The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Gwyneth Paltrow - On Real Wellness Routines, Career Advice, & How To Feel Your Best

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

#677: Today, we're joined by legendary actress and founder of GOOP, Gwyneth Paltrow. We're sitting down for a raw conversation on all things wellness, career, entrepreneurship, and parenting. We discuss everything from how GOOP first began and how it evolved, to where "mom guilt" comes from, and why she took a break from acting. Finally, we get Gwyneth's best wellness tips, her routines, and everything she does daily to feel her best. To connect with Gwyneth Paltrow click HERE good.clean.goop is offering 10% off for Skinny Confidential listeners only on Amazon. Use code 10SKINNYGOOP at checkout. To connect with GOOP click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential This episode is brought to you by The Squeezed Juice Use code SKINNY for 20% off any order at shop.squeezedjuice.com. This episode is brought to you by AG1 If you want to take ownership of your health, it starts with AG1. Go to drinkAG1.com/SKINNY to get a free 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Branch Basics The Branch Basics Premium Starter Kit will provide you with everything you need to replace all of your toxic cleaning products in your home. It’s really a no-brainer. Go to branchbasics.com and use code SKINNY for 15% off their starter kit and free shipping. This episode is brought to you by the Clean Simple Eats Clean Simple Eats protein powder is non-GMO, gluten-free, 3rd party tested, always grass-fed and made with zero artificial ingredients. You can get 10% off your first order by using code SKINNY10 at checkout at cleansimpleeats.com. This episode is brought to you by Vegamour Give your hair the power of the little pink bottle. Visit vegamour.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY at checkout to receive 20% off your first order. This episode is brought to you by Robinhood Robinhood has the only IRA that gives you a 3% boost on every dollar you contribute when you subscribe to Robinhood Gold.This offer is good through April 30. Get started at Robinhood.com/boost. Subscription fees apply. Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

You know, when you're a teenager, when you're in your 20s, you think you know everything and you think you're right about everything. I think sort of through my 30s and the failure of my first marriage and dealing with my father's death, and I started to learn like, oh, I don't really know anything. And righteousness or the idea that, you know, you're so firmly in your opinion about something is like the quickest way to shrink. For me anyway, I feel like I have such a rich inner life because I'm curious and my instinct is not to judge. I mean, sometimes people say things to me

and I'll feel myself judged and then I'll be like, okay, no, let's not, come on, don't make that face. Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. Today, we are joined by legendary actress and founder of Goop, Gwyneth Paltrow. Big guest on the show today. We are having a very raw conversation on all things wellness, career, entrepreneurship, parenting. We really get into the whole evolution of Gwyneth's story. And let me just say something. Lauren and I meet all sorts of characters on this show, and I could not be more excited to tell you guys that Gwyneth Paltrow is an absolute legend. So cool, so humble in person. We got into everything. Nothing was really off limits,

and she was just so open, which is sometimes rare with someone who's reached her level of success. So we just really loved the conversation. She was an open book and we went all over the place. We talk about her full nutrition routine, how she went from acting to entrepreneur, her childhood home, the start of goop, why she backed away from acting, mom guilt, and her wellness tips. She also gave you guys a 10% off code for Good Clean Goop, which is an

affordable, clean beauty line. I have been using the Daily Juice Cleanser. It's so good. It's clean. It's non-toxic. It has like hyaluronic acid in it, which I feel like it hydrates my skin, especially after makeup. All you have to do to use it is to go to Amazon. So you can use 10 Skinny Goop at checkout on Amazon, 10% off. Definitely get that juicy cleanser. It's a good one. I've been using it in the shower. I'm obsessed. On that note, Gwyneth Paltrow, welcome to the show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. we cleared something up right before we started last time you were on a dear media show with dr will call it went a little viral broke the internet almost and now gwyneth has a thanksgiving feast every single morning before lunch that's what she does every time now by the way that was so fucked up because of course i don't only drink bone broth what that was edited in such a weird way and it's not i i'm a great eater i love food i just think bone broth as an addition

like if you're working on healing gut stuff it's like a it's like a supplement i sometimes have bone broth just bone broth before noon i don't think there's anything wrong with that it feels good no we do it all the time no i think that's the problem with some of the way that people consume news is to get these tiktok clips and they pull it out of context and they don't hear the rest of the part where you're describing intermittent fasting exactly what did you have for breakfast today i had so i made a smoothie it's the prime protein is the name of it peanut butter flavor which i love got a weakness for peanut butter banana and the prime protein. And then I have some creatine in it and a little like of this got microbiome powder and hemp milk.

Why hemp milk? Because I can't have like rice milk or oat milk because I'm in a paleo phase. So no grains. And hemp is just kind of good. Also, they say not to drink too much almond milk and have too many almonds. And because that can also, I guess, be an issue at some point if you're eating millions of nuts all day long. I got to tell you, I have a dealer for my milk. Hey, don't blow the lid off that.

No, I get in trouble. I have a dealer. I drink raw milk and people get so mad at me. Raw cow milk? Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? Give us all your thoughts. See, now the clip will be turned on us, right? Guys, you're going to go viral for poisoning the American milk supply. I'm telling you, this raw milk, it's really changing.

I drink raw cream in my coffee every morning. Yeah, here we go. Well, look at it this way. Raw farm, raw farm dairy. Do you have to have a, is this a brand or do you have to have a dealer? No, it's a brand. You can get it in a health food store. Okay, see?

Gwyneth, look at this one. It's called raw farm. Raw farm. I, look, I, you'll get this. Of all people, you'll get this. A hundred years ago, there was no such thing as raw milk. There was just milk. That's right.

You know what I mean? I guess that's why I always like, it's crazy to me how we think now we're more special and we just have these techniques. But like raw milk is how we evolve for thousands and thousands of years. And I think there are schools of thought on, I don't know too much about this if I'm totally honest, but there are schools of thought that think that drinking raw milk is better because once you process it and everything, that's when the dairy becomes harder to tolerate. And it makes so much sense.

