The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Dr. Dendy Engelman On The Best Kept Skin Secret For Youthful, Hydrated, & Glowing Skin Featuring Eric Neher Of Canopy

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

#313: On today's episode we are joined by Dr. Dendy Engleman MD, FACMS, FAAD, a board-certified and nationally-acclaimed dermatologic surgeon to discuss one of the best kept secrets for youthful, hydrated, & glowing skin. We are also joined by Eric Neher who is the head of marketing at Canopy which is a humidifier that is changing the way we take care of our skin. We also discuss tips and tricks that will keep your skin fresh and hydrated.  To connect with Dr. Dendy Engelman click HERE To connect with Eric Neher click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Canopy Canopy is a completely reimagined humidifier that elevates your home for the ultimate in skincare and wellness benefits. Skincare experts and dermatologists have long touted the benefits of increased indoor humidity for healthy, glowing skin. Canopy’s features and design make it the cleanest and easiest humidifier out there go to www.getcanopy.co to save $25 on your Canopy purchase today when you opt in to a replacement filter subscription. Use code SKINNY10 at checkout to save an additional 10% off your Canopy purchase. This episode is brought to you by No Days Wasted Their hero product is called DHM Detox, which is the vitamin for people who like to enjoy their drinks. It’s designed to help you bounce back the next day. Get 20% off your order and free shipping in the US. Just head over to www.NoDaysWasted.CO/SKINNY and use promo code "SKINNY” at checkout This episode is brought to you by MANSCAPED Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, MANSCAPED™ all the way. Give the best present of all this holiday season...MANSCAPED™- the company that offers precision-engineered tools for your man’s family jewels. Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code SKINNY at www.manscaped.com  This episode is brought to you by Pique Tea Ever since I discovered Pique Tea, I’ve been obsessed. I now incorporate at least a cup of Pique into my daily routine and it’s really been increasing my productivity levels. Pique Teas are made from organic high quality tea leaves and ingredients sourced from around the world, delivering up to 12x more antioxidants than any ofor heavy metals, pesticides and toxic mold so you know you’re getting the best stuff.    Use code “SKINNY” for 10% off piquetea.com. They rarely (if ever) have sales so you’d definitely want to check this out! P.S. This discount does not apply to their fermented pu’er due to their limited quantity.ther tea. What’s better is that they are all Triple Toxin Screened Produced By Dear Media 

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Our sebaceous glands aren't as active and they don't put out as much oil as they used to. So anyone who's concerned about the aging effects of skin should certainly have their humidifier running at night. Hello, hello. Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Dr. Dendi Engelman. She is a surgeon, specifically a medical dermatology cosmetic surgeon. She has an amazing Instagram. She's beautiful. And on the show also, we have Eric Nyer. He is the head of marketing at Canopy, one of our favorite brands. We're going to get into why it's one of our favorite brands in this episode. I think you're going to love this if you're a beauty guru.

And I just want to give you guys some backstory right now on this very particular introduction that we're doing right now at this second, the night before it released. As many of you guys know that listen to the show. We do a lot of the episodes. We record. And then we go back and we do an introduction after. So that we don't have to waste the guest time with us doing these introductions. And thank God they're not here.

Because Lauren, for this one. Guys, I'm not kidding. That was her ninth take to get through that introduction. She is so hungover right now. I am so hungover. It was painful. Do you know how many times I just had to hit record? I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. I'm so, so, so hungover. It was painful. Do you know how many times I just had to hit record? I'm sorry.

I'm just being honest. I'm so, so, so hungover. I went over to a friend's house last night and we ended up having 500 margaritas. And by the end of the night, we were taking shots of her breast milk. Well, listen, I don't know about that. I don't know. Breast milk is good, by the way. I don't agree.

It's a little bit sour, a little bit sweet. You had some of mine. I had some of yours and also one of our friends that, I won't get into that. That's a whole nother story. I put some in your coffee once too when you didn't know it and you drank the whole coffee and liked it. I'm not a fan. But let me tell you guys, Born, you are about as useless as an asshole on the elbow right

now. You are not doing, this is painful to get through this introduction with you. And I just want you to know that I am really irritated. I'm doing everything I can to hold back my irritation. I'm cringing at myself and how hungover I am. I was pretty unproductive today. I did read a little bit and worked out. But other than that, I didn't get much done. I highly don't recommend going and having 6,000 margaritas and breast milk shots. You will wake up with a pounding headache. I thought I was offsetting the tequila with the breast milk shot because there's so many benefits in breast milk. If that's what you and your friends do for

fun, I don't know. You got to get different friends. And also, I just want to let you know that it's a really good thing that this episode is all about hydration today because you could use it, buddy. I'm drinking 200 Topo Chico's and I have this hangover secret that I'm going to talk about in this show. And that definitely helped my hangover. So those are my two tips when you're hungover. It is like talking to a wall. Yeah. I'm annoyed with myself. So I can only imagine how annoyed you are. It is very irritating. And also before any of you write in, and trust me, I'm in the same boat with all of you. When Lauren pronounces the word surgeon as sergeant, I also want to rip my ears off. Why do people care how I pronounce words?

Well, it's not that like, listen, I give you in your, we all know that me listening to you on this show, the listeners, we all know you're not the best at pronouncing words. Yes. But like who cares? I don't care that much, except when you have're not the best at pronouncing words. Who cares? I don't care that much except when you have to do the same take over and over. Surgeon. Surgeon. Surgent. There's no such thing. And is it treadmill? It's treadmill. Treadmill. And it's breakfast, not

breakfast. I know, but like I... There's a million other things. We can write them. Listen, I read some of the reviews of people complaining about the... It's unproductive waste of energy. I'm in it with you guys. I fully get it. I'm just as irritated as everyone else with the pronunciation. I just can't say it.

Really? It irritates you? It's getting a bit much, Lauren. Why? I think I've reached my limit with this introduction because we've been here. This is going to be a four or five minute introduction that took us literally as long as the interview took us. Well, I'm sorry.

I don't know what to say about it. Pass the Topo Chico. All right, guys. Well, you know, we won't, I won't drag you through this. Like I've been drugged through it. Let's, let's get right into the episode. Lauren, let's, can you get through the, can you introduce our guests? I can introduce our dad. Taylor, leave that part in. I want, I want people to see, introduce the guests. I want people to see what's going on here, what I'm dealing with. I feel like my brain has been stomped on. Hello, this is Lauren's brain. I have left the building. I am gone. It's no longer here. All right. Sometimes you just need like a blackout breast milk moment.

I actually just want him to leave this. Let's get through the introduction. I can do it. Dr. Dendy. She is a board certified surgeon. You like that, Michael? Wow. Round of applause. Medical and dermatology and cosmetic special. Keep it specialist. Okay. Keep going. Medical dermatology and cosmetic specifically. And then we also have Eric Neier and he is the head of marketing at Canopy. Canopy is this insane humidifier. I have been obsessed with humidifiers forever. I have one by my bed. I have one in my bathroom. I have one

in Zaza's room. I think that they are so full of benefits, especially for your skin. They promote healing with the skin. They help irritated eyes. They add moisture to the air all year round. They plump the skin. They also maintain a healthy environment when you're sleeping. And so I just became obsessed with humidifiers a couple of years ago. I cannot stop talking about them. I tell everyone I know it's one of my number one beauty tips. So I reached out to Canopy and wanted to get the details of a humidifier. So we have a doctor on to give that perspective. And then we also have the head of marketing to pick his brain. We get into everything in this episode, everything skin. Okay. By the time this episode's over, you are going to know everything about how to plump the fuck out of your skin. With that,

let's welcome Dr. Dendi and Eric to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. I am so excited for this episode. I feel like it's going to go all over the place. So we can get some context. Can you each introduce yourself and talk on how you know each other and how you're involved together? I am Dendi Engelman. I'm a dermatologist in New York City and I have specialized in lasers and aesthetics and skin cancer surgery. And I recently joined a plastic surgery colleague of mine named David Schaefer and I work at Schaefer Clinic on 5th Avenue and 44th. And I'm so happy. We have like three stories of this, of so many beauty tools and we have the OR

in our office so we can do everything in-house. And I just started September 22nd. So it's very recent, but I'm very happy. So you're back in office now. Yep. With everything with COVID, you had to stop. I didn't see patients for six weeks, but I started back April 30th. Amazing. But I imagine with what you do, like you've probably seen an uptick in patients wanting

to come and see you. Wild. I mean, like can't even get them all in in and i think that's multifactorial right we've been working from home the video conferencing you're inundated by like your own image all the time people and selfies know their their angle right but when you're dynamic and moving and you're like jesus i didn't know that i had that extra chin or my jaw sucks or whatever and so people there's that and then we're not traveling. We're not going out as much. People have more money to spend.

