The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Damon Lawner - True Hollywood Sex Clubs, Parties, & Advice For Better Sex

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

#714: Today we're sitting down for an X-rated episode with Damon Lawner. Damon is the founder of the “world’s most elite sex club” based in Los Angeles. We have an in-depth conversation about how to elevate your sex life, what you can expect at one of his parties, and how to connect with your partner on a deeper level. We also discuss the importance of foreplay, he gives tips for the best sex of your life, and shares his POV on love, connection, and finding the beautiful parts of a difficult life. To connect with Damon Lawner click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is brought to you by Caraway Ditch the chemicals with Caraway. Visit carawayhome.com/HIMANDHER to receive 10% off your next purchase. This episode is brought to you by Rhoback Activewear Use code SKINNY at rhoback.com for 20% off your first order until the end of this week. This episode is brought to you by Pvolve Try Pvolve at www.pvolve.com/skinny with code SKINNY for 20% off sitewide This episode is brought to you by Jaspr Visit jaspr.co and use code SKINNY for 10% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Sunday Lawn Care Sunday is available at Target, Walmart, and Lowe’s stores nationwide. Use code SKINNY20 for 20% off your custom lawn plan on getsunday.com This episode is brought to you by Primally Pure If you're tired of discomfort during your menstrual cycle, try the Cycle Soothing Spray from Primally Pure at primallypure.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY for 15% off your order. Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. goes all over the place. So I want to put the disclaimer out there right now. This is an XXXXX rated podcast. Turn it off now if those conversations make you uncomfortable, if you're just getting out of church, whatever the hell you're doing. This one is not for you if you do not like aggressive sex conversations. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. When people have sex in front of you, it allows you to be a little bit more open, a little more free. You feel

like sex is okay. When you see someone having sex, it can maybe be a little uncomfortable if you've never seen it. So once the people on the stage start to have sex, the lights turn red. So now it's like, okay, we can do this if we want. We can start to do this if we want. There's some people that are just right quick to the punch. They are ready to go. You know, some girl is just, she's unzipping her partner's pants and she's got his dick in her mouth. The show's still going.

We're open to everything. You know what's inappropriate, Michael? What, Lauren? This episode. When this one came across my desk, I was like, fuck yes. Okay. Damon is the founder of the world's most elite sex club that's based in Los Angeles. This is like a high end elevated lucrative sex club. And when I realized that I got to get my hands on him, I was very excited. This is an X-rated episode. We talk about what makes good

sex, the importance of spiritual connection, his experience about being a cheater, why he began a sex club, his childhood, which is wild, the behind the scenes of the sex party, and blowjob tips. So if you're someone that wants to listen with an open mind and you aren't squeamish about these conversations, this one is definitely interesting. It's got a lot in here. With that, Damon Launer, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. What did you just say? You are actually pretty normal. That's what you're saying. Have we begun? We're in it. We're in it. We are now. Welcome to the den.

Welcome to the show. Does it matter how close I am or it doesn't matter? Like fists apart. You know, like just around. Fists apart. Yeah. You know, I always try to give the example to some of the ladies that come on the show. I don't want to be so phallic, but just be close enough.

Show me. Show me the fists apart. Just put your mouth over the dry. Show me. Like I was like this. About that far? Yeah, like that. Just like that.

Why do you think that you're normal? Like, I wouldn't think that you would say that. If I admit my truth, it kind of, it's not always good for business necessarily. But, you know, I'm a strange person because I believe in this thing of like deep love and connection. You know, I actually believe in monogamy, you know, and I, but I'm exploring, you know, when I started this thing seven months ago, I started a new club and I was really exploring non-monogamy again, because I just got out of a six-year relationship. And it was fun and exciting and amazing. But then, you know, I don't know, 22, 23 days ago,

I'm like counting days because you know I like keep track of things for myself yeah I just I just was like you know what I think I'm going to just chill for a bit here and and wait for wait for something that I can really connect into a person that like I can really connect into because that's what makes the sex the best it's's not the, it's, you know, yeah, just, it takes it somewhere else. It adds, it adds a spiritual element to the physical of sexuality. The physical of sexuality is amazing and it feels great. Sex almost, I mean, you know, unless there's some, something going on, sex generally feels really good. And, and that, but it's the fit and that's physical, but then you add love into that and you

add connection into that and then it becomes something different like there's there's a spiritual element that happens and that feeling is what i that's like my that's my favorite thing in the entire universe i think it's also the pheromones. Like when I'm attracted to someone's pheromones, it's way better sex. Like a one night stand where you're not, even, even, I mean, God, I've learned so much about everything really at this point, but you know, like some people fit together really well and some people don't. Someone's dick could be the perfect size and the perfect shape just every fucking time in and out of the pussy. It's like they're hitting someone's G spot. It's not, it does not, it's not like an eight inch porn star dick. It could be something a lot less than that. But it just is perfect for that girl or that person. Like people match. And when people match, and in the rest of the way too,

in the smells and in all of it, yeah, that all is part of the puzzle. And then when you find that person that you really fit with, you know, then it's like transcendent, you know? But that, I don't know how many of those people we even get in our life. How have you, so when you first got into, maybe even going back, when you first got into all of this, did you think this way or was it more about non-monogamy? Well, I was in a 20 year monogamous relationship, but I was kind of,

I hate to admit that I'm an asshole, but I was cheating, you know? And over 20 years, I don't know. I mean, I probably was slept with four or five other people, maybe six other people. And it would be a night, but it would be this thing where I was like, what do I like sexually? I've been with this person my entire life. I don't even know what I'm into. And if I would try things with her, she wasn't really wanting to explore too much. It's funny because we got divorced, we have two beautiful kids, and then she ended up exploring after. And we had the funniest conversations about all of it, because things that she said she would never do with me, she was like, oh no, I like it.

And it's just so fucking funny. But anyway, you know i was with one person for a long time so so i didn't i didn't know my own sexuality and i didn't have any way to explore that really and cheating thing that doesn't work because that's just like if i would feel so guilty about it and and then hiding it and all that you can't have good sex if you're fucking cheating you know it's i don't think because your your guilt and your thoughts and all of it you can't be you can't be with a person really into them you you're somewhere else so anyway so after you know when we decided to separate I mean it was really because I had started this sex club you know sanctum and and a couple years into we were together for the first couple years but a couple years into it I was like fuck I want to explore too here like i i don't want to be married wait let me let me understand this yeah so you're married yeah and you've cheated a couple

times yeah then you start a sex club while you're married how does how does one come to their wife and say hey babe i'm gonna start a sex club like what does she say well you know she was actually pretty supportive of it believe it or not because we were or not, because we were not in a good place financially. I had lost a lot. In 2009, when the economy kind of went upside down, I went upside down with it. We went to Bali. We lived there for three years and I started to do parties and events and things. And then when I got back to LA, I didn't know what the hell I was going to do. And I was trying these different things. I was completely broke. My ex-wife and I were sleeping in her mom's kitchen. My kids were in this bedroom. We had nothing. I got a real estate license. I was applying for

jobs. I applied for a job as like a parking attendant. I mean, anything I could get. I was 46 years old. I was unemployable. I had always worked for myself. You know, I was fucked. One night I watch Eyes Wide Shut and I'm like, I've got this idea. It's a great movie. Yeah. I've got this idea. And because we were in the worst circumstance, we had nothing. She was just like, okay, okay.

So does she want to come to the parties with you or is she like you go we didn't even know what the parties were going to be hey i just knew that i had no money and i and i and i was good at doing parties and i wanted to do some kind of a party in la all my friends in la i was like can i you know does anyone have any work for me but anyone you know let me let me just use your club for a night you know i just want to let you know let me let me get use your club for a night. You know, I just want to let, you know, let me, let me get established. And no one was letting me, no one would give me, there was no openings for me whatsoever. And so I just was like, well, what can I do? And then I thought of like, okay, I'll create this secretive thing where, where like, there is no location. Cause I have no location and I'll start selling tickets and memberships. And once, and if I can do that, then I'll start selling tickets and memberships. And if I can do that, then I'll have money and I can get a location.

And so it was all just like, strangely enough, everything that I did was just about trying to survive and make it work. But it was like, it hit some nerve because no one had done it before like that. No one had done like a high-end elite kind of secretive sex party thing in 2013 so sex was always part of it though it was always like this this is gonna this is gonna be an element of these parties or was that sensual sexual i knew at my very first party i did a sex show and i knew that i knew that for whatever reason i had this idea that i would have this membership and those members would be able to watch a sex show a live sex show which i'd never seen and i'd never i didn't even know how to make that happen.

