The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Josh Duhamel On Fame, Hormones, Fatherhood, Longevity, & Finding His Way Back

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

#946: Join us as we sit down with Josh Duhamel – acclaimed actor, director, & producer. From starring in blockbuster hits like Transformers, Shotgun Wedding, London Calling, & Netflix's Ransom Canyon to championing men's health & wellness off-screen, Josh opens up like never before. In this episode, he gets candid about his early days in Hollywood, navigating fame, evolving beyond iconic roles, & ultimately finding his way back to his roots. He shares the lessons that shaped him, how he prioritizes fitness & longevity, & why he's focused on redefining wellness for men.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Josh Duhamel click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   To learn more about GATLAN visit https://gatlan.com and use code TSC15 for 15% off your first purchase.    This episode is sponsored by The American Beverage Association Visit http://goodtoknowfacts.org for more information.   This episode is sponsored by Mara Labs Visit http://mara-labs.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY for 25% off.   This episode is sponsored by Kion Visit http://getkion.com/skinny for 20% off.    This episode is sponsored by IQBAR Text SKINNY to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply.   This episode is sponsored by Paleovalley Head to http://paleovalley.com/skinny for 20% off your first purchase   This episode is sponsored by Taylor Farms To learn more visit http://TaylorFarms.com.   This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics If you want to try the Premium Starter Kit, head to http://BranchBasics.com and use code SKINNY15 for 15% off your first order.     Produced by Dear Media

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My modeling career was very short, but I knew that I wanted to get into this. Started auditioning for TV commercials, and Scott Sedita was my first coach who said, you should take my normal class, so I did. And that's how I really sort of fell in love with it. And what was your first big break that you had, that you were like, I'm on to something? You know, for me in the beginning, it was just so, as a kid coming from North Dakota, but I was terrified. I had never been around anything.

I'd never been in front of a camera. Had people like you two looking at me, expecting me to say something interesting. And I was really intimidated. I wasn't comfortable. But then there was something that happened in an audition for this movie called, it was an adaptation of the picture of Dorian Gray.

It was a student film that we shot over in Bulgaria. But in the audition, he had to lose it. He had to, like, lose it. And something came over me, and I just lost it in this audition. And I could see on their faces that, oh my God. And I knew right there that I got the job. And it was that moment that I felt like I'd broken through, broken out of the fear and the self-doubt.

And I think that was my first time I sort of felt like I could do this for real. I always knew that I could if I could get over the fear and the, you know, the terror of, you know, being vulnerable in front of people. And especially in front of a camera. Do you feel like this is something that individuals can. can learn or do you feel like it's something you're just kind of instinctually know how to do? Like Billy Bob Thornton was just talking about, he's like, listen, he's like, I just kind of,

like this is just what he was built to do. And just knows it. Like when you see a script, can you just pick it up quickly and then jump into the character? Or is it take a lot of practice? I think there is a certain amount of, I think it's about, I think everybody has this interesting depth to them.

It's a matter of accessing it. And if you could access that on camera, I think anybody can do it. Learning the lines isn't the hard part. It's actually living. living freely and openly as if you're just doing it like you would at home. And that's the hardest part is just letting all that go and just just. And if you can do that, I think anybody can do it.

But it's a hard thing. That's the hardest part for me is just to sort of live openly and freely in whatever scene it is that you're doing without it feeling like you're acting. It seems like a constant practice that you have to tap into. It's therapeutic for me. It's very cathartic. I love it. I love that I get to go play these characters that are, you know, who, you know, if I tried

some of this stuff in real life, it'd be in jail. But you get to, you get to, like, live out these crazy little experiences that, that are scripted for movie or TV. And every job is different. Every scene is different. Every day is different on a set. And I think that's what I love about it. I think it would be hard for a lot of people is getting out of yourself.

in like letting the guard down. Exactly. Right? Like I think in being like, oh, just be that. I think that's really difficult because people have a guard up naturally all the time, especially these days and being able to like let go of that and be something completely different. I think that that would be the hardest thing. Yeah.

I think that that goes back to what I said about just like trusting that it's okay. And for me it was just like letting myself just look stupid in front of the, don't care what anybody thinks. And when I let go of that, you know, broke through, let that, let that, you know, let that, that guard down or that wall is when I really started to feel, and that's where I feel like it's cathartic, because then you can just have fun. You're just playing make-belief, you know?

So as a kid from North Dakota, when you start to break, and that kind of attention gets put on you, and especially like at a time when, if you had that kind of attention, like when you were coming up, it was like a spiket. It was turned on and was like right away. You were in the heart throb. Yeah. I was.

