The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - How to Sculpt the Ultimate Butt, Burn Fat, and Build Your Dream Body ft. Sandy Brockman

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

#862: Join us as we sit down with Sandy Brockman – certified personal trainer & strength coach with over 20+ years of experience, best known for her expert approach in glute training. Based in the... C4 gym in Austin, Texas, Sandy has trained some of the most high-profile, elite women, in mastering the fundamentals of strength training with precision & purpose. In this episode, Sandy gets real about why glutes matter, reveals common misconceptions, breaks down the connection between hip mobility & muscle growth, effective corrective training techniques, & shares how to properly activate the correct muscles for powerful, lasting glute gains! Plus, Sandy shares tips from her signature Glute Growth Guide & insights from her E-Book, Built Not Bought.  To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To connect with Sandy Brockman click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode. Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194. For a limited time, get The Sandy Brockman Fitness App bundled with her Built Not Bought E-Book for $99 all together at https://bit.ly/TheSandyBrockmanFitnessApp. To learn more about her Built Not Bought E-Book and purchase it separately, visit https://bit.ly/BuiltNotBoughtE-Book. This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Your daily routine done better – with The Skinny Confidential Caffeinated Sunscreen. Subscribe today at https://shopskinnyconfidential.com/products/sunscreen and get it delivered right to your door – because great skin doesn’t take days off! This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Shop Branch Basics at https://branchbasics.com/SKINNY15 and use code SKINNY15 to get 15% off. Now available in 600+ Target stores nationwide, or http://Target.com.  This episode is sponsored by Addyi Learn more at http://addyi.com. This episode is sponsored by Cymbiotika Go to http://Cymbiotika.com/TSC today to get 20% off plus free shipping This episode is sponsored by Fay Nutrition Listeners of The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show can qualify to see a registered dietitian for as little as $0 by visiting http://FayNutrition.com/SKINNY. This episode is sponsored by Boulevard Right now, Boulevard is offering new customers 10% off your first year subscription when you go to http://JoinBLVD.com/skinny and book a demo. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth Upgrade your Summer. Go to http://cozyearth.com and use code SKINNY for 40% off best-selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more.  Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. You will never guess who is on the show today, the one, the only, the butt whisperer. That's right, Sandy Brockman. She is a dedicated coach and personal trainer with over 20 years of experience and she is based out of the C4 Energy Gym in Austin, Texas. I was introduced to Sandy Brockman through Ivanka. Ivanka Trump came on the podcast and raved about her as a trainer. And so I started incorporating Sandy in with Classical Pilates and P-Volve and my trainer Brent. And I noticed that my ass was getting nice and juicy thanks to her. I am so excited to not only work with her on a weekly basis, but to have her
Starting point is 00:01:06 on the show. She is as real as they come. She's a tell it like it is kind of woman. And in this episode, we're going to break down all of the myths about butt training, glute training. We're also going to share actionable science-backed strategies for building functional and aesthetic strength, especially when it comes to your butt. And she's going to inspire you. She's so, so cool and just knows how to connect with her body. I really like her as a person. She has an ebook called Built Not Bought, and she is giving us the real details on how to build a juicy butt. Sandy Brockman, welcome to the Him and Her Show. This is the skinny confidential Him and Her.
Starting point is 00:01:50 The ass whisperer is on the show today. What an introduction. She is changing lives and butts everywhere. Let me tell you. One butt at a time. This woman knows everything that there is to know about butts, glutes, ass, the shelf that I just learned about. I'm learning all different things about the butthole. Yeah. If you guys want to know how to sculpt your ass, listen up. Sandy, welcome to the show. Thank you. Okay, so just a little backstory. This is my legacy, by the way, but holes in shelves.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Funny enough, it's maybe my legacy as well. I know. I mean, at least it's fun. Listen, Michael's ass is going from a good ass to an exceptional ass working out. We're putting some mass on that ass. We're putting some mass on that ass. I was telling somebody the other day, Sandy, I was like, well, I'm, I'm training with Sandy. Yeah. She has me looking at male rugby players' asses. So like, if you look at my history, there's like, you like pulled up
Starting point is 00:02:52 like male rugby asses. That's exactly what I want. And it's a little bit awkward because I've never found myself, but I'm trying to understand what you're trying to build there. Yes. So my search history is very questionable. Well, this is very good. So can we talk about males and glutes first?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yep. Michael's going to pour you a shot of a straw of tequila. Okay. This is my new favorite. Do you want the Anejo or the Blanco? I don't know the difference. You're wasting that question on me. Explain it, Michael.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Well, this one's going to be... Which one's better? I want whatever the better one is. Listen, I would say that's a hard thing. You'll split the audience. I think it depends what you're doing. Some people really like the Blanco, some of them may not. I think for our purposes, we'll go with the happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I think that that just because it's a little bit of a flex to say you have like, it's really a flex actually never had a birthday wish on a tequila bottle for me. It's a bit of a flex, huh? Like to have like an engraved happy birthday straw bottle. I mean, how long ago was your birthday? March. Okay. Well, we should open it. your birthday? Uh, March. Okay. So.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Well, we should open it. Open it. This is insane. Okay. So Michael's going to pour. And then Lauren's going to sniff it. I'm going to sniff it. So sad.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So we were going to sniff the cap. So sad. While he's pouring the tequila. Okay. Just to give context, I obviously work out with Brent. He's my trainer. He's been on the show before. And I started specialty training with Sandy on top of Brent
Starting point is 00:04:07 and we're focused very much on the ass. I also am doing classical Pilates. So that's kind of my workout gamut for the week right now. And I figured that I would have Sandy on because not only is she so funny, she just knows everything about the butt and it's been so interesting to learn. Yeah. Well, do we want to take this shot before I start talking about the butt? Well's been so interesting to learn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Well, do we want to take this shot before I start talking about the butt? Well, I poured more of a sipping. We could shoot it. It'd be a big shot. OK, Sandy, this one's for you. Here you go, Emily. Emily, Carson. Emily, I'm going to give you Carson's.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Lauren, I would give you one, but you are... I know. It smells good. Here you go. You can walk in the shot. It's OK. We keep it pretty informal here. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:43 OK, toast. But I don't think it's a pretty big shot. I would just maybe sip it You want to shoot it? Where are you from? You don't know how to do shots. No, I do shots. It's a big shot. We're gonna do half a shot ready three two one. Okay to glutes You know what I'll probably just do the whole thing. Five pounds of mass on your ass. Okay. To be honest I ended up doing the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:05:03 That was a small, I only did half of one but we're fine. I did the whole thing. And I didn't make a big face. Okay. So you know I'm a man, Carson. Sandy. Oh God. There's so much to get into. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Let's start with, what is the number one thing you see across the board that people do not know about the ass? Well, I think it starts like, to peel it back like a few layers. It starts with people don't understand the importance of your glutes. I mean, I think that yeah, we think that they look good in tights. They are like aesthetically great. But what I think that people don't understand is how important they are for your back health, your center of gravity where that sits,
Starting point is 00:05:45 your knee health at all. There's so many things that stem from having weak glutes that people, I think, honestly, sometimes people don't think about them because they can't see them. So what you can't see, you know, the front muscles, everybody can see, so we can flex your bicep, it looks great. But like literally you can't see your butt. So I think half the time people forget about their glute muscles and then we sit
Starting point is 00:06:08 and then they turn off and then we have all these problems that stem around from having glute muscles that don't turn on anymore. Even if you have glutes that are looking okay, if you're not creating like, if you're not activating them and doing mind muscle connection with them, then you are going to lose them at some point,
Starting point is 00:06:27 and then you're gonna go to a PT or a chiropractor or a doctor and say, I hurt my back. You know what I'm saying? I said something on this show one time, but I couldn't articulate because I don't have the expertise that you do. And I was saying like, you likely don't, like the reason so many people have back pain
Starting point is 00:06:40 is likely because they don't have glute muscles. Yes. And I was, and people were like, oh no, I just have back pain. I mean, no, you probably, what you're just saying is happening. Well, the glute medius sits right here and it is very important for your back. And if it is weak, it is one of the things that, that I think that half the population goes to the doctor because they hurt their back and their glute medius is probably weak.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So what happens is in a fitness environment, they're sent to physical therapists, right? So a physical therapist, now you have a bad back and what a physical therapist does, they have to rehab and make your glute medius stronger, right? Because you have a bad back. So now it's, now it's on the physical therapy side. But the way that I see it done and the way that I train everybody is that we that we start to combine those physical therapy sort of treatments. I'm not a physical therapist at all and I do defer to them very often. But we do some of their methods of strengthening stuff through like correctives and I have
Starting point is 00:07:37 you do couch stretch and things like this and mind muscle connection with strength training. And those two things together will really make your glutes strong. And then now you have the center of your mass is your glutes. What's happening now is that you'll see a lot of people, they sit all day, their glutes turn off, their backs turn off, their glutes turn off. I sent something to you that said,
Starting point is 00:08:00 yeah, thank you, yeah. And we talked about that Lauren, instead don't shrug, but come down, right? And sit in your, sit in your posterior chain, which is your, which is your back and then your glutes. But what I was saying, I said, I thought this was funny, but if, can we say bad words on this show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Okay. You've met us before. Okay. So for glutes, okay. So if we're talking, why are glutes so important and what is inhibiting them so much? I was saying your hip flexors are like cock blocking your glutes. Okay. So if I'm sitting like this, these are hip flexors and they're not
Starting point is 00:08:32 anatomically correct and fitness community come for me, but I'm just saying this is for general population. There you have five hip flexors that run right here. We sit all day. These get tight and short. Once these get tight and short, guess what doesn't access anymore? Your glutes. When we sit like this all day, guess what gets tight and short?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Your upper chest and your neck. And for those that are listening, you can watch on YouTube to see what she's doing. So you start to look old. Well, yeah, your, your posterior chain is, it's your posterior chain is for go and your front is for the show. So you should be stronger in your posterior chain. When I say posterior chain, what I mean is basically glutes, hamstrings, lats, back.
