The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - How Lana Rhoades Became Porn's Biggest Star & Then Left it All Behind

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

#483: On today's episode we are joined by Lana Rhoades. Lana is a former adult film star, content creator, and entrepreneur. On today's episode we discuss how Lana became porn's biggest star and how she was able to do so. We also discuss why she decided to transition out of the adult film industry and how many women are taken advantage of in that space.  To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) Check Out Lauryn's NEW BOOK, Get The Fuck Out Of The Sun HERE This episode is brought to you by Homesick Candles. To Try Homesick candles and receive an exclusive offer click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential  The Hot Mess Ice Roller is here to help you contour, tighten, and de-puff your facial skin and It's paired alongside the Ice Queen Facial Oil which is packed with anti-oxidants that penetrates quickly to help hydrate, firm, and reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, leaving skin soft and supple. To check them out visit www.shopskinnyconfidential.com now.  Produced by Dear Media 

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I found this show called The Girls Next Door of Playboy. But I watched the show and I was like, oh my gosh, their lives look so glamorous compared to mine. I'm here trying to stop my sister from committing suicide every day. And I could be jumping on a trampoline into a pool at like this big mansion. the gorgeous the beautiful the one and only lana rhodes is on the skinny confidential today i am so excited she is on the show because i wanted her to tell her story i didn't want someone else to tell her story i feel like her story is told by so many other people and to come on the podcast and own her narrative was really cool to hear. Lana Rhodes is an American model. She used to be a pornographic actress. She talks about this. She is now a boss, an entrepreneur. She does not work in the porn industry anymore,

but she is very active on her OnlyFans page and other social media platforms. She also works behind the scenes and in front of the camera with Playboy, and she's a total social media guru. She has a huge following, like 10 million followers. And on this episode, we get to see a different side of her. There are so many taboos surrounding the adult film industry. I'm sure so many people that have tuned into this episode already come in with their preconceived notions of what it means to be an adult star. And not only was Lana Rhodes an adult star, but she was, I think at one point, the most popular adult star in the world, which is crazy. And she did it all in an eight-month span of time and then left and now is no longer participating in porn. It's a crazy story. When

you hear about her childhood and her upbringing and how she got into the industry and then how she got out and what she's done since, it's crazy to think that she got this level of fame in an eight-month period of time almost a decade ago. With that, let's meet the charismatic entrepreneur, successful podcast host, and the mother of a baby boy called Milo, Lana Rhodes. This is The Skinny Confidential, him and her. How the fuck do you look so good after four months postpartum? So I just started losing weight about a week and a half ago, but it's keto, it's nomad, and it's calorie deficit. And I lost 15 pounds in the past two weeks. Okay, you have to get specific. What does each of these diets mean? Are they mixed together? I think instead of just doing one thing, you should do all the

things. If you want quicker results, usually people would be like, oh, I'm just going to do keto or I'm just going to do a calorie deficit or I'll explain all of them. So keto basically is high fat, low carb. So right now I'm consuming less than 10 carbs a day and I'm eating basically, this is kind of disgusting, but almost carnivore. So I get Wagyu beef, ground beef, which is hard to find, but it's at Air One, which we're lucky enough to have in LA. And it is the highest percent fat like beef or ground beef. Meat is zero carbs. And then every once in a while, if I need a snack, I'll eat like a piece of cheese, which is also zero carbs. And then nomad means you do a 24 hour fast. So I eat one meal a day, also at almost zero carbs. And then the

third factor is an extreme calorie deficit. So what I'm doing is not for everyone, but I have gone four months without losing any weight, working out extremely hard. However, I was always super skinny. So I never really understood what you have to do to lose weight. So this has been a learning experience for me. I finally got a Fitbit and I'm like tracking my calories. I used to just shove my face and eat whatever I want. It's not for everyone, but it does work. And I think keto and fasting, intermittent fasting is extremely good. Have you got your hormones checked? I have. I always was telling Beck, I'm like, I think my thyroid's broken. I think like, no, I was just eating three pounds of dates a day. Oh, I love dates. They're so good. I know.

So many carbs and it shoots your insulin up because they're so sugary. Oh, I love dates. They're so good. I know. So many carbs and it shoots your insulin up because they're so sugary. But once I get to my goal weight, I told my friends we're having a date party. We're getting a huge pile of dates, peanut butter, cashews, chocolate, and I'm going in. You know what I appreciate about you? In Hollywood, if you ask someone how they lose the baby weight, they're like, I I'm chasing my kid around and I'm breastfeeding and I breastfed and I didn't move a pound. And it was so frustrating because I had been told by like all these celebrities that all you have to do is breastfeed. It's actually refreshing that you tell your real diet.

Yeah. Because everyone lies. Well, that's the thing about me is I am like so honest. Like I can't lie. I'm actually like too honest. I can't keep surprises. Like it's bad. Now that you've had a baby, what's changed? And I would love to know what's changed during the pregnancy and what's changed after. Oh my gosh. I'm a completely different person after having my baby. It's honestly, so my pregnancy was just awful. I feel for you so much right now being pregnant. I'm so over it. Mentally and physically, my pregnancy was awful. The entire time or towards the end? I first found out that I was pregnant, super excited. I always wanted a baby.

And then I was like, I'm going to celebrate this. Me and my friend, we went to Hawaii and one of my dogs ended up having a tragic accident and passing away like a really tragic death. And it kicked off this massive just depression. And I think the hormones from the pregnancy, it was a depression that I had never felt in my entire life. And I just spent my entire pregnancy in bed. I quit talking to all my friends. I didn't talk to anyone for 10 months. And I moved to like a house and didn't see anyone. You know, it's like, I just completely isolated myself. It was the most depressing time in my life, but it's given me, but then followed by the day that I gave birth to my son was the best of my life and now I just like I just love life so much after going through the past like the 10 months that I

had of like isolating and being miserable I just enjoy everything so much more now and then my son also he's bought me so much more joy and helped with any type of depression that I had even prior to pregnancy. It's weird. I sort of always felt like there's like something missing inside of me. And then now that I have him, it's like it's full. Sorry. No, it's amazing. I still have the postpartum hormones too.