I contacted porn agencies and they were like, you know, you want people to fuck in front of guests at a party? Like, what are you talking about? Like, no, we're not going to send you people for that. And I'm like, no, it's cool. It's going to be really good. I'm going to have them all in tuxedos

and it's going to be this beautiful thing. They're like, no, you're fucking crazy and then i just put in i was i went on craigslist and i and i and i found this couple this lesbian couple and they and they put him in these bird costumes and in a birdcage and they crawled out of the birdcage and made love for there at that point there was 10 members i was able to sell like 10 memberships or eight members whatever it was and and that was my first I thought it was the first sex show I ever watched. And the audience and the people reacted to it in this way. And I was like, oh my God, this is really something.

When they're watching it, did you observe that the audience also wanted to have sex? Or was it just something... At that point, no. No. Okay. At that point, it was just like this feeling of irreverence. I think people want things to be brought out of them they don't want to feel responsible for it coming out does that make sense absolutely

it does and you're absolutely right and i think there's something about like i said your energy that allows people to be comfortable to be themselves. Like a nonjudgmental. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I love sex. I love sensuality. I love all of it so much. It's the most beautiful thing to me.

So like, I don't have any problems with it. I would have problems with anything that's not consensual. I'd have problems with someone that was, you know, I mean, I don't, you even though even though i deal with people who who are into like sex work and and and men who like that kind of a thing i don't i don't i don't think i don't like that kind of a thing i used to do some of that with sanctum i don't do that kind of stuff anymore it's it's not it's so empty it's it's it's like the antithesis of what sexuality should be and can be when you, when you, when it's about money, because, because then for a man, you're just basically paying, you're paying someone to

just what, like you're masturbating inside someone really is all you're doing. You're not, you're, there's no connection and there's nothing. So then all you're doing is really masturbating. So just masturbate, you know, like don't, you don't need to involve anyone else. But if you, if you want to like make love with somebody, then, then like, you know, really get into them and understand them and know them and feel them. And then, and then you start to have the kind of sex that, well, then you don't want to go back anywhere else. I think. Before we go any further, and this is fascinating, but before, you know, we have the thing that says raised by wolves, spiritual teachers, drug experimenters, and rock and roll record. What was your childhood like? That's funny. I wrote that a while ago. Yeah. Well, I mean, my childhood was not very pleasant. Parts of it probably are, were,

I mean, my parents, my, my mom, you know, is a poet and a very creative person, but she was insane. And my dad was a drug addict, alcoholic, but a musician. And they were very creative, but they were not good parents. And so there was abuse and there was just neglect really. And I had my first sexual experience way too young. I was six years old. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I've talked about this and I don't mind talking about it. I think it helps other people who have things that they're hiding and they feel uncomfortable about. That's why I talking about it. I think it helps other people who have things that they're hiding and they feel uncomfortable about. That's why I talk about it.

But my stepfather and my mother, I mean, this is just insanity. I mean, it's just horrible shit. But my mom and my stepfather would molest my mom's sister who was 13, this 13 year old girl. And then she would come in my room and I was a six year old boy. And she would come in and she would like give me head. You know, my dick was the size of my pinky. I'm a six-year-old boy. And she would come in and she would like give me head.

You know, my dick was the size of my pinky. I'm a six-year-old kid. And then I would go inside her. I would have sex with her. And what's strange is that the feeling, I mean, look, I mean, this is just the truth and people can deal with it or not listen to it. I don't really care.

But the feeling of it was like, like it was the most amazing feeling i'd ever felt and and so you know i was like i was like woken up to this thing this feeling of sexuality as a child in this way that i you know i i wouldn't wish that anyone it's fucking it's insanity but but for me anyway it like i mean it made me who i am you know and i've had to obviously go through so much fucking therapy and like all this shit just to be like, okay. But, you know, there's that thing in me where like sexuality is something I don't know how to explain it. Well, it's been part of are so open about that. Oprah was one of the first people that came out and she said that she was molested and it was really confusing because it felt good. Yeah. And I think that that's maybe where the shame in it lies.

Have you found that when you've talked to people that have been molested? Well, I mean, I just, I usually, I talk to people about this kind of stuff out loud so that they can feel comfortable yeah like i don't to me i know i know that that that this chain of events that happens what was nobody's fault necessarily i don't have a lot of anger or like you know my mom she had such a messed up childhood with stuff with her father and then it happens with her sister and then and then she comes into my room and does which it's it's no one's fault she had such a messed up childhood with stuff with her father. And then it happens with her sister. And then, and then she comes into my room and does,

which it's, it's no one's fault. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, you know, it's just sad.

And so, so then it happens to me and I can either like hide it and feel bad about it and feel shame about it. And just like, you know, feel like whatever the fuck I'm going to feel, or I can just put it out in the open, let it go, let other people share with me what they've experienced and we can all heal together. And I think that, you know, that's probably part of the

reason that my parties are what they are is, is I'm not strangely enough like, I don't, I would never go to a sex party. Huh? I would never go to a sex party. Why? Because I don't like that kind of sex. I need intimacy to get, I mean, I could take a pill. I could take a pill and like fake it. That's easy to do.

But if, but for my, for my real sexuality, because I don't really, I don't really want to take a pill. I need to feel intimacy. So I need to know somebody. I need to feel like I need to, yeah, intimacy gets me charged and that energy gets my dick hard. And so like at a sex party generally, yeah, it's just, people are just kind of, yeah, it's just not my scene. That's interesting because I've asked a lot of Michael's friends who are single. I'm like, go hire someone. And they say, no, they don't, they don't want to do that.

It feels too transactional. And they say the same thing you, like they want to know someone and they also want to like pleasure the woman knowing that she actually likes it. And as you were talking, I was thinking like, thinking like, I would probably have a hard time with that too, because I need to know that somebody on the other end is also like valuing that experience. If it feels transactional to me, I feel like I'm taking advantage of someone. Or like to your point earlier, it's just like, it's not great.

It's not an active participant. I mean, it feels fine. You know, like there's levels of everything and there's nothing wrong with it. Like I don't judge people who do it. and sex work is important for a lot of people and there's a lot of people who who survive off of it and and also the other side of it when people are like you know at least they're not turning into total fucking deviance and doing crazy it's it's pretty transactional sex is actually you know it's an agreement here's this money and i'm gonna do this and you're gonna do that but i just don't think that sex is very good. And if that's the only kind of sex

you're having, I think that's kind of sad, but sometimes that's, maybe that's it. You know, maybe that's what, what you're going to get. If you're not willing to, to get to know people and be vulnerable, be open and really like take your time with people and share your soul and your heart with someone. If you just want to be like you know hidden and just not not care about anybody then yeah you're gonna be paying for sex so when this stuff's all happening to you as a child how do you process that as a child and how do you kind of go through adolescence without getting totally derailed or do you get derailed and then kind of i mean i because my parents were so like i i became a total like health jock sports i mean i was a swimmer a water

polo player a mount i raced mountain bikes i didn't touch cigarettes no alcohol i was so anti everything because you know i was like on the bar stool next to my dad when i'm a kid you saw you know i was just telling the story the other day i like I had to drive my dad home on his lap because he was too drunk to drive. And I don't know how old I was, but I know that I couldn't have reached the pedals. I was on his lap steering up this winding hill to get back to the house.

And this is like before seatbelts. This is like, you know, 70s. It was just a different world. And there was a lot of beauty in all of it too. I mean, you know, yeah, a lot of it was just a different world. And there was a lot of beauty in all of it too. I mean, you know, yeah, there was a lot of it was, was not great, but then also like, you know, it was, there was some great stuff going on. You know, there's a lot of music, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of talented people. And also some of the people that were around me that were just partying and, and we, you know, my, my, we had guys that were writing poetry for the dead and a lot of the Grateful

Dead stuff going on around us all the time. And a lot of that music and a lot of recordings, a lot of sessions. My dad had a recording studio and my mom was an out there person, but her poetry was beautiful. She'd read me her poetry. And so there was a lot, it was dark, but it was also incredible. And I think that I was loved. I think that my mom and my dad loved me. I think that they, that, that when they weren't, you know, being fucking idiots, they, they were very loving with me. So I, I know I, I got loved. I know what love is. And I, and I, but yeah, no, I mean, I had to, a lot of my life was, that, my childhood as an excuse to be an idiot, you know, and that doesn't work because then I'm just burning bridges and messing things up. And in the end of the day, I'm hurting myself.