Yes. Still are. Yes. I am in full hair and makeup. Good. We demand it. What is that like for you coming from your background and then all of a sudden being exposed to that and having that kind of profile? Oh, man.

I'll never forget my first job. Well, my second job, because my first job was like the picture of Dorian Gray. But the second one was all my children in New York. That has some serious fan base too. Oh, man. It was like a big deal. My mom was a huge young and the recess fan. You had a line of girls out the door.

be honest. Hey, it was, it was, it was, it was a whole new thing for me. Yeah, it's a whole new world. But it was, it was also terrifying. My first day, my first day was with, so my character was sort of a grifter, Euro trash. My mom and I would would con these people out of money and that's what, that's what we did. So I grew up sort of in that, that was my character, leather pants, turtleneck mohair sweater and a big long leather duster. And my hair was still sort of, orangish blonde from the picture of Dorian Gray. We tried to dye it back, but it was like this weird orange. So it was perfect Euro trash.

And my first scene, I was terrified because all I could think about was, oh my God, I'm going to be on TV. Everyone back home is going to be watching me. Oh my God. And just getting my breathing under control was enough. And my, my scene was with Elizabeth Banks, very talented director and actress. Very sweet. We still laugh every time we see each other.

She was playing a waitress. also her first job. And I was this year old trash Leo DuPrey wandering into this restaurant. And I was sort of trying to get a free lunch offer. And I said, good morning, Rosalie. Breakfast was so good that I thought I'd come back for lunch. And you have no idea how hard it was for me to remember that line. That one line was like, good morning, Rosalie. Lunch was so good. I thought I'd come back for break. No, breakfast was so good. I thought I'd come back for lunch. No, yeah. Okay. here we go. And I was just like terrified that I was going to be on TV. So I couldn't tell you what line I said yesterday on whatever thing, but that line sticks in my head so hard because it was so

terrified to say it because I knew I was going to be on TV. And so, you know, that was kind of the beginning. So what happens after that comes out, all my children? Yeah, I mean, like, but I guess what what I'm asking is one day you're a normal guy working warehouse from North Dakota the next day, like you're very well known. What does that do? I mean, you know, for a lot of people we talk to and for us, and I think new age, it's a little bit more of like a slower, gradual thing that you use into.

But I think for your generation and for people that broke out like you, it feels like it's almost like, maybe it doesn't feel this way to you, but it feels to us like instantaneous, massive attention. You know, if I'm in my own head, it was instantaneous and it was this massive thing. But in real life, it was kind of a slow burn for me too. I was on all my children for three years. And I guess I had a bit of a bump when I went when I left that after three years and went to do when a date with Ted Hamilton and Las Vegas.

And I had like, but it was never like a rocket to start them for me. You know, so it's always kind of been gradual. And I think those three years and all my children are a great boot camp, a great way to sort of understand media on a smaller scale and understand how to hit my light, how to learn lines, how to do all these things. that it wasn't like this giant, I wasn't this kid who was, you know, suddenly here, now I'm on Transformers. You know, it was like, so I got to sort of make mistakes along the way that weren't too damaging. You know, for me as a kid, like you said, from North Dakota, I was like, oh my God, I'm, how do I not screw this up? Imagine it's a, it's a big shift. Yeah, it was a huge shift. And it was, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,

Do I have regrets? Sure, but, you know, it was, I'm, I'm, it's the way I was able to make it, you know, and it took me a while, but I don't know. How do you manage all the attention from women that you had? You had a lot of attention from women. It's, it can be a real pitfall. I know. That's why I want to hear both sides of it. We had John Stamos on. I asked him the same question. You, you, you, John Stamos was before you, obviously. Yeah, yeah. And then I feel like you were like kind of like that adjacent to John Stamos. Was I? Yes. Like how do you manage?

I know there's pitfalls of it. What are the pros and what are the cons? Well, you know, it's it can be a seductive and intoxicating thing to get that kind of attention. But thankfully I had, and I still have a very solid group of friends who keep my ass in check. I stayed very close to my roots back in North Dakota. I'm not going to say I didn't fall into that trap a few times. But, you know, it can be the end of you in this business. If you don't have like a North Star or like a moral compass in some ways.

And I did. And, you know, I was not perfect by any means. But it can be the death of your career. It really can. If you start to believe all that. Because the truth is, none of this is. None of this is real. Right.

It's just fucking fame. Who cares? Because it can, it can, and again, this is why I'm thankful that it didn't happen so quickly because I learned to have a real appreciation for it. I had a lot of work, like normal life. I didn't start until I was 27. It can be something that, that can take you out if you don't. And that's not just, I'm not talking about just attention from girls.

