of the same when you're filming

a show like you have to be really good with people and be able to, you know, maybe de-escalate situations or escalate situations. So I think that's kind of the similarities. How do you know how far to kind of push it? Like, do you have a conversation ahead of time with the other cast? You're just like, listen, I'm going all in and you guys better keep up. We were really good about that in season one and season two, I would say. We knew exactly what we were shooting. We knew exactly what we were talking about. You know, everything was set up for us. And, you know, they would say, say this, push this. We want, you know, to talk about this, this one word. So we knew that and we would have

conversations and say, hey, like, I'm really going to go there. Just you prepared. Yeah, totally cool. And then at the end of the scene, we'd be like, you good? You good? Okay. So it started off really good. I mean, I've never participated in these shows, but I feel like it starts off this way, but then the people start to, like, they get caught up in it. And then it becomes more and more real. And all of a sudden, like, hey, I'm not good with this anymore. But you're like, you're going full bore. Yeah, it's a snowball effect.

Because what happens is we started out really good and then it starts snowballing and you do scenes and then they pull people apart. And then the expectation is the people that you didn't film scenes with, you know, they would call you and say, and I would do this because I had respect for the girls. And I would say, hey, we did a scene about this. I just want you to know because you're going to hear about it. And then, you know, that stopped happening and the calls stopped happening and the communication stopped happening. And that's when I realized, oh my God, these girls are taking this seriously.

They think it's real. And it was so dangerous. Also at the hands of someone who is manipulating behind the scenes as well. Totally. But imagine in like season one and two before the thing really takes off, you don't have the audience feedback as quickly. And then once it's like, once you are this character and the audience is chiming in and you're getting more attention, there's probably some rivalry that starts to actually happen because you're just, the audience is chiming in and saying like, oh, right. Definitely. Yeah. I would say the audience was a big part of it because things that we didn't really see as issues, you know, on Twitter or in the news, we'd be like, oh, I didn't even think of that. Well, okay. Yeah. Now that does make me mad. So that was definitely a factor as well.

And then they start chiming in and like maybe calling other people out. Totally. Yeah. It's a whole thing. Yeah. And you and this show was so famous. I want to say it was like number one on Netflix in like all these different countries. I mean, this is this show is like it was Netflix's biggest show. Yes, definitely. Yeah, it was. How much pressure is that with the audience chiming in after it's been up or do you just shut it out?

Originally, it was really hard. It was really difficult for me because when we started the show, I didn't have social media. I didn't have Facebook. I didn't have Instagram. I was 29 years old. I never had a Facebook or an Instagram. I read that. That's what you said. You never had. No. And you grew your social aggressively. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I started with zero. And I remember when the show came out to my nine followers, I was like, hey, go watch the show. You know, so it was it was a really interesting thing. And so because I didn't have a social media presence or a presence in general, unlike the other girls, you know, who were married to someone who was super rich and famous or with this person or a playmate or whatever, maybe I didn't have that. So it was really, really starting from scratch.

And it was hard because fans would go to my page and they wouldn't know anything about me because I hadn't curated my personality yet. So then that's when it became really hateful and really hard and I was just like gosh I can't believe people are actually taking this you know I just can't believe they're thinking about it like that I can't imagine going out of my my way and my day to send someone like a hateful message that you don't even know so it was really weird but it took time it took time for the audience to be like oh i fuck with her i don't mean to brag but i loved you from the beginning just because there's like a savviness to it all thank you you know what i mean and michael always peripheraling the show i'm always tuning in always always trying to watch what the juicy drama is you always think i'm gonna deny it i'm like i'm gonna deny it like i i got it but i think what people need to realize

if there's no you on a show like that what are we watching and that's the thing too is i think it's getting a little more difficult because so many of the original cast members are no longer there so the ogs i would think are myself and may. So the OGs, I would think, are myself and Maya. And Maya and I, I believe, were the comedic relief. And so Maya's gone. I'm gone. Davina was also a great potster. She's gone.

She's a good potster. You know, so it's like, I don't really know. It's hard because you fall in love with that original cast that you watched. And then when they keep adding people and adding people, it just dilutes it. And then that original thing that you fell in love with during COVID that everyone loved just isn't there anymore. I feel like you're doing it right, though.

You kind of want to exit on a high note like that. Yeah, always leave the party early. Look at Lisa Renna, you know. I mean, she's crushing it now. She did the right thing. And, you know, she came to me and I was so happy she did. She was like, I'm leaving. Like, I wanted to tell you, but also, like, I need help.

I need some information. Like, what should I do? And so I was like, girl, I got you. You're going to crush this. Leave the party early. That's your next book. Totally, yeah. You've got to leave the party early and then you set the bar for the next group.

