The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Jeffree Star Unfiltered Uncensored Speaking His Truth Redefining Success On His Own Terms

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

#908: Join us as we sit down with Jeffree Star — entrepreneur, beauty mogul, and founder of Jeffree Star Cosmetics. Known for his unapologetic honesty and massive influence, Jeffree has built one of the most powerful creator-led empires in modern beauty. In this rare and unfiltered conversation, he opens up about building his brand from the ground up, navigating fame and cancel culture, moving to Wyoming, and what life is really like today on his iconic Yak Star Ranch. Jeffree also shares raw insights on business, reinvention, and why living authentically — no matter what — is his ultimate success story. To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Jeffree Star click HERE   To connect with Jeffree Star Cosmetics click HERE    To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   To Shop Jeffree Star Cosmetics visit http://JeffreeStarCosmetics.com and use code SKINNY for 20% off.    This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Wear with intention. Wake up with ambition. Shop The Skinny Confidential's latest drop - The Fall Edit, featuring Uniform and Blanc. The limited-edition Mouth Tape made for those who take their beauty sleep seriously. Available now at https://bit.ly/TSC-NEWNEW.   This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to http://armra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 30% off your first subscription order.   This episode is sponsored by Minted Bring your traditions to life with independent art and design this holiday season. Use code SKINNY for 20% off Minted Holiday Cards, Gifts and Wrapping Paper at http://Minted.com.   This episode is sponsored by Cotton Cotton is The Fabric of Our Lives. Learn more at http://TheFabricOfOurLives.com.   This episode is sponsored by Beekeepers Naturals Go to http://beekeepersnaturals.com/SKINNY or enter code SKINNY to get 30% off sitewide!    This episode is sponsored by Caraway Visit http://Carawayhome.com/SKINNYPOD to take advantage of this limited-time offer for up to 20% off your next purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Kendra Scott Visit http://kendrascott.com/gifts to start shopping!   This episode is sponsored by Willie's Remedy+ Order now at http://drinkwillies.com and use code SKINNY for 20% off of your first order + free shipping on orders over $95, and enjoy life in the high country.   Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

You're raising yaks? We're raising yaks. We're raising camels now. I added camels two years ago. They're the coolest creatures. But I'm still the queen of beauty. And of course, I had to bring you a pink box. If I showed up empty-handed, I hope you would slap me.

There's a lot here. Okay. Let's go through it. Let's see what we got, y'all. There's even skincare for men. Okay? You love a nice anti-aging moment. Men should be hydrated.

No one wants to fuck on a dry skin. No one wants to sit on a face that's dry. Let me tell you that. I don't want to have a dry face. You want to stay married. You got to be moisturized. Okay. She can be sliding all over this thing.

Yeah, so this is my famous magic star hydrating moisturizer. Really great for men, anybody can use this. It's a nice every day. The packaging, too, is major. Oh, give me that scissors again. Because this, when you see the inside, it makes the box look like, you know, boring. And I was going through your orgy palette. Isn't it fun?

Michael, he has an orgy palette. It's an orgy of neutrals. So, you know, neutrals are browns are. browns, tans and dark browns, so anybody, any complexion could wear it. Okay, ready for this? I'm ready. When I created my first ever moisturizer, I was like, this has to be fucking baller, okay? Hi.

Wow. Isn't she stunning? Wait, that is so my aesthetic. Isn't it pretty? Oh my goodness. Yeah. That is so cute. Really, really great.

Really great active ingredients, too. Like, it actually works. I would never create something that was just for show, you know? We know that. With how you review brands, we know it's going to be amazing. Cut throat. Yep. Cut throat.

So he has this orgy palette and it's like I was reading the names. Can you give my husband some of the names? I have two. So there's orggy one and now there's orgy two. Okay. Some of the names are top and bottom. Okay. Why did you look to him?

I want to see. I want to see his reaction. Do you know what a Colorado campfire is? I do not. Really? What is it? Wait, tell me now. Can you look up on an urban dictionary?

because you're gonna say it out loud. Not me. No, that's so vanilla. You're so boring. You're so boring. You do look like you like rusty anchors though. Okay, so urban dictionary, sir. Stuffing, not suffering.

Let's read the words correctly. No one's suffering here. Stuffing a marshmallow. It's the act of a girl's asshole and then proceeding to fuck the marshmallow deeply inside her like one was floating in old Civil War musket. Oh, period.

And keep going, you're not done. Upon finishing the size of the vessel, the female is asked to evacuate the contents upon two eagerly waiting grand crackers. It is considered rude if the cracker is not consumed afterwards. Is this really true? Are people really doing this Colorado campfire? Yeah. But in my palate, it's a beautiful, warm tone brown. It's stunning.

It's perfect for the crease, honestly. And your makeup is very gorgeous. I think you would love the Orgy palettes. Yeah. So this is very skis. skincare centric. We got some really great. My eyebrow pencils just launched. They're phenomenal. The brow designer. I shaved off my eyebrows in 10th grade and I never grew them back until three years ago. So these are all, this is just naturally grown back just so I could perfect a formula. Because I felt like if I was going to create a pencil and I don't have eyebrows, that's fake. So I grew them back for the first time in my entire life. And I've kept them for a while. And we've developed some really cool brow products. Why did you shave your eyebrows off? I wanted more room. Okay. Like when I was doing my eye shadow, I felt like I was being restricted.

Oh. So I shaved them off and I never went, never turned to turn back. So you complain about not having enough room. Maybe you should shave your eyebrows off. I think I, I don't think I pull that off. Okay. Well, I was with Terry Debrough yesterday and he said, just leave it. He said, I would not look good.

Okay. All right. Yeah, shaving could be scary. And then lip liners. I brought my top selling lip liners for you. They're really, really great. Packaging on point. Okay.

Always. Hi. Look how pretty she is. Packaging is so... Isn't it gorgeous? This is celebrity skin. You can tell you're really hands-on with like no white label situation. Ever.

Oh my gosh. No. These are made in Czech Republic. I love traveling the world and making things in other places. These are made in Korea. And then, hello, the Vans Warp Tour. Speaking of, we did a collaboration with them this summer. So this is sunscreen.

Invisible, scentless, and blurring the pores. Really great for guys, anybody that just needs a little moment. But yeah, really great for under the makeup. Thank you for all these. presence in your beautiful pink box. That is so nice of you. Lips scrubs. You've got your pink shoes on.

All of it. It's just perfect. You guys really should go watch this episode on YouTube. It's a very visual one, I think. I'm very visually stimulating. I feel like I could do a one piece on this show like this. Is that on camera? What if I upgraded my wardrobe to a one piece one time?

Oh, no. This is it on camera. Nothing on the table. I'm screaming. Okay. Okay. So I wanted you to come on this show because I want people to understand how entrepreneurial you are and how in the business you are. Because sometimes I don't know if you could see it through TikTok. It's hard.

Yeah. I'm very business obsessed and TikTok and the way people view content is very quick nowadays. Right. It's very interesting how we've changed as a culture. And you started YouTube when you were 10th grade? Mm-mm. I went on the internet for the very first time. I would say YouTube like 12, well, like 2009.

So here's the thing. I started a YouTube channel. I didn't utilize it like I did later when beauty started. I was like filming funny blogs. We had like, you know, the camcorders and you had to do the SD card and upload. And it was just such a different time. So I would upload funny little skits and random little things and music videos when I was doing music. But I didn't take it serious until beauty exploded on YouTube and I started my brand.

So Jeffrey Star Cosmetics. I started in 2014 on Black Friday. I said, let's go big. And then the beauty gurus and those type of people started forming. And there was Candy Johnson and Michelle Fawn. And I was like, oh, this is a whole new world. I need to dominate it. And MySpace was, you know, obviously dwindling and things were just so different.

So we hopped over on YouTube for 10 years, got billions of views, and then I quit. Where was the entrepreneurial sort of like bug turned on? How old? Oh, really, really young. Like I always was helping people make money better or help with their business, whether they were, because I moved to L.A. at 17 and a half. Isn't that wild? And I started doing makeup on celebrities at 19.

I was working at the Mac store. I worked for Kelly Osborne, Paris Hill and all those people. So you knew that there was like a business boss in you, when you say you helped people make money, what do you mean by that? How did you even know at that age? I just had it. I feel like it was like insane. still in me to just like be a hustler. And I come from a very rough background and like no money. My mom was a single mom. You know, we grew up very poor. She was an alcoholic. So I never had any other opportunities as a lot of other people, you know, in Huntington Beach area. Not that everyone was wealthy, but, you know, a lot of people had it more figured out than me. So I just had to learn to hustle. So when I moved and I started hanging around people and people that were doing things, it was really inspiring. And I would love to, you know, someone would tell me their idea and I would just give them better advice.

And so you were like kind of like thinking from a business perspective at a young age, but you almost didn't know you had it until you were around the people that were business minded. Exactly. So that's a great way of putting it. When you when you start on YouTube, did you look at it as a business or did you look at it that you wanted to put yourself out there? I saw it as a business and I saw what the other girls were doing and I was like, oh, I could do this better, honestly. And I don't mean that in a caddy way. I was just like I have I think my story is more interesting. I think there's more to do, you know, and a lot of them were staying in their one lane,

like, transformations, and that's fine. You know, a lot of those videos were massive back in the day before it got really saturated, you know? Yeah. So what was the story you were telling about yourself in the early days to get, to even stand out in the beginning when you did. Like, why did you think that you could tell a better story than the girls at the time? I just feel like I was more interesting.

