The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Jorge Cruise - How To Intermittent Fast, The Myths and Truths Behind Intermittent Fasting, Diet, Fitness, & Weight Management

Episode Date: April 2, 2019

#179: On this episode we sit down with celebrity trainer and best-selling author Jorge Cruise to discuss health, weight management, diet, and intermittent fasting. There are a lot of myths and truths around intermittent fasting and the proper way to intermittent fast effectively. Jorge is here to break it all down. To connect with Jorge Cruise click HERE To check out Jorge's new book The Cruise Control Diet click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by ROTHY'S. Rothy’s shoes are stylish, sustainable, and comfortable enough for every day wear, anywhere. Rothy's will blow your mind that they’re made from recycled plastic water bottles, because they’re the softest shoe you’ll put on your feet. You can feel good about wearing them.To try ROTHY's go to ROTHYS.COM and enter PROMO code "SKINNY" at checkout This episode is brought to you by CURED NUTRITION, a wholistic supplement company straight out of Boulder, Colorado. If you love organic, hemp-derived CBD products like we do, then you need to know about CURED nutrition. Their full spectrum of products works with your bodies system to produce better sleep results, decreased stress levels, and inflammation. All of their products are non psychoactive and they ship straight to your door. As always we have an offer for you to try. Go to curednutrion.com/skinny and enter promo code SKINNY For 15% off your entire order WOO MORE PLAY is the all natural and organic coconut love oil that is changing the way we have sex. With only 4 all natural ingredients WOO is the perfect personal lubricant to spice up your sex life.  All Him & Her Listeners will receive 20% off your entire order plus free shipping when when visiting www.woomoreplay.com & using promo code HIMANDHER at checkout. Produced by Dear Media 

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But if you have weight to lose and you want to get rid of it, it also robs you of what I didn't have, which is confidence. And I think the greatest gift health gives you, and you guys tell me how you guys feel, but it gives you what I would say is fucking confidence you need that edge in life to go after whatever it is you want to do whether it's work whether it's a relationship whether you know I'm a dad I have two kids I have a 14 year old in high school I have a 12 year old I want to be active with them welcome back everybody another exciting week another exciting episode that clip was from

our guest of the show today, celebrity fitness trainer and celebrity author Jorge Cruz. On this episode, we talk all intermittent fasting, diet, fitness, you name it, everything under the sun. Lots of intermittent fasting. Lots of intermittent fasting. We really break it down. You guys have had a lot of questions about intermittent fasting, so we thought we would

bring on the expert Jorge Cruz. He gives very, very specific details, which we love. Breaking down all the myths around intermittent fasting. Guys, for those of you that are new to the show, my name is Michael Bostic. I'm a serial entrepreneur and the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network. Across from me is my beautiful wife, a little bit swollen. Michael, I don't look beautiful right now, don't I? You're beautiful to me, beautiful to me right really yeah i know yesterday you looked at me and you like you do this thing when you look at me when i'm this swollen and you like dissect me with your eyes well i just you know it's i'm used to looking at a specific face for a very long time well you know i'm trying

i've been trying to do this look at your fine lines for a long time i was trying to do this intro without my headphones on to see if I could do it. It's just not the same without the headphones on. I gotta put the headphones on. So I'm gonna put them on. Why don't you entertain everybody for a minute? I'm gonna put the headphones on. I'm Lauren Everett, Michael's very swollen wife.

I told you guys in the last episode, I had the screws and metal removed from my face from jaw surgery. It still hurts to talk, but I'm here. I'm live. It hurts to do other things too. So Michael didn't get all his birthday gifts last night, but. This is more of a loss for me than for anyone. Okay.

Yeah. Feel bad for Michael. You know what is really funny? I got surgery a week ago and I get out of surgery. This is a real story, you guys. And I look at Michael and I can tell that he's coughing. He's making loud sighs. He's being a little bit louder than normal, which is pretty loud. And it turns out he had a tickle in his throat. A little bit of a tickle. So for five days while I was recovering from surgery,

I had to nurse him back to health with tea and massages and tiger balm because he had a tickle in his throat. Well, why does one thing have to do with the other? Like, why can I not be sick because you have surgery? I don't get it. It's just so interesting how the second that I... I'm not taking away from you. The second I have surgery, you get a tickle in your throat and then my dog gets a long black hair stuck in his butthole.

That's a whole other side story. For people that don't follow your social, they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Give some context on the but i will but i think that i got sick by going to your i get sick in hospitals or wherever we were but that wasn't really a hospital like just doctor's office i think i think i got a little bit of a there's something floating around in there okay so tell us about the butthole hair really quick i don't know our dog ate some long hair and it was i didn't know what to do it was just hanging out like a streamer

out of his ass it was really it was. Everyone feel bad for me because while I was trying to recover from surgery, there was a circus at my fucking house. So I'm Lauren Everett. I'm the creator of the skinny confident. I've started to put that explicit sign on our show, which we didn't ever really do in the beginning. And I don't know why, cause obviously this explicit, but you know, cause we get in some write-ins and people are like shocked that there's bad words or sex topics or there's going to be bad words. Guys, we talk how we talk. Yeah, I'm not going to change the way I talk.

This is the way I talk. It's the way I talk if you go to happy hour with me. And I think if you have kids in the car, you probably shouldn't listen to the episodes with them. Listen, if you're looking for Mary Poppins, and who's that guy? The guy that wore the red sweater? The guy that wore the red sweater. Taylor, who's that guy that wore the red sweater? Mr. Rogers. Yeah, if sweater taylor who's that guy that wore the red mr rogers yeah if you're looking for mary poppins mr rogers go switch to switch to another channel that that ain't us guys uh there's plenty of other shows you know what

else i just thought of you pulled your back out too while i was recovering i know and i wish i had a cool story about that but i was picking up a giant box of waters okay so basically 32 never felt so old everyone oh it was, it was Michael's birthday too, you guys on when, so it was everything about you all week while I was recovering. Yeah. I'm going to have to have Jorge back on the show soon to talk about anti-aging. All right, guys. So let's get into the interview with Jorge Cruz. Jorge Cruz is a celebrity fitness trainer, has trained some of the top celebrities and personalities in the world. Author of multiple bestselling books, most recent one all about intermittent fasting called Cruise Control.

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I'm really excited because I just found out that I can break my intermittent fast with lube. No, no, you don't break it. You actually stay fasting. I stay fasting with lube. It's one of the foods you can eat while you're fasting and it won't raise your insulin. You burn belly fat with it. Okay, so I can get freaky with Michael before my fast is over because I'm actually having healthy fat. Or after your fast too.

See, when we give it as dessert, it's the ultimate dessert. We created this. I figured, you know, I needed, we need to add the dietary element into it. Anything I can get in her mouth is perfect. Except that banana. We'll talk about the banana. We're going to talk about the banana. We can't do that.

So we have Jorge Cruz here. He is going to dive into specifics with intermittent fasting. You guys have asked so many questions about intermittent fasting. I feel like there's a million theories, but you are really the guru of intermittent fasting. Let's go back a little bit. I want to, I mean, we're going to dive into it, but let's go back. I mean, you've worked with everybody under the sun at this point. We've, you know, we've had a few interactions now, you know, been talking for a while, but for the But for the audience that's just turning in, let's get a little background. Sure. Sure. I mean, for me, I was an overweight kid. My mother's from South America, from Bogota,

Colombia, for all my Spanish-speaking people. Peace. Hola. And so I learned speaking Spanish, but I grew up being a little Latin. I'm gay, but I didn't know I was gay at the time. I grew up Catholic. So for me, as much as I was a free spirit, probably there was a lot of control by my Catholic mother and grandmother that raised me. And for me, I was always, I always felt like a part of me was probably missing all the way through high school and college. I was overweight. So for me, the way I think I got through it before I discovered fitness, because fitness became my fucking drug. I mean, that's what I use to stay sane. That's what I did during my hard times. But before I discovered fitness, I discovered the other F word, food. And I ate emotionally,

right? I mean, can you guys relate to that? I mean, obviously I was sad. And for me, food was a way to feel better. And I wasn't overeating avocados or, you know, I was probably eating too many bananas and chips and crackers, carbs. I was just eating carbs, sugar. So I was addicted to sugar. So I got to be fat. And so for me, not knowing that I was gay, but knowing that I was a little vain and didn't feel confident in my own skin for me, by the time I was 18, 19, I was trying to figure out how do I lose this weight? Because I was almost like 240 at one time and I'm six one, you know, now I'm like 175 and I feel way better at that weight for me. And, you know, and for me, it's been a struggle. And then I, you know, I turned my lemon into lemonade.