And I do have to tell you, there's something to it with a pre-workout. Because it's a little bit of protein, a little bit of sugar, a little bit of carb with the coffee. So you get that kick. I love it. Can we get a goop raw milk? Let's get a goop cow. Oh, that's good. I thought you were suggesting that i go like

milk myself and i mean that'll get pulled on tiktok once we get a little more warmed up in the episode we'll get to those topics but but for now we're gonna we're gonna keep it kosher i would like to go back like back back okay when you were young obviously you knew that you wanted to be an actress, I'm sure. But did you know you also had an entrepreneurial spirit? I think that actually artists and entrepreneurs are really cut from the same cloth. It's such a similar personality profile. And, you know, an entrepreneur is always thinking like they see a vision of a story of something they can create and put in the market. And an artist is the same. They have a vision for a story that they want to execute and put into the world.

And I think artists and entrepreneurs both have to have like unbelievable, like actually delusional self-belief because everyone is like, don't do it. You'll never make it. You're going to lose money. No one's ever going to hire you. So I kind of think it's the same thing having done both jobs. Very, very similar. Obviously the skills that you need to learn to be an entrepreneur, if you're growing a particular kind of company, you have to learn all of those hard skills. But the spirit behind both, I think, is the same. Would you look back on what your parents did really right? What was it?

I think that they did, even the stuff that they did was wrong, was right because it made me who I am. Give me an example. Like I think I grew up in an era where my mom had a very fixed idea about like what I was supposed to be and if I didn't measure up like I you know I felt like oh, I really, so that felt like pain to me. And I think like it galvanized a certain, like, I can do it. I have to prove myself. So even things that were maybe kind of like hurtful at the time, I think ended up being things that really helped me be the kind of person who could achieve a lot. My parents were also like, my mom was also an incredible artist and so warm. And like our house was full of artists and I got to watch her, you know, do plays and rehearse plays. And I was also sort of

in awe of her and what she did. So I kind of wanted to do that job because it looked so, she was so empowered when she did it. And I think my dad, you know, he just like loved my guts, you know, he just like loved me so hard and made me feel like an incredibly valuable person. And for my brother and myself, I think he really, he made us feel that we were important, even when we were little, that he listened when we had something to say. He laughed at our jokes. So all those little touch points like really encourage, I think, a kid to explore who they are and push the boundaries of who they are and gives them permission to be who they are. Are you taking notes on this for your daughter you should be taking notes what did your mom think she wanted you to be like an anthropologist or something like that that's not what i was

expecting you to really she always said oh you're too smart to be an actor you should do something more academic and this is pretty academic goop in its own way for sure yeah how old were you when you actually started acting you know what i was watching that day with my daughter she's four watching hook oh oh my god that's my debut and it was vintage and i was like wait a minute because and i just i forgot because i just it's been so long why would you remember i had one line and she was and it's crazy to watch that movie because we grew up with that. And then now I have a four-year-old and we're looking at it. But I was like, oh, Gwyneth.

When you think back to your achievements, is that one of your first moments that you felt like you achieved something? Or were there moments before that? Honestly, no. Because that was like my one sort of cheat. Because Steven Spielberg kind of were very close family friends and he just said, hey, do you want to come and do this one line for me? So, which was thrilling, but what was more thrilling for me was, you know, being in the coffee shop on the corner of 91st and Madison,

where my school was, you know, when I was a senior smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee and having a casting director who had no idea who I was or that I was at, you know, at all attached to the entertainment business came to me and asked me to audition for something. And I went in and I auditioned for the movie and I got a call back and they didn't know who I, you know, my mom was or my dad or anything like that. Not that, you know, my parents were super, super famous, but definitely very well respected in the industry and known. So that I felt like, oh, I'm doing this on my own, you know, like, and that felt, that was really exciting, even though I didn't get the part.

You know what my favorite movie that you've been in is? What? What do you think of it? I don't know. I want to know. I want to hear. Royal Tendon Balls. Oh, that's a classic. favorite movie that you've been in is what what do you think i don't know i want to know i want to hear royal tendon bombs oh we love that movie we did it we take christmas photos each year i'm like you know we're doing this stuff all the time it's like how many more pictures of people of us do people in our family need so we find movie posters that we like and we dub our faces over the characters we did royal tendon bombs yeah that's that's. I feel like that is a cult classic.

Yeah. Was that fun to film? It was so much fun. I loved it. It was great because it was also a very intense time in my life. I had won the Oscar and there was so much focus on me, like too much. And went into this great, what felt like just this great independent movie in New York City. And we just had such a good time.

And I loved working with Wes Anderson. He was amazing. And it was great. It was like, I think it was in 2000, we made that movie or something like that. But does your kids watch these movies like Hook and the Royal Tenenbaums or do they not even go there?

They hate seeing me in movies. Really? They like weird out. They don't like it at all. It feels weird. Especially my son. How old are they? My daughter will be 20 in May and my son will be 18 in April next month. And they still don't like it? They don't like it. I think my daughter has now seen me in, I think now she's sort of, she's seen Tenenbaums. I think she's getting more used to it, but my son really doesn't like it. And definitely when they were little, they really didn't like it. What happened when you achieved so much with everything you achieved with movies? Did you just feel like you were burnt out with acting and you wanted to pivot? Like what was the transition

into wanting to do something so entrepreneurial from acting? What wanted to pivot? What was the transition into wanting to do something so entrepreneurial from acting? What was that like? Are those your real eyelashes? They're individual fakes. They are so pretty. They're drugstore. Mine are real. I'm just mesmerized. I was listening to your question and then I sort of got lost in your eyelashes. They're fake. Wow. They're just drugstore Ardell individual lashes. I'm so impressed. Yeah. I feel like I need to go copy right back.

Taylor, go see if someone in the office can get some new eyelashes before we continue the show. My friend Gillian, who's here, she calls them snuffleupagus eyelashes.