Time to recover, right? Yeah. I mean, it's a great time to be recovering from something. I know. I should just go get a mommy makeover now. I'm going to wait till I'm done with my kids though. I told you. The swan.

Yeah. I'm going to do a full on fucking swan. Like walking down the runway, I want Michael to do a huge reveal. I want balloons. I want everything. You're easy because you started at 9.9, just moved you to a 10. Yeah, seriously. Okay, Eric, give us context. Who are you?

Okay, well, I'm Eric Nayer and I'm the head of marketing for Canopy. And I have spent the last decade or so doing marketing, business development for various beauty brands. I got into beauty in an interesting way. I always wanted to be an actor and I went to school to sing and dance and be in musical theater. Then when I realized that like I was going to have no control over that and it wasn't going to make me any money, I decided I wanted to switch, but I didn't know what I would do. So the last like survival job I had just to pay the bills, my friend who we've always helped each other get jobs and, you know, figure out how to live life. She said, I could get you a job selling lipstick. And it was for this brand called Lipstick Queen. That's Poppy King. She's this really cool Australian lady. She was my first

boss and she knows everything about lip colors. And so in Barney's and Henry Bendel's, et cetera, I sold lipsticks and lip glosses on the selling floor in those stores, which don't even exist anymore, which is crazy. But that's how I learned about the beauty customer, which is like super fascinating for me. So I moved into a couple of different roles. I worked at Birchbox for the majority of my career and getting samples out to millions of people every month, which was like an incredible experience. I also launched a private label beauty brand for Walmart. And then earlier this year, I was introduced to the team that ultimately we all went on to launch Canopy last month. And that's what I've been doing since then.

Humidifiers. I have been wanting to do an episode and I've done like 20 blog posts on this already on why I personally am such a huge fan of humidifiers, which is why I'm so intrigued with this product. And we wanted to bring on someone who was a part of our favorite humidifier company and also someone who had the expertise of a doctor. Like we want, I always say I want to do something that's like a medley. Like we want to talk about it. We want to talk to someone who's the expert. And then we want to talk about, you know, the marketing side. So first off, why does everyone need a humidifier in their house? I'll start. So as a dermatologist, I get people all the time who are like, my skin's so dry, or I've

got like dry scalp, and what do I do? And so I often will say, well, do you have a humidifier? And they'll say, yeah. And I'm like, do you use it? And they're like, no. And why is that, right? We invest in something and then we don't use it. And the reason is that they're gross. They get moldy. When I first started having babies, you know, you always put one on the registry and it looks like a teardrop or an elephant or something. And then my husband and I would literally like fight over who was going to have to clean it every week with like the Q-tips and the vinegar. And it's just gross. And eventually you're like, this is not worth the investment. And ironically, my son has eczema as the son of a dermatologist. And so we need to increase the ambient humidity in his room, but it was just such a pain. And so now

the canopy guys have like solved for all of those reasons why you don't use it by making it super easy to clean and it doesn't grow mold and fungus and all that stuff that can be aerosolized. And there are real studies that support that when we're in the optimal humidity zone of 40 to 60% humidity in the environment, our skin is better. It's more hydrated. The barrier function of the skin, keeping bad stuff out and good stuff in, is enhanced. You can help, it helps with sensitivities, dryness, redness, fine lines, wrinkles. And there are studies that show, there's one through the Skin Health Alliance out of the UK, that shows within 30 minutes of being in a less optimized environment of humidity, your skin starts to show breakdown. And so it's really important. And then if we think about COVID and overall wellness, of being in a less optimized environment of humidity, your skin starts to show breakdown.

And so it's really important. And then if we think about COVID and overall wellness, the CDC has said, if you're in more arid humidity climates, you are five times as likely to be infected by the influenza virus. So the reasons for that are twofold. One, if you have more humidity in the air, when you speak or cough or sneeze, the water that's in the air in the environment actually binds to the viral particles and makes them heavier. So they kind of are taken out of circulation so you can't inhale them. And the other is that you have more moisture and so you don't have dryness and cracking and fissuring of your mucous membranes like the lining of your nose. Because if that gets cracked and you have small portals of entry, then you're more prone to sickness. And so it's timely. No one thought we'd be in the middle of a pandemic when this launched. But it's really great, not only for skin health, but for overall body health. I first found out about humidifiers when my sister Mimi went to Korea. and I feel like Koreans are so on the pulse and avant-garde

when it comes to skin. And I was in Palm Springs with my husband and she's like, you need a humidifier by your bed. It's so dry here. And I was like, this isn't going to make that big of a difference. And she let me borrow hers for a night and we were both hooked. Never gave it back. Never gave it back.

What are some, I know you mentioned skin benefits, but what are some really micro benefits? Like does it clear your acne? Like get really specific with the skin side. I would say that it's probably best for, for if you have underlying like sensitivities, rosacea, eczema, dryness. And as we age, we inherently lose moisture in our skin, our sebaceous glands aren't as active, and they don't put out as much oil as they used to. So anyone who's concerned about the aging effects of skin should certainly have their humidifier running at night. I have one at work, I run all the time, and I have one right by my bed. And I will say that I sleep better,

and you think about how that permeates all aspects of life. And I breathe better, like from people who have chronic sinusitis or congestion or wake up and they're just like, kind of groggy. I definitely think that it's an improvement in overall quality of life. And I had run out because I obviously had one of the first prototypes, and I didn't have a filter. And I stopped, I wasn't able to use it for two weeks. And I could tell the difference even with my scalp. Oftentimes, I know it's warm here, but in New York, it's quite cold and in change of season, I would get like dry scalp. And I haven't had that because I've been using the humidifier since August. So there's all kinds of benefits, not only face, but hair health and scalp health. I want to ask you, because I think a lot of people don't really, like they

may have a humidifier at home, like, oh, I'm already good. But the reason we love this one so much is, you talked about mold. I think a lot of people don't even realize that their humidifiers are producing mold, right? They're like, a lot of people that have it are probably sitting there thinking like, wait a minute, I need to clean this thing.

That's what happened, our big one got mold. It was so gross. Yeah, and I think people don't realize that they need to think about that with their humidifier. Yeah, you may be actually aerosolizing particles that then you're inhaling, and that can cause all kinds of stuff, exacerbation of asthma. It can, you know, cause reactive airway where your airways are spasming. So heaven forbid, you're trying to do something that's good, but it's actually detrimental to your health. That's the worst

case scenario. So that's why I love like, there's no mold that grows, they have a paper filter, you can throw all this in the dishwasher. Like how easy is that? Hold up. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Something that I took today that truly helped so much. That is no days wasted. It is here to help you maximize life's moments.