I was crying for a year. So don't worry. I was crying for a year. I think I cried yesterday because someone was coming here talking about how the kids grew up too fast. Oh my God, don't start me on that. No. So you said't start me on that. So you said something to me off air. You said your birth was amazing.

And I felt the same way. I was trying to describe it to my husband. I was like, everyone complains about it. But I felt like this intenseness that was almost addicting. I want to do it again. Yeah, it's weird. I would love for you to speak on that because no one's ever said that to me back. I mean, it's so hard to explain, but you seem to be someone who also doesn't enjoy pregnancy. And so we are just really, really pushing to get to the point of

meeting our baby. And so after I got the epidural, I also like, it's not like my labor was like great. Like I had to get a full episotomy. I believe that's the word. Like I was cut from my vagina to my butthole and my baby's heart rate kept going down because his cord was wrapped around his neck. But you just love your child so much and you're so excited to meet them that you're like, do whatever it takes,

get him out here safe. And as soon as he came out, I just couldn't stop staring at him. Like my eyes just couldn't stop staring at him. Like my eyes just couldn't break from him. I mean, also the epidural and then they inject you with something that's like heroin that might have something to do with why it felt so amazing. The best time. It was the most euphoric like moment in my entire life. I'm not sure if it was because of the baby or the drugs, but it was great. Probably a combination. Yeah. When you're cut like that

and you're on an epidural, did you feel that? No, my epidural was great and I didn't feel anything after. Oh my God, you're so lucky that you didn't feel that. Prior, because I was also induced. So I drove myself to the hospital for my birth and I gave birth alone. I wanted it that way. No one should feel bad for me. I chose to do that. And so it makes your contractions a thousand times worse when you go through a medical induction and you get Pitocin. So horrible contractions and then epidural. Good. Felt great. You gave birth alone. That's bossy. Yeah. I've never heard anyone say that. What was that like? Honestly, so the induction took about 24 hours. It wasn't pain the whole time, only after my water broke, it was extremely painful. But it was, I mean,

it was a little boring. I'm also a workaholic though, so I was like working while I was in like labor and getting into this. But you knew, did you have a schedule and you knew you were going to go or? Yeah, so it was a scheduled date. I knew I was going to go. I had like work on my phone that I was doing the whole time. Like I gave birth, then I got back to working the next day. You're wild. I went on and saw you have a baby Instagram, like where you give baby tips. Oh yeah. I ended up taking my child off the internet just because, you know, a lot of negativity, not necessarily around him. But if

anything happens with me, people like take it out on him too. So I'm just like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. My child's the most important thing to me. He doesn't need to be on the internet. Sometimes it'll happen. Like I did a podcast the other day and he needed me while I was on the podcast. So I bought him on and held him. But other than that, you know, we're not doing any like intentional content with him. I will tell you though, I loved your tips on that page. I was like looking through them. If there's a way for you to like do that page without showing him, that was super informative. You were showing, like I was looking at your highlight, you were showing us like what you were eating. Then you were talking about like how you were walking on the treadmill. And I always say that word wrong. And like you were, you were talking about like how you were walking on the treadmill. And I always say that

word wrong. And like you were giving us like the real stuff that you were doing. And it was like a couple of days after giving birth. Yeah. Yeah. I got right back into it because while I was pregnant, you really, my job is the internet, it's social media, it's producing content, it's selling ads for my Instagram. So I didn't feel like doing it when I was pregnant. You know, you just, I filled up with water so bad. You know. And so I was just pumped to get back to work and just be myself again. However, I do have to say my expectations were unrealistic

for my body going back, my mind going back, just feeling like myself again. It takes a lot longer. And I thought, you give birth, boom, I'm going to be me again. That's not what happened. It's a work in progress. And women need to be patient with themselves. It does take a long time.

I had postpartum depression and anxiety for like a year. And the only thing that snapped me out of it was mushrooms. That's how I snapped out of it. And supplements. Okay. Yeah. Add that in, Michael. And supplements.

So I've experienced the opposite of postpartum depression, just like extreme, like almost like mania, just extreme happiness. You struggled while you were in it more, like while you were pregnant. While I was pregnant. Yeah. But I would love to hear it. Like what was postpartum? Because I hear so many women talk about it more, like while you were pregnant. While I was pregnant, yeah. But I would love to hear, like, what was postpartum? Because I hear so many women talk about it, but I've never experienced it.

What was it like for you? You get intrusive thoughts. So, like, I would be in the kitchen and there'd be knives on the table and you think, oh, what if the knife... It's going to fall on my baby. Yeah. Oh, wait, I had those types of thoughts. So that's a little bit of postpartum anxiety.

And you can't shake them. And it's like a fog. And, you know, I remember we rented this house for a period of time and it was like one of the happiest times, at least for like us and our child and what we were doing. And then Lauren looks back on that period and says like, it was one of the worst times, but it's weird. It's like, I'm having an experience, like one of the best times she's having experienced

one of the worst times. Cause she was so in the postpartum depression, like she couldn't see clearly. But this time I will say the first trimester I felt depressed. So I can empathize to be depressed. Like you said, in bed for 10 months and isolate yourself, that's really hard too. And then you're gaining weight. And then like, it's just, the whole thing is it's a lot. And I feel like it's not talked about enough. It's some women enjoy pregnancy for others. It's absolutely awful. Like horrible. Like you're like hashtag surrogate.

It was the worst year of my life. And I've been through a lot. Yeah, it was, it was, it was a lot. You have been through a lot. I want to go way back with you before people knew who you were, before you had any kind of platform or any kind of notoriety. What was your childhood like? So I'm from Chicago, grew up in Chicago, Just like some of the main points, I grew up also with a single mom. My parents got divorced while my mom was pregnant with me. So she raised me and my sister. So much work.

