The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Cindy Crawford - The Icon & Legendary Supermodel On Life's Reflections, Health, Wellness, Beauty, & Diet

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

#732: Today we’re sitting down with Cindy Crawford. Cindy is known to the world as one of the original supermodels who defined that pivotal moment when fashion models became stars in their own right. We discuss her journey from a small town in Illinois to becoming an industry icon, her ventures into television and media, parenting, advice for young professionals, the importance of being present, engaged, and off the phone, and how to be mindful of your intentions.    To connect with Cindy Crawford click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes.   Visit meaningfulbeauty.com/skinny for 25% off your order.   This episode is brought to you by Prolon   Prolon is offering The Skinny Confidential listeners 15% off their 5-day nutrition program. Go to ProlonLife.com/SKINNY.   This episode is brought to you by Lipton Green tea is a great ally for wellness and a simple way to up your everyday healthy habits. Try the new Lipton Green Tea!   This episode is brought to you by Arrae Visit arrae.com and use code SKINNY to receive 15% off your first purchase or autoship order plus 4 free Bloat travel packs. This episode is brought to you by Sun Bum Visit sunbum.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 15% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Philadelphia Cream Cheese   Philadelphia makes everything creamier. Visit creamcheese.com for recipe inspiration and so you can start adding Philadelphia to your recipes at home!   This episode is brought to you by ResortPass   Visit Resortpass.com/skinny to get $20 off your first ResortPass experience.   Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her. I think fame kind of, for me anyway, it wasn't like one big moment.

It just was like creeping up on you, but certainly doing things like the Pepsi commercial for the Super Bowl, that was big. Because again, it wasn't just a fashion crowd. Doing House of Style on MTV, it opened up my audience to men doing Playboy. Each of those things, as you piled them on, they kind of added to the Cindy Crawford, whatever. The legendary, the iconic Cindy Crawford, supermodel, entrepreneur, mother, and wife is on the show today. I could not be more excited for this episode. This was so fun to sit down with Cindy, almost like we were at happy hour over Casio Amigos jalapeno tequila. Just having the best, most casual conversation. I think you're going to love this episode.

You all know Cindy as an iconic fashion model. She's someone who's really defined fashion. She also is a huge mogul. She has a successful skincare line called Meaningful Beauty. And then she just partnered with Cassie Amigos to unveil Cassie Amigos Jalapeno Tequila. She tells me how to make her favorite personal drink. I asked her her favorite cocktail. We talk about the modeling days, motherhood, being a wife, showing up as an entrepreneur, how she pivoted in her career. And she gives us some really great beauty tips. I think you're going to die for this episode because it really showcases another side of Cindy. She's really multifaceted. And for me, I was like not only taking notes this episode, but I was just really engaged. She's a beautiful role model as a mother, a wife, and an entrepreneur. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her.

I was just telling you off air that I would love to get context on your story before you even got into modeling. Oh, wow. Okay. What was that, your childhood? How'd you grow up? I am from DeKalb, Illinois, which is a small town about 60 miles west of Chicago, blue-collar family. And then I have an older sister, a younger sister, and I had a younger brother. He passed away when I was 10. He was two. And I guess I always mention that because that was probably the biggest, like, you know,

kind of like a very typical small town childhood. But obviously, having a sick brother who died, like that had a huge impact on my family. And, you know, obviously devastating, but I also think that fortunately, like my mother was very, had a lot of faith and was very, she actively grieved. She went to death and dying classes. She, you know, really leaned on her church community and she kind of ushered us through that. and I think that because of the way she was able to deal with that which you know I don't know how a mother does do that we were able to I don't know like in some ways like I almost felt like that was my rocket fuel it made me want to do more because I lost my brother I was a student student, like that was my thing. I was

kind of like the annoying girl that was in the front row of every algebra or calculus class, you know, raising my hand. Never even thought about modeling, never even, you know, back then, like now every young girl grows up at least knowing what a model is or maybe even you know every girl really is a model with their selfies right but we didn't have that and I my mother didn't wear makeup she was not into fashion so that was just not a world that I knew or dreamed about and just through kind of a strange sequence of events, I got, I guess, scouted by our local photographer who shot literally like the football games. Like if I would be in the audience at the football games,

he would be there. And he asked to photograph me. And that was kind of like, my parents thought he was super creepy. So they came- It sounds kind of creepy in hindsight. Yeah, they came with me to the first shoot. And he set me on this this path and I somehow, I mean, it's a long story, but ended up, you know, in New York and on the cover of Vogue and it was like wild, wild ride. When you were scouted, did you know, I wasn't like a total nerd.

I'm not saying that like, you know, I was the girl in the library all the time. But my school, like the cute girls or the homecoming queens, they were like the cheerleaders, like the little like, you know, and that was not me and so even when this guy wanted to take my picture no I I didn't I didn't know it was for like the a local college paper where they had like the co-ed of the week he kind of introduced me actually the a girl to a woman that did hair and makeup by night by day she worked at the telephone company she recommended that I go to a hair show where they well you had to audition but you got like a hundred dollars if they chose you but you had to go on stage and they could do whatever they wanted to your hair like literally I could have walked out of there with a mohawk but fortunately I got like these two hairdressers from New York and they just gave me like a nice bob and they were the ones that said you should go to new york and or you should really think about modeling as a real as a real job and so i got the yellow pages

and i called modeling agencies in chicago and my parents came with me and just one thing led to another and what was like happening in that in the modeling world at that time what were like the big things if you can even remember well i mean i wasn't following it but i were like the big things that you can even remember? Well, I mean, I wasn't following it, but I, you know, the big models of the generation right before me were very like the blonde hair, blue eye, like all American, like Christie Brinkley and Cheryl Teagues and, you know, that kind of almost Scandinavian look. And I remember my first, I don't know what magazines you looked at when you ran, but I remember I had a Teen Vogue with like Phoebe Cates on it. Okay. And that was like the first time I noticed, I was like, noticed who was on the cover of a magazine and like was interested enough to get her name and understand.

Oh, that, but you know, that's, that's a job. But how to get from DeKalb, Illinois to there was like impossible. So I wouldn't, I didn't even know. I wouldn't, you know, it wasn't something I would have known even how to pursue, but kind of just through the sequence of events, I got assured there. You also are incredibly business savvy. Was that ingrained in you at a young age or was that later on? I wouldn't say I wasn't, you know, I was, I liked, I was good at school and I love to learn. I'm like a lifetime learner. And I think that, you know, when I started modeling, if you pay attention and

you keep your eyes and ears open, you can't help but learn stuff. So eventually, as I had success as a model, I was able to, oh, I'm going to do my own exercise video, or I'm going to take a chance and do this other thing. And then, oh, it did well. Maybe I do have good ideas. And that empowered me to do like the next thing and the next thing. What do you see as the difference, obviously, now with social media to when you began? What are the biggest What do you see as the difference obviously now with social media to when you began? What are the biggest differences that you see? Wow. I mean, that's huge. I mean, I think probably the biggest thing is that when I was young and, you know, making a name for myself, I did not have a direct way to communicate with my fans. Yeah, so different. I always had to go through a journalist or an interviewer,

what they thought of me, the questions they asked me. Like I wasn't able to be my own author of my own story. And I think that that's why social media is incredibly powerful. You really can build your brand and you can tell people who you think you are and how you wanna be presented. That doesn't mean you also won't have some of the other, but your first, I think that most direct contact with your fans is really priceless, which is why now brands,

they care more about what your social media following is and engagement. I guess engagement now is even more important than the one number, right right like how engaged are your fans and that's why it's shifted even like brands are going after influencers that maybe aren't like on the cover of vogue but they have a huge reach you know it's interesting too i even think about this format of this show and i don't know if there was when you were coming up at that time is there anything similar to this where you could have like a long form dialogue like this? No, no, no, no, no. You do like David Letterman. And it was a quick set.