And it's like, now people are going to be comparing it to what they watched with you totally and basically serena too she's she's really been the pot stirrer on that show for so long i'm a huge fan of that show too and and like without her what i want to see what like what are we watching that's the thing and i'm not going to tune in anymore because I loved her so much and I love Erica too. But it was the combo of the two of them together that were so fierce, you know, and you can't recreate that, you know, so. At what moment did you realize, like, that the tides were turning and all these girls were sort of turning against you and they were kind of trying to almost, it felt like to me as a viewer, trying to like push you out. Oh, a hundred percent. They were trying to push me out. I mean, there's no doubt about that

because I was the only one that pushed back for things. You know, I was the only one that said, guys, this isn't right. Like you should understand, like, you know, this is not in our contract. We don't have to do this. We don't have to put up with this. Like what are those things? Like what kind of things are you pushing back? so many things but even just the way they treated us and the way that they would say you know this is what we're talking about even though in real life we actually had storylines and real things going on they never wanted to cover it they only wanted to cover what they wanted to cover which was those fake storylines so it just became so hard and there was a lot of pushback with the girls

because I was like, guys, you deserve better. Like you can stand up. You can say no. You don't have to go to a scene. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. And that's what they didn't understand. And so I was constantly fighting with them about that. But at the end of the day, it just comes down to, you know, do you value yourself? How do you feel about yourself as an individual, as a whole? If you're not secure in setting boundaries, I can't do that for you and I'm not going to fight with you anymore about that. So that's really, that was the tipping point was there were so many times where I would try to convince the girl, like try to convince them like you're so much better than this. You don't need to be treated this way. Like you don't need to wear

a bra and, you know, this and show your stomach and your boobs. You don't have to do that. You know? And that was a very like, you know, conscious choice for me in the show is I never wore two piece bikinis. And there were so many fights about that. So many fights from producers and production constantly commenting on our bodies and telling us what to wear and it was trying to get you to wear bikinis and revealing clothing absolutely i remember there was one time that i came back from horseback riding because i i go out and jump in burbank and i was wearing an equestrian outfit and they came they asked me to come in for a scene last minute so i was like sure i'll come but this is i'm coming in my equestrian clothes, which is like

tight pants, boots and a polo or whatever. And I remember they got so mad. Oh, they threw a tantrum and a fit. And I was just like, girls, we don't have to put up with this. Like they should be lucky to have us. There is an undertone of misogyny. Misogyny, for sure. What is that? Is it like, is it the creator? Is it the whole entire organization? Like what it feels like it's a man or men telling a lot of women what to wear and do. Absolutely.

I mean, it's the same person that it's Adam DeVello who did The Hills or Laguna, The Hills, I think it was. Don't quote me. I obviously didn't watch it. But with Lauren Conrad. So it was the same guy that did that show. So he's the creator of all the selling Sunsets, selling OCs, selling Tampa, all the same franchises.

So he was the one who was there on set all the time. And he was the one who was you know basically making it hell for everyone is it him or the culture he's created with everyone I think what happens is I think people just realize oh like that's what we have to put up with to get a great show done and so everyone kind of just put up with it, you know? It's so funny because like everyone's like, we've evolved and, but there's still undertones. And you're not the only person that says this too about all different kinds of, you know,

these Hollywood moguls. There's this undertone, like the man is still puppeteering the women. Absolutely. Well, I mean, this with respect to, it's even the two brothers, I don't know them. They're probably nice guys. Maybe they're not either. I don't know. But even the way they set that this with respect to it. It's even the two brothers. I don't know them. They're probably nice guys. Maybe they're not either.

I don't know. But even the way they set that office up, it's like, here's the two brothers and they're in charge of all like this stable of women. I say that respectfully, but that's how the show portrays it. Yeah.

I mean, and I think that was a choice that they made from the get go. And that's actually why we got a show is because every year we used to do a lot of publicity when we were working at the Oppenheim Group. And Jason loved that aspect. He loved being surrounded by women, but women only of a certain type. And that was very intentional, women of a certain type. So

we did a billboard one time and, you know, it was the two of them and then all these, you know, tall blonde girls. And the creator basically said, he's like, I didn't know what this company was. I thought it was an escort agency. Then I realized it was a real estate agency. And he's like, I'm in. And that just says everything about it, you know? When you were single before you met your husband and you're working there, are the brothers like actively hitting on you? On me, no, because I was was really you give off an energy people don't hit on me that's so funny that you said that because my i asked michael the other day about something this guy

was cheating on this girl and i said like where does he think like he can get away with this and michael said there's an energy that men put out too, where it's like. Well, be careful what you say here. Cause everyone's going to attack me. I say, I'll say men and women. There is an energy certain people put out where it's like, don't hit on me or do hit on me. You're absolutely right. And I don't want to, don't read any more into that. Everyone knows what I'm talking about.

Where like, there's certain people that, you know, it has nothing to do with the way they look. I'll bend over on the sink for you. Totally. Men too. There's like a. No, it's a vibe. Totally. Yeah. Men too. There's like a... No, it's a vibe. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a vibe that people put out. Totally. And we as humans can sense that vibe and can sense when someone's open to being hit on and when someone's like, don't even try. Yes. So you're don't even try. I'm don't even try. And which is also why I had a really hard time in that work environment because I was

the one who was always pushing back on things. And he intentionally only hired girls that were very submissive. And that was not on accident. That was very intentional. There's a reason that he's dated, I would say, 90% of the girls that work there. Maybe more. Maybe I don't know of them. But me, Maya, and Davina are the only ones that haven't dated him that I know of.

