The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Dr. Gerry Curatola On The Oral Microbiome, Ozempic Teeth, Jaw Clenching, & What Your Dentist Isn't Telling You

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

#939: Join us as we sit down with Dr. Gerry Curatola – internationally acclaimed biologic dentist, bestselling author, pioneering researcher, & humanitarian with more than 40 years of clinical experience. In this episode, Dr. Gerry breaks down why your oral microbiome is the gateway to total-body health, exposes the truth about fluoride, unpacks the hidden dental risks of Ozempic & GLP-1s, reveals what jaw clenching says about your stress levels, & explains the powerful connection between your mouth, the vagus nerve, & your nervous system.   To watch our last episode with Dr. Gerry Curatola visit https://youtu.be/N98YCKp8nWQ?si=ytVIO3f2n9-LykHs   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Dr. Gerry Cuatola click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   To Shop Revitin go to https://tidd.ly/4tiPLZq and use code SKINNY for 15% off.    To book a virtual consultation go to http://rejuv-health.com and use code SKINNY for 20% for a limited time.    This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential The beauty tool that started it all, redesigned to evolve with you. Shop Ice Roller at https://bit.ly/IceRollerSilver today.   This episode is sponsored by Minnow Shop minnow's new apré-ski capsule collection at http://shopminnow.com and enter code MEETMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order.    This episode is sponsored by American Beverage Association Visit http://www.goodtoknowfacts.org/ for more information.   This episode is sponsored by Ollie Treat your Palentine with Ollie! Go to http://ollie.com/skinny and use code skinny to get 60% off your first box!   This episode is sponsored by Puori Use code SKINNY at http://puori.com/SKINNY to get 32% off Puori Grass-fed Whey Protein when you start a subscription.   This episode is sponsored by Experian Get started in the Experian App now!   This episode is sponsored by WOO More Play Visit https://woomoreplay.com to learn more about WOO More Play and get 20% off site wide. Produced by Dear Media

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Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her show. Today we have our friend, Dr. Jerry Caratola, for the second time. on this podcast. The first time he was on, it absolutely crushed it and it blew people's minds. Dr. Jerry Curitola is an internationally acclaimed biologic dentist, researcher and author of the mouth, body connection, known as a pioneer of oral microbiome science and prebiotic dentistry with over 40 years of practice, founder of rejuvenation dentistry and pioneer of the oral microbiome science behind Revitin, prebiotic toothpaste. He's a longtime NYU faculty member and friend.

He's the dentist that Lauren and I see, the one that we take our kids to, and quickly has become a friend and trusted advisor when it comes to taking care of our mouths. In this episode, we're diving into all the ways that we should be taking care of our mouth, things that we should look for, how the mouth is one of the first lines of defense when it comes to our overall health and so much more. This episode's for anyone that's interested in health, wellness, and understanding the mouth and body connection a little bit better. We also talk about what many dentists aren't actually telling you and misconceptions around the oral microbiome. With that, Dr. Jerry, welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show.

This is the skinny confidential, him and her. You know how everyone in the world is like, I got the guy? You know how I got the guy? We actually got the guy. And the guy is in the studio. We have our biological dentist who is the what of dentistry? The father of bio. Yeah, cue the godfather music of dentistry, biological dentistry.

43 years. Explain in layman's terms to someone who's listening. What's the difference between a. regular dentist and a biological dentist? Well, you know, biologic dentistry is a philosophy of practice. It's not a specialty. It is really an approach that looks at root causes, that looks at toxicity and inflammation, and it looks at a lot of my background in biologic dentistry is rooted in biologic medicine. And it was really Switzerland and Germany that was very, you know, this going back 30 years, there was a man by the name of Thomas Rao.

And he had opened a clinic in Switzerland called Paracelsis. And I had this nurse who was a patient in mind. And she actually went to the program at Harvard Medical School with me in complementary and alternative medicine. There was a program for a short while up at Harvard Medical School. It's actually unfortunate. It was only run for about two or three years. And then they Harvard Medical School closed it. but it was really opening the opening doctors that was open to all health care practitioners,

which was really interesting because my first day there, there was a medical doctor there. And he goes, hey, I'm Bob, you know, so and so. And I said, hey, Bob, I'm Jerry Curitola. And he goes, hey, Jerry, what are you doing? And I said, I'm a dentist. And he goes, what are you doing here? I actually said, what are you doing here? I said, well, this is open to all health care practitioners.

But you know, Bob, the mouth is not divorced from. the rest of the body, like this is connected to this. And this is how kind of absurd health care has been with this division between medicine and dentistry. So I come out of that program and I immediately, you know, and what's interesting is we really looked at how the body regulates and heals and the effects of toxicity and inflammation. And when I started to really understand that a lot of what we do in dentistry is not creating coherence, which is a big word, or alignment with the rest of the body, like mercury fillings, like root canals, you know, a hot topic. Yeah, and this is your second time on the show, guys.