You know, I wrote my first book in 2001. I was really blessed that Anthony Robbins was my very first client, celebrity client, he and his family. And he wrote the introduction of my first book in 2001. But I was really blessed because the reason I think Tony even talked to me was because in 1998, I was on Oprah Winfrey. Oprah discovered me. So before there were books before anything

oprah who miss winfrey oprah who you know the big o you know about the big you know you told us i know you told him we were talking privately and now it's nothing's private anymore we're on the show but it's all it's all yeah we were talking you know this weekend when we were having was it this weekend yeah it was yeah we're having brunch where were we yeah and you said something that made me i don't want to say sad for you but but it kind of did. Like you grew up in a very Catholic religious setting and your grandmother would actually maybe smack you. With a broomstick. When maybe you would do things that she would say, maybe not manly or maybe what she'd say, she'd call you a maricon, right? Maricon, yeah. In Spanish.

And she said, like, that was my affirmation, like as a little boy. I didn't even know what it meant. She told me it meant, she would say to me and I write about, I wrote about this a few years ago in a book called the three choices, uh, how to turn pain into power. And it was kind of my, my telling story of how I got through it all. But she used to say, and in Spanish that means, and it's harsh. It's not that you're not gay, but you're not a fag. That's what she would tell me that.

And she would, you know, and if I did anything that was feminine or i remember i had action figures star wars action figures which i love but i also had strawberry shortcakes someone gave me that once and i love strawberries i love how they smell and you could scratch her her like um you could scratch her outfit and it would smell like strawberries yeah i told you had one too oh yeah strawberry shortcakes so we're the same i know so but grandma did not think that was appropriate. But that's got to be really confusing as a kid, right? That's got to be really confusing. Well, I would go to my chips. I'd eat a bag of corn chips.

And I didn't know that they were inflammatory. So we're going to talk about how corn and oil and all this stuff can age us and make us sick. But I was eating all the crap that you could eat. I was eating fast food, French fries, a lot of just everything I could to feel better. And so if you go to my Instagram at Jorge Cruz, I mean, there are a lot of fat pictures. I mean, I always do throwbacks on Thursday of me back in the fat days, you know, and if you Google just Jorge Cruz fat on Google, I mean, just tons of pictures from when I was on Dr. Oz or with Oprah or the Today Show, all of my appearances. I always try to tell people that I'm not perfect, although there are a

lot of trainers, celebrity trainers in LA that never were fat, but I think that's my edge. And that's where I can relate to a lot of people that may be listening that have five, 10, 20, 30 pounds to lose right there. If you do listen in, because we're going to talk about it, right, Lauren? Right. And you know, I want to know if there was a moment in time that you can really go back to where you were like, I want to lose weight. Is there, was there an epiphany or was it slow? What did that look like? You know, for me, I was so passionate about health and I went to UCSD in La Jolla, studied there. And I knew you went to Torrey Pines. You're kind of San Diego guy, right? I love San Diego, grew up there. That's where my family, I was born outside

of the country, but that's where I was raised was in Southern Cali. And, you know, growing up, you know, I was born in 1971. I hate to say it. I'm almost 48. I'm going to be 48 this year. And you're an anomaly because honestly, and I don't, don't take this the wrong way, but I think you actually look better than you did when you were younger. Well, fuck. Because you were showing us. Skin is so glowy because you have your healthy fats. It is.

From everything from avocado to nut butter to woo. Yeah. To woo. But now, but I, but I, well, thank you for saying that. That's really, cause you were showing us all those pictures this weekend. You know, we were going back in time. We'll say, Whoa, who the fuck is that? Yeah, no, I do feel like a different person. I mean, a lot has happened since 20 years ago, you know, and in the 20 years I've been a trainer, 25, I've been a celebrity trainer. You know, I've been on Oprah to Tony Robbins being my first client, writing the introduction to my first book. I've written now over 36 books. Cruise Control, which we're going to talk about, is I think the, I hate to use a big

fancy word, but it's the amalgamation of 20 plus years of me writing books. What does that mean? That means the accumulation. The accumulation. So am I Michael's, how do I say it? Amalgamation. Yeah. You are the amalgamation of a lot of trial and error.

Oh my God. I want him to call me that from now on. The amalgamation. It sounds intense. It sounds like a monster. But she's not a monster. She's precious. She is precious.

Looks can be deceiving. Oh, wow. Anyways, let's get back to the amalgamation of my books. So this new book on intermittent fasting, which we're going to talk about, really has given me in the last three years, because I've trained out people in Malibibu from Brooke Burke to Steve Harvey. And I've really been lucky that I've had a long career. One of my buddies as a celebrity trainer is Gunnar Peterson. He's been in the business for years.

He works with the Kardashians. We actually worked together. I was on Revenge Body with Khloe and got really close to Khloe Kardashian. She's such a great woman because when I first heard about Revenge Body, you guys remember about it. I thought it was right after the Lamar incident and all that stuff. And I was like, I don't know if I want to be connected to a show that's about getting revenge on your, your ex after, you know, it was with prostitutes and all that. And they're like, no, no, no, it's not about that. It was really about people who had unhealth or were unhealthy in their life

and wanted to get revenge on their past. And that I could relate to because I hated the way I felt. I hated the way it looked for all my 20s and most, I'd say right till mid-20s because then I finally kind of discovered exercise. And that's what my first book was about. It's called Eight Minutes in the Morning. And it was a book on strength training to build lean muscle to burn fat.

Now I wasn't doing HIIT training. Now I work with like Brooke Burke. She and I, I mean, she's same age, 47, which is gonna be 48 next year. And she's hotter in a string bikini right now. If you guys Google search Brooke Burke, she went dancing with the Burke. She's the same age, 47, which is going to be 48 next year. And she's hotter in a string bikini right now. If you guys Google search Brooke Burke, she won Dancing with the Stars. She was the host for Seven Seasons. I mean, she's 47, a mom of four. And she looks hotter than ever before. She just posted something where she was like 10 years ago on the cover of Shape

Magazine. And now she just posted a picture that she took on the beach. She's hotter now, 10 years later. She looks hotter than an 18-year-old on spring break drinking a skinny pina colada. Well, that is a testimonial. Brooke, did you hear that? Amen. And she does, right? She really does.

I mean, no BS. And she used to be on a horrible diet when she was in her 20s and 30s. Not a horrible diet, but I've had her on my podcast, Cruise Control, and we talked about what she ate back in the day to look healthy. She'd have a can of tuna with a dollop of applesauce and she'd sprinkle dry oatmeal. And that was her lunch. I mean, eating out of a can. And now, you know, she and I will hang out. She's like my bestie. We're kind of like the Will and Grace of Malibu. You know, she's my grace. I'm her will. And, you know, she's going through a breakup and, you know, it's hard because in life, when you have challenges like that, you want to, you want to eat, you know?'s my grace i'm her will and you know she's going through a breakup and you know it's hard because in life when you have challenges like that you want to you want to eat you know and

so she does eat though and we'll go out we'll have like we'll go to cafe habana like cindy crawford's restaurant in malibu we need to go there that's our next spot let's go cafe habana great guac and chips and they also have cucumbers as chips so we'll talk about little i'm in sign me up i love a hack an endive lettuce for a chip yeah yeah oh you can do that too endives So we'll talk about little hacks. I'm in. Sign me up. I love a hack. An endive lettuce for a chip. Yeah. Oh, you can do that too. Endives. But we'll go have dinner there, whether it's that, or we'll go to Italian or we'll go to Nobu in Malibu. And we'll have a glass of wine. I mean, you can eat on this diet. When you understand how to eat in an eight hour time restricted window, it sounds restricting, but it gives you so much freedom because during that eight hours, you eat almost anything you want. Hopefully it's anti-inflammatory. That's kind of the diet I like because, you know, at 47, 48 now, I don't