Yeah, but my mom worked full time. She's also a workaholic. However, my sister has severe mental illness that started to come out when she was like 12, 11 years old. You're older or younger? Older sister. She's almost four years older than me. So that sort of took over my childhood because my mom was always at work. My mom's a very smart lady, works in IT, like 12 hour days. So when my sister was sick, I would have to, you know, take care of her. I didn't get to really go to school and like study and do those things. Cause I was so busy making

sure my sister doesn't kill herself or kill our cat or it's like severe mental illness. It got that bad where you, those were real concerns for you. That was like every week there is like a suicide attempt in my home growing up. Was there drugs involved with her or was it mental illness? It's mental illness. So it was sort of like a trickling effect. First, she had symptoms of like pulling out her eyelashes and eyebrows. It's called trichotillomania.

We thought no one really knew what it was in my family. We're like, this is weird. As a child seeing that as well, it was very scary. I thought she looked like a monster. And I didn't want to look at my sister. And then next she developed an eating disorder, anorexia and bulimia. And so my parents are like concerned at this point. They're like, okay, she's pulling out her hair.

She's not eating. She looks very strange. No offense to her. And then came the suicide attempts. because she's pulling out her hair. She's not eating. She looks very strange. No offense to her. And then came the suicide attempts. And then that's when they were like, okay, this girl needs to go to the hospital. Got diagnosed as bipolar first. And then after 18, she just really disassociated and started. It was obvious that it was schizophrenia at that point. What triggers that? Is that something that happens from trauma when you're little, or is it just something that's hereditary? I think that you have to have either the chemical

imbalance or something, not a scientist, but it already has to be the way that your brain is wired or a chemical imbalance. And then it can be triggered by traumatic events. My sister struggled so bad when she was around the same age with horrible addiction, heroin addiction that lasted years and years. And with my family, one of my parents were very focused on her and helping her. And so it kind of, in a way, sometimes like I got not, I didn't get left by the west, the wayside, but like, it's hard when the parents are so focused on the problem. Did you feel like that too? For me, it was more so her mental illness was so draining and traumatizing for me that I felt like, can you guys please keep her in the hospital so I don't have to

call the police every day and stop her from killing herself? So I didn't even think about like, oh, I'm not getting attention or this is going on. I just wanted her in an appropriate place. So I wasn't responsible for her anymore. You were just being overwhelmed by having to take care of her all the time or worry about her all the time. Yeah. And I didn't know how to, like, you don't know how to speak up at that age. And the school would ask me like, oh, are things okay at home? And I didn't want to get taken away or anything. So I would tell them, oh no, it's fine. Like everything's fine. So now in your life today, are you more into chaotic situations or are you more into being

like calm and zen? Cause it goes either way, I feel like. Yeah. So I need everything to be calm and zen because of my upbringing. Can't handle any type of stress. If something's stressful, I eliminate it immediately. That's how I feel. I feel the same way. I like that part of me. I think sometimes we'll try to like go to that chaotic place with him, but I, for the most part need my environment to be like calm. Well, we just had somebody on here, really smart guy.

And he was talking about, you know, sometimes people have a tendency to go to what's familiar. So if you've had an upbringing that's chaotic, you will end up doing chaotic things in your adult life or like, you know, or going towards those places, which could be counterproductive obviously as you become an adult.

Yeah. I've done everything to get away from that and remove myself from toxic situations, chaotic situations. I can't stand it. I need to live in peace. When your sister was out of the house, was it better? I think I ended up leaving the house before her. Yeah, because I'm just as soon as I turned 18, 17,

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on at my home when I was a child was worse. That is wild. It was almost a relief to be there. Yeah, it was a relief. And then I did not go home after I got out. I was 17. I got a job. I rented a room from this Asian family. They're renting a room and I supported myself from that point forward. So at what point did you decide to come to LA and did you come to LA with the intention of getting famous or was it nothing like that? I came to LA for the first time to shoot pornography. And how did you even know to look for that there? Like, was it something you sought out or did it come to you? So I, to support myself when I got out of prison as a minor, I got a job at the

Tilted Kilt. It's like Hooters. I did that until I turned 18. And then I started working as a dancer at a strip club. Was that fun? It gave me a lot of confidence. I didn't think that I was like attractive or pretty or like no guys would like think that I was attractive. You have boyfriends on and off in high school or middle school? I had like one boyfriend, but I wasn't like a popular girl or anything. And I didn't really get to go to school that much. So the kids that I was hanging out with were like older people already in their 20s.

At that point, I never went to actually I quit going to school in eighth grade. So it sounds like you didn't. I mean, in a lot of ways, you didn't really get to have a full childhood. Yeah, which sucks sometimes. And I like doing I feel like I regress sometimes. I like drinking juice boxes and doing innocent things because it makes me feel... Because you grew up really fast. Yeah, I grew up faster than I would have liked.

Eighth grade, you stopped going to school. So when you also went to jail, you also got the education too, aspect. Yeah, they were like, here's a high school equivalency test. I took that. I passed that college level. It's pretty impressive. And we're going to get to this, that you stopped school in eighth grade and you've built this massive like empire and it's business and everything. I mean, that's pretty cool. Inspiring for someone who maybe someone's listening who dropped out of school. Well, it sounds like, I mean, like the path hasn't always been the easiest path, but you've figured out how to find success even amongst

all of this chaos, which I think is interesting. Yeah. I've always been extremely resilient and just, I think from all the struggle tenacious. So when I want something, I go and get it. Obviously I'm never one to step on anyone's toes. I work very hard for everything that I have. She knows my manager is here. I'm a very hard worker. So when I decide that I want to do something, for example, I thought that when I was younger, I thought that porn was for me. Found out very quickly that it wasn't. I said, okay, what am I going to do next? I met someone who did Instagram. I was like, I'm going to do Instagram. They get paid more than I do for taking a picture. And I'm doing something that I really don't like doing. I want to talk about that because I saw a quote, I'm going to misquote you, but you said

something like you saw what people that were creating content online were getting paid compared to what you were getting paid as an adult star. And I think it's relevant to talk about because it sounds like there's a brighter light that could be shined on this industry and the way some of these women, well, I guess, and men are being treated, one, from a compensation standpoint, and two, from a career standpoint.