We dove deep into the root canal issue with Dr. J. It went crazy viral when we did that with you. So if you haven't heard that episode, go out or watch it, go check it out. But yeah, keep going. Yeah. And, you know, and then this understanding that, you know, a lot of the materials we use in dentistry that we think are mechanically good for restoring the tooth are actually like even some of the resins we use most popular resin in restorative dentistry is something called bis GMA resin well bis the

bisphenol A BPA so you have and then there's this huge issue with microplastics so you're putting these microplastics in the mouth at 98.6 degrees in a body temperature and if you grind your teeth and clench and all this, you're going to swallow these particles. And then there are dentists are like, oh, well, my patients, I've been practicing 30 years. My patients are still alive. And I'm like, yeah, but just because you don't see the symptoms yet, it doesn't mean that there isn't a bio burden or bioaccumulation. It's like mercury fillings, right? And I call the mercury fillings, and I don't call them amalgam anymore because they're not silver fillings. They're 52% mercury. So if you call it a silver filling. It's really a fraudulent misrepresentation, in my opinion. And so these mercury

fillings off gas. And the, we know this now. We know this. It's been tested. I went on the Dr. Oz show and they actually took a mercury vapor ionizer in this contained thing. And Dr. Oz gets up and says, you know, he's holding a thermometer. And he goes, if I drop this thermometer, you know, we'll have to evacuate the studio. And, you know, it was the mercury would spill. And yet, you know, dentists are working with this. you know, since the Civil War and they're putting the stuff, still putting the stuff in teeth. Why? Because it's cheap. It's easy to put in. I mean, a monkey can put an amalgam filling in with a thumb, you know, you can basically put it in and dentists used to put it in with their thumb.

When I was first in practice, you know, I would actually see, had a couple of patients and I was like, what are these grooves on the top of the film? Oh, it's a thumbprint. Because they didn't even wear gloves and they would put it in. Now, you know, our bodies can get mercury out, right? We have the ability, most of us, 86% of us, have an ability to chelate heavy metals and get these out of the body. But there's another 14% that don't, that have a genetic variation. It's called the APOE4 gene, and they can't get it out. And these are people that get all kinds of neurological problems from a neurotoxin,

which mercury is the most neurotoxic element on Earth. So if 100 people get it, 86 them could be, hey, I'm fine, but the other 14 have no ability to get it out and they are the ones that become symptomatic. It bioaccumulates. And, you know, actually, it bioaccumulates anyway. And we get some of it out. And then eventually, you know, if you got like 10 fillings, you know, or, you know, 12 surfaces of this stuff, you will end up, you know, having subtle effect. Like people who have gut problems. That's a symptom of mercury toxicity.

brain fog, irritability, all of that stuff. Actually, the symptoms of mercury toxicity and the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease are identical. Wow. So, you know, and we see that so many people, you know, and actually, what do they say? It takes 20 years for the symptoms of Alzheimer's to kind of start to show after exposure to neurotoxins and things like that. So we see a lot of things in dentistry that just really. are, you know, dentistry needs to pivot. You know, there is this really illogical and,

and really harmful, I think, lack of connection between medicine and dentistry, between, you know, what you would say medical doctors and dentists, you know, it happened a century ago. And your mouth is the center, literally the center of coherence for the whole body. This concept of coherence, which I learned in Switzerland and Germany with Dr. Thomas Rao, who I was starting to talk about, said this guy, I had a nurse who did the Harvard program. Her name was Barbara, and she came to me and said, oh, Jerry, there's a change in my met. I became her patient. She became my patient. She basically cured my daughter of chronic sinusitis just by altering her nutrition and her diet. Got her off dairy and gluten. This is before, you know, that was even known.

We're talking about the late 1990s. She came to me and then all of a sudden she tells me there's a change in my medical history. I was just diagnosed of breast cancer. And I was like, my first knee-jerk response was, oh, are you going to Sloan Kettering, which is the big cancers, you know, anybody who has cancer? And she's like, hell no, you know, that's a meat grinder. I'm going to the paracelsus clinic. And she's like, you know, it was founded by this Dr. Thomas Rowan.

Then she said to me, you know, you need to meet him. because he is the first medical doctor that I've ever met where if you have anything wrong, the first thing he says is open your mouth. Do you have amalgams? You have rucanose. You have, you know, microblastics. Do you have holes where your wisdom teeth were removed?

A lot of people get their wisdom teeth extracted. There's an extraction socket. And we used to think, oh, you know, the gums grow over, you know, the bone fills in and everything is groovy. And now we know that that doesn't happen a lot. because the way bone regenerates and heals is it needs a scaffold, you know, the cells that make new bone and all that. So you end up with what's called a hole in the jaw, which is referred to as a cavitation.

And you hear it talked about a lot these days. Why? Because now we have diagnostic tools to be able to see them. Do you believe people should get their wisdom teeth taken out? That depends on whether they are malpositioned or not. I think, and the answer to your question is I think a lot of wisdom. teeth get extracted, almost like a right of passage, you know, you're 16, get your wisdom teeth out. They're going to be a problem later on. And that's not necessarily true. So I think there's a lot of

unnecessary third molar extractions, wisdom teeth extractions. There's a lot of unnecessary root canals being done. Like, oh, you got a toothache. Oh, it's a root canal. And it's like, you know, like a root canal is no big deal. And it is a big deal. You're literally devitalizing a tooth. And, you know, and taxidermy on a tooth. That's essentially what root canal is. And, you know, a lot of my root canal specialist colleagues, endodontists, they're always telling me, oh, Jerry, you know, you're an alarmist, and I'm like, no, I'm not.