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This is a no brainer. And of course, I got you 20% off your first order and free shipping in the US. Just head over to nodayswasted.co slash skinny and use promo code skinny at checkout. That's nodayswasted.co slash skinny. This week only for 20% off. Grab this, get it for a friend, get it for your husband, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, whatever. This is the best. What we found when we were talking to people about humidifiers, and I never dreamed I would talk to so many people about their humidifier,

but now I've talked to so many people. What we found was that people were going, like the really committed people like you, Lauren, were going to such great lengths to clean this thing, like a half an hour every Sunday or something like that. Oh, no, no, no, I'm not like that. I'm not cleaning shit like that. No, no, no, I haven't cleaned mine since 1992.

Lauren was going to no lengths to clean it. Mine has mold in it, and I probably gave Michael some disease or something. Well, it's a good thing you have canopy now, so you don't have to worry about it anymore. But we found that people said they were using vinegar to clean it. They were using Q-tips to clean it. And you look at these things, and it's like, who thought up the shape of the part? Who thought up the shape of the part? It's the most difficult to clean thing you've ever seen.

And so just in creating a feature set for this product that was going to alleviate those things, the reactions that was elicited as we talked to people about their humidifiers, people are passionate about it. The same way, Dendi, you said that your husband and you used to fight about who was going to clean it. It's a real thing.

It was a chore. Yeah, so we found that this mold growth was a huge thing to address. And so we have a proprietary technology that we developed all ourselves that prevents mold from growing inside the humidifier. Do you want me to tell you about how that works? So tell us at all. Yeah. So, so it's actually everyone else. It's really cool. Well, so the reason why mold is going to grow inside a humidifier is because of standing water left behind. That's like where mold can grow. And when you see a typical humidifier, most people are familiar with what's called an ultrasonic humidifier. It has mist coming out the top of it. You see that like chimney of steam coming out.

And the ultrasonic humidifier has an element that helps it work that will break if it's completely dry inside. So those humidifiers are created to stop running when there's still a little bit of water inside to stop it from breaking. And we flipped that completely on its head. Canopy has smart persistent airflow, which we call SPA, which is the fun acronym for it. And basically what that means is that it's going to keep on running until it's absolutely bone dry inside and there's no water left inside. No water left inside means that mold can't grow there. And it actually keeps running like against your will as a user in certain cases,

because if you were to push the button and turn canopy completely off and there was still water left inside, 30 minutes later, canopy would turn back on so that it could keep running and dry out completely inside. Or I tell people like, first of all, it's really energy efficient. It's five times more energy efficient than like your average humidifier. And it's a USB power source. So, you know, it's like in the modern age as opposed to what a lot of what you see out there. And so you can run it. Like I tell people, if you're going to go away for a week and you just

leave canopy on when you leave, that's actually kind of the best thing you could do because what's going to happen is it'll run and run and run until it's completely dry inside. And then it'll shut off. You come home and you refill the tank. And as soon as it senses water again, it's actually going to turn right back on on the setting that you left it at. So it's really thinking about how to be like completely hands off for you. You don't really have to do anything. Let's talk about how you guys disrupted the space.

So we had Sean Neff on who is known as the brand whisperer and he talks about how he would go to right aid and he would walk down all the aisles and see what needed an update so he went down one day the toothpaste aisle and saw that there was no cute toothpaste everything's disgusting we all want it in our drawer if you're taylor you want it like underneath your bed because it's probably like it has mold on it like it's just like it needed like a freshen up. So we started Moon. And with you guys, I feel like you did the same thing. You said earlier, why is it shaped like this?

Why does it look like this? And you guys started asking these questions that no one else was asking. Why is there mold? And you disrupted the space. Why are these things so big? That was the other thing. Why are these things so big?

So can you speak on like the pain points? I know you did a little bit, but a little bit more of the pain points that you saw and why you chose to disrupt this space. Yeah. So it's interesting. There are pain points from like a few different perspectives that I think about. There are the pain points from just a functionality perspective. So I talked about mold and that's a huge one.

Lauren, you and Michael, you both said they're so ugly. They're bulky. They don't look cute, you know? And so that's a huge pain point that people talk about. The difficult to maintain and taking a lot of time to clean and maintain. That's another one. And also the potential for it to be like unhealthy and dirty. I think some people are attuned to that, but not not all right. So so so those were the sort of pain points that we thought about. And, you know, we really just went down that list, kind of like exactly like you said, Lauren, and, and thought about all the things that we could do to make this the easiest and the best.

So we already talked about spa, which keeps the mold from growing. I talked a little bit about the user interface that is really intuitive and actually kind of thinks for you. So we have an auto mode where you can set it manually to low, medium or high. But what auto mode does is it actually responds to the amount of light in the room. And so we know that overnight, and Dendi, you know better, way better than I do, but overnight, you're going to lose a lot more water because of just normal overnight water loss. And also, you're not drinking any water. You're not eating anything that's going to hydrate you.

So when it's dark in the room, canopy will kick up to a higher setting so that you get more moisture while you're sleeping. Then when it's light in the room, like it is right now, it assumes that either you're out, like normal circumstances, we would be out of our houses, right? But, or you're awake and you're like drinking green juice and you're eating stuff that's giving you hydration. And so canopy actually kicks down

when the lights are on so that it saves water and can actually, this small tank can run a lot longer for you. That was another thing you said, Michael, they're so big. You know, we knew we needed to make it compact and also look really, really beautiful on somebody's nightstand. We talked to people who said that they're always trying to find a place to hide this, you know, like hide a humidifier, put it like in the corner of the room where you don't have to see it. We wanted to flip that whole thing and make this a really covetable thing

that people use for beauty and wellness and that they're really proud to have on their nightstand. Then one other thing that we thought about, people are also using aroma diffusers a lot. That's like really big in self-care and wellness. This is what I'm obsessed with because you guys did it into one. Yeah, exactly. So you don't have to have two huge lumbering things. Lauren's got like 18 gadgets in the room. I'm like, I've got gadgets and gizmos aplenty.

I'm totally a little mermaid. So talk to us about, you were going to speak on it, but just the diffuser part is so important to someone like me. Yeah, totally. So actually the same science that's behind like the misting humidifier, that it's actually just spitting whatever is in that water that's in your tank. That could be metals, it could be mold, it could be bacteria. It's just spitting that out into the air. So those particles are actually coming out into the air, you could breathe them in, or they could land on your skin. So part of what canopy does is it's evaporative technology, there's a filter inside canopy, a paper filter. And so all of that nasty stuff that's in the water is actually being caught on the filter before anything comes

out of canopy. So I should say, one big thing, we are anti mist in the humidifier world, we are the anti mist movement, like you know that's that's that's what we're doing you shouldn't want to see mist coming out of your humidifier because if you do chances are there's something in it that you don't want in your hair so the filter is going to catch all that stuff it's totally invisible you won't see anything coming out but it's working and and you should know that's doing great stuff for your skin and for your health but to go back to the aroma diffusion same thing goes for those aroma diffusers that everybody's like using now everybody puts essential oils in the

water and you have the aroma coming out it's like nice it helps you go to sleep whatever but you could be getting nasty stuff that's in the water also essential oils if you add that in we know people are slowly poisoning what the hell you've been giving me this slow poison it reminds me of that movie where the like it slow, little, tiny poison. I'm actually nervous now. You get your daily dose of mercury. Yeah, whatever. I mean, not just a daily.

