The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Isabela Rangel Grutman - How To Become Independent, Find Balance, Build Your Own Brand Or Side Hustle, & Motherhood

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

#779: Join us as we sit down with Isabela Rangel Grutman – global philanthropist, clothing & jewelry designer, creative brand advisor, model, style influencer, & full-time mother. Isabela takes us on a journey through her life, from her roots in Brazil & early experiences traveling the world as a young model, to her thriving in a vibrant nightlife scene. In this episode, Isabela opens up about learning independence at a young age, navigating the modeling industry, & finding balance between motherhood & her dynamic lifestyle.   To connect with Isabela Rangel Grutman click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697)   This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential   Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes.   Use code SKINNY for 15% off of Isabela Rangel Grutman’s luxury jewelry brand IsaGrutman.com & 30% off her clothing brand ShopRangel.com.    This episode is sponsored by Cymbiotika   Head over to Cymbiotika.com for 25% off + Free Shipping sitewide for a limited time during their Black Friday Sale!   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential   Give the gift of an upgraded routine this Holiday Season! Shop our biggest sale of the year at ShopSkinnyConfidential.com.   This episode is sponsored by Woo More Play   Get your sexy on with Woo More Play and visit Nordstrom.com to shop Coconut Love Oil this Holiday Season! Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

There's so many beautiful girls out there, right? Him and her. There's so many beautiful girls out there, right? You just have to show your personality and your charisma and how smart you are or like how you express yourself. So then at least you stand out because there are so many beautiful girls out there. And then I was competing with like really tall girls and skinny. And I was never like the skinniest one. I was always like bigger butt and bigger legs and shorter. So for me, it was more just talking to the client and getting them to know me a little bit more. And then from that, like I had a lot of clients in my career

that they always call me back. So it was never like a once-off. Global philanthropist, clothing and jewelry designer, mother, wife, creative brand advisor, model, style influencer, and full-time entrepreneur is on the show. Welcome Isabella Grutman. And she has the most beautiful jewelry line. I stalked her site. I could not believe how I wanted every single piece. She gave you guys Code Skinny for 15% off. Hailey Bieber is a huge fan of her jewelry. You should know this. A lot of pieces that Hailey wears sell out. You can go to isagrutman.com. You get 15% off. In this episode, we talk about her roots in Brazil, her early experience with traveling the

world as a young model, being a mother, the way she thinks about motherhood, thriving in a vibrant nightlife scene. And we go into independence, the modeling industry, and finding balance between motherhood and her dynamic lifestyle. Isabella, welcome to the show. This is The Skinny Confidential, him and her. I am so excited to interview you. I think I found out about you through Melissa.

What health? And I just wanted to get your story on the podcast because you have a really cool story. What was it like growing up in Brazil? Oh, my God. So I actually grew up in a farm. So that's something that nobody knows. So my parents got divorced and then my mom moved with us to like a very small town, like a small village. And we used to spend all our time on the farm, like literally like milking cows and picking

fruits. And that was my childhood until I was 13. When I was 13, my sister's friend came to me and she's like, I think you should be a model. I was like, oh, let me try. And then I went to her agency and then the agent was like, when you're ready to start working. So then I had to move to a big city. So imagine like a farm girl moving to a big city and I'm moving with my dad and my dad like he never really raised us so he was like okay you can take a bus you go figure it out your life and I was like okay how do I do that like I had to figure out everything myself and then I started working at 13 but in the same

time going to school but working at the same time and you had a single mother from third to 13 yeah and how was that I mean she worked a lot and I think that's what made me like I work so much because I used to look at my mother and be like she's working the whole day she leaves us food in the fridge we had to warm it up ourselves and like things like that So then it's just so inspiring to see that she did it. You know, like my dad was, he was there and not there. You know, he was still my dad. I used to see him once a month or something like that, but it was all my mom.

Did you have a good relationship with your father or? Yeah, I used to have a like, I didn't know what to expect otherwise, you know, like. So it was an amicable separation. They just, the marriage didn't work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't work. It's otherwise you know like so it was an amicable separation they just didn't work yeah yeah it didn't work it's funny because Michael and I are having conversation right now about how he's like we need to make sure the kids are independent and like doing their own things they always want to be with us but one thing that's so cool about your story is it sounds

like you had to just figure it out constantly yeah but don't you think as a parent like i go back and forth with this where i'll obviously love my children and i want them to feel secure all the time with us and i get sad if they're sad but at the same time like you need to go i need to push them yeah because i mean i think probably all three of us had that independence and i worry that coddling them too much is going to make them soft. Oh, a hundred percent. Like I push my girls to do everything themselves. Like, I'm like, go shower, go do this, go do that. And like my friend's kids are the same age and they're like, wait, your daughter knows how to put a seatbelt. I'm like, yeah, of course. I throw her on the back and be like, put your seatbelt. And then they have to figure it out. You know, you push them like to learn things