Like it seems like people are, a lot of people are being taken advantage of. Oh, yeah. So for reference, at the time, I was one of the most popular girls getting booked the most. I was getting $1,200 a scene. I met a low level YouTuber, Instagram guy, not the ones that people know that I associate with now. He was getting $15,000 to post a picture on Instagram. Which is crazy because you're shooting a full sex scene. He's taking a picture and you're getting paid 10% of what he would.

Yeah. But I want to go back when you, when you decided, Hey, I want to go into the porn industry. Was there anything that, that did you, first of all,

did you want to do it on your own accord? No one was making you. And second, when you did do it, was there anything sparkly about it at first or was it always dark side? Yeah. So the whole reason why I thought that it was a good idea was because when I had these things going on at home when I was a kid,

I found this show called The Girls Next Door of Playboy. And I work with Playboy now. It's a completely different brand than it was then. But I watched the show and I was like, oh my gosh, like Kendra and Holly, their lives look so glamorous compared to mine. You know, I'm here like trying to stop my sister from committing suicide every day. And I could be jumping on a trampoline into a pool at like this big mansion. And so it looked great. And by the time that I was 18, glamour modeling and like Playboy wasn't really like a thing where you could make money or a career anymore. So I guess the next thing was porn.

So I was like, okay, that's how I'm going to get this lifestyle that I want. I never really, I was very young at the time. So I was 19. How old? 19 years old. I never thought like, I also had only slept with one person at this point. So I was very sexually inexperienced. You slept with one person? One person. That's wild. And for whatever reason, I never comprehended like

to do porn, you actually have to have sex with people. It was just the idea of, okay, I'm going to be like Anna Nicole Smith, or I'm going to be like Holly Madison or this person. It was like an idea in my head, but I wasn't mature enough to realize what actually went into it. And very, very quickly I realized this isn't for me. So the first time you go and do something, do you have anxiety? Like I would, I felt, I feel like I would have to like have a little bit of tequila or something. So I also did all of the sober for a long time. I didn't drink after because I had, when I was younger, I really had a great healing experience from going to prison. And they obviously, the people that I looked up to

there told me like, no drinking, no drugs. So I did all of this sober. Wow. Yeah. It was mostly just bad judgment because of my age. Were other people that you were on set with though, drinking drugs or is it not like I've read books I've read Jenna Jameson's book which is incredible everyone should read that such a good book yeah I think porn the porn industry is infested with drugs and alcohol abuse and it definitely can drive people to that maybe though why you were so successful is because one of the reasons obviously you're beautiful it seems like you're very smart. Also not drinking and using drugs maybe really work to your advantage. Yeah. And also it's just, I think if you wake up, no matter what you do, if you want something, you wake up every day and you work towards it, like you're going to get

it. So like for me, I had like, I would go to porn set and I had like a binder with like my tests, my tests printed out for the day, like very organized, professional. All the directors loved me. Like I've always just been an extremely hard worker. And so that's what I attribute to any success that I have in life. Let's blow the cover off porn. How real is it? 100% fake. Taylor's dying. Taylor's dying right now. Sorry, Taylor. Sorry, Taylor. It's like circus acts. As a performer, when I was doing it, it was like, what face can I make? What sound can I make? What can I do in this movie to make it the best one?

Because I don't even like having sex. Honestly, I'm pretty much asexual. Can you develop a connection? Hold on. You're asexual in real life? Pretty much. I never hook up with people. I don't find people attractive.

And I've always been like that. It's not like there's a change after doing porn. You just broke so many girls' and guys' hearts. I'm just not a very sexual person. Do you understand Taylor's crying right now in the back? There's a bucket. I wore this leather jacket for nothing. He wore this leather jacket.

You should have done Y2K then maybe. Oh, you maybe had a chance. What the hell is Y2K? Am I too old? Do I not? That's Y2K. It's like 2000. Oh, yeah.

Maybe I am too old. It's like seventh grade. Is that how old we were then? Maybe ninth grade. It's so popular right now. So the porn industry is so fake. You're breaking like everyone's heart. I'm sure there's people that actually like it.

Just I am how I am. And I'm not like a very sexual person. So for me, it was what can I do to make this director happy or these fans happy or win this award for this director? It's always just been about work for me. And how long is the stint of porn or how long were you doing porn? Only eight months. Okay. So it's quick.

That is quick. That's very quick. So for the, you skyrocketed though. Yeah. That's crazy that you only did it for eight months and you became, I think you like were like the, one of the most popular.

I think I'm still like number one on like all porn sites. You are. I just checked. It's crazy to make one decision when you're 19 years old and then, you know, become the biggest porn star in the world when you didn't mean to do that. But that's why I think, I think that you're so interesting because you almost leveraged the

experience in a, in a way to like build your own empire. Yeah. It's like, it's smart. Which that's why I can never say like, I regret any of my choices. Like, sure, I'm not super proud of it. I personally do not condone boy-girl sex scenes

or pornography. I think it's very bad for the girls and I just don't like the industry at all. I want you to talk about that. Why do you think it's bad? Because I think that from your perspective, someone all. Why do you, I want you to talk about that. Why do you think it's bad? Because I think that from your perspective, someone who's actually done it, people hear that, and they may not fully understand what it's like to participate.