Well, you're definitely interesting. That's for sure. With looks and my wit. Okay. Yeah. But I just wonder, like, when you first came out and started sharing your life, like, what was the hook that you felt got people to connect with you? Oh, that's a great. That's a great question. So I, back in the day, it's so weird to see now, I never showed myself without makeup. So I had,

and I think a lot of people that are newer viewers or watches or customers, they don't know that about me. So from MySpace until about 2014, I never let anyone see me without makeup. No one ever. Not one picture, never. And if I went out, I'd have these, you know, massive sunglasses, hoodies, like I never let anyone see me bare face. It was like my mystique. And I also was very like bitch face, like posh spice. I never smiled in any picture. So even if I was happy, it was all, you know, it was all for show.

So anytime there was cameras around, that was the face, every picture. So you had, you, to your inner, you're like that. I even gave you the face. So when I joined YouTube, my, my whole thing was, people have to watch this episode. They have to. Yeah. Yeah, if you're listening to this in the car. This is a visual episode.

Hi. Hi. Go listen on YouTube. Hi, how are you? I'm pregnant. So, yeah, I think that it was really cool for people. They see a little bit more behind the curtain. So I met this random guy.

His name was Christian, and he filmed my entire YouTube channel for 10 years. We met through his ex-wife, who was a beauty influencer at the time. And I was like, I want to try YouTube. Like, these other people are doing it. I have a brand now. Like, this is, I think my, I think I'm made for this. So the first thing we did was shoot me with no makeup on. So it was such a like, holy shit.

Not that I'm like hideous or anything. My bucket's skin legs are real good. But it was just like the shock value of like you're not seeing the drawn on eyebrows, the crazy everything. So I was just there barefaced. Hi. I resurrected my channel. So it was just sat there for years dormant. So I opened her up again, logged in and uploaded my first beauty video and the rest was history.

Why do you think that you resignate so much with people? Like, what is the secret sauce? I think just being yourself, which sounds so simple, but so many people, especially nowadays with the social media world, they're putting on an act, they're putting on a show, they're lying about everything. And I think when people discover it, because they're not good liars, people are very disappointed. So I think for me, I've just never not, I'm always been myself. Have you been like that since you were little?

Yeah. You're just always like what you see is what you get tap dancing. I'm an overshare. take it alert. Yeah. You know what else I think it is of the limited, you know, interactions we've now had together quickly.

Is that, I feel like you're completely yourself without any regard of people like how you are or not how you are with also no pressure on anyone else on how they choose to live. That part. Absolutely.

Yes. And it's refreshing. It's like, ah. Yes. Because I miss the days when we would all be able to sit down as a collective, whoever it was. and all respect each other.

Doesn't matter your religion. Doesn't matter what you believe in. We could all break bread, have dinner, have healthy conversations, and be friends. Nowadays, it's like, oh, well, you don't like what I like. I'm blocking you. I hate you, or you're wrong. And it's just like, I don't know how we got here as a society. It's very interesting.

It's weird. I mean, we're all, don't Google this. We're all around the same age, right? And that's the, but that's the world we all came from. It's like it was not uncommon to be around many people that you disagreed with and still have great relations with them. Exactly. It just didn't matter.

did now it's very interesting how people get very you like this about politics or you believe this about sexuality then you're then we can't be friends it's a very weird world we live in nowadays well i didn't i didn't want to jump into this right away but let's jump i was gonna i was gonna tell you so i we obviously pierce has been on the show i think he's great we saw you on his show after charlie i thought you were great i thought it was a very human moment i thought it was very vulnerable moment yeah we were recording that day when we saw that it fucked me up. Like I can even talking about it, it might fuck me up again. Like just the, just the thought of like that happening. And she was like, what's wrong? She didn't see it at the time because we found it.

No, I didn't see it on purpose. We were doing something like this with someone. And I was like really distracted and disheveled about it. And not for any other bias other than like somebody lost their life for just sharing an opinion. And I thought the way you said it. And the fact that people could come out and be cheerful or happy about that and not even see the human side. I think like we've got we got to back to that place where people just recognize life in general. I think it's the phones. I think it's made people, I don't know, I'm dead inside. It's very weird.

You think because I was live streaming. I don't know. It's just, and it's the culture of being on their phones all day long, not having enough human interaction. No one goes and plays outside. It's like, you know what I mean? So I was live streaming on TikTok and I was about to do a big shopping live and sell products and do a whole QVC, we call it JVC now, moment.

And my whole chat started like spamming things and I was like, what are you all talking about? What's going on? And it was like in real time, us all finding out. And it was just I couldn't do the I couldn't do the shopping live. I sat there. I cried off camera. I went on a full rant. And I just organically reacted to someone that I respected.

Did I agree with all his opinions? No, no one agrees with anyone's opinions like that. It's mine, yours, anybody. But I respected a lot of what he stood for. and he loved freedom of speech. And to be taken out because you have an opinion is so scary. Because I saw myself in that light of like, well, I'm very outspoken. You know, like, that's crazy.

He has so much influence. They wanted to take him out. So I'm finding out while I'm streaming. It was awful. And did you get, you got upset because of some of the reactions in your chat? Yes. After it was fully found out. Because first it was like someone got shot and then it was like Charlie passed away.

And I was just like, it was just like, it was. just so devastating. So in that moment, people, well, my chat is very like, they kind of think like me or they, you know, they agree and they have feelings. I think later that day and the next day is when all the people, and I think a lot of people, they troll, unfortunately. Yeah. They're just sitting in their, you know, in their house miserable and they're just like, you know, it's like that catfish lady that was texting her daughter for two years. I mean, don't get me started on that. Can you imagine? What do you mean? What was she doing? I don't know this story. Oh my God. She was pretending to be. A high school catfish. Well, I know about catfishers, but... So, well, this is the recent Netflix documentary,

and for two years, this high schooler and her ex-boyfriend now and her friends were getting texts from like a WhatsApp or something where you could always text someone, some weird app. And years later, the FBI finally got involved. We're talking like thousands a day, like the most craziest shit. It was her own mother. It almost seemed, and I don't know enough about the story, that like her mother was like, her because of her mother's own insecurities and she was like projecting it onto the daughter. She was jealous or something. Really dark stuff.

Really dark stuff. So you don't you don't picture this random, you know, lady that looks like a normal, like mom doing this on the side. So I feel like when, when I know there's people that really are vicious and say crazy things about Charlie and they're horrible people. But I also think there's a lot of bored people that just like they want a reaction. So they just say whatever and they're just hiding behind their phone and it's just so different. It's just fucked up, honestly. They're also sometimes maybe with you, whenever I see comments, it's like they almost want your acknowledgement.

They do. It's like when you, if you respond, they almost like back down and like say like, thank you or like, oh, I love like it's like a different shift. Do you notice that? Yeah. So on TikTok, when you're solo live, you can add people in what they call boxes. Yeah. So like a couple times if someone says something really crazy, I'll click it to invite them in to go live with me. And they have.

And like people that say crazy, horrible things to me. Oh, I just wanted your attention. Can we cuss on here? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Okay. You could say whatever you want.

We've already talked about the, what was it called? The Colorado. Oh, yeah, I forgot. But like, but imagine, I'm about to say something. But, like, imagine you're in my chat and you're like, you fucking ugly faggot. And then I invite you up and you're like, I just wanted your attention. So you wanted to call me the Fsler? And then what are they doing in the chat when you bring them in?

They're just sitting there like a deer in headlights. Oh, I just wanted your attention. Like, I got it. Like, you're great. And I'm like, what? That's new. Like, that did not exist in the older social media days. So it's just a really weird time.

Yeah, the internet early days was like a pretty supportive place or else you were just not really following somebody. Like you didn't intentionally go to troll people in the early days. Now those people that follow me in every, I go live and in 30 seconds, they're like, ah, la, and I'm just like, okay. Does anything phase you at this point or has it been Chinese torture and you're just like it doesn't even matter? It feels like nothing. Like nothing. Yeah. But I like to clap back and be funny when I'm in the mood.

Okay. And people love my sarcastic wit and my jokes and shit. So I think it's funny. You are very witty. Thank you. So nothing, nothing, like, affects you. Have you had to, like, build that muscle? It never really, I just never really cared for some reason.

And it started kind of like in high school. I woke up one day. And it was just, like, almost like this new click, like, in the, in the cogs. It was just, like, my brain evaporated the feelings of, like, really caring. Because, you know, Orange County is a different place. And I grew up very, you know, like punk rock and goth and huge shoes and Mohawks. and, you know, I dive my hair pink in 11th grade. I shaved my eyebrows off.

And I grew up with all those kids. So from my kindergarten to 12, we all knew each other. So luckily, I am probably one of the only people that looks like me that has never been bullied. I was never really bullied at all. I always stuck up for myself. And if someone tried me, I'd get vicious back. I used to love fighting. I feel like Orange County is more of accepting of the, yeah, and people in Orange County can, people, but not Mara.

It was different now. Yeah, but then, I remember, you got to be careful up there sometimes. It was different times, yeah. You never got picked on. Not really, but like when I would walk down the street before social media was big, people would roll down their car windows, you fucking freak. And like, no one does that anymore. You're going to get, I'm going to get shot.

But like the old days before they could tell you about that on the phone, they would scream, you know, weird things at me. And I was like, whatever, spare me. What was the moment that you realized that you could build a massive business around all of this? And what were the steps that you took to build that and start that? I think the first one was just taking a risk on myself. And like a lot of people don't know that I come from the music world.