by themselves too, otherwise, cause if you do everything for them, they're not gonna have that drive. But then in the same time, I think I'm too independent because they push me so hard to always be independent. Don't depend on a man, don't like go for it yourself and then now i'm like i could just be a little more chill i just have too much energy to like work work work work and i don't relax so when you were little your mom was like never rely on a man yeah exactly i had

the same experience never rely on man and even my dad used to say like you have to study so hard because you don't want to depend on a man. You don't want to. And then like the mentality always stuck to me. And then I was like, OK. So when you start modeling at 13, what is like the nitty gritty actually look like of that? Because a lot of these stories that people come on the podcast, they were scouted and they started modeling. But there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes before you sort of get a really great gig yeah so it was kind of funny because i was 13 and i was doing wedding dresses and like it was so weird i look back now and i was doing like swimwear wedding

dresses i'm like and then i look at my little face i'm like how would someone scout me for that like how would someone like choose me but i don't think for me it was something but for me it was something so natural as soon as i put in my mind okay this is my job i would be like i show up early to work. I was like on time. I was like waiting for my paycheck. It was, it was a job. It's a business for me. So I never picked, oh, I don't want to do wedding dresses. Cause that's not what my age is appropriate. I was like, okay, whatever. I'll take that job. What was the big first thing that you got that you can remember? My big first thing was actually Milan

because after so when I was 15 I started traveling the world right so I did South Korea, Milan, London, Paris like everywhere and by myself just as a little detail and then I was in Milan and I was really struggling there because people are very mean and like I was in Milan and I was really struggling there because people are very mean and like I was too young and nobody was there like helping me or anything like that so I was super upset the whole time and then I got the Guess fashion show and back then Guess was like huge it was the biggest thing and then they made me close the show. And it was me in a wedding gown. Me in the wedding gown, black wedding gown. And then I had to throw like red roses around.

And it was like the biggest closure. And I remember sending my dad like pictures and he was so proud of me. And I can never find that video. So if anybody finds that video, please send it to me. But for me, it was like, wow, okay, I need to keep going. Even though I was so depressed, I was not happy with myself. I got a really big thing at the moment.

Our team needs to find that video. I'll be on that. I don't think you could just YouTube that and find... I try, but I mean, I'm 32 now. So it was 17 years ago 18 years ago what are the differences between brazil and all of these other countries that you travel to i've never been to brazil like if you were to describe what all the differences that you saw yeah at a young age what were those brazil is really fun people are very happy yeah so wherever you go people are so welcoming they

open the doors for you they're like like, come over, come in. They're very welcoming. And a lot of those countries that I've been to, for example, Italy, they're like Milan, they're not. Like Korea, they want to be, but they don't communicate. They don't speak English. They don't speak your language. So a lot of the countries, I was just by myself.

And in Brazil, I always had like my family and my friends and I always felt like welcome and in a lot of those places you're just on your own. I love Brazilians. They have like such a good vibe attitude and you know all the music in my house is Bossa Nova. I love that. That's all I listen to. You walked down the aisle to Bossa Nova. in my house really? is bossa nova I love that that's all I listen to I think you walked down the aisle to bossa nova I walked

I love no you don't I like love I want to go to Brazil so bad you have to tell me where to go I love that

you have to go to Rio so if you like bossa nova it starts from Rio and then you go more in the north like Bahia Brazil is so beautiful I hope you're taking

notes on this because I'd really like a Brazilian I'll send you guys a full detail come on you bring all the jewelry now she's going to be on your website. Next time if I ever come back to Austin I'm definitely going to bring you something. She's going to be on your site after this being like look at this one this and this one. After you had the the guest moment where you're walking down in a black wedding gown throwing

roses what were the other things that you remember looking back that sort of shaped your career? When I moved to Paris, I started doing a lot of beauty. How old were you when this happened? So Italy, I was 15. And then I actually went to South Africa. So I went to South Africa at 17 years old. And then I stayed there for four years. What if your daughters come to you at 15 and say, Hey, I'm just going to tell them, let's go. I'll go with you. I'm not letting them go by themselves. I'm going with them. There's no way.

