The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Emma Heming Willis On Bruce Willis's Diagnosis, Protecting Your Brain Health, & What Every Family Needs To Know About Caregiving

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

#980: Join us as we sit down with Emma Heming Willis – author, advocate, and dedicated voice for caregivers and families affected by frontotemporal dementia (FTD). A wife, mother of two, and stepmother of three, Emma is the Co-Founder and Chief Impact Officer of Make Time Wellness, a company focused on empowering women through brain health education and support. In this episode, Emma opens up about her husband Bruce Willis's FTD diagnosis and shares the realities of being a caregiver. She discusses the emotional, mental, and physical challenges that come with caregiving, breaks down common misconceptions surrounding FTD, highlights the importance of brain health awareness and early education, and reveals the lessons, tools, and support systems that have helped her navigate this journey. Emma also shares how she transformed personal adversity into purpose-driven advocacy, offering hope, guidance, and community for families facing similar challenges. This is an honest, powerful conversation about resilience, caregiving, brain health, and finding strength through connection.   For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Emma Heming Willis click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   To Shop Make Time Wellness visit http://maketimewellness.com/skinny and use code skinny for 20% off for a limited time.    This episode is sponsored by PVOLVE Head to http://pvolve.com/skinny and use code SKINNY for 15% off sitewide, or on class packs at a Pvolve studio near you.   This episode is sponsored by FRE Nicotine Try FRE Nicotine Pouches today at http://FREpouch.com and use code SKINNY for 25% off for NEW customers only. WARNING: This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.   This episode is sponsored by Wayfair Patio season is here and these deals won't last! Head to http://Wayfair.com/outdoor right now to get your outdoor space ready for way less.   This episode is sponsored by Nutrafol For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you visit http://Nutrafol.com and enter promo code SKINNYHAIR.   This episode is sponsored by Polymarket Polymarket is now available in the U.S. App Store, with pop culture markets launching very soon. Download the app now and use code SKINNY to skip the waitlist and be first in line when those markets go live.   This episode is sponsored by Truvia If you're looking for a better way to enjoy sweetness with zero calories per serving, you really need to try the new Truvia® Allulose Plus Stevia Sweetener & Monk Fruit Sweetener—available online and nationwide at Kroger, Target and your favorite local grocery retailer.   This episode is sponsored by TruFru Find it now in the freezer aisle of your grocery store! Produced by Dear Media

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bostics. This episode is giving you the blueprint on caregiving and all things brain health. We invited Emma Heming Willis on the show to talk about cognitive wellness, essential brain health tools, and she even opened up about her own caregiving journey with her husband, Bruce. Emma is a wife, a mother of two, a stepmother of three, and she's a child. She is an author and a care partner. She is so vulnerable on this episode, which is very personal.

And I just commend her for coming on the show and being so candid. Emma, welcome to the Bostics. One of the things that I find fascinating about you, Emma, is that a lot of people go through something really hard and then they wait till they're through it to talk about it. And what's so cool about your whole thing is that you're kind of showing us in real. real time what it's like. I guess so. I actually never really thought about that. I think it's been a coping mechanism for me, being able to have an experience and also be able to share it at the same time.

Yeah. You know, like not gatekeeping what I have learned, what I know, and being able to share it with another caregiver who, you know, might not have access, time, resources. It's really important to be able to, for me to pay it forward, to pass on the information, because caregivers are so unsupported. We're so unsupported. And that's what, you know, prompted that book that I wrote. What was the thing that sort of pushed you to put this all out there? Would you remember, like a moment?

Was it an epiphany or was it just a slow build? You know, there was so much time that was spent in isolation, being really quiet about it. not having a community, not feeling safe to be able to talk about it to anyone, not even a doctor. You know, I just wanted to protect my husband and protect our family. And it just was really isolating. And it came to a point where I knew I couldn't live like that anymore. You know, when we received my husband's diagnosis, we walked out of that appointment with no hope, no roadmap, nothing. just to check back in in a couple of months. And we were sent on our way. And I realized really

quickly how unsupported we were, the next caregiver would be. And I had to go and sort of figure this all out on my own. You know, what support do I need? What support do I need for our two children who were eight and ten at the time? You know, what do I need to do to figure out what to do with this diagnosis that I did not fully understand or grasp. Do you feel like at this point with everything you've gone through and writing a book on it, that do you feel like, ah, I figured this out? Or is it still something that's obscure and you kind of don't know what's happening? You don't know what's going to come next.

I mean, I've really educated myself. I think that's really helped me sort of settle my nervous system is to be like a couple steps ahead so I can really understand the disease, understand what we're up against, understand what could happen, might happen, and just be prepared for that. You know, for the most part, I don't know, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't have this down to a fine science. I have to remember, I mean, I wrote the book that cares for the caregiver. I keep it next to my bedside because it's sometimes I just need to open it up.

And the book is part of my story as a caregiver, but I think what are the real nuggets in there are the experts and the specialists that I bring in who share their insight and wisdom. that I need to remember, that I need to hear, because it's so easy to forget when you are in the midst of grief and trauma and, you know, trying to make all the decisions for everyone all the time. It's hard. It's really easy to get lost in it. So for the audience that's unfamiliar with your story, what is the specific disease that you guys have been dealing with? And how would you describe it to people? Yeah, so it's called frontotemporal dementia, or FTTD for short. It affects the frontal lobe and the temporal lobes.