There's all kinds of other trappings that can take you out. Well, what's interesting, well, there's a lot of. things interesting, but I think one thing that we wanted to talk to you about is there's a little bit of a similar path where, you know, I would say we're in an entertainment hub right now, which is obviously LA and we're having this conversation there. And you were very much at the center of media and entertainment, but you chose to kind of move back to North Dakota and kind of give back to your roots. And I wonder if that was a decision that you always knew you were going to make or if it was something that you got drawn to the further you got. No, I think that I, you know, when I left

North Dakota, I couldn't wait to leave. I was like so ready to go because I'd gone, I'd gone, you know, all the way through high school and then went to college in the same town that I grew up in. So I couldn't wait to leave. It was like, I'm ready. I was ready. I think they were ready too. Just, I was just ready. It's just been there for too long. And if you were to ask me then, no, I'm never going back. Or if I do, I'm going to be 80. But then as I got older and got to really, you know, it's almost like you have to leave to really appreciate your roots. And it was that. And I fell in love with the state. again. It's an amazing state in North Dakota. I don't know if you can. It's probably not that

dissimilar to Texas. It doesn't have, you know, the big cities and the beaches and all the things that Texas has, but the people feel like they're kind of the same. Very salt of the earth. You can trust them 100%. And I think that that's really what I grew to love. And, you know, and not a knock on LA, but, you know, it's, and I, there's a lot of great things about Los Angeles. But for me, it was like, And then I met a girl from there. My wife, Audra, who really loves her. She's very much a family girl, very much loves to be home. She has a cabin in Minnesota, not far from where we're at.

So it was kind of perfect. And so we both have this, you know, she helped me fall back in love with it. And now we're residents of the state again. And I love it there. It's funny. When we first moved to Texas, I would, we were taking a walk in our neighborhood. And people were like, good morning. Hello.

Like, what do you want, buddy? Yeah. Like, I was like, I like, my guard. My guard is up from being out here. And I was like, why is this person? And then now I'm like, I'm the guy in the neighborhood of their coffee. Like, hey. Like, but it's, I think, again, like, there's a lot of great things about big cities.

But it's, it's very much like people are on the move here. They're going. It's like you're trying to get something done. And I feel like people are living in those places. Yeah. That's what it feels like. It feels more in the moment for sure. And I'm guilty of that too here.

I am, when I'm here, I am working. Yeah. You know, I am chasing that carrot. I get it. I say Texas, I'm married to Texas, but New York and L.A. is my mistress. I suck it. I fuck it. I fuck it. And then I get the fuck out. So I totally get what you're saying. Like you just need to like get it out. Get everything you can get out of the city. And then like it's you can leave. No. And I was at breakfast before this and some guys that live out here still. I think they're they're curious about places like Texas, like North Dakota. And they're asking me about it. And I said, you know, I like to live there. and raise a family in those places and like, there's less distraction. But it's,

it might at times feel slow if we didn't kind of go to the bigger cities. Right. But, but I, if I had to choose one or the other of where I would, you know, if I had to just choose what, it would be in those places. Yeah. Yeah. I think like, again, the cities are great, but we can let our kids go outside and run around and play.

Right. You can trust that, yeah, exactly. That's a, that's a perfect way to put it because my son, my 12-year-old son is, he's never, We never let him out to go play in the street, because I don't trust what might happen. You know, that might be my own, you know, neuroses. But in North Dakota, there's no fear of that. The kids are all on their bikes, racing up and down the street, jumping from house to house.

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I think too, it seems to some people that we've interviewed that are celebrities, and I wonder what you think about this. When you get to a place in acting or celebrity where you feel like you've reached a really high peak, I think sometimes you look around and there still feels like there's something missing. And I noticed that those are the people like a Demi Moore and a Bruce Willis who move out of Hollywood to sort of like figure out what that is. I kind of felt that when I was living in L.A. It's like I was, we were podcasting, we were doing all the things. And then you kind of look around and you sort of, you want more than just that mountain.

Does that make sense? I think that. Yeah, you crave it. Because it's, it's, it is a hard thing to, to, it's, it's almost like. like that siren out in the ocean that you know, you'd hear it calling, but you don't know it until you actually see it and feel it. And then, and then, but then it's the same thing here. It's like, it's like your mistress that you want to suck and fuck. You need to go get that, you need to go get that too. It's like, it.

Don't pull that clip. That'll be the opening of the trailer we make for the show with you. But, you know, it's nice to have the balance. I love coming back to L.A. I love the restaurants. I love the weather. You know, I have a lot of friends here. There's, there's, I'm not going to dog on LA, but yesterday is a perfect example. I was here until I picked my, I was driving my boy to have basketball and soccer. And I was like, and the weather was perfect. It was great yesterday.