Is it both guys dating? They're twins, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, is it both guys? Yeah. There's two of them, yeah. No, but I mean, are they guys i get is it yeah okay there's two of them yeah no but i mean are they both date is it just one stating for sure both of them okay

very confusing you it's interesting i used to be a bartender like you did i read about this in your book and i think that even when you're a bartender i remember you have a bunch of men in front of you you're making drinks and you you can't fuck everyone you have a bunch of men in front of you. You're making drinks and you can't fuck everyone. You have to put up that boundary. Do you think that that boundary that you have comes from bartending? I absolutely think it's a huge part. And it's really funny that you said that because, yes, I feel the same way. And it was so many instances where, you know, I was like, this is my safe place. This bar, like you cannot cross, you cannot come past it. And it's so great. But yeah, it's constant advances. And I became real sassy. Like I became

real sassy and real quick because, yeah, I think I was thrown into an environment where men were just like assuming, you know, oh, well, she's a bartender. She must be crazy. She must be wild. She must want me so i act like i totally think it's the environment the bar between you and the men is so interesting and then the restoration hardware table if you watch the show you know what i'm talking about yes of course they have the restoration hardware table you're like do not come between me yes do not come between me and my fucking restoration hardware table bitch do not even touch it yeah i think it was timothy oliphant that did oh is that the chairs those are the chairs what's the

guy's name again uh tiffany olives yeah yeah yeah i think timothy oliphant isn't that the guy that played in just anyway in your book you also write about how you were dating someone who essentially was like paying for everything and you thought you would sort of like it at first and then you were like, this is not for me. Can you talk about that? Absolutely. And the funny thing is, is the thing that people don't know is I actually did meet him at that bar. That's a funny thing. And he was a guy that was actually different. He was really nice and really sweet and really kind. And he was complimenting my personality and not my looks. And that's something that was really refreshing and different.

So that's actually where I met him. And it started out really good. And I always thought, gosh, it would just be so nice to be taken care of, yet still pursue my dream. And, you know, it's what every girl wants, right? But then it started becoming this tool and this carrot that he would constantly dangle over me. And that's when I really realized that I value the most thing in this world that I value is freedom. And I realized

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Like I didn't want anyone else. And if someone that I meet, you know, has money and has their own job and they're independent, that's great. But they need to be okay with me doing my own thing as well. Have you read that book, 48 Laws of Power? Of course I have, Robert Greene. So he's been on the show a few times. What did I tell you?

Hold on. What did I say in the other room before she mentioned i go i guarantee you she's read robert green all of his books he's brilliant right of course um and one of my favorite chapters in that book is and lauren and i talk about all the time is despise the free lunch and i think people don't realize like everything comes at a cost absolutely and being taken care of sounds nice but to your point it comes with the cost and i i have being taken care of sounds nice, but to your point, it comes with a cost. And I have younger sisters, so I was always telling them like, hey, at the end of the day, if you end up with a guy like this and you start getting taken care of,

it's not free. It's not doing it just out of the kindness of his heart. Of course, maybe that is a motivator, but there's always something. There's always some expectation, whether it's, you know, your time, whatever it may be, it's always something, you know? So you're absolutely right. Yeah, I think, I mean, it's everything. It's like, you know, even with what you guys do in the influence,

I always just say like, don't do things where someone's giving you something for free because it sounds like you're getting a bargain, but it's going to cost you something. You're so right. I want to pay full price for everything. Like charge me out the ass. Michael, I know.

Because listen, I either can't afford it or if I can, I just want to pay for it and be like, that was the transaction. I don't want to come back and be like- I don't want to pay a death tax on this later down the road, okay? 100%. Despite the free lunch,

we should make like cute pink t-shirts. No, I mean- I feel another line coming up. I mean, it's a good one. There's no such thing as the free lunch we should make like cute pink t-shirts no I mean I feel another I feel another line coming I mean it's good there's no such thing as a free life there's no such thing so so if someone's listening and they want to support themselves you're obviously very entrepreneurial what tactics and tips would you give them if they don't even know where to start tactics and tips for trying to be self-sufficient, basically? Yes. And say they're a bartender. They're working in a service industry job. They want to break out. They want to start their own thing. It could even be real estate.

Yeah. Well, I would say the most important thing that I realized over the years is don't have an ego. And that was something that I had later down the line. But that was a whole other thing. But when it comes to jobs, don't have an ego. Because the second that you have an ego. So I would say the most important thing is don't have an ego. Because if you really want to be self-sufficient. I remember in the beginning, I took on so many jobs that weren't amazing and luxurious. And people would be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you're doing that.

Like I worked at Walmart. I worked at Taco Bell. Like I had the most embarrassing jobs, you know, like people in LA say, oh, I'm a cater waiter. I'm like, oh, that's so fancy compared to the stuff that I did. It's just getting as much work as you can, doing as many odd jobs and things that you can.