Like I started being a makeup artist for famous people. And then as a kind of like a joke, I made a couple of songs with this band called Hollywood Undead. And then I was like, oh, I'm going to make my own. So I kind of did it in like a silly, funny way, never knowing what was going to happen. Uploaded some songs. It got so big.

And fast forward to almost 10 years of my life, touring the world, Europe, Australia, everywhere, all over America, over and over, got getting, you know, gotten to experience life, you know, and it's such a different way, playing punk rock shows, being on the Vans Warp Tour, playing all these cool things. And then it hit a ceiling where it wasn't what I wanted. Finally, and my gut was like, we need to go back to our first passion and that's makeup. And I couldn't imagine being so well-known on social media, like going to work at the mall. Oh, hell no, that was not acceptable.

I was like, damn, I'm going to quit music. And I was like sitting in my little apartment in NoHo broke as fuck with me and my dog, not, you know, eating ramen. And I had a little bit of money left. And I found someone who respected me enough to lend me the rest of the money. And I started this dream with three liquid lipsticks and a hope that it might work. So to answer your question, I didn't know it was going to be like this ever. But when it started and I hit that button on Black Friday 2014 and it sold out in five minutes and I paid the dudes that, you know, that invested the money in an hour, I knew there was a bigger picture. And then when YouTube really started popping off and the brand was like really growing so quick lightning in a bottle, I was like, this is it.

Like this is my fucking dream and I never held back. For people that don't know how gnarly your business is, take us. behind the scenes of the infrastructure now. Okay. It's wild. And like what sense? Because there's so many aspects of cosmetics. I mean, even just the scale of the stuff.

I think I'm interested in like the behind the scenes. Like, what is your team like? Like, what, what does it take to run the machine of Jeffrey Starr? It's been a crazy 10 years, 11 years now. In November, it's 11 years. It's just finding the right people. So like you see Mark here, we met at the band's Warp Tour. He used to tour manage bands and work for records.

labels and then a merch company that I later invested in he was working for and my business partner was like hey we're going to you know because we had to ship the product somewhere and we from day one we're like well we want to make as much money as possible and do the business right so a lot of brands have a random you know pick and pack place ship their orders we create our own so we made money off of every package we sent so killer merch you know was a little thing and it turned into this massive And there's so many clients now from rock musicians to MMA to comedians, you know, to me. So Kila Merch is the is the pick and pack. What's been the biggest bump for you?

Like where have you noticed the biggest growth or has it been slowly? That's a good one. The biggest, well, the growth was really rapid because of YouTube and life. You had content marketed for so long and people had fallen in love with you. So it was almost like they invested in your journey. They invested in you. So anything you launched, they wanted to buy. And it was a great time for liquid lipsticks.

Everyone has one now. Back then, there was three brands. It was like Stila, Lyme Crime, and Cat Von D. So when I came out with my formula, it was superior to all of those competitors. And it was just lightning in a bottle. It went everywhere. And I'll never forget my website. It was me laying in a pink coffin with the top open, me staring up.

And it said, makeup, you're going to die for. and that was the splash page to put in your email address and no one knew what was happening and then I launched three colors, red rum, prom night, and I'm royalty, three shades.

And I was on the Vans Warp Tour selling T-shirts trying to make money to pay my rent and testing colors and formulas and it was just like, so when it happened and it sold out so quickly, the first bump was, oh, well, if you want to reorder cosmetics,

it's going to take months. You're not going to be able to restock that in a week. And I'm like, oh, So the growing pains were almost instant, which is kind of rare. So it's almost like you scaled the first day you launched so you had to learn how to scale immediately. Yes. That's like a great lesson though. It's like it ripped the band-a-off.

Yes. And my advice to anyone that wants to be an entrepreneur is invest in yourself. So even though I was dirt broke and had almost nothing, the first million, the first two million, we put right back into the business. You know what I mean? I think a lot of people, they get newly rich. And I know people watching me, be like, like a million dollars. is not a lot of money. If you're currently broke and miserable and you're going through it, you're going to be like, fuck you, Jeffrey. I was there. I had literally nothing. And it's hard to say

that. But in a big business, it's really not. So a lot of these influencers and people nowadays, they take their quick little money. They spend it all. They're not investing correctly. They don't have the right team. And they have a Lambo and then they're broken six months. And you're like, oh, well, did you need that car? Because you didn't have that car six months ago. So I invested into the brand, created 150 liquid lipsticks, you know, and I just kept making new categories of things that I loved. I've never created something for the customer. I create things for me and the customer. Because if I don't love it, how are y'all going to love it? How did you get so savvy with money? You're savvy with money. Having a great business partner. So is it something that you...

And learning from someone who is older. He is 30. No, 20. Oh my God. I'm trying to do the math in my head. I'm he's 20 years older than me. Got it. Did you live extravagantly at all before or have you always been careful with money? So it was it was fake it to you make it in the Myspace world. So living in LA, I'd go to my rich friends mansions and take pictures and, you know, I worked for Kelly Osborne and I'm so sorry for listening, but I used to steal her clothes. Yeah, I really did. I don't think she, she never noticed.

So, yeah. Yeah, I did. I did. One of my famous MySpace photos is in her stolen Chanel jacket. I'm so sorry. Yeah. I think she'll forgive you now. I'll pay you back.

I have it now. So yes, it's bizarre. But yeah, it is bizarre. And, you know, in like a, let's say, like a five-year span to go from having $500 to $200 million. You know, it's very interesting. That's bizarre. That's bizarre. Can you walk us through that for people?

That's unique. Oh shit. It is. Yeah, it is. Talk us through that. Now, what is that like? In what way? Like, what is obviously, so here's the trip.

I mean, like how you manage that shift. That's a big shift. Well, the problem with me is I'm such a Scorpio and I'm such a like, I move on really quickly from things. So do. I love that. I love it. I love to move on quick.

It's all in the recovery. But no one wants to hear this right now, but I got to be honest. When I started to become very wealthy, I bought everything I ever wanted. Was bored. That's a common story. Yes. And that segues into years of trying to prove myself to me and my audience that I made it. So I bought the biggest house in Hidden Hills, bigger house and all the celebrities.

I did everything I thought I wanted to fill the void of the childhood, the trauma that I hadn't fully dealt with. And no matter how many designer clothes and diamonds and cars you buy, it's all just fucking material. materialistic shit. And there you are. So I hit this point. You look at your face. You're still there. It's even all the stuff. You have to deal with all that stuff. So the pandemic happens and I'm sitting in a 25,000 square foot home and I'm bored. And the house is, I don't know. To me, it wasn't too big, but like anyone listening would be like rolling their fucking eyes. I totally get it. But like I had a movie theater and a fucking two story gym. And when you're busy still keeping that business and making it all work. I used the movie theater like four times in two years. Like it's it's not what people think. I mean, I wasn't married. I don't have kids. I'm not sitting here bored at home trying to be a housewife.

You know what I mean? So I was too busy to fully enjoy it. And then the pandemic put a halt on all of our lives, right? Right. Six feet apart. That was a lie, by the way. That was a full lie. Yes.

I'm glad that was exposed. Oh, my God. Literally a full lie. My husband's dying. You've come to the right place. It's a fact, though. He just loves colorful people. Let's stay away so we can all keep eating sick.

This man loves the personality. Like, there is nothing that this man loves more. I hate people that just are to say, oh, it happened. Yeah, I'm like, what do you mean to happen? We are in the setup. The government set us the fuck up. What do you mean? Go ahead.

They almost got us. They were close. They did. They almost got us. And then we all rioted and got bored. Yeah. Hello? How long were you going to keep us in?

I mean, listen, we did we did leave to Texas, Wyoming. Like, he's made to get the hell out. Okay, so go on. You're in the pandemic. You're in this. This is like seven, eight years into my brand. I've made so much money I bought and everything I ever wanted. I've been to every trip, every city.

And I love traveling and I love people and I love meeting new people. I love eating new food and stuff. And traveling is probably the most rewarding of being successful. That's my thing. Use your money to travel and experience life. That's a good tip. What is 25 cars going to do? Not the things.

Not the material things. You know, it's nice to have nice things when you have nothing. But I started to just see things different. and my brain was developing different. I saw things for really what it was. And I was just fed up with it all. I was so tired of L.A. I was burnt out and they trapped us indoors.

So when that was starting to really happen, my gut was like, well, this plan of moving away should happen now versus in another 10 years. My plan was like, I'll be like 50 and live on a little farm and have a little, you know, whatever and just be away from everyone. My brain was like, now. How did you decide on Casper, Wyoming? Every local asked me this. Well, not that it doesn't look amazing over there.

The locals are like, oh my God, this is amazing. How have the locals embraced you? They have. I bet they have. I bet they have. Day, a couple months in, oh, you're going to bring all your L.A. garbage here. And I'm like, what does that even mean? You don't even know anything about me?

You don't know what I believe in. My political beliefs. You don't know anything about me. I just look like this. And I'm bringing the bullshit. The same, this, always. I flew on on a private jet with the 6'7 basketball player and my assistant and dogs and everybody. And we just looked through it.