Starting point is 00:09:14 That's what your, your back of your body is supposed to look the best and hold you up and be your strongest. And then the front is all just at the leisure of the posterior chain. What's happening in our society now is everyone's sitting, they're shortening, they're tightening here and your body loves you so much. This is what I love about the human body. And I think I've talked about this. It will say, God, Michael, I don't, that seems like a lot of work for you to activate those lats and those glutes.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So we're just going to start letting them go away. Yeah. I mean, you know, in my case, cause we trained together, like I have to actively work to go back like this and down, people listening and I'm putting my shoulders back, but then I was also, so for the reasons you're highlighting, but I was also reading this article the other day and it says people that side sleep, it even compounds the effect cause you're like on your side. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah. Just what, okay. And I'm taking this and I take a lot of different, that what you think is cool, Lauren is, and I take a lot of different approaches from different places. If you take from the PT world, they'll, first thing they'll ask you is how do you sit all day? What is your pattern constantly? Well, if it's side sleeping, that's how your body starts.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Your body starts to mold into the pattern that you're sitting or sleeping in. Your body starts, it loves you. So it's like, it seems like she wants to do this and shut off her bigger muscles. So let's, you know what I mean? It's trying to, it's trying to save energy for your brain. Why, you know, so it'll let you go into like these compensatory, compensatory positions just so that it doesn't take more energy away. So what we have to do is say, no, sir and no ma'am.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We are going to be living with our glutes on and our back on. And we thank you for trying to let us do all these things, but through mobility and strength training, we're gonna stand like we're supposed to as humans and sit. There's so many things to get into with you, but one thing that you've told me that's so interesting is you said that dancers and strippers
Starting point is 00:11:06 and girls that know how to twerk have amazing assets. And I want you to explain your theory to TikTok and the internet and the podcast. Yes, thank you. We have a big stripper community that listens to this show. I love, hey, I'm down. We're taking pole classes after. Don't worry, I won't take them pregnant, guys.
Starting point is 00:11:24 We're taking pole classes. We really are, I would won't take them pregnant, guys. We're taking pole classes. We really are. I would love to. Okay, this is the thing with hips. Okay, so again, when I was trying to figure out how to grow my glutes, I was a hard grower of my glutes. I did all the right things. I've been a strength push for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I knew what I was doing. I just needed some push, and it was a physical therapist that gave me that push to say, Sandy, your body's 3D and what's happening on the front of your body is, is, is affecting the back of your body. And what's happening on the back of your body is effect. And I was like, Whoa, and that was mind blowing to me. And a strength coach never told me that it took a physical therapist to tell me that. Right. So that, and then that my that my light bulb went off and I was like,
Starting point is 00:12:09 and I did a check in with my hips and I was like, these are these hips are like, I can barely swivel them around like a stripper. I can barely move them up and down. I have no rotation. I'm tight. This can't be right. So then when I started to come, I started to watch twerking videos, I started to watch stripper videos,
Starting point is 00:12:31 salsa girls, girls that know how to salsa, everyone wonders why Latinas have such a good ass. One of the reasons is because their hips are open, their hips are on a swivel. If you watch girls that can twerk, what they have is a lot of access into their lumbar spine and the ability to move it very fluidly, right? And so their ability to sort of like move their back, everything else stays still and
Starting point is 00:12:54 then their ass pops up and down. So what I researched was all these different ways that these girls had good asses without even trying without strength training. Show me how you have a good house without strength training. And that's like was the and then we had strength training on top of that. Now we're in business. So that's what I did. I researched. I looked at what I what I try to express is that, yes, I want everyone to have big glutes, but I want them to be athletic. And that's where the rugby that you said came in, where we
Starting point is 00:13:23 I was had you looking because what I want is women and men, if you look at a dancer's ass, it's very athletic because she has to use all the muscles in her ass to control her hip bones. Your glutes are attached to your hip bones, right? So once those get, once your hips get moving and around through correctives, mobility, activations, dance class, I love a dance class, just for that reason, dance class. I love a dance class.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Just for that reason, your glutes start to come back on. Outside of, you know, doing the things we know are bad for us like sitting for long periods of time, not being active, what are people doing wrong in the gym when it comes to building the lower body? Yeah, that's a really good question. So it depends on, well, okay, I'm gonna cover it for women because I feel like they're very underserved, but it will also cover most men. So it depends on, well, okay, I'm gonna cover it for women
Starting point is 00:14:06 because I feel like they're very underserved, but it will also cover most men. So what's happening, and then we were talking about this, is something I'm calling the quad conspiracy. And I'm very serious about it because I'm a strength coach for 20 years. It's usually me and about 10 dudes standing around, right? Like my whole life, it's always been me and like 10 dudes standing around. And I love my whole life, it's always been me and like 10 dudes standing around.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And I love my male trainers. There's nothing about male trainers. But if you go back and you look in history, most of the strength coaches are based out of the bodybuilding world. You know, some of them, like you've got the power lifters, like all that stuff. Yeah, they are into the strength. But most of them aesthetically, if you come to a personal trainer and you want to look different aesthetically, a lot of the trainers, males have the bigger quads,
Starting point is 00:14:48 smaller glutes, big upper body, and then like a quad sweep, right? That's a good, that's a bodybuilding competitor. And for males, that makes a lot of sense. They need to be big on their upper body. They want to have good quads, you know, it's like, and they have good backs, but their glutes are usually smallish. So what happens is, or is when women come to me and they have, I want to grow my glutes, what I see the first thing I watch is 10 air squats. I can tell what everybody's been doing through 10 air squats. Every, everybody that comes to me has to do 10 air squats.
Starting point is 00:15:21 As soon as I see them first time or 20th time. It doesn't matter, but I need to know. I'll know exactly where you've been, how you've done it. I can tell. But the first thing I'll see is a lot of people using their quads to descend on something like a squat. When you descend and ascend with your quads, they're obviously going to get stronger. Is that right or wrong? Is it better to be glute dominant or is it better to be quad dominant? I'm going to argue that it's better to be glute dominant every time.