I mean, essentially you're having to have sex with people that you didn't choose to have sex with, that you might not find attractive. You might actually think that they're disgusting and you have to have sex with them because it's your job imagine you don't like get to say okay i'm in the scene with this person like they do not really and sometimes you don't even know who you're going to set to do that with and how should a 19 year old girl be put in that position having to have sex with people that they don't really don't want to touch their body at all. And so I don't think that it's great, no. If you could wave your magic wand after everything you've been through with that industry,

what parameters would you put on it? Or would you just make it disappear? I would say now there's so many resources for girls to do like OnlyFans and control their own content, I would say go that route. Don't do something where other people are telling you what to do with your body and controlling you. Is there anyone you met throughout doing it that you were like, this is fun and I'm attracted to them? Or was it really, you were just like, this is a job, I'm in with my briefcase, out with it? I dated one guy who was like a director and also a performer only one only one yeah and if you had

your preference did you prefer to do girl boy like was there a preference because I feel like for if it was me I don't think I could do like I don't I think two dicks would be way too much for me I could I would rather do it with a girl I think people should just you know stick to like one dick like missionary you know mission stick to like one dick, like missionary. Missionary is underrated. Missionary is the best position. Missionary is an underrated position. Taylor, did you hear that? Boys, I just want to let you know. I love missionary. Are you kidding me? We're out here trying to get too fancy. Yeah, you guys do get a little fancy. Keep it simple. Keep it simple. Yeah. Missionary is like really nice for the girl. I like missionary. Yeah. You, I'm sure you like everything, but I'm just saying missionary is like...

That's how you got her in this position. I know that's number two. So is there anything else if you could shine a light on that industry on the dark side of it? Maybe shine a light isn't the right word, but showcase like the dark side of it that you would point to, maybe point out to people that they don't know. I feel that a lot of girls like my younger self see, you know, they could even look at me on Instagram now and be like, oh, I want to be like her. This is what she did to get where she is. There's so many other ways. I really believe that if you can make it on social media, you can make it on Instagram, you can make it on TV. Like you don't need to do porn to do that because you

probably won't make it in porn either. Had so many friends and girlfriends who thought porn was a good idea and they don't end up with the same outcome as me. They end up with a bunch of videos of them getting fucked on the internet for their family to see. They make no money and it's over for them. What percentage of people that do porn do you think find success like you found? One percent or less. Top, top, top, but like, okay. 1% or less. So, so the majority of people end up doing this. And like you said, they don't have a great outcome. And then all of a sudden it's like,

yeah, it's horrible. I can't imagine having everyone see me naked and what they're able to see of me and not having gotten what I have out of it and not having the life that I have. I can't imagine having to go to school after and be harassed or having to work a normal job. And then your boss finding out, you know, that they can see your tits online. Like that just seems like a nightmare to me. Now a word from our sponsor, BetterHelp. Therapy is all the rage right now. If you're on TikTok, you know this.

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basically what they get known for. Yeah. Yeah. Like I can't imagine having to deal with that and then also having to live like a normal life when you thought you were going to get success. And for me, I'm lucky because if I'm in a position or I'm around people that I don't want to be around because they treat me a certain way because of my past, I can just be like, sorry, not messing with you. I'm in an extremely well position in my life to do whatever I want, have my baby, do the jobs that I want now, work in clothing. Going back to porn, I don't think that it's good for anyone. They should make it illegal. Wow. You know what though? It's honest. Yeah. Was the epiphany for you to get out of porn when that person told you how much they were making on Instagram, was that your final straw?

Yeah. I already wanted to quit. I just didn't know how to say no. Yeah. And then I met this guy and I was like, okay, this is a way out. I'm going to do what he did. And I essentially grew an Instagram account from zero followers. I started one to, I think like 8 million. And then I met Logan and Mike. I started doing YouTube and then obviously took off even more from there. And now just so if you guys are wondering, she's at 16 million followers on Instagram, which is absolutely wild. And it just came from like one thought of, okay, I'm going to quit porn and I want to become an influencer. And then it's turned into something much more. I'm a business owner now. I'm, you know, I'm doing so much. Even, I don't even have to post on Instagram anymore to make money.

So, and for this audience, when you say Logan Paul and his manager, Mike. Oh, Mike's not his manager. What are they. They're like best friends. Are we old? Listen, imagine that I'm like 8,000 years old. So I'm like, so Logan Paul, know who he is. Mike, I thought he was a manager. I don't know what he is. No. Yeah. They were like friends and they lived together. And then Mike had a YouTube channel and we turned it into a couple's channel and it really blew up. He got super famous from it. I got more accepted in a mainstream way from it. So it was really a mutual collaboration.

So people stopped looking at you as that version of yourself and it's like, okay, you're a digital content creator. Yes. Okay. So when you hopped into doing influencing, did you like it right away? It was more so, okay, I need to reach this goal on my Instagram and then I'll get a brand deal. And it just sort of kept going from there. And yeah, at first it was just like, I would love to get sponsored by Fashion Nova. And then I put in a year of work and then they eventually reached out to me and sponsored me. I was one of the first adult stars to start getting brand deals. That's cool. Have you feel like that's opened doors for other people who are in the porn industry that wanted to get out?

Definitely. Yeah. I think, I think I led the way sort of for sort of like a blueprint for girls who made the same choices that I made that want other options. And I've also, I think, made it more acceptable for brands to work with other girls. I'm happy about that with the brands because it seems like it's getting better and better. At first, it was like I felt like they only were going for like these really cookie cutter girls. Yeah. And now it's changing and evolving, which is nice. Yeah. Well, now look at this girl, Chloe Cherry. She was on Euphoria. She was a porn girl. Now she's walking in all the runway shows

at Fashion Week, getting covers. I think the world is starting to be more accepting of past and present sex workers, which is great because a lot of these girls, they're 18, 19 years old. They really don't know what they're doing and they're making a lifelong decision and they don't deserve to be punished for that for the rest of their life. No, I can see, I can see how you would fall into that at a young age. It makes sense, especially when you're 18 and $1,200 when you're 18. When I was 18, that was a lot of money. $100 was a lot. How hard is it to leave? Like hard is it to leave? Not just make the decision to leave, but to actually leave. Some of these girls are so young and I'm sure there's people making decisions

in that world that sometimes make it harder for these women to just kind of... It's not like just quitting a job. Someone wants to quit this office. Okay, bye. See you. But in that industry, how easy is it to leave if you want to? So you have like a, what's it called? It's not a manager.