You know, this is executive decision, you know, just your everyday sort of functioning, language, comprehension that's in your temporal lobe. So the variant, because there's three different variants of FTD, the one that Bruce has affects language. But there's another variant that will affect behavior. and another one that could affect movement. So there's three different variants to FTT. And does this affect memory as well?

It does not. No, it doesn't. So that's a different part of the brain. You know, so when people say, oh, you know, does he remember who you are? Well, he does because he doesn't have Alzheimer's. He has FTT. And I think that's a very common misconception that when you think of dementia, we think of memory loss. Yeah, because my grandmother passed and eventually, she had dementia,

eventually like got really bad. Yeah. And she didn't know who we were at the end, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's not that. So he knows who you are. He knows who the children are.

Mm-hmm. Okay. But yeah, it's different to Alzheimer's. And Alzheimer's is the most common form of dementia. But FTD is the most common form of dementia for people under the age of 60. Wow. A lot of people when they talk about grief, talk about grief pertaining to someone dying.

Mm-hmm. You are in grief when someone is alive. Yeah. How do you explain that to someone that doesn't understand that? Yeah. I mean, thankfully there was a doctor, Dr. Pauline Boss, who coined this term called Ambiguous Loss, and it's grieving someone who is alive. And that is what many people who are caregivers to someone with dementia experience,

because your person is there physically, but maybe. maybe not mentally or emotionally. I almost feel in a way, and again, like, only, like, I don't have a tremendous amount of experience. This is just one family member. But in a way, it almost feel, I don't want to say it's harder because death's hard. But one is much more final than the other. When someone actually passes from living to that, that's done. But this is, you're kind of going through it and you kind of lose a little bit of them each day.

Yeah. I mean, I think what you experience with any form of dementia is it just takes, you know, these diseases they take and they take and they take very, sometimes very slowly. And you are grieving different losses all the time. So you are consistently in grief. You know, I've just learned how to navigate it. Maybe I'm a little bit more used to it at this point than I was early on. But yeah, you are just sitting, sitting with it and moving alongside of it. What are the main causes of FTD if we know, or do we know? Yeah, genetics can be one. You know, it can run in your family. But for 70% of people, it's a sporadic form, which means that it could just happen.

And we don't know why, you know, it could be environmental. I mean, I think that is the thing with dementia. There's a part of it that is genetic. genetics, there is a part of it that could be, you know, that runs in your family. But it can just happen. Does the person who's in it know that they have dementia or does it not compute for them? It depends. I think for some people, they do know. For others, they don't. And there's a term called anisagnosia where your brain does not allow you to compute what is happening. And

for Bruce, he was very much in that. And I'm really grateful for that, actually. It was hard. It's like a blessing and a curse. But I am happy that he is in his own, you know, world of not knowing. How do you support your children through this? And if someone's listening and they have children and they're a caregiver, what are the tools that they can give their children?

Yeah. I mean, there's a whole chapter in there, parenting while caregiving. And there's an expert that I, you know, was able to connect with. Her name is Megan Graham. And what she taught me was about how to give this information to your children in an age-appropriate way. You know, not give them too much, but, you know, you open up the conversation. So, you know, when Bruce was diagnosed, I, the kids knew that I was going to be coming home with a name of whatever this might be. And I told them it was, you know, frontotemporal dementia.

We can also call it F-T-D. And they were like F, you know, T-D, no, we put, you know, they put an acronym. They made an acronym of fantastic turtles dancing so that they would be able to remember, you know, just the way the letters went. And then from there, you know, I would wait and just wait to see what questions they might have. And you might have kids that are like very inquisitive and like have a ton of questions. And you have to be ready to answer those questions that you feel fit for them to hear in an age-appropriate way, but it must be truthful. And, you know, what I have always told my kids, that if anything changes, I'm going to let you know. So they know that I'm never going to try and sugarcoat this for them.

They, I think, feel confident in me. there's that trust that they know that I'll be able to talk with them and walk them through it. And they are supported. And, you know, I think that they're doing really well, given the givens. How do you support yourself? And to me, it's like, you know, how when you become a mom and you feel like you are running on empty and you go and get a massage or you do something for yourself and there's a little bit of a guilt? guilt. Is that a similar, is that a similar feeling? Yeah. As when you need to like step back and support yourself. There's, I almost would imagine if that was Michael, I would feel a little guilt,

but you have to support yourself. I think that that is so common for caregivers. Yeah. You know, we want to put our person first. We want to put our children first. You know, I think like as women in society, it's like we want to put everyone in front of ourselves. But as a caregiver, if you're If you are not caring for yourself, it is going to be impossible for you to continue this journey of caregiving and be able to sustain it. So yes, of course, you know, early on did I have guilt of, you know, if I would meet a friend or go out to do something very simple, 100% and worried about like, is everything okay at home? You know, it's very hard to detach.

But I've realized that how important it is. is very bad for your health, you know, because you aren't making your doctor's appointments, because you're so focused on your person, you aren't caring for yourself. And again, you can't sustain the journey of caregiving if you're not putting yourself first. I was reading about how night nurses, that it's very easy for them to get, I think it was a certain kind of cancer, and it's because they're not exposed to the sun during. Oh, interesting. Like they go to sleep during the day, a lot of them. And I think as a caregiver, it seems like you would have to be up at night, kind of, I would think.

