The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Hrush Achemyan - On How To Never Take No For An Answer & Pursue Your Dreams With Passion

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

#264: On this episode we are joined by celebrity make up artist Hrush Achemyan. Hrush has worked with some of the biggest names in entertainment including the Kardashians. Today she joins the show to discuss how to build a business chasing your passion, how to create demand for yourself, and how to never take no for an answer. We also discuss how to overcome childhood adversity and persevere through the challenges thrown in our paths.  To connect with Hrush Achemyan click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis and we also now get our wine at Thrive! They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to select your preferred memberships package and start saving today! This episode is brought to you by Joovv. Experience the benefits of red light therapy by one of the best in the business; JOOVV! To experience the Joovv and receive a free gift with purchase go to joovv.com/skinny Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

As long as the world keeps spinning, you are not the best in the world. There's always something to learn. Even if you pick up like a tip from another artist or anything like that, just keep changing the way you do makeup. Don't keep it the same because someone else is going to catch up to the same way that you do it. And then guess what? That's all you have.

Hello, hello, hello. Happy Friday. That clip was from our guest you have. Hello, hello, hello. Happy Friday. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Haroosh. She is a major celebrity makeup artist and beauty influencer. I'm sure you've seen her all over Instagram. And I am Lauren Everett's Bostic, the co-host of the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. And I'm Michael Bostic. And holy shit, Lauren, I should have given you some headphones for this episode. You almost just blew my fucking eardrums out with the coming. You were really close to that mic. I can't hear myself, Michael shit, Lauren, I should have given you some headphones for this episode. You almost just blew my fucking eardrums out with the coming. You

were really close to that mic. I can't hear myself, Michael. I know I should have given you headphones. Guys, we are, you know, this is now I'm missing the studio. Now I'm missing the studio. I was like, okay, this is kind of fun. We're all at home. We're all quarantined. We're going to do like the home studio set up. Now I'm like, I miss the studio because my, I think I have to have ear surgery. I think you're actually going to have to pause the episode for one second and let Pixie go pee. Oh my God. Here, how about this? How about you just entertain our audience for a second? Well, I'd say this guys, this is why I miss this dude. I got to get up. I got to let the dog out while Lauren. So, you know, just bear with us, everybody. Duty calls. So while Michael lets the

dogs out to go to the bathroom, I just want to tell you guys about what I'm drinking because it's kind of fun. So I'm drinking an Aperol Spritz. I was inspired by What's Gobby Cooking latest cookbook. I showed it on my stories last night, but I got a couple questions about how I was making the Aperol Spritz because I had fun with it. So you know you add Aperol. I like a dry champagne. Shout out to Jewel the Bee who told me about dry champagne and Aperol Spritz. It makes all the difference.

I do not like a sweet champagne in Aperol Spritz. And then all the difference. I do not like a sweet champagne in Aperol Spritz. And then I did a little soda water on top and I actually added some Ashland tangerine on top too. And it is like the best mixture. And instead of an orange slice, I garnished it with a grapefruit slice. So I just thought I would share what I'm drinking right now. How was the filler content while I got up and got it? Was it fun? I don't know. How did it do? Hopefully people got a drink recipe. Right in. Let us know how the filler content made it. You know, guys, we're brilliant. And I think, you know, the dog was a false alarm. I think she, you know, we shut the door to block the noise and she didn't really have to go. She just wanted the option. She's like her mother. You know, she wanted the option.

She didn't really need to. False alarm. I want it all and I want it delivered. Okay. Who is Haroosh? Haroosh is a celebrity makeup artist and a beauty influencer. She has a super interesting story about how she got started. She truly is the definition of a hustler. She's worked on huge celebrities. And I mean, huge. I'm talking JLo, Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, Khloe Kardashian. You've seen her all over Instagram. If you want to check her out on Instagram, her handle is at styled by Haroosh, where she has millions of followers. She also has a sunglass line called Seaware. So check her out. I've worn her sunglasses on my stories before and her YouTube is popping. Definitely stalk her. And with that, let's welcome Haroosh to the Skinny Confidential,

him and her show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. Okay, so for those who are unfamiliar with you, I mean, I'm sure they've seen you on Instagram. Can you take us back to before you did makeup? Take us back into your childhood. Was it something you were always interested in? Taking Harush back into her childhood, she was a very interesting child. My parents would describe me like very filled with energy, would do very random weird things all the time. And I wanted to do a hundred things at one time. I think that's like where my push came from in general, like in life as an adult, like how I can like manage so many different

careers because I wanted to be in like tennis classes, even though it was the violin that I wanted to learn how to play. I really sucked at it. So my mom switched me to the flute. So I was in like ballet classes, karate classes, like always like doing the most and I think where my like love for makeup came from is I was in dance from five years old to 20 years old I got like very good when I was 15 years old and I started competing like nationwide and just like sitting back like because we were in a group with like diverse age groups, and just watching like the older prettier girls do their makeup, and I'm like, I want to look like that one day. So I think that's where it came from, and I would steal