It's an agent. And if you're like a popular girl, like I was, you have months and months booked up and you're like, I want to quit. They're like, you can't quit. We have this many shoots. You're like letting everyone down. So like they put a lot of pressure on you, but you have to be your own best advocate, which also is really hard for girls in that age range to say no. I feel like that's just a woman issue in general. a universal issue among women just not being taught how to be their best advocate

at a young age and say no. I heard somewhere, and I don't know if this is true, that you took the money that you've made from porn and you grew it and you invested properly. Is that true or is that not true? I really didn't have any money when I quit porn. I had less than $100,000. Maybe I heard after you did porn that you started really letting your money work for you. That's what's really interesting.

So you could be the number one at the top in that space and quit and still not be anywhere near what some of the people in the just entry-level positions of this field could be. That is so crazy to me. And we're talking like, I mean, how many views total do you think your work's brought in? I mean, billions. Like, I honestly think people should get paid per view. Like, like how Friends gets paid. Friends gets paid for reruns. Like why?

That's not fair. Someone needs to like advocate for this profession. Well, I think what's happened is, like you said, platforms like OnlyFans have kind of runs like why that's not fair someone needs to like advocate for this profession well i think what's happened is like you said platforms like only fans have kind of put some of the monetary incentive back in the hands of individuals power back into the girls which is i think excellent those websites own that with their subscriptions they make all the money continuously off of you the work that everyone else does yeah you were just paid a flat rate flat rate, right? That's true. Aren't you a subscriber? Yeah, Taylor, what are you doing?

Yeah, of course. I've dabbled in hundreds. You've dabbled. Yeah. Your mouse, his mouse and his mouse pads ruined because he's scrolled so much. But that is sad.

I've always thought about that, that it's the work you, everybody that makes the scenes, the guys and the girls, are there to the draw to everybody to paying for these sites, but then you only get, you get paid potatoes. Or is it beans? Well, I don't know. You get paid nothing compared to, to compared to

what the, whoever the owner of the websites are. Yeah. Only fans. Tell me about only fans, how girls can use it to their advantage in this day and age. Like what would you recommend? And how do you use it? So I don't useFans. So I really, truly have really no involvement in anything adult for like over half a decade now. However, I am part owner in Playboy's new platform called Centerfolds. It's a similar type thing. Just we don't allow like sex or penetration. You can show like nudity. It's very tasteful.

So I'm happy to be a part of that with Playboy and Centerfolds. I really can't give any advice on OnlyFans because I truly, I never really was, it was kind of like a joke on YouTube that I was like an OnlyFans girl for like the vlogs and stuff. But I don't like even post nudes or anything. You just think that if girls are thinking about potentially going down the porn path, you would steer them towards that path instead? Yeah, I think that's definitely a lot better, you know, in case they change their mind and also just being in charge of yourself and your own money and your body.

Michael was telling me that the Cash Me Outside girl made $56 million from OnlyFans last year. Is that correct? Yeah, so I was quitting the show and I'm going over there. What's wild to me is that if you were on OnlyFans, like the amount of money that you can make is crazy, but it's so cool that you're advocating for Centerfold. That's the Playboy. Yeah.

Is it an app? In the Apple App Store, they don't allow any type of nudity or adult content. OnlyFans used to have an app, but then it was like Apple was like, no way, Jose. This is for children. Like the App Store is for children, basically. So it's not an app. It's a website. Just like OnlyFans, you subscribe.

We've got Cardi B on there. We've got Amber Rose, Amanda Cerny, like tons of celebrities basically. That's cool. Yeah. And smaller creators. What are things in your business now that people wouldn't know about you? Because I think you're very multifaceted when it comes to business. What are some things that you do that people would be like surprised? I'm dabbling a lot in clothing this year. Playboy also owns a few companies that a lot of girls know like Honey Burdette, Yandy. So I've designed lingerie lines for Yandy. We have other stuff coming up this year. I'm also developing my own swimwear line. Might be doing something in like the world of keto when it comes to diet. So yeah, I do a lot. I love creating products,

whether it's clothing, lingerie, swimsuits, toys, food. For me, just being creative in any way is exciting for me and bringing new things into the world. And as a mother, what is your day-to-day, like your morning routine, your nighttime routine? Do you do anything super wellnessy? You obviously eat very clean. Yeah. Being a mom, my baby is probably the chillest baby in the world. He doesn't cry unless he's hungry. We're on a very loose schedule. I know some moms are like, oh, he needs a nap at this time. The only thing that we do at particular times is feeding, but he usually lets me know when he wants

to eat, which is like every three hours. So I'm just like, I let him do whatever he wants. We don't really have a schedule. He'll usually fall asleep at 9 PM. If he doesn't, that's fine. We'll watch a movie together. My baby's like an adult already. He's awesome. We're the same way. We don't really have a schedule. It's easier to just treat them kind of with an energy of an adult. I know what you're saying. Yeah. The baby is like it when you treat them like an adult and like respect them. That's one thing that I think too that I'm really passionate about is I feel in America and even other countries, children are almost treated like third class citizens. They don't get to make their own choices.

And so for me, it's really important. Besides my son's education, I want him to be extremely educated and set him up for being an adult. But other than that, he can make all of his own choices because I felt that I wouldn't have been in the situations that I was in as a child if our opinions were respected, if I was able to say, hey, I shouldn't have to be around my sister when she's acting like this, but no one respected that. It was just your child, you're doing this. And so for my son, I just want to treat him like he's already an adult and he can make all his own choices, even though he's only four months old. Besides education, like for me, if my son like does something bad, I'll be like, you can come out of your room after you learn the French alphabet. Like, I just care about him being set up for life as an adult. And that's it. Well, it sounds like in a lot of ways in your

childhood, you were treated like a child, but then put in positions where you had to be an adult. Yeah. Which is, that's no fun. No, no, that's no fun. I think that it's that also I saw something on your Instagram where you're like bringing him to restaurants where the same way it's like, yeah, if you don't, if you, in my opinion, if you create all of these parameters around it, like giving them choices and bringing them into your environment instead of adapting to their environment. Yeah. For me, listen, everyone's different. You got to do what works for you. But for me, that's what works best for us. Our attitude was like our child was coming into our life. Like we weren't going to create a whole new life around. I mean, we are obviously we were parents who create a new life, but meaning like she is going to come to dinners with us.