And we just got back from Fargo, which is not perfect right now. But I also sat in an hour and a half of traffic to get from one or the other. I'm like, oh my, this is why. It's such a tradeoff. Yeah. When we first moved to Austin, everyone's like, listen, traffic here is pretty bad. You could get stuck for like 20 minutes sometimes. I was like 20 minutes.

How did you meet your wife, Audra? We had a, I had a barbecue at my house. It was some of my friends from Hollywood. It was some of my old friends from back home. There were kids. It was just like a good old fashioned barbecue. And she and I had been in contact because I knew that she was from North Dakota. She'd done, she'd done really, really well in some, was a Miss USA.

And I had no, it wasn't, I wasn't even. inviting her because I wanted to date her because she was too young for me, to be honest. I wasn't looking for a girl like, no, no, I'm not going to be that dude. So I invite her and she comes to the door. I'm like, holy shit. She's so beautiful and tall. And I was still like, no, no, no. And I was entertaining people.

We hardly even talked at the barbecue where she was like, this dude has no interest in me. She left and, you know, I was with her friend at the thing. It's like, whatever. And, but I remember the little bit of interaction I did have, we talked and we did whatever, but I was like entertaining as a barbecue. I was taking care of everybody. And I remember her taking care of these kids that were at the party, like making sure that they had enough goldfish or whatever was.

She was given them. And I was like, huh, that's like, that reminds me of home in the kind of girl that I want to really be with. You know, and I'd gone through a couple relationships with girls here in L.A. And it just wasn't the same. There's something really sort of wholesome about it. And I think that that's when I was like, hmm, maybe she's not too young. They're like, let me run the math again. Well, you know, I guess I am that dude.

I don't know. Yeah, but now you guys are married. You're a two-year-old, right? Yeah, we have a two-year-old. And how long have you been married for? Three years. We've been together for like seven. Seven years.

What is the difference between being, because you were married to Fergie before, which is a famous public marriage, to being married how you are now, which seems very grounded and wholesome. What is the major differences? And by the way, Fergie is also very wholesome, believe it or not. She's very much, you know, especially since she sort of stepped away from it all. She's a great mom, very kind, very non-confrontational, thank God. So we have, you know, we have a good relationship.

She and Audra have a great relationship. We were just very different. You know, Frig and I just, you know, we just have different views. The world and that's okay, you know. But I have no regrets about that. We have a beautiful son. But they're just very different in a lot of ways. But also, also both very, really, really great women.

They really are. What a nice way to talk about an ex. That's how you should talk about me in the future. When I'm on my third wedding, what do they say first you marry for, what do they say? First you marry for love, then you marry for money, then you marry for companionship. Looks like you got all three here. Yeah. Listen, she had me at Sucket and fuck it.

So I was like, there we go. There we go. That's what I knew. It was a similar story. She wasn't playing with the children. She said that to me. And I said, you know what? That reminds me of home.

Yes. That's dark. That's dark. That's dark. I mean, what does your day-to-day look like when you are not working and you are being a dad in North Dakota? I mean, like anybody, really. Is it like, are you like out on the land? What is?

So, okay, so I've got, we've got a smaller place in Fargo. We're going to build there eventually. So cool. But we have a property in Minnesota, which is about an hour and a half from Fargo. We spend a lot of time at our cabin in the woods on the, I've had this for like 17 years now. And, you know, over the last 10, I've really, I've really put a lot of work into developing it. And so I've got started with one little cabin that was just a little shitbox up on the hill with no electricity, no water.

It was an old hunting cabin infested with mice. The whole, it was, it was a, it was a outhouse for a long time. Oh, there's an outhouse. It was a whole thing. And then, and, and, and, and then I bought the property next to that for $189,000, 26 acres, beautiful. little cabin on the water. It's amazing. And it's like my, it's my happy place, man. I just love it there so much. And so I had the two little cabins and I've since put electricity and water in both of them. And now there are these really cute little guest cabins. But we needed something big, you know,

something to hold my tractor and my four wheelers and just that you just get used to accumulate things over the years. And so we built, I was just going to build a place that had a huge garage, but then I decided to make it a double thing to make a big, we just turned into a big cabin. So now I got that in the two little cabins and it's like my own little compound out in the woods. It's amazing. That's rad. Built a beach out there. It's just, yeah.

And you know what it is? It's great because to answer your question, Lauren, is that I think for me a normal day out there is just, I just work all day, just fixing things, taking care of kids. Okay, we need something needs to be fixed over here. Okay, I got to run up and grab fire, whatever it is, I'm just going. So the kids, it's a great. way for them to see me and teach them things outside of the amenities that we're used to because it's really just about being in the moment, figuring out what we got to do because we're 40 miles from anything.