want to look old, you know, and thank you for guys for saying that I don't, but I don't want to get old in 10 years either. I want to, I want to, I feel like a lot of what I've done has been just getting ready for unleashing a movement. I don't even think of it as a book, even though it's out April 2nd, cruise control, I think is going to be a movement. And I'm so excited that you guys have kind of been in the movement with me. We're trying, we're trying. I want to, for someone that's listening that has no fucking idea what intermittent fasting is, I want to really dissect it. So the first thing I would ask you is to explain intermittent fasting to someone that has no

clue what it is in a very simple way. Sure. I mean, intermittent fasting is when you eat in an, usually in an eight hour window and you fast, which means you don't eat for 16 hours. What are the other options? Cause I know there's other options. Yeah. There's some people that will do, and I'll do this on occasion. I'll have some clients that will do a 20 hour fast and they'll only eat in four hours. There's some people do 12 hours, you know, but what the has done, and for Cruise Control, this book that's out April 2nd, I interviewed probably, I mean, Alex, my right hand will tell you, she's here in the studio, but I probably interviewed like 12

people. And I interviewed Dr. Panda. He's the premier guy. His name is Dr. Sanchi Panda. He's at the Salk Institute in La Jolla. And Dr. Panda, as kind of cute as his name is, he wrote a book called The Circadian code. And it's really based on deep research about how our bodies are designed, you know, since the dawn of time, since we were human to eat with the sun. And this has to do with the circadian rhythm. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's really so intermittent fasting. It's just you going back to your original blueprint. Okay. And the ideal window that he suggests is 16 hours. Okay. So what would you say to someone who says that sounds like you're starving yourself? Because I know you're going to get a lot of questions about this. So let's just address it. And you know, I've been a trainer now in LA for all these years. I mean, and I'll tell you, most people in Hollywood are starving themselves to fast. You know, and there's some people that will just eat

one meal and it's a tiny little salad with a little miso soup or something and that's it and they are starving and they get used to it they just suffer i mean people in la like new york they're tough but my clients whether it's brooke or steve harvey they don't suffer because i cheat the fast with healthy fats and so i brought on this table and we'll talk about it i brought some of my favorite healthy fats f-a-f-a-t right because that's the f-word most people, and Lauren, you probably can attest this. You've met a lot of famous people in LA. Most people are scared of the F word, fat. They're like, oh my God, I can't eat that because it's so high in- Fat. Calories, fat, and all this. And it's like, oh, I got to be low-cal. But what's ironic,

if you can use fats, especially in the morning, what I call the bumper zone. So imagine you eat, like I eat my lunch at one and I'll have dinner like at six, right? So it's a normal eight hour window gives me time to eat. And sometimes we talked about kind of customizing it for you guys where I think Lauren, you were going to eat later. Yeah, let's talk about how you customize it. Before you do that, because I know how our listeners are

and there's going to be, I know how our listeners are and there's a lot of people, I think we have a healthy skepticism here, both Lauren and I do as well. For people that want to know a little bit more of the science behind this, right? Because a lot of people, think we we have a healthy skepticism here both lauren and i do as well yeah for people that want to know a little bit more of the science behind this right because a lot of people they hear the word starving and not eating and they think okay that's that's unhealthy that doesn't work but understanding the science behind why it could be beneficial to fast you're the perfect person to ask you know another good source of healthy fats michael what lauren oh i know more play woo more play guys this is a game changer taylor don't

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hungry. So imagine always feeling full. And we'll talk about how we do that in the morning and at night, because in the morning, you know, if you're skipping breakfast and you're having lunch at one or two, you know, what do you do so you're not starving? And so we'll talk about that because we cheat it with healthy fats. But even going more granular, like understanding what the benefits of the body are for a fasting period. Here's the number one word out there.

And this is your dollar word, guys. This is like the big college word here. It's called autophagy. And autophagy simply means your body does housekeeping. So it's like if you're staying at a fancy hotel or even whatever, and you go out and they clean your room and they kind of reset it, autophagy is when your body does housekeeping. And not just housekeeping to burn belly fat or to use adipose tissue that's stored in our abdominal region,

which is the most dangerous for heart disease, cancer, type 2 diabetes. All the issues come with a high waist circumference. So that's part of the housekeeping. That goes away. But then if you have cells in your body that are possibly damaged in some way, I'm not going to say they're malignant, but they're not healthy cells, your body also gets rid of them during the cytophagy. Free radicals?

Yes. When you have free radical damage, when you are, I mean, a lot of people drink alcohol. When you drink alcohol, I hate to say it as much as we can talk about that. But a lot of my clients like Brooke and I will have glasses of wine. There's a way to do that. But what happens when you have alcohol, I mean, it destroys tissue. And so you have dead cells in your body after you eat certain things. And so how do you get rid of that? So your body through autophagy, giving it a 16 hour window where you're not eating, and we'll be specific, you're not eating carbs and proteins. Are you doing fats? We were going to talk about that, because that's the one macro that doesn't raise insulin. And that is the cha-ching moment, as Oprah would say, the aha

moment. If you can know that healthy fats, and we'll talk about dangerous fats, make sure we talk about that, because there's some fats that will age the F out of you. They literally break, like corn oil or soybean oil. We'll talk about that. But healthy fats curb your appetite. Don't raise insulin. If you don't raise insulin, you cheat your body. Your body thinks you're still not eating, and yet you're not hungry. Does that make sense?

Yes. I want to know, going back to the benefits, you also told us that it doesn't do something for your HDH, or am I saying that wrong? No, no, it does. It improves hormone levels in both women and men. So talk a little bit about the, all the little benefits. But really like just dumbing, I mean, I don't say dumbing it down, but really like at the most simple level, it's giving your body an adequate time to recover and repair. And in our life, we're always go, go, go. And I tell people, if you want the fast life,

you know, a bit of a pun intended, like if you want to fast, but also go fast, you got to slow down. But the way you slow down, it's just doing less. And that means eating less, but not all the macros. It's not like, all right, oh, it's the morning. I'm going to just have black coffee. I'll have black coffee in the morning or an espresso. But by nine or 10, like today, I had a cup of coffee with butter, grass-fed butter in it. And we talked about the brands we like and all that, right? But you want something healthy, like a grass-fed butter, or it can be coconut oil. Kerrygold.

Kerrygold. I do a European butter sometimes. If I'm having a muffin, I'll do like a European butter. That's really good too. No, I mean, butter is good. Coconut oil, MCT oil. We can talk about that. Medium chain triglyceride comes from coconut oil. But there's a whole plethora of healthy fats, and they all will stop your hunger. So you take some fat, boom, for two to three hours, you're not hungry. So then you're not eating and then you're fasting, but your body doesn't know you had that oil because your insulin doesn't go up. And if your insulin doesn't go up, that's the bottom line. You still have autophagy going on. So

you're still cleaning. So it's like you're in the room while they're cleaning, but you're invisible, kind of like with Harry Potter, like a close-up. I'll say this. And you don't know you're there. And so your body thinks you're not eating, and yet you're not hungry. I've done this now, like, even before we met, was kind of on and off testing. I had, you know, Jillian was on the show. She's a fan. I love Jillian. Shout out to Jillian.

We love her. Hi, Jillian. And then, you know, we've obviously been talking. I've been doing it. I will tell you this. I don't feel hungry. I feel very focused, and I feel like I have a lot more energy throughout the day. And by the way also dr

steven gundry likes intermittent fasting ingrid who's been on the podcast who's a wellness and fitness experts loves intermittent fasting and so does the food babe there's been a lot of people across the board brooke burke loves it but there's a lot of people in your field and i won't generalize everybody yeah yeah that are adamantly against it and most of the time you know i try to look what i look at is like listen you're a guy you in good shape. You've trained a lot of people with a lot of good results. I'm like, okay, this guy must know what he's doing. Same with Jillian. Same with Dr. Gundry. Like, okay, there's obviously a pattern here of high performers that are getting some shit done. A lot of times there is a big resistance to this movement. And I know you're basically at

the forefront of it. Like, what would you say to those people? You know, a lot of these people that think, I mean, and I get it because I've only been doing this for three solid years beforehand, go back three years when I was just in Malibu for the first like year. I mean, I was testing this out and I thought, Oh God, what happens if I pass out? My blood sugar is going to be so low. I'm going to, I'm going to literally be working out with Steve Harvey and I'm going to pass out in front of him. How embarrassing is that? You know, the trainer that doesn't even passes out. And there's a lot of, I hate to to literally be working out with Steve Harvey and I'm going to pass out in front of him. How embarrassing is that? You know, the trainer that doesn't even passes out. And there's a lot of, I hate to say it in Hollywood, but a lot of, of fast shaming,