They're so pretty. No, they're not. You know what? You know what is snuffleupagus eyelash? I so pretty. No, they're not. You know what? You know what is snuffleupagus eyelash? I don't know if anyone has stooped as low as I have

to be watching season six of Love is Blind. No, everyone tells me I have to watch that show. No, please don't. Why? It's just like

you feel your life slipping through your hands. But I can't stop and I'm waiting. I think there's a new episode dropping tonight. This is the one where the girl told him that he said who do you look like and she said i look like megan fox the pro i think i think that you shouldn't say that you look like anyone because

you're setting yourself up do you know what i mean like just say you'll have to wait and see yeah you know i agree i haven't seen the show meaning like you don't want to shoot too high and then like i don't want to be like i look just like michelle pfeiffer you kind of do i love michelle pfeiffer she's been on this show you know what i mean like you just gotta like you i maybe like i feel like i should be like i look like schmigel from the rings and then you're like so surprised. You want to set the bar low. Yeah, maybe lower expectations.

I think that's smart. Anyway, one lady on that show has really, really intense eyelashes that are very fuzzy. I sort of like them. I think they're kind of cute. But it makes her look like a snuffleupagus. It's nice in the house. I walk around and I'll find a few eyelashes on the pillows and on the couch. Yeah, my daughter says, Mommy's eyelash.

That's so funny. Just a little touch. When you achieve so much with your acting. Sorry, I took us down a side. No, we love a tangent. And you decide, is it like you almost are an astronaut? You go to the moon, you've done it it all you want to just make a pivot or was there a part of you that you look back that you're like oh I should have kept acting no I never look back which is so weird but I think

it was a combination of things I think you know I I had been a very achievement-oriented person. Yeah. You know, unhealthily so, I would say. I needed to do a lot of work on like really understanding my own intrinsic value, as opposed to having the world reflect back to me like, oh, you're good, you did this, you got that. And I think I, you know, I turned 30 or 31. I had my daughter. And I was like, I kind of went into an early midlife existential crisis where I was like, who am I? Do I even like this job? Why did I do this? Why am I famous? This is really brutal. Why did I do this? Why have I put myself in this position? Do I even like acting? And luckily, I had saved money and I could take time off. So I took like three years off to, my family, what was important. And I think I had also

burnt myself out. Like one or two of those years that I was working, I did five movies in one year. Wow. And it was just a lot and a lot of it was fun, but a lot of it was really lonely, you know, and I'd be somewhere by myself, no friends, like eating room service. I felt very disconnected from myself, from my family. And I'm like a very home body person. I love my family. My brother's my best friend. I just want to be with my husband and my kids. You know, I've had best friends since kindergarten and like seventh grade. Like I, I really love my people and I, some people love this kind of nomadic artistic life, but it was, it was hard for me. I felt, I felt really lonely.

And also like, I don't know, it's, it was a different business at the time. It was definitely different rules around how women were treated. I think they've made a lot of stride since then, but you know, I just felt like I needed a break. And then I started thinking about this internet that was kind of early and I have always had such a passion around food and travel and kind of cracking all the secrets. What is the fastest route to the best thing in this city? And it kind of came out of that. And it came out of me cooking at home and my friends saying like, what temperature do I roast a chicken at? And I just started aggregating all the stuff for my friends. And then I thought, well, maybe this could be like a website. And then I decided to do a newsletter instead. And then it just kind of went. I mean, this is a long time ago.

This is 15 years ago, pre-Instagram, pre-influencers, you know? When you did the newsletter, I remember when you did that, did you know that you were content marketing for a website and a brand eventually? Or did you just go into it to do a newsletter, like for your friends and whoever subscribed? I had no idea what i was doing at all like i i figured out a monetization strategy way way later i had no idea i was just like i have this passion to talk about this cool stuff you know i remember one of the first things i discovered on your website was this creepy hole in the wall foot

spa in Aspen. Oh my God. It's the best. I know. The best. It's the best. And I get someone on each foot and I go for two hours and just work on my phone. It's like the best. That's where I got my first introduction to a foot spa. And now I find a foot spa in every area. She goes everywhere. That's where she does the majority of her work. I'm a connoisseur. It has to be like hole in the wall. You might get a happy ending in the bath. You never know. But I remember that's one of the first things that I discovered on your website. So good. There used

to be one on Perry Street in New York called Angel Feet. That was that. I don't know if, I don't think it's still there. It was like in a little basement of a townhouse. It was totally up your alley. The creep like the better like like weird grout in the tiles and all that yeah you would have loved it smelled really musty and oh my god it was the greatest place in the world i find my wife if i can ever find it also

it's like the fish tank is moldy and like there's lollipops from 2001 that are like dum-dums that are like kind of crusty but like yeah when we lived here full time we used to go all the time and then it kind of that spot got you're missing out i've built half my business in a foot spa i'm telling you no i know it's been a while spot that i discovered through goop was you're welcome yeah yeah you're welcome it's like seriously like people probably have these moments where they found it no it's good she comes back a different person yeah yeah who knows what happens in there you'll never never know. Whatever happens in there, it's finally, if you come back,

it's good moods all around. When did you start to know that Goop had such brand potential? Because how long has it been that you've been doing this? So I sent the first newsletter out in 2008. So that's 15 years ago. I want people to hear this part

because people think people are an overnight success. Yeah, no, no, no. And this is 15 years of you building this to be what it is today. So in the beginning, when did you start to be like, this has momentum, this has legs for a brand? So I remember there were a couple moments. I remember doing an early, early, early like sort of Christmas gift, like roundup stuff that I had found for Christmas gifts and got an email from one of the businesses I mentioned saying you I did this

was like six months later saying you completely changed my business she's like I cannot believe the volume of requests like my life has completely changed. And I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. And then I started anecdotally hearing these little stories like about how I was really impacting these women-owned businesses for largely women-owned. And then when I started to raise money in, I don't know, five years later, so probably around 2012, 13, there was one investor who sought me out to invest because I had mentioned another one of his portfolio companies on Goop. And they had seen this incredible spike in traffic and customer acquisition and conversion and all this stuff. And it sort of stayed high. And he said, like, I want to know what happened

on this day. And they said, oh, we were on this website called Goop. And then so that's how I got my first investor. How do you go from being this such a famous actress to then going to have to raise money? Because raising money is not a joke. No, not at all. And especially if you don't know anything about it. I don't know if you did or you didn't. I mean, there's a lot of great people. There's also a lot of bad actors in the space.