Yeah, you're sleeping with one eye open. Which is like, you know, it's not good for the person. No, it's not good. And it's not good for your brain health, right? I mean, you know, I'm a big brain health advocate. And if you aren't sleeping well, I mean, that's one of the pillars to great brain health is sleep. And we know as moms, I mean, I used to be a great sleeper. And then I became a mom and then you hear one little noise and you're, you know, you're up.

It's the same thing for a caregiver who has to really sleep with one eye open to make sure that the house is safe. Your person is safe. You know, it's there's, it's a lot. I've been debating if Lauren, when she hears noise in the night, if she hears them and is pretending to sleep or if she doesn't hear them. I sometimes pretend I'm sleeping. Because I will spring out. And then recently I went out of town. for the night and she's in and her sister went and stayed the night she's like wow i couldn't believe

how quick loren sprung out of bed and jumped up and i it was an indicator to me that like have you been awake this whole time when i'm springing up yeah she pretends she's not we got our brain scanned by dr aman oh we love dr amman i knew you would yes of course he did me did my scan as well he's great he's fabulous yes and he scanned our brains and my brain came out came out as the masculine brain and michael's came as the feminine oh that's so interesting in the way that we I don't have a woman's brain, she's a man's brain, but she said typically the male has this, like a slow brain and a woman has a fast brain.

We said in our case, it's really weird. It's swapped. Oh my gosh. So I don't know. So my theory is that I get to sleep through the night and pretend I'm sleeping and he can hop up. And so he should. But my perspective is like, I am up anyway. Like if I hear a pin drop in the house at night, I'm like, I'm up.

I'm running around. So I might, I was like, well, then you sleep because I'm not going to, you know. What would you say to the audience who is a. about to enter a phase where maybe they are going to have to start being a caregiver of a parent. What is your advice? I'm sure a lot of people have come to you for that advice. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think what is really important is that we need to move away from this idea that caregiving is a solo mission. Yeah. You know, I think that we all feel, and myself included, that like you don't want to ask for help. If you do, you seem weak. You're failing. Your,

your parents, your spouse, if you are bringing in help. But that's not true. We really need to reframe that. And I think it's important for your audience to know that you need to start, you do need to start thinking about it because you don't think about it until you're in it. You know, for me, I didn't think about caregiving. I didn't think that this would be a part of my life until all of a sudden it was a part of my life. So it's important to know that it's okay to ask for help, that we need to be able to bring in. help talk to our community, our family, our friends sort of rally that idea of community that we have lost complete touch of, I think, and be able to bring in support because we can't do this alone. When you started opening up to your own community on Instagram, was it amazing, incredible support? Did you get a lot of questions? What did you notice when you started opening up? I think it was just a sense of relief to be able to just be in what is. You know, without having to be so conscious, so careful, I couldn't live like that anymore.

So I was able to open up and then I was able to find my community, right? You know, with Bruce who has a disease of FTT, there is an organization, association of frontotemporal degeneration. Those are my people. You know, I just went to their educational conference in Seattle a couple of weeks ago. And it's just I get to be around people that just understand. They understand the disease. They understand the trajectory, what you're going through.

And that's really helpful. So I also think that's important is, you know, finding your community of support, or support groups that they have through, you know, through them. It's so important. Is his profile helpful or harmful in this situation, meaning, like, obviously he's not the average person that maybe doesn't have the visibility, right? If some average person goes through this, it's them and their family and maybe they're friends. Yeah.

You guys are going through this. There's a much larger microscope on your family. You know, it cuts both ways. I'm really viewing it now as something that's positive because I see a lot of things shifting because of Bruce. You know, it's really opened the door to many different conversations. The awareness of the disease itself. You know, the awareness is so important.

We want people to get diagnosed sooner so that they can get the support that they need sooner so that they can get into the trials that are there. You know, the issue with FTT, it's, you know, commonly misdiagnosis, bipolar, midlife crisis, so that when you get to this diagnosis, which is like three or seven years later, you know, they can't get into the trials that are there. So when you started seeing, when he started exhibiting signs of that, did you think he was having a midlife crisis? I didn't think it was a midlife crisis. So for Bruce, it affected his language. So I was noticing things in his language, which, you know, there was a stutter that came back. He had a severe stutter as a child and that started to come back. So for him it was language, but for others, it can be behavior where it does look like it could be a midlife crisis or something is completely gone awry. And what, like, say that someone's listening and it's like a lightball moment, like, if you catch these symptoms early and get it diagnosed properly, what can you do?

So there is this doctor, his name's Dr. Bruce Miller. He is a neurologist and really specializes in frontotemporal dementia and different types of dementia as well. But one of the things that he said that always stuck with me, that if you see someone in their 40s, 50s, 60s that should have their sort of life together, you know, they hold a jaw. their family person, if you start seeing something with them that seems completely different, that is a change in the brain and that needs to be addressed. So not somebody that doesn't have their shit together. Somebody who had it together. Someone who had it together.

I was going to say, there's a lot of my friends that I can start to think about. Oh, no. Maybe they've got it. Yeah. No, they had it together. They had it together. And then all of a sudden you see a real shift in their personality or something. That is a change in the brain.