Starting point is 00:15:49 They say that quads are maybe bigger than your glutes or the science says that. I don't say that. I want my glutes to be bigger than my quads, right? That doesn't mean like my quads are going to be smaller or anything. It just means that over time, people have been doing this quad dominant patterning. So most people have bigger glutes than quads. Bigger quads than glutes. Sorry. Yeah. And one of the reasons in the gym, like one of the reasons, because I was talking about mobility and stuff, but another reason is when they go into strength train, sometimes the
Starting point is 00:16:19 person that's looking at them doesn't know what they're looking at. They're not, they're training a muscle and making it bigger over and over and over when the client, especially women, wanted bigger glutes not bigger quads. But they're saying, I'm working out this doesn't make any sense this guy's and this girl or whoever it is is so they know what they're doing. But if you keep using a muscle over and over and over it will get bigger. So what the way that I coach is to get your hips open, to understand your feet. That's a whole nother story for people who understand about feet, but get your hips open and then start using your hips to lower and raise in all your movements in lower body, and that's glute dominant patterning is what I call it.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And all it means is now that's your primary mover and you stop turning on your quad every time you go down and you go up. And with me when you had me working out with you whenever you do you have me doing mobility almost not half I would say like a third of the time I'm stretching my hips. Yes absolutely. This badunka dunk right now is a big ass. Oh my gosh. I am so excited about that. Yeah. Well, we're preparing. Oh my god. Poor, poor Laura. I always like in the mirror act like I'm cutting off your stomach and like
Starting point is 00:17:36 look at the ass. She's like, wait till you're not pregnant. Look at your ass. Not that I want any hurting. Yeah, but I was telling her that it's probably good that she's been training like this while she's pregnant because when she gets, when she's done, she's going to have like a really strong foundation. Absolutely, absolutely. And that was a really good question Lauren. Like why, why, why would I, and now, cause a lot of trainers that get you in raw, raw, let's go,
Starting point is 00:17:59 you know, this, go to this and go to that and go to this and go to that. And a lot of people are just moving through the movements, but they're not attaining their goals, right? So for someone like you, I've got to pull you back five steps, right? And say, everything now is about your patterning and mind muscle connection.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So if you want to be a glute dominant athlete, what I'm going to have to do is start to mobilize the areas that are tight. And you're going to have to do is start to mobilize the areas that are tight and you're going to have to start connecting and loading and understanding where your glutes are as opposed to your quad. And then once we have that talk, you too, Michael, once we have that talk, then a lot of it is now up to you in the workouts.
Starting point is 00:18:41 When I say to you, Lauren, are you using your quad or your glute? No one ever asked you that question before, right? No. It's an interesting question. in the workouts. When I say to you, Lauren, are you using your quad or your glute? No one ever asked you that question before, right? No. It's an interesting question. It's an interesting question. Yes. And so now you have to look, think in your brain and go, oh God, shit, now I gotta think about, am I?
Starting point is 00:18:55 And now you're making a mind muscle connection. You also will be like, the way she preps me is she'll be like, okay, butthole. Oh yeah, butthole. Flashlight, pretend like your butthole is a flashlight to the ceiling. Yes. So when I go down, I'm pretending like.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Should I demonstrate? Yeah, you can demonstrate. Everyone should go watch. Hold on, she's gonna demonstrate. Go watch the YouTube. My feet are in this picture, are they? That's okay, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Just show us, she's gonna show us butthole to the ceiling. All right, this is a very visual episode, I believe. Carson, don't do it. It really is. I hope, okay. Carson, keep your eyes on the eye level, Carson. Okay, this is so important, Lauren. So very good question. So now I've got you opening your hips on a swivel, accessing couch stretch.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Couch stretch is the gateway to having good glutes, because remember your hip flexors are cock blocking your glutes. So the next thing you have to understand is why do you do all these hinges and these RDLs, all these girls are doing a million RDLs. I know y'all are, where's that camera? Oh my God, y'all are doing a million RDLs and you're doing basically doing hamstring stretches. That's all you're doing is you keep stretching
Starting point is 00:19:58 your hamstring over and over. An RDL is a Romanian deadlift. Why would a Romanian wanna do this, right? They don't need stretched hamstrings so much as they need strong glutes and hamstrings. So what I teach is a way where your butthole matters. So everyone think about where your butthole is. Like, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Like y'all are doing that toilet paper, right? Like think about where your butthole is. Like, I don't know how else to say it. I try to say booty button, but that was so dumb. I might need another shot of tequila here soon. I know. I'm still drinking mine. I'm so sorry. But y'all will appreciate this. So a lot of times and you'll hear men, cause I watch, I very old school, I watch very old school strength trainers, right? Very old school. Like I'm basically like a 65 year old man
Starting point is 00:20:41 with a cigarette, but like with hair extensions and shit now. It's very strange. So if you watch old ones, they want most of the tension in your glutes and not to go in your hamstrings. So let me show you what that looks like. Okay, so if your butthole sits right here, okay, you have to think about not just an RDL, let's say I have two dumbbells.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So if I am, let's say I'm doing- You've never had someone in the studio put their butthole in the air, live during the show, but there's a first for everything. All right, you see where the, y'all can't see, but there's a black ceiling that meets a white tile. Don't give away our studio here. I can marry two.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So go on, you have to watch this on YouTube, you guys. Okay, go. So now I'm gonna try to put my butthole on the ceiling. Okay, so it looks like this. Now, when you start, this is called the hinge and the hinge is how everything starts with my workouts. Everything starts in a hinge. So a hinge is like a door.
Starting point is 00:21:31 A door is shut in the hinge and now your hips are open. So you're gonna think about putting your butthole on the ceiling. So you have to go hinge back, back, back. Now what I'm trying to do is like, if there was a flashlight on my ass, it would be pointing up to the ceiling. My legs are straight as they can be.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They're not blocked, but they're pretty straight. And then I'm going to pull my glutes back in and squeeze. So what you want to do is think about instead of just going down and up, this is what girls are doing right now. I see y'all. Oh yeah, it's great. I know y'all are. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I'm doing RDLs. Uh huh. And you're in the corner. I see what's going on. And then, and I'll- Made for a mic. Ten reps with me. Y'all already know this. Ten reps with me is a thousand bad reps with someone else.
Starting point is 00:22:14 What you're saying is that when you're, I guess, squatting down, you want to make sure that you're shining your butt to the ceiling as opposed to just stretching the hamstrings. Okay, let me go back really fast. There's something, and if this is too technical, let me know. It's a good exercise to practice for the bedroom,
Starting point is 00:22:31 as well, boy. But ladies who wanna grow their ass, no more with all this garbage that I see on Instagram. Like what? Then, oh, I don't know, the million hip thrusters, 400 pound hip thrusters when girls can't even get their hips into extension. Hey, actually, question, do you so, I mean, I as well go to the gym sometimes. Yes, I know you do. And I see these women, they're doing the hip thrust.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yes, so heavy. Why are they so into the heavy hip thrust? Okay, so this is great. This has to do with the quad conspiracy. Okay, so what they say to girls is, oh, you're going to have to just do hip thrusters because it isolates the glutes. It's a good, I love- Hip thrusters are nice, but I just- I'm also not anti-hip thruster. To the world, I'm not anti-hip thruster.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Brett Contreras, come for me. But I'm not, I love hip thrusters. But what the premise is, is if we take your legs out of the exercise and I just solely load your glutes, that seems like a good idea. Because then I'm not growing their legs, I'm simply growing their glutes. And does that make sense? Yes. Absolutely. It seems like a great idea.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Two things happen with that. One is when girls start to go that heavy, they're usually not going into full extension. What a hip thruster is meant to do is squeeze at the top. That's the big lift part is the contraction. You know when you squeeze your butt at the top? Yeah, but you're shortening your hips, right? Well, no, I mean, most of the time I see people on Instagram that are not even have mobility to have any business. They can't even get their hips through.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Got it. So now they're just working like a bunch of little muscles. So they never even got their hips through and to the top so they could squeeze their glutes. But they went really heavy and it looked cool on Instagram. Right. So. What do they think the hip thrusts are doing for them? So they think that girls love the burn and hip thrusts feed the burn. What the hell's the burn? Like when you just feel like your workout burning? You know like when they like, yeah like when.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah the burn. The workout burn. Sit here for like 10 seconds and squeeze your ass as hard as you can. Squeeze it. And like until it hurts. That's the burn. Wow. Which is also needed by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:32 We definitely, can you feel it? Now squeeze one butt cheek like 10 times. I can squeeze for a long time before I feel that burn. Squeeze the other butt cheek like 10 times. Okay. The burn is that part where like you kind of like, it's like burning, you know? Yeah. Like, okay, if you can get get to the end of your rapture.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But so women chase the burn. We're taught that the, and it makes sense. If you don't understand about how to grow muscle and stuff, the burn would seem like, well, this is logical.