And it was five minutes and you knew what three, you know, you had been pre-interviewed and you hope he just didn't try to make you look like a complete idiot. Cause you know, like if I was on David Letterman, I was on there talking about lipstick, which he probably didn't really want to be talking about, you know? So it was like a weird thing, but that was, those were the kind of interviews you got. I rarely sat for like a long format interview. No. And what was the environment like when you first started out with the other models? Was, was it catty? Were you guys friends? Was it the same models throughout the time? Did you guys grow up together or was it different all the time?

Yeah. So I started in Chicago, which was nice because I was from the Midwest. So it wasn't like such a big culture shock. Yeah. And I was going to college and modeling for a short while. And then I dropped out of college, but I stayed in Chicago. And in Chicago, I was like one of the big models because it's like a very small little pond.

And I was making great money, but I was doing one of the big models because it's like a very small little pond and and I was making great money but I was doing catalog every day but it was great because it was very like a normal life and I could go to my mom's house on the weekend or see my college friends on the weekend and then I would go and do like nine to five like you know belt modeling for Marshall Fields or whatever and eventually my agency we they had a partner agency in New York and they kept asking me to come to New York by the time I came to New York I was 20 so I wasn't like 14 15 like some some girls are which is really young especially if you don't have like supervision and you don't look young so people don't really treat you like you're young. And that's where I think things can get a little dicey.

But I was 20. I'd lived on my own, moved to New York. At that time, like right away, I met Christy. Linda, I met Farrah. She was living in Paris at the time, but I would meet, you know, I, of course, like at shows, really where we all saw each other was show season, which was like twice a year and during that month

we'd go to paris and then milan and new york you were you we were like a little tribe it was like camp it was like a traveling camp does it feel competitive during that time or does it feel more i think at like our level it wasn't so competitive because everyone was doing well. You guys all looked unique too, which I think takes a lot of the comp. If you guys all looked the same, I think that that would be more competition. Yeah. And I think, look, certainly were there jobs that Christy did that I wish I would have done or jobs that Linda or Naomi or Stephanie Seymour did that I was like, oh, that's so great. I wish I would have done it. but it wasn't like, oh, I wish they wouldn't have. I'm gonna put rash cream so they break out and they're gonna have to call me.

No, I don't know. I'm just like, I'm thinking what like a cheesy movie would say like, oh, put this itch powder in their bed so that they break out with a rash or something. No, I mean, I remember like in Paris, Linda had a car because she lived there. She had this tiny little red car that she named Petunia or Petula or something like that.

And we would literally, it was like a clown car. We would pile like eight full grown, you know, tall women in this tiny car. Oh, I'm sure the French had a tough time with that. Yeah, and then we would like all pile out like to do like Chanel or whatever show we were doing. And then we would go to dinner. So, no, there was actually a lot of camaraderie and support. I think that especially because doing, sometimes there some seasons I never did this, but some of those women would do like 30 shows in a week. And it was just like insane. And you needed like the moral support, like because when you were having your usually every show season, you would cry once. Like there was always like that moment where you would just break. It would be like your shoe fell off on the runway or your car didn't show up and you had to run,

you know, whatever. And everyone have like a mini breakdown. And that's when we would all support each other through that. What does the hometown crowd think of all this once this starts happening? I always think about that. Yeah, it's kind of,

we were talking about that this morning because even with like sisters, right? And family, like all of a sudden you're in this life where they, like at the time they'd never been to Europe. I had only been on an airplane once when I started modeling. Wow. It was like, and then all of a sudden I'm in Japan, you know, having, what was that movie? The movie with Bill Murray, Lost in Translation, right? Having those Lost in Translation moments where you're like, wait, I'm 18 years old in Japan. We didn't have cell phones.

I couldn't call my mom and be like, how do I even work these weird vending machines here or whatever? I mean, everything was so, so, so foreign then. With my hometown friends, I'm still, I actually still, like I had got together with some last time i was in chicago a lot of them still live in that area but it's it's like part of my life they can understand and part of it it's just different like i remember for some reason i remember you doing something like was it a commercial with michael jordan or was it a shoot what did you do you did something i remember was it him or was it shack i've done something with shack yeah i remember that because i was young when that happened yeah and i just i like the juxtaposition

to that was just so wild well also he's like yeah a giant i met him one time and i you looked like a little danny devito i look like Danny DeVito standing next to him too I remember that and I remember seeing that I mean like whoa that it was like two completely different worlds colliding in the justice position he was so anyways well I think I imagine it's strange for them to see that yeah it's fun like I actually think that in a weird way fashion especially back then it was so in its own silo I don't think a lot if you didn't follow fashion maybe you didn't really until I really broke through like you might not have understood what I was doing but then it would be like oh but she's with Shaq okay

she must be cool or something do you know what I mean you're guilty by association and actually I was in Chicago for our friend just got inducted into the hockey hall of fame or no, his Jersey got retired, which I guess is a really big deal. His name's Chris Chelios. And they asked some of the celebrities that were there to come on the ice. Do you know hockey at all? Yeah, sure. Okay. So to do like this from half. The halfway shot. Yeah. But did you know like the little hole they want you to put the puck in is like the size of a mouse hole? I didn't. I thought you had the whole net so did i so i mean they do when they're playing hockey but when you do this thing at half half time or it's not half time because it's isn't it like do they win if they win something if they're supposed to win something anyway so

a couple other people went and they didn't make it so then i was like oh there's no pressure but i'm wearing leather pants and high heels like this is insane that I'm even like scooting out on the ice trying not to wipe out. And then I made it. And actually, I think one of our mutual friends that we were talking about,

like who I didn't even know was a hockey fan, like all of a sudden, friends from like Illinois, because hockey's big in Illinois. I got all these weird texts from people I hadn't heard from in a million years.

Like, I don't care that I was on Vogue 20 times or whatever. Nice shot to me. It's like, nice shot. No, I think our mutual friend is looking for reasons to text you and he was just trying to slide into your text. Sorry. Probably. I'll call that out.

I think he's looking for reasons. When did you feel like you had your first big, not big break, but breakthrough where it was like, oh my God, this has shifted. I am now famous. That's interesting because it wasn't, I thought you were going to say breakthrough and that would have been like my first Vogue cover. And then I remember going to the newsstand, it was out and I was so excited. And I went to buy it. I bought three copies and the lady just didn't even look up from the magazine. She just was like, you have three copies of the same magazine.

And I wanted her to look at me and go like, oh my God, it's you. She didn't. She just like, it's like, okay, $9, whatever. So it wasn't that. When did I, you know,

I think fame kind of, for me anyway, it wasn't like one big moment. It just was like creeping up on you, but certainly doing things like the Pepsi commercial for the Super Bowl, that was big because, again, it wasn't just a fashion crowd. it opened up my audience to men because MTV had more of a male audience than female doing Playboy. Each of those things, as you piled them on, they kind of added to the Cindy Crawford, whatever. Kind of momentum, it sounds like. Yeah. Did it get to the point ever where it felt maybe like you needed to make an adjustment in your personal life because of that? Because I imagine that's strange going from Illinois and a smaller populace where it's not these coasts to all of a sudden you're walking down the street and people just...