So that awareness piece has been, you know, I think really has changed a lot within Frontotemporal dementia and then how people now are like, you know, because of you've talked about it or because I read your book, I read, I realized that, oh my God, you know, maybe this is, maybe this is a form of dementia. You know, I think it's also opened the door for, you know, just like the advocacy that we're trying to do. We were in Washington, D.C. recently being able to like walk into these sense. office and be able to educate them. I think it has a lot to do with Bruce and how beloved he is, how much goodwill there is, and people want to help and they want to hear. And I'm going to walk through the door. I think people do love him, but I also have noticed people love you too. So I think you have to give yourself massive credit. And this subject is not an easy subject to talk about. No, it's very hard. I'm going to leave here and then just go

into hiding for 24 hours because it's a lot. You know, this is our personal story. And it is, it's hard to talk about. Sometimes I can't believe that this is the life that we are leading. But it's really been about how can I live the best life that I can because my husband would want that. For me, for our children, you know, he would want me to make the best out of what is. And that is what I'm trying to do. This for me is important, you know. So when you do something like this or any kind of press or any kind of writing the book, that feels draining and you need to recharge? Yeah, I need to recharge. I need to recharge. And what do you do to recharge? You know, it's connecting with my friends. It's being able just to get out for a walk. It's just trying to go. I'm an introvert.

You know, I have social anxiety. I've taken a beta blocker before I'm here talking to you guys. just to bring the anxiety. What does a beta blocker do? It takes away my heartbeat racing out of my chest. It'll, you know, take the shakes out of my hand. It will stop me from sweating profusely. It'll just allow me just to be calm in a moment. So I can just be able to give what I'm trying.

You're talking about a heavy subject to. This is not like you're doing a book tour for, you know. Like a cookbook? I wish it was a cookbook. It's not a cookbook. No. So I think that that is so important, though, that you're self-aware enough to know that you do have to recharge after something like this. Yes, because it's heavy and it's a big output. But again, I think it's a really important topic and subject. And I just want others to have a different outcome to what we did, you know, leaving with no support, nothing, you know, is, insane. It's crazy. And, you know, if we're leaving like that, imagine everyone else, we had a great doctor. You know, I'm not going to say that we didn't. It's just that. Imagine you guys had all the resources that one could have. That's right. And that's why now it's important to be able to be able to give it to others who don't. But you know, whenever you talk about any kind of trauma in a public form, I think it touches so many people

because we're all human. But the person sharing that then also, especially, in the days now that where everybody's connected. I'm assuming this will reach people and you will get messages about this and that's great. That's part of what you're doing, what we're doing. But then you're also absorbing all of that energy as well. And you obviously want to handle it delicately and support those people, but it's a lot to carry is what I'm saying. It's a lot of responsibility to carry. Yeah.

I mean, I've kind of had to be, because I want to be present and it's so beautiful, like to be able to connect with others and hear other people. stories where I wasn't, you know, I wasn't able to share and people couldn't share with me and now being able to just sort of be open and connect, but I do have to be mindful to not allow, I'm an empath, you know, so I hear things and I really take it in and I can't do that. I have to really sort of protect the space. And I've learned how to do that now. Have you heard of zipping up? What's the zipping up? You imagine yourself like actually getting zipped up in a in a bubble whatever you want that's what I write about in my book zip up well not a zip up but you're saying bubble you call it a bubble I call it a bubble okay and I think

that that's maybe if you want to speak on that to the audience that's a good tip to be able to get in the bubble yes you got to get in the bubble well even as a caregiver right I think it's easy for us to take on especially for someone with dementia where you can't really get into their head and ask them like how are you feeling what, you know, you have to be the eyes and ears. You have to take on and imagine kind of what they might be feeling, but I can take that too far. So it's really important for me to just be able to, I put myself into this bubble so that I can really like assess what's happening. Like not what I'm making up in my head, but it's the same thing like going out where I'm speaking to other caregivers. Like I put on my shield, like step into my bubble and just really be able to be there and listen.

I don't need to give advice but they just want to be heard You know who's the best at zipping up now that you're talking The best I've ever seen is Tony Robbins Oh, okay When you watch that show I'm not your guru

He did like a documentary Okay Because everyone coming to his event Has a reason that they're coming to the event Well we've had also And they all have a story And they want to share And he has if he doesn't zip up

He can't perform at the level That he needs to perform to help them We've had therapists on this show And actually there was a book that we optioned and then built into a show actually called Good Morning Monster. And anyways, these therapists, many of them, as they go through the years, they end up quitting the profession. Because and some of the reasoning they say is like it's just so much drama and energy

that's being dumped on them for so many years that at some point you get your point where like you can't handle it anymore. Well, she said that you stop having empathy too, which was crazy. She admitted that. She said as a therapist, you stop having empathy, which is crazy. That is crazy. That is crazy. Because it's, yeah.

And it's like, you obviously get into that profession to help people in the first place. But at some point, you almost get desensitized to it. Yeah. And then it wears you down. Well, it's probably too, like, you know, when you're walking through the grief as well, there's almost a part of it where you do become a little bit desensitized. You know, I don't know if it's desensitized or you just get used to it. There's, I don't know.