I mean, I'm hurting other people too. But yeah, at some point you learn, like you got to get your shit together and you can't blame the past. You can't act from this place anymore. Well, not everyone can do that. well i don't know i mean at some point you either do it or you just end up what like a drug addict or a in jail or i think that's like a more common yeah i mean it definitely happens yeah i mean also my wife you know like i my ex-wife i mean she's i'm so lucky you know she is like a together, beautiful woman. I spent 20 years with her and I have two kids with her. And she helped me.

She saved my life. She helped me be a human being. And even in my imperfections, which there are a lot of, she was incredibly helpful for me. And then having kids just completely changed me. And I mean, as you guys know, the second you hold your kid in your arms or that first time, you're just, you're fucked.

You're like, this is it. I'm gonna have to protect this thing now for the rest of my life. I mean, I'm gonna die, kill or die for this thing. At least I felt that way the second. You started crying both times. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's so overwhelming. And finally there's something like bigger than you,

more important than you. So that helps you grow, you know? Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, I still have to, you know, I'm sober right now. And, you know, I have times of like going out of clarity where I'm not in a spiritual place, where I'm getting messed up, where I'm, you know. I mean, I'm in a world where I can be pretty crazy if I want to be. Everyone will be happy. No one is bothered if I want to, like, you know, have sex with every fucking girl around me and and do drugs and drink no one says

stop that's got to be hard it's well it just is what it is i mean i'm celebrated for that kind of behavior so so that's the world i live in so for me to come out of that it takes some discipline you know but like but but but but when i slip into that place which i do sometimes it doesn't take me very long to get to get out of it you know if someone's listening can you walk us through don't take my advice if you're listening exactly what a sex party looks like and i mean from the second you walk in to when you leave and i need like are we going in at 6 p.m and coming out at 3 in the morning? Like, I want the whole picture. I want what it looks like. Because there's some people who are listening that are like, I want to hear about a sex party. I never want to go to one. Some people

are listening. They're like, where do I sign up? Okay, well, I'll give you an Elysian house. That's, I'm plugging Elysian house. I'll give you an Elysian House sex party. When I met Elena, who's sitting over there, we started talking and I wasn't planning on doing this again. I'm opening a restaurant and I have a cannabis brand, you know, and I wasn't planning on doing this again. And we started talking and she was, you know, I did ayahuasca in Costa Rica and I came back and I just had a lot of realizations and I was really coming from this place of love.

And I knew that that was the direction I wanted to stay in. And she was like, well, maybe you could do a sex party coming from that place. Maybe there'd be a way to do that. Was the first ones you did were not coming from that place is what you're saying? Sanctum was very much kind of a man, like a male ego dream. You know, it was like, it was a male ego dream. It didn't have much to do with love and connection. It really didn't.

And that was, at that point, that's what I wanted and that's what I wanted to explore. And that's what I did. But then when I sold it in 2009, I mean, sorry, 2019, yeah, 2019, I was like, I don't ever want to do that again. You know, that's not what I'm about, you know? And it's not fulfilling and it really just doesn't even make me feel good.

And so when I started this one, I was like, I wonder if you could do this about love and connection. So I think we have a pretty good, I think we're in that direction, you know, and are you filming me? What are you doing?

Instagram stories. Instagram stories. Yeah. Okay. I just want to know. It's kind of weird when you do that. I can't help it. I want to know every detail

about a sex party. It's perfectly fine. I'm so curious. I guess I should be okay with someone doing that. Well, there's about- Well, there are three cameras. I guess I should be okay with someone doing that. Well, there's about- Well, there are three candles. I know. I lose track of those for some reason.

I want to know every single detail about a sex party. Okay. So the doors open at 10 o'clock. Okay. Okay. So I'm going to be a guest. So you walk into this courtyard and in the courtyard, it depends on thematically what we're doing, but let's do the spring one. So there's chairs that are swinging back and forth with beautiful girls on these chairs and these beautiful costumes and such, and there's flowers everywhere. And we did these things where we have these offering places. So there's three different, um, three different kinds of places that you can go over. And these goddesses that are sitting in

these, um, I don't know, garden like things with stones and things behind them. I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty theatrical and elaborate, and this is just the courtyard. So you walk in there and, and, and what you do when you get in there is you make some offerings so the first one we did was um write down what you want to write down what you want to release from the winter and you would write that down and then you'd hand it to actually to her she was she was the winter goddess and then and we make got these pieces of paper that you would write down an offering on it and then and then when you light it on fire, we go, it was almost like a magic spell. So, so you were, you were releasing something from the winter. Then there was this really beautiful girl on the, on this, on these rocks. And she asked, what would you, what would you like to happen tonight? Like what's your passion or your dream or your, or your thing

for the evening? And you'd write that down and then she would put that into an urn. So she wouldn't burn that one. And then there was this other goddess and it was, oh yeah, what do you want to see? What do you want to bring to you in the springtime? So you would write that down. And so those things would burn. So that first interaction is completely not sexual. It's about intention and coming into your own kind of heart and thinking about your intentions and what you would like to release or bring and what you want this night to be about. And then you go into our bar and we have

this bar with a pool table and such, and these bartenders are making cocktails. So maybe you'd get some kind of an elixir. They have different things. There's some champagne or whatever you might want. Guests are starting to arrive. Generally, men are dressed pretty well. Some of them are wearing tuxedos because they think that they should. I'm not telling them to wear tuxedos, but I think it's kind of the default for a wealthy gentleman is a tuxedo. It kind of makes sense to them. Some of the other people are getting more elaborate with their costumes. Maybe like a, what do you call that thing when you tie it up here and it's like a fluffy, almost like a scarf, like an ascot or things like this, you know, different types of things.

Some men are, you know, maybe a little bit more like Burning Man-esque, but not a lot of those. I'm probably the only, I mean, I actually, the reason I wore this robe, I'm sorry, I go all over the place. No, no, keep going. We can track it. But this is how I feel most comfortable. Okay. This is how I like am, this is the real me. Okay.

Me in clothes is not really the real me. You could have come naked. I'm naked under this. Okay, you could have come naked. I mean, come with the real me. Me in clothes is not really the real me. You could have come naked. I'm naked under this. Okay, you could have come naked. I mean, come with your penis up. I will. It's a show for it. You could do it.

If I did it, I'd probably have a call from HR. But let me, I might. Put it on the table. Can you send me one of those when you're gone? I'm happy to. I feel like I should. I don't want to give anyone the wrong impression. No, no.

Go ahead. We're at the Ashot. so yeah so this is the way they're dressed and then and then women you know some of the women i mean at the last party this this beautiful woman comes up over to me to introduce herself to me and she's wearing nothing but heels and she is going or you know red red hair real real red hair, the orange hair, and down below too. And just this beautiful body. And she just was like, hi, I'm so-and-so. And I'm like, this is how you dressed to come here? And she's like, yes. And I was like, this is the best anyone's going to be dressed tonight.

I mean, this is it. This is so good. But that's how I am. See mean, this is it. This is so good. And, and, and other, okay. So, so, but that's how I am. Okay. See, and that is what you said earlier is that I make people feel comfortable because to me, that is the best outfit that I was going to see that night. I don't lie to anybody. I actually don't lie.

I tell the truth. And in my, and I think in my truth, because my truth is so like, I love all these people, what they're doing. I love it. It's so fun to see for me. Anyway. It's pure. Yeah.

It's great. And I, and I love nudity and I love sexuality. It's like all good to me. How do you quickly, how do you decide who's allowed to be a member? No, no, no. We're not there yet. Okay. Okay.

Sorry. Keep going. Keep going. Get away. Okay. So now we've gotten some cocktails. We've not there yet. No, back off. Get away. We're still here in court. Now we've gotten some cocktails. We've made our offerings. Okay, now I'm going to make some stuff.

So now we walk over to the pool, okay? And there's this big pool with this view of the city behind it. We've got all these heaters and all these beds. But the beds are like that thick. They're not like bed beds. They're like these cushioned things.