shaming. It's just, oh, you got to eat because what are we told since we were like two years old by our parents? What's the most important meal of the day guys? So do you see how there's a, well, there's a huge... There was an article I showed you guys at brunch, remember? We got to link that article too. Was it Boggs or who is it? Yes, it was. And you remember I was talking about how that is a myth that has been pushed since the Victorian

time period when they invented the milling press. And so usually people that are against that, I'm not saying it, but they may be sponsored by a cereal company. They may be connected to something that... Protein powder or something. Yeah, because there to something that, you know, protein powder. Well, yeah, because there's a lot of companies that sell morning things, you know, and I'm not saying you can't have a protein powder and you can have cereal, but you just have to do it during your eight hour window. And if you're going to break your fast in the morning, then you got to have an early, early dinner, like by two or three. It just depends. We can adjust this window. So

that's the power of intermittent fasting with cruise control. Not only do you cheat the fast, but more importantly, you're going to be able to customize it so it works with your schedule. So if you're a morning person, you have to eat in the morning, you can do that. But if you're a late night person like you, Lauren, you like something at night, right? Yes. And I think what would really help the audience, and I'm really interested in doing this on air, is you customizing a situation for me and Michael, because then we can get it from a female perspective, a male perspective, and you can show us exactly, you know, what this is. So if someone wants to take this, this, the cruise control method and do it at home, they have this sort of outline on the podcast.

Well, and also to give a little bit more context around it, it does, it sounds crazy when you say 16 hours. We really think about it. It sounds intense. Maybe you're closing off three hours before bed, which I think maybe you should. I don't find it intense. Or maybe you're closing four hours when you wake up. You're getting close to that.

It's really just taking that eight-hour window. Yeah. Well, you think about it. We should sleep eight hours. I know I sleep maybe six, sometimes five. I'm about a seven. You're a seven, so that's good. I'm an eight. Don't fuck with me if I don't get five. I'm about a seven. You're seven, so that's good. I'm an eight.

Don't fuck with me if I don't get eight. Don't even say hi. Don't even look or breathe in my direction if I don't have eight. And I'd love eight. You should see me in the morning. I am like a ghoul in there. I'm a ghost. I am so scared to wake her up because it'll fuck the whole week up.

No, here's what you do, ladies. If you don't want your husband to wake you up. You condition them. So every time they wake you up, you scream, you cry. I've cried before. Like theatrics, drama, like Sharon Stone in Casino. No. Shit. Then they start to get scared every time.

I'm legitimately terrified. It's like intermittent fasting. I'm conditioning my husband. He is well-trained. Thank you very much. Well, that's considerate. He's considerate, man. He's a charm. It's like intermittent fasting. I'm conditioning my husband. He is well-trained. Thank you very much. Well, that's considerate. He's considerate, man. He's a gentleman.

Sometimes. Listen, it's out of full selfish interest at this point because I'm going to get my head ripped off. Yeah, we don't want damage. No blood. Let's do my cruise control schedule first. Let's really break it down. Yeah, so imagine we're going to say there's a 16-hour window.

We're going to pretend everyone sleeps eight hours. So that means you have four in the morning and four at night, right? I call those the bumper zone. And if you guys want to see a visual of this, I mean, you can go to JorgeCruz.com. I've got little charts there. The visual is helpful. Yeah. You can go to my Instagram, at Jorge Cruz.

It's all there. But basically, imagine like a circle, like a plate, and divide your day. You know, there's a red zone. I'd simply tell my clients, my celebs, just divide your day into red zone, which is 16 hours of not eating, and eight hours of eating. Now, what do you do for 16 hours? For the most part, you're hopefully sleeping eight of those. So there's the edge and four in the morning and four at night that may be edgy and kind of like, how do I conquer the morning? How do I conquer the night? I call them those bumper zones. So that's where we use healthy fats. So I brought

you guys some oils that I love. I mean, I brought avocado oil, which you can use. What most of my clients use, though, is butter. What Brooke Burke loves is ghee, which is like a clarified butter. We need brands. What ghee do you know? I mean, it doesn't matter. Trader Joe's is okay. Can you go into Brooke Burke's cabinet next time you're at her house? Yeah, we'll take a picture.

Take a picture of the ghee and put it on your Instagram, please. Done, of course. I don't ask for much. No, no. Go ahead. And she'll probably invite you guys on, too. We do a Facebook Live. So if you guys will come, we'll video it all.

But ghee is good. And you can go to Trader Joe's. It doesn't have to be like some bougie brand. It can be. It can be as much as you want to spend. You can go to Trader Joe's and get coconut oil. You can get Kerrygold butter there. I mean, Trader Joe's has it all.

You can go to Whole Foods. You can go wherever you want. You can order on Amazon. But I love these little satchels. They're ready to go. They're from Fat Bombs. F-Bombs. They're awesome. Love them because they're convenient. I'm going to get Michael Ghee. I think you need Ghee. Ghee is good, but you can also do heavy cream. Here's the bottom line. Pick a fat that has no carbs or protein. You can't do half and half because it's half sugar

pretty much. You can't do milk. You can't do almond milk. You can't do coconut milk because a lot of times it has sugar, carbs. I found out I was doing intermittent fasting wrong first five months because I was doing unsweetened almond milk. And that's not bad, but it has a little bit of carbs. So what we do is we go with a hundred percent fat in the morning. What about if the almond milk has literally nothing in it besides water and almonds? What if I found an almond milk that has just water? It has no carbs or sugar. Literally not one thing besides. No protein. But then you're fine. It's water.

Got it. That's fine. Just check your labels. Hopefully it has some fat. Does it have fat? He's looking at you pretty skeptically. It's Plenish. It sounds like water.

Are you sure it wasn't water? It's Plenish. That's the brand. I'll send you a picture of it. Please. All right. So we'll check it out. But what I do want you to have, as much as that's in there, you got to have some fat

in there if you're hungry. Now, here's what I tell my celebrity clients. So if I get up, like I'm crazy, I'm up at four in the morning. I'm live at five with a lot of my clients streaming workouts. We're doing all this crazy shit. I'll have a cup of coffee though. I have my espresso at four. I just do. Then at five, I'll have one more drink. Then by six, I'm hungry. I'm like, shit, I have to eat something, but I'm not. So what I do is I'll have my coffee with two tablespoons of grass fed butter, either that or two tablespoons of heavy cream or two tablespoons of coconut butter. If you do MCT oil, only do a teaspoon because I write about it in the book.

You'll get what I call, quote, unquote, tummy troubles. I get a stomach ache from MCT oil. Listen, you don't want to be running to work shitting yourself. You know what I mean? You literally will shit your pants. That's the tummy trouble. Oh, my God. Let's do that to Taylor when we want to fuck with him.

I'm going to put MCT oil in your... It's the tummy trouble. Oh my God. Let's do that to Taylor when we want to fuck with him. I'm going to put MCT oil in your... It's so healthy. And it is healthy, but it's so slick. I'd rather you just do coconut or do a small amount of MCT oil. But it is the Ferrari of oils, MCT oil. It is the one that holds your appetite up the best. But you have to use less. It's counterintuitive.

You have to use less. If you use all of it, you're like, oh, I don't want to eat all day. I'm just going to use the whole thing of MCT oil. You'll be in the bathroom all morning you don't want that we have been talking a lot about health here a lot about getting the right hours of sleep intermittent fasting i wanted to let you guys know one of the keys to sleep for me because i was sleeping like shit for a very long time has been cbd using c CBD, and specifically cured nutrition. The product that I really love is the Cured Zen.

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So remember, tell them what I did. I had to shift your eating block to start at what time? We said basically right after 2 o'clock. Yes, and I eat late, you guys, because I'll have meetings at night. We just go out late. So I stop eating at 10. So 10. And so you're going to start eating.

And drinking. And drinking. If I'm having wine, you stop drinking and eating at 10. Get your alcohol. Get all your macros. The carbs is wine is carbs. I hate to say it, but it's sugar, right? You do your proteins, your fats, all that during your healthy eight hour window. But for you, since you're eating so late, we started you later for lunch.