my mom's makeup in the fourth grade, like her little Estee Lauder and Lancome, like you know like sample shit that they give you if $40 purchase and more. I would jack that and then go to school and like literally use like the thing, the little cotton swap thing. Me and my friend would like share it, mix it in colors. And I thought like I looked good, but obviously not. So when did you come to L.A. from somewhere? Yeah, I was born in Armenia. I moved to the United States when I was 16 illegally. Illegally? Illegally. Walk us through

that. Yeah. That's got to be an interesting story. It's a hell of an interesting story. So I was born in the Soviet Union. And during that time, it was communism. So during the fall of communism, there was no currency in Armenia for about maybe a year. So it was like mass chaos. As you can imagine, you can't purchase anything. Literally imagine if the United States, your currency doesn't matter anymore. It just becomes, everybody's becomes worthless. Yeah. So the rich doesn't matter, the poor doesn't matter. It was just chaos. And what happened was my dad was in the Russian military. So he like basically gave all the land he owned, including like my mom's engagement ring, her wedding ring, everything like that for them to fly us to the United States. So I was brought

here on a military plane. Oh my God. Did you guys land in LA? And so your life in LA began. And my dad came here with six people with $40 in his pocket. Wait. So your dad was able to negotiate himself and his family to get on a military plane that lands. And so what happens when you get here? Do you have any infrastructure? Do you have any people you can call on or any- Yeah. We had far relatives. So we all had to split apart. And I lived with my cousins for a little bit. They were like scared if they caught us or something like that. Until I would say like the age 11, my dad like really, really worked hard. He had three jobs and made sure that my mom went to school. She became like a criminologist for the DCFS service. It's like a government job. So she worked with family and children's services. So meaning like abused, raped, like if someone's parents uses drugs and just like neglects their children. So she would be the one that would like go in and take the kids out, kind of like a social

worker, but like it was her position to remove the kid and then place the kid in a group home or find like adoptive parents. I love hearing stories like this because I think a lot of times we take it for granted being born in the United States, you know, how much is already set up for us, right? And I think a lot of people, even with all the problems this country can have, it's still a very fortunate place to be born. When you hear stories like that, it really puts things in perspective. It sounds like you and your family really had to struggle there for a long time. Definitely. We lived in the ghetto.

So when did you start to really hone in on doing makeup? I was 17 years old. I think that that's like, I've always worked. I remember like even illegally working when I was like 15, 14, just because I just took example for my dad and I was like, I need to make money. I need to support my family. So my first job was at the Disney store and I lied about my age and they didn't check. I fucking love the Disney store. What the fuck happened to that? They used to have so much cute stuff. I know. Like the nightgowns and everything. I know. They'd have different sections like for each princess. Yeah. It was actually really fun. Yeah. It was just like playing with kids all day long. So when you started doing makeup,

was there social media or is this, you just started doing people's faces? So the way it started was I actually wanted to be a designer. Like my whole life, I was like, I'm going to be a designer. I'm going to be a designer. And my best friend's father owns a haute couture atelier. And he was just like, you can come and like kind of like learn what I'm doing and I would do his sketches for him so when I would do the sketches he'd always be like you concentrate more on the face like of the sketch versus what I'm asking you to do on the silhouette of the body and I'm like you're just a fucking hater like you're scared I'm gonna take your job one day you know and he's like no you're actually very talented at makeup and I'm like whatever and I just knew always how to do

makeup because of dancing I needed to know how to do stage makeup and he's like no you're really good at it like I I have a feeling that this is like your calling and I'm like yeah I'm good at it but it's like how far can you get with makeup at that time? And then so one day a bride that he was fitting for their wedding day came in. It was like, I don't know, she was like a princess of somewhere from like the Middle East. And I don't know what happened to the makeup artist. I think she got into a car accident or something like really crazy happened. She didn't, wasn't able to show up. And then the bride was hysterical. And my friend's dad was just

like, oh, wait a minute. I have a makeup artist for you. And literally sent his assistant to get like a little caboodle set with the cheapest makeup in life, like in it as fast as he could. And he like literally threw me in the dressing room and was like do her makeup I remember like shaking and I'm like oh my god it's her wedding day it's not like a trial it's not her sweet 16

it's not her birthday party at a club it's not Halloween it's her wedding day so I did my best and I remember like crying so much afterwards because i was like i fucking ruined her life well listen no no royal family had you killed so you must have done okay you should do a 10-year challenge on your instagram and show her and like show what you're doing now sir i bet it's wild i'd be so embarrassed like i didn't know what blending was

it was just stripes so when did you start to get momentum with your career where you were like, oh my God, I'm onto something. This is what I should be doing. This is my calling. Let me take a quick break here. Guys, we've been talking about this company for a long time. I really didn't want a world pandemic to have to highlight how amazing this company is, but here's where we are. And that company is thrivemarket.com, guys. I have been saying, Lauren has been saying, we have been saying for years that you need to shop on thrivemarket.com. All of your essential items, 25% to 50% below retail delivered straight to your door. Don't even need to go to the grocery

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because it saves you the most money. It comes down to about five bucks a month, not to mention the 25 to 50% below retail on all items. Again, guys, thrivemarket.com slash skinny to check it out. Enjoy. It was after her, she called me the next day and she was just like, oh my God, thank you so much. You made me feel so beautiful. Like you did a better job than like basically the trial that she did with her makeup artist. And I'm going to refer you people. She referred like 10 people. Those 10 people referred like 20 people.