But they're all over the place. More rock formations. And it's really nice and warm and cozy. They're not like bed beds. They're like these cushioned things, but they're all over the place, more rock formations, and it's really nice and warm and cozy. And then you sit around there. We lead everyone over to there, and we do a performance there. For the night I'm talking about, we did a fire performance.

We had this woman with these big wings, these angel wings that were all lit on fire, and dance performances, which she actually was one of the dancers, which I didn't know that she's a dancer. I mean, she's like... Multi- the dancers, which I didn't know that she's a dancer. I mean, she's like... Multi-talented.

She is, you know. She started out, I didn't know who she, I mean, how do you know who anyone is? But my God, she's really turned into something. Were you always this way? Or did this thing, you were always this way? Yeah. Here I am. Yeah, so dance performance, once again, non-sexual, okay?

And the people that are coming to the sex party that I'm doing are saying to me, wow, it's so cool that some of these performances, the early ones anyway, that there's no sex. Because it's totally, it's like more of a turn on. It's beautiful. It makes us go, wow, and think and talk. And we're not, so it's really, you know, we thought about this for a while. Like, how do you make a sex party about love and connection?

How do you get people there? Well, you don't let them have sex for a while. And by the way, okay, the lights change colors. So we starting out in this amber light and eventually it gets to red. Red happens around 1231 with our main sex show. But you're not allowed to have sex in our place until all of the lights turn red.

So we're forcing people to connect. And that is making for better sex. And all the guy's balls are so blue. By the time it turns red, their balls are purple because red and blue mixed together is purple. Everyone has purple balls. And the women are like dripping too. They're dripping.

Fuck. Yeah. So you've got swollen balls. Everyone just revved up. Dripping. Dripping pussies. Then it just all comes together. I'm struggling how to get an invite

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dancing and the music is going and they start dancing us up into the living room. So they start dancing and we follow and we follow. And then, and so we have this estate up in Hollywood. So you go up the stairs and then, and then we have this whole big living room, multiple living rooms, bedrooms, and then a master bedroom. But now we're upstairs. So when you get upstairs now, it's getting closer to midnight. Now some sexuality is starting to happen. On these round stages, you're seeing women and the women are starting to touch each other, make out with each other, maybe masturbate. You know, we have toys and things like that if they want. We really let our performers, I mean, this is one thing that I've

learned so much from this industry, you know, because I, I mean, I really did start it in 2013. So I did learn a lot, you know, but I and I've taken like everything I learned from then and just changed it to what I think it could be you elevated I I well I don't know I I like what it is now I like what it is a lot it's it's it makes me want to be part of it more and but I tell the girls like you know this is where this is where i need you and this but whatever you're going to do and whoever you're going to do it with like the other performers like you guys choose and then you guys and i'm going to watch you too i want to be surprised by whatever it is too so you guys figure you know i'm not doing a lot of choreographing of these

sex shows i'm doing more choreographing of the other stuff but for the sexuality i want it to be real as real as possible you just want the other stuff. But for the sexuality, I want it to be real, as real as possible. You just want the, you want to curate the environment. I want to curate the environment. And I want, and I, and the sec, okay, let me go, let me just go back. So we go upstairs and now these girls are starting, you're starting to see mainly just girls interact and the members and the guests are starting to sit down and people are starting to have cocktails.

There's still no sexuality, but you can see the people are starting to get turned on by what's going on. And then we have these back bedrooms. One room is a kink and tantra room. So we've got instructors in there. And if you want to maybe be tied up and maybe hit with a flogger, or if you want to learn how to do that, maybe you want to hit him or he wants to hit, whatever it is. I'm sure she wants to hit me. They'll show you how to do it. They'll'll show you after care so after you smack his ass you're gonna like touch his ass really lightly maybe lick it and blow on it a little bit so it cools off things like this you're taking notes learn all these little things you're gonna want to learn but the guests like that you know and we're and we're focused on on on on guests now a lot more like

how do we how do we show them some really good stuff and teach them stuff while they're here and make them feel comfy while they're here? Because the more comfortable they are, then the more like good, the better the sex can be, right? So then the other room is massage. It's like coconut oil massage

and female masturbation room. That's what we call it. So we've got, you know, we've got, I mean, this is going to sound crazy, but it all sounds crazy. So this guy who's like- Tell us every detail. every detail i don't think any i want every he's this he's this like you know handsome man who's who's who's would you would you say he's handsome he's kind of boyish yeah he's a handsome man i just he's not like manly you know he's like he's

a kind of a how would you describe him he is a very spiritual guy anyway the point is is that he massages women to orgasm sometimes without even touching their pussies and when he does go in and do that too i mean it's like you know it's like it's convulsions and stuff this dude has what's going on with this guy he just just has a magic thing. He's been studying anatomy and bodies since he was young. He knows how the clit connects to the inner parts. The clit's big. It goes out and it goes out around your pussy lips. So he knows all of the things. And he's a fucking master of the pussy.

Your next podcast, when you come on here, you can explain the vagina. Because a lot of guys don't understand it. But go on. I don't even know it as well as he knows. Is he taking on students? Taylor wants to know if he's taking on students. Taylor wants to know if he's taking on students. He can be my mentor.

I mean, we actually do have classes up there. We do have classes up there. Classes aren't that expensive because we want to get people in. Okay, so go on. Go on. So now you're exploring. You're seeing these shows and and you're maybe starting to explore these rooms right so you're going to go maybe into the tantra room or into

the massage room and yeah and and he may you know he may be massaging someone and if you are like wow you know will you show me that i want to massage my wife and and you know and he'll show you some things and you can finish or whatever i mean some some men get freaked out because he's not touching their vaginas but they're really experiencing intense pleasure and some of the men are like get jealous but this is why just like quick tangent foreplay is so important and i think a lot of men don't understand it's so much easier to have insane multiple orgasms if the guy puts a little fucking elbow grease into it. And these motherfuckers are so lazy, they want

to just stick it in. These motherfuckers. I'm just saying, a guy could learn a little put some effort into it. I mean, you're preaching to the choir here. Go ahead. But what we need to say to these guys is it's not so that they can be like, it's not about even the girl necessarily.

I mean, it is. At the end of the day, I mean, you know. It always is. But it's also about them. Yeah. Like, don't they want to experience deeper levels of pleasure for themselves i mean if you know i i'll say some weird shit but like the kind of orgasms that i have i mean i can't even fucking see when i'm coming i'm just like

fucked all that clip put it on tiktok yeah yeah because because because i because i because i take my fucking time okay you know and the more time i need a pen because i have a lot of things the more time i take i put a pin in that because i have questions about that go on with the party okay so now we're at the party so so, so, so we've, we've kind of experienced some, some tantra kink stuff. We've experienced some massage stuff. Now we're now, now it's about 1230 at night and now it's time for our main performance. So what happens is what I've noticed is that when, when people have sex in front of you, it allows you to be a little bit more open, a little more free. You feel like sex is okay. When you see

someone having sex, it can maybe be a little uncomfortable if you've never seen it, but you realize pretty quickly that it's like, especially if it's like really beautiful people doing it, you know, that know how to have sex really good. It's kind of like, oh, that's kind of nice to watch. It's also primal and natural. Yeah, it is. I mean, for people like us, it's not like a scary thing. But for some people, there are people that come to my clubs, they've never seen that before. They've never seen it before. I was wondering, is it mostly regulars or is it a lot of times new people? It's always new people.

Okay. Like at our last party, we had these three, remember, we had the three like supermodels sitting on the couch. And earlier in the night, they came to me and and you know they were like they were like supermodels you know like that that very specific kind of person we don't get a lot of those honestly we get girls we get just we get such beautiful people but they look like they were off a fucking runway they were like 5 9 to 5 11 all three together they'd like come to this party as a group to i probably just like let's just go and find out what the fuck this is you know let's just check it out it's fun like i feel like it's

voyeuristic it is and you could tell they were not there they were there they were there to judge that's what they were there to do that's what they wanted to do and when they first saw me that was their kind of like attitude about about what this was then i look over at them now we're at about 12 30 and that first sex show happens i look over at them now we're at about 12 30 and that first sex show happens i look over at them and they're watching this show and they look at me and they're just like and i was like and they were the show and it was a beautiful show i mean you know i mean we we get great people who really connect at least the last one was really connective no they're not always it's hard to do sex shows really i'll be honest with it with you about sex shows you know it's hard

to do sex shows because first of all you need a guy that can get his dick hard and keep it and that's not easy. Even for porn stars. In front of everybody. Yeah. There are plenty of guys that inject. Most of the guys do inject. Most of the guys inject.