I'm just looking at the fact that a devitalized tooth does go through changes. And there are 100% of endodontically treated teeth in one PubMed study, 100% of endodontically treated teeth produce endotoxins. And endotoxins are bacteria and bacterial byproducts that are inflammatory and dysregulate your immune system. So if you can avoid a root canal, you want to avoid it. Now, do root canals get people out of pain? Do root canals keep the tooth in your head for a period of time where it's not going

to be creating havoc? Absolutely. But we really need to look at the long-term implications because anything dead in the human body will necros. It decomposes over time, even if it's filled, even if there's no fever, no pain and no swelling. So instead of a root canal, would you, if you could make your decision, would you just say pull the tooth and not mess with that or would you say it's situational? I think it's a viable option if you want to like be proactive about long term, you know, issues. I think proactively, you know, the cost of a root canal and the cost of a dental implant

are equivalent and a ceramic dental implant can give many, many years of service. Now, metal implants are also controversial now because all of the studies and the research that's emerging is that metal implants can also produce endotoxins. And they also don't generate healthy bone. They actually create sclerotic bone. It's almost like scar tissue bone versus ceramic implants, which have been shown to have vascular of bone or bone with a blood supply. I want to go back to what you were about the woman who had breast cancer. Do you think that root canals and these implants that are metal are contributing to cancer?

Well, I think that most of those two procedures, root canals and metal implants and the production of endotoxins. When you talk about cancer, we're really looking at the fact that cancer is multifactorial. You know, it's not like, oh, you know, Susie got breast cancer, Tommy got prostate cancer, that I don't know. And there's a cascade of events where the train goes off the tracks and inflammation. Chronic inflammation creates, really is known to, you know, you flip, you can flip a switch, a genetic switch, and you end up with what's called tumor genesis or the growth of tumors. And then what we're finding right now and a lot of the research is moving in the direction of there's this onslaught of parasitic activity and that every cancer has a parasite attached to it. So you have people now, you know,

using things like ivermectin and antiparacetic drugs in their treatment protocols to actually reverse cancer is not this, you know, scary thing anymore. We're understanding that cancer is just the end stage of dysregulation. So to your point, Kenan infected root canal, and I had a patient come into me before COVID actually, a while back. And she was a new patient. She had come, you know, for an aesthetic. I know she was interested in getting veneers. And so she came in and we go through a, we go through a comprehensive protocol when a patient comes in. We will do a 3D cone beam automatically just to scan for, you know, because those little tiny x-rays, which are 2D, are almost irrelevant in some cases.

That's what you did for me and Michael when we came in. So a cone beam shows a ton of things. If anybody hasn't had a cone beam, they should definitely. I read them routinely with virtual consoles. I mean, people all over the world do virtual consults with me to read their cone beam. And I really do help kind of direct and help them understand of what maybe, their dentist hasn't shown them only because he doesn't either have that technology

or he's not trained in reading that and a lot of general dentists don't even bother. So you had a patient that came in that wanted an aesthetic and you did a comb beam. This was incredible. She came in for an aesthetic consult and on one side when I went the cone beam was up we have these big monitors which you guys have seen.

There was a big monitor up in my conference room and on the monitor they happen to put our cone beam up and on one side on the upper right on the molar the first molar which by the way is on a you know there are meridians like that's how acupuncture works but the first molar is like grand central station of energy flow in the body it's on the breast meridian it's on the thyroid meridian it's on the stomach meridian and on the upper right it's on the pancreas and on the upper left it's on the spleen that's a lot of energetic channels from your brain stem through every tooth to every organ system in the body. And so what we saw, what I saw when I walked into the room was she had an infected root

canal that was so infected that it was there was infection in her sinus, literally filling half of her sinus. And on the other side, she had a big black halo around the end of the root canal, which is sometimes indicative of a cyst. So my first answer to her, was I said, you know, I said, hey, I'm just looking at your cone beam. Do you have any problems with your breasts? I hadn't looked at her medical history. I didn't look at anything. I said, do you have any breast problems? And she gave me this during the headlights look. And she said, I just had a double mastectomy at slung kettering hospital. Why is that a meat grinder? Well, I'm saying that a lot of times, you know, the response to cancer in the in the orthodox

medical world is surgical, is like chemo, radiation, surgery. You know, is like chemo radiation surgery, chemo radiation surgery, double mastectomy, double mastectomy, and, you know, not this concept that can we reverse cancer, can we cure cancer, can we stop the progress of cancer? And I firmly believe at this stage in my life after 43 years and looking at conventional medicine, alternative medicine, functional medicine, biologic medicine, yes, we can get the body. and that's the thing that I learned. In Switzerland, I learned that our body has this life force.

And it is, in Ayurveda, they call it prana. And in Chinese medicine, they call it chi. And in the Western world, you know, we call it the spirit, you know. But in biologic medicine, we call it the biologic field. It is this life force. And it gives us the capacity to regulate and heal. And that's called coherence. That's that alignment.

Why does it make people so uncomfortable when you say that we can cure cancer without the things that they do in the hospital? Well, no, I'm not saying that, I mean, curing cancer can also involve. And I'm not saying, oh, you don't need, you know, conventional medicine, you know, doesn't have a place. And, you know, you should only, you know, go, you know, walk on coals or, you know, get crystals. What I'm saying is that when we understand the root causes, when we understand that you can avoid the things. Chronic inflammation. And that's why I'm here today with you guys to say dentistry, in my opinion,

biologic dentistry is at the forefront of your ability to regulate and heal. Let me ask you this. What is the response from other dentists? Are they fans of your work? Do they dislike what you're doing? It's disruptive. Wait, hold on, because I want to, as I wonder. I'm like, I got, now I really enjoy, you know, kind of, I love to educate the other dentist.