20 people referred 100 people. And then it just began to get like a lot for me because I was 17 years old and booking a year in advance with brides. Wow. So I think that's when I was like, okay, I think this is what I'm meant to do. And none of this was online at the time. It was all just private bookings. No online. It was all private bookings and it was all word of mouth. And so when does social media come into play? Social media comes into play six years later for me.

So I would already be fully booked where like I was at a point of exhaustion. I was making so much money at that age. None of my friends were making money like that. And there was like a point period where even my father's like what the fuck are you doing with your life i was a bio major and he's like you need to be a pharmacist like you need to finish school and like just to be spiteful to him i was like fuck you i'm dropping out that's tough with an armenian immigrant dad that's come working his ass busting his ass and putting you know putting his daughter he wants to go through the traditional school path i mean there's

so many people probably listening that that have that pressure as well yeah and if you would have done that you probably wouldn't be nearly as successful as you i wouldn't have and i think that like not only armenian culture just eastern european middle eastern culture have the same like family pressures like you either have to be a lawyer, doctor, or I don't know. For me, it was always a lawyer or doctor. Which is like the 1% of people that actually become those things. So that pressure is, that's intense for young people to go through. It really is.

And I thought that- It's not realistic for everybody. I know. I thought that I was doing the right thing by going to school, but I hated every moment of it. And once I think like I saved over a hundred thousand doing just makeup and mind you, I was charging $40 at the time in my bedroom. Which is different than what you charge now.

Oh, very different. You charge $40 to apply one fake individual eyelash. It's more than that i'm joking but no but i mean do the math there a hundred thousand to forty dollars i mean that's a you're doing a lot of makeup yes i had to work a lot so once i reached that goal and i was like if he throws me out i have enough money to like sustain myself and he was just like he didn't talk to me for like a year because he's like you're servicing other people i didn't work work this hard for you to go be a servant, basically. He viewed the profession as me cleaning floors, basically.

Little did he know you were building a brand. What does that do for your relationship with him? I think now, fast forward to now, everything I say is golden because like- Because you were right. Because you proved it. That's the way that if you actually prove you're right. I mean, that's the pressure as well though, because if you don't prove you're right, that conversation is a lot different. And I think like what impressed them was like the work ethic where I did it like without any help. Like if anything, he added like pressure, doubt in my mind and like throughout the years of like what I he added like pressure doubt in my mind and like

throughout the years of like what I built like I think it really impressed him because he's like wow like everyone was against you and look what you built for yourself by yourself I have a question about this well that's really interesting to me the problem that you probably ran into is that people want you you can't you can't you can teach a hundred people to do what you do but people still are going to want you. So how did you learn how to scale that? I think I trained about five girls very very well throughout like a span of years. Not like sometimes everyone's like I want to be your makeup assistant. I'm like but do you have what it takes? Like a lot of people think that they know what they want until they step into the lion's den and they're like, oh, it's not as glamorous as it looks. I'm like,

yeah, you have to break your back to like make it in this industry. So I feel like when I like look for makeup assistants, I always look for like bulls, like somebody like me that can push through any obstacle, like versus like people that kind of ask questions too much or how do I do this? How do I do that? I'm like, oh, I have to let you go. They don't have to figure it out. My theme of everything when I have a daughter is resourcefulness and figure it out. You got to figure it out. We have Google now. You got to just figure it out. You got to figure it out. Yeah. We have Google now. Yeah. You know, you got to just figure it out. And the questions slow the momentum down. It really does. And it just shows me that like, I can't be there. So if I'm not there and you can't figure it out, it's not for you. What's the lion's den look like? Like,

like when you say the lion's den, what does that mean? It means sleepless nights traveling back and forth without sleeping and then being able to perform like my job requires me to be happy and putting my personal problems aside no matter i basically like went through a really really hard time i had septic shock a couple years ago and then i couldn't work for like i believe like six months and it took like such a big hit on me because I was like, oh my God, my finances stopped. Like I have to figure this out. That's when it like really hit me. I need to train these fucking assistants to be able