And then also I think savings is really important. A lot of people don't budget properly. And I also I think savings is really important. And a lot of people don't budget properly. And I think that's the thing that we don't understand. And so I started, you know, writing a journal of all of my expenses, all of my income, and obviously that fluctuated. But then I kind of had to decide like later, okay, can I buy this? Can I not buy this? But also it's taking chances and, you know, starting a podcast, doing I buy this? Can I not buy this? But also it's taking chances and starting a podcast, doing things like this that people don't necessarily think of. You might not make money right away, but as long as you keep doing it and have something that you really love,

I think that's how you get independence. Yeah. I think you're interesting because, well, for multiple reasons, but because you kind of came on the scene. No, no. I'm going to say because you kind of came out of nowhere without a social presence. And people didn't know. And all of a sudden you're on television. And I don't think they understand that you've worked. My whole life. Yes.

I was also going to say, I thought you were going to say that the way you look, you've used to your advantage because people are automatically going to stereotype you. Oh, absolutely. And so what you've done is not only, I mean, you look beautiful, but you're also very smart to stereotype you. Oh, absolutely. And so what you've done is not only, I mean, you look beautiful, but you're also very smart. Thank you. And I want-

You're not getting through Robert Greene books if you're a dodo bird. I don't want- Those books are thick, by the way. Christine to leave without you guys talking finances because she talks about this in the book and you're very, very savvy with your finances. Yes.

Can you talk about that more? I mean, everyone's different, but for me, I kind of had to figure out, okay, you know, what's important to me. And I, obviously you have your bottom line of how much money you have as a whole. And for me, I realized I was going to go all in on the stock market, like absolutely all in. So that's what I did. It's a horrifying thing to do, but I budgeted it that way. And then I kind of take every paycheck and, you know, whatever I get at the end, I'll keep 20% and the rest goes into savings. 30%, depending on the month and what my expenses are, you know, the rest will go into

savings. 40%, whatever you can do. So you're saving first. 100%. And even if it's 10%, it just has to be consistent, has to be something consistent. And I'm not saying everyone go to TD Ameritrade or whatever, or not everyone has access to a Goldman Sachs, whatever it can be. I saw that Apple just came out the other day recently with something that they have a savings account with 4.14% interest. Absolutely. So, I mean, that grows, and the stock market on average grows 9% annually, minimum. So, I mean, that grows, you know, and the stock market on average grows 9% annually minimum. So, I mean, just think about the amount of savings that you can get, even if it's just doesn't have to be like, it doesn't have to be a huge amount. It just has to be consistent.

You just make to have to make a habit of it. What I do here now, I'm working with a lot of women like yourself or Lauren and talent that's making money. And maybe it's the first time they've made a lot of money, right? And they've changed their lives, whatever. But I see a lot of people coming through these doors and not just at Dear Media, but in other places. And it's kind of like the money spigot's turned on, but there's no thought to like, I'm going to save or I'm going to invest. It's just like, they think it's going to last forever. And we've kind of seen these up and down cycles for, you know, you know, 12, 15 years doing this. And it's like, you see a lot of people get washed out and you also see a lot of people make it really big and then stop. Right. And I always, I always feel bad, like, man, if they would have just set a little bit aside during that time,

they'd be fine. But people just, they don't think about it. They think it's the money's just going to last forever. And they never think about, oh, I'm going to set aside some for a rainy day. You're absolutely right. And, you know, I come from Texas. So my paychecks were completely different than they are in California, obviously. You know, it's very, very different. I remember coming out here and I was like, whoa, this is crazy. I mean, you get half of the amount of money you were supposed to get because of taxes,

obviously. I think a lot of people don't take that into account either. They don't realize they have to pay taxes. And so, you know, they just spend a whole bunch of it. But also, you know, I mean, our industry, I feel like we don't have consistent income. So we really like those are the people that really need to be careful and really good with savings because you never know where your next paycheck is coming from. I think, too, being on a reality show, a lot of reality stars, Michael just said it, the money funnel gets turned on. I think it's going to come forever. It's like you said, you really have to be thoughtful and purposeful with your future of what you're doing. Absolutely. Did you manifest your husband?

I did. Well, not him specifically, but I pretty much did. Yeah. Talk to us about how you manifested him. I did. Well, not him specifically, but I pretty much did. Yeah, I feel like I did. Talk to us about how you manifested him. It kind of goes back to the house that I used to have the listing on that I talk about in my book. So I used to have a listing on this gorgeous house. And I've seen all the houses. I would sit in houses every Sunday and Tuesdays and go and open houses all the time. I knew everything on the market.

But there was this one house that was so special. It was so gorgeous. And I used to sit there every Sunday. And by habit, I guess, but also by love, I imagined myself living there. And like I didn't even make like a few grand in real estate at the time. Like I had no money to my name. And so I would just be like, gosh, it would be so great to live here and, you know, just have my husband bring me coffee. And I always wanted someone who wasn't like me.

I always wanted someone who was very nerdy and just a different personality type, you know, very smart. I'm like opposite of me, very smart. No, but so I manifested a software engineer in a weird way. But I used to sit in that house and I would imagine a man like bringing me coffee downstairs that was my husband. And so I feel in a weird way I did manifest my husband. And then also I manifested the same house that we live in now. Because years later, the house didn't sell.