But what my parents say is like, I was always so serious and I still am. I never done drugs. Like I'm super like straight up to like business and work and this and that. And that they never even thought to say no to me. They were like, okay. Were there moments that you were scared in all these places or no? I'm more scared now when you're like a teenager and not scared of anything, you just go with it. Like I went through situations and I'm like, if it was now, I'll be so scared. And then back then I was like, OK, whatever.

I went through nothing happened. Like, it's OK. So what were more things that happened to you along the way that are like moments in your career that were big? So when I moved to Paris, I was going to say so I was 20. I started doing a lot of beauty campaigns and then I did a hair campaign for Pantene and that was so big for me it was the biggest paycheck I ever got and it was like it was a commercial so like every time it plays like they were paying me I was like wow this is amazing and then the

same commercial was shot with Giselle so my piece was small compared to hers, obviously. But when I heard I was in the same commercial as Giselle, I was like, wow, this is insane. And then that for me was like the biggest thing. And she wasn't in the same studio. Like we shot in Portugal and she shot somewhere else, but they put it, they linked it together. And how do you get to Miami? Miami was after New York. So then from Paris, I went to New York. So South Africa, Paris, Paris, New York. And then I met David, my husband there. And he's a Miami guy.

So I started going every weekend. And then he proposed after eight months. And then we got married. And then I moved to Miami and I'm so happy there. I've heard from multiple people that you are so creative and you sort of help with everything that he does in Miami. He's obviously very well known in Miami.

When he started courting you, did you like him right away or did it take a minute? So when I met him, he has a lot of personality and he's very intense and then from day one he's like okay you're my girl like I want to be with you and I was like slow down tiger like this is too probably much more yeah and I was like no I have a happy life in New York I'm working well like I have an apartment like I don't need to be going to Miami, like unless I really want to. And then he, he just got so intense. And then I was like, I don't know about this. I don't know about this. And then I said to him, like, if you want that like intensity, we have to be boyfriend and girlfriend. And then we have to make things official. And I like traditions. So I'm not going to move in before a ring.

I'm not doing. So then he proposed after eight months because he's like, I want to marry this girl. And then we've been together for nine years now. And at this point, are you still modeling? Yes, I am. But it's different now. It's more like involving social media or it's a reel that they want me to post or it's a campaign.

But then at the same time, it's for me to post and their company to post. So it's more like around social media. It's not like catalogs or things like it used to be before. Where do you think your confidence comes from? Because it sounds like from a young age, you were very independent. You had the confidence to obviously go out on your own, be in front cameras then move to all of these places find your husband be super up front with him get him to propose like what do you think all that confidence that from your mom from your dad what do you think that i think it's a mix of both like my dad is a he's very he's a civil engineer

so he's very smart like very well articulated like he always has a good point on things and then the same time he always told me like even if you're a model you have to read the newspaper you have to always be reading a book you always so that gave me the confidence that I can talk and I can express my feelings but then in the same time, my mom always pushed me like to be like, okay, you know who you are and you like, there's so many beautiful girls out there. And then I was competing with like really tall girls and skinny. And I was never like the skinniest one. I was always like bigger butt and bigger legs and shorter. So for me, it was more just talking to the client and getting them to know me a little bit more.

And then from that, like I had a lot of clients in my career that they always call me back. So it was never like a once off, like even for big companies, I did like four campaigns and not just one thing. And that's it, you know, because I think that they like the way I showed up to work and I was always professional. My nails always done and like hair is always clean little things i think this shows uh how professional i was no it goes a long way because in the world that we're in in media you'd be surprised how often people that start to get a platform show up and i guess this is maybe not nice for me to say like in a very unprofessional way i'm sure you've met some of these people where it's like they're

there and they think the job is just always going to be there for them no they don't realize you have to treat people well you have to hold yourself in a certain way and like even the way you show up to work you know like you have to be like with clean face like i i see a lot of new girls and back in the day i had like a course that i had to do to become a model so you do like a six week intense thing that they tell you how you have to show up. Like your hair has to be clean. Your nails has to be done like no makeup. You can do fake lashes. You can do any of that because then you just giving that blank form for them to use it.