They fucking inject. They go in my kitchen. They fucking have a needle. Inject what? Something into their dicks. They keep it going. And then their dicks are just hard the whole night. They walk around with these hard-ons the whole night, but it looks so goofy.

So you think it's too much? It just looks goofy. But what's the alternative if they can't perform? Well, right. I mean, I know. Well, the ultimate would be someone who actually could be that in the moment and make love to their person. That's like my dream sex show. And I thought it was going to happen last time, and it almost did.

I wish I could train myself. I mean, maybe I could train myself, too. I don't know. It's not easy. You're like, fuck it. It's going to have to be me. I'm going to have to do it. I mean, to be really focused into your person

in front of 60 people or whatever it may be. It's a tall order. It is. Because even having a video camera, when even videoing yourself having sex changes sex. It just does. Just a little bit because you're aware of this thing whereas when it's just the two of you when it's just for you it's just

for you it's just for each other there's no one going to see it there's no performative stuff there's no it's just i imagine it's like the paparazzi like if if justin bieber is eating a sandwich he's gonna eat it a little differently if the paparazzi are watching. Because I'm just shoving the sandwich in my mouth when I'm alone eating chips coming. I mean, you're going to eat it differently. You're going to eat things differently at your sex show. Do you know what I mean?

It's exactly like Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber eating a sandwich. Okay, so after people on stage are having sex, are people in the party having sex? So once the people on the stage start to have sex, the lights turn red. Okay. So now it's like, okay, we can do this if we want. We can start to do this if we want. And, you know, there's some people that are just right quick to the punch. They are ready to go. Like too much though.

It's okay. It's okay. They're the starters. Okay. You know, and some girl is just, she's unzipping her partner's pants and she's got his dick in her mouth. The show's still going.

The partner, are people with their significant other? Couples, wives. But is there singles too? Singles. Okay, so it's everything. It's everything. Okay. Yeah, we're open to everything.

And our ratio is pretty heavily women to men, to be honest. It's probably, it's like, it's over three to one women to men. Is there anyone who brings their significant other and then gets jealous? Yeah, I mean, it can go both ways. Okay, so it's a medley of all different kinds of people.

I mean, ideally people are communicating pretty well before they go to a sex party right you never know like it seems like part of the like checklist i mean you'd want to yeah yeah if you call them i was like you should make an ebook if anyone's listening don't go to a sex party without really communicating with your partner have some rules hey i got this fun idea for tonight and and and stick to the rules by the way you know like i've seen people how they're like they're gonna go to a sex party together they've agreed to to share in a moment together if we meet someone we'll explore what we're gonna really communicate and be honest and then and then like someone like the guy this in this instance the guy like snuck off into a bathroom and had sex with a girl.

And then his partner found out. And she was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, I just gave you the opportunity to be totally honest with me. We're here at a sex party and you're going to cheat on me? Yeah, that's kind of like, that's not the vibe. God, that was the end of their relationship. Yeah, that's not the vibe. I mean, and you're a girl.

How do you manage that when that happens at a party? Is it like you guys are killing the vibe or are mean that was the end of their relationship yeah that's not the vibe i mean and you're how do you manage that when that happens at a party is it like you guys gotta kill the vibe or you gotta go or i mean no i mean things like that work themselves out i mean we have security to deal with some i mean really our security is there to make sure that that women are are safe that's pretty much it you know there's no fights there's no there's nothing like that but if there's someone who's overly intoxicated or things like that like obviously you know, there's no fights. There's no, there's nothing like that. But if there's someone who's overly intoxicated or things like that, like, obviously, you know, you're not allowed to touch without asking. But it's very rare that a man does that.

But there are some idiots. Sure. You know, and there are some people that will do that. When the lights go down and people start fucking. Yeah. I imagine in my head, it's like Jumanji. Like, you know, in Jumanumanji when like all the wild animals. The children's movie?

The wild animals are like going, like they're like going crazy. Like, is that how it is? Or is it not as out in your face? I would say that it really depends on the party. And it depends on the room you walk into. The energy. And the rooms. Because there's, they call them playrooms, right? They're bedrooms, you know,

like my master bedroom is like the members lounge or whatever. And there's this big tub in there that fits like eight people. And I mean, I've walked into my room and it's so weird because, you know, I actually, and I go to sleep in my bedroom after the sex party. So at three o'clock in the morning, my staff comes in, they close close everything they change all my sheet you know they change out my bedding and and and clean up so it's all nice and clean but i get back into my bed after i've seen 20 people fucking on my bed it's a little odd are you participating in everything or are you watching and posting the party or is it both i I don't participate very much. Huh? No, not very often. Always or just recently?

No, well, at Sanctum, I did a lot more. At Sanctum, I think I was there because that's what I wanted. I wanted to be that guy. Got it. So I created that world for me to like indulge all my fantasies. Self-aware. Yeah, that was that. Wow.

This is like, i want to create this for them so they can have better sex and like and have more connection and and i think it's kind of a yeah i think it's kind of nice what we're doing so so the lights are going down everyone's having sex in different rooms there's different kinds of like sort of like hobbies or themes and things yeah what else tell us what else are people drunk is there drop like what's i want to know like the whole thing yeah i mean there's there's there's definitely people drinking you know there's a dj there's music okay i wouldn't say people are dancing you know there's a lot of talking huh i mean it's a great

group of people you know there's a lot of very wealthy people there's celebrities and things like that so it's like really cool people how do you mitigate everyone signs an NDA has everyone always adhered to that NDA well we haven't had any problems yet not with this club like so no one's come out to the press and said I saw blah blah blah blah no with this club and I don't think anyone will. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's cool. Well, she's my business partner.

And she's different. She comes from a world where contracts and things like that are important and lawyers and all. I don't like lawyers and all that kind of stuff. I'm a creator. Well, I imagine people use that as a place to get away from a lot of that. It's like they want to protect the space in a way, right? Like you don't want to go there and then blow up the whole thing that you're going to use

as an escape in the first place. I mean, most, almost every, I would assume that most of the people there are like, yeah, I mean, this is their, this is their place they want to protect. How do you, how do you decide, back to the earlier question, who you allow into the space and who you don into the space and who you don't? Taylor wants to know if he can get in. Is there a process where somebody comes, Taylor back there? I mean, you apply and then we find out about you and then we say yes or no. Okay. I'm going to apply. Me. You just met me. I want to know if I'll get in. Forget about Michael.

You would get in. I would get in. I'm just going to make sure. Would I get in? He would get in too. Oh, he would get in too. But men have to pay. And women don't. Okay. Okay. This could be the headline. So if he can't afford it, then you would come in alone.

Got it. But then he would be really upset about that. Right. No, I would never. I'm just wondering. I just want to know if I would get in. But I invited you guys, by the way. You did?

When? I invited you to come to our last party. I didn't get in. I wrote in. Oh, maybe get it. I wrote in. Oh, maybe you did. I wrote in. We were emailing. I told my assistant to do that, and she did.

And then someone wrote back and said, they're not available. And it was Saturday. I'm going to give you my personal email. You know what, you guys? You might just see me there. It was Saturday. Because I thought it would be so great for you to come.

Well, you know, maybe we're halftime in Texas. So maybe we actually weren't available. No, we weren't. We weren't here on Saturday. We got here on Sunday. So that's probably why. But no one told me that I was invited to a sex party. That's going to be the headline.

Michael and Lauren joined Damon's sex parties. You were invited to a sex party. You never know. You never know. We've been married since we were, how many years have we been married? We got married in 2016. Yeah. But we've known each other since we were 12. We've known each other since we were How many years have we been married? We got married in 2016. Yeah. But we've known each other since we were 12.

We've known each other since we were 12. We haven't been together that long. Yeah. We haven't been together that long. But I think that I am someone who is open-minded and because of this podcast, I really... You know we started the sex business. I don't know much about you guys. I gotta give you our... It's out there. You mentioned coconut oil. We're gonna give you some of the best coconut oil lube

and toys. Before you leave here, we're gonna give it to you. I gotta give you the will. We have coconut oil. You can eat it, lick it, suck it, fuck it. It's amazing. Oh no, yeah. Coconut oil is the best. I'm sure yours is great. I have a couple little tiny weird questions. Here's my list. Should I do it and then send you guys a video?