to do certain faces. Like, so then I got smart with it and I was like, this assistant I could see is going to be good on this client so I'm going to teach you solely how to do only this client and I'm going to give you to this client smart and like I was like I can't ever have that happen to me where like for six months your financials like basically stand still because you're sick and I think that was like maybe an awakening for me like where I started the sunglass company where I started like in the music industry. And I was like, I can't ever just ever have that happen. Yeah. I think people get confused with like solopreneurs, which I would say is like people that are there. They're basically their income and their job is solely dependent on them and entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs job

is really to build a team and an infrastructure that's not solely dependent on them. But people, they don't realize like if you create that structure and then something like what happened to you happens, that starts your business down completely. It really does because my business was solely ran on me. And that's when it hit me with a break that no, no, no, no. I need to get this all together. Also, I don't think people realize this one element of being a makeup artist. You have to have the right energy. When someone's doing my makeup and their energy is off, as someone who's getting their makeup done, you can feel it. And they're so close to your face and in your personal space that that's really important. How do you find

people with the right energy? Because you have to have the craft and the talent and all that, but you also have to have the right energy too. People skills. I always have them assist me first, like personally assist me and like I'll slowly break them into assisting me with clients. And if someone starts irritating me personally assisting me and I'm a very, very patient person. So if you're getting on my nerves god knows what you're gonna do to like a celebrity who was your first celebrity kim kardashian she was your first why'd you start why'd you start with someone so unknown um that's what just happened to me i know that's pretty how long ago five six years ago so she was starting out not out, but she was not like. She was pregnant with Saint at the time. Okay.

So she was a pretty big celebrity. Yeah. And so when you get hooked up with Kim Kardashian, is that pressure to do her makeup? I mean, that seems like out of everyone in the world, that seems like the most pressure. I didn't know it was her until she walked into the room. Oh, someone just booked and said, we have a client for you. Yeah. And I was like, huh? Were you freaking out? out yeah i think i forgot how to do makeup that day but you make her look

so beautiful i mean she is beautiful but like the way you do it's not that hard i promise i don't think it's that hard with how beautiful they are but all the kardashians whenever you do their makeup it's so beautiful thank you so when you're working with her, I'm sure you're like getting business tips too. Yeah. Because what she's built that to just be like surrounded by all these people too, it's probably helpful to your own business. It's empowering, honestly. Like just to see such a strong female unit is an amazing example. And I think I've learned so much from them from business their mom I don't know why like she's not at the level of like to me I don't know Elon Musk or something because like what she's done to the entertainment industry. There'll be case studies on her eventually there'll be there'll be books written about it for sure. Yeah, because the way she just went in and was like, this is all mine now.

Goodbye. She's such a fucking boss. I know, I'd die for her. She's the best. So after Kim's makeup, were you doing other celebrities or did you just stick with the Kardashians? I stuck with the family, as you can imagine. That many girls to do will definitely keep you busy. And I'm a very like loyal person because it opened

up so many opportunities with brand deals and so on and so forth. So it's like they're the reason why, you know, that I've been given this opportunity. So why am I going to take somebody else instead of them? So for a time being, I would like decline really big names because I don't believe in like canceling on clients. Like if someone books me far in advance, I'm not going to cancel you because like someone crazy is trying to book me. But then, by the way, never was with an agency. Wow. Did this all on my own.

And just so Michael understands, that's a big deal because most top. It's near impossible. Yeah, it's near impossible. Most makeup artists are with the Wall Group, right? Mm-hmm. Wall Group, Starworks. There is the only, there's a bunch of agencies. So typically celebrities, they only go through the agencies to get to women like you.

Yes. Okay. She found me on Instagram. Wow. So she slid in the DM. You know what's funny? No, no, she didn't. It was just an email that I got, I guess.

Because I had the contact info on my bio. We are going to take a quick break to talk about something that people are struggling with in quarantine, and that is not enough daylight. So we're inside. A lot of us are inside. We're not getting the proper nutrients from the sun. So what Michael and I are doing, and this shouldn't surprise you at all, is red light therapy. How we do that is Michael likes to stand in front of his juve light butt naked in the mornings in his office. And I like to use my handheld device while I work in the morning. I haven't skipped a beat in getting my light because I have the juve. So our cells need

natural light to function. We all know this. So it's just like they need water and nutrition from food. They also need natural light. But unfortunately, most people don't get enough natural light. I've done a lot of blog posts on this. And right now, we really, really, really need that natural light because we're inside. So this is how we're combating that. We love this product so much that we had the founders on this show and did a full podcast about the benefits of red light therapy. But just to recap, you know, there's skin rejuvenation,

enhanced sleep, reduced pain and inflammation, increased libido, balanced hormones. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And you should know I use my handheld one for hyperpigmentation. It actually helps the hyperpigmentation go away. And then I also use it to reduce inflammation because I get inflamed in my face still from jaw surgery. So check it out. I did a blog post that goes in depth on the Skinny Confidential on it. They have a few different products. You're trying to figure out what's best for you.