Years later, it came on the market. And I didn't recognize it. We went to go look at it. And I was like, oh, this was the house I wanted to live in. We bought it. So I do feel like I manifested my husband and also the house. I mean, how crazy is it to be a real estate agent sitting in a house every Sunday imagining this and now you own the house? It's crazy to me because I never in a million years, the position of where I was at that moment in time in my life, like, I mean, $5,000 to me just blew my mind, let alone like a multimillion dollar house that just,

it wasn't achievable. But in my mind, I don't know if it was just delusions of grandeur, manifestation. I don't really know what the difference is, honestly, because I was just, I was so convinced that somehow one day I would. And it happened, oddly enough. When you meet your husband, did you know right away? I knew he was definitely special. On the first date, he was really nervous. He was like sweating, I remember. And I was like, is this guy on crack? Like he was sweating his upper lip. He was like shaking. I was like, what the fuck is this guy on drugs? And I just, I did like him. Then, you know,

he finally broke the ice and he's like, I'm a little nervous. I'm like, yeah, I can tell. I can tell. But when we started having the banter, then it was so nice and we just got along so well. And it was just this like constant stream of conversation. And, you know, I would finish his sentences and he would finish mine. And he'd be like, oh, did you hear about this? Do you know about this? And everything we were in alignment with, it was really nice. It sounds like he's very intellectually stimulating for you.

Very. That's the thing that I'm so grateful for every day is I learn so much from him that I didn't even know existed. So absolutely. It's a really great place to be in. I'm going to say it. Do you think that there was a little bit of a change from the girls on the show when you start to date and then get married to this man who checks, I mean, it seems like all the boxes. It was really confusing to everyone because we were early on. So we were all like, you know, renting clothes from Evolve. Like we were not, you know, even making money at this moment in time. He pretty much came out of nowhere. And we were engaged three months later.

And then we had this whirlwind, you know, this whirlwind romance, which was obviously covered on the show as well in our wedding. And so a lot of the other girls were just like completely in shock. And some would call it jealousy. But I don't know why, you know, because I would be happy if they found someone as well. But I definitely felt a shift in things. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. The wedding that she had, she's like, I don't know why they were jealous. You should have seen this wedding. We have to play the clip, Taylor. This wedding was bigger than Kate Middleton's wedding in the castle.

I've never seen a wedding like this in my entire life. Yeah, when you're describing it, I was picturing like you guys got married on there. She's renting revolve clothes and then she's getting married and she makes it sound like she had like an intimate wedding. This wedding, guys, go Google the wedding. I will admit, I haven't seen the wedding episode, but as you were describing it, I was like, oh, they must have like gotten like a nice married meeting out on the beach, a couple of friends.

It was completely different. Can you kind of describe the wedding? There was like a fucking elephant or something that walked around the aisle well there was a zebra at our engagement party and then there was a lion for something else but no there was a lion at your wedding no lion was for something else and then there was a sloth but that was for something else no but so our wedding was a till death do us part theme. Like my aesthetic is very gothic Barbie.

And if you see my house, you can come by. You'll kind of get the vibe. It's like very black, but then nature and roses and things like that. So I knew I wanted to do a wedding kind of like that. My husband didn't care. And in all honesty, I really didn't care about a wedding. I know that every girl dreams about it. And they're like, oh my God, I'm so excited about my wedding. I'm like the man in the relationship. I really am. I'm just like, as long as I'm in love and I'm happy with someone, I don't really care about

all that stuff. And I don't really need to put on a show for anyone. However, at the moment in time that I was in, I was on a show and they wanted to see a show. So, you know, we were pushed really hard to put a wedding together. And we put that wedding together in two months. And it was a gothic, like a gothic winter wonderland is the best way I could describe it. And so I was in a horse-drawn carriage, a black horse-drawn carriage. You know, I arrived to the chapel and, you know, black horses in this black carriage. And then I walk in

and it's all white. It's a winter wonderland and there's huge LED screens projecting a snowstorm and the second I walk down the aisle, it starts snowing. Okay. And then there's white swans and then after we get married, the

white swans turn into black swans and then the whole get married the white swans turn into black swans and then the whole venue immediately turns into a black gothic winter wonderland phantom of the opera plays and i walk down the aisle to sweep with psycho yeah now you made me walk down the aisle i didn't even have anything to carry me down the aisle i want to do. I'm sorry. I should have had carriages and swans and lions and tigers and bears. I want Phantom of the Opera to play when the swans turn from white swans. Okay, well, I have a little bit of a better idea why some of the women might have turned on you. Here's what I respect about you. You just said it. You didn't really care, but if they want you to put on a show, you're going to put on a show. It's

like you rally and you get it done to the best of your abilities. It seems to me that in every area of your life, you want to be the best version of yourself and you expect a 10 out of 10 from the people around you and yourself. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I could see she wants to put like, she's on a show. Well, this is why like, you know, people have had these kinds of conversations. I think you have to, if you're going to do a show like yours, you have to do what you did because you can, you can walk away from that experience now and have these kinds of conversations and people of all walks of life. Like I fucking get it. I understand where like some people do it. You're like, you didn't really get much out of that experience. You didn't really put on a show and like, why did you, like, I'm not sitting here asking,

why would you do that? I'm like, I get why you did it. There's a lot of people. I'm like, why the hell would you do that? I get what you're saying about not always dreaming about your wedding too i felt the same way that was not i mean sorry i was kind of just like like yes it would be nice but i mean i would rather just spend that money and go on a nice vacation together that's just me personally and then have a nice dinner with family. But I only did it because of the show, obviously. So after that wedding, like, did you notice a shift? Oh, absolutely. Yes, there was an immediate shift.