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damn, Alaska is so pretty. I've been there several times. My first time seeing the Northern Lights was there. So cute. It's cold, though, right? Yeah. Wyoming's freezing, but Alaska's another love. Okay. Okay. Yeah, Wyoming's north. It gets cold. Yeah. So I was entertaining. a couple places, but I still wanted to be relatively closer to L.A. I was like, ooh, my favorite author is Stephen King. I was like, maybe I want to move to Maine. Let's get really weird. Why has he stayed there forever? I like Stephen King. He also lost it a little bit during the pandemic. Yeah, I think because I like his book so much, I'm going to glaze over that and not care. Yeah, and he said some, he said some dumb shit about-shed-you-up, double-masked you up. He said some dumb shit about Charlie and then was

wrong about it. And I'm like, God, you're just such a cool writer. Why are you even, ugh, whatever. But yeah, I'll always be a fan. I have red rum tattooed on my stomach. Hello. You know what I mean? Hi. Do you know what that's from? It's from Psycho?

Yep. Is it? We're done. Is it? We're leaving. No, no. Wait, what's it from? You guys? No, it's the shining.

Oh my God. Sorry. Yeah, the shining. I forgot. I forgot. He was so confidently wrong. He's like, hey, that's my whole life with ignorance and confidence. Okay.

So red rum is from the shining. The shining. I own the word now. You own the word. You bought the word. Why don't you do like a makeup palette called red rum, different reds? Red rum lipstick, red rum lip liner, red rum gloss. You're 20 steps ahead of it.

Okay, go back to you. You're in Wyoming, Cass for Wyoming. Yeah, and I see the town. And the thing is, is like, I hired a realtor and she showed me ranches and properties outside of town. So I'm like, I like the little town. It's cute. There's 60,000 people. So different than 9 million folks here.

right? And I loved how sweet everyone was. I went to a couple other states. And like, if people haven't traveled, every state has their own personality. They really do. And Wyomingites are so giving and sweet. Like if you were on the side of the road needing a tire changed, three people are going to stop for you. Here, they're going to flip you off because you're in the way. Right. They really care, like in their gut. And they don't want anything from you. Like, oh, there's a damsel in distress. I'm pulling over. I'm going to help her. And then I'm going to go home to my family. It's refreshing. It's really cool and people cared and it was more like, how are you doing today versus here? What do you do? How can I use you? What do y'all do?

You look cute. And you're like, oh my god, is there any real people here? This city is a bunch of stepping stone idiots where Wyoming was like, how are you today? I hadn't been asked how I was in like 10 years almost. It was disorienting. I was like, how do you mean? I was like, I don't know. How are you? How you did to me? When you move in, the town embraced you? At first, they were a little apprehensive. Right. I think they obviously saw what I looked like.

And a lot of people, you know, they don't fully get it or they didn't know what I was about. And I kept to myself and I invested into the community and I, you know, I donated to a lot for charity not because of any other reason because I saw a town that I appreciated. So after a couple months of being there, I started meeting a lot of the locals and the mayor and things like that. And I'm like, I really like this town. And to me, Wyoming was going to be like just a getaway. I was still going to live in L.A. and do my thing. And then I really fell in love with the ranch. And then the neighbors sold me all their property.

Thanks. And I have no neighbors, really. There's like a couple houses to the left. And it's just all land. I'm at the base of Casper Mountain. Are you aware that the Ghost Hunter TV show just aired a Casper Mountain, which is the mountain in my backyard, a full two-part series about ghosts and shit?

Do they find any? Yes. But on the other side of the mountain, it's a huge mountain and they did on the other side. Isn't the frequency so grounding there and so like earthy? Don't you feel like grounded? Like I'm talking like you really actually literally feel grounded. So when I land and I walk out to my backyard, instant peace. Yeah. Stress, gone, banished.

I land here. I want to throw up. And not just from the pollution. I get what you're saying. I always say that L.A. and New York are my mistress. I suck it. I fuck it. And then I get the fuck out and go back to Texas. Yeah. So I totally understand what you're saying of like you just want to like sort of like this is like use L.A. for what you can use it for. We should have done this in Casper, Wyoming on the ranch. Yeah, I would have come to Wyoming. We would have come. We would have a pink barn with the disco ball and. Okay. I'm proposing this on air. You can ride a camel? I would, can I come to Casper ride a camel and do the next show that. we do with you whenever it is maybe it's in a year maybe it's in two years in the pink barn.

Oh of course it has Wi-Fi it's air-conditioned it's heated. Mark you have to make this happen please it's so fun Taylor's getting really excited he doesn't know what's gonna we're going you want to Colorado he wants to Colorado campfire me so when you got there how what was the the just a position in your life like how how is it different in Wyoming from every single level, business, friendships, all the things. My best friend of 20 years moved with me. Cool. Michael, and he runs my store.

So when I first moved there, none of this was in my head. I was just like, I just want to be in peace and try to, you know, and I had dealt with a lot of crazy drama and the beauty world was so toxic. And I just wanted to get away from it all. And 10 years of YouTube, I was like, damn, I've hit a ceiling. I did two documentaries. I've reviewed every makeup brand on the planet. I've showed every aspect of my life.

and a lot of things that people had never seen before, like how to make a makeup product. When me and Shane Dawson did our conspiracy collab, no one had ever seen really like the beauty world and all. And beauty was so big. Makeup was like everyone had to have every single thing from every brand. And beauty was way more massive than it is currently, right? So we just showed it all.

And when I went to Wyoming, I just wanted to kind of be at peace. And then unfortunately, which is a great thing, my brain can't ever sleep. I make everything a business. So I'm like, okay and then you know everyone's like well you should get animals and I'm like I'm not doing no horses

and fucking alpacas and I was like I don't want many animals months later my neighbors sell me all their land we went from like 70 acres to a thousand so I like a little small city to myself and I built gates and I barbed wired everything and did fencing and I built my own road I didn't know you can build a street you can is your street name something Star Creek road cute yeah did you barbed wire it to keep people out or barbed wire it to keep the animals in. Both. Got it. Got it.

Got it. Got it. I give it is a reason. Wanted a little bit to learn about running a farm. So, just like being a musician that created a makeup plan that knows nothing, I had to teach myself how to be a CEO and run a full-fledged company, I taught myself how to be a rancher. So I'm sure a lot of Wyoming people early on were rolling their eyes in the back of their head. And then being a musician, I've toured the whole world.

I remember being in Switzerland and seeing all these big hairy cows on a, beautiful green mountain. And they're like, and I was like, what are those? And they're like, those are yaks. And I was like, oh, how cool. And they're really quirky. They have really cool personalities or not like a beef cow that's just like, just sitting there. They throw their tails up. They run around. They have cool personalities. There's ones that I have trained. You can rub them to the ground with these nails. Hi. I was going to ask you how we're milking a yak with the nails. No milking. You can milk them, but that's not the thing. You just butcher them for for meat. Got it. So are you raising the yaks to butcher or are they both? Both.

Yeah. So I have a whole entire pasture of pets. There's big mass of bulls that you would think would gore you and kill you and I can rub them to the ground. What if you fall in love with their personality and you don't want to eat them? I don't bond with the butcher animals. Got it. That's smart. Yeah. They're just there and you drive by and say hi and feed them and they're living a beautiful life, all grass fed. And then the older you get, you start caring about certain things. Yeah. I used to be the queen of fast food. I'm embarrassed.

I'll tell you that exclusively. Tell us why. so fucking embarrassed of how some of my behaviors used to be because I let fast food be a big part of my life and I'm so influential I was like the queen of Taco Bell I was going to do a Taco Bell makeup collaboration didn't do it because why explain to people that don't explain to people that don't understand the butchering process yeah so that's oh my gosh so what I've learned from from producing food there are some folks out there that think meat comes from the grocery store.

Or then that's the majority of people. Wait, what do you mean? You're smart, so your brain can't process what I just said. I know. Yeah. Your stakes just come from the grocery store. Yeah. Isn't it responsible, though?

Can you speak on this? How it is to actually, like, what you're doing is like very responsible. And it's very ethical. So you've seen documentaries. What's the cow one? Cowspiracy. Okay. So,

my animals are living on every pasture has almost 100 acres. They're roaming free. They're in their element. They're grazing. They're playing. They're living their life. A lot of people that are currently at home, maybe even listening to this, you're eating something that was shoved in a steel box, pumped full of hormones, made to grow

quicker than it was ever humanly possible from what God created us all in. And it's really, really awful. And I realize that fast food wasn't real. and it wasn't real food and how could we possibly have enough animals to serve every McDonald's client every day. It's not real meat. It's fake. So do you feel better after you're eating the meat from your land? Five years Taco Belfrey. I feel like an addict. I'm like, hi, I'm Jeffrey. I'm a fast food addict or I was. When I started eating a lot of grass fed meat, I noticed my hair grew, my nails grew, my skin was plumber, I look younger, the creatine, the aminos. Like people don't realize, like it is literally,

like a multi-vitamin if you get the right meat. Yes. And Grass Fight is the best. Can we buy Jeffrey Star meat? Yes. You can. So all of it is USDA approved. Wait, I was being funny. Are you being serious? We shipped to all 50 states. They're not surprised if you're running a full. So because, yeah, so I bought it. The quick version is I bought a couple yaks. And the thing with me is I become really obsessive in a healthy way of like,

what am I going to do is my next venture, right? Like TikTok. now I'm the queen of TikTok live streaming. I started a ranch, got a couple animals for fun, and people kept going, are you going to murder them? And I'm like, no, I'm good. Like, they're just a couple pets. And then I got more. And then I think sometimes when you get investment opportunities,

oh, I have, you know, my grandfather passed away. He has 50 yaks. I'll buy them all. This is like maybe a personal question. Isn't that what we're here for? What does 50 yaks cost? Oh. Oh my gosh.