You know, I never... Again, there were no cell phones there, so not everyone had a cell phone, a phone, a camera. There wasn't the same hungry beast of paparazzi that's constantly trying to get model off-duty shots. I watch what my daughter goes through, and it's so different. If I had full glam walking down the street in New York back then, of course you're going to get like catcalls or whatever but I could pretty much do my life in New York at that time I think when what I noticed it was like if okay let's say I'm going to be in Shanghai for Omega watches I remember actually doing this I was in Shanghai for Omega watches and it was advertised that I was going to be there. And it was like probably like, you know, in the heyday of my Vogue fashion years. And there was like 5,000 people outside of a little watch store

to the point where it was like scary, you know, because it was, you know, you have to have security, but they, they had all been they knew i was coming they were waiting for me and like the anticipation is kind of what gets the crowd going if you're just like walking down the street by the time people like clock you and i mean i'm sure you guys know it's like by the time they actually know it's you you're already 10 10 feet down the sidewalk but if there's a waiting and an anticipation, there's more pressure. We talk about it all the time, like not to the same degree. Like Lauren and I are fortunate where we kind of kind of curate our environment and there's

a lot of stuff. But the type of attention I think you and other people that we've interviewed, it's like, it's almost like that's not something you can just like turn on and off, right? It's like once it's there, it's there. Joe Rogan always says this. He says once the faucet it gets the faucet gets to a point where you actually can't turn it off yes that is true and you learn to navigate yeah a little bit better like you know where it's going to be like dripping or where it's going to be on

you know so you just kind of and when you know it's going to be on you're just prepared for it yeah and and then and when you know it's going to be on, you're just prepared for it. Yeah. And then you're not, I think it's like when it catches you off guard, that's more when you get freaked out by it. When you, like if I'm going to an event or a red, if you go to the Met Ball, you know, you're going to be on that red carpet for half an hour, you know, you got to walk up those stairs in a dress that's probably impossible to walk upstairs. And you know, you know the drill. It's when you're caught off guard. I think that makes it hard. That makes sense. When you look back, when you first were in modeling what were the beauty secrets that you guys were doing that maybe you don't do now but what were you guys doing oh gosh it was like the mac spice pencil for the lip but we would do like the overdrawn lip in this

spice you just sold them out there I like anyone that hears that on tiktok they're all gonna go buy that it's very 90s it's so funny because like these looks are coming back i know but if you didn't do it in the 90s it's fine but like like my daughter can do a 90s look like now i can't you know it's kind of like wearing mom jeans when you're a mom they're not as cute it's like you know that's true i don't i don't know i feel for me i i feel like if you wore a trend the first time it was around it's hard to like you don't think you go back to a trend that you helped i think you could go back to spice and it would really but i probably wouldn't overdraw as much as i did then like we just and then let's see what else you know i was never one of those women that

like was so good at doing my own hair and makeup but there were like linda evangelista and my friend gail elliott they would bring these makeup kits from henry bendel's they were brown the brown and white striped and they were better than any makeup artist doing their own makeup i was always the first one to get in the makeup artist chair so i think i learned a lot from watching those other women. What else did we do? But yeah, I don't know. It was fun. Like, I think that's the thing.

Like, we had fun with hair and makeup. It wasn't pressure. Yeah, right now it's like the glam is taken so seriously. Yeah. It's different. And we didn't go out like that. We, like, the way you wore your makeup at a shoot or on the runway we would wash our face before we went it was like went out too much it was yeah yeah like like I don't know

we all yeah we definitely would not go out that way did you go to studio 54 I didn't I'm actually it was closed by the time I got to New York I'm not I'm too young for studio 54 which I like to say I have to ask every model that'm too young for Studio 54, which I like to say. I have to ask every model that's ever existed about Studio 54. I actually have been in Studio 54, but it had closed, but they were shooting something there. So I've been in the building, but I never experienced a full Studio 54 thing. My husband did. He said he snuck in when he was 16. Did he say it was wild? I think that goes without saying. it sounds like I don't think

I got a lot of details but I he had fun so what was going on in the scene of New York City and Paris and Milan it obviously not Studio 54 what were the things to do what was the culture what was it like okay so I was not a party girl so I'm probably the wrong person to ask like I definitely was the one that was like no I'm gonna go back to the hotel and read a book but I'm trying to think in New York where like Nell's I don't know there's a it was on 14th street there was a smaller um I remember I saw Prince there and I'm trying to think in Paris people were still going to like La Bondouche. Okay. And Milan, I don't really remember. But it was more like dinners or, you know, like Gianni Versace would have a dinner at his house or something like that. Like, I remember being at his house, actually the one in Miami, and, you know, him having like these very opulent, you know, fabulous dinners.

I bet. What was your mindset during this time? Was this something you viewed like, okay, I'm going to do this for a certain period of time and then do something else? Or you always wanted to stay do it? Like, I was just wondering if you say you never got caught up in the party scene and you were just kind of go home with the book. What were you thinking at the time? Well, I for sure wasn't thinking this was something I was going to stick with very long because I don't think that was like, no one thought that way about models at the time. I mean, it was very much like

five year career or maybe eight years if you started really young. So even your agency didn't treat you that way. I think I probably thought I would go back to school. You thought this was like a stint and then you're going to go back and get back to like real life. Yeah. Like this was a great way to make money and see the world. And then I would start like my real life. I never in a million, million years thought like at one point I was like, okay, I guess I'm going to do this till I'm 30. And then at 30, I'm like, well, I guess till 35. And then it was like till 40. Like I kind of keep re-upping for five more years. When you got House of Style, how old were you at that point?

Because I feel like that was a big I mean it seems like it's a big turning point you're on television now it was a male audience yeah that was a big turning point because it also gave me an opportunity to talk you know and be and kind of like again like models without social media you're just a two-dimensional picture right like so people can project oh she looks nice or she looks like you know not nice or whatever but when on house of style i got to people got to see my personality i think i was started that when i was like 22 maybe and then i did it for seven years that's a long time i was like by that time i'm like i can't go shopping with one more rock star like because you know i loved it and it was fun but that was kind of what

we would do all the time with one more rock star. But that was kind of what we would do all the time. What do you mean shopping with one more rock star? Well, we would take them shopping or do something. Like, I took Duran Duran to JCPenney's or like I took, you know, Sheryl Crow and I went shoe shopping or Tracy Ullman and I tried on dresses at like the Plaza Hotel and jumped on beds. And it was fun. But like, you know, when.

What is Duran Duran doing in JCPenney? What are they? Oh, my God. It was hilarious. They were trying on women's clothing and it was Nick and Simon. I'm going to go back and see some. Yeah, it's really funny. I think you can find it either archived on my Instagram or TikTok or something.

Do you start to have any kind of resentment as a model when you can't share your voice? I always think about that. Not that you can't. I just share about that. Not that you can't. Why don't you just share it anyway? I don't know. I mean, at the time, like when people would just have their perception, you didn't have the mouthpiece that we all now have.