Right. Like if you show up and you have a lash done and then they don't want that aesthetic, like it's going to mess up their work. So it's a lot of the little things that I wish there was still training models, and even like how to respect the clients, how to talk to them and everything else, but they don't do that anymore. They just put them straight through. You should do your own school. Add it to your list. At what point did you know that you were entrepreneurial? Because you've got a lot going on. At what point did you start to realize, wait, I also want to open my own businesses? Yeah, I think if it comes from my husband, like he opens so many businesses. He

does so much at the same time. And like just watching him, he's not scared of anything. He's like, oh, there is a new place that i can open in dallas let me just do it like let's do komodo there i'm like but wait it's a new city you don't know anybody like i overthink things but he goes straight through like he's like like i have nothing to lose let's just drive it doesn't work it doesn't work so it comes from him first and then also during COVID, I always like to work and be busy. And COVID for me was like, wait, I don't have to do anything. It was weird. And then I started sewing again because during my South Africa time, I did fashion design as well as modeling. And then I went back to sewing. So I was sewing a lot of my girls dresses my girls was so tiny and I was just

making dresses and then everybody that was coming over to and then they were like oh this is so cute why don't you sell them it's like okay but if I sell I have to do a proper company like and then I work with a branding agency everything else and then I think that after I did my first brand, Rangel, and I was like, I want it sustainable. I want this. And I went like very Brazilian inspired. I was like, okay, I did that. But in the same time, I love jewelry. So I was like, I need to also accomplish the jewelry brand.

And I started with a friend of mine and she pushed me through. And then now I have an investor that bought her out and I'm very happy with it. Quick break to talk about Symbiotica as we head into the holidays. This is the time when many people take their foot off the gas pedal. Holidays are here. Let's eat. Let's be happy. Let's be merry. I would argue let's also try and be as healthy as possible, which is why I'm so excited to talk about Symbiotica. This is a time when I believe you need to put even more love into your body because you're probably abusing yourself a little bit over the holidays. What I love about Symbiotica is they have such an array of products that can help support your entire body, your entire system. It is a time when, like I said, we are eating a little

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It's kind of like my baby. I'm very excited for it. You can go to shopskinnyconfidential.com. I would get on subscription because we're probably going to sell out. We do sell out a lot. Go shop our brow peptide at shopskinnyconfidential.com. How do you balance all of your nightlife that you have? And maybe you don't, maybe you're in bed at eight. Yeah. How do you balance all that? This is part of the reason that I'm scared. She's like, oh, maybe we'll move to Miami. And I was was like i don't know if we can do all what you're doing during the day and also do what you guys are doing at the night because it seems like you also like

have your hand creatively at in the nightlife too it's just like it's the life i chose right you have to think of like you choose your husband and my husband is in a nightlife so this is the life I chose so a lot of the times I'm like I'm so exhausted I don't want to go and then in my mind I'm like suck it up and go like like you gotta I have to like be with him yeah you know because I'm working the whole day what's your as a couple what's your typical weekly routine because i imagine yours is maybe different than dave's yeah typical or both of you because you're going to these places and there is a night like what time do you guys wake up how do you guys manage your schedules during the week now because we both aging right so we used to go out much more and then now we go for dinners but we i started telling him like monday and tuesdays is date night

like don't even ask me for like anything else unless it's like a chill dinner at seven o'clock we can do that or like a double date or something it's fine but we're not going out out monday tuesday okay so she's like okay will you go to your places on monday tuesday or it's a different place so it could be a different place but then from like wednesday to saturday sunday it's our places and most of the time dinner is at nine o'clock ten and then what time do you stay up till so during the week i'll say until midnight 1 a.m then the weekend, if it, let's say it's a Basel week, I'm out like until 3 a.m. How are you out until 3 a.m. and your skin looks like that? What's the secret? 3 a.m.?

I would look like a fucking pig. I would look like a pig. No, Laura. It's like a real pig. I don't do drugs. Maybe that's why. Maybe, yeah. And I don't smoke.

Hearing you talk about this talk but i do drink there was a time when that that used to be my life but then i've now i've calmed down maybe i should maybe we should kind of delve back it's not like that guys like we have a very chill like life even though i'm saying this to you like people like my friends are not coming out every single night we do that because it's the business. And then, but then during the day, we wake up at 7 a.m. After being out till three? No, she said usually she's out till one.

Like midnight one. And then we up at seven because of the kids. So they go to school. They don't care what you did the night before. Yeah, they don't care. They are mommy, mommy. Exactly. So then 7am, they're up.

We take them to school. Dave has been taking them because he plays tennis straight away. So he takes them to school and then go play tennis. I work out straight away. And then by like nine o'clock, I start meetings and go to the store and just start my day. And then it ends by 5, 6. One thing I like about Miami is it is a great place to kind of recover. start meetings and go to the store and just start my day. And then it ends by 5, 6. One thing I like about Miami is it is a great place to kind of recover and it

feel whenever I'm there, I feel very relaxed and healthy and you see people and they're all like people over there look like they're in shape, active. And people always working out, eat healthy. Like it's a very good lifestyle. And I love the fresh air. Yeah. Like when I'm in Miami I was just in New York and then it gives me a headache because you can breathe properly in