There's not a store within 40 miles. We are out there. And so there's a lot. I've had to learn how to fix things and take care of things. I was going to ask how did you learn? Does your dad? Just had to. Just had to.

You know, thankfully my father-in-law is very handy. My dad is pretty handy. But I wasn't. You know, I grew up in the city in North, in my at North Dakota, playing hoops and in football and all that stuff. And I never really did much. But now I've become pretty adept at fixing the basic things. You know what they say the hottest thing is.

And I think we should all make this a thing in 2006. They say the hottest thing for a guy to do to boost their testosterone is to chop wood. Have you heard this? Yeah, or go to Catlin and get a shot and just put it in your butt. Get a shot from Gatlin and then go chop wood. And that's the tanny dropper. You're going to be, you're going to be, though there is a lot of, there is a lot of wood chopping out there.

There really is. I want to talk about what you're doing with Gatlin and just longevity in particular. When did you get so interested in this space? I've always had a real curiosity about it. You know, just because maybe out of vanity in the beginning, just because I wanted to stay as youthful and athletic and virile as I I could for as long as I could. But then it became more about being there, you know, it's about

being there for my wife, for my kids who are much, who are very young. And to, but I kept this thing a secret for so long because I didn't want to tell people that I was taking testosterone or peptides and these things because it was kind of my dirty little secret that I had some shame around. And then I was like, and so my friend Fabian came to me and says, hey, we have this company that we're starting. And they'd been doing a lot of blocking into all the. all the FDA compliance. It's just a ton of stuff to build a company like this. And so at first I was like, no way.

I'm not going to be the face of that. But then I thought, why not? Because it's only massively improved my life. It's kept me feeling great as I've gotten older as into my mid-40s, 50, and I'm 53. I feel better than I did in my 20s and 30s. I was like, why don't I shine a light on this thing? Why don't I teach people or show guys that.

It's okay to, first of all, talk about it, get your levels tested. And that was kind of the beginning of it. And that's what, and I had in, and now I just have this full on curiosity about all the latest and greatest stuff that's coming out. How do we build this company and help as many people as we can? Yeah, there's like a, I think for a lot of guys, there's a taboo around like, oh, I might need these things because my natural function is, but the fact of the matter is like, it's going to change.

What is it? What does it say? Is like after 30 or 35, it starts to just drop out of, like there's naturally. Younger and younger weirdly. I'm not sure what the reason for that is. Maybe it's because we have less. I mean, my knee jerk is that, you know,

we have everything at our fingertips. We don't have to go chop wood like we did before, which improves our, no one's killing tigers. We don't have, we don't have the fear of, you know, bears coming to eat. You know,

we've, it's gotten pretty comfortable. And then you add in like the apps and the swipe lefts or rights or whatever that is. Too much soy milk. You know, there's a lot of factors, I think, maybe. Go milk a cow. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I think that, you know, there might be a lot of, I don't know what the reason is,

but I feel like there are ways to combat that now. And why not? I had a buddy of mine who's my age, like a young, not young, but youngish guy, like, not, under 40 still. And he, his levels, like, really dropped. And we talk a lot about these things on the show. And he was using all these, like, crazy cleaning supplies in his house consistently. He had like a bachelor pad.

So it was like a lot in there. And he went and switched everything, got rid of like all the paribans, all those, like switched them out for more natural things. He switched to glass water bottles. He was drinking. And just a lot of those practices. Microplastics and all that stuff. Yeah. But he was just like in his, his whole environment was with all of these like fragrances and toxins. And he switched all that and that did change.

And then I think he also like went after that went back to the specialist. But I think that like just our modern environment and a lot of things we're introduced in ourselves are not. doing things to further and protect our levels, right? I think for women too. What is the Josh stack from Gatlin? Like, what is your stack of peptides that you like? So I do, I do, NAD. Okay.

Do you do the IV or the shot? I do the, I do the, the, I inject it with an insulin needle. Okay. I'm being, I'm telling you guys everything. Yeah, we love it. We're, we're, we're gonna get to know each other. This is the full skinny content.

So, NAD. I do Ipomorlin and Tessamorlin. compound, which is like a synthetic HGH, it promotes your own production of human growth hormone. I do this thing called the Wolverines, the Wolverine stack, and I'll tell you exactly what's in it. I can never remember because there's like four things. I've heard about this. Wolverine Stratis.