I'm probably getting like 15 doses of more than normal because she's got these things all over the place. Yeah, sorry. I don't mean to turn your whole household plan on its head. No, this is efficient. It puts it all in one. Right. So we did aroma diffusion with this too, and it's a really cool way to do it. There's actually a ceramic puck

that just goes right on the top grade of canopy and we give you a little Roma kit that you can like start getting going with and you put the little ceramic puck on top and you just drop the oils onto the top of the puck and the oil actually just evaporates naturally. It's just like leaving- But anyone can use any oil they want,

like with the puck? Totally, yeah. You could use any oil you want and we actually have a great brand that we work with that's providing the oils for the kits we're giving people. But, yeah, it's like whatever aroma you like or however you like to use that, just do it with Canopy and you don't have to think about the other device. That is amazing. We have one at the office and every time patients come in, they're like, it smells amazing in here. And I'm like, thank you.

It's really nice. I it's just subtle, not overdone. And people, you know, everyone wants to lean into essential oils because they think that they're natural and they're great for you. They can be quite caustic either to the skin or to the airway. And a lot of people get reactions from them. So you want it to be formulated specifically in a proper way so that you're not actually ingesting some of these oils that may not be good for you. I also heard that with babies and dogs, that there's certain oils, like if you're burning oils or diffusing them or whatever at your house, it's important to look into what's in the oil because it can hurt dogs and babies. This is a fact someone told me. When I was little,

I remember I had croup. And I remember my mom taking me in the shower and like doing all the steam. And then I remember her putting me to bed and I had this. I don't know if you guys remember this. It was like a huge. You probably had one of these. A huge tan humidifier. It was this big. And on top of it was brown.

And everyone had one in their house. And it was horrendous. We didn't have that. Yeah. You probably had like a new age one that your mom bought. Okay. We had the like. I'm spoiled. Yeah. I don't had the like, I really am spoiled.

Yeah. Yours was encrusted in diamonds and gold. Mine was brown and tan and it was lumbering and ugly. Anyways, why do you see so many people using humidifiers for stuff like croup or coughs or colds? Like what, why does everyone always reach for the humidifier when that happens?

Yeah. Because when we talk about like the health of your airway and your nasal passages and all of that, if you're dry and dehydrated and then they're cracked and fissured or you make it nosebleeds, that's actually a very dangerous state for your mucous membranes. If you think about like the lungs are breathing in everything from the environment. And so they're kind of the first line of defense in in addition to our skin, of trying to keep that stuff out. But if we're not optimized in that passage health, then we can get sick much more readily. And so that was the concept, to try to raise it to the ideal humidity level so that those mucous membranes are healthiest,

and they protect you against everything we're breathing in. It's amazing we don't walk around sick more often. I mean, thinking about what all we put ourselves into. And then certainly in New York and LA and places that are more urban, I mean, pollution particles, all of that can like age us, it can accelerate, you know, free radical damage and all kinds of things. So we really want to have that barrier optimized so that we we stay well and healthy. Zaza's eye was like really dry. And it and we just couldn't figure out what it was. We took her to Austin. It cleared up in one day. And it was so crazy to see because I honestly think LA and the pollution,

I think people, if you are going to live in a city that has all this shit in the air, you need to be having your home really be a sanctuary, especially now that we're in it all the time. I need to be having your home really be a sanctuary, especially now that we're in it all the time. I mean, it's so important. You are a skin expert. We're speaking on skin with the humidifier. What are three skin tips that we can be doing in quarantine that are going to make a big difference? Jingle balls, jingle balls, manscaped all the way that's right we're talking about what's going on below the waist and you know what will really light up my christmas tree michael what line is a little manscaping down there i do a lot of manscaping down there not too much but just

god thank god michael has the manscaped performance. Every single man needs this to groom above and below the belt. You guys thought that you could just get away with brushing your hair and slapping some sunscreen on your face. But now I'm here to tell you that is not the case. I never thought it was the case. I don't get these guys that want to just let it flow and get all wacky all over the place. I never understood it.

I mean, I feel like I'm a good friend and a good wife because I got you and Taylor the Manscaped performance package. And this comes with a weed whacker, which Taylor totally needs. It's for ear and nose hair. And this is so nice because now I don't have to look at everyone's nose hairs hanging down their lip. I'm as slick as a baby seal right now down there. Thank God that I got you the weed whacker.

Did you guys know that 79% of partners admitted that long nose hair is a major turnoff? Michael, Taylor, I'm here to tell you that it is. Well, thanks to Manscaped, Lauren. I'm not turning you off. I am doing the exact opposite because I am trimmed up. I am cleaned out. I am good to go. You actually used the lawnmower. I walked in on you the other day and this is this. Definitely wasn't my best moment, but the things I do to keep it fresh and tidy down there. Thank God that you have the lawnmower. Did I mention that you also get a sexy new pair of boxers to keep your junk smelling fresh, guys? They also have boxers that keep your junk smelling good. And I know they work because Taylor told me.

And this is like the perfect guinea pig for that situation. Get 20% off and free shipping with code SKIN skinny at manscaped.com. Ladies, I'm telling you, this is the perfect gift for you and your man. Ladies, do yourself a favor. Don't just do it for him. Do it for you. Trust me, he'll thank you. Get 20% off and free shipping with the code skinny at manscaped.com. That's 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com. Use code skinny. Your jingle balls will thank you. microbiome and like the good organisms that are on the skin and those functions of really keeping the skin junction those cells tight like if you think of the model of the skin being a brick wall the skin cells are the bricks and the mortar is like ceramides and fatty acids and they're really tight and they keep as a fortress away from you know bacteria viruses fungi pollution everything

that can cause damage in the skin. And as we age, the ceramide levels drop significantly by like 46% by the time you hit 30. And so the mortar, that brick wall is falling down. And that's why people develop sensitivities and rosacea and redness over time, because those junctions aren't quite as tight. And they may be more prone to superficial skin infections. So the more you can fortify that, the better. And there are some that I really like. A lot of hyaluronic acids are great. There's one by a company called Skin Better called Trio that's really lovely. And it helps to hydrate the skin and really strengthen the barrier. So that's one, make sure adequate hydration. Two, if you haven't started a retinol

or a vitamin A derivative, this is the time. We're at home. We're not interfacing with so many people. That induction period of peeling or redness and whatever, who cares? Let's push through it because that is still kind of the gold standard for building collagen, elastin, really helping to stave off signs of aging and reverse signs of aging. It's never too late. Some people are like, oh, I'm already 45. Like, should I even bother? Yeah, absolutely you should. So the things that always deterred people were like, well, I can't start it this week because I've got a big event or whatever.

You know, there was always something. Yeah. Because what? Because you get your skin appeal? You don't have a retinol. You need to get one. Or do you have Dr. Dennis Gross? Is it the brown one?

Yeah, he actually does have a retinol. I like it. That's the key and consistency with it. I mean, that was a game changer for my skin. agree it really is you got your humidifier it's funny it's like for me like you would think that i would be i'm actually maybe taking worse care of my skin in quarantine like as you're talking i gotta think about it because it's just maybe because i'm at home and like i had a routine when i was going into this office all the time and i'll go that's the skin and now i'm just like at home so i forget forget to do it. You need to get on it. You used to have a 10 step routine.

I'm starting to go backwards. Yeah. You're starting to go backwards. I got him Botox, which I think looks great. And he has this retinol, which he needs to use. And he has this humidifier by his bed. And you're drinking your fucking celery juice with cayenne. Yeah, I take care of it more than most men, I think,

but not as much as I probably should know. What are some things men can do? If a woman's out there and she wants to manipulate her significant other into getting something, what's the procedure to get? I have had a wonderful time recently. The FDA just approved Voluma, which is a dermal filler. It's hyaluronic acid. They just approved it in June for chin augmentation.