And you could also, if you could stop eating at eight if you wanted to. But for me, we stopped me at 10. So then I'm sleeping my eight hours. So I wake up at 7 30 yeah when i wake up you told me not to do the buttered coffee because i'm not hungry unless you're hungry do a black coffee or now i can use my plenish almond milk yeah you can shout out to ingrid for recommending that brand but add some fat in there because that thing does probably has no fat sounds like you said for the first coffee for the first iish is still up for review. For the first, I'm at 730. I'm not a 4 a.m. type of person.

Right, right. I don't want to kill anyone. No, no, no. You'd be in trouble already. I'll pull a knife. But I will say there's one more hack in the morning that you guys have to do. And you see it on here. What is this?

It's H2O. That's what I do. I chug 16 ounces. I do that. We have my hydro flask. I love it. All ice in it, ready to go go freezing cold in the morning with mint ginger and lemon i know how chic i thank you so we do the water first and then we do a black coffee

with plenish yes cinnamon perhaps beautiful to balance the blood sugar okay michael you need a little cinnamon in your coffee maybe a splash of turmeric is that okay yeah yeah okay spices are fine i like a specific calories okay bring them on then, so when I start to feel hungry around nine, this is what you recommended to me is to add some type of fat to the coffee situation. That's two tablespoons. So go up and you can mix it. I mean, if I go to Starbucks and I'm lazy, I'll just ask them to do two caps, which is about a tablespoon of heavy cream, but it's over the counter. If you follow my Insta stories, guys, I usually do Starbucks at least twice a week. And I'll go with my kids. Usually because I have two sons, I have a 14 year old and a 12 year old and they do the same thing. They're doing it.

And if people wonder like how young is too young or how old is too old, do it at any time. Okay. So, but, but the other hack I was saying is water. Water. And I want to, I want to say this because, and I see that you guys have the best water here. Yeah. We were talking about that. We're getting rid of the plastic bottles and we're getting this at our house yeah this is great this is the mountain valley but water is so important and make sure it's mineral water guys oh yeah that's the mineral water mineral water and you need minerals listen to that yeah that's really like so good thank you so healthy so okay so the wait hold on i have one more question michael so then i can start eating my window to start eating is. Yours is two o'clock.

Two o'clock. 2 p.m. Which I've been doing, you guys, and it hasn't been hard at all. But I want to say this because I want to make sure that this is like out to everyone. Yeah. I have been trying this on myself as a human guinea pig. I like it. That doesn't mean it's blanketly going to work for everyone.

If you're like suspicious about it, consult your doctor. This has worked for a lot of my friends. So I would recommend looking into it, but be your own guru. No, totally. And you got to go through your body, but I will say this, the science is go back to your question. We're finally answering your question here. The science on autophagy is it's like, it's, it's, you know, you always hear that the body can heal itself. I mean, really smart doctors understand that medicine doesn't heal it. It just aids your body and it's natural healing. And if you want to fat-proof your body, if you want to age-proof your body and disease-proof your body, there's nothing in my 25 years of working with high-end people and being a trainer and 20 years of being an author, and I've written

36 other books, I would put my whole reputation on intermittent fasting as being the thing out of all the things I've learned from HIIT training to eating macros and doing the popcorn diet, the cabbage soup, eating bone broth. I mean, there's so many hacks, there's so many tricks to losing weight and getting healthy and feeling good. I would say intermittent fasting from libido to anti-aging to whatever it is that is wrong, or you feel like your body has some sort of, I hate to use the word dis-ease, but there's not this ease to your body where you feel tired and old and fat or whatever. This is like, I mean, literally you can lose 28 pounds in 28 days. I mean, it's like a pound a day if you have weight

to lose. Okay. This is really important to discuss too. Can you give us an example of someone like Brooke Burke who looks amazing? What is she eating in her eight hours? I need so i need to know exactly more importantly though not just someone like her but i want you to also really clarify in this eight hour window it's not that you're not yeah eating you're no explain really what you're eating because i want people to understand that are listening so let's talk about that they start eating in this i don't want people to to be hungry and passing out like during this eight hour window what can they eat how much can they eat etc no this is critical guys because when you're eating i have a blueprint i give away to all my clients for free if you go to horicruz.com you just get it for free when you you get my book if you get the book you get the blueprint immediately so you don't have to wait for it

online and what i tell my clients is when you eat you want to eat 50 healthy fats 30 uh good carbohydrates you need carbs guys i'm going to talk about that. Which ones, though, I'll tell you in a second here. And this is kind of a map. Take a look at this. You can see it here. There's a little chart I have for everyone here. So when you're in the red zone, when you're burning fat, it's 100% fat during your fast. That's the only macro you can have that doesn't raise insulin. But during your eating zone, you want 50% fat, 30% carbs, and 20% protein. And a lot of people are like, why is the protein so low, Jorge? That should be higher because protein suppresses appetite.

And it does. And for years, I mean, Brooke Burke would eat a can of tuna, right? Straight up protein with a dollop. We're talking a dollop of applesauce. That's not much carbohydrate, right? It's like a tablespoon. And sprinkled dry oatmeal. That's what she ate in the 90s to stay hot.

You know, she ate a can of tuna and that was it. It was like all protein. What the scientists show me, you go too high on protein. It puts a task, puts a big task on your, your kidneys and it can be very toxic. So you don't want to overdo protein. You don't want to sit down and go straight up, eat steak for lunch, steak for dinner and steak, steak, steak. You don't want to, you don't need that. It's too much protein, but the healthy fats are critical because if you can do 50% healthy fats, and let me just throw this in here, guys, there's certain fats that are fucking the devil. You got to avoid vegetable oils, all. And I hate to say it, but all vegetable oils from

canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil. And I hate to say it because I love Whole Foods, but you go to Whole Foods deli and hopefully someday they'll change. But almost every salad dressing that they serve in their deli has corn oil or soybean oil or canola oil. You know what I like for salad dressing? Zero calories, zero everything. Which one? Champagne vinaigrette. That one is great. You can't go wrong with it. You do a little lemon, some Italian herbs. It's delicious. Now, the one thing I would add to that is like an avocado packet from F-Bomb or something. Or like one of my favorite brands of salad dressings is made from avocado oil. It's called Primal Kitchen. You guys have tried that, right? By my buddy, Mark Sisson. And he's so

smart. I mean, Kraft just purchased this company. They're going to take it global. So if you haven't heard of Primal Kitchen, it's going to be out there. I mean, it's ever. Kraft now is behind it. And that's how this is moving. And that's the kind of salad dressing i use and i use quite a bit you know i use because you need that oil to suppress your appetite or you're going to be snacking all throughout the day and so if i have my lunch say at one o'clock or like lauren does it too i'm going to sit down have a big ass salad you know it's probably you know the 30 percent of of carbs is going to be in the salad. I'll do probably a whole avocado. I know that sounds shocking, but I brought this stress ball avocado, which is kind of

cute to squeeze. That's just half an avocado. I would do at least a half an avocado, ladies. And if you really have a big appetite, and I don't know, Lauren, do you have a big appetite or medium appetite when you eat? How hungry do you get? I don't. My biggest problem is that I'll wait too long to eat and then stuff my face.

You will. Not stuff. Like I'll just, I'll be like famished. Not, I don't, my appetite's not so big. I'd rather snack. But sometimes I have a problem with taking too long because I'm working, moving, whatever. You're busy. But see, like these little satchels of fat, like these are great for me.

Just run and go. Easy. And then whether it's, you know, nut butter or an avocado oil or coconut or coconut it's like you throw it in your purse you rip it and go and in four seconds you're not hungry can you give us an like give us a mock-up example of someone that that's a woman that's eating in this eight hour window i'm gonna give you yeah like give us exact yeah so i know brooke you know she teaches a booty burn in malibu so i go to that once once a week usually and she's got a great booty. You know, she's known for that.

And the best time to work out, guys, is when you're not eating. It's when you're fasting. You'll burn more fat. So don't eat. Don't have a protein shake before you go work out because you're going to break your fast. Try to work out in the morning. My first book called Eight Minutes in the Morning. You're also going to be more successful.