Dude, it's so good because, you know, I've always been into exercise and fitness and stuff in your joints, especially when you get to be 50. And so athletes, you'll see these athletes that are getting Achilles or knees and they're back in like half the time that they were 10 years ago. It's because of a lot of it is because of this particular. Can we get Michael signed up for Gatlin for his back? Michael has a bad. Oh, yeah, I messed my back. My back are pretty bad.

And I've used peptides just for everyone. I've used peptides before. I've done it for more than I did one for sleep one time. Maybe you should try the Wolverine. I can't remember what it was called, but it was one of the best ones I've done. So the Wolverine stack is BPC 157. Okay. TB 500, KPV, and GHKU.

And it's in one shot? It's in one shot you take every day. And it's in my niece, for example, has just had a knee surgery. And one of my friends Michael Chambers is about to have a surgery on his pet. This, we have an amazing group of doctors that they live for this kind of stuff. This is all they do. And so all the most cutting edge stuff is what we have in our 503B pharmacy and our wholesale API. but we have a army of,

or a group of like 15 doctors and nurse practitioners that only deal with this stuff. And so, um, this particular shot has been great because it's not only great for your joints and healing of injuries, but your skin regeneration hair. Aren't they saying this is like, you got the most beautiful head of hair.

Thank you. Can you believe this hair? It's so good. It's so good. But you know, but you know, It is good, isn't it? But I can tell as I get older. I call him Eddie Munster.

So good. So good. So down his face. But you know, like I could see, you know, I'm almost 40 now and I can tell the things that I used to be able to do. Like it's just not the same. Like you know, because I've, I've trained the whole life and lifted. But I, you know, like you could just, you could start to feel like if you, so I'm thinking about this stuff a lot because I want to be ahead of it. And I want to like, I want to be able to pick up my kids and run around and do.

Are those the three ones that you do? Do you do anything else? And then I do. And then I do. testosterone replacement therapy, but I do it in Kaiser Xtrex, which is the pill form, which bypasses the liver. You take it twice a day and it keeps your levels. It doesn't, and then dip through the week and come back out. You always kind of stay up here. Do you like that better than the pellet? I'm trying to convince my dad. So the, so the pellet, that's a, that's another thing. I don't know

if you guys saw Oprah just talked about getting her levels checked and found out she was low on testosterone and started taking the pellet. And boom, she's back. She felt like she's finally, she's feeling better that she has in years. I'm telling you, man, this stuff works. But the pellet, I don't know enough to know, but I do know that there are other, it's such a slow release, right? Over time. Okay. I've heard people having. I've never done it, but I want my dad to get on testosterone. And I want to know what. I would suggest not from, I mean, for the women, I think, because it's such a lower dose, but I'm not, listen, anybody out there listening, I'm not a doctor. Don't listen to me, talk to your doctor. But my opinion is,

that for men, it's better. If you, if you don't like the shot, you and this Kaiser Trix really works. You know, even the shots are great, but it just, it depends on whether you're okay with, like, spiking during the week and then coming back down slowly during the week, whereas the Kaiser's Tricks are always kind of. Are there any downfalls of all the things that you just mentioned that you've seen or have you seen nothing? I have not.

I mean, some people talk about, you know, their hair thin, but I don't know if that's true, if that's just a wife's tale. Your natural production of sperm. It's up or down? Down. But you can, there's things you can take to counter that too, which are all perfectly healthy. I've had enough sperm. Yeah.

Spirmed out. Especially when she goes to New York or L.A. up early. Yeah. If I go to New York. No, but, you know, I'd be curious to know, like, the version of you before you started these therapies. Like, what, like, what was the instant changes you noticed? Well, mostly energy. Okay. Mojo.

Okay. Feeling like I still got my fast. I feel like I still got my fastball. I really do. But also it's not just this stuff. It's also, you know, we don't want to just push this stuff. We also want to push like, you know, if you're going to take a GLP one, you also need to make sure that you're exercising, lifting weights, staying strong, not just getting skinny.

So there's a, we want people to be like fully healthy because it's, yes, we want them to look great, but they also, we also want them to feel great because if you're feeling great, you're suddenly more engaged as a husband, as a father, as a brother, as a friend. You're better at work. Yeah. You know, it's just like, it's just all this stuff is interconnected. Yeah. Whenever we talk about it on the show, because people will sometimes say like, oh, you're taking

this thing, you're on this thing. I'm like, no, not yet, but I promise I will be at some point and I need to figure out like when that starting point is. Because I think, I also think a lot of young guys that get into, you know, like, sometimes in your 20s, like maybe that's not the right time. But as I'm starting to get more middle age, I'm like, okay, I, it's, I, It's coming on. You know, we're finding that a lot of the,

young men and women are starting this stuff earlier, maybe not full on, but just as like a precautionary, a preventative because they don't want, they're, you know, this generation is much more conscious of aging and, you know, overall wellness. All the time. Exactly. I think that's probably it.