Starting point is 00:24:55 This is growing my glutes. I felt it. You know what, Lauren? You've been chasing the burn, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah. Because like the way that I train. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Wait, and don't get me wrong. The burn has a duty. It's just not the main one. Yeah. Yeah. Because like the way that I train. Wait, and don't get me wrong, the burn has a duty. It's just not the main one. Yeah, but like, you know, it's funny because like, you know, we have this debate with her all the time, you know, about like over training. Yes. Chasing the burn probably too much. Yes. Or chasing the, chasing something.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Chasing, chasing something. You need to check it off the list. Chasing a to-do list. A to-do list. Absolutely. And not under, and being an over-cheaper. Type A, trying to optimize every list. Absolutely. And not under, and being an over-tuber. Type A, trying to optimize every cycle.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Absolutely, absolutely. And hearing that you're supposed to be working out and being a good noodle, like you are, and making sure you're doing that. Doing the check. But yes, but overtraining is a real thing. And I have a lot of check-ins with my clients about overtraining. Well, because you attract, I think, a lot of type A people who want to optimize their life, high-performing people.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I found out about you through Ivanka. Yes, yes. You also train Jessica Rogan. Yes, amazing. Who's looking amazing on your Instagram. Thank you. And you train people who want to be the best. They're both of me.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I do, and I train people. By the time people have gotten to me, no matter who it is, they are ready to really figure this shit out. They don't need another random workout. They don't need another trying to figure it out with somebody else. By the time they get to me, we're doing the deal.
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Starting point is 00:31:29 And if you were to tell Emily and everyone who's listening, yes, that's a woman, especially three exercises that can really put the work into the glutes, into the glutes. What are those three exercises? Well, the first one's not an exercise. It's a corrective. Okay. So I call it a corrective that comes from the physical therapy world as well. And what that does is it's trying to correct something
Starting point is 00:31:50 before you use it. So the first thing I would say is couch stretch. So Emily's gonna go into couch stretch. She's gonna go in a minute aside, every day, no breaks. And for those that don't know what that is, explain what that is. Okay, I'll just show you. I think that we should do a TikTok on it.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You guys can go to TikTok. Yeah, yeah. And if not, just Google couch stretch. It's everywhere. It's not something... Couch. Yeah, C-O-U-C-H. And why they named it couch stretch was because you're supposed to do it so often because you're supposed to reverse the damages of sitting that you're supposed to be able to be...
Starting point is 00:32:20 It's about the level of your couch and they want you to do it at home. By the way, tangent, but on this note, when I first started training with Brent, who you know, and you've been on his show and one of the things he did with me was he's like, get into couch stretch. And I, it's been years. I couldn't even get back and like sit up. I was so messed up from years of sitting now I can do it. And I do it with him all the time, but I didn't, I don't think people realize
Starting point is 00:32:43 like people should just try it at home right now and see how many people can't do it with you and him all the time. But I don't think people realize, people should just try it at home right now and see how many people can't do it. And the first thing you'll say to me is when they do get into couch stretch, Emily will say something, she says, I feel it in my quad. Am I supposed to stretch my quad? And trust me, when I used to do CrossFit a long time ago,
Starting point is 00:32:59 they used to put us in couch stretch. These coaches were trying to make us stronger by having us access our glutes. I kept getting annoyed saying, why do they keep wanting me to stretch my quads? So I've been where y'all are, but you got to do it every day. That's why it's important. It really is like the gateway to your glutes. So your first thing is not an exercise. It's a corrective. We bought the machine at the house.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yes. Cracked his head open on it. Lauren bought a janky one. He cracked his head open with stitches. I wanted it in white. Oh God. I know I told you not to do that. I know you did. That tequila shot made me red so I'm afraid. But then we got the other one, but it's not super expensive and you can do it every day. No, it's, I love, one day I'll have my own, but I love a unilateral squat stand. That's what it's called on the Google is unilateral squat stand and it's made and it's about the perfect height You can have it at your house have it in your living room get your kids used to doing couch stretch We can link it
Starting point is 00:33:51 I mean we sit so much including them on their phones all day You have to start reversing that damage and couch stretch is a great way to do it So like I said just Google that so that would be the first thing and then when you're in couch stretch This is a thing that I have people do is I start to have you squeeze your butt cheek on and off like a light. It's harder than it sounds. It's hard. He does this all the time when I'm working out.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And so I like people to think about it like frayed wires. So when you start to lose connections, like when a wire starts to fray and the connection's losing, right? And so my best way to demonstrate that is to put your hip in extension and say, squeeze, because that's really hard. Well, to be honest, when I first started working out with you and you told me to do that, I was shocked that I had lost that connection.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I know, right? The reason I want people to try this at home, now that we do it so consistently trying to correct, and now I love it and I crave it and if I don't do it- Yeah, you start craving it. Yeah, it's weird. But I was so shocked when you first had me do it that I didn't have that connection. And then it was like a real light bulb.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I was like, oh shit, my body actually lost the mental connection to be able to do it. Yes, and that's just for your glutes. I could find other muscle parts too that we can, you know. Let's start, let's just start with this. One day I'm gonna take another muscle part. By the way, just side note when you get to the second one, if guys grow their glutes, it ups their testosterone,
Starting point is 00:35:07 which makes their penis harder. I cannot, y'all, okay, let's talk about- So if you guys are looking for a harder penis, let's talk about- Let's grow those glutes, bitches. Glutes and sex if you want to, and then I swear, Emily, we'll get back to the other two. Okay, if guys have bigger glutes, and what does that,
Starting point is 00:35:23 it means you have stronger hips. Fuck yeah, let's go. Let's go. Pull that clip. Yeah, like let's, now we're working with something. Now I've got testosterone. Get some thrust going. I've got power.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I've got real power. You know what I mean? So let's, and they're mobile. Fuck, we're done. And then let's talk about girls. I need to get on the mic. Other way, if girls get glue, like muscles on their butts that are attached to their hips, and their hips can swivel. Well, I'm saving marriages. And that's a true story.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Because we're gonna get into that. I'm doing the Lord's work. Who needs a marriage therapist? You just go train with Sandy. That's maybe why no one wants to put me, like talk about me, I'm a secret. So go on with your number two, what's number two? Okay, wait a minute, but wait,
Starting point is 00:36:15 let me just revisit this really fast. So once the power of opening your hips and getting muscle on your glutes is Like literally it is life-changing and I I'm not here like I love strength training. I can coach anything I strength train I can do I can do everything from Olympic lifting to To power lifting. I've done it all CrossFit in between strength training. I Think that the glutes are great gateway to start teaching people strength training basics and it's really important and it helps your sex life. Okay and I'm not kidding about that and it's like verified. It's verified and I it's so much fun. I mean just
Starting point is 00:36:58 it's like have a good time. It's kind of fun once you get muscles on your butt but anyway. So Emily would start with couch stretch with glute activation. So you would sit in couch stretch and you would squeeze your glute on and off. And then the second thing you would do is a hinge. I showed you the hinge. And so what happens with people, there's two things that are going on. Your hips are tight in the front,
Starting point is 00:37:17 but then also you've lost the ability to push your butthole up. A lot of people are restricted and kind of squeezing their butt together and their tailbone is sort of tucked under. We talk about that pulling your sitz bones out, making sure you're sitting on your sitz bones and pulling the flesh out from underneath you. A lot of people get also stuck like this.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So now we're stuck with a tight butt, tight hips, like awful. So the ability to stick your ass way back and up, it's like now you got to practice that as well. Okay. So we get the front and we get the back and then the second thing I would do is just a back squat and I would put you on a barbell back squat. So a lot of times they'll say in the Instagram and stuff, well, squats not the best way to grow glutes. You know, they'll say, oh hip thrusters and we did the test in it, we had the activators on there and I'll tell you that. The best way and the fastest way to grow your glutes
Starting point is 00:38:09 is to get underneath a barbell. And I'm a big proponent of barbell and you know that. Why is it faster to grow your glutes under barbell? Because if you think where a barbell sits on your back, it loads directly over your glutes. Think about where the weight distribution is. Okay, that's super helpful for growing your glutes and you're stuck in that position.