Yeah. The sex party or woo? The coconut oil thing. You send us whatever video you want. Experiment and let us know. We'll give you a bunch of them. Here's my quick little questions. How much is it for the guy?

To come to the party? Yeah. There's a $2,500 ticket, a $5,000 ticket, and then memberships are $50,000 to $225,000. So this is an exclusive situation. We're not bringing people, just random people in. It's very exclusive as I pick this cough drop out of my teeth. That's fine. That's fine.

Okay. Celebrities are there all the time. I mean, we have celebrities, yeah. But it's a lot of wealthy men, a lot of celebrities. Is it a lot of supermodels? What are the girls that get in? I mean, we just talked, yeah. But it's a lot of wealthy men, a lot of celebrities. Is it a lot of like supermodels? Like what are the girls that get in? I mean, we just talked about the supermodels. But is it playmates?

Is it porn? Like what kind of girls are there? I mean, it's interesting. You just said porn. You know, I didn't really intend this to be and this isn't going to like, it's not going to help sell my business, but I like to just tell the truth about things,

which is that somehow the porn community, like this is where they come to have sex for their pleasure. It's really weird. I mean, it's fantastic. Do you think it's because that's what you can, they can actually like develop a connection there? I think,

I think that they really resonated with what I was talking about. I, I know a lot, a lot of girls now in porn because I've hired them over the years to perform for me. And the kind of sex they have on set is so antithetical to actually having good sex. And they actually get turned off. They don't even want to have sex anymore. It's funny.

Lana Rhodes came on here. Beautiful porn star. And she said this. Not anymore. She was only a porn star for a short short while and she told us the same thing she's like i hated it it was miserable so a lot of these so a lot of them feel that way and so they actually come to my events to like have sex for their pleasure and reignite that part in themselves so strangely enough i mean we, we have so many absolutely gorgeous girls that are so sexually kind of advanced. And, and I mean, these, like when you have sex for a living, you get good at it, you know, like they are good at it and they know a

lot of, and, and so they've got that. And then sort of like that part where they really, they want to open up intimacy and feel something. It's kind of like, it's kind of heaven. Yeah. So when you say they're good at sex, let's say there's a woman listening. She's in Minnesota and she wants to spice it up with her husband. What are some things that you've seen that make a girl good, quote unquote, good at sex? How was that blowjob class that we did what's the trick to a blowjob because i have my own ideas you're pretty good

lauren i know i don't mean to brag we hired we hired like a a tantric goddess to do a blowjob class okay i'm going to tell you about the blowjob class really quick yeah tell us everything i mean how do you get good at stuff right unfortunately when it comes to sexuality who the fuck knows right there's no classes people are so uptight and afraid of talking about sexuality sex is what is the big fucking deal here i mean let's like learn how to get good at sex why the fuck not and everyone has it because how dicks and vaginas are beautiful how are you here i mean as long as they're healthy, they're really wonderful. You can have a lot of fun with them and you might as well.

So anyway, we had a blowjob class. And the guy who was supposed to be the male model for the tantric goddess who was going to teach. And then all the women. How many women were there? 20. The women all had rubber dildos. And I think they were different sizes. Because some went into like a 6 inch

and some had an 8 inch. People pick the 6 inch? Yeah, yeah. There's all different sizes. Okay. That's not what I would have picked. I'm just wondering. Go ahead. Did I say something about him? I would not have married a'm just wondering. Go ahead. Does that say something about him? I would not have married six inches. Sorry, honey. Wow.

I should take that as a compliment. That's good. Take it as a compliment. Feel good. Wow. Pull that clip. For the rest of my life, the rest of my life, we're going to have to be working with more than six inches, but go ahead.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. So he fits you really good. He fits me great. He fits me great. He fits me great. Like a glove.

Does she fit you good? So far, no complaints. I told you, we did invent a sex business. Yeah, no,

but that's hot, you guys. We went on a tangent. We're like, of all the other things, we got to get the sex business. It was a lot of trial and error. When you need someone

to teach a blowjob class, call Michael and I because I have a lot of good tips this is how I stay married she's good I wouldn't listen I'm talking about

being together a long time on a scale of 1 to 10 there's certain boxes you got to check what would you rate me because I would rate me I would rate me a 10 and you know what

come on because she'll never she'll never say no this is how this is how I do it I have my top 5 blow five blow jobs in my mind okay and if someone comes along and like you know just takes a spot tops it it's a moment for me i will tell them i'll be like

closing his eyes just you just you just got on my fucking top five blow job list and that is a i mean come on. I mean... There's been a lot of... Everyone knows who I am. I've been doing this for 13 fucking years. You know. I know.

Well, my next question after you talk about this blowjob class is going to be what makes a good blowjob for you. And when you say top five, these are top five... Of all time. Of like... Just the experience of the blowjob. And one person can hold one spot. Not like one person.

One person gets one spot. Okay. Yeah. One person per spot. My gay friend told me, Lauren, you suck it like a gay man would suck a dick. Now wait, how do they know this? Because he's a gay man. He told me, suck it like a gay man would suck a dick.

That's what he told you to do? Yes. Oh, okay. Well, they do have the equipment. So it it's like it's maybe an unfair advantage it's like i think a lot of girls forget about the balls the gooch i think there's it's more we forget about the penis there's we gotta go we gotta go that's the stomach the legs inner thigh how are you comfortable with her talking about this are you comfortable with me talking to her about this i have been i was thinking about this on the show Before you came on

I'm like okay What have we not talked about? Damon you're up at the top now Now I'm like okay Now we're reaching the peak of the show Is he comfortable with this? He's known me since I was 12 Yeah

Right There's nothing I'm not comfortable with I mean it's hot What you're talking about You know He's totally 100% comfortable Are you guys monogamous? Yes

We are monogamous You know why though? Because Tell them why we're monogamous? Yes, we are monogamous. You know why though? Because... Tell them why we're monogamous though because we have a really interesting thing on why we're monogamous. Okay, here's the thing. If you...

And you're going to maybe agree or disagree. But one, I think we like actually truly love each other. That's obvious. And I think it's like easy to manage two people. And her and I can be on the exact same page about everything. And if we want to invite a third person, her and I can be on the exact same page about everything. And if we want to invite a third person, her and I could be on the exact same page. But I do not trust that we can manage that third person.

Does that make sense? Yeah. It feels like too much. It's overwhelming. We could be like, hey, this is what it is, and we're good, and we can be in line. But as soon as you get that third party, if they're not fully in alignment,

and I think that's challenging. Honestly, I'm just going to put this out there. Put it out there. If you guys ever want to explore a threesome, man or woman, I'm going to assume woman. Okay. Woman. Yeah. Because that would be a lot to have to deal with a man first time out.

Too much penis. And maybe not. Maybe. And yeah. And maybe that's not even necessary. It sounds like he's got a nice dick. I'm satisfied. So you might not even need more than that.

Okay, I hope. But if you ever want to bring in a woman, come to me. You're my first stop. And I will introduce you to someone who will be beautiful, tested, so they're clean, and they'll be neutral. All they'll want to do is, they'll probably be more into you than him. Who wouldn't that's fine

you know what again it would be risky if they weren't more into her does that make sense I mean I would you know I know

I know I know what it is I know I know what it's about and I know what's safe and I know what's not and I know what the what the red zones are

when we have a threesome I'm coming to you it really please do get you on speed dial please do and it'll be a secret even though we've just talked about it on this podcast we just shared it with the world no one no one will ever know about this threesome except for the three of us and the million people that are listening now or if anyone wants to write in to apply they can speculate after listening if did this ever happen when is is it going to happen? Who did it happen with? But they'll never know.

That's right. They will never know. No, I know you're still trapped. I know that. And Taylor, the threesome won't be with you. I'm sorry to break it to you. One thing that I'm really passionate about right now is air quality. We had the founder of Jasper on our podcast and it blew my fucking mind.

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so tell us about the blowjob the funny part about the blowjob class was that the guy who was supposed to be the male person there's there's going to be a real blowjob and then the girls were doing the rubber dildos okay so the one real blowjob was, I mean, the one blowjob was the man was an actual guy and this girl. And the guy didn't fucking show up. So she comes into my bedroom or into my shower because I have like a wing of this estate

where I live. You know, I mean, I live in the whole thing, but that's kind of like my wing. You're in your area to be like, that's your space. So she comes in and she's like, Damon, the guy is supposed to do the blowjob. The class didn't show up.