That's like the, um, it depends. When, when a rancher needs to move them, you can get some really great deals like $900 ahead. If you're going to buy any, so I have the best genetics in America. All my yak rancher friends, you know it's true. I bought it from every. So what I did was, because I'm not the average bear, right? I got a couple of yaks. And then I was like, this can be a real business. And I really, you know, the breeding and yaks are a niche market, unbeknownst to all of the yak ranchers. There's not that many, maybe like 50 to a hunt, maybe, I think I'm way less than 100. Serious yak breeders.

I bought from all of them. And then just like Beauty World, there's yak drama. Shut the fuck up. It sounds like you kind of cornered the yak market. Shut the fuck up. There's not fucking yak drama. Oh, there is. All the old farmers and old men hate each other.

What do they think of you coming in? New fresh meat energy. Well, they don't care anywhere because they bought all their animals. So you bought all the animals. So you sort of like, who's that guy that you read about? He's like that one guy, Rockefeller. Well, so yeah, so what I did was I bought animals from everyone.

And I started crossbreeding and doing things that no other ranch had done. And unfortunately, there was a lot of people that were like that didn't like each other. So this, this breed, not breed, like this genetics of yak. They're never going to breed with this because these two guys hate each other. And no one's going to, it's like, it was a weird thing. Very bizarre. So me, not giving a fuck about any of that, I googled it all, I researched it, I learned about all the ranches. There's a yak association, the North American yak.

So all my entire herd is registered with DNA testing through gene seek in Nebraska. So they're all pure. And it's, I'm really deep in now. You know, I feel like you need some kind of something like this that's like really sort of like out there. Like you, I feel like you need to, like, get a bee farm or, like, do something that's interesting like this because I, I like that I like it's unpredictable. No, she's saying because I want something unpredictable. Because I get, like, weirdly obsessed with things when I get into things. And then I go down the rabbit hole and I will, you know, I would, you've done it with like certain things.

I could do something like really weird, like a yak. Like, like, do something like, like, like colorful. I got to think about, he is more than that. Okay. A bee farm? That's cool. if you like, see, I'm allergic to bees and I hate insects. So I'm running.

Okay. I'm running away. Like James Hetfield and Metallica became a beekeeper. Yeah, that's badass. But he can't do that. So go on with... I didn't even know that. Metallic was one of my favorite bands.

Yeah, he became a beekeeper and he says it's like really therapeutic and they go and they do... So here's the thing that I've never really acknowledged. I started producing meat. There was an extreme shock at first. Not people not... Because before, people would be like, are you going to ever kill those things? people just get so weird. And I'm like, no, I didn't have that thought process. And then I met other yak ranchers or I started buying yak and people were like, try my meat. I, you know, try my

meat. I, you know, here's a yak steak. I produce yak meat. And I was like, oh, cool. Like there and then you Google it and you start doing your research. It's 95% fat free, full of the best nutrients more than skinless chicken. I mean, there's, it's so fucking healthy for you. And then I dumped fast food. And I'm all like, yeah, let's teach everyone to eat better. And everyone was like, fuck you, you're murdering your animals. And I'm like, well, the ones I pet and you guys see all on social media, those are all still alive. They have name tags, serial numbers, registered. I want to teach people to eat better and how we've all been tricked and the government doesn't care about us and they want to keep us sick. Oh, baby, they weren't ready for that. Now they are.

We've made so much money off yak meat. It's a beautiful thing. And we've taught so many people to eat better. And it's been really glorious. What does it like to be so ahead of the curve where people don't get it? Because I have this problem with a lot of stuff. I get called a lot of different names. Woo-woo is my favorite. But what is it like to be like so ahead that like you almost can't explain it? It's almost like not in the zeitgeist yet.

It just comes natural for me. So that's a hard thing to answer. So when you when you. It feels great. When you start to feel people coming around to yak meat that's sustainably raised, it sounds like that's grass fed. Yeah, grass and alfalfa, that's all they're eating. Nothing else.

No medicine. No weird injections. They're just living their life. And you ethically with a USDA agent, you, you know, you butcher them. And I think people just see documentaries and weird pita videos and they think they're getting their throat slit. I mean, they're dead in one second. That's it. It's a quick little like nail.

And it's, it's, and I do it in a way where the animals are. there and they're stress-free. So it doesn't like unload them, bam, it's like they're chill. They're like, because the stress stays in the food. And let me tell you something, and this is going to be woo-woo. If the animal has tons of cortisol and it dies, the frequency and the energy stays in the meat, and then people eat it. It does.

They eat the stress and the fear. But if you don't understand that, they don't. They're not, they're not, you know. I mean, that's so true. It's very ethical. So I'm not doing anything unethical. It's all by the books. But the shocker was, you have a vegan cosmetics brand.

Well, yeah, I'm sorry. You think little bunnies and dogs should be tortured with fucking lipstick and mascara formulas? That's way different than providing food from pasture to plate. So living in Wyoming, I was educated so much and it really changed my life. So I didn't plan any of that, like I said. So then all of a sudden it spiraled from one yak to 500 yaks. you know, 70 acres to a thousand. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I want to open up a store in Wyoming.

The first ever Jeffrey Star Cosmetic Store is in downtown Casper, 7,000 square feet. It's called the Jeffrey Star Store makeup and meat. That is amazing. And it's really cool. This is why I like long form content, though, because you get the context around how you came to this. So you can go shop some makeup and some meat. So this is a perfect example. You guys are passing through town.

You may be going to a wedding in Montana and you're like, oh my God, let me check out that Jeffrey guy's store. Well, he doesn't give a fuck about lip gloss. You may want to go shop lip scrubs and a fucking eye cream. He can go check out this yak steaks. We have taxidermy on the wall. There's samples of our, we have the famous yak jerky. I might pick up one of the moisturizers.

They're amazing. We have a Wyoming winter skincare line now that was inspired by living there. My skin becoming drier and creating a whole line for people that. are dry as fuck. How do you like your yak? Because I make a bowl I make a bowl of meat every day. It's changed my life. I'm going to

switch to yak. But how do you eat your yak? So yak is it's so lean. You have to cook it on low heat and cook it slow. Okay. And it's a little salt and pepper or no. Yeah. Or seasoning. It's whoever you want it. Now anyone that's listening at home and you're not visually looking at us right now,

the number one question is is it gamey? No, it's the opposite. It's sweeter than beef. It's not like elk. It's not like venison. It's not like bison. It is a sweeter, healthier beef and it tastes so yummy. And explain for people who don't know all of the benefits that come with it besides like the amino acids and the creatine. What are the things that you notice? I feel like your digestive system is way better. I don't know how these people eat crap all day. It's fake food. And then your body starts getting used to it. And it's just your skin, everything. just to me is just you can tell when someone's not eating right. Also, I think a lot of people right now from what I'm learning from this show are on GLP ones. I can't breathe. We'll get into that. Oh boy. A lot of you are on GLP ones and I think if you're going to be on a GLP one,

you better be eating your yak and your protein. They're not. They don't care. It's the girls that get lipo and they're back to eating McDonald's. Really? You don't think anyone's on a GLP one wanting a bowl of yak? Five percent. Okay. All right. Let me ask you this switching gears a little bit because I Well, I do love the yak meat discussion. I got to keep it moving. Everyone's talking about dick. That's easy. We'll get to that.

Yeah, on that dick, girl. He's already learning. You have no idea. He's probably watching porn out as we speak. I imagine. You have to put in your age, so you probably isn't. It's shut down. It's getting banned in other countries and other states.

I mean, Arizona, you can't log in anymore. Same with Texas. I have friends who are in that industry. and I've been offered to be in that industry and I don't know if I'm going to do it yet. I better I better decide soon before I get too old and I'm unfuckable so I better be soon. Maybe you do like a one and done

like a like a starlet like make it like a movie theater premiere opening. A Bonnie Blue gang fuck. Yeah. All coming out. And what's it called? A lot of women are very upset about Bonnie Blue and how she let a thousand guys like fuck her. And I'm like, I'm just jealous.

I think I think everyone's upset about something. Oh my God. I saw the trailer on her Twitter and it was Taylor was in line Where's your mic? Well, yeah What were we going to enter that? You want to stop yaking?

Let me get back on Listen, let me get, we went down a rabbit hole now. For somebody who's so outspoken Oh boy, where's going? How do you feel? Well, I think I know how you feel about cancel culture and people feeling afraid to kind of speak their minds who have built audiences and are scared to lose their businesses or their brands for sharing their true opinions.

Because I think you've obviously built such a massive thing, but you've also always been yourself without feeling like tied to one camp or the other. I think this value. Well, I think cancel culture has evolved and changed. And I think the internet is still, when you really think about it, it's kind of new, right? Like I was 10th grade, MSN dial up 56K modem. There's people don't even know what we're talking about right now. We're like speaking a different language.

The sound. So I think the internet evolved really quickly. And for some reason, around 2013, everyone became a pussy. And people were, it was a very bizarre shift. Like all my crazy wild jokes were now. And I'm like, okay, got it. And people got really, really weird. And I think now we're at a place where people should be held accountable

for really awful things, right? I think cancel culture is kind of over. But like we talked about, you're going to glorify and make fun of someone that was murdered on, like, now you're getting the repercussions. So the people that are losing their jobs, Trump is taking away visas if you're tweeting,

I'm glad he died. Good. Now you're being held responsible versus, oh, you made a joke when you were 12. We're going to hate you forever. I think people are allowed to grow and change. I think they are. And if you still think someone's a piece of shit

where they're still acting like that, then hold them accountable, right? But I think for a while, no one wanted anyone to grow. It was like, we hate you to go away. I never took that as an answer. And I never did anything illegal and I never did anything that I should be in jail and put away, right? I said some really fucked up stuff when I was younger and I'm 40 now. And I own it.