I use the full body, the Juve Quad. Lauren has a desktop model and a handheld one. So they have really different sizes, shapes for every individual's needs. So check them out. Go to juve.com slash skinny and use the code skinny to receive a free gift with your purchase. Again, that's juve.com slash skinny. Juve is spelled J-O-O-V-V.com slash skinny. And if you have some extra time on your hands, which I know a lot of us do, check out the episode we did with the Juve founders. Just search the skinny confidential Juve and it'll pop up and you'll learn all the benefits about red light therapy. Guys, enjoy. So makeup ariel i like randomly found on

instagram probably like no eight years ago before we were engaged so like a long time ago found him on instagram and i dm'd him i'm like can you come do my makeup when he was living in new york this is before and he comes to do my makeup and he was the first makeup artist that took like four hours on me and i was, he's a kid. He's like 17 years old. Maybe younger, actually. Maybe 16. This kid just took four hours on my makeup.

It was like the most amazing thing ever. I was sitting there. I'm like, what's going on? Because my makeup artist here takes an hour and whatever. And he insisted on staying at the shoot and working with me through the whole shoot to make sure every picture looked good. And was ice cold it was winter and i look at michael and i'm like this kid is 16 years old like unknown i think he had like 2 000 followers on instagram next thing i know it's like crazy the kardashians are using them all the time but my point is is it seems

like they know how to hand pick these people that have the hustle that are like a bull. Like you said. You have to be each artist that they work with. Their work ethic is insane. That's why like it's like hard to match. Like, yes, there are a lot more talented artists, but like they're moody or they're arrogant or they're not willing to put in the work. How you said that he stayed and made sure your makeup looks mine like that's not something that's like required of the job to do but a real artist would make sure that you look perfect for the job that was hired like

throughout the whole thing he just cared about the work he was putting out there was impressive i mean there's so many he told even when he told us like i'm gonna go to la i'm gonna fly i'm gonna do these types of celebrities he told us that like 16 like okay and the next thing the work he was putting out there. It was impressive. I mean, there's so many, even when he told us, he's like, I'm going to go to LA. I'm going to fly. I'm going to do these types of celebrities. He told us that at 16. Like, okay. And the next thing you know, he was, like, kudos to him. It's rare to see somebody that says they're going to do something and actually does it. Yeah.

R.A.L. is a hard worker. I mean, I'm not surprised. I bet he hustles his ass off still. If you had advice to someone that wants to get into the beauty industry, what are three tangible tips that you would give them? Number one, never take no for an answer. Because at one point, an agency laughed at me when I showed them my book. And they were like, oh, no, this is like too heavy makeup. It's never going to work. This is not what we're looking for. By the way, I just have to say your face,

when she walked in, it looks face tuned because it's so beautiful it looks exactly the same as it looks on instagram but go on fuck all these hoes that are telling you no nice literally if you want all you hoes yeah i don't think that's the first time i've said fuck all you hoes on this show i'll probably get in trouble for it but it's fine it's okay i'll say it for you i'm used to getting in trouble number one one, never take no for an answer. Number two, be open to criticism, constructive criticism. Some people think that they are the best in the world and that's as long as the world keeps spinning, you are not the best in the world. There's always something to learn. Even if you pick up like a tip from another artist or anything like that, just keep changing the way you do makeup.

Don't keep it the same because someone else is going to catch up to the same way that you do it. And then guess what? That's all you have. Number three, always be organized and always be kind. Don't be like a gossip. I feel like in this industry, people that like gossip get nowhere you i'm sure with celebrities and the kardashians you better like shut it because that's probably number one requirement but like i always say it doesn't matter if you're like my next door neighbor or a huge celebrity if you like

trust me enough to say something in front of me like i'm a vault like it's not gonna come out it's just like being kind as a human. If someone wants to be vulnerable in front of you, why are you going to be evil and hold that vulnerability against them? I think that's rare in LA. I mean, we're from San Diego and I see there's a difference just between the three-hour distance. It's rare. You know, the funny thing about LA to me is LA is filled with tourists, in my opinion. It's true. I think like the real LA vibe is like kind of like hipster, hippie. That's like the real Angelina's, you know?

And like where I grew up, I don't know, everyone around me was like that too. You know what I think it is with gossip here? What makes it different though is I think a lot of people in LA use people that they know as validation to themselves. And so it's like, if you tell me something confidentially and then I have that piece and I can say, oh, you know, she told me this thing. It's like, it almost, it's like, I'm trying to validate myself that I'm close to you. And I think that's the problem with this city is people use other people in order to validate themselves. Not everybody, but it's more common in this city than I've seen in others. Just validate yourself with your hard work. Michael, put your earplugs

on because I'm going to ask a couple of selfish questions. I have literal giant headphones on that I can hear everything. The under eyes. Yes. What are the tips and tricks that we can do at home to cover our under eye bags? Because clearly I'm going to have some in a couple days, weeks, seconds. So have you tried the metal spoons? No. What? What's that? It's like literally hidden secret. Unplug your ears because you could try metal spoons.