And you can make a guy so much more attractive if you build out the chin in a way that nobody can tell. It's very subtle, but they're just like, you look great. And, you know, we think about that. We're like, you know, the insult that you would say is, oh, he has a weak jaw. That's not, you know, for men, that is a very important quality that you have for being attractive. You want a strong jaw, right? These are things that we say. And it's not just like take one on the chin with someone who hits you. Aesthetically, if it's more chiseled, they're more attractive. Think of all the leading men or those who like groom it really tight if they draw do a little beard just to try to fake that it's like more of a distinct jawline. And that has been so much fun, but also one where guys are often,

if they're not very kind, but if they're straight, they're really worried that people are going to be like, oh, you went and did something. So they want to make sure it flies under the radar often. And I think also we need to let the guys celebrate their beauty. Normalize it. Who cares? Let's get you a jaw. Let's get you a chin.

Let's go in. I'm down to do whatever I got to do to hold myself together. You two are looking great. But it's always, we all need help. And the reality is like if you were born with what's called a micronathlete or retronathlete, just means like smaller, more receding chin, then we should definitely do it. But over time, we also restore bones. So the whole jaw is actually shrinking.

And that's why if you think about like a little old lady, like their face is really small. And so things start to sag because the whole framework of the face is actually shrinking. And that's why if you think about like a little old lady, like their face is really small. And so things start to sag because the whole framework of the face is actually deteriorating. So in my list of questions to ask God when I meet him, it's like, why do we lose collagen, elastin? You're taking our whole, like our bone structure away. Why do we have cellulite, varicose veins? You know, I have a long list. I'm sure you have a long scroll to talk to him about. What are some things that you see women doing more of that are unique and niche? Body is having a big moment for me. I mean, everyone's coming in and they really want to like, you know, focus on their tear

trough things because we're wearing masks. But, you know, there have been and you and I actually met about the first, well, not the first time, but when we were both on an ad board for this new injectable that helps with cellulite, it's called Quo and it'll come out in March. And I've just been able to use it first. I did it all myself. I'll show you later. But it is great because men don't have that. They don't have cellulite. 93% of women do. And that, you know, it's for those dimples that you can't exercise away. It's just really the fiber septic that are pulling on the skin and tethering it and making an indent. And

so there's an injectable now that will be out and it dissolves that collagen and lysis those bands so that you can release that. And it's amazing the difference before and afters are great. And so there's all kinds. Dermatology is like one of the best specialties in the world, because if we don't have it now in six months, we probably will like everything just keeps getting better. And we're discovering so many new ways to go after things that don't that we don't like that we want to change. And I don't ever feel guilty about if we don't like something to do something about it, if

we can, you know, if you come to me and you're like, I don't like the size of my hand, we might have to live with that. Like, that's difficult to change. But if you don't, you know, if this dimple bothers you, or you come to me and you're like, I don't like the size of my hand, we might have to live with that. Like, that's difficult to change. But if you don't, you know, if this dimple bothers you or you don't wear yoga pants out because you feel like, you know, you have like little divots in your buns. These are great things that change, really change your happiness level. And so I always, I have to hold people's hands who come in who are like, I shouldn't be doing this. You know, the world is ending. It's quarantine, you know.

And I'm like, you absolutely should be doing this. This makes you a better person. You gonna be a better wife mom worker everything if you feel better about how you present pretty soon though the robot arms are gonna come in the future and i'm gonna have these really strong yeah you can get a robot girlfriend you can cheat on me i'm gonna have like a one of those like retract like the arms that can like you know like inspect your gadget yeah dandy will be back telling you about that. Huge, huge biceps. Like, just, like, press a button and be like. I'm seeing that there is also a lot of filler happening.

And my thing with filler is I think it's great, but I notice that a lot of people use too much. And it ages them. It does. And it gives you a pillow face. Yep. And this is something that I just think. I don't know if this is right. I just think, I don't know if this is right. I just think that. Can you speak on that? Absolutely. I combat that like media, you know,

overdone face every day when people are doing their first visit and they're so worried that it's going to look done or too much. And so my aesthetic is always to be, I would say the best work is undetectable. New York isable that you... New York is different than LA. New York is different from LA. My LA girls will like schedule on the way out their next lip injection. I'm like, don't you want to see what it looks like at that point? They're like, it's like they're getting their nails done or their highlights. They're like, okay, I'll be back in however many.

But New York is a bit more subtle. One of the few things we're subtle about is kind of like not wanting people to know. And when we see filler that's been like, basically, when you think someone's aging beautifully, they just have good work. No one has no work at this point that you're like looking up to. It's just that they have like undetectable work that's very subtle and tiny tweaks that help to combat the changes that occur over time and aging truly starts to be apparent on the skin at 25 years old. So it's not old. And so the younger girls get it. They're all in. They're ready for whatever, you know, kind of keeping, what's it

called? Holding them off of the path. Heading them off of the path. Like they're preventative. Yeah. So they want baby Botox. They want a little bit, the first sign of volume loss, they're really there to be injected. And sometimes I have to be like, wait, you know, we don't need this yet. I think I got Botox when I was 21. Okay. I was 27. Yeah. And my 11. Yeah. And it is, I mean, I'll be 44. But Botox is different than like filler. I mean, I don't know the full difference, but I mean, it's how so Michael Boston, because it's, I mean, it's like the thing you, when you got a little Botox, I was very minor. And that goes away after how long? Three months.

Filler goes away too. Sure. Sorry, we interrupted you. Go on. Sorry. No, you're fine. Oh, so yes, I really do like the preventative part. And I do think you can go overboard with filler.

But what I always tell patients is like one syringe is one fifth of a teaspoon. It's not a lot of volume. When we see people who have like the shelf or, you know, kind of look like an avatar or Maleficent with like the cheekbones that are just crazy and non-human, they have like 20 syringes and it's a lot, but you have to really be dedicated to overfilling. And I do find that if we start early, the more you do, the less you need. And so it's really nice to be able to like help people age beautifully and gracefully, but age appropriate too. If you're 50 and you want to look 18, like who are we kidding? Yeah, I agree. I think too, I noticed, and I talk about this a lot, like when someone has

too much, when you just said you called the shelf and they have too much filler in the eye, it squishes the eye up and it makes your eye look smaller. It does. And I also think you have to pay attention to trends, which is why the humidifier is so amazing because it's not, that's not a trend. When you're, when you see something that someone has, I'll give an example, like Pamela Anderson back in the day had those huge bolt-on boobs. And now if you see those bolt-on boobs, you think, oh, that woman's like 40 or 50 because automatically our brain just knows that that was when the trend of bolt-on boobs were popular oh that woman's like 40 or 50 because automatically our brain just knows that that was when the trend of bolt-on boobs were popular i hadn't thought about it that way but that's so true but it's so crazy it's gonna happen with tattoos right yeah like when

he's 50 people are gonna know he's 50 because tattoos were popular at our age even like the french manicure acrylic tip like if you see a woman that has that, you're like, oh, she's not. And maybe that's changing because the tip is kind of coming back. But like, you know, like they're like 50. So I think with even filler and Botox and plastic surgery and, you know, the Brazilian butt lift, like you have to be careful that you're actually not putting yourself in this time machine where people know exactly how old you are by what kind of surgery you have. Yeah, that's a great point. Like if you want to be trendy, go with fashion,

but don't do it on your face. You know, like fashion Nova Zara, but let's not go to face. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's true, though, right? Like it's you have to be careful you're not going for a trend. Yes, for sure. And like I see there's a lot of injectors on Instagram, like they're doing like, really like, crazy angle jaws with like four or five syringes each angle, like on each side. And they're super masculine. I mean, it's almost like a right angle. And that is actually not the aesthetic feminine aesthetic. And so where are they going to what's going to happen? These girls are like 25. And then you know, it's going to look not great as we get older. The other thing that happens if you do too much at a young age is you actually lose the appearance of being young.