And I'll always, you know, be apologetic and be embarrassed by those times. But I think I'm the face of like, just do you. You're allowed to rebuild. You're allowed to evolve as a human. And I'm gracious enough to, or I'm grateful that the internet and my audience allowed me to grow versus snuffing me out. Yeah, I think like what bothered me about in doing this show is you'd meet a lot of people that had platforms. Yeah. And what they would say publicly versus privately were two different things.

And that stuff drives me nuts. Same. Because I'm like, the only reason you're not saying it publicly is because you're scared of the monetary repercussions. And it's inauthentic. When Charlie Kirk got assassinated, I just organically, like I always, always do said how I felt and I had no idea it was going to be received so great and also so awful it was such a weird dichotomy of like awful in the way that like people from me yeah well like some people because you know at the end of the day the people that are that unfollowed me i i'm not in that way

okay yeah yeah like oh they saw a 20 second clip well so i got a lot of charlie kirk would have hated you i'm like because he didn't agree with certain things yeah that's not who he was so a lot of people were like, I'm unfollowing you because you posted rest in peace. That shows a lot about them. That's really, really sad. So I lost 120,000 followers, gained half a million more. And that wasn't ever my plan. I organically found out about it and was just like really, really shook and disgusted by the whole scenario. So yeah, a lot of people they saw, I think like, you know, a little tiny clip of him on TikTok or Instagram and they just thought he was something he completely wasn't. Very misunderstood. I get shit for this, but that statute just shared about losing 100 and gaining 500.

I've been saying for years, like, for some reason, we gave the loudest, angriest, most miserable people, the biggest mouthpiece. Yep. Right? And, like, I was, you know, I look at metrics, right, running this business all the time. And I'm like, the analytics are not telling the story that the comments are. Yes. Right?

It's like, I think most people, and this is, you could just see this by going out into the normal world. You go out to dinner when I think most people aren't like screaming and yelling in people's faces and tearing them down. There's like normal people trying to do normal people. do normal things. Exactly. Take care of their families, live happily.

But for some rate, yeah, the internet has become this microcosm where like, for whatever reason, maybe it's algorithms, those voices get a lot more shine or share. Yes. I think we need to move away from that. I guess what I'm saying is more positive people can chime in and say, hey, like, that's not okay. You know what I mean? And we can also all have different opinions about things.

I also recently spoke up about gender and things like that. And it's like really greatly received, but then a lot of people were like shook. like I didn't say anything that wasn't a scientific fact. What did you say if someone's listening and they don't know? I think and I come from an old school era. So it's kind of a tricky thing. Nowadays we have grown men with beards wearing dresses going into the women's restroom. When I was younger, any normal person that felt like they were born in the wrong body was trying to be passable.

And they were really wanting to live their life as a woman. And if you really think psychologically you were born in the wrong body, unfortunately, it's like a mental illness. But people hear illness and they just have a full spiral. So this new age of weirdos and predators trying to pretend they're trans or pretend they're this and harm women and children, that's my issue. So there is this piece of shit named Lily Tino who is pretending to be trans and recently went into the women's restroom. at Disneyland. Disneyland's for children. Yes, there's adults that like Disney. We know that. And the camera's rolling. I'm sorry, there's a seven-year-old that just walked behind you. Why the fuck are you in a little training bra and lipstick? Clearly with a man's voice in the

women's restroom filming. Rage bait, attention. These things did not exist 10 years ago. So people love to misconstrue what I said. And that's really what I meant. And I think that we should be protecting women and children at all costs these days with so many weirdos out there in the internet listen there might be some people that don't have any ill will or any harm but like i just like why create the environment where there is the possibility of like so say a hundred people would never anything wrong but there's the one that will that's why create the environment where that one that will has that has an easier time yes to do that right like that's like that's really the i think the thing that a lot of parents are nervous about most people you meet again ill like they

don't have ill intention. They're just trying to live their life in the way that they. So here's a, to me, this is a normal question, but it might be received as a racy to some. Netflix recently is being canceled by Elon. Do you want your five-year-old watching a show that is going to confuse her about gender? I don't want my five-year-old having to think about that calculus at five. I don't want it. I just want my five-year-old to play outside and be pure. Should a five-year-old worried about gender? Why are we putting in cartoons, trans flags, and all this stuff. And that's my personal opinion. I don't agree with it. I think it's too young.

I don't agree with eight-year-olds wearing makeup either. I'm one of the biggest indie beauty brands in the planet. And I don't think little girls should be glorified to look older. That's disgusting. What the fuck is going on? It's not for me as a parent. If people want to do that, you do it. But like, for me, it's not for me.

I don't feel weird dancer. I mean, we don't, we have young children. And any parent that has young children, if you just watch them in normal, like, they were just Rugrats never did this. All these shows we used to watch growing up. It was never like that. I mean, maybe there was adult jokes that we didn't fully understand, but it was never sexualized and weird.

And like, why does the five-year-old watching a Netflix cartoon show need to know about that right now? Why? And then, let's just really take it there. Let's take it there. Why are we encouraging our kids to? to be a different gender and feed them false information when they're so young. So this is what I said recently that people really understood. When I grew up and I started looking different, right?

My mother encouraged me to just be myself. When I started wearing makeup and being more feminine and wanting to do certain things, it wasn't, oh my God, Jeffrey needs, what do they call it now? Gender affirming care. I'm done. I'm done. I just, she let me be myself. She didn't push me to be anything. Just like when you're a tomboy.

Did your mom try to get you a surgery to be a, you know what I mean? Exactly. Did she cut your tits off at 13? That's not, no. So nowadays, it's all these fucking weirdos telling their kids, oh my God, you like a Barbie? You're a woman. No, that's just a little boy experimenting, not knowing what the fuck he's doing. So why do you think that there's people out there trying to do that to their kids?

I don't know. And I feel uneducated in that aspect because I am not a parent, right? And I don't fully grasp why. Why can't kids just be themselves and then figure it out when they're a little older to really make real decisions? Why are we, you know, at 12, my daughter thinks she's a boy. We're doing surgery. We're doing steroids. We're doing testosterone. I just think and their bodies are so not even developed yet. You're fucking with all the chemicals. And it's just I just think. were gone down a bad path. And kids should allow just to be themselves and express themselves and then figure it out later. So you're a tomboy, so you want to be a man? Yeah. You're just not girly. Extreme. But we come from a similar generation.

Like when I was growing up and if you go through a bout of feeling down or you feel a little depressed, you feel like angry, like basically my parents are like, okay, you got to work through that and feel that emotion and it will help you get to the other side. Yep. what are you looking at over there, Haas? What are you doing over there? Oh, you weren't looking at my ass pictures on Instagram. I got some good ones too, huh?

But anyway, back to the, like, kind of like the, like, there was a lot less coddling, I feel like. It was like, hey, you're sad, you're upset, you're angry, like, we're going to work through it. We'll help you work through it. But like, that's an emotion that people feel in life. Unfortunately, you got to get through it. Now it's like, hey, you feel. that way, let's alter your entire reality and coddle to you and make you, that you never feel any kind of pain or discomfort.

We can't do that. It's bizarre. Let people experience life. Let them fall off the bike and get back up. What's the biggest misconception about you? Then I'm not a man. I'm just kidding. Wait, is that really a misconception?

No, it's really not. I mean, random people would try it, but no. Random people on the internet don't get about you. It's not translating and it's frustrating. What do you think? Let me think about this for a second. I know, I know we're recording, but. No, we can, we can like edit it.

But someone that's known me for over 10 years, what is the misconception? Yeah, what's something that like people? I'm just some dumb faggot. I can say it. Y'all can't. I don't ever post or, I don't need validation from my audience that knows that. I love to take care of people. You know, life has blessed me beyond immense.

So I love everyone to have the best time. We're on this planet at such a short amount of time. Let's all eat the best. food, be in the best hotels, have the best experiences, laugh and enjoy, you know, go to trips and like, okay, the business is over it. Let's run a yacht for five hours. Let's go have a fucking cool meal. Let's go sightsee. Let's go have fun and enjoy all of this before it's gone. I know that you're big and quiet about giving back. How do you give back? And what would surprise people about that? Charity, what do you do like for community? Oh, in Wyoming, I've donated

millions and I've never really said anything about it because I don't want the I don't know I know what I'm everyone thinks I'm an attention seeker it's just I don't need the validation of like look you guys I get I'm a good person I know I'm a good person whether someone agrees with me or not is totally okay but I moved somewhere where I really wanted to invest in the community whether it's the Wyoming food bank or stuff like that like I wanted to give back to the community and let them know I'm serious and I really believed in my town. I believe in Wyoming. I really love the state. I think Wyoming as itself is very misunderstood. I was just FaceTiming with someone that I'm sleeping with and they called Wyoming the serial killer state because it's the least populated. And I'm like, huh, like what a random thing.