When someone. They drink less, they don't drink. Yeah, there's less drinking. Much less drinking. They're like big pussies. Yeah. I just kidding as a joke or one. When someone signs up for Gatlin, one does it have to be a boy or a guy?

No. Well, no, because we have NAD. We have GOP ones. This is for, you know, we've marketed this mostly four men in the beginning, but we're, we're moving into, and we should talk about this. Maybe you guys would be great partners in this. But we definitely want to move into the female space too because it's just as, it's just as important for women as it as men.

Didn't they open or just change some legislation and open up some things around hormone therapy for women or wasn't I'm again I'm reading something like or don't know or replacement there something was going on. So if someone wants to to come get a wolverine peptide stack, do they come to you guys get their blood done and everything? It's all included. So what's the process? So the process is you come to you go to the site. It's very easy. You just you click. There's a few questions you have to answer.

depending on what you're looking for if you're looking for something more at medical grade like a TRT like a testosterone replacement we we we will we can send you our blood test kit you send it you do your thing send it back and then we we set you up with one of our doctors and it's all telemedicine it's all quick glp1s will have you talk to one of our doctors if you want the peptides most of this the i think the most important thing is you have to get your blood test to get your levels checked first so that we know where you're at because from there we're we can really, we can really sort of optimize, you know, where you want to be and where you are now and where you want to go. So that's the really the beginning is, is get your levels tested,

find out where you're at. Our doctors will then help you figure out what's the best option. It's very, very simple. What are the other things that you do on a day-to-day basis that are wellnessy? Like are you I know you're it seems like you're outside a lot which is so good for your nervous system. Yeah. Try to be outside a lot, especially when I'm back at the cabin. I'm not outside all day. But in Southern California, it's not a bad place to be outside. Right.

So I do a green smoothie thing every day. That's one of the things I do. You got to tell us what's in the Josh smoothie. It's kale, spinach, apple, banana pear and water. You just blend it up in one of the. All your nutrients. Yeah. Okay.

I learned this years ago. from Kim Snyder. She's a nutritionist. I don't know if you guys know her. She's doing the show. Oh, yeah, she's great. It's actually her recipe. She started this because she was helping a couple of guys in a different movie.

We were in Chicago and she made them from me. It's like, oh, my God, what is this? And for literally the last 10 years I've been doing that. Not every day, but mostly. We got a cold plunge at the house. Oh, nice. I try to do that a lot. You know, but I don't, I'm not like a super health, not everything in moderation, including moderation.

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And now he's like pushing sleds and doing kettlebells and doing all the thing and running around and working and driving. But there was like a, there was a window of time that I saw with him. Like if you don't catch that stuff quick and stay on it, like it can go downhill quick. Yeah. And that's, that's the truth. My dad the same way. You know, he didn't do enough and he can see it for sure.

I think yoga's also a really good. I'm just getting into stretching. I can tell now, like I said, like I'm locked down. Your knees and your back and everything, because if I'm not doing that, I suddenly get back in knee problems. So I have to do that in order to, you know. I go on Instagram and get sold on all the stretching tools. I got a hole in my office.

It's just like all the, like open my SOAS. I got the thing. You got the other thing. You put your leg in. It just sort of take up space in the house, actually. Yeah. How do you think I'm so curious to know, especially because of your living situation? How do you think about the phone and social media and

all of this for children because it seems like you've done a really good job of getting your kids outside. Well, I'm not, I can do better. Thankfully, my wife and, and my ex-wife are very conscious of it. He doesn't have a phone yet. He wants, desperately wants one. He loves his iPad. You know, that YouTube, YouTube is, these kids will just sit. It's like a vortex. She got to be very conscious of, of at least monitor. You don't want to take, I don't think you want to take it away. completely because then just go on it that much more. It's like you repress something too much. It manifests in some way later. So like I said, everything in moderation, including moderation, let them have it, but you really got to monitor it because it is, it's, it will, it really

affects them emotionally in the way that, and just the way they, they think and see the world. Like they, that's why it's important to get them off that and find other stuff for them to do. Before you go, if our audience is listening and they are curious about, peptides what are the signs where you would point someone to peptides like low energy what are the things well it just depends on what you're looking for you know if you want the NAD is great because it's it's great for longevity but it's also great for your skin and you really it really improves your skin and your hair and your cell regeneration if you're looking to heal or you know you know for me for me