I mean, definitely when I was, it's funny because there's like a few moments that pop out in my mind when you said that. And one was, I was still 18. I was, you know, the summer before I went to college and I was doing a job in Bermuda for British Vogue. And it was a spa story. I know the photographer, I won't name him. They wanted me in a steam room, right? So I'm in the steam room. They closed the door. They wanted it all steamed up and they're shooting through the glass

with steam. And all of a sudden, like, I feel like I'm going to pass out. So I knock on the door to have them let me out and they didn't let me out and I passed out. So that was a very good lesson for me because it reminded me like, oh, I have to advocate for myself now. And so I remember cut to five years later, I was in Hawaii with another photographer and we're doing a story like on the beach with surfers and I'm wearing an Azzedine Alaya dress and like these crazy shoes and Orbe had done my hair like up to here. And they're like, okay, can you paddle out with this professional surfer? Like just get on his back. He's going to paddle you out and then he climb on his shoulders and he's going to surf you in and oh by the way don't get your hair wet

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America's most beloved tea brand since 1871, which is wild. The one that we're drinking here is the green tea with lemon in it. It's really nice, especially if you love lemon. You can have it hot like we like during the podcast, or you can have it iced. Have a nice pitcher of iced tea waiting at the door for your significant other. They'll love it. Trust me. Try some of this delicious Lipton green tea today. Cheers.

When I get bloated, let me tell you, I reach for Array, my bloat capsules. I've been taking these for like four years. I love taking them after a meal that's heavy. So we were in Italy and I was doing a lot of pizza and pasta and I had my Array. I had people, I was like on a boat and I had my friends asking me for Array the entire stay. They were like, can I get that bloat capsule that you have? Anyway, they just launched the most incredible thing ever. It's MB1. And basically, this is a blend of herbs that work together to support your metabolism. I harassed the founders because they told me they were launching this a long time ago. And I was like, you have to get me the first bottle. They did. I love it. So what you do is you take two capsules in the morning before your workout.

And what they want you to do is take it daily for three months. So you can really see the results. And essentially it just really increases your energy level and curbs your cravings, which is amazing. It has African mango seed in it. This supports healthy weight management. It has like a probiotic, a green tea extract, even B6, which reduces water retention. Go to Array.com and use code SKINNY at checkout. You receive 15% off and four free bloat travel packs with your first purchase or auto ship. So what I would recommend is try out the metabolism support. I think you guys will love it. I'm someone who is still in the process slowly of tightening up. I have about 10 pounds to go to

get my goal weight. But if you're more into targeting bloat, check out their bloat capsule. That's array.com code skinny. Sometimes I like people to repeat back what they said to me when it's so wacky and you're just like, repeat what you said. It's like, actually show me. It's genius because then they can't show you. No. Because it's psycho. No, exactly.

And it would, I mean, even if I was willing to try, there was no way that my hair wasn't going to be a complete soaking mess afterwards. I bet it was a man that asked you to do that. Maybe a woman though. I mean, the photographer was a man, but I don't know who like schemed it up. It could have been the stylist who was a woman. You never know. What point did you realize that you wanted to create a business? Is this later on? And how did you even start to conceptualize it? As I mentioned before, like the first kind of foray into doing my own thing, something that I was passionate about was doing my exercise video. And, you know, so many people

at the time, I had started working out with a trainer. So many people were asking me, well, what do you do for workout? And, you know, the only video, the big video before that was Jane Fonda, which was amazing, but it was like not my generation. my mom used to do that all the time the jay fonda one the one where you did the step yeah good right and so i had this idea to kind of share my workouts with my trainer with i was you know keep my sisters and my mom and my girlfriends and mine so did the video produced it you know worked, of course, but it was my idea, my thing, hired the director, and it ended up being really successful. Well, when you have that happen, that empowers you to go, hmm, okay. So then I did a makeup book. And then when I was 35, it wasn't so much that I wanted to start my own business or my own product line, but I had been with Revlon a long time and I was like, I just was ready. My contract was up for renewal and I just knew that I wanted

to do something different. It was like, this is my time. If I'm going to do my own thing, this is my time. So I knew I didn't want to do skincare because I'm not a makeup artist. I mean, I didn't want to do makeup. I wanted to do skincare because as a model, my job most of the time is I just sit in the chair and someone else does my makeup. Yeah. But my job was to take care of my skin. And that's what I was really passionate about. And I had this relationship with Dr. Sabah in Paris who'd been taking care of my skin. And he really helped me think about aging in a way that I think was mentally helpful for me because he calls it

just like age maintenance, you know, and he loves women. He loves the way women look without makeup. Like he's, he wants you to feel good in your skin so you don't feel like you have to cover it up with makeup. So he and I partnered and we started Meaningful Beauty. And the whole idea behind that was just like each and every product be meaningful, have, get results, be efficacious. What's the first product you launched with? Well, we launched with a kit because we started as an infomercial business. So you sell like the system and what is a system? Like a cleanser, a day cream, a night cream, an eye cream. But really, I think, and again, it doesn't sound revolutionary now, but we had a serum was kind of like our super product, right? And at that time,

a lot of American women weren't really using serums and didn't really understand serums. So it took a certain amount of education to help women understand why that extra step is worth it so at this point are you on the infomercial as you launched do you have like a launch strategy do you remember that okay so we started i remember i was pregnant when i signed the deal and we it's 2001 and i think yeah in 2024 we launched so in that three years, we did develop the products, design the packaging, shot an infomercial, and then it first aired in 2004, whatever you call that. And the thing about doing, especially, well, any direct-to-consumer is you measure everything. You get results very quickly. It's not like running an ad in a magazine. You don't know what sales are attributed to that.

But if you give a special 800 number for that viewing, you know exactly how many people called from that. So it's a great way to reshape your messaging and understand like, oh, this is resonating with people. This isn't resonating with people. So when we launched in 2004 in 04 we were able to see oh like what works and and of course like we didn't get it all right the first time out right so we did some editing and the products were the products but it was like

really taking the time to educate our consumer about why us why why give meaningful beauty a try and that is honestly why i chose infomercial because you know to compete in vogue with a one-page ad against the estee lauders and the lancombes of the world is it's like that's a very crowded market but having 30 minutes to tell this very organic and authentic story of my relationship with Dr. Sabah, introducing Dr. Sabah, introducing these, I mean, now everyone calls them the melons, but it's really, there's a super antioxidant in the special melon that's in the South of France. It's called superoxide dismutase. And it was like the serums was the best way to get that antioxidant into your skin. This is revolutionary though, to me, if you think about it, because first of all, you did a kit,

which now we look at like Kylie Jenner, who did her kit years and years later. The serum, you're right. I don't remember like 20 years ago, there was not that on the market. And you were also given 30 minutes to talk, which is like you're saying that's unique for a model. At this time, they would call it a creator-driven, right? But now it's somebody who took a platform and then used the power of that platform to go and build a business. When you launched it, I would imagine when they're able to call an 800 number, you saw immediate success. Yeah. Okay. So I measure business in like singles baseball analogies singles doubles triples and home runs right and you want everything to be a home run okay but I'm happy if I get on base that means I have I still have an opportunity to score so like when we first

launched because I at the time also infomercial were very, they didn't have a good reputation. So, like, my modeling agency, a lot of people in my life were not that excited that I went to go with Guthrie Ranker and do an infomercial. That it, like, diminished your platform? Yeah, that it, like, could possibly cheapen my brand. But I knew why I was doing it, and I also was a full partner in the brand. So there was so many reasons why to me, it made total sense. So I decided to do that, but I wouldn't say we were a hundred. We didn't get a home run right out of the gate, but we definitely got a single and then maybe a double and then like a triple. And then we rejiggered stuff.