So what Brooke does, she teaches. She has her water. She drinks like 16 ounces of water, mineral water. She usually puts, I've got her this light show. I think, is that what it's called Alex? Light show minerals that you just squeeze in this magnesium, potassium, sodium. If you can't do that, do a little Himalayan salt, sea salt, Himalayan sea salt, or just Himalayan salt into your water that adds really good minerals. And it's pink usually, but it's good for women because it's high in iron. So that's good. That'll suppress your appetite. You'll absorb the water better. I usually have two of those glasses of water. If it's 16 ounces, one is enough. Usually then I'll have my coffee,

usually black. She'll have a black as well. Then usually by nine, before she teaches her class, she'll have a cup of butter coffee. She loves butter. There's so many pictures of her. Ghee or butter? She loves ghee. She loves butter. It just depends when we're traveling. We're doing an event next week in Dana, is it Dana Point, Alex? Her Brookbrook Body Retreats. They're amazing. We do them about every other two months. And I do all the nutritional aspect.

I teach cruise control to all our high-end ladies. And they come. And so we do this diet with them. They live it. We'll have to invite you. You have to come. Yeah, that would be fun. It's going to be so chic.

And you would love it. So regardless, she'll have that in the morning. She'll have her first coffee probably around nine and then maybe another one right after her work at a 10 or 11 something like that but then the way she breaks her fast she's a big smoothie girl i mean brooke has on camera a million times she goes to either sun life organic in malibu you know we have them over here in southern cali and shout out to khalil he's the owner of these sun life organics have you guys been it's like it's like check it out yeah there's one at the Century City Mall here.

It's kind of like Jamba Juice, but healthier. And what's the smoothie order? We need specifics. Oh yeah, it's pretty much all healthy high fats, avocado oil, macadamia butter. I mean, it's 50% fat, but she's breaking her fast. So 50% of the shake is fat, healthy fat. So I know that's shocking.

But they're like, no, no, I want zero calories. No. If you're breaking the fast and you've been doing your job for 16 hours, you want healthy fats, then carbs. She'll do spinach. She'll do a lot of greens. Greens are your friend. You know, not that you can't have blackberries, blueberries. We talked about that at brunch. You can put some of those in there, but those are the darker ones and they're less sugary. It's those bright colored fruits like bananas. I hate to say it. Where's our banana? It's all sugar. It's like as much sugar as a Coca-Cola. So I'm not saying that's bad. It's got fiber and potassium, but you know, not all of us need that, especially if we're trying to shed five or 10 or 20 pounds, you just don't need that, you know? And so she'll have that throw in some macadamia nuts,

blend it all up. And it's, it's like a million dollar smoothie. It's so delicious. I doubt it's less than 600 calories though. It's probably 6,800 calories out one smoothie because the fat is so rich and it's so filling. So that holds her up till dinner. And then at dinner- Any more coffee or no? The coffee's over. You know, usually when you break the fast and you eat that much at one time- You're done. You're good. And after two o'clock, you usually don't want coffee anyways because it has caffeine. You could do tea though. We'll talk about that because at night she'll have tea. And after two o'clock, you usually don't want coffee anyways, but it has caffeine. You could do tea though.

We'll talk about that, but at night she'll have tea. And I've taught her how to use healthy fats at night in case she gets hungry at night. You can do it like an herbal tea. Okay. What about dinner? All right, so let's talk dinner. So after her 800 calorie smoothie, she's not eating until dinner. So what's at dinner?

I bet it holds her up. I mean, there's no shitting you. Like guys, like she literally, no pun intended on the MCT oil, but she probably goes all the way till six or seven because I work with her and we work hard. I mean, she's doing shoot. She's doing her stuff for her Brooke, Brooke body app. She is working her tail off.

She's a mom of two kids. She's picking up kids from school. I mean, she's going, she does a lot. She's a bit, she's not sitting at home. Some housewife just doing her nails. She's working, you know, and high energy. And she always says it's mad energy. She has, she's a bitch she's not sitting at home some housewife just doing her nails she's working you know and high energy and she always says it's mad energy she has she's like me she's like i don't know if anybody's like you brooke brooke is well alex will attest she and i are like kindred spirits brooke and i really feel

like kind of like you guys are you know you guys are like quite the yin and yang she's my yin to my yang and brooke has become like my bestie. But, you know, she's high energy. And then what she'll have at dinner is like, and that's where I'll usually join her. Give specifics. Yeah. Like if it's going to Cafe Habana, we'll have tacos. We'll have fajitas. So you can have rice.

You can have beans. You can have all the things you think are naughty. If we go to Italian near Cafe Habana, there's a Trotty Nor. Is that it, Alex? Super. Farrah Fawcett used to love that restaurant. Fun fact. I just read about it in her book with Alana Stewart. Yes. Oh, it's like there's every who's who. We tried that one. The Kardashians are there a lot and it's off the grid. Tridy North. It's so delicious. They have this amazing gluten-free

pizza. You know what I might do? I might even edit that part out because I don't want it to be on the grid. Okay. No, I'm just kidding. I'm not. One time I edited on a, uh, I edited on a massage parlor that I go uh i edited on a massage parlor that i go to oh a massage i'll give it to you i'll give you the information there's a there's a foot massage hole on the wall that we go to that he won't tell anyone about she put on the show she almost put me on blast i gotta listen i gotta have these i'll just share secretly on my instrument okay go on so you go to italian what do you get so if it's italian we'll have pizza literally we'll have pasta now i'll spiralize like at it's Italian, we'll have pizza. Literally, we'll have pizza. We'll have pasta. Now, I'll spiralize. Like at Tridy

North, they'll have zucchini noodles. Oh yeah, they do with meat sauce, with cheese, parmesan. I'll take you guys. We'll go. They have gluten-free pizza. I mean, it's so worth the 45-minute drive to Malibu. I know it's like in the middle of nowhere. I love a 45-minute drive. You can multitask in the

car. And it's a beautiful drive. You see the sunset? Yeah, look, Michael, look outside. Okay, so what about if you're at home? And then, oh, wait, and then wine. Oh, wine. Brooke and I have wine. I mean, she enjoys- Red or white?

She loves red. So do I. Or, you know, rosé in the day, if we've done that. We've done that as well. And the thing is, but we get it all in that eight-hour window. So we have our cutoff. Like, for me, with me and Brooke, it's usually around 8 o'clock. So by 8 o'clock, you've had your glass of wine no more than two and you

let's also note that you wake up at four so this is different than someone like me for me if my glass of wine's at 9 45 it's okay you're having you're eating much better chug the bottle before 10 no i'm just kidding drink drink drink drink drink right but then you you and then once you once you're relaxed right you've had your vino? You've had your vino and you're full. That's when Michael should approach me. There's a window. His window. I got a window.

You should add your window of when to approach me on your chart, your cruise control. Add his window of when to approach me. It's between 8 and 10. He can charm you then, right? I'm fed. I'm nice. I'm buttered up. Loosened up.

Maybe put another color like a. Blue. Yeah. The color in the red. We have the red and we have the blue. Maybe add like another, a third color that I get my window so I can. Like bright, like orange or what would it be like? One to a pink.

Obviously. Yeah. Can we make a pink? Okay. So then you, you finished at eight and then you guys are off to bed. I would assume at 10. You know, Brooke can stay up late and I do too, but sometimes I can't sleep. And I, you know, I do a lot of recovery stuff at night to recoup. I do a hot infrared sauna. I do red light therapy.

That's good for your skin. I do a lot of stuff to calm me down because I am Latin. I mean, I'm a Latin guy. I am a hot cup of coffee and I got to cool myself off at night. And usually I'll do something like that, or I'll do hot to cold. I'll do an ice cold shower and they'll do the sauna. I love here in town. I go, we have to cold. I'll do an ice cold shower and they'll do the sauna. I love here in town. I go, we have to take you guys. Justin Beaver goes there. Last time I was there, he was there.

The Voda spots, a Russian spa here in West Hollywood. Voda. That's my secret place. I actually need to go and meet him actually. And I'll tell you why. He's always there. I've run into him twice. He almost hit me with his car last time.

It's a whole ordeal. But then I stupidly got drunk and I was with my friend and I made this bet for this jacket I really like. I was like, okay, the bet is that I will get a picture and like send it to you because she's obsessed with him. Yeah.

And I'm really, I don't think I'm going to win the bet. So he's there. I think Gillian's going to win. I need to go over there and get this picture. I don't need to hang out with him. I just need to get this picture

and send it to her so I can keep my jacket. We don't need your whole life story. I just want to know my intermittent fasting schedule. But point being is I'll just do things like that at night to calm down

because a lot of us, what would we do? After we eat, we watch TV. now. Not that I don't watch TV too. I love watching TV, but I'll try to do something that's relaxing for my system. I'll dim all my lights. I learned this from Mariah Carey, no overhead lighting at night. Do you have a salt rock lamp? We talked about this. You need to get the nightlights in your room. It's life changing. A shower with eucalyptus leaves hanging. Little bit of Tibetan bongs. Oh my God, let's bring the bongs back. We basically live in a...