It's very similar kind of thing. The way I think about it, and this is a bad example, Lauren, so tell me to be quiet if I can't see. but Lauren lost her mother at a younger age and has talked about it here. And when I first, when we first got really seriously with each other and I would bring her something that I thought was a big deal, business deal goes wrong. Something that was a big deal to me. It was inconsequential to her. But I would want her to kind of like match the emotional residency.

I guess the emotion that I was having. And it took me a few years to realize that what happens, like if you stretch your experiences in your trauma. Like what's the worst thing that happens to me is the worst thing that happens to me. But if you've had someone who's had something much worse happen in comparison, it feels it's almost like that person. Like I was like, why aren't you more empathetic to me? Why don't you feel what it's, but it's because of those experiences. Yeah, you build up this sort of like heavy resistance, I think, in a way because anything else that happens besides what we're walking through right now is gravy. Yeah, like if somebody came to you right now, I was like,

oh my, you know, I lost my job. Like you're not going to feel as bad for that person. How do you deal with that when you have a friend that comes to you and she's like, my boyfriend broke up with me and I feel like I'm going to die? What do you say? But what would I say? Listen, I'm really good at listening and I want to be able to be there and to, yeah, listen. Just that's all you can do is listen.

But I do think that what. we're walking through is very hard, very hard. Everyone has, everyone has their stuff. I mean, like I think about parents that lose a child, like, like, well, worst, you know, like you can't, you can't get worse than that. No, I don't, I don't think there is anything worse than that. But, you know, I think in a weird way, and this is going to sound even stranger, some of these experiences also kind of become superpowers in life because you're able to realize how inconsequential many of the things that we worry and concern ourselves with are. Yeah.

Right? Where you go online for a little bit, you see people complaining and upset about this person said that or did this. You're like, who cares? Not a big deal in comparison. You know, and even though, you know, this is a hard situation that we are navigating, I do always think that it could be much worse. You know, I do always think that because, you know, what, even what our children are seeing

is how we show up for their father, how we love and care and support him. I think there is something that is beautiful about that. So it is hard, but again, it could always be, it could always be worse. I mean, your children are seeing a beautiful example of a person. If there's a silver line, it's really beautiful. And they get to grow up and read that book that you wrote. I mean, it's, it's, they're going to be very powerful girls. I can tell you that.

Thank you. I just had a sip of this drink. Okay, how is it? So good. Okay. This is my type of drink. Okay, good. By the way, I could add tequila to this.

Does that negate it? So we do, you can do like a mocktail. Like sometimes we get fun with it and we'll put like, you know, a fizzy something in it. And so that's our, it's good. Make time for brain health powder. It covers all your essentials. It's very good for a busy woman who, you know, doesn't have time to take all the multivitamins multiple times a day. that's everything that you need in one drink.

And did you become inspired to launch brain health supplements because of Bruce's journey in your experience? Not fully. So I was experiencing my own brain fog. And I went to my doctor and said, you know what? Like I feel low energy. I don't feel like myself. I'm walking into rooms.

I don't know why. I just feel really foggy. And he was like, you know what? You've got mommy brain. You're not sleeping enough. your stress, don't worry, it's going to come back, and completely dismissed me. And I walked away thinking, okay, well, I'm going to be okay, great. And I just was in sort of that same, you know, feel of just fog. So I got curious and, you know, really went and advocated for myself and found

this brain health specialist who introduced me to this term of brain health and what that really looks like. And I changed my lifestyle and started taking fistful of these vitamins that he'd given me multiple times a day. And I really started to see a difference and said to my friend, who is now co-founder of Make Time Wellness, I was like, I would love to be able to take all of these vitamins and turn it into like a drink powder or a gummy. And she was like, we could totally do that. And that's, and that's what we did. So, you know, it was kind of happening sort of around the same time and I've been able to educate myself so much more probably because of Bruce and his disease and speaking to all these incredible neurologists and people within the brain

health space has really, yeah, in a way, influenced more of what we do at Maytime. What has been the most surprising thing that you've learned about brain health throughout all these experiences that you've had? That one in five women will get Alzheimer's disease versus one in ten men, that we are much more. at risk. As we really started to go down that path of understanding women and their brain and where they need the support and what's lacking and what wasn't on the shelf that we were trying to find that wasn't there, you know, we were walking down these aisles and seeing supplements that were really geared towards men. Yeah. You know, it was like very sort of high performance

for men and no one was talking to women about their brain health and we're so much more at risk. But what I loved is that there are things that we can do. You know, the studies show that like 40, 45%, if you change your lifestyle, that you can, you know, prevent, if not reverse dementia. Let me ask you this. Is it, this is going to sound like a strange question. Did they figure out this statistic because they basically took this after people were diagnosed or suffering? Or did they base the statistic on something because of the brain is wired in the first place?