You're kind of age androgynous, but you don't, like Kylie Jenner, she looks 35. She doesn't look like she's in her 20s. She looks great, but it's like, what's that going to look like at 35? The reason I think we're doing this is to preserve more youthful appearance, but sometimes it can definitely age you. I agree. I know what you the reason i think we're doing this preserve more youthful appearance but sometimes it can definitely age you i agree i know what you're saying like you and that's an interesting word age and drug how did you say it androgynous so you don't know kind of how yeah someone you're kind of like we don't even know where to bucket them in a decade is that

person 50 or 25 they could be either and i believe you yeah yeah yeah we get in trouble now because we and i won't name names, but we have friends and acquaintances that do exactly what you're talking about. And like, I'll meet them through Lauren and I'll think they're like 30, 35 year old women. And they're like 20, 22, 23. And it's crazy.

It's just not what I remember 22, 23 year olds looking like. And you really like have to be careful not to be like, oh wow, I thought you were so much older than that. Yeah, because it's like, what does that mean? And that conversation I have to have a lot with the young twenties when they're begging for like a lot of things they don't need. And I'm like, we got to back it up to like skincare,

you know, what are we doing? You know, we can maybe do some lasers for like acne scarring that we can do some things. And I'm not saying never, I'm just saying not right now, because the one thing I cannot inject into you is your actual youth.

That's true. And I think that we're all, and I'm putting myself in this category fucked up in the way where we see social media. And you think, oh, this is like real. And then the person looks different in person. They look so different. And I think, you know, I love a good filter. Like we all use filters, but you also have to like remind yourself. Yeah. This is through a filtered lens. I had a very bright, like highly successful New Yorker who came to me and they were like, why is she so perfect? And I was like, do you know how many filters she's been in? And we have the benefit of seeing these people

in person. And sometimes you almost are unrecognizable. But you know, if you're in Iowa, and you don't live near any celebrities or don't have access to them, you just believe that that's what you look like at 60 or, you know, like, and that's not the case. There's a lot of smoke and mirrors, even in like what you do with makeup and lighting and all kinds of stuff.

I'm reading this book. This is a tangent, but it's like, it takes place in 900 AD. And in the book, there's this woman and she's getting married and there's, there's no mirrors. There's nothing to look like.

The only way she sees herself, but she like catches a reflection. What would you do with no mirrors? But that, my point is like, this is how people didn't evolve to see themselves as often as we see ourselves i mean we see ourselves now on zoom on our phone and our mirrors like every sense you're inundated with how you look all the time it's just it's again i always go back to this on the show

it's not how humans evolve like we weren't meant to look at ourselves as often as we do think about what that's done to our brains judging every little thing and especially now with zoom and social you're looking at every single angle. I thought myself the other day, I was like, what's this thing here? And I was like, I would have never seen that on the side of my head. What is the thing? It was probably nothing. It was just like I was noticing, what the hell, it was like a line or something. There's a line? But we're sitting there

and we're constantly not only analyzing our own faces, but we're analyzing everybody else's consistently constantly. Yeah, the other day Michael goes, oh about like, her skin needs work. I'm like, how do you even know about skin? Well, the problem is we do all these conversations now. So things I never even saw or looked at before I noticed.

But I think like if you're doing that now constantly with the phone, and you're, you know. It's never enough is the problem. Like you're always going to find someone prettier or like had a better filter or better angle. And even it's super interesting. And we won't know the psychological aspects until later. But for the young, like adolescents who've had to pivot to at home, zoom school, and then all of a sudden, they're juxtaposed next to the prettiest girl in school, you know, and then it really you don't have to see yourself in class, right? You're looking at the teacher, and maybe you see that the pretty

girl is wearing whatever, and she looks nice that day, but you're not literally side by side with your own image. And they've done studies to show, it used to be with like Seventeen Magazine and things like that girls who are of a certain age, their self-esteem really dropped after looking at these beautiful airbrushed pictures of other girls who are considered beautiful. And so it makes me sad. And I have a little two-year-old girl. I want to make sure that she always, you know, she'll put on her princess dress and goes in the mirror and goes, I'm so beautiful. I so it makes me sad. And I have a little two year old girl, I want to make sure that she always, you know, she'll put on her princess dress and goes in the mirror and goes, I'm so beautiful. And I love that. And I want her to always think that. And so we have to be careful. And I'm certainly also in that, you know, I can succumb to it. We're not immune because we know it happens. But it is good just to be aware. And you and I are also in the business of,

I think about that a lot. God, I have a daughter and I'm in this business where it's like, it's a big part of it is the way you look. So I really always want to be cognitive about that and thinking about that. And like, what's the way that you talk to your daughter? Cause it's a daughter.

A daughter is very different to me than a son having that conversation. It won't be a problem for you though, because in 13 years, we're going to become Amish. We're going to go live in the middle of nowhere. 13 years, exactly. That's very specific. Right when she hits 13 years,

we're going to go become Amish. We're going to be Amish. We're going to live out, the closest neighbor is going to be 80 miles away. There'll be no mirrors. We're going to have no mirrors, no technology. Churn butter.

Churn butter. I love churning butter. I'm just going to drive a plow every day and our daughter will meet somebody 30 years from then. It is really crazy though with Instagram, like all the different things that you see on there as someone that's a doctor. And when you see all these doctors injecting all this stuff. Yeah. I don't ever get upset with the patients. I do get upset with the providers, even if they've injected somebody poorly. People come and they trust us to have a certain level. And then there,

there are also those who are just blindly accepting of if you have a doctor in front of your name, you must be omnipotent and be able to do all things. And so there are ER doctors who are doing Botox, and there are OBGYNs who are doing filler, because, you know, in their defense, it's cash based, and medicine doesn't pay what it used to. And it's because, you know, in their defense, it's cash based and medicine doesn't pay what it used to. And it's tough, you've got $200,000 of loans from schooling yourself. And so they, you know, often get into trouble. And so it makes me upset when they're bragging, they're like, you know, liquid nose job, and it's clearly not that and you can tell that someone had surgery. And it's, you know, you, I think faking before and after afters is so inauthentic. And it really makes it much harder for those of us who are

trying to be transparent and real about expectations, because that's really tough when someone comes in, and they're like, I saw this, and you're like, that's a bunch of other things than what they claimed they did. And so I think people just need to be wary of what they see online, you know, also with like, in general, you know, Dr. Google will take you down a rabbit hole that, you know, everyone comes in, they're like, I have lymphoma, you know, they're just like have gone googling their symptoms. And you want to pair with someone who you trust, who you like their aesthetic, and who y'all are on the same page as to what the outcomes are. There are certainly people who want like super crazy lips, and that's not my thing.

And so I will send them on because I don't want them running around town being like, oh, Dendi's my dermatologist. It's advertising. I think that the best advice my friend ever gave me was when I was 19, he said you, and he said this to a group of girls. It wasn't just me. You have to find something other to lead with than your looks. That's a great piece of advice.

And I just like I thought that was so smart because and I would give that advice to everyone. Like you can't be so caught up in your looks where that's all you're leading with. There has to like are you funny? Are you smart? Are you talented? Are you well-read?

Like what do you bring to the table other than the way you look? Are you smart? Are you talented? Are you well-read? Like, what do you bring to the table other than the way you look? Because the looks goes. I think on the flip side of like some of the downsides of social media that you were talking about, Lauren, like, you know, so many filters and it's so easy, Dendi, you said to be inauthentic,

is that I think people also gravitate to people on social media because they're witty. You know, I think that there's like, you don't want to follow an account where somebody doesn't have anything witty or like some real value to add. So I think that's another interesting thing about social media is that it's these natural creators, like people who just are naturals at like putting great wit and thoughts out there, you know, and so and in such like a specific medium, and these like

sort of short form and just sound bites. So I think that's something that is a little bit of an equalizer for social media, at least as far as I see it, that like you do have to have some wit and bring some value to somebody in order to be, at least for me, to be somebody who I'm gonna like keep following, really appreciate what they're saying and listen to them.