And I mean, I am very happy getting on base. And the fact that when I started that, I thought maybe five years, 10 years, and now we're celebrating 20 years. And we've had over 5 million customers over those 20 years. It's just been, I can't walk through an airport, a school, and a parking lot without someone saying, oh my God, I love your serum or I love your night cream. And we did an event two months ago here in LA with some of our customers from, because I'm really trying to put the focus now, not so much on me and our, and our, like our other celebrity endorsers, but really on, I call them meaningful beauties, but you know, the women who really love meaningful beauty and they've used it.

So we had about 40 women there from age 30 to 80. And some of them have been using the products since we first launched. So cool. And they're the best testimonials, even better than me, because like this one woman was saying that like, I guess I think she was widowed and she started using the product and she went to the grocery store and the checkout girl was like, wow, your skin looks so beautiful. And she started crying when she told the story because she said no one had told her she looked beautiful for so long.

And just to have how empowering that was for her. And that's what I love about meaningful beauty, really. It's like how, and you know this, and I'm sure men too, but like when we feel like we look good or we're taking care of ourselves, just have like a little bit more confidence in ourselves. Like it's kind of like, okay, now I can go conquer the world. When a model or a supermodel comes to you now and asks you, you know, how to be more multidimensional, what's the advice that you give? Because it sounds like, like, yes,

you've had this incredible modeling career, but you've added a lot of layers to it. Yeah. I don't know if you can, like, try to do that. Yeah. I kind of feel like, I guess my advice would be, be authentic. Like your passion what's exciting to you like when I did my exercise video I was like in love with that workout and with Redu and how it changed my body and how it made me feel strong and empowered when I did meaningful beauty I really you know like Dr. Sabah is like my guy you know he helped me feel great about my skin and about as great as you can about the prospect of aging because it's happening you know whether you want it to or not so it's like i don't even like

saying like fighting aging like that's that's language that's in the beauty business is a lot is like anti-aging and like fight aging and it's negative it's yeah it's like yeah why first of all if you can show me how to anti-age i mean mean, maybe like some of these biohacker guys. We should have invited you to this dinner we just did. But in the end, we're still aging, right? We can maybe slow it down or we can maybe, you know, one of the things that I like about Dr. Peter Attio, who I know you know, one of the things that he says is you want your lifespan and your health span to line up. So if you're going to live till 90, you want at least like 89 and a half of those years to be good. You don't want to live to 100 but be in a wheelchair for 15 years or whatever. You want to try to be as healthy as you can.

And I think part of being healthy is mental health. And part of mental health is feeling like you're taking care of yourself and feeling like you know it sometimes seems shallow but i see how empowering it is for women and i'm not trying to be exclude men but like when we feel good about ourselves i think we we just have so much more confidence so much more to offer we speak up we raise our hand we volunteer whatever it is you know we're not hiding in the shadows. It makes total sense. Michael has a 10 step skincare routine. So Michael's hair takes longer to do than mine. Michael's shaking his head. No, you got a whole thing going on. It's because I get to sit with so many smart people on this show explaining all

this stuff to me. When I first started doing it, I was like, what are you talking about? It's like a moisturizer or whatever was in the shower, whatever was in there. But now I hear it, I'm like, oh, it makes sense. And I just look at it like brushing teeth. Yeah, why not? And you know what? I think some of it, of course, there's so many great products now with real efficacious ingredients that will make a difference. It's not like our mother's creams that it was just like maybe just putting a little superficial moisturizer on your skin. There's ingredients that actually really do like, you know, peptides and all this stuff that really will help your skin age better. And it's also that self-love that goes along with it. Like taking that time to like

care for yourself. I also think that is good for you. It's therapeutic. What are the things you're doing now? Because before you came in, we were talking kind of about this like health and wellness world. Yeah. Like what did you eat for breakfast this morning? I actually had a, well, I had a bullet, they call it primal coffee. I have from our friend Khalil. We love you, Khalil. Oh, he's going to play that over and over.

Okay, I better get free smoothies now for the rest of my life, Khalil. Okay. No, I had, and then I get the million dollar smoothie. Have you ever had that one? Yeah, it's really good. It's so good. And especially when I know I have a busy day, I can have that. And I kind of know that that will, that can take me through the day if I don't get a chance to eat.

But normally I have, if I'm at home, I'll have like, I kind of do a little bit of intermittent fasting, I guess. I don't usually have breakfast till 10. I usually work out before breakfast. What do you break your fast with? I make my own shake. Okay. Yeah. What's the Cindy Crawford shake?

Well, currently it does change. Okay. Like someone just told me flax seeds are not great now. I thought they were good for blood pressure. And for fiber. But then I heard it's also bad for testosterone too. I don't know what to do anymore. Yeah, I know.

That's the thing. But so my current one has coconut milk, a quarter of a banana, because I was told like that too much. Otherwise, it's too much sugar, handful of spinach, mint. And then I put like collagen, protein powder, cacao, flax up until yesterday. I'm done with the flax too. Hemp, hemp seeds I put on the top and maca. And then when you have that shake, what is the next thing that you like to eat? Are you reaching for protein? Are you a vegan, vegetarian? No, I'm not. No, I pretty much eat everything. I don't eat a lot of gluten just because I don't feel great. I mean, look, I love a bowl of pasta. I can eat it in Europe and feel great. But when I eat it here, I don't feel great. I mean, look, I love a bowl of pasta. I can eat it in Europe and feel great,

but when I eat it here, I don't feel so good. Don't eat a lot of bread, but I'll have like a salad with protein for lunch usually. And then at dinner, protein and veggies and something like that. Are you doing any of this alternative stuff like NAD or peptides? Have you experimented with any of that?

I have tried NAD. The shot or the IV? The shot. The subcute though. I can't go IM. Do you? Michael does the thing. Do you do the IV? Does it like wrench your gut out? Yeah, that's what I heard. Now I'm kind of I did it for a while and I feel like I got

topped off. Have you seen those patches? Yeah, I've seen those. I think it's called like my husband does the patches. We just put it on. Yeah. Does those patches? Yeah, I've seen those. I think it's called like, my husband does the patches. Where you just put it on. Yeah. Does that hurt? I didn't do it.

I just see my, because my husband, my husband's like squeamish of me. If she told me if I wear one of those patches, she won't come near me. No, I don't want to touch it.

She's like super squeamish. But he puts it on in the morning and takes it off it. He doesn't sleep in it. I don't think I can do it with the patch. No, you don't have to.

But it's not, it's not the thing that distributes the. No, it's not pokey patch no she's saying it's a patch that lays literally like this bit it's like oh i didn't know no i thought you were talking about that i thought that's not a bad idea the patch and apparently it it's like very absorbable i don't i haven't tried it yet we got it from another friend of ours who's one of these you know we do do infrared sauna i've been doing that for like 15 years though dry brushing i'm obsessed with oh we gotta get you a dry brush i dry brush every morning that's the first thing i do when i well okay do you do you tell us do you tongue

scrape yes oh my gosh we don't do cauliflower tongue in this room sorry guys anyone that has a cauliflower tongue's gotta go isn't it like now they didn't check your tongue at the door that's funny okay that's my first thing tongue scrape then i do dry brushing then i do oil like with lymphatic like do my own little lymphatic drainage with oil then i do gua sha on the face then i go down and i go outside pretty much every morning and take a jacuzzi and I walk in the grass. I'm grounding myself. Do you do all the stuff? Yeah.

You do all the stuff. I mean, I don't, but I'm not like the hard, hard cord, like. You get it when you can. Well, yeah. Like I haven't done like the NADIV yet. I know that's not hard. I mean, by the way. It is hard.