Starting point is 00:38:28 So I would make you perfect your barbell back squat and it would have to be exactly the way I want it. And then you would do couch stretch and then you would do your hinge. And that's all we do. We do that. Because if you did like a dumbbell front squat, you're putting it more in the glutes, right?
Starting point is 00:38:40 What you're doing- The quads, I'm sorry, the quads. I always get them confused. Yeah, so always think where the weight, yeah, you meant the quads. Just always think where the weight is distributed. That quads, I'm sorry. The quads. I always get them confused. Yeah. You meant the quads. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Just always think where the weight is distributed. That is where, unless you're actively forcing against that, you're always going to load, you always want to, the way I was coached was you always want to load closest to your spine, right? So like everything's close to your spine. So a barbell back squat, a beautiful barbell back squat done correctly, the girl will have the best glutes in the world. Like that's a glute dominant barbell back squat. The way I teach it is I can get her there literally months faster than if I just stick her with dumbbells
Starting point is 00:39:15 and kettlebells all the time. So let's say someone comes to you with no ass. Okay. What's the plan? Same thing. What I just told her, we're going to do couch stretch. We're're gonna do hinge. We're gonna do, and we're gonna, well, you're not going anywhere until you perfect that barbell back squat. Cause I don't wanna hear about, well, I saw this on Instagram or whatever. You have to learn the fundamentals
Starting point is 00:39:37 of using your lower body before we're gonna move on. That's what, you know what I mean? And you're gonna learn how to hinge and you're gonna learn how to drop with your glute and not your quad. And you're going to, and that is gonna be the centerpiece and the diamond of our glute training,
Starting point is 00:39:52 is that barbell back squat. What is the little hole between? Exactly. What's the hole? That's what I'm saying. There is a hole that Sandy has. Don't run to her Instagram guys Like it's like your butt is so lifted that there's like a hole. Oh like underneath my there's a thigh gap
Starting point is 00:40:12 It's a thigh gap, but there's it's like a heart. Yeah underneath your vagina This is this is like I swear to God I'm gonna Well I look at your butt in your leggings when you're training with me. No, I have my butt out all the time. It's my job. That whole, the thigh gap. If I'm 52 years old, my whole life depends on my butt. I'm risking it all. Lifting your ass?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Imagine. Well, absolutely. So girls come to me all the time and they say, how do I lose this little fat underneath my leg? Yeah. And I say, you raise your ass and it pulls it up. Got it. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Stop trying to lose that little rim of fat and let's grow your muscle up and it'll pull the rest of your body up. You know, when you see that's what you're seeing, you're seeing, I lifted what I do with y'all and with all my, all my thing is I want to grow your glute medius. The shelf on the top is very important to me and we focus on it a lot as well as the glute max, which are your two, there's three muscle groups in your glutes, but these are the two that I really focus on. And so as my, what you're seeing is my glute medius
Starting point is 00:41:10 at the top of my butt has gotten more developed. And as it's gotten more developed, it's pulling up and it's giving that heart illusion that you like. So it's lifting your butt. It's literally lifting. So now my butt sits where my hips are instead of down. So when you see girls coming to you who are maybe on a GLP-1 or they've lost a lot of weight or all they care about is losing fat.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. And that's all they care about is losing fat. How do you coach them to help them understand that lifting your butt doesn't really have to do with losing fat? Yeah. Well, it's a whole paradigm shift. And I think that it's good that strength training is in the app. Everyone's even, you're talking about it. Everyone's talking about it. It's in the realm.
Starting point is 00:41:55 What women have got to understand is if you want to grow your glutes and you want to have a feminine aesthetic, you're going to have to stop with the wanting to be so skinny. I don't, this isn't about men or if you're dating or whatever, but maybe it is. I've got news for you. I've worked with men in weight rooms for 20 years. They do not want skinny.
Starting point is 00:42:16 They're not looking for skinny. They like bubba-vum. They want body, yaddy, yaddy. Body, yaddy, yaddy. Jessica Rabbit. Has a little bit of fat, a little bit of juice, a little bit of loose. No guy in his right mind ever cares.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I don't want to speak for every man, but I do think that, you know, you anatomically men are looking for, you know, they're looking for the curvature of a woman. Yes. Right. And they, I don't know, that's a little the curvature of a woman. Yes. Right? Yes. I don't know. I guess that's as far as I'll say it before I get into some real shit. The thing, and what you're trying to say is, I mean, there's naturally skinny women, right?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Obviously, and like, if you have narrow hips and like this, this is also applicable to you, but it's a healthy thing. So what you're saying is if someone comes to you and they're so focused on fat loss, how do you help them change their... Well, if they genuinely need fat loss, then we have that discussion. That might be a thing. Okay. So if they genuinely need a fat loss, that could look like mixing strength training with,
Starting point is 00:43:20 yeah, you might have to do a few other things, you know, including like really hone in on your diet. But if they're, if they're trying, like if, if they're doing the OZ, if they've lost a lot of weight and they're chasing the skinny, I have got to have a big, and they know I have big sit down talks with my clients all the time. This is not sustainable. You've got to get out of this torture. You're torturing yourself with the not eating and the calories and the... You've gone back into an eating disorder. I hate to say it.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I've had an eating disorder. We all have. Every woman has at 15. And now you're tracking your food and you want me to make you track your food. I've had clients that want me to track and I won't do it because it puts them back in that eating disorder mode that a lot of women live in and so what I see is a dysfunction when I see that and I don't want it to sound mean but when women are trying to be too thin I see something that's dysfunctional that they're trying to work through with their child and what I want them to do is be
Starting point is 00:44:21 Feel good have somebody we're not talking about being overweight. We're not talking about being overweight. We're not talking about like having excess fat. We're talking about don't worry about, you know, if you're, if you can get in zero genes and you know, like it's more about health and feeling good and your, are your hips moving and you know, it's a paradigm shift. Are you eating 80% of the time good and 20% of the time you're fucking off and taking tequila shots. Do it. I want y'all to have fun. Are you eating 80% of the time good and 20% of the time you're fucking off and taking
Starting point is 00:44:45 tequila shots? Do it. I want y'all to have fun. Life is once and these women, I feel so worried about them that are losing all this muscle. From Ozempic. God, y'all. And even if it's not Ozempic, whatever it is, y'all are losing muscle. You do not understand.