Just cold metal spoons. So you put metal spoons in like a little ice bucket and you put it inside the freezer. And then not only like your under eyes you can do it like on your face because for me like this my nose gets inflamed sometimes like right here so you use the back of the metal spoons with like a serum and you just like hold it against and keep massaging it and the bags go away ice is the best huh that's such a good tip it is and then what about like coverage specifically like give us brands that you're obsessed with. Oh, okay.

I actually did a YouTube video talking about like all of this from A to Z. It's called Hirsch's Magical Powder Technique. I'm watching that. Okay. And then it's about coverage, highlight, and color correction and all that. Tarte Shape Tape is amazing. It can cover a bruise if you want it to, if you know how to like manipulate the product correctly.

And to me, it's not always like about products. It's the manipulation of the product, the technique behind using it. Speak on that. Tell us about that. So I think like a lot of times people use concealer and they start blending away immediately. You're never supposed to. Whoops. He always says, you'll have concealer on your neck. Yeah. You're supposed to like place it very thinly and not with the wand. I do it with a brush and let it set for a second, like for it to get tacky, kind of like eyelash glue. You wouldn't put eyelash glue immediately on your eye. Same applies with concealer and foundation. So you just like let it like set for a little bit and then you can blend it out so it won't move around and

cause the creasing. That's a great tip. So when I put it on, I apply it. Can I apply it with a wand or no? Apply it with a brush. I don't like using the wands. So apply it with a brush, let it sit, let it get tacky. Like a synthetic flat brush. And then use a brush to blend it in you can use like a stippling brush to blend out the outer corners okay and then use a beauty blender to just push in the product underneath your eye and what are these lashes that you're wearing because they're very sultry yeah they're very sultry without being heavy thank you i like make them i'm gonna do like a video on how to make that's is that the next product i know because hopefully that's like the first thing i noticed when you want everyone always says that all my clients are like no one can do a lash like they're very sexy i hate when you get a fake lash

and it's like weighing down on your eye yeah or when it's like like it makes you like janky like yeah yeah exactly like medusa from the rescue rangers like it's like hanging off but another trick honestly this is probably gonna sound gross i like you like the third time you use the lashes is always the best for me oh so save them yeah normally i just put them on his pillow no save them oh i'm gonna save they start looking more natural oh okay i'll just i'll keep them on your pillow and you can i got a whole collection of those things. Yeah, he has lashes. One time I stuck them to his ball sack. I stuck them to his face. Oh my God, I'm dead.

There's probably a bunch in this hair of mine. He thinks they're spiders. I mean, it's amazing. That's everything. What's the weirdest makeup hack? Oh, turmeric. You can blend it into your eye cream very lightly and it dies underneath your eyes. So if you have dark spots, and I

recently learned this trick because I twisted, sprained, rolled, and fractured my ankle falling down a flight of stairs. Yeah. So one of my friends, she's like, this is an old Persian remedy. So they put eggs and mixed it with a lot of turmeric and made it into a paste and it literally took away the swelling and i was like hmm maybe i should do that on my vagina after i give birth probably yeah wait so you just take eggs egg whites or the whole egg no two egg yolks two egg yolks yeah with turmeric with turmeric mix it up it takes down swelling like on another level how How long do you leave that on? For nine hours.

You can have sex with me with a turmeric vagina and it can get all over your penis. But it dyes the skin. That's where I was like, oh wait, yellow cancels out. Dark spots. So how long does it, how long till the dye goes away? I mean, mine is kind of still there. So, I mean, I just got off the boot like two, three days ago. So it dyed my nail polish too. Well, you know, it works as dye. Yeah. What's a Kardashian makeup secret that

they're obsessed with? Like highlighter tip or like an eyebrow tip or like lashes? Honestly, I feel like they're so open with all their tips that there is no secret. Like everyone always asks me that question. I'm like, bro, they put it all out on their apps like remember the time when they had their apps they literally would like those were their secrets you know what they've done for the makeup and styling industry and hair industry and i'm sure you would agree with this is they i feel like before them everyone was like hush hush with their glam squad we were all in the closet you like no one came out and was like i get glam and now getting glam is like getting your nails done like i mean sometimes i do it three times a week yeah it

saves time it does that's really cool that they like it's like revolutionized the beauty industry yeah that's awesome like everyone's like an entrepreneur now yeah i mean we've talked to so many people like scotty tuna who's you know does their hair he's like you know his own entrepreneur like all these different people are like known as entrepreneurs which is so cool yeah can you tell us about your sunglass line that you launched yes so the sunglass line happened i'm coming out with another line that's actually was supposed to be seawear, but the product is literally very difficult to make. And I've been working on this project for about four years now to develop and fingers crossed FDA approves it. That's what was supposed to be seaaware. And then my business partner was just