It is. I mean, it's. Yeah. The stomach is like. It's not hard. I mean, there's a people are, some people are listening, but it's not that hard, but no, it's, it's uncomfortable. Yeah.

Do you meditate? I have taken meditation, like my husband and I took like, what is it, TM, right? I liked it. So I feel like I know how to be in that space when I want to be. It's just, no, I just can't figure it out on a daily basis so I have this thing do you know what a rosh is it's like a we anyway it's it's almost like a pimp mat or something like you know how those energy mats now so just think of that you could do it on one of those I just lay on that put eye shades on do some breathing if I fall asleep great if not I'll put a podcast on or something like that but I do unless my day does not allow it i do try to find like that 20 to 30 minutes where i'm like unplugging from my not doing just being

yeah i also think it's probably meditative for you to go in your jacuzzi outside and ground like there's i think what gabby bernstein said once, she said, I said, do you meditate? And she said, I meditate all throughout the day. So she's like, I'll find a minute here and two minutes here and five minutes here. And she's just meditating all day throughout the day, wherever it makes sense. And really isn't meditation just about being present?

Yeah. And so like, I feel like my, and I actually, I did something a long time ago where I said, one of my things is like, you can't multitask presence, right? So like, that has been an important lesson for me is like, if I'm here with you guys, like my phone's away, I'm not thinking about what's next. Like, let's just do this and have, make this be as great as it can be. And then when this is over, it's like, I'll be present in whatever that next moment is.

What is the key to having a successful marriage, kids, two kids, and also running the massive businesses that you guys run? Sometimes I feel like kind of together, right? Well, recently we partnered on Casamigas, which is a spicy Blanco. Because Randy's had Casamigos for over 10 years, I guess now. But I like skinny,

spicy margaritas. And we just one day were like, wouldn't it be fun to do Casamigos with a spicy flavor profile? Oh, it'd be funny. Let's Casamigos. And then Randy designed the bottle where I'm crossing out his name and George's name and whatever. So we launched Casamigos and it's been fun. And it's like, I love it because it just has like a nice little spice to it with a club soda but other than that we definitely are in other than building houses together we are in our own silos but we do respect each other's opinion like I often will show him something or he'll show me something what do you think about this or help me read a email he's writing or you know whatever so I think probably like most married couples. Balancing.

Look, we just celebrated 26 years married. Congratulations. Thank you. Yes. I hate saying it's work first, but I think that our society does a really bad job of setting people up for successful marriages because we think, oh, if everything's not perfect, maybe you're not my person, right?

And that's just not real. Like, you can be with your person and go through hard stuff. And sometimes it's stuff from the external world putting pressure on you. Sometimes it's stuff, one person's going through something, you know, whatever. And then sometimes it's the kids kids is kids is wow a lot of work i have some selfish questions to ask you about kids in a minute but it's funny you say all this we do you know jay shetty are you familiar with yeah of course he was here yesterday we were talking about this very thing in marriage where it's like

people are so set up like if it doesn't check every box all the time it's like quick to throw it away and right ruin a good thing because it's like one little thing's off. But the funny thing is the grass isn't greener. There's problems on the other side of the grass too. So you've got to pick which problems you want because there's going to be problems. I don't have any energy for any more grass at this point. No, I've given you enough grass. We have talked so much about protecting your kids from the sun. I just did a whole episode on it,

and we talked about sunscreen and the one that I like. And there is this brand called Sunbum. I've talked about it before. I personally love, love, love the spray because it's so easy. It's just easy to get the sunscreen on my kids. And essentially, Sunbum's kid sunscreen line is made up to keep up with the most adventurous kids. My essentially, Sunbum's kid sunscreen line is made up to keep up with the most adventurous kids. My kids are adventurous. This is so easy to just spray it on them before they get in the pool or before they go outside. Obviously, we're all trying to push our kids to get away from screens and get outside this summer because outside is it. And Sunbum will help protect your kids. So basically, the line comes with a spray, a lotion, and a stick format. Like I said, I love the spray. I'm ride or die for the spray. It's

just too easy and saves me time. And the kids like it. It's like a whole thing. Each product has SPF 50. It's a clear formula, which is so nice. So it's not like sticky white everywhere. And it's water resistance, meaning you can put it on wet or dry skin. This is huge for me. Their line is vegan, cruelty-free, paraben-free, and Hawaii Reef 101 Act compliant. It's made without octonautate and oxybenzone. Outside is in and they've got the kids covered. Get the spray if you have kids. Trust me, you will thank me later. SPF 50. Use one-time code SKINNY at checkout for 15% off your purchase at sunbum.com. That's sunbum.com ends December 31st, 2024. One thing that I make with my daughter, who is a baker all the time, is a pumpkin roll.

My mom actually gave me the recipe. We made it together when I was a little girl. And there is one ingredient that you cannot mess around with, and it's the cream cheese. And the cream cheese that I use in it is Philadelphia cream cheese. If there's anyone that knows creamy, it's Philadelphia cream cheese. It's extremely versatile and can be used to enhance any meal, snack, or anything in between. Philadelphia makes everything creamier. And how do I know? Because it makes my pumpkin roll creamier. My kids love it. We do a cream cheese frosting. If you've never tried cream cheese frosting with Philadelphia cream cheese, you are missing out on such a big part of life. There's like a powdered sugar in it. It's the perfect consistency.

You just like mix it up. It's so good on a pumpkin cake or a banana cake. It's honestly my favorite frosting. One of my favorite ways to use Philadelphia cream cheese though, you guys have to try this, is you take like a cracker, like a great almond cracker maybe, maybe like a tortilla chip, and then you put the Philadelphia cream cheese on the chip or the cracker. And then you put some lox on top with a little bit of red onion, like crunchy red onion. And you add capers and a little bit of tomato slices, and then tons of lemon. Oh my God. Thank me later. It's the best snack. You got to try it. Philadelphia makes everything creamier. Visit creamcheese.com for recipe inspiration and so you can start adding Philadelphia in your recipes at home. Visit creamcheese.com. Recently, we had the pleasure of going to the Omni Hotel in Austin

and using ResortPass. It was such a blast. The kids loved it so much. It was the most family-oriented experience that I've had in Austin. So what ResortPass is, is it provides exclusive day passes to luxury hotel pools, cabanas, and spas without needing to stay overnight. Resort Pass partners with over 1,300 of the world's best hotels, and some day passes start as low as like $25. So what we did is we went to the Omni, like I said, we walked in, the kids played in the little water fountain. It was so cute. They absolutely loved it. Then we went to our cabana, We got a fruit plate. We got lemonades for the kids. We got a burger and fries and we just sat in the shaded cabana. It was so nice and relaxing and the kids used the pool. They loved it. It was a great experience. I would

highly recommend it. I would definitely check out where Resort Pass is available in your town. So you can go to these luxury hotels or pools and use their cabana and spas without having to stay overnight. If you're looking for some time to reconnect or recharge, I actually even turned my phone on airplane mode so I could just read my Kindle and chill. And it was just a really nice reset. Michael also loved it too. It's such a secret. Resort Pass. Check it out. Trust me. Pro tip. Visit resortpass.com slash skinny to get $20 off your first Resort Pass experience. Resortpass.com slash skinny.

I mentioned we have a four-year-old and a two-year-old. And Lauren and I were fortunate that by the time we got out of college, we didn't have kind of these, Instagram didn't exist. We went through all of our childhood without all this and college years. But we think about it now. How do you think about this in relation to parenting and everything that you've kind of known and seen? I feel so bad for you guys to have to make that decision because honestly, my kids didn't have smartphones until they were in their late teens. Like they just kind of miss that where they grew up with it in their hand.