Starting point is 00:45:02 All I do is freak out about losing muscle. Like if I'm losing my muscle, I'm freaked out. You've got, you've got, you're going to break. There's something that's going to break down. I've seen it happen a million times and you're going to be injured. And now guess what? You're going to be injured and you're going to gain weight injured. Well, like if I was going to gain weight extra double time fast,
Starting point is 00:45:19 cause you had no muscle. If I was going to comment not on men or women, but just on muscle in general, I think when you're young, you're able to sustain muscle for long periods of time without doing much. So you're like, Oh, I'm in shape. But as soon as you get like 30, 35, 40, it's drastically dropping off, especially if you don't take care of it. And then what happens is you get that look where it's like that deflated kind of skin look, men and women, Yeah, no, a hundred percent. Because they don't have the muscle. And then the difficulty is it's hard to build the muscle once you're beyond your, your youthful years.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And so then you have this uphill. So like what I tell everybody is like, if you, the earlier you can train and the earlier you can pack on muscle and the longer you can sustain it by consistently training, the longer, one, you're going to age better too. You're not going to have such an uphill battle and three, you're going to not have that kind of like saggy skin. Yeah, no, a hundred percent. I mean, muscle is filler. Muscle is filler. If women are getting or people get filler in their face or whatever, muscle is, muscle fills out your skin and makes
Starting point is 00:46:13 you look good. It structurally makes you look really good. It's tricky though, because I tell my, I have two younger sisters and then like, and when they're, when you're young, you're like, oh, like this is just, I'm like naturally this way. I don't realize that like the cliff kind of comes. Yes. And sometimes the, the, the people that do the best, including myself are the ones that weren't, didn't have a perfect body and had to work out. So we had to figure it out young. I do feel bad for the people who had it really good genetically most of their life. And then they hit 30 and they're like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And they never learned how to work out. That's scary too. So- I like the way that you have helped me also eat. It's really, really easy. Yes. Oh yes. And I wanna tell the audience that it's, your method is just simple.
Starting point is 00:46:59 So tell everyone your method. Okay, so my simple, my method is the same method as weight watchers used to use years ago. It's the same method that bodybuilders use to stay lean and gain muscle. It's the method that I have used for literally like 30 years now. And it is five meals a day,
Starting point is 00:47:18 trying to get like 20 to 25 grams of protein or whatever your protein number is, because you should get one gram of protein per body weight. So if I weigh 150, I have to get 150 grams of protein a day and I break those protein up into five meals. And what does that do? Like I know there's all this science. There's always a new study, this study and that study and that study. Let me tell you something. This is the Sandy study. Like we're on the Sandy's. The Sandy's study says that you should be consistently loading your protein in small amounts during the day over time. Dumping a bunch of food in your gut, like at one meal a day, you know what I mean, is not great for your body.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You know, your body has to do a lot of work. The reason that protein is so important is because your body hates to break down protein. It's a pain in its ass. You know what I mean? Just like to turn your glutes on in your back. It's a pain in the ass. So your body like literally like has to work through the protein. That's why it's also so good and it slows down your blood sugar and all that bullshit. Which is a lot like ozempic. Yeah. Eating five small meals a day with 20-25 grams of protein is ozempic. It's the same.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So can you talk through one day of your eating? Yes, one day of my eating. But Michael, really fast for males, there are some studies that I have seen that I do kind of agree with and it goes back to cavemen and biology, that men can eat one or two meals a day and have more protein loads. That's a whole other thing. I personally believe that, you personally. Believe that most women that do intermittent fasting are harming themselves long-term. That's a very controversial thing because I'm not a woman. I don't believe in intermittent fasting.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I think it's, for some women that are hyperactive and have a ton of muscle and are able to digest that way, like maybe, but I think the majority of women, if aggressive intermittent fasting can do a lot of harm for men, I think very different. I think so. I think men can wait longer and then have a huge meal. I agree. But a hundred percent. I think that women are so very hormones are such an important deal.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I mean, in men too, but in women, And if you start to fast and fuck with that hormones, that's what it does. It messes with your cortisol and your body thinks you're in a fast. And it's also another way to control your food. I don't want people controlling their food. Because guess what happens when they control their food? They get another eating disorder. And if they focus too much on their food and they don't just let it be normal and they fast and they don't just let it be normal, and they fast, and they unfast, then over time, they're just, it's not sustainable. You know what I'm saying? But for me, okay, but I work, so remember, I have to be on my feet, and I cannot have food. The disclaimer is, I would rather y'all eat food than do what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:49:59 But you can translate into food. Okay, so like I said, I weigh 150 pounds. The first thing I do on my way to work in the morning is I have four hard-boiled eggs in my car from a bag that I buy at H-E-B. They're gross and they're slimy and they're disgusting. And I eat a banana, because I love a banana. And I think the banana is great.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Don't give up on fruit too. Like a lot of people give up, it has all these great minerals and vitamins and wonderful things for your body. And they owe the sugar. A lot of people give a, it has all these great minerals and vitamins and wonderful things for your body that only, and they, oh, this sugar, only real fruit can like absorb right. You know what I mean? Also it gives you a nice little energy before workout. 100%, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But I have so many women that come to me like, oh Sandy, you'll be so proud I didn't eat my banana. I'm like, no, I wanted you to eat your banana. So then I'll have four eggs and a banana and then I'll get to work and I'll have something dumb and the next three hours, like a shake, that's like 30 grams of protein. I wish it was real food, but it four eggs and a banana. And then I'll get to work and I'll have something dumb. And the next three hours, like a shake, that's like 30 grams of protein. I wish it was real food, but it has to be a shake.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And then I'll go get a snap meal because at my work, they have snap meals. And so something with at least 25 grams of protein. So there I've had at least about 75, 80 grams of protein. And then I'll go home and then I'll usually have two Greek yogurts, which is about 20 grams of protein. And sometimes I'll put some nuts in there and then I'll go home and then I'll usually have two Greek yogurts which is about 20 grams of protein and sometimes I'll put some nuts in there and then I'll have dinner which is which I'll make sure I'll make it up all I'll make it up at dinner on my protein if I have to. And what's dinner normally? It's just either something boring like chicken, vegetables, it's steak and vegetables, it's carbs are fine just like don't eat like an asshole you
Starting point is 00:51:24 know so I always tell people. But you have your tequila and you told me the best steak and vegetables, carbs are fine, just don't eat like an asshole, that's what I always tell people. Look at your sister. But you have your tequila. Yeah, absolutely. And you told me the best Mexican restaurant. So then I have dessert every day. In Austin, you love your Mexican restaurant.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yes, oh, two Mexican margaritas and Mexican food every Friday night, please, where are we going? Let's go. That's my goal. I wanna live life. I'm a coat, I'm a strength coach. I think what gets twisted with me is people people think they're going to come to me and I'm going to be really hard on them.
Starting point is 00:51:49 They want that in some way. Adults want that. They want you to be like, and what I say is, whoa, whoa, whoa, just like we're going to chill out with your back squat that sucks. And we're going to fix that before we do a bunch of other fun stuff, you're going to chill out on whatever you're so driven on, either with the food or the over exercising or whatever, because now it's a lifestyle. You said 10 reps with me is worth more than a thousand reps with someone who doesn't understand
Starting point is 00:52:26 how to grow muscle. Absolutely. What does that mean? Well, because, and y'all know, unless we're acting a fool, but you gotta go slow when you're with me. So you gotta go slow to grow. That's what I say. So slow.
Starting point is 00:52:39 You gotta go, and you're about, you don't, like, y'all, I even need you to go slower, but sometimes I get both of y'all and I'm like what's going on a long time ago bodybuilding coaches because remember bodybuilders are the people that go on the on the show or go on the stage they know how to build muscle they have to go show it off on a show and their backs one of their techniques is like painfully slow like slow, like one one thousand, you're doing a hinge, two one thousand, three one thousand, hold, full. It's hell. It's hell.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And now I'm making you use your muscle in each rep. So instead of just turning the lights off and, oh, she said to do ten reps, to go slow is so painful. How come? And I've heard this off air. How come lifting your butt and strengthening your glute muscle tightens the vaginal wall? Oh, well, I'm not a gynecologist, but I play one at work every day. And a PT and so many things. But I mean, let's just think about it logically. Like remember, I told you, like, your body takes the position it's always in.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Like, every time you squat, things are opening and closing. Things are strengthening. You know what I mean? Things are tightening up. Things are tendons and ligaments and organ systems. Everything's getting like tight, right? Because that you're you're getting your muscle on. It's not just flabby. So I'm not sure what the, the mech, I can only imagine that the mechanism is that
Starting point is 00:54:09 you are, it's like a muscle, your pelvic wall is like a muscle and that squatting is opening and closing and strengthening that muscle. Well, I mean like tight bodies come from the skin being tight against the muscle. And that would assume that that would relate to anything. We didn't ask you literally to bow out of the squat. Yeah, but listen, if you see a flacc to anything. We didn't ask you. Literally, just bow out of this question. But listen, if you see a flaccid dick, it doesn't look great. When it gets hard and there's muscles there, then it's different. It's because it's against the skin with the muscle.