And I love, you know, unfortunately, you get this herd mentality sometimes. Like, fluoride is good. You know, fluoride prevents cavities, fluoride, you know, putting fluoride in the water. Putting fluoride in the water is done absolutely nothing. And they even, even the, you know, there was something called the Cochrane Report, the CDC, the World Health Organization. Actually, I was on a debate with someone from the American Dental Association. It was saying that, you know, water fluoridation was the greatest thing in the 20th century, you know, and I'm like, you know, have you looked at the science? Have you looked at the facts? Western Europe,

most 80 and 90 percent of Western Europe never fluoridated. And the decay rates from 1970 to 2010 went down exactly the same as the United States, Australia, New Zealand, who fluoridated, and threw this crap in the water, which is crap. It is industrial waste product. And so, you know, and everybody finally we're waking up because dumping it in the water is not only ineffectual, but it's harmful. There's more than 60 studies linking, drinking fluoridated water and lower IQ in children. Because it's not, it's not even clean flora.

It has arsenic and blood. Thanks for lowering my IQ, Daddy. He gave me fluoride toothpaste. All of us, right? I know. And, you know, the thing is, like, we think, first of all, we know that fluoride works, if it works at all, it works topically because it does promote, and it actually fluorine, which is, you know, if you want to look at, I'm not to bring you back to high school chemistry, but if you want to look at F minus, it is the most fluorine, which fluoride was kind of made up from the word, fluorine is the element on the periodic table. Fluorine is the most highly

highly negatively charged element on the periodic table that's not radioactive, next to radioactive. So it's the most highly charged, non-radiolactive element on the periodic table, which means that when you introduce it in the body, it blows out other negatively charged. So our teeth and bones are made of hydroxyapotite, not the synthetic mineral that's made, you know, that's made, you know, they're putting in toothpaste to spackle, tubules of teeth. The reason I asked if you other, and you still have to answer if they like that. I got to get to that. But the reason I ask is, you know, after meeting you years ago and going to you as our dentist

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I have my daughter is in her third year dental school. and actually she made a decision to go to dental school during COVID. And I always knew she'd be good at it because she is an incredible artist and she loves biology, anything biological she loves. So she loved blood. And so the first year at dental school, she's like, dad, you know, they started the fluoride garbage, you know, and I'm like, really? And she raised her hand and said, you know, doctor, whoever it was, you know, like, isn't it true? that there's a lot of science that's emerging on, you know,

cognitive impairment in children from drinking fluoridated water, lower IQ in children. And then there's been peer-reviewed studies here. This is not junk science. And literally her, even the other kids in the class are like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. And they were like jumping on her. One thing about me as a mom is I always will have my kids in long-sleeve bathing suits.

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fluorescentic acid they have to wear hazmat suits to dump it in the water do you realize that and and it is and it does nothing to reduce decay decay rates went down the same whether you dump this crap in the water or not but you have very very powerful lobbying group it's what is it a byproduct I'm an industrial byproduct. You know, no, it's a waste product. It is a phosphate fertilizer industry. You know, can you say Monsanto? Aluminantle, aluminum manufacturing. Can you say Alcoa and uranium enrichment, which is DOD, you know, and that's, and it's a, you know, and they used to, they tried to put it in the ground. People don't realize that the whole campaign to put fluoride in the water was the result of

EPA lawsuits against Alcoa in the 1930s. And then they found that, whoa, when you introduced this in the, you know, when you introduce fluoride to teeth, it's so highly negatively charged. It blows out the hydroxy element, the oh, H minus. And it makes floor appetite. What is floor appetite? Definitely more acid resistant. So they were like, oh, it's more acid resistant. Yeah, it's more acid resistant.

But it reduces the tensile strength. It makes teeth more brittle, teeth and bones. So we had an explosion of hip fracture rates in the 1980s. And we had osteoporosis studies linking with us fatal bone cancer and children, osteosarcoma and male children, between the ages of six and 11. That was Harvard School of Public Health, 2006. What else? Thyroid disruption.

What else? Calcifying your pineal gland. Oh, oh, that's just a little thing, you know, between your eyes there. It's often referred to as the third eye. Well, your pineal gland, what does that control? Melatonin production. Well, what does that do? Sleep.

Why is sleep important? Hell, that's how we regenerate. You know, so this is the insanity of this policy that it's time. You know, it's time for people to wake up. And it's time for dentists to really kind of like snap out of it and say, wait a minute, wait a minute, you don't get cavities from a lack of fluoride. You get cavities from an imbalance in the oral microbiome, which is why I spent my whole life you got that toothpaste upside down by the way.

Yeah, don't do it upside down. Tell us about the veneers. First of all, there are a lot of different porcelain. Okay, so what's the difference between? A biologic aesthetic dentist, a biologic cosmetic dentist, and a conventional cosmetic dentist. Yes. Eventional cosmetic dentist may have good hands, may do aesthetics and all that.

In our office, we're going to look at you much more holistically. We're going to see a lot of times people that need veneers have had bonding and filling and all this other stuff. And a lot of that material really needs to be cleaned out. And it needs to be removed. By the way, we remove microplastics the way we would remove any other toxic material. We don't just drill it out, where it goes all over and you're swallowing and all this stuff. We're going to use a porcelain that has, we're not going to use any aluminums or any metals.