Miami it's like the breeze is so nice this is so weird too New York gives me like under eye bags because the pollution is like clogging your lymphatic and then when you're in a place like Miami or Austin you don't have those under eye bags it's so weird i'm not joking check your under eye bags when you're in new york it literally has like my whole yelling at us out of all that self i hate myself in new york now like oh even the energy i got in miami and i was like you know when you feel so drained i was drained yeah it drains you it drains you i listen i love it i tell michael i use it like a mistress you fuck it let it suck you and then you get the

fuck out exactly and then you out really fast really fast yeah yeah i think if you stay in a city for a long time you start to forget the effect it has until you don't realize because we were in la before this until we left and came here like oh wow like i'm much more relaxed out here yeah just like being in those cities out of all the restaurants and everything that you guys are a part of which is your favorite one it's like choosing a baby you can't do that it's too hard it's too hard and every restaurant has its own personality so like gecko is a Japanese steakhouse, really fun and young and fresh. And the food is so good. Then Komodo, it's in a bigger scale, more like Chinese and duck, that kind of stuff.

And that was the first baby. This was the first restaurant. And then we have Casa Dona now. That's an Italian place. Beautiful view, like right by the water. And we have Swan and then the club live that's crazy is the club nuts it's crazy so fun i don't think i've been to live you've never been no she's been but it's been a long time long time long time you know actually i've when did we go to live it's

been years it's been a bachelor party you went to no no it's been years. It's been years. Was it a bachelor party you went to? No, no. It's been years. You've been there. We were with our friend Steve. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did go there. You walked in a long time ago. He's right. He's not wrong. I also really like swan. Your husband actually set us up one time in a restaurant.

We got put on text and he put us in one of the steakhouses. It was delicious. Did they treat you well? Yeah. It was absolutely delicious. 10 out of 10. You mentioned that you work out in the morning. What's your workout that you're doing every... us the whole schedule of the week yeah so if i'm in miami let's

say monday to friday i do i have a trainer every day monday to friday and that's weights and i do 30 minutes i don't talk to him like it's perfect i. I show up and he tells me what to do and then I'm out of there. Like I don't want to talk. I don't want to like linger. It's 30 minutes and that's it. And then twice a week actually. So besides this trainer,

Tuesday and Thursday, I do a Brazilian butt workout. You will love that. It's like literally this girl that comes and does weights for just the butt not legs no like calves nothing it's straight up weight get the information later and it's like i feel like it's working and that's an amazing like brand that she does but weights it's like but wait but i'll send you her instagram she's so good and she only do it 30 minutes twice a week with her she likes me to do one hour okay so i

do 30 minutes with him then i do one hour with her do you do brazilian lymphatic drainage i do that i'm obsessed once a week who is your girl in miami do you have like a person yeah yeah her name is angelica and uh her instagram is oya beauty what's brazilian lymphatic drainage what's what's the difference oh my god it's amazing how so it just helps the circulation in your body like the whole body yeah they do the whole body but us women we retain so much water and then that helps to just like take the excess water out do you really do it once a week yeah i know that's very it's like a thing in brazil that you guys do once a week which is a big commitment but that's what the girl who was working on me i i go to josie

her brazilian lymphatic salon and she said the girls in brazil do like once or twice a week yeah i mean i wish i could do twice. No, it's not painful. It's nice. I mean, it's nice when they do it harder, but it's just for like the cellulite and the excess water. It's just, it makes you feel so much better. I think I need to get another one. And the problem is if you don't do it for three weeks, like at least me, like if I don't do it for three weeks, I go back to like zero again, like full on, so like back. And so it's something that I have to do every week. What are other wellness things that you do?

Do you play tennis? Are you cold? I play tennis on Saturdays with Dave sometimes. Just as a cute like couple thing and a little extra workout. But he doesn't like to play tennis with me. So I just force myself in. Why does he like to play tennis with me so I just force myself in why does he like to play because he's so competitive and I just like the look of things and I just like to rally like

in the skirt showing off your Brazilian butt workout exactly and then he just wants to like get the shot straight away I'm like stop it's so annoying any other wellness things that you swear by um wellness things oh it could be beauty too your eyebrows what do you do for eyebrows I don't touch them ah eyebrows I don't touch at all like no I just noticed that they were getting thinner and thinner and thinner and I was looking older so it's been maybe 10 years that i haven't touched them i clean the middle she's always sending me to get people to mess with my eyebrows leave me alone i just clean the middle part a boy this is difficult you just need a little a little you just need a little trim sometimes i will say since i became a dad sometimes i catch an eyebrow hair that is

like as long as the hair on my head and i I don't know what's going on. It's like literally. Sometimes I trim Dave's one too because it gets so long. I looked at one the other day and I was like, oh my God, I was ashamed of myself. It's not the vibe. How do you organize your time every day with everything you have going on during the day? Like, are you doing conference calls on a certain day? Are you doing your shoot? Like, how do you think about organizing? Yeah, I need to start organizing better because now my brain, it just works in every single direction. It's like, I go from emeralds to this fabric that this and that, because like I, my office now is behind the store. So then I do my design meetings for Rangel, my clothing brand in the back of the office, which is the store. So then if a client shows up, I have to come out, like if it's important to client and things like that.