You have to really kind of pay attention. For sure. I knew nothing. You know, as I said when I started Goop and started down this whole path, I knew so little about technology, e-commerce platform forms email service providers you know venture capital i knew nothing i knew none of the acronyms so i've learned i had

to really very much learn on the job the boys club it took me like twice as long as it would have taken anybody else who was sort of already that's interesting for you to say that because i would assume with you and maybe there's just like and maybe there's a perception to clear up for people listening it's like i would assume because of the platform and your notoriety that it would be easier oh not at all not at all especially at the time i think now it might because now people understand that there are business models around influencers and all that but at the time was like this person has no authority to be starting an e-commerce like how is this actress coming over content yeah interesting and so it was a long process of you know learning getting really close to my business

having to understand that you can have the importance of strategy, but that there need to be benchmarks along the way. Like you need to create a plan to execute the strategy. And it's been a long process, but now we're a pretty well-functioning business. When you think about kind of the duality of your career, one actress, entrepreneur, what has been more challenging for you? What do you find harder? Definitely my goop career just in terms

of the steepness of the learning curve how many mistakes i made you know when you're an artist you can there's a little bit more of a there's more latitude and if you're doing a movie and you do a bad take you're just like wow guys sorry about that and just do it again. But in a company, if you make a decision, it can have a very long tail that's not good. You can make a decision that's really a disadvantage. So definitely, definitely running goop every day is, it's been, I mean, I love it so much and I love what we do, but it's been really, really hard. And there have been so many challenges along the way, so many challenges. Out of all the challenges, what would you pinpoint? For me, I had to transition from being a solopreneur to an entrepreneur where running a team is not a joke.

And especially a team as big as you have. Has there been certain things you can point to? I mean, the team thing has been, the people thing has been the hardest for me because I have a natural aversion to confrontation. Yeah. And, you know, giving feedback has been, it's taken me, you know, probably took me 12 years to learn how to give honest feedback. How do you do it? Pretend you don't like something right now.

I would say like, well, give me an example.. How do you do it? Pretend you don't like something right now. I would say like, well, give me an example. Like what did you do? Give Michael feedback on the way he combed his hair for 45 minutes. Well, it's flawless. There's no feedback. Say there was something that wasn't flawless.

Say there's somebody that is being done that, and you disagree with the way it's being done. You have a clearer vision of the way you think. How do you share that information? I selfishly want to know because i need this tip i mean i start with questions so i because i never assume that i know the answer like if i if i would do it differently there might be a very good reason why they've done it a different way and if they have the domain expertise like i would want to understand why, what led you to make this decision? Usually I find that the problems occur when there's a breakdown in communication from somebody's side. Like they're not saying, hey, I want to, this is a company that's about communication and collaboration. And unfortunately, it's your job to move the ball forward.

This is your area and you need to communicate better, whatever the case is. Or sometimes if it's really hard feedback, I think you always just want to be very respectful and you want to point out all of the ways in which they've done their job well, but that the expectations that you have for a person at their level are different and this is what you expect to see and while you're in the middle of this entire process because running a company is not easy as we've discussed how do you make the decision to go back to acting and was it just because you had the marvel opportunity or was it you felt called back to acting because that's to me when i hear running a company and then going and creating all these new movies, that just seems so overwhelming. Yeah. Well, at the time, it wasn't

a big business. When I did Iron Man 1, I'm trying to think if it was even, I hadn't done the first newsletter yet. Okay. Because what was that, 2008 that came out, right? Is that around that time? I think so. When I filmed the movie, I wasn't, when I filmed Iron Man 1, I was not, I wasn't sending the newsletter yet. My son turned 1 and then I started Iron Man. And the reason I did Iron Man,

I wasn't, I didn't feel called back at all. It was like an old insecurity. Robert Downey Jr. was like, if you don't, he's an old friend of mine. He was like, if you don't,

He's amazing in those. do a movie, like, they're going to forget about you. And he's like, and I was like, oh, okay. He hit the insecurity trigger.

Yeah. He's like, you better. And also I was doing, I had always done a bunch of indie movies. And he's like, don't you want to be in a movie that people actually see? He, he did the,

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And I was wondering, it might be, is it you maybe? Or is it her at this point? Because like you've been in a shitload of these movies. I've been in three Iron Mans, two Avengers, I think. Lauren's like, what's going on? I'm a comic book I'm Royal Tendon Bonds Oh

Okay but so it's five At least Six Five Taylor how many And then Get off Pornhub Taylor And let us know

Get in the game Taylor And then Spider-Man Apparently I'm in Uh huh Yeah Now you're in a suit though too I was having this conversation The other night

I am very stressed with how much I work with having two kids under four it gives me massive anxiety like if I were to look across the board that's the thing that gives me the most anxiety is being away from my kids when I work but if I don't work