Let's go to Tibet right now. We basically live in a rainforest at this point. Yeah, we do. You've got to get that. You're so zen at night. You have the infrared sauna though. Michael wants to get that. I love that.

I'll hook you up with Sunlight and Sauna. They're the best music for 15 years. We just had somebody else on, and they just told me. This is the second time on this show this has come up this week. Kiana from Kopari said that. She does. Can you introduce me to somebody over there? Totally.

How big are those things? Can they fit on like a... Oh, yeah. They have different sizes. They have like penthouse suites. You can walk in, and you can have like five people. What if you want to have a tea or dessert with... Wait, hold on.

Hold on. On the sauna. Will they come and check out the house and put it in? Yeah, yeah. Of course. They do it all. I'm in. five people what if you want to have a tea or dessert with wait hold on hold on i'm sorry will they come in will they come and check out the house and like put it in yeah yeah of course i'm in do it all i'm in oh they do it all they're amazing it's vip no you'd love it you should do that a lot of my celebrities like anthony robbins has one i mean a lot of people know that i mean if you have trouble sleeping guys this is i'm the guy that's the one book i haven't written yet about how to sleep better but i'm getting better. You know, it's about calming your mind down. And there's certain modalities. Like heat will do that.

Certain light. Weighted blankets. Oh, I love gravity blanket. Do you have one too? Yes. We need to lander our gravity blankets with our salt rock lamps and our infrared saunas. Oh my gosh. We need a picture.

This is going to be too much of all of us snuggling. Michael, do you mind if I come over? We're going to snuggle. That's a fully loaded question. Lauren will be in the middle. I promise we won't get too naughty. Yeah, that's a fully loaded question. Lauren will be in the middle. I promise we won't get too naughty. Yeah, that's a fully loaded question. Yeah, yes.

We'll do it while she's having wine. We'll have wine. Hold on. I have a question about this. What is the dessert that you would recommend? And what is this tea? You said there was a tea. So I don't think I have the book with me here.

So here's a good thing. If you're having a traditional dessert with sugar, so say we're going to Nobu or whatever in Malibu. We're hanging out and we're having something with real sugar and it's wine or whatever, get it in your eight hour window. But, uh, and, and, you know, so once that window ends, what the hell do you do? Right? It's like, am I totally just on water now or just black or, you know, just regular tea. And so the truth is you can do tea, but you can do stevia. I use swerve, which isn't stevia, but stevia can be bitter. I like erythritol. Have you guys heard of erythritol? It doesn't

upset your stomach. It's natural. I don't use artificials. No pink, no yellow, no blue. You know those packets? You know what I like? There's this fiber syrup by sucrine that I like. How much sugar? No sugar? No sugar. I got to send it to you. It's 28 grams of fiber a teaspoon. Oh, that's good. You can do that at night. And I sometimes feel, and I've heard this from some people and you can tell me what you think, that ste good. You can do that at night. And I sometimes feel, and I've heard this from some people, and you can tell me what you think. Of course. That stevia and all the sweeteners can screw with your hormones.

They can. Yeah, no. And so for me- As a woman. Yeah, I haven't used stevia in mass or- Sometimes I like monk fruit. Monk fruit is good. You know about monk fruit, right?

I don't know. I've never tried it. I've just heard. Monk fruit is super good. But I use erythritol, and I love Swerve. It's got a little hummingbird and doesn't scrub your tummy. It's sweet. It looks just like sugar.

If you put it on your hand, you tap it. It's so delicious. So I'll do that in my tea. But then I will put, if it's now, say, 10 o'clock at night, or Brooke and I are hanging on, we're up till midnight or 1 o'clock, you know, 11 o'clock, you had your dinner around 6 or 7, I mean, you're going to be a little hungry, possibly. If that's the case, and it's not a lack of dehydration, a lack of water, then I will have a tea with some healthy fats in there. And that turns off your hunger. Now you can put, like, I remember Steve Harvey, the first time I

introduced this to him, he's like, oh, I am hungry. You know, he's like, and he's in his 60s, you know, and he believes life begins at 60. And so he's doing this for longevity, not just weight loss. He's in great shape. But for him, I had to introduce to him that powder. What was the fiber that we used for him, Alex? The Benafiber, guys. And that you can get at any drugstore. Remember Benafiber? It's the green packet.

That's not going to raise your insulin because there's no sugar in it. And what's the fiber you use? Because when we had brunch, you had a fiber in a little vial. I have my suspicious cocaine vials of inulin. Inulin. Remember in Cruel Intentions? It's a lot of fun going to the airport with her. Remember in Cruel Intentions when she has the necklace with the little Coke spoon?

I have one of those necklaces with inulin in it. I love that. People have asked me, this is simply gangster chic inulin. And it works. No, it does. And you can add a little erythritol to it. And that way it's a sweet fiber. And you can literally pull that out and drop it in your tea at night.

And you'll feel full, no calories, no carbs. And it has the sugar, so it's sweet. So you can do that. So I'll do that at night. But I will say this. In the book, and this is a tease. So if you guys want to check out the book, definitely pre-ordered if this is out before April 2nd. But what I will say is that we have 20 foods and beverages you can actually enjoy.

And I mean enjoy. I mean indulgent, like chocolate pudding. We have a mousse. I have a vanilla chia seed pudding. I mean, I did this on The View in January. I kind of teased it out. We weren't talking about the book directly. But I have these high-fat, like keto-esque desserts that you can have at night that have zero protein, zero carbs.

So if it has zero protein, zero carbs, and it's only fat, what happens to your insulin? Does it go up or does it stay low? Never goes up. So it's like cheating the fast. You can actually have some desserts, like a chocolate mousse tonight after you're eating window. Does that make sense? Well, listen, I knew we were going to be doing this because we've been talking for a little while and what I wanted to do. So what we try to do always on the show is present different perspectives right but at the same time i know like okay if we're going to present this to the audience i'm gonna try it so i will say that i have been trying this for at least a month nice i'm still up every day at five i'm in the gym every day at six you know i'm working all day i'm not hungry i'm not tired i'm more focused and so there is

like whenever i try something like this and get a perspective and yeah and you know i'll do what i can to take a stab at it. I will say of all the different types of, I want to say diets or practices that I've tried. Lifestyles. Lifestyles. This has been probably the most effective for me personally. And so I think that anybody that's listening should at least, you know, do the research, you know, go check out Jorge, go check out some other people, figure out, you know, if this is right for you, but at least give it a try because it, for me, for me, it works. And a really quick question, because I said we would mention it. What's the

difference is, is there a difference between the male and female with cruise control or is it, is it the same all around? You know what the body it's all about insulin, right? And if we can keep our insulin levels low for 16 hours, your body goes through this autophagy, you know, and it's whether you're a little boy, a little girl, whether you're 80, 90, five years old, whatever, your body is going to react the same way. It's going to have do that housekeeping. It's just, it's built into our genetic code. It's, it's part of our ancestral health. I mean, this is the way, if you think about it 2000 years ago, I mean, you know, I grew up Catholic. You never see a fat picture of Jesus on the cross ever. He had a six pack. Everyone back in that time period, you go back to 3,000 years, you were lucky during

the Spartan times, the Roman times to have one good meal a day and you had to go hunt it down. That was your workout. Like go find something to eat. You know, I mean, you didn't wake up and have a bowl of cereal and Pop-Tarts. You didn't have a smoothie in the morning. That's what they used to call like Gout the King's disease because he was the only one that was being gluttonous and getting all the food, right? You know, your history. Yeah. So,

I mean, and now we've all become Kings, unfortunately. And so literally access to food. Yeah. It's so cheap because they subsidize this stuff. And that's why a lot of people are against me saying, or others, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy theory, but there are a lot of companies that would not benefit by having a less meal. I mean, I'm not going to say Taco Bell and created the fourth meal, but you know, their ads a few years ago, they created the fourth meal. I mean, who needs a fourth meal? They did one like a midnight meal, you know, go to Taco Bell and eat some more tacos. I mean, whoa, we don't need four meals a day. You don't guys. Two is all you need. And I'm working on a book. That's going to be a super burn, super burn edition of

this for, for people that really like lauren i know you want to get like in sick shape like even sicker because you're gorgeous like you're beyond gorgeous i want to be like brooke burke style yeah well i mean you're coming to malibu we're going to do booty burn so we're going to tree tridy nor okay we'll go there we'll go yeah love love gluten-free pasta we'll eat spiralized noodles i mean do it all we'll be very chic and bougie and malibu while michael's in his infrared sauna. Oh, yes, of course. You're going to hook me up with that.