So my brain is just going in like a lot of directions at the moment and I don't have an assistant. So I just have to focus on putting things on the calendar. So let's say we have a Zoom. I put it straight away in the calendar. If I have a kid staying that I have to show up to, I put in my calendar. So then I at least I organize my calendar so I can show up to things because otherwise I forget like my brain. I don't know if it happens to you, but my brain, it's really bad. Since the first baby,

it never came back. Like my memory is so bad. Yeah, he like, he asked me things and I'm like, huh? And he's like, you need to get it together. And I'm like,

I have scattered brain. That's what I call it. It's ADHD a little. No, you can't self-diagnose. She diagnoses herself with things. I think it's a mom thing. I think since like my first pregnancy, it started happening to me and then it never went back. What are your sort of important things that you think about when it comes to children? Meaning like, is there certain things that you really want to instill in your

girls? I think that it seems like you guys are both very entrepreneurial independent what are the things that you think about when it comes to raising kids the number one for me is manners for my kids i'm like the annoying mom they're like say thank you welcome like like everything and even like if you guys ever meet my kids they have to say may i please be excused from the table why are you going like this like i'm trying because i have a two-year-old to be so proper okay what am i supposed to do at what age did you start to know like maybe the four yeah five six like because when i was growing up i i remember i'd have to sit at the table you cannot put your elbows on the table you'd have to say may i be excused i haven't got to that. Well, I mean, my mom was a little crazy, but she was always like, there's a woman,

you stand up, you open the door, all those things you had to do. I think it's very important. And I think that kids don't have any manners anymore. Like my kids can sit in a fancy restaurant and talk in like low voice and not be throwing things up in the air. Like they know because that's how our life too, right? We constantly like hosting people, people coming over. So my daughters have to go up to them and be, hi, my name is Kaya.

Nice to meet you. Like they have to, because that's what's the consequence. I make them do it. So I bring them to the person and I'm like, and then look in the eyes always. They always have to look in the eyes's because kids nowadays they always look down or because they're so used to like the ipad or this and that i'm like no no look in the eyes you talk to people if someone asks you a question you have to answer it's not like you walk away no no i i bring them back and my second one she struggles a little bit more my My first one, she's got it now,

but the second one, she's a little more shy. So I say to her, at least be polite. Like you don't have to make a full conversation with a random person that walks in apartment,

but like at least be polite. When you guys went to Italy and you brought your kids, did you do screen time? So we did very minimal. we we already don't so this is a topic i hope my kids will never listen to this but i gave them ipads that don't work and i never charge them so like they never really work so if they play with something sometimes for five minutes then they get frustrated, it doesn't work.

It's like the Amazon little tablets. It's not even an iPad. So it's an Amazon tablet. And they can watch a little YouTube, but only if it's Ninja Kids, because they love Ninja Kids. Or if it's something that's like from the YouTube kids section,

not like normal YouTube. This is a huge debate on the podcast. It's been a topic because the way I think about it is this. Think about how hard it is to get a full grown adult off their phones and smart devices to get them to stop picking up every second.

Now think about a child who's got no context and doesn't have the discipline of an adult and you give them this thing and then you got to think about like what that's going to do them for the rest of their life and so i'm really against the idea of giving i understand parents need it as a tool once in a while yeah but i think this like jerk reaction just give it to them all the time it's really not doing i i don't like it at all and like even at

home they watched tv for 10 minutes before bed. They can't watch during the day. They can't watch on a Saturday afternoon. They got to play. Kids got to play. Like we were playing the whole time. We were like using our brains to like make up different games. Like those kids, they don't use their brains right now. And talking about the trip, we didn't really use it because they were playing the whole day.