I really don't think I'll show up how I should show up how did you manage all that? I have major mom guilt. But like, why stop? I don't know. You have to stop, like stop berating yourself. It's horrible. I'm gone for three days right now. And I'm like, I should be home. I'm like, I don't know what's wrong with me. It's pretty bad. It's that we live in a society where we just are taught to beat ourselves up and always feel that we're doing the wrong thing did you ever feel like that when when you were working and you had oh my god i have this one night that i remember so well i was doing a movie called

country strong and i was in nashville and when i had kids i i kind of limited the size of my parts. So the last time I really starred in a movie where I was in every scene, I was pregnant with Apple. So since then I've done, you know, a couple of weeks here, you know, to try to manage the mom thing and the guilt and all that. I was doing Country Strong and we had shot a scene and we were waiting to shoot another scene and there was a big i don't know turnover and set or something so i was sitting in my trailer for a really long time and i called my kids and we have this amazing nanny at the time marta from spain because we lived in london and i heard and marta was she was so sweet and she had them both in the bath and they were laughing and having the best time and I was like I am the worst like I was so heartbroken I

was so full of guilt I really had to say to myself like I'm doing this role where I'm getting to sing country music and this is also a part of me and I'm doing the best I can. And it's okay for me to be heartbroken that I'm missing bath time. I'm not going to miss every bath time. And, you know, just to try to like have some ease and grace around it because like it doesn't help you ultimately as a mother, if you're going home and you're feeling laden with guilt and then you're energetically off and then they feel that you're going home and you're feeling laden with guilt and then you're energetically off and then they feel that you're off and it just doesn't, I don't think it's productive. It's so crazy. He'll go away the same time as me. And I'm like, don't you feel bad? Don't you feel good? And he

said, no, nothing. No, you don't though. I don't say no, nothing. I miss my kids tremendously. Not like me. No, I love my children and i miss them but i don't feel listen i don't want to like be sexist or anything but i feel women maybe feel a certain pressure in this area that men don't i mean maybe because the way society's set up we feel like it's normal for men to go or has been more normalized for men to go out and work and build a career and i think there's been this stigma put on many women's like oh you're working and you can't work and be a good mom at the same time. But we just have to stop that.

Because like a lot of us want to work. And for a lot of us, it's really good for us to work. A lot of us have to work in order to put bread on the table. I don't think she would be as great of a wife or mother if she didn't do her work. I don't think she would be as happy as a person. And, you know, I've also seen, you know, I have friends who do all kinds of things, who stay home and are with the family, who work, who don't have kids, who breastfeed, who choose not to. And I've just seen this emerge, this incredible judgment that not only women have for themselves, but other women have for other women. And we really need to stop doing that.

It's not productive. And we really need to stop doing that. It's not productive. And we live in a different time. Look, I think on some level, it's for a lot of mothers, and this is not all mothers, but for a lot of mothers, it feels very biological. So we feel that there's something

physically missing from us when we are not in the same room as our kids. Some men don't have that. Some men do have that. But I think it makes it harder for us women who have that, that our baseline is like, I'm sitting here, but I'm not totally okay. Like, my heart is in, you know, where are your kids right now? Austin, Texas. Okay, my heart is in Austin. Like, I'm here and I'm half here. But, the more you can accept you've you've you've built

this amazing career like this is and think about the the the modeling that you're providing your kids for being true to yourself and doing what you love try to remind myself it's important I think it's really important I watch my mom work she still works for as long as I can remember and to the modeling perspective like that to me was always a natural thing when we got with Lauren's like it's I always grew up with a strong example of the woman in the household working right it's like a normal thing I think it's I think it's good it's a good example where did your and also I'll just say like one of my best friends you know has raised a whole bunch of kids and now she's like but who am I why am I here you know I have a number of friends who

are really struggling with that you know because they feel like they made the kids the center of their lives and now their kids are growing up and they're like why am I on this earth and they're really having a difficult time with it I'll tell you this none of my male friends have ever grilled me and asked me if I have nannies I I see so many people asking all the time, her friends, other women comments, do you have nannies? And like no guy has ever said, Hey, do you have a nanny buddy? Yeah. This is not a thing. It's very, it's very, very sexist. Where did your nonjudgmental attitude come from? Like you're, I feel like if I told you that I use Michael semen on my face as a skincare moisturizer, you'd be like, yeah.

I'd be like, that's so interesting. Tell me more. Well, you kind of do at times. I got to go home to my kids at bath time. I didn't know you wanted to go. I'm just saying like where we- Listen, Lauren, if I could be of service to you, if I could be helpful. Stem cells and the moisturizer.

I mean, if it's good for you. But I feel like you do have that very nonjudgmental approach. Is that always how you've been? No, I would say, you know, when you're a teenager, when you're in your 20s, you think you know everything and you think you're right about everything. I think sort of through my 30s and the failure of my first marriage and in dealing with my father's death, and I started to learn like, oh, I don't really know anything. And righteousness or the idea that you're so

firmly in your opinion about something is like the quickest way to shrink. Like lack of judgment and curiosity and openness makes, for me anyway, I feel like I have such a rich inner life because I'm curious and my instinct is not to judge. I mean, sometimes people say things to me and I'll feel myself judged and then I'll be like, okay, no, let's not, come on, don't make that face. How do you deal with all the judgment on the internet? I feel like if you say anything, it's like people just... I think you in particular. Yeah.

Like, not to single you out, but... I think it's because she's so non-judgmental and she's so open with what she's doing that that attracts the judgment and the projections. Like, the fact that, I know we were joking about that clip earlier on Dr. Will Cole's show. Hi, Dr. Will. Hi, Dr. Will. That that went so viral.

Like, you could, okay, we have 70 or 80 shows that we produce all the time. You could take 70, 80 episodes and say the same exact thing and there's no way it's going as viral as that one. Yeah, what, like, why, what is that?

I mean, that's always kind of been the mystery for me too. And I think that it's probably some combination of, you know, I've been famous for a really long long time so I'm sort of this person in the culture and now I'm sort of like you know I've moved through now I'm sort of getting to be like an elder statesman in the culture I think people have project a certain thing onto me and I think I'm also you, honest and I have like, I can have a pretty

outrageous sense of humor, which I think people don't expect from me. Here's what I will say, just sitting in this brief time with you, we interview a lot of people in your line of work and you are very forthcoming and honest. And sometimes, you you know you see a wall of 18 different pr people with you're very relaxed and i listen i'm saying this so also when future guests come on right but it's like even your team was like they're like she's so funny and so relaxed i said what can i ask her they go anything i think most that doesn't always happen i mean you know that my point is i think most people that have reached some of the levels of notoriety that you have, some of this stuff is like walled off or protected in a way.