Yeah, I think that what they've done has just been able to look at sleep and how that affects the brain. Look at nutrition. Mediterranean diet is such a great thing that's known that they've studied to see how, you know, that is helpful for the brain. All those like fatty, you know, omegas and the fish and the leafy greens and, you know, social connection. They've studied all of this stuff and then they've been able to comply. But I guess also as it relates to men versus women, meaning like did they just like. well we just know we just know we see we see but you know women do live longer than men but we also go through a lot of hormonal changes which really changes the chemistry of our brain so yeah my theory is the

reason there's nothing for women on the shelves is because we need more women founders of supplement companies yeah i think it's a lot of men thinking they know what women want you can tell by the design of the packaging yeah and our packaging is so cute It is cute. We're not here to scare women. We're not using scare tactics. What we're doing is empowering women. You know, I think like, and I think that's what I love doing is being able to like give, like hear the information, learn the information and being able to pass it on. That's what I did in my book. That's what I'm doing at make time wellness. It's that, you know, we're learning things that we can do that support the brain. And, you know, that's our most valuable asset. And I wanted to be able, you know, what we do is we talk. We talk. about it in very simple forms. When things get too sciencey and nutty, I just, I can't. I just can't do it. And we try to do it just very simplified, you know, very simplified in a way with ingredients we understand, in a way that we can take, take it that is easy, comprehensible. I tell my chat, GPT, I say, explain this to me like a kindergartner. A hundred percent. I need to be able to digest this.

Yes, because, you know, I think we hear so much sort of on Instagram of what we should be doing. And, you know, and I think that's great. But I think sometimes it gets so overwhelming that I'm like, screw it. I can't do any of it. I can't do any of it. So we just try and keep it very simple. And that's what we've done. And I'm really, it's like my third baby.

If you know me, you know I am fascinated about attention. And I'm fascinated about paying attention. attention to where things are moving before they hit the mainstream media. And that is why I love Polymarket. Okay, so this is something that I've been obsessed with. I've been telling my friends, my family, it's something that really helps if you love being ahead of the conversation or if you're like me and you like to spot things early or you want to be ahead of the times in on the pulse. Just like if you want to stay plugged into what's happening across culture or entertainment or sports or tech, you're going to be into this, trust me. So there's markets on everything. You guys

know there's a market on like if Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shalamee will get engaged in 2006 or AI advances in the tech market. Something that I was just looking at is are the Knicks or the Spurs going to win? Like you can find all the things on polymarket. I was even checking the odds about the next James Bond. I'm having a Bond themed birthday for my boys this weekend. They're born very close together and so I'm into all things James Bond. I think this is a great thing to do too before you go to a dinner party because you can be ahead of conversations. These are the things that you can tap into with the polymarket app very soon for US users. What I think is really cool is it's not limited to one category. So like I said, they have all different things across the board. You can tap into

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What are the things that you think about, like the advice that you want to leave these five girls? What are the things that you think are really important for you to teach them? just how we show up in our lives, you know, being genuine, being authentic, you know, owning who we are. I think that sometimes comes a little later in life. But, you know, they talk about, like, resilience and like, you know, children are so resilient, but I do think it's taught. You know, I think that kids see how their parents handle situations, how they're handling hard situations. And I think that they learn from that. They grow from that. So I'm just, hoping that they're picking up what I'm putting down.

Based on everything you've learned now over the years, what do you believe to be some of the worst things we can do for our brains? Like what are behaviors or things that we're eating or ways like... Don't say tequila. What are the, what's, I guess what's the worst for brain health? You know, I think sleep when people are not sleeping properly. I think that's, we know that to be really bad because during that time when you're sleeping, that's when you're throwing the trash out in your brain. You know, exercise is really important. That's going to, like, help loosen that sticky plaque that we have in our brain. And the sleep is that time to be able to throw that out. So sleep is really important. You know, yes, like what we're eating, we have to, you know, watch sugar. We do

have to watch alcohol. Because alcohol, I don't know about you, affects my sleep. I'm not saying that I don't love a glass of wine or a margarita. Why does it happen as you get older, too? It does. You just, It does. You just wait. You just wait and see what happens. I even smell alcohol these days. I'm home over for two days. You know, and if you're going to do it, if you're going to have a glass, do it, you know, four hours before you go to bed. Don't do it like right at the end of the night. That's going to really screw with your sleep. You know, nutrition, exercise. So being, you know, connected, socially connected. I think that we all feel like we're connected because we can check in on people's Instagrams and we're kind of going along with them for the ride. No, it's not. That's not it. It's really. about community, finding people that you can talk to. What we like to say over at Make Time is grab a friend, go for a walk, talk about your problems. You know, that's a really

great way to find connection and movement and, you know, killing a couple birds with One Stone. I hate to like be somebody who like points at different age groups and generations, but what I've noted is like Lauren and I were one of the last demographics to grow up without technology smart. It's like we got out of college before you had Instagram or all that stuff. It's weird to think about it because we lived before the internet and then after the internet in both worlds, right? Yeah.

But what I say, and we have younger siblings called it like 10 years younger. And what I say is like sometimes you meet younger people. And again, don't be mad to me people where they're in person in front of you, but there's a bit of like a vacant look. Oh, interesting. And it's not, and it's almost like it's not as connected. But then when this thing comes up, it like turns on. And it's almost like it's like powery.