The whole day, they wouldn't touch it. There was no iPad because I didn't really use it because they were playing the whole day the whole day they wouldn't touch it there was no ipad because i didn't charge and then at night time they were so tired so they would go straight to sleep i look at it like this i'm kind of in the middle of all of it i i use it as an absolute tool like when i need a tool meaning like say i'm on a conference call and my kids are like screaming and yelling i'm like okay i like i have to i have to let me pose this question 30 minutes let me ask you this do you think that you're then teaching them that when you get on a call that they can scream and then they can get the ipad for sure because kids are smart yeah i

just am curious about how people think about it because i i mean i'm a kind of a new mother a four-year-old and a two-year-old and I just think I like to know how other people think about it I think once in a while it's okay don't make it a routine yeah also don't make them expect it always like I I have some friends actually that will sit down at a dinner table with the kids and then they put the iPad straight away I'm like that kid didn't even ask for it and they're about to eat. Why do they have to watch TV while they eat? They can talk to us. Like even a two-year-old, like have conversations,

cute, like talk about the food, whatever it is. They also really appreciate that moment. My kids really like when we sit down with them, they eating and we're talking. There's no screen time during food. I think that means a lot coming from you because of what you guys do. You're probably eating out all the time. So that's why I wanted to ask you that question. I don't know why you're looking at me like that. It's

the right answer. So tell us about the organization that you're working with. I saw on here that you're doing some amazing things. Tell us your vice president. Tell us about that. So I, when I moved to Miami nine years ago, I asked David, I was like, what nonprofits do you work with? And he's like, I don't. I was like, we should look for one. And I, we started interviewing people from different organizations. And I found this girl, Rachel Russell. She started Style Saves by herself. She was helping around like 200 kids with just backpacks and school supplies. And then from that, we were having a conversation with her and we asked how many kids are homeless in Miami. And she said, according to the proper numbers, whatever, it's 10,000 kids.

So me and Dave, we look at each other and we're like, this is what we have to do. We have to get to 10,000 kids. And actually this year we helped 25,000 kids. So we went from 200 kids to 1,000 kids, 2,500, 5,000, 10,000, 15,000. And now we're up to 25,000. And every year we put it on our website, the registration. Kids, the parents go, they register the kids. We need all the information about them. And then after two days, we have to close down the registration because we have so many of them now.

And then they come to an amazing event. So we throw like a party. So we have bounce houses. We have haircuts. We have nails, face paints, like everything that you can imagine on a proper like party. And then they come and they collect backpacks school supplies uniforms sneakers socks everything that they need and extra so like belts and like we have extra clothes for the parents we have a whole bunch of activities so we just like to make it in a fun event and we don't want them to feel

like it's a charity event that they just getting things donated so we manufacture everything as well that's so cool i love that it's really a lot so it's been nine years wow I've been with them that's really really cool I saw that on here I was like that's so awesome tell us about the piece of jewelry that we need to get if we're going to get one piece from your collection tell us about what you're working on with your clothing line you just gifted me the cutest pair of like baby teal pants. Yeah. So that's my can pants. It's called the can pants.

And that's like one of the first pants that I made. But I just first one I made in black and then it sold out. So then I made it in blue now. And I just love that pen because it's easy to wear. It's like you just put it on and with a t-shirt like you said it's easy and then you still look very chic I'm working on two collections right now for Rangel so like clothing is is harder because you have to put in together a whole collection 36 items at least like minimum and then you I've been growing my wholesale a lot. So then I have to present it to wholesale, put in production.

And that's for like next year. So everything has to be like very far behind. And then it's like, takes a long time. And then that's rainbow. And then for the jewelry is a little bit easier because I can just go with my flow and be like, hey, I want to make an owl necklace and then I make one piece and then I put it out sell and then I can make another one if I want or if not like I make a parrot or something else so one item that I really love for my brand is the

mom ring I don't know if you saw that but so I have a ring that says mom and I was gonna bring it to you but it got sold out I did see that ring actually yeah I didn't know that that's what that was called so cute yeah it's called the mom ring so it got sold out last week because uh Hayley posted it and it went crazy so that's a great person to post it and And she just became a mom. And like a new mom. Yeah, so cute. And I was like, that's so cute. So like everybody that buys the mom ring, I say, welcome to the mom club. It's really cute. It's diamonds, right?

On gold? It's diamonds and it's all solid gold. So all my jewelry is solid gold because I want like people to put it on and never take it off. Like you said, like put it on, becomes part of yourself. And that's a very special piece to me because i think my main job is i'm a mom what is the one

that you gave me called that's the marquee the marquee that's yeah that's the marquee diamond um layer bow ring i'm obsessed with this because i love how you can layer it or you don't have to i like yeah it's versatile it's such a little like delicate touch. I love that ring. Okay. Isabella gave us a code. You guys can use code skinny for 15% off the jewelry line. And it's izagroupman.com.