And I remember, you know, all the girls were sitting there like, Zoolander style. I think I got the black lung when it was snowing. And I'm like, bitch, it's snowing at my wedding. And you hosts can't even make it rain like a dollar like stop so yes I did notice a shift in them for sure one thing that drove me nuts and I don't know if it was because I was pregnant was the pregnancy thing that was really really rough, that was, you could tell was like an actual real thing within the show. I might not say as eloquently as I can, but basically you got pregnant and people said

that you faked your pregnancy. And like there was a show, there was a scene where you did yoga, but I heard somewhere else that you like filmed the scene separately. Of course. Yeah, maybe you can explain it better. Yeah, long story short, it started the biggest media storm I've ever been involved in.

And that was because, obviously we never shoot things chronologically. We shoot everything what they call evergreen because just in case, you know, a storyline comes up, they want to be able to insert that here. So everything that we do is kind of like, you know, a yoga scene or an office scene and they can place it anywhere. So I was doing a yoga scene with one of the girls who wasn't supposed to be brought back into the show until episode eight or nine to the very end of the show.

So, but we shot that early when I was pregnant, I was doing yoga and I was upside down on my head. I was very active in my pregnancy. But the way that they shot it is only from here up. And when I was doing headstands, they only showed me from the back and far away. So what happened was it looked like on the show I had a baby. And then the next day I was upside down doing headstands, you know, and yoga poses. And people were like, oh, my God, you can't do that if you just had a baby. This is ridiculous. You didn't have a baby.

And then so rumors started that I used a surrogate and I didn't even carry. And I'm like faking these bumps and like all these workout videos of me in sports bras on my. I'm like, I literally had like 50 videos. I would film myself all the time doing yoga. And I'm like, do people had like 50 videos. I would film myself all the time doing yoga. And I'm like, do people really think that like what? So it was just mind boggling to me. But it was because the way that they edited it, it was from here up and it was from behind. So it shows that I had a baby and then I was upside down doing yoga.

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code SKINNY, all caps. What's even crazier about what happened to you is that the way that you gave birth was so traumatic on you and then they like after she gave birth they like were you were they were so mean to you in the trauma of the birth the audience or the or the the cast i just it's the cast members it was bad energy I don't know it was I yeah and I remember you know people always used to say with Maya they're like Maya was always pregnant you know they're like she's the pregnant girl don't fight with her you can't fight with the pregnant girl and that was like a thing that was like a thing between the cast but for me that was not that rule did not apply but it's like the second I had my baby I didn't even have a

break you know I was back to filming after a week because they were pressuring me so hard rule did not apply. But it's like the second I had my baby, I didn't even have a break. You know, I was back to filming after a week because they were pressuring me so hard. And so that was when I said, fine, I'll show up to a scene and I don't want any drama. And that was what ended up being the finale. And that was literally like a week and a half, maybe after I had my emergency C-section. And I said, I'll come at the very end. And then the second I walked up, it was just like a swarm of an intervention. And that's when I said, OK, I'm out. I'm done. I can't do this anymore. And that was so hard for me. That was so hurtful because it's like I was so hormonal. You know, I was going through postpartum, the whole nine yards and then filming a reality show on top of that. It was like,

forget it. I mean, I can't even imagine leaving the house a week and a half after. I mean, that's a lot. Yeah, it was. I mean, I could hardly walk. Like, it was so painful to even stand. I've never had a C-section, but I've heard that you're supposed to be laying down. Yeah, it was awful. How did you know that you had to have an emergency C-section?

Like, what alerted you? Well, I honestly believe it was the stress of work. I really, really do because we were filming a scene and I just, the show, the anxiety of the show was getting to me and all of a sudden my water broke. Basically, we filmed a scene. I drove home. Five seconds after I got home, all over the floor, my water broke.

Literally five minutes after I got home from work. And I know it was because of the stress of the scene, the anxiety and the stress of the scene. I just know it. So my water broke and then my husband rushed me to the hospital. And the second I got there, I was 10 centimeters dilated already. So I couldn't have an epidural. I couldn't do anything. They were like trying to have me push the vacuum the whole nine yards. I mean, without epidural. Meanwhile, you know, the cord was twisted and the heart rate on the baby was going down.

And so they had to make a really, really quick decision. And just I had to go have an emergency C-section really quick. And they did it in, I can't remember, but it was a record time because both of our heart rates were dropping. And they were worried that both of us weren't going to make it. And so they sewed me up so quickly that they had to after send me through an x-ray machine because they didn't have time to count the tools. Yeah, it was and then they make you go on film a week and a half later yeah I mean I yeah looking back do you wish you just said no yeah I do I really do because I was like I would rather be at home with my son I'd rather be at home with my family like I didn't want to be there and I knew at this point I was already checked out and also like you can't even you can't perform you can't know like on stage I now that I like look back to on that scene when

everyone like confronted you it's it's fucked up yeah it was really almost it's almost like a little bit like taking you when they knew you were your weakest hundred percent yeah when you're you're not, when you, and again, don't take this the wrong way. I witnessed Lauren go through postpartum and obviously two births, but like you're not thinking as clear as you would be now. No, yeah. Absolutely not. You're not thinking clear. I mean, I'm not, I wasn't thinking clear.