Because believe it or not, there's aluminum disilicate is a real restorative material. So we are going to use non-BPA composite resins or BPA-free resins. We're going to use porcelains that do not have any aluminum in them or any other material that, you know, they actually were putting lead in porcelain to make it reflect more. Why, as you're talking, why would all dentists not do this is a cost thing, more expensive material? I think it's an awareness and a consciousness. I think you're focused on, and listen, aesthetic dentistry is a cost thing. one of you know I love doing aesthetic dentistry I mean I was an art minor when I

was in college I was a neuroscience major and an art minor so when I came out I gravitated to cosmetic dentistry and I was in the beginning of it you know in the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry didn't even exist and I was doing you know I was doing veneers in 1983 wow even the biggest guys in New York the biggest you know restorative cosmetic guys they didn't even they weren't even there was only one laboratory that I worked with and it was in in Kansas City, Missouri, that it was the chameleon dental laboratory. I'll never forget in 1983 that was doing veneers.

Then a company called Denmet in California got into doing veneers. But remember, you know, it's great to do aesthetics. And I came up with the name Rejuvenation Dentistry because I wanted to put the wellness doc together with the beauty doc. And I said, you know, really rejuvenation is not just looking younger, but it's, you know, living healthier and living longer. So it's really important to look biologically, not just mechanically at how we restore teeth. What is Ozempic teeth?

It's a real thing. Really? It's a real thing because, well, you know, these GLP drugs are amazing. You know, they can do some really, I mean, it really restores and levels out blood sugar because diabetes is, to me, the biggest issue. One of the most inflammatory issues, and it's very connected to gum disease. So gum disease increases your chance of getting type 2 diabetes, right? And then type 2 diabetes makes inflammation in the mouth and bleeding gums, you know, terrible. And so you have this two-way street where blood sugar really is a major, major problem.

It's connected to, they're calling Alzheimer's, you know, type 3 diabetes. So really we have this problem with blood sugar. So the gLP, you know, these peptides have really done, I think, a really amazing thing in helping people lose weight, get their blood sugar back to normal, help their cardiovascular system, you know, reverse their diabetes and all this stuff. But what they do is they slow gastric emptying and they slow the flow of bile. Now, you need bile for vitamins, vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin K. By the way, vitamin D and K are in Revitin. But when they reduce vitamin D, for example, and they also make you your mouth dryer. So your mouth gets drier, your teeth start to get more brittle.

And a lot of that is lower vitamin D. You need vitamin D and K for your teeth and bones. It's really important. So, you know, they're calling those Zepic teeth. And there dentists out there, oh, you got them Zempic teeth, you know, because they're seeing higher decay rates, gum recession, and all that. And all of that is controllable, but you need to be aware of it. So what do people do if they're on Ozzympic and they don't want OZempic teeth?

One, they need to make sure that they're hydrating much more than they used to. Okay. Number two, they need to increase their intake of protein. Number three, they need to watch your vitamin D levels. You know, that's why, you know, I created Revitin, by the way, you know, was 15 to 20 years of research. and I realize that we've got to get out of symptom-driven health care, oh, oral care. We've got to get out of symptom-driven oral care

and really look at root causes. And a lot of, one of the things that drove me into developing Revitin was, I saw a study from Japan from the 1970s that showed that gums, you know, disease gums, peridontal disease, they found this one, these group of researchers found that gums were, deficient in vitamin C and co-Q10. Those are the two big biggest nutrient. Co-Q-10, you know, I know you're taking it, Michael.

Well, that's what I was asking. Before we started the show, guys, I was out, there's co-cutin in the Vivitin, and I take Kuketan as a supplement, but not, I didn't, I wasn't doing it because of my teeth. I just heard it was good for. Well, you actually take in your toothpaste. But I've been taking my toothpaste, if I wasn't alive, you would be using Colgate for your toothpaste for the last 10 years, but thanks to me, you've been using Revitin.

Yeah. I didn't even realize you were using Revitin before. we even knew each other. I was using your toothpaste before I met you, but it was the old packaging. I'm so old, yeah, yeah, yeah. My son, Grant, has done an amazing job, you know, really changing the address. He said to me, he said, Dad, you have the best toothpaste. All my friends love it. You know, you have the best toothpaste, but it's packaged like Swiss hemorrhoid cream. And I was like, it was like white, you know, it had the blue. And I thought it was like, you know, prominent. And he's like, yeah, it just doesn't look like what you did. And this,

You could tell this is something you could eat. So why do you want COQ10 for your teeth? CoQ10 is the co-factor in the manufacturer of ATP. And in English, ATP is the energy in the tank. So the more the metabolic need, like your heart beating all the time, your skin, and your gums. So the more of the metabolic need, and those are the three highest metabolic needs, heart, gums, and skin, you need more co-cutein. and as you get older, your ability to make CO-Q-10 goes down. So we found that CO-10 and vitamin C, which we knew, you know,

sailors on ships got scurvy, which was really gross, but scurvy is, you know, this really disease gums. And they found that they were deficient in CO-10 on the ships. But actually, recently I learned that Portuguese sailors, because of what they lined their water tanks or whatever with, they were actually getting vitamin C from it. and so they didn't have any scurvy. So vitamin C, I mean, if I could take any vitamin, if I could only keep one vitamin, I had to get rid of every vitamin in my medicine cabinet,

the one vitamin I would keep is vitamin C. What's the brand that you like to take? The vitamin C? Yeah. I actually have a liposomal vitamin C that I use. There's a couple of good ones, but liposomal is a suspended form. You have higher absorption. Will you take the liposoma vitamin C from symbiotica? Symbiotica is a good one. I heard that it's hard to get the vitamin C from a non-liposomal delivery system. It's true.