I think they're used to talking to the phone. phone. And they don't know how to connect socially. And it's weird because like, you know, when I grew up, it's like you have to sit with someone, you have to look them in the eyes. You have to put things away. Like you have to be present. You have to be at the dinner table. And I think that for a certain generation, maybe not swinging the way, like a lot of them weren't taught that or just didn't grow up that way. Yeah. But I think it's important because you start to see issues with dating or friendships or holding jobs or growing in a career path. And it's like, you have to have that human connection that you're talking about. It's so important. You know, we can't lose that. I know. We really can't lose that. Yeah. And I think that technology, like we're more connected than ever, but it's actually in a weird way

making us as humans more disconnected than ever. 100%. It's strange. It's a strange thing to observe as I get older as someone who like, you know, you meet some of these people and I work with many of them and I'm like, it's like, are you there? Yeah. No, we need to get back into social connection because that is a pillar of brain health, you know, being able to connect, talk, not just on the phone, like really get together with someone.

It worries me too even, like, listen, I'm not like someone that's bashing. Like we're going to use technology. But if you have all of the world's information at your fingertips in a button right away, you almost like can be on autopilot. Like there's no reason to retain or to think or to do critical thinking if AI can do it for you. I think you have to be intentional now about like making sure your brain works properly. Yeah. I mean, and that's another thing, like mental stimulation.

You know, you need to be able to put the phone down. You need to be able to learn maybe a new language or, you know, play the piano and instrument of some sort. Or, you know, we aren't working our brains as hard as we used to. Yeah. You know, it's so easy to go to chat, GPT. I do it too. Sure, we all do it. I mean, it's an easy thing just to go in there and, okay, got it.

You know, stuff is coming at us so quickly. and it's really important to be mindful of that to take a brain break. You know, you need to be able to put that phone down. I mean, even with our schedules, right? We're so scheduled. I'm so scheduled. I've got things going on nonstop, and I schedule these brain breaks to be able to get up from my computer,

to get outside, just to be able to take a break because we are in such a grind. Like, it's so grinding all the time, but you need to be able to take time for your brain. Dr. Aymn told us to play tennis. Yeah, I said to be playing tennis or any kind of game. But, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine and his daughter is getting ready to go to college. And she was saying, like, oh, why do I need to even remember that?

She was basically making the argument, like, I don't need to remember. And what I tell people is, like, you want to learn how to retain and remember because that's what triggers your brain to work and to function properly. Completely. Of course, you can use these tools. And you should, but part of the reason that you go to retain things to learn things to understand to critically think is to get your brain. brain actually working. Yeah, I mean, even like in everyday life when you, you know, we put an address into GPS and we kind of know where we're going. Just like, don't use GPS. Just get to actually where you need to go without using it. I would never get there, Emma. I don't even know where

I'm going in Texas. Nobody, you know, it's what I can't do this anymore. But I, like, do you remember back in the day you had to read a map or even print things out of it? Ever in my life. I've read many of maps. I had the Thomas guide when I was living in L.A. and the, you know, planned to pari when I was modeling in Paris. Like it was maps and writing stuff down. You know, we don't need to do that anymore. Another thing, it's like if you brush your teeth with your right hand, use your left hand.

Oh, that's a good one. If you're going to the grocery store, why don't you just like remember what you need to buy? And just that's just a way to train your brain, right? Have you done that test where you stand on one foot and you close your eyes while you're standing on one foot? Yeah, I've done that. I'm not good at it.

Yeah, they say like that you want to get good at. Because they say it indicates like if your brain's functioning. Like watch, if you're listening to show, stand up right now, close your eyes. Stand on one foot see if you can stand up still without falling over for 10 seconds. Yeah. No, but that was fun back in the day you'd read a map. I remember I would sit in the car with my dad and I would read the map. And if you make a wrong turn, it's kind of part of the adventure.

Yeah, totally. You had to learn how to go and how to navigate. Miss the map with dad excursion. I don't think dad was reading a map either. I don't know if your dad's ever read a map. And he grew up in a time when you needed a map. My dad's the type that's like we don't need a map and then we end up in Timbuck too. Her dad, Brad, I know you're like, he's like, he still does it.

I'm like, you know where you're going. He's like, got it. And then no clue where he's going. But he doesn't use the far either. He just goes out. What does caregiving look like to someone that has no idea? Like, walk us through like things that we wouldn't think about. What does it look like?

Well, what does it look like? I mean, you're constantly making decisions all the time. I think like caregivers are in, you know, decision fatigue because we are making decisions on someone else's behalf all the time. You know, we're navigating doctor's appointments. We're going into the doctor's appointment and being sort of the eyes and ears of our people being able to, you know, hear the information, write the information down, be able, you know, we're filling prescription pills, you know, making sure you, here's the Monday, Monday night, Tuesday morning, you know, just. there's so much that goes you're dealing with insurance companies you're just you are managing it is a it is a serious job yeah you know you have someone's life in your hands so there is so much that goes into it hence why i say like if you know for your listeners who you know are young and but

yet approaching a time where they might be in that sort of sandwich generally You know, really think about your siblings. Really think about friends that can help and be supportive for you when that time comes. Because at some point, we will all give care or we will need care. It almost is like you have to become a nurse. You're almost taking care of like a newborn in a way, like a mom. Yeah. You have to become a jack of all trade.

I've got a question for you. And now that you've said this and as I'm thinking about it, from a family planning perspective, are there things that you would tell people to look into or do before. So for example, like, say this happened to me, like, I got to think about what directions you should have or if something happens to one of my parents, I got to think about how we navigate that. Are there things that you guys did in advance or that you wish you did that you would tell people to think about doing? Yeah, I mean, I would say, especially for your parents, I mean, they need to be able to say what their wants and wishes are, you know? What would they like for?