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Starting point is 01:02:03 This would be good information for you Lauren. Okay Why because you know they think I over train the whole another thing, but I think okay. Yeah. Yeah, so okay So it's a really good question Because if you're doing it right like I want you to do it in the way that I mandate through my glute method and my training is You only need four hours a week. That's it. I can do everything in four hours a week and no jokes. I do not have imposter syndrome, I already told y'all. And then if y'all wanna do the fifth day, that's the day you go do whatever fun thing, dance,
Starting point is 01:02:34 or you go, you know, to walk or like whatever you wanna do. Our pole class. Yeah, our pole class, like exactly. And then you rest two days. Oh, I know, that's so hard. But the rest, what people don't understand is that there was a time, and I told you all this, in the old days where we would work a muscle, it totally would recover, and then we would work it again. Like once every four days. Like that's how muscles actually start
Starting point is 01:02:57 to build is you let them recover. But not like a little bit, you know, like a lot. So four hours a week is what I think. Now, if you're a newbie to fitness and you, and the, what you're going to do on those four days are just basic compound lifts, it's going to be a back squat. It's going to be a deadlift. It's going to be a barbell hip thruster. Yes. A hinge. It's going to be all the same things over and over and over.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And it's so boring, but that's how you're going to get in shape is by not changing up the exercises like every time. Um, now if you're a newbie, I would, I would maybe, well, the problem is with newbie people is that you need to go almost five days a week to get the form. Do you know what I mean? What do you mean? Like you, it's always, you always wonder, you ever wonder why I give y'all the number 10 every time for reps?
Starting point is 01:03:44 So the earlier you are, the more you want to go at first? Well at first if you, now if you, this is if you're the right person is making you glue dominant, but you want to, yeah you want to get the conditioning in a little bit so you're gonna have to get a little, if you're deconditioned, you know what I mean? I want you doing a lot of like the perfecting the back squat, perfecting the hinge. And any cardio with this? And a little bit of, yeah, the fifth day would be the cardio.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Like I was saying, the four days would be strength training and then the fifth day would be the cardio. But a lot of times if you come to me deconditioned, that could be cardiovascular, that could be the limiting factor for growing your glutes. But we've said before, like people overdo the cardio. Yeah, oh, 100%. With way too much cardio. Yeah. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Way too much cardio. Well, I've always said I looked the best in my life when I only strength trained. Did no cardio. I mean, like we barely do any cardio. We do some. We do. No, but we do honestly, like what it is like zone two walks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yeah. And then like maybe once a week you're doing like heavy sprints and that's it. But other than that, you're just getting, you're just doing weight training. I mean, if you think about it, if you do strength training right, think about what your body has to do. It has to heal muscle. That is so hard. Do you know how much metabolism that takes? It takes a lot of metabolism to heal your muscle.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Your body is fighting for its life. It's sending white blood cells like you're sick to your muscles to heal them. Right? So it's like you don't need all that cardio because you're by, if you do strength training, right, your body has to mend itself constantly. The runners out there always get mad. And I have friends that are super into running, but like, again, if you go back to the way we evolved, if you were running for a long, long period of time,
Starting point is 01:05:16 it's like, because you're in fight or flight and something is chasing you or you need to get away from something. Yes. We're not really designed as human beings to run for long, long, long periods of time, you know, It wasn't really necessary. I had a doctor tell me a long time, and I did do a stint of running. I did three marathons in a year one time because I'm also insane. But when I was younger, I just wanted to give it a shot.
Starting point is 01:05:35 And he said, listen, don't do excessive running unless you have to do excessive running. There's no reason. It hurts your body. And I know it's like big controversial, but it will over time. What I see with runners consistently is injury after injury after injury. And I see their them losing their body mass. Also, if you're trying to keep your skin nice, like I always say that workout inside a gym where there's no UV light instead of being outside doing triathlons and where the wind like you're blowing your wind and the sun. That's what I started to notice.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That's where I'm coming from a perspective of skin. Yes. And I started to notice if you're running and slamming your body on the pavement, it's your knees, your legs, your face, your underarms, your tits. Yes. But I guess what I'm saying is like I've predominantly strength trained since I've been in Austin for like fourits. Yes. But I guess what I'm saying is like I've, you know, predominantly strength trained since I've been in Austin for like four years. Yes. And my resting heart rate when I
Starting point is 01:06:30 sleep through the, you know, the stupid monitors. Yes. And you love those monitors. I hate them. But like my resting heart rate is like 47 beats per minute when I'm sleeping. Then like that's a good resting heart rate. That's an amazing. And I do almost no cardio. That's perfect. I'm not talking about like from the, from a aesthetic perspective. I'm just talking about like my heart. And a lot of that is because you just carry a lot of lean muscle mass and not a lot of fat. Oh yeah. But you're getting enough, I think you're getting the cardio in those explosive movements in the gym when you're doing strength training. Again, done correctly. You do not need to do more than four hours of, you can do four hours strength training and be in great shape my
Starting point is 01:07:08 Husband I have to give him a compliment on the way he's handled muscle He he has done muscle so well because he started so early Yes, that I've always seen him be able to eat whatever he wants and never have to worry about exactly right I want to be a metabolic machine Yeah, you're more muscle you have the less you have to worry about don't want Kenny this at dinner I can't have this bread you have to worry about. Well, I can't eat this at dinner. I can't have this bread. You don't have to worry about it anymore. Your muscles will take care of it for you. Well, I think like the big thing that I try to get across, I mean, especially now doing
Starting point is 01:07:33 this show, because a lot of women are now getting interested to your point earlier of like around strength training and weightlifting. Yes. Thank God. I've only been preaching it for 30 years, but go ahead. And again, because like I have a wife and I have a daughter and I have sisters and I have people that are women that I care about. I'm like, I just, there was like this light bulb moment that happened when she started strength training.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yes. That I was almost like as a man, like, why did I not actually tell you like this is- Yeah, thanks. Yes. Like my whole life, like in order to stay in shape and have muscle and like stay trim and all these things, like it's mostly just been like consistent strength training. Yes. He goes, oh my God, I should have told you about this. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I was like, this illustrates my point so much and not, I'm not downing men coaches, don't start with me, but y'all don't look at us sometimes as y'all look at us as something different. That's a hundred percent what I was doing. Exactly. And, and so that's how a lot of women get treated. You're kind of over here and it's cute that you're doing something, strength training. That's cute.
Starting point is 01:08:27 You know what I mean? Like, but we don't really, a lot of males are like that, but I never thought of you like me. I just think it's not a way that like, you know, okay, when, when you're growing up, you at the, at the time that it was the product of the ladies, you didn't really see a lot of women in the gym. Absolutely. I know there was a few, and then there was a, everybody was worried the gym with you. Absolutely. I know. There was a few. There was just me. And then everybody was worried about bulking up, which is very true.
Starting point is 01:08:49 But I will say, Sandy, I have seen you deadlift and I was telling Lauren, I'm like, Sandy is strong as shit. Oh, thank you. You're stronger than a lot of guys I know. Oh, well, thank you. Well, I only go strong when I have to and I don't do it for the gram because people always ask me to go heavy. And I say, I don't ego lift.