And by the way. How old are they? My son's turning 25. My daughter's 22. So I didn't also have it. So when I was at the playground with them, I wasn't sitting on the bench scrolling. I mean, I see. It's so like we're all addicted to it.

It's not just the kids, right? I mean, but they're in their formative, more formative year. So I feel bad that you guys are going to like. I have friends who have young kids, too. Maybe not like the ones I'm thinking about. Their kids are more like 13 and 10. And they're like, like when their daughter has her phone, she is not part of the family.

They literally have to take her phone away to get her to be present. It's just so... I think that generation, actually, the one you're describing, between us, is going to have a harder time because they're the ones that have to go through all this chaos first. I almost feel like we are going to watch that generation and how they navigate what she's saying you'll benefit from it that that our kids our four-year-olds our two-year-olds watching us on the phone and you're right we are all but you get what i'm saying it's like they're the first guinea pig to go and raise children with this kind of technology because your generation of parents

will maybe hopefully parents will get more in alignment too, because also like, you know, remember, I'm sure like, I remember the one girl in my class in like seventh grade who didn't have a TV, right? And she, like, we all thought that's so weird, and you don't want to be, like, you don't want your kid to be the one weird kid, right? But, so, like

hopefully what I'm seeing happening more is like parents starting to all agree, like, if there's like a little friend group, hey guys, let's, everyone like hopefully what I'm seeing happening more is like parents starting to all agree. Like if there's like a little friend group, Hey guys, let's everyone take their phones away during the week. Or, but you, you, you can't, you, you need the community. And that's why like parenting is not just like the nuclear family, right? It's like, it's your community, it's your teachers, it's everyone agreeing. Like, how are we going to do this because i agree with what you said before this generation has just like we didn't know like don't hand it to them to play with when you're in

a restaurant realize what it's doing because like i mean look it's tempting like if you're at a restaurant and you want your kid to sit still it's very tempting to put on like blues what is that wait something i was like there's something. No, she's saying blues clues. Blues clues. That's what I was saying. Yeah. And then, cause you get to enjoy your dinner,

but is that, is that a short term fix that's going to screw you up for the longterm? Right? Like we use it as a pacifier now, right? Yeah. I don't know what the answer is. What I try to do is I do think it's important to bring your kids out to

dinner because i think that they need to see that it's not always about them i totally know what i mean like i think they need to see adult conversation what i've tried to do is i've tried to give her a game but it's on an ipad so at least it's a brain game yeah i don't know if that makes me feel better it's the kids that are sitting there at dinner that I see with the headphones on. And they're literally like, they are so in the zone. And the mom's like shoving food in their mouth, but they don't even connect that they're eating. Yeah, that's not good. I think that's dangerous.

Sometimes I'll go and speak on just different events. And one of the things I talk about with this, I always have to say, you have to decide if you're a consumer or if this is a tool in your life. And if you're just a consumer mindlessly consuming and scrolling, that's dangerous. But if you can, and I think about this in relation to our children, Lauren and I grew up and have used this as a tool for a lot of things. We've obviously all been guilty of it being consumers, but I want my children to understand the difference between the two, because I don't think some parents have that context, especially if this is not your world and right engage you don't want to end up in the place

where it's like 99 consumption as opposed to like you're using this to like for a means right right to an end no I like the way you frame that a lot what is the Cindy Crawford margarita with the spicy tequila like is there a certain recipe that we need to be trying? Oh gosh, I have to, Randy is in charge of drink making at our house. But honestly, why I like the Casamigas now is that I don't want the sugar, right? So if I just drink the spicy Casamigas, which is, Casamigas is spicy, on the rocks or with a splash of soda, it's like you could, I guess, put a little bit of lime in there too but that would be like the ultra skinny margarita because there's no sugar because most margaritas have like simple syrup or a little orange juice or whatever and i know for me like if i if i want to feel good in the morning it's like stay away from the sugar yeah i'm gonna try

that i love spicy oh you'll love it because the other thing that I didn't realize, and we took it to our friend's kid got married. And so we took some Casamigos there and all the women were drinking it and the guys too. But like your breath smells good because it has like a, you know, it's like it doesn't, you're not have like a boozy breath. You have like a little, it's almost like instead of mint, it's like a little jalapeno. The spice makes the breath smell good. Yeah.

I know some people that could be drinking that too and they go out. Taylor, I'm going to give you some of that. That's not a bad idea. Taylor, we're going to get you some Casamigos after this. How have you instilled tools to your daughter who is going on to now become her own superstar in her own right?

What are the tools that you've given her? Wow, it's funny because people do ask me and I'm like, honestly, become her own superstar in her own right? What are the tools that you've given her? Wow. It's funny because people do ask me and I'm like, honestly, the advice that I give Kaya is the same advice I gave my son for his very first job, which was at Khalil's smoothie shop,

which was beyond time. He's told us 18... I didn't know that. No, I helped the star of this. Sun Life Organics, everyone. If you're drinking smoothies from anywhere else, you don't know what you're doing in life. What was the advice you gave him to work at Sun Life? Be on everyone. If you're drinking smoothies from anywhere else, you don't know what you're doing in life. What was the advice you gave him to work at Sun Life?

Be on time. Okay. Be prepared. And stay off your phone. And like be engaged. Like if you have, and especially for Kaya, and Presley did some modeling,

but like Kaya, it's very tempting like when you're sitting in that makeup chair to like be scrolling. But some of your best like some of my best friends in the industry were hair and makeup people if I hadn't looked up for my phone first of all you make their job harder when you're when your eyes are looking down like getting your makeup done is actually like you can just be passive and or you can actually help them do their job better and I'm I'm I try to do that but also you're maybe missing an opportunity to make a

friend and so like I do see like it shows now like well I used to bring a book but at least a book like a book doesn't suck you in like if someone says your name you still hear it but like if you're on your phone or or on earbuds like in a group of people you're not even in the group of people you love to read we both love to read well what are you reading what do you what have you loved that you've read gosh what am i reading right now you know when you read on a kindle you actually bounce around don't know but you don't ever know the title i know i just read someone asked me what i was reading and i had to look it up i know i'd have to read it to read um i usually have like two books going at a time i'll have like

kind of more i love historical fiction or just woman after my own heart okay or like fiction by women i you know or women's stories of course i like a lot and i'm actually reading a really good one right now and i wish i could remember the name of it then i'll usually have like you know like i'm listening to gabor mate is that how i'm i don't know what that is what is that he's a canadian isn't he a therapist or yeah yeah and he he has a really good stuff on children a lot of stuff on children and on like trauma and on he just heal healing i do know it's the older man that always says the most profound things on instagram i know exactly who who you're... I actually reached out to him to come on the show. Yeah, he would be great.