And I actually make my own. I have an optimal nutrition. Are you holding out on me or whatever? Why are most clean toothpaste still wrecking our mouth? Because a lot of them are still symptom. So they are free of dyes. When we say clean, right? We're taking out the artificial flavor, which, by the way, the artificial flavors are horrendous.

you know, they're still using saccharine and aspirateam in the commercial toothpaste. And actually, the sugar alcohols are another pet peeve of mine, Eritratol and Xylitol, which are, you know, everybody's like, oh, you know, we use pretty birch bark for ours. And, you know, the reality is, is they all go through an industrialized process, and it's a high value chemical. And it's very disturbing to the microbiome. So it's really about the whole approach with Revitin versus other

clean toothpaste is we're focused on promoting or making peace with your microbes in your mouth because my research has shown and recently i have a big paper being published on something called smdc cyallomicrobial dental complex and that's a very fancy word for saliva microbes teeth how they work together your saliva is loaded with ionic minerals like phosphorus and calcium your microbial flora in your mouth, your oral microbiome actually transports minerals from saliva for your teeth to remineralize constantly. And that's when the oral microbiome is in balance. When your microbiome is out of balance, you actually de-mineralize and then you get cavities. So it's really, the root cause of decay is not you didn't have fluoride. It's not, you know,

don't you didn't use nano hydroxyapatite which has got a whole host of other issues you know your teeth are not like porcelain tiles that need spackle your teeth are living breathing organs that have a circulatory system a a lymphatic system a neurologic system a skeletal system they actually there is fluid exchange in the dental tubules and there's amazing things that go on with your teeth They're living vital mini organs, so to speak. And so clean toothpaste is taking out dyes and minerals and all that, but it's not restoring balance to this essential ecology that keeps us alive. That makes total sense what you're saying. So the probiotic, the prebiotic, the vitamins are restorative.

Correct. Tell us the truth about mouthwash. Let's break everyone's heart. I went viral on this, you know. I went into a supermarket and pulled it thing and it says, kills 99.9% of germs in the mouth. And I said, you know, if we were really able to do that, we would unleash ecological Armageddon.

Okay, because guess what? Those microbes in your mouth, they're producing nitric oxide. Okay. And nitric oxide is important for everything. From good sex to good heart to your nervous system to your immune system. to your immune system signaling to all of that. Nitric oxide is one of the most essential compounds.

And guess what? Your oral microbiome and nasal breathing, which by the way, was why I love your mouth tape the most. You heard it here first. The best dentist in the world, the father of biodendistry loves the mouth tape. I do.

Okay. Why? Because, well, it's comfortable. Okay. And it actually, you know, because a lot of them peel off. Yep. And a lot of them are not comfortable.

and it does start to train you to do nasal breathing. The only thing I would say is make sure you don't have a deviated septum. Make sure that you can breathe through your nose because there are people that can't breathe through their nose. They need an ENT. But a lot of people breathe through their mouth just, you know, it's just a habit. Which is really bad for you. And it's really bad for you. It increases your risk of periodontal disease, tooth decay, all these kinds of things.

But most importantly, when you nasal breathe, you are making nitric oxide. Here we have, again, nitric oxide. Let's talk about a reverse issue that, you know, a lot of people are mouth breathing. I think I fall in the camp of clenching my jaw, and I know you said stress lives in the jaw. For me, it's like I have a, like, I can tell sometimes I wake up and I'm like, man,

I must have been clenching last night. And I wear the mouth guard, right, so that I, like, to guard the teeth, but do you agree with stress living in the jaw? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's one of the first places it manifests. And, you know, I always, you know,

I've always look. for the signs of that because it's very disregulating to your vagal nerve regulation. So you have a vagal nerve that goes from your brainstem literally to your colon. So like from the brain to the drain, you have this vagal nerve. And actually my new book, which is The Coherence Cure with Dr. Cure-Ratola, it's beyond the mouth-body connection. So the mouth-body connection was the first book. And now I've been working on this whole concept of coherence because I think your mouth,

the bridge of coherence, the most important center of coherence is your mouth. And if you're clenching, you have dysregulation or your vagal nerve. You have all kinds of inflammatory signals that are being given. And it's, it, and those inflammatory signals affect mental, you know, and physical. When you were saying the vagus nerve, like, you know, one of the things that I have to work on and be mindful is my HRV score. Yes. And I have to do things like, Lauren, what's that the shift way? if you just got that, like I, and I don't know how you haven't tried that yet. It's a Apollo neuro thing, but it helps the agent because I need it for the vagus nerve, and I imagine it's connected to my jaw clenching.