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Yeah. You got it. Build the immune system. Yeah, that's what I think too, building the immune system. And I know myself, I have type O positive blood. My son does as well. It supposedly has better. We have the same blood, all of us. Better built in immunity. So you don't get sick as often. Also don't quote me on this, but I have read articles that it makes it harder for you to catch the coronavirus. So I just personally wasn't really worried. I got the vaccines while I was pregnant to give him the antibodies and we're good. Well, you know what? The great thing about living in America is you can raise your kid how you want to raise your kid and anyone who's judging

about it. Everyone else can yell about it. Everyone else can yell about it. Yeah. What are some things that you do throughout the week for your business? Meaning, are you creating content on Tuesdays and shooting videos on Wednesdays? Are you doing conference calls on Thursdays? How do you structure your week? I work like a psycho. So I wake up at like 630.

I'm obsessed with organizing things like in keynotes. And so I have, I just hired a new assistant, but I'll wake up and I'll give her all her tasks for the day. And I put it in like a collaborator's keynote. Then I drive to a meeting. Then I have another meeting. I literally go from like 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. when I go to sleep. And I try to bring Milo, my baby, everywhere with me. He didn't get to come to this today just because I had a photo shoot right before. I couldn't get him ready in time to bring with.

That is crazy that you go that long and you're like doing your diet at the same time. It makes it easier. Oh, that makes sense because you're busy. Yeah, otherwise I'd be shoving my face with dates. You know what? I had three dates this morning and now I'm

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dates are full of magnesium and potassium but you are right like they do they do pack on these do because it shoots up your insulin levels because there's so much sugar they're so good there's please don't remind me you know what that's gonna be my treat once i finish losing all the weight there's this girl on instagram that she's like a vegan aussie blogger and Really the banana girl. Maybe it's her. She makes caramel out of dates like she takes the dates and like

like processes it and it tastes like caramel and she'll sprinkle the caramel over the fruit. It's so good. Sorry, I shouldn't be talking about this when you're on diet. Don't worry. I'll eat enough dates for most of us. Super, super intense diet. Favorite thing in the world is dates. I know what I'm talking about. Caramel dates.

Sorry. No, I remember this girl maybe like 10 years ago who was on Instagram and she was like on this fruit diet and all that she used to eat was like bananas and dates. And now like seeing how I couldn't lose weight while eating like fruits. I'm like, how is she so skinny? Because this girl's metabolism. Different metabolism probably. But you look really good. So I don't think you should be hard on yourself.

Oh, I mean, it's a work in progress and it's been hard work, but I'm getting there. I mean, four months after having a baby, it took me like a year and a half to lose my pregnancy weight. And then this motherfucker got me pregnant again. How do you think that feels? You literally work your ass off to get back in fighting shape and he comes around me and it's like, oh, here we go

again. That's what happened again because you started looking too good. There was a moment in time there when I wasn't stopping. No, you weren't leaving me alone. It was like it was annoying and now you don't have to do any of the heavy lifting. I have to do everything.

I didn't make the rules. He complained about his hair hurting the other day. It wasn't my hair. It was under my head. His hair hurt and then also the rain was making him feel like... I would run you over with my car if I was pregnant and you were complaining about that.

A girl did that to me one time. Really? That would be me. I'd drive over with my Bronco. I flipped over the windshield though. I survived. What's something that you want the world to know about you that they don't know? I wonder if that girl's going to listen to this and be like fuck. She's probably listening. Honestly

I do not. I've gotten to the point I think becoming a mother I don't care what the world thinks anymore. I used to think, oh, I made these mistakes doing porn or doing this or not completing my education. I need to prove myself. I don't care anymore. I'm extremely happy with myself. I know who I am and that's all that matters. There's nothing that anyone else needs to think about me. That is amazing. You have to tell her, because I'm going to flub it, what Ed Milet said about the person that helped his father. Well, he was just saying like, so his, I'm going to flub the story, but he was saying his father was an addict and eventually healed.

But he was saying that the person who healed him was also a very flawed person. Somebody who had like a lot of, you know, addiction in their own life, maybe had a lot of struggles. And no, he said he personally doesn't know who that person was, but it took a kind of a vulnerable, broken person who also had a ton of problems. You would never think would help someone be able to help his dad and that extrapolated into his dad helping him. And now Ed helps all these other people. So you never know, like, it doesn't matter, you know, what people think, like you could be any kind of person and inspire somebody or help somebody or whatever. How that story is relevant to what you're saying is like what's so cool about what you're doing is you're doing now this thing with playboy that's going to help all of these women because of your

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Just use code skinny phdfemininehealth.com slash win. I think a lot of men and women probably look to you as somebody like, they look at you and they're like, man, look at this life she had in the adult film industry. Look at what she's done in social. And they probably look at you as a source of inspiration. And maybe they think following a similar path is going to get them there. And I think you talking like this so openly is helping probably a lot of inspiration and maybe they think following a similar path is going to get them there and i think you talking like this so openly that's cool it's helping probably a lot of people maybe people we never even know right like they hear your story that's the only reason why i do it like i don't need to talk about something that you know i'm i'm ashamed that i did porn i don't i don't need to talk keep talking about it though but i do just because i

think it is important for girls just to hear that side you know so they can make an educated choice sure if I maybe had heard that prior I might not have listened because they say smart people learn from other people's mistakes fools learn from their own was very much a fool in most of my decisions but that is why I keep talking about it and why I'm open to sharing. Because if you can just help one person, it really does matter. Even with all the success that you've had, you're an incredible mother now, businesswoman, you're working with Playboy, you still look back on that and you still feel ashamed? Yeah, I don't like the fact that people

can see me naked on the internet or can see those things happening to me. I think that it's gross. That is crazy that you can build this whole life and you still feel ashamed. I mean, I'm proud of myself and what I've done and I wouldn't take anything back. However, it's not like I like the idea that people can view that of me. I personally, those videos make me want to throw up. Taylor is going to think differently after this episode. No, I don't think negatively at all.