He's so smart. Yeah. I didn't realize he had a book. I just see his content. I think it's called The Myth of Normal is the one I'm listening to right now. That one I can see because it's on my phone. But the one on my Kindle, I can't even remember. So I'll have a fun escape book and then one that's a little more like challenging my brain to try to

learn it's funny because after watching palm royale i went and found the book oh yeah that it was based after miss american it's so cute like that it's really good i just finished it and that's all from palm royale i didn't you love i mean of course i watched palm royale because my daughter's in it and i was so excited for her and for her to get to work with like Carol Burnett and Laura Dern and Ricky Martin and Kristen Wiig is wild

brilliant I gotta watch that you watch it without me but what's I loved the styling so cute the sets

the hair the makeup I mean it's really it's fun and I mean well it starts out fun and then it gets a little dark yeah

but the thing I love about it is there's so much you know we tend to watch a lot of documentaries or like that what was the like the ashley madison documentary or whatever there's so much it is but there's like so much dark stuff right now that sometimes like same with my historical fiction or whatever i just need i need like a break and i think that palm royale was a great like it was like fun to watch not that it was always fun because it does take some i get what it was i i for me to sit and watch a show like full without him like it there was a lot of different elements of it it's good right i've been trying to get lauren to read a lot more historical fiction because i just think michael

loves like what do you love i love it i mean i like to go i just finished a series on the war of the roses there's an author by connie golden just finished a series on the War of the Roses. There's an author by Connie Golden. He wrote a series on Genghis Khan and Julius Caesar. You like that one. Yeah. But I like reading it because anytime I start to feel sorry for myself, I read about what people went through in past periods.

I'm like, oh, actually it's not that bad. Did you watch Shogun? Shogun by James Clavel is my favorite. That's his favorite book. No, but did you just watch? I watched it. But talk about like you're like okay we because everyone's like walking around right now the world is like

fall and then you're like whoa no that like people were getting like literally boiled in pots of like if taylor was late to the recording i would make him cut his belly open back oh yeah when they were all like uh-huh yeah i cannot believe she just asked you about that because that is his favorite book and his favorite show. But Stadhofer wrote about that book. And then he later wrote a book called Taipan, which is about the founding of Hong Kong. I think my dad had that book. And James Clavel, yeah. Yeah.

I heard one of the coolest, like, there's like cool, this is a cool moment for me talking to you. But one time that author's granddaughter wrote a message and saying, oh my God, I can't believe you heard me talking about my grandfather. And I was like, those are the moments that I get fired up about. I'm like, yes. But no, I'd like that because I don't know. I think we live in a time, you said there's a lot of dark stuff, but people don't realize how far we've come and how dark it really used to be. Right? It was, human beings have gone through some shit.

Yeah. Unfortunately though, I feel like back to like our phones and social media, it's like there should be a tool for bringing closer together people closer together. And I think in some ways they are, but they've also like allowed people to like be in their own echo chamber and be farther apart and like and almost amplifying these two sides, whereas I think most people probably have more, way more in common than they do apart. But what's being fed to us through the algorithms makes it look like you're either here or here and the other side is bad. Yeah. I think from a creative standpoint, it's funny. We'll have somebody that's, I guess, quote unquote, known to be on the left or known to be on the right. And both, anytime that we do that, both sides yell at us. And I always say like the easiest, lowest hanging fruit to build attention online, if we wanted to do that, is to just pander to one side aggressively. Having nuanced conversation is much harder to do. It's much

harder to get people to pay attention to. It's much harder to stand out and quote unquote go viral. But to me, that's like way more interesting than just going on and screaming on one side or the other. And more of a life skill, by the way, like you want to be able to sit down at lunch and have a conversation with someone who, because to me, I'm like, oh, wow, you think so differently than me. Will you explain that to me? Like, why not be curious?

Why judge? Like judgment is just, it's not helping. But if you're curious, you might actually learn something. Or you might go, no, I'm even more, that even made me more firm in my beliefs. But like, I'm not so fragile in my beliefs that I can't handle someone disagreeing with me. I keep saying this story about a publication the other day asking me, like, do I feel responsible to behave a certain way? I'm like,? People have to take ownership of their own thoughts and their own life. And if you don't like something, it's okay to turn the channel why they think the way they do in long form content and everyone we've had on you you're like even if you don't agree oh that makes sense right like you can see how people would come to that conclusion right it just wasn't like a random thought that

occurred to them it was like this thought building on this thought or this incident or whatever or their upbringing or they're like their parents i think the audience might kill me if i don't ask cindy crawford about her workout routine i think that people would just kill me do you do weights pilates what are you doing currently i do um pilates twice a week on a reformer which i love and that i've only been doing that for the last 10 years and i have to say like even because i sometimes get lower back stuff and even if my back's hurting I can do Pilates because I can modify it and I've never gotten hurt doing Pilates like it's and I just I think I mean I know it can be really really hard too but I find it very I don't know I just feel like

opening opening and feminine in a way uh-huh and then I have a trainer that I work with twice a week and hers is more like old school like I did with Radu it's like free weights lunges you know push-ups running stairs like that kind of stuff and then once in a while I'll do like a hike with a friend as kind of like therapy slash workout yeah you kill two birds yeah exactly the best so it sounds like you're regimented with what you do each week, but you're not like working out every single day. No, I probably work out like four or five days a week. And then if I get an extra one in or extra hike or a chance to swim or something like

that, that's just great. I really, I was talking about this this morning. I try to be 80% good 80% of the time. And that includes food, but that also includes working out. Like for instance, we're going, my husband and I are going, actually we're going to Bali this week, which is super cool. But my godson's graduating from high school there. So we're going for graduation. And I was like, am I really? Like, I'm not going to, like, I probably won't work out for that week. You know, I'll probably walk. And I don't stress about it. I'm not like, oh my God, I didn't work out for a week. I got to work

out twice as hard the week before. I just know it's the long game. It's the consistency. Like, you don't work out for one week and be like, okay, that's good. I'm good. You know? So, I know that when I come back, I'll get back into my routine. You know? I love it. I have the Cindy Crawford smoothie. I have the Cindy Crawford jalapeno margarita with the soda water with a little bit of lime that I'm going to try. Where can everyone shop Meaningful Beauty? Where can they get the melon serum?

That sounds amazing. Right. And where can they find your new jalapeno tequila? Okay. Well, the Casamigos is easy because that's like pretty much any liquor store or wherever they serve Casamigos. Meaningful Beauty is also the best place to buy is through us on our website. Or if you want to buy on Amazon, we have a storefront in Amazon. And the great thing is like, you know, the business has changed so much from direct.

We've always been direct to consumer, but we were strictly like only kits. But now like people we've had to evolve as the way the consumer wants to buy evolve. So you can just buy singles like on Amazon or even on our website. So, yeah, I would say that the website has the nicest presentation of it. But like some people love to buy on Amazon. So where can everyone find you? I'm sure they already follow you. But tell us if they want to say hi, ask a question about meaningful beauty So where can everyone find you? I'm sure they already follow you, but tell us if they want to say hi, ask you a question about meaningful beauty,

where can they find you? Yeah. I mean, probably the best way is through Instagram. That's probably, I mean, I do have Twitter and TikTok, but I don't actually, like I am more of an Instagram girl. That was the first one I understood. Like Twitter, I was like, what is this? 180 characters. Yeah, I know. Facebook also, I was like, I don't? 180 characters. X now. Yeah, I know. X. Facebook. Also, I was like, I don't want people coming out of the woodwork that I went to elementary school with. But Instagram, I was like, oh, it's pictures. I get this. I get pictures. So Instagram, I'm the most personally active on. And then sometimes some of that stuff gets filtered out through the other channels. Cindy Crawford, you're amazing. So inspiring. Thank you so much for doing this. Come back anytime. Next time, you got to bring this tequila.

We got to have margarita. Next time I'm bringing tequila. I'm sending some over here too, for sure. Khalil, a million dollar smoothie. Give it to Cindy for free for life. Thank you. Go shop all of Cindy's favorite products on meaningfulbeauty.com

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