From a marketing standpoint, what are you looking for in an influencer besides wit when you look to work with someone with Canopy? Yeah, I think it's really important that people understand what Canopy is all about. You know, of course it has the skin benefits, but basically what we've tried to do here is we've tried to make a device that you put in your home that makes you feel more well. And that makes your home more of a place for wellness, and then sort of by proxy for beauty and skincare. So I think it has to be somebody who understands that, you know, who really has been became an influencer became a content creator, because they cared about being healthy

and about being well, I think that that's, that's really, really important. And I think also somebody like what's great about this product is that, you know, we talked about all the different benefits and the different reasons why people would use it. So there are a lot of different ways that people can get into it. Like it could be because you have houseplants that you really want to care for. And that's why you're running your humidifier. It cares for houseplants. It helps your houseplants. Yeah. So it just, what do you mean? Like it's like a jungle. So basically, right. So if you think about the rainforest and how like plants, you know, survive and thrive in the rainforest, I mean, canopy is not going to make your house like a

rainforest. It's going to put your house at optimal humidity. But yeah, plants, you know, most plants need moisture. You know, few don't, like plants that flower in the desert or whatever, but most plants need moisture and it's going to help the plants too. So it could be somebody who does houseplants as their content, you know, it could be a lot of moms, you know, a lot of new moms and moms, people who are more like nutrition oriented. But I think it's really somebody who understands like what we want, what we wanted to do and how we want people to experience this product, which is as a device for wellness. And also like, you know, people who really truly have the lifestyle that makes sense for this, like we made it super easy. So you don't have to think about it. So people who are naturally like really busy have a lot going on. I think

that makes that makes sense too. And also people who are game to do like kind of out of the box stuff with us, like we, we really don't want to do anything that's just like one and done. And, you know, and something that doesn't really build a meaningful connection together. We think of the influencers that we work with as like extensions of our team and of our family, you know, and I think people who want to do cool, creative things to like grow, you know, awareness for this product and get people excited about it. I think that's what we think about. How did you guys decide to work together on this? Like, why was there synergy?

With Dendi, you mean? Yes. Well, I mean, I could go on and on. I mean, her skin's glowing. She looks amazing. I can't believe you have two kids. You look so good. I'm going to come to your office in New York, and I'll just lay there.

I mean, shit, I'll take a Xanax and just lay there and you can just do whatever you want. But why did you guys decide besides the obvious? Yeah. I mean, I don't mean to make you blush Dendi, but you know, in addition to everything that Dendi just talked about with all of the cosmetic procedures, like, I mean, she's removing people's cancers, you know, when you talk about wellness and thinking about health from a holistic perspective, I mean, she's got it all. She understands the skin and she understands like really, really health and how all of that ties together. Also Dendi is a mom. I mean, I think you're within our target consumer group, really like you, this is a product that, you know, that really works for you. And,

and also just, you know, somebody who was really going to be very honest with us about, as we were developing the product and putting together the features, know we talked to dendi and she was really honest with us and asked us a lot of questions about why we were doing certain things so that we went through so many studies and you know you have to vet the science because you can basically find a study out there to prove any kind of i mean it won't be a well well done study but you know it can prove all kinds of theories so we we have been working for a long time to make sure that these claims were proper and and real and and based in science and so it's fun that whatever the impetus is for people to use canopy like if they don't want their

family to get sick that's a great reason and then you get the happy benefit of having better skin and scalp and hair awesome if you are going straight vanity and you don't get sick great like i don't care how you get to it just get to it and you're going to get all the other benefits my dog has dander okay does it help yeah it should help there's not really i mean like listen unless i've missed it there's not really a downside to implementing this into your home there's only benefits no because some humidifiers people are like oh that's going to make my walls my floors all wet and like there's going to be moisture. You don't get that with this. So there is no downside. There's nothing worse than a dewy wall. That's why I threw away that one that

you had because it was putting water everywhere. Yeah. That ugly, huge thing that was next to your bed. And it's all it was getting my lamps all messed up. It was a whole thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're doing this because this is a two in one with the essential oil. Yes. So I would love to know more about skin cancer. Okay. I think that since you're here and this is one of your expertise, can you speak on skin cancer a little bit? Are you seeing it less or more? We are seeing more, but we're seeing the death rates from like melanoma and those,

because that's the number one killer of young people aside from accidents, is melanoma and those because that's the number one killer of young people aside from accidents is melanoma skin cancer and thankfully I mean I certainly grew up in the when people would go tanning all the time I think that there are certain habits that have definitely fallen by the wayside interestingly there's an article now that says that working from home has actually increased people's sun exposure because they're like taking a call from the park or they're doing their workouts outside and it's not really that you're working from home, you're just not in an office. And so people were getting a lot more incidental sun exposure, taking their zooms on their deck, you know, and so we we want to be able to protect our skin every day. And that's the concept that people in this country often don't do is like

daily sun protection, whether it's January, or June 365. And then we think about the other things that were the toxic avengers, like the pollution. That really can aid you. It can hyperpigment your skin. People who live in heavily polluted areas- I want to move. Can hyperpigment your skin by 20%. Well, you're moving to Amish country in 13 years, so you can look forward to that. Don't worry, Lauren. Pollution-free. And then blue light and infrared and all of the other things that we're inundated

because we're on all of our devices all the time. It's just great to be protected, just like you use daily antioxidants, daily sunscreen. And that's one of the keys to not aging. It's not sexy. Everyone's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know SPF. And they want to go to something more aggressive, like an active vitamin A that I talked about.

But really, I'm from down south, and Mama always used to say an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. And it's like, just if you put that in your daily routine, and that doesn't mean like I have color, but it's all like self tan. And so you can be you can look at you just don't want natural sun. And that's hard. I know in California, where it's so beautiful and sunny all the time. But it's really important. And also, again, I don't care where you come from. If it's from vanity that you don't want to look old, and then you've been wearing sunscreen, then you're not going to get skin cancer.

So I think that they work in tandem for overall skin health, and healthier skin happens to look better. But I do encourage people. I have a lot of patients who come just for their Botox every three months. And I'm like, when's the last time you had a skin exam? They're like, oh, it's been a while. So just make sure annually you're getting your skin checked from a licensed and trained professional. And then anything that's new, bleeding, changing, growing, just get it checked out. Well, you look at the mole on my neck right now. Someone told me to have it looked at. Yes, of course.

Like live right now. Yeah, of course. Let's see. How do you know if it's fine? How do you know it's fine across the table? I mean, afterwards I'll go even closer, but it looks totally fine. It's like well circumscribed. The borders are clear.

It's uniform in color. We call it the ABCDEs. So these are the things to look out for. If you have a lesion that's A, asymmetrical. B, irregularly bordered. C, color. Has multiple colors. It's not uniform.

D, diameter. Usually anything over six millimeters we think about at least examining. And that six millimeters is like the eraser end of a pencil. And then the last one is the most important. It's E for or changing. And so, you know, if something grows rapidly, starts bleeding, it just is symptomatic. It doesn't mean that it's a skin cancer, but it just means you need to get a second, you know, a second set of eyes on it just so we can rule that out. And people are like terrified of getting their skin examined. And then they finish and they're like, that was easy. You know, it's not often a bad experience. And even if you have to get a biopsy, it's like two seconds and it's not that painful. So it's just better to be safe than sorry. And I think that people, anybody who has a

non-healing lesion that is longer than two to three weeks should be checked out. I have patients who will be like, I'm like, how long has that been there? They're like, I don't know, a couple of years. My doctor has a good friend. You might know that. I don't want to say his name because it's, it ends in a sad story, but he was, he was actually either a dermatologist or a skin cancer doctor, maybe a combination of both. And so he looked at this stuff for a living all the time and knew what to look at. And he ended up dying from, from melanoma because it was on the back of his ear. And I think a lot of people don't look there. And he, one day he turned his ear around his ear and it was, it was too far gone.