like, all right, let's just build the brand off of something else. Seaware doesn't have to be one thing. Like think of it like a department store. Like he got this like idea in my head. He's like, you're trying to give every like what my goal with Seaware was is like, I have so many young followers that can't afford like the things I'm putting out there. And I'm very big on like, I think after what happened to me with like septic shock, I almost died. I almost had my leg amputated at 17 surgeries. Like it was really crazy. And after that, I was like, what can I do to serve the audience that's been so loyal to me? And like, that's where I started like doing YouTube and just like really, really being honest where like against the advice of

like publicists, like, no, you don't have to like disclose that. I'm like, who the fuck am I hiding from? I don't give a fuck. Like, I'm not ashamed of my truth. So here it is. You don't like me. Fuck you. And if you like me, fuck you. And if you like me, hello, I love you. Can we like pull that clip and put it on repeat over and over and over again? I agree with you. Yeah. So I think that's when I felt comfortable to do YouTube.

And at first I was like, oh, these nasty comments. I'm like, bro, go to church. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're so nasty and like in a way like I almost feel bad for people that say nasty things because you know that they're just using you as a mirror it's like they're almost saying it to themselves because I mean think about what kind of mind state you have to be in to waste your own personal time and go say bad things especially nasty though it's more nasty than any other platform it's different well because it's one of the platforms where there's not you know you can't like click and be like oh who's this like instagram you got to be careful

unless you have a troll account people are going to look you up and they're going to call you out you know what i do i don't read my comments on youtube but i want to everyone keeps telling me that but i want to because there's so much love in the comments that i want to show my appreciation yeah to the people that are there supporting me and i want to comments that I want to show my appreciation to the people that are there supporting me. And I want to read what they want to see from me. So like, I want to give them content that they want. Like, I'm not like just pulling ideas out of my asshole. Like, it's just, if I'm seeing a repetitive like want, then I'll give it. But I remember this one girl, like, I just like, I was like, you know what, I'm to clap back in my own way, like to just put them to shame, like not in a nasty way, but just, bro, you're stupid.

Like someone was like, oh, you have a sponsorship for Sigma brushes. You're such a liar. Why don't you say it? And I was like, have you ever had a sponsorship deal? Do you know how they work? You know how much trouble I can get into by not saying it's an ad and I don't know if you know this but in the contract of any sponsorship it says if you are promoting our product you cannot promote a competitor brand in the same video or even like months apart or weeks apart yeah you just hit them with logic

yeah they went and they didn't read with logic. Yeah. They went and deleted the comment. They didn't read that exclusivity clause. Yeah, they went and deleted the comment. Or like somebody was just like, you're so scary looking. If I was your husband, I would commit suicide. And I was like, thank God I'm not married. No. Thank God you're not my husband. I know. And it's like, you are so sick in the head for suggesting suicide for anyone for appearance purposes. Let's say if I'm ugly to you, or if I'm not appealing to you, like, are you okay? Are you having thoughts of suicide that you're implementing somebody else commit suicide? Yeah, deflection. Yeah. But you know, like, I think one thing you said in there, like there

is a silver lining is, you know, I think with the media today and with everybody, a lot of people focus on the negativity. But I think one thing smart that you do is you go and find the positive comments in youtube it's important to read those because i find that it still is a very small demographic of negative hurt people it's like 10 percent yeah the other 90 are there and they're spreading positivity yeah you know just so when you launched your long sunglass line was everyone obsessed because i have your sunglasses i love the aviators. You love the hangovers.

The hangovers. Is it hungovers or the hangover? Hangover, hungover, whatever you want it to be. The hungovers. I'm not hungover right now, but I can't wait to learn. They're amazing, right? They are amazing. So did you like get to sit down and design them with a sunglass designer?

How did it come about? So we used the sunglass designer and then it took so long to get it right though. I had no idea like how much molds costs and this cost. So it was supposed to be a different product. And then everyone's like, my investor partner is a numbers person. And he's like, oh, sunglasses do really well. And it makes sense on you because you get so many sunglass deals. Then I got two offers for a collaboration for different sunglass brands. And I was like, oh, they're not stupid. So they obviously ran numbers. So I must be lucrative in the sunglass world some way, somehow, because I always wear sunglasses because being a makeup artist, I look busted 90 percent of the time when I'm working. Yeah, right.

I wear a baseball cap and sunglasses 24-7. Really? Yeah. So you don't show up looking the way you look right now? No. Okay. Because it's like client after client after client. I hate wearing makeup under lights because it basically fucks up your skin because it opens up your pores and then the makeup goes into your pores.

But you didn't know that tip, Lauren. What? You got to say that in my skin interview with you after i didn't know that she's gonna be doing makeup in the dark now yeah no it's good if it's for like a little bit but if let's say you're doing six clients under a smoldering light like it's bad for your skin it's not good to like wear that much i did did not know that. What does it take to book you now? You obviously have so many years under your belt. You're so talented. You've got your own line. You're an entrepreneur.