She's like, can you be the guy? Can she suck your dick? And I was like, Elena, I don't really want to. I don't want all these women watching me have a blowjob she's like Damon Damon I need you and I was like okay fucking fine I'll do it you're the stunt cock

the stunt cock I'm not fluffing myself up I'm not getting ready I don't fucking care I'm gonna go out there I'll sit down she can suck my dick and whatever do whatever do whatever she needs to do totally fine then she comes you know and i'm like i'm just like whatever you know i'm ready to go i'm ready to sit down on the chair and then she's like oh no no i got this other guy to do it so you didn't do you didn't actually do it wait hold on are you the one that was going to suck

his dick no okay no just because they're business partners though maybe it was transactional i'm just wondering no but you weren't the one that was teaching the class you sound like it was like it was like a like come on man we need we need you like a stage hand okay give us give us the top three tips to the best blowjob on the planet and then give us the top three tips on how to eat a girl out because fuck these guys need some fucking help you know it's not like a mechanical or a physical thing it's not like um there's basics right of a blowjob you know of like i mean but everyone's different right i mean i mean you know some maybe you're gonna like stroke the shaft as you're sucking it

or like you're saying the ball you might lick the ball put them in your mouth and lick up the you know but whatever there's so many like techniques but it's not that it's like i think the best blow jobs are just when the girl is just like fucking hungry for and you can feel it you know and she just she just wants to fucking suck your dicks i mean i think it's like when she's nobody's goes back to the it's like she's actually into it yes i think that that my one of my best friends weston i'm gonna call it out he says that there's there's two types of girls there's girls that like it and there's girls that don't and i think that what you're saying is the you would prefer to have your penis sucked by someone who really likes to do it.

I'm saying that anyone would. Yeah. And, you know. I concur. The porn star girls have technique. Yeah. They do. Yeah.

They have technique. And they do certain things. I'm not quite sure what it is they're doing, but they're doing something. And it's different. Okay doing something and it's different. Okay. Some of it's noisy. Like they've gotten into this noisy thing and it's really wet and it's like, there's like these deep guttural, like, oh, there's all these sounds now that they make. And this is like, you know, like in the bedroom. Yeah. It's not just on the set. This is just how they are now. It's the culture of that, of porn. I'm kind of like, stop doing that.

That is not what I'm into. I don't need you gagging on my dick. Look in my eyes when you're sucking my dick and just be with me and fucking get into it. It feels so good. You know, you don't have to do all this crazy shit. You don't have to like all these bells and whistles. It's like you don't need Cirque du Soleil.

No. Yeah. In fact, that's kind of like. Cheese. Yeah, it's not. I mean, it's fun a little bit. A little bit. What do you call it?

A novelty? It's a novelty. Yeah, it's a novelty. That's what I call it. It's just like, it's a little, it's a little bit. What do you call it? A novelty? It's a novelty. Yeah, it's a novelty. That's what I call it. It's a little much. No, it's like, you know, I'm going to say this out loud. So I was having sex with this girl and it was just like really fucking good sex. It was really good sex.

But she's not on the pill or anything. So I can't come in her. So I pull out and I'm going to, I thought I was going to come on her. But she like got underneath me in this way and started fucking sucking my dick. And like, I came in her mouth and it was, she was,

it was, it was, she was like ravenous, ravenous. And that, that is a good blowjob. Okay. And then for a guy, I think it's like, it's the same thing.

I mean, you have to know the basics of, of, of whatever. You have to know that where the clit is. You have to know what that is. You have to know what's going on. You have to, you have to know that it's sensitive, that like there's certain pressure that, that works really well and others that don't. I mean, honestly, it's such a fun thing. Well, a lot of guys, I, I feel like a lot of mean honestly it's such a fun thing well a lot of guys i i feel

like a lot of guys think it's like a treat and and it shouldn't be a treat do you know what i mean i don't all i know is that i'm looking at you yeah i'm i'm i'm like i'm keying into your pussy i'm feeling your body maybe i'll have my hands on you. Maybe I might even have a hand like on your chest. I'm going to feel you so that as I'm doing what I'm doing down here, I'm going to find my way to what is going to make your heartbeat faster. Or what, I might even have my hand on your neck so I can feel your breathing. And just like, I'm going to find my way to you. Because there is no technique that's going to work for you or you or whatever.

It's a connection. I don't think. connection i don't think it's a connection it's a connection and and if you're always finding because i've had sex with the same person over a period of years and the sex will continuously get more intense and better yeah because you're exploring you're finding new things and if you're doing that and you're aware fuck you know that's great so what can you do like in in an hour with someone you know you just meet them at a sex party well you can you can definitely go pretty deep if you're if you're into it if you're paying attention if you're not performative if you're not just fucking someone on a couch looking around at the party which happens at so many sex parties it's so fucking ridiculous like they're having sex but they're looking around it's just stupid but do you think it's because they're like

they're living almost their fantasy that they're finally in the sex party yes they're going to a sex party to live out some some fantasy no one's really connecting it's just silliness and at some point it gets really old what's the number one fantasy like at a sex party what's people's normal fantasy threesomes i mean honestly like just to have sex just have sex. Yeah, so there's not like orgies It's not like I mean, I'm sure there are there's all kinds of things people want to do I think I think that when you go to a sex party and And you get to connect with someone and have sex with someone that you've just met at a sex party. It's a thrill It's exciting

I mean not that you guys are gonna do this because you're because you're not but but if you went to a sex party it's a thrill it's exciting i mean not that you guys are going to do this because you're because you're not but but if you went to a sex party and you met some girl that that you know like you're are you attracted to women or not i like women yeah so you meet a girl and you're like you tell me i definitely am not dp you're like she's hot yeah you're like she's yeah i'd rather look at a girl yeah so you're like she's fucking hot Yeah, and and he's like, you know He doesn't say much because if he's smart, he'll just keep his mouth shut and let you do all of it And then you'll be like come on Let's talk to her and then you go talk to her and then she's really sweet and she's really beautiful

And she's kind of like she asks you like can I kiss you? You're so beautiful. Can I kiss you and you're like you can kiss me and she kisses you and you're like Turned on by her and then maybe she touches you Maybe she has her hand down and she's like is it okay if i touch you because everyone asks she's he's like she's not even paying attention to him then she brings you into a room and she starts with you and and and and and he's like maybe then he's getting turned he's like but he's into you he's focusing on you he's whispering in your ear she you know maybe you're like you tell the girl let's suck his dick together let's get him hard and you guys both suck his dick and then he starts fucking you right for her and she's kissing you and she's playing with you this is like a romance

audiobook all of that's happening all that's happening the picture all that's happening and you're just like in this place of like holy fuck amazing. Like, it sounds fun. And then, you know, it ends and you guys are talking and she's actually cool. She's actually cool. She's pretty. She's a professional. She's not like, you know, you probably wouldn't be approaching one of the more girls that looks a little bit more like, you know, 20 year old porn star girls. You're going to be approaching one of the girls that looks like she's a professional.

She's maybe whatever she is. she's a lawyer or something. You know, we have like, you know, 30 year old lawyers and, and, and whatever that are just so fucking beautiful and amazing. How do you know if they're clean? Like, how do you know if people are tested? Is there, is there stuff around that? At our club, we do, we do a seven day test. So if you get tested within seven days of the event, you have a wristband and it says tested for play, right? Yeah, tested for play. And then do people have- But most sex clubs don't do that. I mean, that's amazing. Yeah, it's good.

Do people have to wear condoms? No one has to do anything. Okay. But most people are smart enough to, you're going to wear a condom with a stranger, even if you have a tested for play wristband. But you know, a lot of it is like, I think, I think that's kind of one reason why couples do well, because generally couples are trusted. Like if it's a man and a woman and they've been together and they go into a sex party, they're, they're, they're going to be pretty aware of their sexual health. So if you meet a girl, sometimes that girl will be just like, okay, they're good, they're safe. I mean, I don't know, but it's up to each person.

What has gone wrong at these parties? At sex parties? Yeah. If anything. I mean, pretty much every party someone gets too wasted. And you guys just escort them out. One person. We now have like a safe room.