Vagal energy flow, you know, so the vagus nerve is not just biologic, right? It's a real big nerve that goes, you know, from the brainstem to two-thirds of colon. And, and the, what we have found in research is that the bridge of coherence for vagal regulation is the mouth and the heart. It's like right from what they call the energy center called the throat chakra to the heart chakra. So energetically, throat chakra to heart chakra, that's the bridge of coherence

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to even the ruler. It's all been elevated just for you. So the ritual, the Lauren ritual, is you do cold therapy to help fight inflammation. You roll it, you glide it across your face. I put it on my jawline, my neck, I roll it down. Your skin is just going to appear smoother and tighter before you go in for the kill with the skin care and the makeup. Don't skip the cold therapy. The new ice roller is an upgrade designed to meet the standards of today. And I hope you guys love it as much as I do. This is the beauty tool that started at all. Redesigned to evolve with you. I'm showing it on YouTube too. if you're on YouTube, if you're seeing me visually. Get it why it's hot at shop skinny confidential.com. That's shop skinny confidential.com. So what do you do with patients that clenched their jaw and they want to stop? A lot of things. So first of all, we want to get to recourse because if you have an airway issue,

so the first thing I would do, somebody's clenching is, do you have an airway issue? Because what happens is people start to clench at night and they they clench at night because when the brain, when you have an epnaic episode, your blood oxygen levels go down. The brain goes crazy and you clenched your nor. And so we find a lot, you fix the airway. The clenching and the grinding actually goes away. Well, you saw my issue.

I got my nose smash, but you saw my X-ray. So I got to get that fixed. I got to come back. Exactly. But that could be an issue with me. Right. So airway could be an issue for you, Michael. The other thing is I would look at ways that you can re-regulate.

And so, you know, we look at, this is an interesting, this is very, very important. and I'm actually expounding on this in the book too. But actually we regulate and heal on five different levels, microbially, and we know about dysbiosis and what all that does. Energetically, right, energy flow. And so we look at meridian flow and things like that. We regulate on a biochemical level, and that's hormone regulation and all that. We regulate psycho-emotionally.

Some people, you know, they got stuff. psychomotionally, they get stinking thinking. They live in a state of fear and anxiety. And that's, unfortunately, the environment we're in right now really, you know, it makes us incoherent, you know, and doesn't restore coherence. You just turn on the news. And, you know, we have, we have incoherence in our, you know, in our climate incoherence in our, you know, economy, politics, anywhere you want to look. There's a lack of coherence. The shift wave chair you should get for your office. It's absolutely. life-changing. It vibrates and like you wear a little thing on your finger and it measures. It's

really amazing. And it plays some sound to you too, so it might be similar to what? What are the scary truths about x-rays? Well, x-rays are cumulative. Okay. So we, you know, that's that we know. And what's interesting is I have a good friend who's major nutritional product manufacturer. And he's working on products that eliminate ionizing radiation from the body. Fortunately, a lot of new x-rays are digital. But I and there's see there are tools that can be used in dentistry to minimize patient exposure to dental x-rays because again the first thing I said was it's cumulative. So if you know every time you go to the dentist like every six months you go to the dentist or some people go three months it's like every six months you need x-rays you need x-rays you need x-rays.

It's like you know what? Wait a minute. You know there's ways what are you taking the x-rays for? Well we want to measure bone levels, we want to check for decay between the teeth and approximately. Well, we have transillumination for that. And we have other methods of measuring periodontal pockets and bone levels and things like that where it's not necessary every six months. And, you know, especially on kids, you know, I find it really, you know, we can use other ways of other diagnostic tools that we have in the box right now, other than using, you know, standard dental x-rays. every time a patient goes to the gas.

It always scares me when they're like, there's no problem, and then they're like, right, right. They run out of the room. They run out of the room. Gen Z has the biggest problem

with oral inflammation. Why? I don't know. You tell me. First of all. That's a real stat. Oh, yeah. They're grinding their teeth

because they're on their phone too much. They are cyborgs. What's that mean? What's a cybor? Meaning they are half machine and half. I mean, I have a social media guy, you know, they're all in their 20s. They're really good.

They're in their 20s, you know, early 20s. And, you know, he said to me, I'm a cyber. I was like, you know, Michael, you have to get off the phone. You know, Michael, I'm going to take the phone away just for a little bit, you know, because he's, you know, we would, we would be shooting content. And the Gen Zers, they are so connected and they're so impatient with someone like me. Like, here I am. I'm a baby boomer, okay?

So I'm literally a dinosaur and like literally, and they, and I, and I, and I'm, and I'm, I would hold the phone and go, I'll find it. And he's like, Dr. Jerry, Dr. Jerry, can I take, can I take that? Because he was like, he would, and then he would literally take the phone. And I think he would just look at it and like it would come up, you know, what I was looking for. So why do they have the most, the biggest problem with oral inflammation? There are so, their nervous system is so overstimulated. And, and they are so, I mean, if you get EMFs and all that other crap, the reality is, is that

they are very technical all of that is very inflammatory besides the fact that it's diet and what's interesting is i find that diet and nutrition of course are a cornerstone you know of oral health right alkalizing anti-inflammatory antioxidant rich that's what i always talk about with diets and i don't get into you oh your keto and this pescatorian oh blah blah you know pescatarian and all this other stuff it's like alkalizing anti-inflammatory antioxidant rich you know the second thing is is exercise. So exercise, what does exercise do? Exercise improves immune system competence, circulatory function. You know, you're moving lymph. You are actually producing short chain fatty acids. Short chain fatty acids are very anti-inflammatory. So it helps to reduce inflammation.