All of it. I mean, it's, it's a Pandora's box. It's a dark sort of door to open and go through, but it's something that's so necessary so that you really understand it takes, you know, I, now that I know what I know, I have a very sort of set plan that is already sort of in writing so that my kids don't have to figure out all the things that I've now had to figure out, you know, like all of the stuff. I mean, even from like, do I want to be buried or cremated? You know, what kind of service do I want? Do I want to start? I mean, you really have to get into the nitty, gritty of it, the kind of care that you want,

maybe being able to set aside some money for care. You know, we have to think about all of these things. We really have to map. No one wants to think about it. And that's the issue. And then it happens. And then it, but it's inevitable. I hate to be like the doom and gloom person over here, but that is what I have realized.

You know, I never and would have ever imagined that this would be our life. and I would be the position that I am in. But here we are. You know, here we are. Stuff happens. And we just have to really think about it and get uncomfortable with it and talk about it. And try and make some kind of plan. Do you have something in the book or something, like a resource where people can go get all these questions answered in one space?

And if you don't, I feel like you have to make something. Yeah. Yeah, I have like a website what has a lot of resources on their. I mean, I think what the book is is that as you go through it, you're going to be pointed in the right direction for so many different things. Yeah. Because that's what I did. These are the people who I found that really sort of helped me learn what I needed to know, what the questions I needed to ask, what I needed to find out. You just don't know what you don't know.

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It could be used to lock in. It could be used to stay sharp. There's also some people that say it has neurodegenerative protection properties. And most recently, there's even been doctors going on shows that say some of the people that struggle the least with viral illnesses is people that use nicotine on a regular basis, something about. nicotine guarding the bloodstream. I can't validate any of that. I'm obviously not a doctor, but what I can say personally for me is that I've been taking free nicotine for a while now, and I use it when I need to perform well. When I need to lock in, I like to use it when the moments are

high, when the stakes are high, when I have to do this podcast, when there's something that I really got to lock into and focus on and maybe a topic that requires more thought and comprehension, maybe something that is a complicated topic where I need to really lock in and not be just passively listening. I also like it when I have to lock in as an entrepreneur. I'd be lying if I said every single day. My favorite thing to do is look at a financial statement, a P&L, go through HR. But in those moments where I need to stay focused and stay sharp, I use this as a tool. So here's the thing about free nicotine. It comes in five strengths, three milligrams, all the way up to 15 milligrams. And these are great because they can satisfy different needs. Obviously,

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Is it something like, what does it look like? I mean, thankfully for us, we have, you know, I think what's important for people to understand when it comes to caregiving and especially for someone with dementia, it takes a team of people. I bet. It takes a team, yet people are doing it on their own because they have no option. That's so hard. It is a hard place to be in when you cannot afford formal caregiving. You know, that is a really hard place to be in.

So for us now, you know, we have care and support. And because of that, because that's in place now, I think that has really sort of helped me be able to get out more, to be able to advocate, to be able to talk, you know, raise awareness, be able to talk about. things that I feel is important because my husband has great care. I'm really lucky, really lucky. And I don't know if he knows or not, but he would be so proud of what you're doing. I think so. You've turned the pain into purpose. I mean, really. Yeah. I think he, I think he would be, you know, he was always about, you know, helping others. And I think that that is what I'm doing for him, to honor him, to honor our family, to honor the next family, to just make it a little, hopefully a little easier so that they know that there is support out there. I walked away thinking

there was absolutely no support, that I was absolutely alone in this. And I learned that that is not the case, that there are very, there's a lot of support out there. It's just that you have to go look for it. And that's what I tried to do in the book was be able to bring that to the person who might feel alone or does not know where to start. If someone wants to upgrade their brain health. Yeah. And they want to start thinking about all things brain health. Yeah.

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and just throw it in there and then we've got all the gummies. You know, we just landed QVC, which is awesome. Like, we're the first brain health supplement that they've had on in 40 years where they can actually make a claim. Do we get to see you on QVC? Yes, you get to see me on QVC. It's like my favorite thing. Getting out there and talking to women about their brain health is so much fun.

So, you know, it was like two years of going through legal to be able to get. out there with this product. So that was really fantastic. We're in Target now, which is really exciting. Congratulations. Thank you. And then maketime wellness.com. And you gave us a code. You guys can use code skinny for 20% off at like Emma said, maketime wellness.com slash skinny. And I really like the powder. Oh, I'm so happy. And I also like how it's in little individualized packets. Yeah. So you can just pour it in and go. Yeah. I'm like bringing everything in my purse. It's all over the place. Sometimes I'm bringing the tub. It's just I'm I need efficiency. Yes. This is efficient. You can travel with it. It's much. We do have a container, but, and which is great. It's like a scoop. It's a 30 day supply. That's a 14 day supply. And you can travel with it and take it on the go. And it's great. I love it. The unexpected journey. I loved it. Thank you.

Go grab it. You guys will love it. Emma, thank you for coming on. Where can everyone come say hi to you? Come say hi to me at where am I? Emma Heming-Willis on Instagram. I've got a website as well if you need resources or just help sort of navigating the caregiving world and at MakeTime Wellness. Thank you. Thank you for doing this. Thanks for making the trip.