Starting point is 01:09:04 If I need to go heavy, I'll go don't ego lift if I need to go heavy I'll go heavy exactly when and where I need to go heavy other than that I don't need to demonstrate it for everyone on the gram but thank you for saying that but one of the reasons I'm strong. She also doesn't want to embarrass the guys. No no no I but this is you're illustrating my point so great that okay they always say women aren't little men so don't train them like little men okay well when I say that I mean like don't grow their quads in their traps and like don't give them the bodies they want, right? But what I also want is men are raised in, y'all are usually doing sports, you're around other guys, you're in the strength training realm.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Most women are, it's totally foreign to them to walk into a gym. I had strength training PE as a kid and you would go to the weight room. I know, that's amazing. Women never have that. There's no women. Not one woman. I want women to be able to walk into a gym and approach, to be honest with you, before I die, and I don't know why, but I want women to be able to walk into a gym,
Starting point is 01:09:56 walk up to a barbell platform, feel totally comfortable there, load a barbell, and have better form than any dude in that gym. That's what I want, You know what I mean? And I want them to stop going to the cardio machines and start going to the barbell platforms. But it takes so much. It's very scary to do that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Like I, for women, you know, they've never done it. So if you learn it properly, like y'all are learning it, like if women will go and spend the money to learn strength training properly, it will change your life, like you said. I'm glad you're a dad that sees that. It's an amazing goal. Thank you. To your point, like I think a lot, like I, it was weird when we started working out with me because I was like, oh, like I would go to the gym all the time and do all these things, but I never once thought like, oh, Lauren should, I was like, oh, you're going to like Pilates or whatever. Yeah. You just thought it was like a girl thing. But then funny enough, I started going to Pilates with her.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I'm like, oh, I should probably do this as a guy once in a while too. Absolutely. Yeah. And males need to be doing more of the, of sometimes the cardio and the mobility, like stuff like that, Pilates. And then women need to be in the gyms. It's exactly. Yeah. Like it's probably not a good thing as a, as a man that I can't like bend over and touch my toes. No, it's not. And then what happens is men is y'all get all bound down. So you see these 50 year old dudes and they're all like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, I don't know. What's up?
Starting point is 01:11:11 Like, you know, like you need to stretch. Before we get into your ebook, which is amazing. Oh, thank you. Built not bought. We'll get into that. Oh, yes. We're going to do rapid fire questions. OK, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:22 This is so scary. Let me fix my. Why? Like what's going on? Is my face red from the tequila? No, it looks great. You'll swear. I swear it's not. And what's going on with my hair? Carson's not looking at your face.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Okay. Just kidding. He's not Taylor, don't worry. Yeah. If Taylor was here, oh my God. Oh, is he a butt man? Oh, Taylor's a butt man. That's an understatement. Dude, men love butts. No, Taylor loves butts.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Obsessed. Taylor loves butts. It's like a weapon. I wouldn't let Taylor within 20 feet of you. Ladies, y'all want a weapon? You what? I wouldn't let Taylor within 20 feet of you. Really? He's not in this studio mess. I hope he's editing this so he can hear what it creeps you into. Oh shit. Gotta meet this guy now. Don't be careful what you wish for. Non-negotiables. What's the most important? Protein, sleep, hydration, or weightlifting? Sleep. If someone has 15 minutes a day, what should they do to their glutes? I'm assuming the ebook will cover that.
Starting point is 01:12:08 It will. They should do the micro-rectives, which include couch stretch and glute activations and basic air squats and basic lunges. All of those are free on the internet if anyone wants to go look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's one simple test someone can do at home
Starting point is 01:12:22 to access their glute function? Couch stretch on their couch. Right. And squeeze your glute at the same time. What's one thing you wish every woman knew in her 30s about her body? You've got to stop striving for skinny and start striving for body. Squats or hip thrusts. We know that.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Squats. What's one, what's one gym faux pas that drives you crazy? You know what mine is? Oh God, yes. Wait, what is yours? I forgot. Mine is rage rap music at 70. Oh God, yes. Yeah, but Lauren, you go the other direction too. You put like Spanish guitar and I'm like lifting the heaviest I've ever lifted. No, like I, you just get so used to it in gyms. Biggest faux pas I have for gym is... What do the other trainers do? Call it out.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Oh, that the other trainers do? When they're not fun. I hate it when they're not fun. When they're too serious. We're in the gym. We're just fucking working out. Everybody be fun. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I don't get when everybody's so serious. We're serious when somebody's got weight on their back and shout out to fitness for trainers because they do really hard jobs. We load people up with weights all the time. It's a dangerous job. And you're therapists. And we're therapists.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And we're, yeah. And your energy masters. Oh, yes. We are all of those things. And it's such a wild, wild world in the fitness personal trainer But if you get a good personal trainer, they're doing they're doing a lot You know what I mean, but I love it when they're fun gyms with fun. People are my favorite. What's your favorite protein pack snack? hard-boiled eggs
Starting point is 01:14:01 What is the movement that you do with me? Ivanka and Jessica that anyone could do at home? That anyone can do at home, air squats. We all three do air squats. Absolutely. At the beginning of each of your workouts. Who's your glute idol, JLo or Kim K? Or neither?
Starting point is 01:14:17 I do like JLo. Okay. JLo's done, yeah. And again, JLo keeps her hips on a swivel. What's your thoughts on BBL? Okay, so when I named the book, Built Not Bought, I definitely, if you choose to have a BBL, this is politically correct. I don't, but honestly, I feel that way. Like, just be careful. But I think that they don't, they haven't, do you want me to be honest? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:42 They haven't perfected it yet. Okay. It doesn't even look good. me to honest answer? Yeah. They haven't perfected it yet. Okay. It doesn't even look good. This is from the butt whisper. This is from the, that's why, trust me, I'm not that great. Like if there was an easy way to do something, I might've just done it, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:54 But they, I think the boob job they've perfected, yes. The BBL they have not perfected, you know what I'm saying? And so it's also not, it's a very dangerous surgery it also if you think about it It's over time it will sag so especially if you get the fat It's it will set you know what I mean, and you've got to try to build the muscle I'm not sure what happens to the muscle around a BBL. That's what scares me I don't know if they're shifted in the front. You know what I mean, okay? So I don't know how they're gonna grow underneath all that. So that's what scares me. A last and final question,
Starting point is 01:15:26 what's the worst fitness advice you've ever heard? Oh my god, heavy heavy hip thrusters no matter what. Sandy Brockman, tell us where to get your ebook, Built Not Bought, the real way to grow and keep your glutes for life. Okay well thank you so much for asking. Oh, I do have an app. So I have on my Instagram, there is an app and it has my six week glute guide or it's the one I did for women's health, but with some of my new correctives in it.
Starting point is 01:15:57 So I did a six week glute guide a long time ago for women's health or a few months ago. And anyway, this has all my correctives, six week, it comes with the ebook and it's, um, you can go to my Instagram and find all that, or you can buy the ebook on Shopify, built not bought. And what's your Instagram? People are going to want to say hi. It's at Sandy Brockman fitness. And if you try to Google at Sandy Brockman, you'll never find me because someone
Starting point is 01:16:21 like slashed my account years ago. And I'm just waiting for my nudes to be exposed. Like the rest of us. Just kidding. I have nudes. I'm just saying for my nudes to go online. Do you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:31 What are you talking about? You have nudes of me in your safe. Oh, that's true. I do. Because I made a book. Maybe a whole book. Oh my God. For my wedding.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Carson doesn't know this because I've never exposed a- I hope he doesn't know this. I would really hope so. For my wedding I made, Michael- You butt naked book of all these like spreads. I bet they were hot. Oh my god. They were hot. You forgot about that. I wonder where it is when we did that move. No, yeah right. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Now I'm starting to think about it. I'm supposed to post this on my Instagram too. Now you're just waiting for your nudes to be exposed too. I'm gonna expose my own nudes because I could use a little vote of confidence if I'm pregnant. Maybe for this Christmas I'll make you a book. He forgot about it? Are you gonna go beat your meat to my nudes tonight? You better go find it. Yeah, I better.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Oh my god. It's probably worth a lot on the market. I know exactly. For stocks going up and down. No, but... OnlyFans, here I come. I mean, listen, when you're doing your your butt you start taking more pictures of your butt I mean, I'm not pregnant anymore and I'm in my shape that I want to be in. Yes. Yes in a year
Starting point is 01:17:33 I will do a new book and you will see this lifted Sandy Brockman Yes, the heart shape underneath the vagina something to look forward to I Mean, I will always keep my husband guessing guessing I know I love that about you never know Yes, yes, you guys go follow at Sandy Brockman Fitness. Thank you. You're welcome to come back by the way Okay, I feel like Michael is looking for a co-host for a while. I'm oh, yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be the him and her New her you want me to come like a We would have fun. Thank you. You're amazing. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you Sandy

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