Yeah, I mean, after two parties, we were like, we need a safe room. Safe room where they can go and like... Safe room, IVs, you know, like, you know, water. Someone in there to sit with them. And what are you doing? Just walking around hosting the party? Mm-hmm. Okay.

And also like, you know, there's a lot of queues. There's a lot of shows. There's a lot of cues. There's a lot of shows. There's a lot of staff. And at the end of the day, I mean, I'm trying my best to make it so that I don't even need to be there where everyone knows their job and exactly what they need to do. They have a checklist. They follow that and they just do their job. But every once in a while, it just happens that someone's like, well, we don't know what to do. Where's Damon? Before you go, I would be crazy not to ask you this on air. Taylor, our producer back there has a hard time containing. How do I say this in a nice way, Taylor? I'll let you say it. What's your problem? Premature ejaculation.

Premature ejaculation all the time, everywhere. He says he's gotten better. In his face. Yeah, I have gotten better. Spraying everywhere. do you have any tips i do okay taylor first of all i feel you you know when i was in my 20s i i had i don't know how old you are taylor i can't even see you he's sitting behind a computer 36 okay so you know when i was in my 20s i did not have much dick control i just did not i just didn't and and I would come like, I would try to not come, but you know, like that kind of sex isn't even that good. Cause you're like fucking and then you gotta stop and you're fucking then you gotta stop.

You're fucking then you gotta stop. It's like just not having control of your own dick. It sucks, you know? And I read a book called the multi-orgasmic male. Have you ever heard of that book, Taylor? No, I never have. Download it now. And check out the multi-orgasmic male. You know heard of that book taylor no i never have download it now and check out the multi-orgasmic mail you know it's kind of a spiritual vibe it's kind of got some

stuff you're going to do some exercises you're going to masturbate and learn how to kind of control your own you're going to feel your balls and like when you realize what happens when you actually met when you actually come you know your balls tense there's a process that happens so if you become aware of that process you can actually learn to i don't know just just slow it down just slow it down and then when it starts to happen i don't know you just become more aware become more aware the more awareness you have the more the more control you have and then so i did all of that and that was all very helpful but then i'll tell you I mean this is also a plug, but it's not because it's true I found weed. Okay marijuana. Do you smoke marijuana Taylor? I do here and there. I'm not against it

I'm not like a regular user, but I definitely do have you ever smoked marijuana and then had sex No, I have not. Okay. Oh so We're gonna I'm gonna have some sex weed sent over here. Okay for Taylor. Hey I'm down marketing a special thing called. I I have a thing called. It's actually called sex. I want to try sex weed Yeah, i'll send over a couple boxes and then taylor Smoke the weed smoke the sex weed. Okay And then have sex and you're gonna see that you you have such control over your orgasm It's it's it's a fucking trip the problem is that then you're not

going to want to have sex without weed but like that's where i'm at quite honestly because when i when i smoke weed i have i have total i call it tdc total dick control i just have total fucking like how long can you go for as long as i want like you could go for an hour as long as I mean I'm asking I'm asking my partner like like once I can there's a point when when you just can't come much more yeah you're just like okay but then usually like I'll say can you come again and they'll be like I cannot come again and I'll make you can come one more time then I'll have them come one more time and like can you come again like I don't I'm fucking I cannot. I think you have one more in you. And then at that point, I'll be like, okay, it's time to come.

But yeah, the weed. So Taylor, I fucking feel for you. And there's a lot of men out there who are like, it's just, it's normal. It's normal. And it's about, you know, because you want to please someone. You want to give someone the best of you. And so you have to put so much pressure on yourself. And then the ego gets involved. And then you can't have good sex if you're in your own head.

Can I give a hot tip to guys? This is a hot tip. Let's see your hot tip. So Michael just started smoking cigars. Not too often, but once in a while. Not too often, here and there. And they boost your testosterone like nothing. It's a pogo stick.

I don't know about for everybody, but for me, for whatever reason. No, no, no. I googled it. Something with the nicotine. Cigars give you some kind of testosterone. And I'm telling you. I think it just opened up the blood flow everywhere. If there is something that happens, it is like sex on steroids.

Really? I just taught him something. I taught you something. Do you know what it is? Maybe similar to the weed. What it does is it puts me like, it really relaxes me. There's something testosterone.

I think that maybe just smoking a cigar, because I don't think that that's true necessarily. Nicotine can actually get in the way of an erection. But I think for him, maybe smoking a cigar is this thing where he just feels like a fucking man Well, I think nicotine from cigarettes is not like it's because you know, you don't inhale a cigar. That's true It's just in your mouth

Yeah And you just but did you get and you don't have the same like a cigarette does it give you a feeling of just being? Masculine when you're smoking. Yeah, and it relaxes me which is important Like oh, I'm not gonna be left alone. So right so it's so it's so it's being relaxed That is totally important. And it's also allowing your masculine energy to just be. Sure. Because a lot of men are very afraid of being men. I mean, I don't know if you're kind of more of a submissive lover,

if you're more of a dominant lover. We switch. You switch around a little bit. Okay. You know, I think it's like I don't drink as much alcohol anymore. At some point, if you keep going, it just gets in your way. Alcohol and sex do not mix. Yeah.

And I just kind of... There's nothing good about it. Yeah. And I've kind of, over the years, I've just done less and less. I'm like, I want some kind of vice to just chill, relax. Yeah. Cigar is good. Trust me.

Except for maybe for... Okay. Maybe for women, though. I think alcohol and sex for men is stupid. Yeah. That's what i've found i found that men when they drink they they're too much in their ego and they're too much in their performative mind and then the sexuality becomes that and it's not great there's no

sensation but but but but men who smoke weed it's a different kind of a thing because it's a you're you're kind of more open and you know like how music sounds better food tastes better yeah sex is like that too it's just for a man i think but for women i i do notice it so what do you like i like a little champagne a little champagne exactly it gives you a little sparkle i like a margarita it all loosens me up i mean my ex-wife was the same way yeah i like she needed a little something but i agree with it's not it's different yeah yeah Where can everyone find you? Are you single, available, looking? Like, where do people, how do people, like, find you, like, to hang out with?

Because there might be some girls that want to. And where can everyone apply if they want to apply? That's very strange and sweet that you would say that. Yeah. Well, so the website for the club is alicianvip.com. One word, alicianvip.com. And then we have alicianhouse on Instagram. I'm fatherdamon on Instagram,

but I don't really get on there too much anymore. I'm kind of unplugged from social media a bit. I looked at your Instagram. It's elusive. I like it. I don't really need to be on there very much. I love people. I love meeting your Instagram. It's elusive. I like it. I don't really need to be on there very much. I love people. I love meeting new people. I think probably the best is just to go in through Elysian House.

Maybe apply to come to a party. And then you could come say hi to me or something like that. But yeah, I'm kind of really happy right now. I got a nice small circle. But yeah, if someone wants to get in touch with me you know through through alician hey and and shannon you know we it's really if you're on our website you can click on um and and you can you know call my concierge directly my assistant who is here yeah i'm not hard to get in touch with and where did we get the sex weed the sex weed is sexweed.com that's

kind of a cool website name yeah that is a cool website sexweed.com yeah and it's is sexweed.com. That's kind of a cool website name. That is a cool website. Sexweed.com. Yeah, and it's called Sexweed, literally. So the next time. Oh, wait. Oh, I got another little thing. You go. So we just got into our first store. So we've been doing home delivery for Sexweed.

So you have to go on the website and get it delivered to your house, which is how we've been doing it, which has been great. But now this place called Pleasure Med in Los Angeles. It's the only store I wanted to get into because really the the whole the thing with stores is a little you don't want to get in whole foods i don't think they're going to sell marijuana and whole foods not yet anywhere no but yeah so pleasure med for sex weed or the website a listening house for for for the parties and and yeah if someone really wants to get to find me it'll happen you know like, the right people just kind of gravitate into the circle and we meet them.

And yeah. That was a fun episode. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Thank you for coming on. That was a blast. Well, you guys made it easy. Now we got you on speed dial for the threesome.

You were the best. I'm going to text you for a threesome. No, but really, really. Whether you for a threesome but really really whether you have the threesome or not come experience a party someday I want to see a party

I would love to come to a party yeah maybe I'll run into someone who's listening and you don't have to have sex with anyone or anything like that

I just want to experience just come experience it and you guys can talk you guys are tight you guys are tight thank you Damon thank you legend

thank you damon thank you legend thank you