But you know, you see, I know. But then, you know, there's just movies like, oh, God, what is the, what is the movie in Wyoming? They're making a part of wind river. So people just, they don't, they just see it as like really desolate and random murders and things happening, but it's really. That's a great movie. It's such a good movie. I haven't seen it. Yeah, on a reservation. It's really dark. Yeah. It's like number one on Netflix right now. But I think people don't know that I have a big heart. I think they think I'm very superficial. But I like style. I like. I don't feel that from you. I feel like you're very multifaceted like an onion and you're going to get all different kinds of layers. I don't. Absolutely. I have to tell you. I don't feel like that at all.

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she followed me on Instagram. I know what you're getting at. I'm talking about collab in a different way. I don't ever kiss and tell. This is a media pro. That was a slide. That was a slide. I guess I'll ask a different.

Yeah, like literally sexy red, the fucking rapper, I'm obsessed with her. She followed me on Instagram two days ago and we're going to do a little TikTok this weekend. And I'm like, oh my God, I love her music. I'm obsessed with her.

She couldn't believe I know who she was. And I couldn't believe she knew who the fuck I was. It was really cute. Let me ask the question a different way. I'm talking about like, I know. You want all the rappers

that are all. in the DL. Are there a lot of people, I'll ask it in a different way, there are a lot of people that would shock the audience that are sliding into your DMs. I don't think anymore, because I've talked about it for a couple of years now. But you don't kiss and tell.

No. Like, NFL, like, I was at the Super Bowl a couple years ago. How did fuck you think I got there? You know what I mean? Like, hello. Huh. So, I love, athletes are fun and hung. The best one is the basketball, baseball, or football.

Oh, gosh. basketball. Basketball. Yeah. That's tall. Like a 6-8 situation. Yeah. You would never go for like a 5-5. 5.5. No. Am I going to do floss? What the fuck am I going to do with that? Oh no. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not, it's not a turn on. I'm not kidding.

The low, if you're hung, maybe 5-11. If you don't invite me to your pink barn to keep interviewing you, I'm going to be really Offender. 5-11 is like the worst-case scenario. Oh, Michael, you just made the cut. Just shy. He's 5-11 with a boot. But I love masculinity. Here's a problem with society. We've set up society to shame and ridicule straight men. And I hate the term straight. You're allowed to mainly, here's my take on it. Let's take away the word straight. 5% of the population that are men like women only. 5%. Wow. 95%. percent of men will fuck anybody.

Wait, how do you pull, where's this stat from? His own, his own, yeah. I know what I'm not to say. I'm not going to say you wrong, but I want to just know. Let me just tell you this. Do we have a study or something? I am the study. I am the study.

I am the Harvard study. Did you hear that? As a very feminine man who has never pretended to be anything but what I was born, I do look a certain way, which I'd also upset people when I was talking about Charlie and trans and all this. Like, I've never, I'm a dude. I'm a guy. Do I look very feminine?

Yes, I love hair and nails and makeup. I don't know. It's just built in me to like fashion. You can imagine where the calculus of a lot of this gets confusing. Yes. So society has let everyone know that men have to be macho and men. So if they have sex with a male or anyone that's feminine that has a penis, they're now demasculated in their freak show.

It's very bizarre. So unfortunately, it's very, the DL term is very real. A lot of guys. just want to hook up on the DL because the world will judge them. There's been dudes that have been in love with me that have cried and like literally wanted to kill themselves because they're in love with me, but their parents will disown them and that means more than me. I have had grown men literally like it's really sad.

Is that interesting and sad and weird to see the process of someone who falls in love with you and then they have to come to terms with the fact that they can never let anyone know because there's too much shame. It's so awful. It's really heartbreaking to watch someone go through that, honestly. What does that do to you? Well, I'm the case study. So what I was getting at is that from whether I was broke or not, money has nothing to do with it, right?

I've traveled the world. I've been to countries where they'll stone you for being gay. Three-sum, hey. And no one cares. I was in Africa doing threesomes. They'll kill you there. No one cared. Hold on.

Hold on. Wait. Was that such a big statement? I was in Senegal, Africa. with the singer Akon, who was my manager. We never slept together. Acon, I love you, brother. He's in the 5%.

He loves pussy. He's in the 5%. 5%. Oh, yeah. Anyone else we can call out in the 5%. Taylor, are you in the 5%. Oh, please. You are?

Oh, I think so. Oh, no, you can't think so. You can't think so. You said it's sure. Now you're saying you think. But have you ever been curious to experiment. Okay.

What does that mean? I can't. If none of these cameras were rolling, are you sexually attracted to me? Maybe? What about I don't think that to be? I don't take it the wrong. Trust me, you can see my phone.

Every rapper, every artist you listen to on the radio has been in my mouth. But what I'm getting at is, and I will like to say this, I'm very, I'm very into health. Okay? I've never had an STD. I'm very into health. So, if a random dude on Instagram wants to fuck, go get tested or I'll pay for it and then we'll talk.

So you won't do anything until you see test results. Yes. Well, can I go back to the threesome in Africa? That statement. Acon played in front of half a million people in Senegal and he took me to Africa with his entire team and they're like, no cards and they're like, you know, don't

do anything with guys in public. It's illegal and I'm like, what do you mean? Whatever. And I'm like 50 inch pink hair, full tattoos. No one judged me. Everyone was really, really cool. And in the hotel, I did have a lot of fun with people. Yeah. Can you manage more than three? Yes. Like, how many is manageable? Five. Five. But after five, it's like, you're done. Then you better be joining us. Some other girl. Yeah. Yeah. Not you specifically. Do girls stand a chance?

What do you mean by that? With you? Yeah. I like everything. Yeah. So that's another misconception. I am not gay. I am just open and very me. I love that though. It's like just doing... I don't like the term. I mean, there's obviously a lot of gay people out there that only like a certain thing. That's great. LGBT is it. Q&T, get off the alphabet, sweetie. You should be in your own category.

Okay? Let me break it down for you straights. Lesbian, gay, and bi. Is that not a sexuality? That's a sexuality, yes. Right? Okay. What you think your identity is has nothing to do with what you're sexually attracted to. So why is T and Q on LGBT? T and what I, fuck that means. LGB, gay lesbian and by, that is your preference of who you are attracted to and what you like. Your identity issues and

who you think you are is so separate. I don't agree that they should be together. That's interesting. I think it should be its own thing. Is everyone straight here? Do you think all of that being lumped in together causes a disservice to to all of the message and all the causes. Because those, yes. And I vocalized this after I went on Pierce Morgan and Twitter,

got it. They were like, yes. And so many straight people were like, thank you for fucking saying this. I was afraid of being canceled for ever saying that. Why is that it's an opinion? Well, Michael actually has a, I'm not a negative. I want you to give your take on this because you have something interesting. No, I don't have, well, I don't know if it's

something interesting. I just think it's really confusing to people to change the goal posts in the rules every six months or a year or two years. And all y'all are expecting all the terms? Listen, I was terrible in school. I need a fucking study book to figure all this stuff out all the time. When we were doing the prep, I'm like, what do you like, what do you even say and do? Because you don't want to offend somebody. You want to be nice to people. I think everybody wants to be respectful. Everyone wants to get it right. So the statistics from the government, not my own brain, is that during the pandemic, a lot of this behavior started. A lot of identity crises, people not knowing who the

fuck they are being influenced by a TV, TikTok, who knows what. And now the spike is really different. And people are coming back to Earth. Is it because everyone was locked indoors? Well, I think it took the, I think it took a few people, maybe yourself included, standing up and just being like, listen, this is getting to be absurd. Yes, bizarre. It's unfair to take the majority of the population and obligate them to fully change how he's, humans have thought for thousands of years. Again, nobody's trying to be moved. It started when the first person and we as a society, let them, I'm they.

Okay. And what the fuck does that mean? You don't, you don't, five years ago, we would not be able to have this discussion. Everyone would have a meltdown. But why? You're a they and them. Okay. Got it.

So what you're saying is there needs to be more context around it. The absurdity is that, are you saying? You can only be a man, a woman, or trans. The absurdity is that dopes like us would sit there and be like, uh-huh, yes, I understand. I had no fucking idea. I was sitting there just nodding my heads. That part. And then all of you in this room are expected to know every label of something.

I'm a bird now. No, you're a fucking female. Shut up. So when you say this, what's the pushback that you get? It was like, I don't know. It was just very bizarre. But most people got it. And they were happy that someone who is a male

that just does whatever the fuck they want and does look feminine is saying it. A lot of the straight community were very afraid to tiptoe around that. Yeah, I mean, no one knows what to say. Yes. You know what reminding of, you know that game operation where you like try to pull the little bones?

Yeah. I felt like, okay, you're like going in. And if you say, like, you get like, like, bzzz, it's gone. Yeah. It's a cancel. Get out, shut the show down. You know, we don't know.

They tried to complicate everything and expect the world to agree and play into the fuckery. I want to know what you're like at home on your day off with the yak. Boring as fuck. So, yeah, are you like no makeup, like cash? Like, what are you like? My issue is I work a lot.

So, you know, we quit YouTube. We stream and we use TikTok as a very big vessel now. I am one of the biggest streamers on TikTok in America. I have one of the biggest, if not one of the biggest teams of the whole app. What does that mean when you say you're, I don't. Like, do you, so you have a team running your, your, no, no, no, my team mean to my audience. Got it. My customers.

Okay. So what is it? The star fan, baby. Is it just going live? What do you mean by stream? Is that what that means? Yes. So you click the live button.