I feel like it invites the public opinion. I think they're not used to seeing someone that has such a big platform just... Be honest. Yeah. And I don't, you know, I am so not on the internet. Like I don't, you know, I am so not on the internet. Like I don't, I don't read stuff. Like I think we've got, we really collectively as a culture have gone so of these platforms, like imagine, honestly, like close your eyes for a second and imagine what it must feel like in your body at baseline for you to get on there and be like, you mother, blah, blah, blah. You know, like imagine the state of that poor person that they actually get relief or a release from being nasty. And if you met them at a lunch, they wouldn't do that.

They would ask for my autograph or no, no, selfie. Sorry, I'm dating myself. I feel like in a way the selfie is easier. Than an autograph? Yeah, sure. It's like boom. I'm like, what way the selfie is easier. Than an autograph? Yeah. Yeah, sure. It's like, boom. That's all.

I'm like, what are you going to, I used to think like in the 90s, what are you going to do with that piece of paper that I just wrote my name on? I think maybe frame it. We're all going to be robots soon anyway. That's true. That's, yeah. And the neural link is coming. What's the weirdest wellness thing that you're doing right now? Shock us.

There's got to be something crazy. Gosh, there's not right now um well okay how about this how about that maybe you don't think is weird maybe i won't think is weird but maybe people would think is weird i feel like i'm in a place right now where everybody's sort of caught up to me you know with cold plunges and saunas and cupping and, you know, eating clean. Cupping is vintage for you. Cupping is vintage. I was the first cuppy.

You were. I went and cut my face the other day and I didn't know that I would have a big swell. Doesn't it feel good though? Yeah, it did feel good. I think stem cells are going to be, you know, I have a lot of friends who are leaving the country to go do stem cell treatments, exosomes, that kind of thing, which seems super interesting. That's kind of fringy at the moment. What do you think with how you're going to see Goop evolve when it comes to wellness?

You know, it's interesting. I think for us, it's really, of course, we have some great wellness products, but it really is this idea of beauty as wellness, right? Like clean, non-toxic, really efficacious product and also great foot massage recommendations at Aspen. You know, our focus is really beauty and fashion in terms of what we really sell and what people really want from us. and the wellness content is super important but the for me we have fused our beauty line with wellness so it's kind of the same i read somewhere and i don't know if this is true that you said that after goop you just want to go off the grid is that is that a true quote i would love to go off the grid like what are you yeah are you like

on a ranch are you like in spain like what are you doing that's so good are you just she doesn't blow her cover i don't want to blow your cover but like are you it's okay spain's a big country are you i would definitely get off social media i'm on social media you know for the purpose of providing a platform to talk about the things that i care about and to create enterprise value at goop and stuff like that i don't think it's healthy i don't like it sometimes i'm in the bath at night and i catch myself just like scroll scroll and i'm like this is toxic so toxic and by the way i don't even follow anything gossip or anything, but even just the forced engagement, like that forced dopamine thing it does, I think is really detrimental.

So I would like to be off social media. I would like to be, yeah. We'd never see you again. I mean, I have a fantasy of really going off into the sunset and just like making dinner for my husband and reading books and maybe writing a book. I think it would be cool one day, you know, like back in the day when you turn on the TV and it was like, it's just like all black. Yeah. You like went to listen to the podcast. It's just like, and you just never see him again. I love it.

Oh, that's so chic. I'm into that. No, no. Hey, it's been great. We're going to say bye. No long. No farewell tour. Hey, it's been great. We're going to say bye. No long, no farewell tour. No farewell. Just gone. That's kind of what I aspire to at some point. But I've also learned at this point, I would never say I'm never going to do this again or never going to, you know, I mean, I could decide I could catch an acting bug again at some point. Like that could right i have no idea how are you managing your children

with social media like do you have set rules around it do you have conversations around it that's a big question yeah i mean so i i didn't let them do it until i mean my kids got phones when they were 12 yeah that's that's probably the right age. Yeah. 12 sounds right to me. And then I wouldn't let them be on social media for a while. You know, it's funny. My daughter is so cool. She's like, this is toxic. And she kind of does it. She's private on Instagram. It's just like dope. She's like, I i'm not gonna feed into this whole paradigm so she's kind of you know she's she's so cool she's at college right now and she's also she's just kind of like you know she she paints in her spare time like she's not scrolling instagram

and my son is a boy so he kind of just doesn't give a fuck you know it's not even like a sorry i just swore it's happened before i'm sorry i don't think you need to swear like he just he's he's not he just is not wired to think or care what the culture thinks about him that's pretty cool yeah i mean i guess what i was gonna tell my daughter when she gets older is like it's a movie set yeah like you're watching something with lighting with filters with makeup with hair yeah it's it is like it's hard because they can't discern that and it's like it's everything's so presentational and they're getting these really strong messages about what they're supposed to look like that's what really kills me for the girls you know and they all have a degree of anxiety that I did not have in my generation. And I know,

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you uploaded the full album right but i think the framework that i use personally that i want to teach my children is is this a productive tool that's serving you or are you a consumer because if you're a consumer and you're just you're just you are the product no then you're being like ricocheted all over what is your your morning routine? It's pretty boring, but give us like the, I know I see you wearing the iPads on it. Like give us like the details. I love those iPads. Yeah, give us, I want the details of that. So I wake up, my husband and I meditate together in the morning, which is great because- What kind of meditation is it? TM.

Okay. How long? 20 minutes. Okay. Not too bad. So we do that. And then we have like coffee time and email and stuff like that. And then my son gets up and half the week his son is there too. But his son sort of like slips through and goes out. My son sort of lingers around and, what are you guys doing?