And then 30% off. That is so nice. You guys, shop r-a-n-g-e-l.com. Yes. You have to check out the pants. she just gifted me and she said she's gonna do a giveaway so are they baby teal yeah it's like a blue i call it blue i think on the website okay she's gonna give away the blue pants in one of your sizes all you have to do is follow her on instagram tell us your instagram isabella gruttman okay you have to tell us what's what's in that bag

by the way i i hope you're taking notes on that because i like that size you came in here by the way 35 is the best you came in here and i said this is going to be an expensive show for me normally normally these shows make me money i feel like this one's gonna cost me some listen it's like i give it out it's like i gave her everything um okay so what's in my bag she's gonna see and she's like i need this and i need that i got in japan's a vintage one beautiful but i i need a black one i realized because i was like on the airport you need every color that's cool every color but also i was walking around on the plane and i i flew a car economy like all the way on the back so i'm like i'm that girl on

the birkin bag going all the way back on the plane i mean but the flight from miami to here is easy sometimes i get on the 6 30 flight on american and then i get to the beach in miami at like 9 or 10 a.m yeah it's so easy no it was perfect i woke up in a normal time and I show up. Okay, so what's in my bag? I have the Beats by Jure Kim Kardashian earphones. She actually gave it to my husband, but I stole it. So thanks, Kim, for giving out today. I have a notebook because my brain doesn't work so well. So I have to write everything down. I have an iPadad because i wanted

to start watching a show the perfect couple i just started pretty good that's pretty good and then i i need to start this book i just finished one yesterday that's a very good book is it yeah okay great no i thought that said the handmade never mind sorry no housemate is watching the handmade is it like a thriller i haven't started because i was watching the series but i'm i need to start today then i have a bag with makeup because i did my makeup myself today in the airport wow quick quick i have an igk good behavior have you tried this it's so good igk good behavior smoothing spray because i knew the frizz would be crazy i also did a little CBD Highline because I was like,

I don't know how I'm going to feel when I get here. And then just some makeup. Okay, this is like Victoria Beckham lip gloss, obviously. And then I have something interesting here, actually, that I just bought. I bought this little brush that is electric brush. Have you seen this before? So it warms up and you just like. Oh, it's probably good for hair growth, huh? I don't know if it's good. It's like kind of warm. It's probably not good for your hair, but.

It's kind of nice, Lauren. It's nice because I arrived and I was just like brushing. It looks like I did a blowout. So it works. And then it's the bag that Michael has to buy you. I would like a 35. The 35 is nice. You can carry all your stuff. Yeah. I like how she like uses it too, like on a flight. You know what I mean?

It's just like casual. And you throw it. Like you just. Yeah, you can throw it around. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. Okay.

Well, our anniversary is coming up, bitch. So you better take notes. Okay. Thank you for coming on, Isabella. Thank you, guys. You're so cute. That was so much fun. I've wanted to have you on for a very long time. our anniversary is coming up bitch so you better okay thank you for coming on is thank you guys you're so cute that was so much fun i've wanted to have you on for a very long time and thank you for making the trip economy with the birkin in the back next time when we come out to my we would do it in miami we just gotta get a studio

hey listen listen i made it and i'm here she's here like that flight is easy it was easy it was easy i i watched like three episodes and was like oh this is great and also i like the quiet time like without nobody bothering me the way i think about flights now i mean i don't like the airports the airport's the worst part but when you're on the flight, it's nice especially with kids, you just get to give it a moment to yourself. So relaxing. It was great. It's like you get one second to just relax. Breathe. And then I have like three more

hours on the way back. I can't wait. It's kind of relaxing. The flights wouldn't be bad if it wasn't for the airports. I got a little bone to pick with the way they operate these airports. Which skinny confidential products should I give you? I think you need the lymphatic brush i need that and then can you also give me the one that the ice thing that's cold yeah do you have that yeah i need that and i'm gonna have you ever tried mouth taping no i never tried it should i i love it because i see you always talk about it

so i need to try it's my favorite beauty tip okay i'll try it yeah i'm gonna give you a couple different goodies thank you so much for coming on thank you for my ring and my bathing suit next time we'll do miami dinner miami dinner okay for sure it doesn't take much to convince us to go over there yeah we like it over there we do i could live there but that's a different story with my 35 you can use code skinny for 15 off is a grutman.com. And she also gave you a 30% off at shop wrangle.com. The pants I got are so cute. They're the blue ones. They're kind of baggy, but they're super flattering and definitely go check out the ring that I got. There's so many pretty jewels on her site. That's is a grutman.com and shop wrangle.com code skinny.