No, I just think you're so excited. Now, listen, I think this episode is so important for so many people to hear because you're like really being so honest and vulnerable. And I also think, and maybe you could leave us with this. What would you tell the men that are consuming, like Taylor, the porn? What does that do? I mean, I've never been a man, so I can't relate. However, if you are going to consume porn, just like I'm really into like sustainability when it comes to like clothing and buying used clothes and supporting small businesses. Go to the OnlyFans girl. Go to the, you know,

the privately owned pages or businesses of specific girls that you like and pay for them instead of going on Pornhub and consuming that. At least do something that's helping pay for someone's college tuition, pay for their rent, paying for a single mom. Do that if you're going to consume porn. That is, that's a good tip, Taylor. I'm going to check your fucking history. You better, you better have taken that tip. This was enlightening.

Well, you know what? It's hard now. I mean, listen, I'm not going to lie and say I've never seen porn, but it's like when you hear it in this light. No, you're not going to lie and say you've never seen porn. Let's stop it. You know, I think it puts it in a, but it's like when you hear it in this light. No, you're not going to lie and say you've never seen porn. Let's stop. You know, I think it puts it in a light where it's like, okay, in my own relationship, what turns me on is if my wife is turned on, right?

Yeah. And so if now, if you're thinking, if I'm thinking like, oh, this person's like not happy, they don't really like this, they're not into it. It's like, it's a little bit of a boner killer, right? Yeah. So what you're saying is because she was honest about that, it's a boner killer. No, no. What I'm just saying is like, for me to be turned on, I have to be with somebody that's

turned on. Like it feels very creepy if they're not right. Make your own porn together. Yeah. Let's put it on OnlyFans. Wait, can we put, we can't put it on Centerfold. No, only nudity. If you ever want a Centerfold shoot, we'll shoot you like beautiful, classy nudes if

you want. I would love a beautiful classy nude. Or implied or implied i i personally like implied and i think that guys spend more money on girls who like make classy content what's implied it doesn't show nipples or like any of that i agree with you i like the the tease of it yeah like yeah 100 when girls are like nude and beautiful but it doesn't show anything derogatory and i those girls actually make the most money. Huh.

Maybe that's a new career choice. Does anyone want to see me doing Implied's Pregnant? I could do Implied's Pregnant. Lauren made me a book once. I have it. I did. I made you a... It's a sexy book.

I made him for our wedding. Don't give me ideas back there, Taylor. You're never seeing the book. I gave him a huge box and it said your masturbation kit oh and then on it it says it's over for you and it's just pictures of myself naked if i ever have a boyfriend i'm stealing that idea you gotta do a masturbation kit and it had like it had coconut oil woo lube in it and like all like you get this idea from that's genius i just felt like you know what we're getting married here's your masturbation kit for the rest of your fucking life rest your life yeah and here we are lauren's just

theatrical she always does things like that yeah i am theatrical listen she's very dramatic she's there's always something i never know what i'm gonna get it's just keeps it exciting you're my inspiration post pregnancy the nomad the keto and the and the carnivore yes girl any just text me if you need advice on anything yeah from ear one it has like 30 grams of fat in it and 30 grams of protein put olive oil all over it it's great for your brain the mct oil from bulletproof they have a really good one it's good for your brain for, I really balance out each macro and nutritional value so that I can eat the smallest amount of calories and get everything that I need within one meal and within a small amount of calories. So when you go back to, when you get to the weight you want to be,

and you go back to eating normal, how will you implement stuff into your diet without it like shocking your system? So maintenance is way easier than losing weight. I think for 120 pounds, which is what I want to be, I could have 1500 calories a day. Right now I'm eating. I don't even know if it's appropriate to say because I don't want to encourage other people to be as strict as I am right now. Maintenance is easy and I actually prefer to eat healthy and I will continue mostly keto after because I believe that it's been beneficial to my brain and my body. I mean, here's my thing with talking about this. People get mad if you don't tell the full story and then they get mad if you do tell the full story. And a great example of this is Kim Kardashian

just trying to fit into Marilyn Monroe's dress. Yeah. First of all, if someone told me that I could wear a Marilyn Monroe's dress. Do anything to get in there. Yeah. And by the way, look, no one gives anyone shit for a movie role. Like if Angelina Jolie has to lose weight for a movie role, no one's giving her shit. Yeah. So essentially that was like kind of like a movie role. For me personally, I'd rather hear the real truth about what people are really doing than hear like I breastfed and was chasing around a kid. Well, the thing is though, not everyone is going to eat 600 to 800 calories a day and get the right nutrition. So I can't be like, oh, it's fine to only eat 600 or 800 calories a day because

they're not going to make sure that they have the right nutrients in it. They're not going to make sure that they have the right macros of fat and protein. For me, I'm like very specific and I'm also very educated on it. So I don't want to say that it's okay to only eat that amount unless you know that your body is well enough for it and you've done the research to get the very specific nutrients that you need, because that is a very small amount of calories to eat a day. Like I always say on this podcast, we are not doctors. No one's a doctor. Go do your own research. Be your own guru. Be your own advocate. I've read a couple of medical books and now I'm going to start calling myself one. Okay. When I just put that out there. When we film our adult

film situation, you can be a doctor. I got some pretty shaky hands though. So I don't know if I can film that well. That's true. Okay. So where can we find your podcast that's coming out? Pimp yourself out. Tell us about the podcast. What can we expect from that? What's next for you? Tell us all the things. So my podcast is a reboot. It's called Three Girls, One Kitchen. I started it with my two best friends. It mainly started as dating advice. We took a year off because I abandoned everyone when I got pregnant. We're all coming back with more insight, me as a mother now, them with their experiences that they've had over the past year. It's going to

be posted on my YouTube channel like before. We're on Apple, Spotify, Three Girls, One Kitchen. Follow me with all the stuff that I do with Playboy, my clothing, anything. If you're not already following her because she has 16 million followers, so you're probably already following her. Yeah.

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