Okay. And TikTok has evolved very quickly. They're geniuses. So you can go live and do anything. You can. So a lot of streamers, unfortunately, they do one thing. They sit behind a backdrop and they hang out and there's, there's something called battling where you can battle another creator and your audience throws gifts that are equaled money and whoever has the

most points, which is money, you win. Whether you win or lose, you still get the other, you know, the money. But it's like battling is this really big TikTok thing. Got it. I go, I do that sometimes and it's fine. Let's say I'm bored in Wyoming and there's a snowstorm. Clicking that button, I could banter and see, that's the thing is I'm good at like turning up the character. Like, you're meeting me, you're meeting me, you're meeting me. Right? You're meeting me and this is who I am all day. But when you're bantering and someone comes on the screen, the comedic Jeffrey comes out and I'm fucking vicious. And they love it.

But you aren't, to me, you're not mean. No, but I can be to like idiots. Okay. Like not normal. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I feel like there's a warmth about you. Yes. Like, I think that you should do.

Do you have a podcast? No, I've been offered one. We've talked about it. I think you should do a podcast called yakking with Jeff. Jeffrey. I want to be the new, uh, I want to be the new love line. Yes. Like, you know what? I think that, I want to take calls and give advice right now. You want to do anal better? Click, let me go. Let's talk about it. How do you do anal if someone's listening and wants to do it better? Oh, God. Right now. Yeah. Are you married? No.

Exactly. Um, so what I get from girls is he just tried to put it in. Motherfucker, you have to ease it in. eat the ass. You said, what are you talking about? You just try to stuck it in. Yeah, you can't just stick it in. What dude thinks that's normal? That's like, it's so weird. Yeah, it is weird.

It's so weird. He just tried to shove it in. I'm a lot of my girlfriends say that. And I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? Send him over to my house for a night. I'll give him a class. You know, but when I'm having a day off and I don't live stream, I like to be grounded,

which may sound very strange in this last hour, to sit in the middle of a open pasture. Feet on the ground, no shoes. We're not supposed to really be wearing shoes. Our feet are not supposed to be crammed in. We're not supposed to be wearing rubber. They've killed all spirituality on this whole planet. Hi, I want to go there? Please. Feet on the ground. Agreed. Hi, that was the real term. Feet on the ground. Grounding earth. The government has done everything to unground us. They've poisoned the water, poisoned all the food. Daylight savings. It made everyone dumb. What? Why aren't we? I'm sun gazing at the crack of dawn. Sorry that y'all aren't. This new administration said they're going to get rid of daylight savings.

I hope. It's ridiculous. In Wyoming, it's all of a sudden dark at 4 p.m. next month. Can't wait. They want you depressed, indoors, dark blackout. No. So you like to ground and there's a spiritual side of you that people are missing when you're online.

Yeah. I find that interesting and it makes so much sense because I think you have to be such a high performer and so on and everything is so optimized and you're so intense. It doesn't surprise me. the other side of that is a completely different situation. Yep. Just to be in a pasture and hang out and just sit there and let the wind blow and the sun on my face and just hang out with my animals and just put out a blanket and the yaksin camp, you know, they just sit next to me and we just all hang out and reading a book. People don't read anymore. It's so sad. Everyone in their Kindles.

Who actually, I like to read a real fucking book with pages that I can turn. What's your favorite books that you've read? What's Jeffrey approved? I'm really unfortunately into the really fucked up memoirs. Like people that have survived like the craziest drug addictions. Like what's that one? A million pieces. I love that book. Yeah.

Whether that was maybe came out that a little bit, whether it was false, it's a book, right? But like I love people that overcome triumph and addiction and eating disorders and, you know, all that type of stuff. I found it very fascinating when I was younger because my family could never really

escape the addiction. And I was just like, I always wanted to fix everybody, but I was so young and didn't understand it at the time, you know? So it's almost like therapeutic to probably read it. Yeah, but I also love fiction. Like I really do love Stephen King. I love horror.

I love that type of stuff. I like reading, you know, things that have really like depth to it. Would you ever be monogamous and be. What's that mean? Like just one person. Like would you ever be. Just one. Just one. Be with just one person.

Just one for the rest of your life. That's an option? I don't know. I don't, I actually have no sort of like take on that. I'm just saying for you. Here's my answer. I haven't met the person to make me feel like that. I've been in love once.

Okay. Was monogamous. Had a beautiful relationship. But currently with the state. So when I was in my five year, I almost call like a marriage, I, when we broke up, which was about, oh my gosh, like six years now, right? I've still never been on a dating app. I've never downloaded an app, whether it's straight or gay.

I know what Grindr is. I know what Bumble is. I know what all these things are. I don't, you can literally look on my phone. I have, I have never been on those apps. But any, but celebrity,

people still go on dating apps. They like to see what's on there. I've never been on one. So when my serious relationship where I was in love ended, the dating world was so different. And now it's, oh girl, it's dark. Why is it dark?

I think that 99% of people cheat and they have this now. So the old days, couples would fight and have conversations or like move on. Like now it's like, oh, I'm going to open up a, I'm going to go get my fix. And here's 10 women that want to fuck me. While my wife's mad at me, I'm going to, whether it's sending a picture or sending a text, all of it's cheating. You don't have to have sexual intercourse to cheat. You're sending a dick picture.

You're cheating. Agreed. You're entertaining someone else's feelings. You're cheating. And also, like, work on the dick picture too. If you're going to send a dick picture. Oh, I got great ones from guys. I only get the best.

I've never got, I don't get bad ones. What's the trick to a great dick pick? I don't know. Why do you need to know? I'm just wondering. She's a female. She can be curious. Yeah, I would like you to like, I could get a dick pick at work from you.

Like, put some good light on it. I feel like you got to get the angle right. Oh, see, you know. But if you're married and she already knows how big it is, you don't need the angle. But I mean, like when you're taking a picture, like, you don't want to, there's a lot of wrong ways. Well, I don't want to see it all limp in the shower. I don't know. Sometimes I don't mind a limp moment if it's like a cute candid.

Like, hey, thinking. There's so many social clips from this podcast. I don't even know what to say. You know what? I've taken a lot of risque pictures that no one's ever seen. seen. Like huge cocks in my mouth in private jets and the pilot takes the picture, like all that type of stuff.

The pilot takes the picture. Yeah. Who's flying the plane? Well, there's two. There's two. Yeah. Like, hold on, Bill. If I get your permission later, I'll show her a couple.

I would love to see one. You have my permission. I'm a connoisseur. I am. I'm a dick connoisseur. Oh my God. Same. Yeah.

So, you know, 5% of the world's straight. I've learned a lot on this show. Before you go. So what's something that you want the audience to know? It could be about your business, about you, about your TikTok. Give us something that you just want everyone to know. I want people, and this isn't even about me right now.

I want people to be more kind to themselves. From being online for so long, there's so many people who don't like themselves are really insecure. A lot of my number one question is, how do you get confidence? And I don't know how to answer that. I just woke up one day and didn't give a fuck in high school. I just, my brain just like I said, is, like I said, is, how do you get confidence. It just clicked and I never looked back. So I wish people would be less harsh on themselves.

I wish they would not care what a stranger thought about them. I don't know how we got to a point in society where a stranger saying you're ugly validates anything. It's just a very bizarre world we live in. That's a good one. That's a very good one. This episode had a lot of range. In fact, I'm going to vote that this episode had maybe the most range. Ever?

I love that. We did, like, it is going to be a challenge titling this one. And coming up with the description of the episode. But I feel like it went everywhere. It was, it was warm. Maybe I'll call it Colorado Campfire with Jeffrey Starr. No one knows what that means except my audience. I'll give you.

Everyone already follows you, but where can everyone find you, shop your products? Can we do a giveaway? Can we do a code? We didn't even ask, but is that okay? Yeah, I would love to do a code. It would be my honor. Jeffreystar Cosmetics.com is the main driver. TikTok shop is always opened on my page.

Can we buy the meat too? Yes, you can. It's on the shop. So on TikTok, you can buy the jerky and the snack sticks. If you want frozen meat. And when you guys are settled in Texas, let someone know, and I'll send you guys a big dry ice like package of like steaks and brats and burger. That's very nice.

And I'll give you guys a couple of things to make. You can make anything with yak. I mean, the burger is so great. You can do meatballs. You can do obviously hamburgers. What does it taste like compared to like beef steak? He told you it's not gamed. Yeah, it's more sweeter.

Yeah, yeah. It's more sweeter, really healthy. Not gamy at all. And I haven't even mentioned this yet. I'm in seven restaurants in Wyoming. Wow. Isn't that cool? So you can get the famous Jeffrey Star Yak Burger at the branding iron.

Anyone passing through Wyoming. You can get, there's a place called Tacos Mexico from San Diego. They moved to Wyoming 25 years ago with all their famous recipes. You can do the Yak Baria. You can do the tacos. You can do the cassidia with the yak meat. So there's a lot of the Yakme. a lot of cool places in town. So when I do events and meet and greets and casts where people

from all over common, it's really beautiful for the economy. All the restaurants are filled. I've done videos at all the restaurants showing off the food and giving everyone their flowers. And it's just so fun out there. I love it. I cannot wait to arrive home to Jeffrey's Brots. Yeah, Jeffrey's meat. Okay, so where can we use code skinny? Yeah. We can use code skinny for 20% off, go shop, all the things. What is the number one makeup that they should try. What if they can pick one? If you're really into makeup, the Valore liquid lipstick is what I built this entire brand off of. Okay. My famous lip scrubs are really great. But we also have so many new things and I just can't wait for everyone to experience it. So

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