So sad. It's a super sad story, but I just, if anybody's looking like maybe checking behind. And for men, it's like scalp, nose, bottom lip,

ears, like places. Do we have to look at like butthole and penis? Calm down. I'm actually being serious. Do you have to look at everything? Hopefully that's not getting too much sun exposure. And now we're going to do that live.

I actually put my butthole in the tube. I need everybody to check something. Because I read in Australia that it's really good for your butthole to get sun. I actually read a whole study on this. It's actually really energizing for you to lay. A lot of the energy healers do believe that. Lauren, if I catch you on...

Can you tell them I'm not crazy? This is so new to me. I want everyone here on this show to understand. If I catch you on our deck. See, can you tell them I'm not crazy? I literally bend over. This is so new to me. I want everyone here on this show to understand. If I catch you on our deck with your ass in the air. That's not what I do. When I have a juve. I'm serving you papers. I have a juve.

I turn on my humidifier with my essential oils going, and I have a juve, a huge juve. And I bend over in doggy style. I don't know how you haven't caught me for two minutes when I juve. Taylor, call my lawyer. Get the papers ready. It's supposed to be good for you to get light in there. People do say that

but I think we should have a PSA. So we do feel a difference then? So have you felt a difference because of it? Yes I swear to God because think about it it's a place that never

ever ever gets any sun. Sun don't shine. Yeah. I told you we were going to get to know each other pretty well on this one. Like you need to you need to tan your ball sack.

I'm going to have to take a chance and say I can't I can't have you walking in on that from me. That could hurt our marriage. Do you like the red light for skin? Yeah. I love LEDs. I think they're great. In Europe, they use them often for anti-aging perspective.

But in the US, we often think about for acne, people who have inflammatory acne or just persistent recalcitrant acne, it's hard to treat. The blue light is really good. That kills the bacteria at the basecitrant acne, it's hard to treat. The blue light is really good. That kills the bacteria at the base of the follicle that's contributing to the acne. And then the red is good for anti-inflammatory components. And we think about, like, as we age, there's this concept of chronic, we call it, inflammation, where you always have inflammatory response in the skin.

And that actually accelerates the signs of aging. It can degrade collagen. So if you're doing a daily light treatment, which is super easy, it's actually helping to calm that down. And then of course, in disease states like rosacea and people who have sensitivities and eczema, it's really therapeutic. Yeah. With COVID, we've been doing, I mean, we have this, it's a huge one. It's like a full body. We've been doing it every single day. It helps a lot, especially when you're indoors. Yeah. That's awesome. I want to come over to y'all's house. All kinds of fun things. Yeah, you're welcome anytime. Thank you.

But honestly, like, our house right now during quarantine, our house right now during, no, our house right now, yeah, you don't want to come over with my butthole bent up in the air. I really do do that. I think you're, like, laughing and joking around, but it actually does give me energy. So, DBJ, if someone, like, to leave this episode with, if someone wants to read up more on humidifiers and like really get into it, I, for me, I've been wanting to do a podcast.

And like I said, I've, I have tons of posts on the blog about a humidifier because it's such a niche subject that people don't think about, but that makes a big difference. If someone wants to go read up on it, on all the benefits, obviously you can go to the skinny confidential, but where else can they go? Well, yeah, I mean, not even can go to the Skinny Confidential, but where else can they go? Well, yeah, I mean, not even to just like plug Canopy, but we have worked really hard to build up blog content on our site and every week we're launching more and all of it is related to humidifiers and the benefits.

So there's actually quite a bit of content there, but, and I would have otherwise said the Skinny Confidential because you talk about it a lot. Dendi, where else do you think? I mean, I feel like y'all have done such a good job of like, because we did such a deep dive into the literature to really have scientific claims that truly are vetted to help educate people, because it honestly, it's not a huge leap to know that humidity in your environment is better for your skin and health. But it is important to know that what the differences are, and like the things that will keep you from using it are all the traditional humidifiers.

And now we have one that is solved for all the reasons you didn't. So those are the two that I would go through first. Because that was the problem when we first started. There wasn't a condensed site where you were just cherry picking all these studies from all over the world trying to support what we know is skin and wellness health. But it's not just one source. Right, and what you will find if you do a little bit of research is that actually, for a long time now, Derms

and then the different beauty publications, right, Byrdie and Refinery, they're doing stories about how humidifiers help for skin. It's everywhere. But we call it healthy skin's best kept secret, you know, because what I found, again, when I was doing my interviews with people about humidifiers was there was a small percentage of people like you, Lauren, who really understand the skin benefits and use it for skin, among other things. But we want more people to know that.

We want more people to know that, like, this is a beauty tool. And, you know, there's so much, like, movement toward I want to know the ingredients in my skincare. I want to know what's going on my skin. This is so simple. This is hydrated air. You talk about clean beauty, like this is the cleanest that there is. We run the water through a filter and then the hydration comes out into the air for you. It's the cleanest beauty thing you can do. Yeah, I agree. And it is part of the beauty ritual that now I look forward to, which is such a change from when we used to fight over who was going to clean it. It has like a nice little like kind of purr, like white noise.

And then if you put the diffuser, like I really like, I like using it where before I'd be like, I hate that fucking humidifier. And Devin would be like, have you filled up his humidifier? And I was like, oh, I forgot, you know, because I really didn't want to do it. I deliberately would like put my little baby's skin at risk because I didn't want to deal with the humidifier. I was tired, oh, I forgot, you know, because I really didn't want to do it. I deliberately would like put my little baby's skin at risk because I didn't want to deal with the humidifier. I was tired. You know, you don't need one more chore at the end of the day.

And what if you guys are wondering the color I got is I got white for my house and then I got pink for my office. But it also comes in green, which is like a seafoam pastel green and then a baby blue. And it is very, very cool how there is no visible mist or steam, like they said. And then I wash mine in the dishwasher with organic dishwasher soap. So it's very easy and quick. What's next and where can everyone find both of you guys on Instagram and online? Yeah, so what's next for Canopy is that we know people love aromas and we love them and we want

to keep doing really cool things with this aroma feature. So for holiday, we'll be finding out, everyone will be finding out really soon. We did a really cool aroma thing that's inspired by the places you won't be traveling this year for holiday. Like, you know, we're used to going and looking forward to our vacations. And I don't think many people will be doing that this year. So the scents are going to take you there. It's going to be like a vacation for your mind. So we're doing that. And then as time goes on, we're going to roll out limited edition aroma partnerships with

we've got a ton of cool brands in the pipeline to work with. So that's going to be just coming for Canopy. And it's at get.canopy on Instagram. Follow. And what is your Instagram? My Instagram is drdendy, D-E-N-D-Y. I am at Schaefer Clinic, Fifth Avenue in the city. If you ever want to come see.

I will be there. You have to. Just do whatever you want. Thank you both for coming on. That was such an informative episode. I feel like we learned all about humidifiers, skin cancer, fillers, Instagram filters, the works. Thank you. Come back anytime. Thank you. Thanks. Oh boy, oh boy. Do I have a good giveaway for you? Do you want to win a canopy humidifier? You can pick the color. I like pink and white, but it's up to you.

All you have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram at the skinny confidential and make sure you've rated and reviewed the podcast. Someone will win a very bougie, cute, chic canopy humidifier. So easy to enter. And with that, we'll see you guys on Tuesday.