Absolutely not. I mean, you just went through a trauma. Yeah. The thing too that I think about pregnancy is like you envision yourself in the hospital at 40 weeks. That was my goal. I wanted candles and aromatherapy. And I was like, yeah. And so what people don't realize is not only are you mourning like what's just happened,

you're mourning the vision that you had in your head. Absolutely. And I think that that kind of just gets discredited. And the x-ray machine is like, I mean, that's traumatic. Yeah. It's traumatic. And my doctor couldn't even make it. They were looking for a tool that they might have accidentally like left in you

because you were going so fast. Yeah. Basically what they do because I was in labor when I arrived at the hospital, you know? So I was already way past the point of when I should have been in the hospital. They said you had to go lighting speed. Yeah, exactly. So my doctor couldn't make it in time. So my ultrasound doctor who was at the hospital was the one who had to do it. He was the one who did the surgery and they were going so fast because what happened is they, the nurse came up to my husband because both of us were alternating. And so he's like,

we're going to prioritize both, but if we have to pick one, I need you to choose. And so my husband was just like, both, you have to do both. So they have a procedure, I guess, where whatever tools they use at the end, they count them to make sure that all the tools were taken out. But they didn't have that time to do that because my heart rate was dropping. So they had to just sew me up after they got the baby out. And they're like, we're going to have to x-ray her later. I don't want to make you relive the trauma over and over. No, no, no.

But it happens. They leave tools in people all the time. You hear about it. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I just can't believe that after all of this, that the audience and people say about fake pregnancy. Can you imagine what she's been through for people to then say that?

I just think people should not comment on people's pregnancies. I couldn't agree more. And bodies. Fuck off. It's getting so old. People have like a different stance. I always say, because we And bodies. It's getting so old. People have like a different stance. I always say,

because we talk to people, a lot of people that come on these reality shows and I always say like there's such a, like the audience and people online have such a different standard

for the things they say to people that put themselves on television. Yeah, it's an entitlement. You're absolutely right. It's the same people that says like laugh, pray, love in their bio,

but they're like that kind of person. But I feel like there's this weird place as a society where it's like well you put yourself out there so now i'm allowed to say whatever i want because you signed up for this and you're exactly right because that's the comments that i see about it they're like well then don't be on a reality show if you don't want your life talked about you know and i'm just like but if you went onto their social platform and saw some picture or something corinthians 9-4 you know what i mean like matthew or like your husband's ex-girlfriend from like

it's like a fake troll totally so so so now that you're not on the show people must be sad you've got to get the comments. Yes, I do. People begging you to come back. I do. They're like, please, when are you going to be on TV again? Yes, I do get comments like that. Are you done with TV forever? So for me right now, no, I'm not done with TV forever.

I'm definitely... You're made for TV. Yeah, I'm definitely done with that show, but I absolutely love television. And I want to get back into scripted acting, which I love to do, and hosting I love to to do and things like that I would love to do. I can see a show. I'm sure you've already been approached on how to be a boss bitch. I would love to do that. And I've thought about it. I'm like, OK, you know, I would love to do my own podcast. I would love to do my

own show. It's just trying to figure out what the format looks like. But, you know, my whole entire, you know, motto is kind of like the inspiration and confidence building of women. But, you know, my whole entire, you know, motto is kind of like the inspiration and confidence building of women. And, you know, how can I how can I empower people basically to be the best versions of themselves? Before you go, you have to give our audience some tips to being confident because you are very, very confident in person and on the show. Well, I try. Thank you. I would say confidence is definitely not something that I was born with. It really wasn't.

I mean, you can see now. I'm not who you'd think I would be on the TV show. Actually, I'm a little introverted. I am. But, you know, I'm able to turn it on. And I think that's just the acting background and experience. But it's confidence I was not born with, but through years and years of being rejected and being told no, yet understanding my value and what I'm good at. That's what really made me step into my own and

step into my power and kind of learn to set boundaries and say no to people. Kind of what you said earlier about how you must get stereotyped because of the way that you look or whatever it may be. And a lot of women and even men have that situation. And I definitely dealt with that. But I remember I wanted to get into commercial real estate. And there was this asshole guy that basically told me the way that I looked, like, absolutely no way. And that's kind of what fueled my fire. Then I got into residential and then I killed it. And then I saw him at the gym and he was trying to talk to me and I was like, screw off, you know. So I would just say confidence

is one of those things that you really just have to go out there and keep trying to knock on every, every single door. And that's really what made me confident is just not giving up. I loved your book. Where can everyone find your book? What can they expect out of your book? So my book is on Amazon and obviously anywhere books are sold. Also, I did an audio version that I really, really love that was really fun to do to be able to like talk and connect with the audience. But basically, it's all about manifestation and kind of confidence and stepping into your own power. I have a lot on, you know, savings, investments. I talk about sugar daddies, relationships. I mean, everything. It's juicy. I have a lot of stories. But also, it's really, really inspiring and just inspires women to get up and just do

what they love and might as well make money at it too. And they call you the bitch whisperer. The bitch whisperer. What's the advice on the sugar daddies? The advice on the sugar daddy? You got to give us the one line. Okay. The advice on the sugar daddies is never quit your day job and never lose your freedom.