You're busy. You're momentum. Can you even book you now or is it impossible? No, yeah. People can still book me, but I think it has to be something I'm inspired by. You know, I think before it was just like I was taking so many bookings and kind of like damaged my body where like I have like a pinched nerve. My shoulder like always pops out of place, like my leg, my knee. Like so I was like at one point taking 15 clients a day, like standing

like that. So I think I was stupid in that sense when I overdid it, when I was like younger in the peak because I was like, this is going to end sometime. This is going to end sometime. You know, like I never thought that it would lead to this because of social media. But like I was just trying to take as many people as I can, where now it's just like I have to be careful with how many clients I take because now I because of the septic shock, I have autoimmune. And it's like I can't kind of like exhaust myself so when I exhaust myself or sometimes when people are sick I'll like my getting sick is me being sick for like three four months how do you get septic shock I got septic shock from having a breast lift and a reduction and they left, I guess, a stitch that wasn't sanitary in my right boob. Oh man, that's fucked. Oh my God. And left it in for 11 days and I swear I knew something was wrong. So it just started to hurt? No, I just felt like dizzy, like I was shaking and I was like,

this is not normal. Like, don't you get better as time passes by? I've had a procedure before, so like I know how it works and I'm like, you feel better as time passes by. I've had a procedure before, so I know how it works. And I'm like, you feel better as time passes, not worse. And then it was just, I don't really remember anything after 11 days. It was just like a fog. What could you have done to have caught that? How would you have even known? If the doctor paid attention. I'm sure he's not happy. That sounds like it's not good for the doctor. Not good for the doctor at all. No, that doesn't sound like he will be wearing your sunglasses. No, he won't be wearing any of my products. Sounds like he'll be paying for some sunglasses.

So when did you start to feel better? Was there something that helped that you did holistically or like in the wellness space? I think when I was in the hospital, I was on so much drugs that like I felt like I was going into another world and coming back. And I was like kind of like delusional, like, am I seeing things? Am I not seeing things? Am I seeing things? No, I'm crazy. Like so then I started having like weird dreams after that. Like it was like so bad. Imagine that the hospital sent a priest into my room with a choir. Wow. Yeah. You look amazing now. Thank you. I mean, I'm really glad that you're all healed. You look like you'd never know. I know. It was really bad. What is a book, a podcast, or a resource that you would leave our audience with? I think that it's never too late to reinvent yourself and to try something new. And I think that one thing like for a long time, that experience was like, why me? Why did this happen to me? Like, because it like really like technically handicapped me for a little bit. and use my brain and like figure out different ways to become an entrepreneur and like how to

make money work for me versus me working for money and just be a better person honestly because you never know like what somebody else is going through where can everyone find you where can everyone find your eyeglasses and what's next you You can find the sunglasses at seewear, siwear.com. We're sold out of most styles. Are they sold out of the one I like? No. The hungover. I made sure to like, so the way the brand works is like, I kind of wanted to do like the supreme motto where like, this is what you get. Once it's gone, it's gone. Okay. The hungover hungovers like there was so like a lot of want for them they're so cute so the amount that i ordered like people were questioning my sanity and i was just like how the fuck are you gonna sell all these like are you crazy like big people with big brands don't

order this quantity i'm like trust me this is gonna a staple. And I'm not a liar. I said, once it's gone, it's gone. So I don't want it to be gone for a very long time because I think the way I made these sunglasses, designed them not to like imprint, not to give you a headache because I get headaches a lot. Like when I wear heavy sunglasses, they're like, okay, whatever. So it worked out. We have a whole new collection coming out in 2020, a collaboration with the brand with a very big influencer. Like she's bringing basically her twist on to the brand. So the brand is never going to stay one way. Like the brand see where it kind of launched. Like, I don't know if you saw the party and stuff like I grew up in the hood so like i wanted to like make sure people understood like i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth but then i put the spoon there later on in my life

you can do the same you put the spoon i bought the spoon you got the tiffany's yeah it's your own and i dipped into the fro yo and i fed myself you can do that too you dipped it into the pro yo i have my own spoon michael so don't fuck with me. I have my metal spoon and my ice and then I used it on my ice. And I bought another spoon from my ice. You girls have fucking shovels. Yeah, the next purchase is that actually. And where can they find your personal Instagram?

My personal Instagram is styledbyharush. And it's with an h yeah s-t-y-l-e-d-b-y-h-r-u-s-h my name is very difficult and i just have to shout out anna at pellicure that's how i was introduced to you and if you guys haven't gone to pellicure and gotten a scrub down you're dirty you gotta go they scrub your butthole they get in there and it is the chicest, cutest Korean spa I have ever seen in my life. I know. Anna, we love you. It's amazing.

And every time I go there, I feel like I just crawled out of my mom's vagina. Truth. I want to go there after I give birth and then rub turmeric and yolks in my vagina. I got you. Thank you for coming on. FaceTime me while you're yolks in my vagina. I got you. Thank you. FaceTime me while you're doing it. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me.

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