And you need that. So exercise is important. Third thing, stress management. You really want to control stress and I find that Gen Zers they're super, super stressed they're way Well imagine that every time you turn something on is just telling you how bad everything is Right. It's interesting when I

talk to people because we And I think similar There was always bad news in the world But you didn't grow up constantly being bombarded with how terrible things were You grew up with a lot of hope and inspiration But it's the person It's the person who's using it

responsibility to take autonomy over it. Yeah, but the problem is, Lauren, for like... And not turn it on. You have to have boundaries around it. Yeah, but I'm empathetic to this because the world's going to keep moving. And boundaries, yes. I totally agree with that. I think that a lot of them are going to have some very serious health problems. Yeah. Because of this inability to manage what is a stress that they're not even aware of. Well, because think about this. When we grew up, there was like, you know, 30 channels that you would watch and the majority of, like, there was some of the news, some, some, bad things, but the majority in what's good, like, happy programming, good movies, good stories. You know, even like, even if action movies were crazy. But the problem is now the main channel is

the phone. And these companies have learned that fear sells and anxiety keeps you hooked. And so the majority of programming that you're turning on the news, that you're watching on social is bad, scary, negative news all the time. And so, yeah, you can be intentional. But like, we grew up understanding that there were those kind of options. If you grew up in a time which, like, only shit all the time. It's hard to escape that. I have empathy. I have empathy. I do too. And the problem is that it's not necessarily true. It's just that's the stuff that people realize they can showcase to you to get your attention. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think a lot of them and, you know, I have, you know, they work with me and, you know, and they work, you know, in my practice and all. And they're,

and they're wonderful. In many ways, I find that they really have some extraordinary gifts. and then there's there's a lot of things that are very concerning for me, not just for their oral health, but for their systemic health and wellness and their mental health and wellness. Wow, we covered a lot. Everyone should go get your toothpaste. I've been using your toothpaste forever. My kids use it.

My dad uses it. My stepmom uses it. My whole family's on it. I personally like it because of the prebiotics in it. I like it because of the vitamins. I put it on my gums. I was healing the other day. and I put it on my gums.

It's amazing. I personally like the citrus flavor. That is my favorite. That's my ride or die. I like the mint, though, because it makes me feel like I'm doing, like maybe something nostalgic, it makes me feel like I'm getting the job done.

You know, what's interesting is that everyone was addicted to mint in oral care. And everybody doesn't understand. Like, the reason why there were these really strong peppermint oils thrown into toothpaste is it covered up everything

that was bitter in the soap, right? Because what was toothpaste? Teethpace was developed by soap makers, 100 years ago and 150 years ago and so basically you know you had soap for your clothes soap for your hands soap for your hair so you know soap for your skin and then you needed soap for your mouth so it was really detergent and origin and then it was all about putting chemicals in bug killers and all that so really what i wanted to do is take it and turn it into a nutritional product and what i didn't realize when i first was developing this and it was one of my mentors dr stevely

Stephen Moss, who was, he's an MD, DDS, Ph.D.S. Ph.D.D.S. Ph.D.D.H. And he had a company called called Health Education Enterprises, and he would be given money by the majors to kind of do research that would say why something worked. Like if Colgate was coming on, they wanted to study how to kill plaque because that's what their objective was. They thought it was a good thing, right? You put pesticide in toothpaste. The triclosan was a non-biodegradable pesticide. The principal ingredient in the leading toothpaste for 20 years was triclosan. I had too much of that in my body. Yeah.

I had to do like a detox. Yeah. I mean, triclosan is a nasty, non-biodegradable chemical, but why do they put it in there? Well, they found it maybe if we use a little bit, you know, it'll kill plaque. Little did they know that they were, you know, you need healthy plaque keeps you alive, you know. So he was, he said, you know, your product might save the world. then I laughed and he said no I'm serious he goes because if these bastards you know continue to put this stuff you know what we know you know his research showed that you don't want to

kill plaque you really want to make your mouth you want to restore help you want to make peace with your microbes and the problem with brushing your teeth is it's a daily habit that you're doing twice sometimes three times a day so you have to examine these daily habits I think and see what you're putting in your mouth right absolutely You gave us Code Skinny for 15% off. You can go to Revitin.com. That's r-e-v-I-T-I-N.com. Use code skinny.

Start with the citrus. Just trust me. If you want to do a consultation with Dr. Jerry, tell us what you are offering the audience. Well, I do virtual consults. The easiest way to kind of be introduced, and we're going to give 20% off a virtual consult. Well, how do they book?

They can go to, um, right to our website, Rejuve Health. Okay. So, or they can follow, follow me on, uh, Instagram. Yeah, follow me on Instagram at Dr. Jerry Kuratola. In the link tree, there's a way you can book a virtual consult. We are going to give a discount for Skinny Confidential. Skinny is the code.

Okay. For the Revitin. Skinny's the code for, for the consults. The consults people love. They, they really gives them a lot of information. And it helps guide them. And if they choose to come visit us in our offices, we're more than, than happy to see them. Otherwise, we will help guide them to someone that could help them in their

area. What I will say, the problem with seeing you is that once you see you, you don't want to go anywhere else because it's, it's comprehensive. And also, it makes you think about some of the things that you're, and listen, not to diminish anyone, but when you start to see how comprehensive it is the things that you do and the way you do it, like even when you, you helped me with one of my veneers in the back, and it was because it broke. And even with the ozone and cleaning it up and getting all organized, I was like, well, I'd never done that before. Yeah, you know, there are protocols that I've created over 40 years that have really been effective. And that, you know, and I always say, you know, good dentistry can be expensive, but not as expensive as bad dentistry.

And I see people going through problems and issues and the same problem over and over. So I really, you know, would recommend a virtual consult or an in-person meeting. Next time I see you, we're going to fix my airway. Absolutely. Dr. Jerry, I will see you next time. I'm in New York and thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. That's great to see you. Thank you.