What are you talking about? And then I exercise and then I go to my office and then I come home. What's your exercise? I do Tracy Anderson method, which I've done for 17 years, which I swear by. Is it weights?

Lightweights. And it's kind of, it's almost like her workout is like choreography, but don't think about a full dance. Just think about sort of certain angles and it's online. It's incredible. In fact, she has a whole streaming community and those women, their bodies are incredible.

Sometimes I just go on and like, I can't believe when they have dedication to her. We'll have to check it out, Lauren. Do you? Is that a dig at your wife? No, I was like, no, I'm saying all like, we'll have to get on and check the body. Oh, oh, oh. Choke it this way. You can go on and check it. I was like, I thought you meant like, you better get on that Lauren. Lauren and me, we have been weightlifting together. It's pretty, pretty cool.

That's hot. I had to lose 60 pounds. After the baby? 60 pounds. That's a lot. My friend Kate had gained like 57. Yeah. I understand. I was so hungry when I was pregnant with my son. I could not stop eating.

I really couldn't. I was Veruca Salt. Wow. Yeah, I was rolling around. It wasn't that bad. Pull a picture, Taylor. I was rolling around. You we had two babies that's okay wait are you doing tracy anderson with tracy anderson are you doing the app are you doing

it by yourself so all three sometimes i'm lucky enough that she'll pop by and teach me which is like awesome a lot of times i'll do it with one of the trainers and a lot of times i'll do it online she has like an incredible amount of content online. You can join the online studio and do it. So I do that a lot as well. Are you doing seven days a week? No, I do Tracy Anderson three to four days a week. I do Pilates.

I love Pilates. I need to like have some strong, you know, heavier resistance and stuff. And then my husband and I walk as well. Every weekend we take a long walk. And what's your nighttime routine? Dinner, six or 6.30. Are you cooking? Sometimes and sometimes not.

It really, it depends on the day. A lot of days I can't because of work. I only get home at like five. Okay. So you're at the office all day. I'm at the office all day. I cook a lot on the weekends. So weekends I cook breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You do? I do. I love to cook and I love

to, I find it really relaxing. What's the go-to meal that you're cooking? For what? Which meal? Let's say for breakfast. A lot of times, so we have a little vegetable patch, you know, in California we're so lucky with like it's incredible how abundant i'd love a cow too a cow i feel is in your future you live in texas i told lauren we could get cows and chickens and all the stuff i'm so has to participate in helping i think she thinks the animals just take care of themselves i know that's a whole it's a whole thing so you have a vegetable garden that you can go out and pick stuff. I don't have that. I'd love that. So right now it's winter. So there's a lot of kale. There's a lot of Swiss chard. There are leeks. It's so good for you to have that in your

backyard too so there's not pesticides. Exactly. So I go down and I cut a bunch of stuff and I'll make a frittata or sometimes I'll make a shakshuka just like my husband doesn't eat a lot of carbs either so we both had long COVID and that was what precipitated the kind of no grains for us so I cook like you know lots of eggs and protein and vegetables you eat a lot of meat so do I eat a lot of meat because you're paleo, right? I'm paleo, but I didn't eat meat for like 21 years. So what changed that? It was a couple of things. I mean, I think understanding that I was really low in protein and some physiological changes were happening in my body that were not good and I needed more

protein. So I still have a little bit of a hard time with red meat. I don't eat pork. It's just like not my jam. I still sometimes have a hard time like cutting into like a steak. I sort of gross out sometimes, but I still will have it. But if it's like a meatball or something like that, I have an easier time. But if it's like a meatball or something like that, I have an easier time. I know that's so weird. No, it's not weird. I understand what the steak.

It's just like cutting into the flesh. Sometimes I kind of gross out. Yeah. But I think I'm more omnivorous now than I've ever been. If you were to tell our audience to do one wellness thing that you think is absolutely life-changing, what would it be? To forgive yourself. That's a good one.

Yeah. Very like Louise Hay. Love her. We all walk around like we hold these sins in our body, you know, like I did this or I shouldn't have done that or I wish I was more like that. It's just like let it go. Forgive, forgive. That's a good one. Yeah.

What can we expect next for goop? Well, okay. First of all, we're eating, let's say what we're eating. Cause we're eating the blackberry flavored, the bodyguard immunity shoes.

So you guys, I just want you to know, I'm so like when I started goop, it was so like the clean beauty movement was not a thing at all and the more i educated myself around what is in products that we put on our bodies which become transdermally absorbed the more i felt like as a woman we deserved way better. So we created our Goop Beauty line to finally have really clean, efficacious, like with clinical results behind it beauty. And then recently we were able to launch Good Clean Goop, which is in Target and on Amazon. And I'm so proud of this because it's very much in the same vein as our Prestige line, but the price point is much more accessible.

And it's that same like beauty as wellness. So there's a botanical ingredient in every one of these things. There's a clinical ingredient. And they're just, it's so good. I'm like obsessed with it. And I really think we over-delivered on this product. And I'm excited for you to try this is the right audience we had um ken cook on the show from the ewg we're talking he's amazing he's amazing yeah and yeah i don't think people realize like how much they're

bombarding themselves with no all sorts of different things you know what i use my body sculptor and i don't have a body oil to use with it. Okay. So this I'm going to use with the sculptor. It's a naked elixir body oil. So it gives you like a glow. Yep. And it's clean beauty. Very clean. This is and very beautiful. This is the move. Michael, you could use a little of this on your elbows. You know what I mean? What the hell's wrong with my elbows? It's like well, I like to use the oil for like if I have a mini skirt or I'm showing my arms. If you have a really dry area, I recommend the body smoother. Maybe I'll get some of my bicep right now. It smells so good.

Get a sheen going. The body smoother. I love. Ooh. So pretty. That's beautiful. I have to try. This is good for your elbows.

Okay. It's a rich cream. What is your favorite product out of everything? Look at the sheen on my bicep now no she is you guys should see her face yeah she is she's blushing i really love this the daily juice cleanser it's like a green juice for your face you're gonna love this this is like god it foams it's, it has chlorophyll in it. It's so detoxifying and fabulous. It doesn't strip the skin. It's a very, it's like, again, beauteous wellness. Does it remove makeup?