And that's the number one mistake that daddies is never quit your day job and never lose your freedom. And that's the number one mistake that I did was I quit my job. He wanted me to quit my job for me. And that's the number one thing that I regret. So is a sugar daddy somebody that's classified as a wealthy man that basically says, okay. His cubes are probably gray, right? Well, I was 21 and he was 40, but he was really good looking. So he's salt and pepper. He had blonde hair, like full head of hair.

I mean, my husband's older than, my husband's 44. Yeah. But 40 is not that old, right? No, I don't think 40 is old. No, but when I was 20. So what you're saying is you don't recommend being in a situation where someone signs up for a sugar daddy, but then leaves all of their own efficiencies behind and just relies on this person the problem with the sugar daddy though and you say this in your book is that oh it's like despise the free lunch a lot of them want

you to quit your day job yeah you have to have enough conviction and confidence to say no and that's that i mean if i were in that situation, it would be a totally different thing. I would know what to ask for. I would know to say, you know, no, I'm not quitting my job because I make this much at work. And then what they're going to do is say, oh, I'll give you that. No, you lose your independence. You lose your freedom. You lose your sense of self. You just have to have your own thing going on. And then sure, if someone wants to pay your bills and take you out to dinner and buy you caviar, of course who wouldn't want that but just don't lose yourself in the process no you're not a sugar daddy if that's what you're asking no i'm looking you're not a sugar daddy i'm a fucking sugar daddy for you i'm looking for a sugar mama i am a rich man yeah i'm a rich man

i love that jayla what are you saying where do we find a sugar mom is your mic not on again no it's on it's just not in the headset where do we find a sugar mama? Is your mic not on again? No, it's on. It's just not in the headset. Where do we find a sugar mama? Taylor wants a sugar mama. I want a sugar mama. A sugar mama. You know, I retract what I said. I actually, I want the free lunch now, Lauren.

I'm done. I am giving sugar mama undertones. No, but you're a sugar mama and you're a sugar daddy. So like it works out perfect. You guys are perfect for each other. She said something earlier. And this is just like, I just think this is important for people when they think about a long-term relationship at the end of the day i think the most important thing is to feel intellectually stimulated by the person

you're going to be with for a long time because all the other stuff is great you don't want to feel like you're staring at a piece of drywall yeah like you got it there's got to be a little bit of ping pong going on you know i mean you got to give it back yeah and my husband I will be completely transparent my husband would love it if I never worked again he would love it and he's tried and we've had many conversations he's like but don't you love being like a wife and a mother and being at home because he's retired and I'm like yes I do but I can also have my things and do my thing so I took you know what I learned from my book and applied it to my life now. And that's what made me set boundaries. And now I'm in the best position. Wait, so essentially you are the sugar mama since he's retired and you're working. I actually am the sugar mama. I'm the only one that's making income in this household

right now, actually. She's not available, Taylor. I am. I saw his eyes when you walked in. It was like it was like a dog about to devour.mel. She's not giving off that kind of energy. I know. She wasn't giving off the energy to you. And so it immediately blocked you. And you probably Googled some weird shit. I think the energy was shut down, Taylor. I just want to make sure you understand that very clearly as you're back there behind that

wall. There's no energy for you. Where can everyone go follow you on Instagram, buy your book, support what you're doing, all the things? Yes. I am on Instagram as the Christine Quinn. And my book is available on Amazon and Kindle

and obviously anywhere books are sold, How to Be a Boss Bitch. And I just, I know you guys will love it. It's just so cute and juicy, but very inspirational. Can we give away a signed copy

with an ice roller? Absolutely. Okay, you guys go follow at the Christine Quinn and then tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic.

Christine, you can come back anytime. I feel like we could have talked to you about a ton of different things. Oh, I could talk to you guys all day long. I mean, very, very easy to talk to you. Come on back anytime. Well, I have to say, and like I said to you off camera,

you guys are incredible. I have seen all the podcasts that you've done. I've been a fan for so long. And just the way that you're able to make people not only feel really comfortable, because I'm nervous. I'm so nervous. Really? You just killed it. Thank you. I don't feel like it, but I'm really nervous. But I love you guys. I love all the podcasts that you do. I love your banter. I think you guys are incredible, wonderful humans. Oh, thank you. Because people just love you guys. That's very, very nice.

We don't get compliments like that. I mean, honestly, thank you. That was very nice. And you have crushed the podcast. Do you want to win Christine Quinn's book that's signed and ready for you? All you have to do is tell us your favorite takeaway from this episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic. I hope you love this episode as much as I did. And also her book can be found on Amazon.