You're going to tell me who to talk to. Of course, sunlight and sauna. But more importantly, we're going to enjoy life. I mean, that's what this program's about. You know, the subtitle of the book is about automating your life. And it's a lifestyle for me. And I've been doing it now for over three years. And I have every celebrity I work with on this.

And I can tell you, the results beyond losing weight is you disease-proof your body, which right now, whatever age you're at, you know, there are people that are young people. I was on Revenge Body with Khloe, right? Khloe Kardashian. And the woman that I worked with, Lauren was her name. She's not even 30. She's 28 years old, was morbidly obese at 274 pounds. I mean, I remember everything about her because I worked with her for 12 weeks.

She lost four pounds each week. Thank goodness. But it was hard on her. It really was this mind shift. But once you can get through that mind shift where food isn't a tool that uses you, that you use food. Love it. You got to use food like it's a tool, like your iPhone. Like you're, hopefully you're not addicted to your phone. You use it when you need it and you turn it off when you don't need it. Right. And you have time with your your lady and you have time to what is that time called the purple time that was the pink time oh pink time time for the pink time well you know listen aging like a lot of people don't look at aging like this but aging is a disease you know and we can accelerate it of disease yeah right and so you can be preventative look what i mean i hope you

know jillian looks gorgeous i spent you know i was a super bowl weekend with her at her house and she's a little younger than me, but she looks so gorgeous. She's like a Brooke Burke in a different way, right? Yes. She's amazing. Her skin looks amazing. Yeah.

And she, and she walks this talk, you know, and she understands, you know, she wrote that book on the six keys recently. That's really about longevity. And this is one of her, she talks about it in her book. Before we go, I would like you, and this is a complete tangent off what we just talked about, to give a couple tangible tips to the audience about how the hell you've written 36 books. Is there a writing time?

What do you do there? Just give us a quick spiel of how you do that. Because I want to know for my own selfish reasons. Yeah, literally for 18 years, I wrote two books a year, right? That's how I got to this crazy number. And it's a lot, but back at, you know, when my first book came out in 2001, uh, I had really good advice from Tony Robbins, you know, and I love him to say it was just with him in West Palm beach at his business mastery. I went to date with Dustin. I've been going to his events for 21 years. I'm like, you know, he has that movie on Netflix. You guys all have to

see called. I'm not your guru, even though he's my guru. I'm going to tell him that because he hates it. He's like, but you are, you're like the guy, you're my big brother. He's like my big brother. He's 10 years older than me. And I'll tell you, he taught me that you want to model success. And so for me, I looked at Tony and said, how did Tony write a book in six months? He gave me his insights. He gave me his secrets and he interviewed me. And you know, if anyone out there is thinking of writing, you have, here's the number one thing you have to do. You have to write about something you're passionate about. Would you guys agree?

Because if you're writing about math, or if I was writing about algebra, I don't know, about the planets. I mean, not that I don't like space and all that, but I'd be lost. It'd take me a year to write a book on that. You have to, what Gary Vee, you guys know Gary Vee, says you have to triple down on your strengths, right?

He says that all the time. So I tripled down on my passion, which is not being fat. I wanted wanted to be fit gary v also says he doesn't give a fuck about jupiter well i don't know about jupiter or uranus probably okay i'm joking let's not go there we already did this no he's just making the point of like um yeah you have to learn about space and stuff like that who cares and so for me you know the secret learned for me was i found my passion because i studied political science at ucsd it's i degree in that. I was going to go to law school and I would have been off the wrong path. And thank God Tony Robbins showed up in my life when I was 22 and got me to realize that health is the greatest wealth, right? You guys agree,

not just to be beautiful, to be hot, to be sexy, to have longevity, to have a libido where you can enjoy life. But so you you like you don't have disease you don't feel like at 28 like this gal lauren on revenge body where she's morbidly obese and she's getting married but the doctors are saying uh plan your like you know you got two more years and then you're going to be on all this stuff and you could die at 32 like plan your funeral while you're planning your wedding is that insane and you're not even 30 so that's what i'm saying i'm not saying we have a lot of heavy listeners out there, but if you have weight to lose and you want to get rid of it, it also robs you of what I didn't have, which is

confidence. And I think the greatest gift health gives you, and you guys tell me how you guys feel, but it gives you what, uh, what I would say is fucking confidence. And you need that edge in life to go after whatever it is you want to do, whether it's work, whether it's a relationship, whether, you know, I'm a dad, I have two kids, I have a 14-year-old in high school, I have a 12-year-old. I want to be active with them. You know, we try to do fun trips,

whether it's skiing or the Bahamas or Hawaii, and I want to jump in the water with them. I don't want to be the dad that's like, ugh, my back hurts. I want Michael to be that dad too, why I sit on a chase lounge and sip champagne with my pinky up. Oh, I like that.

Well, listen, I mean, I think people, people work so hard on their careers and relationships and all these things, and then the health goes and it all becomes for nothing because if you're end up, if you're sick or dying or whatever, and you've done all these other things, like, you know, clarity comes into effect real quick when all of a sudden you realize your health's gone. Oh my gosh. I mean, you can't buy it. It's the one thing you can't buy. And, and, you know, and I've met so many wealthy people that have so much money, but they don't have health and they, and you can't buy health. You can't, you have billion

dollars won't get you healthy. And yet all you have to do is, is, is understand how to eat in this eight hour window, how to eat, hopefully anti-inflammatory foods and how to like hack your body. So you can't cheat the fast, you know, you can do that. And there's ways to do it, you know? So I invite everyone to check out cruise control. Yes. Pimp yourself out. Where can they find you on Instagram, your book, everything? Well, uh, you know, it's all at Jorge Cruz.com. It's J O R G E C R U I S C. No relations to Tom Cruise, but you know, my dad is a white man.

So Cruz is not with the Z. A lot of people misspell it, but just Google me. They've been doing that my whole life. Everyone thinks I'm Penelope Cruz is like brother. And bless her heart, I'm not. But you know. Instagram? Everything is at Jorge Cruz. Facebook, everything.

You guys, I do a live stream at 5 a.m. on Facebook. You guys can join me on Instagram. Yeah, I post every day, usually something good about health. And you know, I'm so honored that I met you guys. Because I feel like I obviously owe a debt of thanks to Jillian. Yes. Jillian Michaels connected us. Thank you for connecting us.

Yeah, I love Jillian. And, you know, she is a kindred spirit. I feel like as much as everyone thinks that we're all these celebrity trainers out to fight each other and like, oh, we hate each other. She's been the most gracious. She's the sweetest woman I've ever met. Yeah, she is gracious. She's so sweet. And to connect us here together and now that we can empower more women and men.

I mean, I listen to this. There's a few out there. I got a couple. I got a couple. There's a few out there. I got a couple. There's a couple men out there. Hopefully a smart man at least. Shout out to the guy that's in the bathroom with his girlfriend. The girlfriend's doing her makeup, listening to us, and he's in the background.

I'm getting a lot of runoff from the girls are listening, the guys are like, hey, that was kind of smart there. Yeah, yeah. And I'm excited. It was Dear Media. You guys are really doing some incredible stuff, and I'm just honored to be a part of this. So thank you guys for having me on the show.

It's going to be fun, right? Thank you for coming on. That was so informative. I am off to have my butter inulin coffee. Oh, yeah. Yummy, yummy. And then we'll be back, guys. Thank you so much.

Peace and purpose, guys. Bye. I hope you guys enjoyed that episode with Jorge to win a brand new TSC glittery pink pop socket. Tell us the biggest tip that you just picked up from this episode about intermittent fasting on my latest Instagram at the skinny confidential. I'll slide into you guys' DMs and send a bunch of you some pop sockets, maybe a meal plan. You never know. With that, we will see you on Friday.

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