Yeah. Amazing. I think if you have like super heavy duty. Don't wear snuffleupagus eyelashes. I don't know how it will do with that. But I don't know. There's a lot going on right now. But you're so pretty.

You never know under the makeup. Wait, now I need that for my other elbow. Okay. Pass the good, clean goop. So you know what I'm interested in is the eye patches. Oh, okay. Tell me about those because I love eye patches. So that's from our main line, our Goop Beauty line.

Okay. And they are amazing. In fact in fact my husband even when he wakes up tired he's like can you pass me the eye patches they really work i use her if she has them in the fridge i'll use them if a good eye patch there's nothing better than that okay i'm gonna send you that's my that's my favorite thing on the planet they're incredible and we have a an eye cream like a brightening eye cream that I put on after that's amazing too. And this line has a brightening. This is the Wide Awake Eye Serum, which is actually amazing too.

Maybe I should have. Lauren said yesterday it looked like I was falling asleep and then I got stung by a bee. No, you know what I said he looked like? That's unloving, Lauren. You know when the peanuts are dancing and they're closing their eyes? You know, like Charlie Brown and the peanuts? You think that's what he looked like? Yeah, he just needed some eye cream.

So this is good for him. It's going to wake him up. Here, I'm going to put some on you. Taylor, check that off my list. My eye is taken care of. You do look more awake. Yeah, I feel good. You wouldn't know this looking at me. I'm a quarter Japanese. Really?

My grandmother's full. She just passed, actually. They're going to pull this clip on TikTok and put it together. No, I don't care. F you, TikTok. What I said is... Yeah, it's a little... Lauren, it's a little bit racist from you because I'm feeling a little attacked. I'm just kidding.

But no, and I... You guys are hilarious. I have, you know, I did get a little bit of the Asian eye where my eye, I have deep hoods. That's a blessing. Yeah, no, I know. My grandma lived to 94. I'm going to live forever. So tell us what the benefits of the Wide Aw where my eye, I have deep hoods. That's a blessing. Yeah, I know. I know. My grandma lived to 94. I'm going to live forever. So tell us what the benefits of the Wide Awake Serum.

It just opens your eyes? Yeah. I mean, here. I feel good. Is there a little caffeine in there? I'm a big beauty junkie. Hydrate, smooth, brighten. Okay.

Ooh, this is beautiful. This all-in-one gel combines peptides, stabilized vitamin C, caffeine, and adaptogens to fight the visible signs of aging. It helps smooth lines and wrinkles, brighten the appearance of dark circles, and reduce puffiness. How do I look now, Lauren? No more Charlie Brown look? Before you go, can you just quickly tell us how you develop all these products? Like, what's the process? Do you actually go on and say, we need an eye patch? This is what I want. This is how I want it. Or do they present it to you and you say, I have my edits. So it's a collaborative effort. You know, there are beauty marketers who it's their job to assess trends in the market, what people are wanting, you know, is it time to make

a sheet mask for your face? Is it not all? So there's, you can actually get a lot of data around what people are suggesting I think a lot of it is also then instinctual it's like well this is what I really need right now and how can we make the best version that hasn't been made before we work on we kind of work on one main thing at a time so of course we'll have a few things in development but we don't have like a ton of product in development. We really focus on our hero products and we're sort of known for exfoliation and that kind of like getting rid of, you know, dry, dull skin. So we have amazing exfoliating products. I found your products to be, to me, the way it's rolled out very intentional too. Yes. You know, sometimes how like a celebrity will launch a brand and you can tell they just went to a company

and white labeled 600 things. And it's like a one, two, three, four, five step. With yours, it feels like what you just said, you rolled it out to what you wanted, like what you needed. Like when the iPad came, it felt like you were like, I really want a nice iPad.

And then like you guys created one together. That's right. And also, again, like the non-toxic part is so important. And for a while, people thought, oh, if it's clean and non-toxic, it can't, it doesn't, maybe it doesn't work. It's actually not true. The clinical results behind our products are incredible. And you can have the best of both worlds. And again, like it really drives me crazy. Like for example, with the eye patches or the eye masks they're called there are some on the market but they're not clean you know so i i think ours

work the best well also it's when you think about it it's right by your eye yeah it's kind of like it's it's going into your skin and it's by your eye yeah for sure just like these eyelashes that are definitely toxic you need to make some eyelashes. Quickly, you mentioned peptides. Have you experimented with peptides at all? Peptide therapy? Like injections? Yeah, I have. What do you think? So I did a course of them when I had really, really high inflammatory markers after COVID and I thought they were great. I did a short course and it was good. This is a while ago now. I've done them for like the cognition and stuff like that. And again, actually also after we had COVID in the past and I feel like it just like helps kick the body into gear. There's like been a lot of, I think that's also kind of one of the next things that's going

to become more mainstream. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Can we do a giveaway? Yes. Okay. Can we do your favorites? Like a basket of your favorites? What should we do? Can I just give the whole Good Clean Goop line to somebody? That would be amazing. Okay. All you guys have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic and follow at Good Clean Goop on Instagram. There's two. There's two. Right. I am very obsessed with what you're doing. I think it's so inspirational. Thank you. I really look up to it.

Thank you so much for taking the time. My pleasure. You're lovely. It's so down to earth. Where can everyone follow you? I'm sure they already do. At Gwyneth Paltrow on Instagram. Thank you for fixing my eyes, Gwyneth.

You're so welcome. I feel like a whole new man. He's going to go brag to everyone now. You look pretty good. I'm going to go around town to everyone, talk to my guy. Your eyes do look more open. Kenneth Paltrow just fixed my eyes.

Thank you. Dusty guys, I'm sorry for you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Don't forget to go shop all of Good Clean Goop. It's an affordable,

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