healing is that wolverine stack the BPC 157 H chip were they were they trying to in the previous I mean get rid of the BPC 157? Did that go away? I don't remember for sure. But it's it's but now it's like you can start taking it again. Yes. It's in the stars. As far as I know it's I'm gonna get some of that again because I I love that stuff. Yeah and also the the the epimoral and tessimorland for muscle. You know for me I because like your dad is you get older it's harder to keep that muscle on. So that and the testosterone is what really helps me stay strong. Keep the muscle on. So if someone feels tired or they want to

lose weight there's all different kinds of peptide. for different things. Yeah, and we got the doctors to help them, point them in the right direction. To be honest with you, it sounds like it's what Gatlin's done has made it a really seamless process for people to just get on the right stack of peptides

without all, like confusion. Yeah, and I think that's really what we want to do is we want this to feel like a fully white glove concierge's experience where you're not just pushing buttons and something comes and you're kind of just taking things. In the dark. Yeah, so you know, it's about, it's about,

we really care about the overall wellness. What's going on with Transformers? Coming back? I don't know. You know, I posted a picture the other day and I have somebody help me with my, with my social media because I'm terrible at it. And I posted some, my friend Etchie, former Navy SEAL, now uh, Santa Monica Fire Department, sent me a photo of us back in the day just me, Megan, uh, Shia, John Voight, and

John Totoro. And I posted it and it was like one of my biggest posts. going nuts. People are like speculating. Is it going to happen again? Lord, you know what we're talking about Transformers? Are you excited? I know that Josh was in Transformers, but I have not, Transformers. Don't worry. We'll go back and watch all of the movies together. We got outside of it. But do you have boys or girls? I have two boys and a girl. I'm going to have to watch it. Yeah, they're going to watch it probably. But little boys love that stuff. Is your kids obsessed that you did that? No, my kid doesn't care. He wants me, he's more interested in basketball and soccer players. He doesn't, I try to generally watch this.

I'm slowly introducing my three and a half year old son. I got him going into the Ninja Turtles. I'm going to get him into the Transformers. Is there going to be another transformers? I don't know. I haven't heard. I just posted the photo. Would you be excited about it if the band got back together?

Of course. I love working with Michael Bay and that whole team. It was just, it was so much fun. I mean, talk about a massive production. I mean, I remember just sitting there going, holy crap. That was by far the biggest thing I'd ever been on. How many of them are there now, six? but like the original was three.

We did five. It was five. Geez. Yeah. I did all of them except the fourth one. And now they've done other versions of it. I don't really. Yeah.

And I got confused because it's gone, it's gone tangents. There's like prequel movies. Yeah. Don't worry, Lauren. You're a big transformer fan. I'll go through. Yeah.

I mean, kids grow up, boys, transformers, they used up the toys. It was crazy. Once technology got to a point where you could actually like do it the way you guys did it without looking weird, it was cool. You know,

can I tell a story? really quick about that. Yes, please. When I was actually meeting at Michael Bay's, uh, was it Bay Films or Platinum Dunes or something with Brad Fuller and Andrew Form or his, or his producers. And they were having me over for a meeting to talk about this movie called The Hitcher. This is back in like 2005 or six or earlier, four maybe. And Michael pops his head in.

He says, Hey, Michael Bay. I was like, I know who you are. And he goes. Nice to meet you on Michael. You should come over and check out what we're doing over here. I was like, what is? He goes, we're doing the remake of Transformers. I was like, ooh, that sounds like a terrible idea.

I didn't say that to him, but I was thinking. I was like, that's like the cheesy cartoon from the 80s, which is cool again. But back when I told me about that, I was like, that's going to be a terrible idea. So I go over there after the meeting and he shows me the artwork and how they'd reimagine this whole thing. And I was like, okay, now I get it. And, you know, if you look at like the cartoon from the 80s, which is pretty cool. But then what they did with it was just a testament to the huge imagination that some of these, some of these creatives have in this town. Yeah, they, I, you'll see.

It's, it's, it is, but you might like the first one. Yeah. I think you'll like it. It's not about the robots as much as it is about a boy. In his first love in his first car. And it's a pretty iconic cast if you think about it. It's you, it's Shailabuff, it was like, and it was like, and it was, A lot of like.

Is Megan Fox and Shila the love? Yeah. They're in love. Well, he's like the kid who would never get her. Okay. And then he, yeah. But he gets her.

Yeah. And it's really about a boy in his car, too. It's really, it's, it's, it's, it's. I will watch it with my boys. Yes. You said he's six the oldest? No, that's three and a half. Oh, three and a half.

Yeah. Yeah. Give it, give it a couple years. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's, it's,

um, that's my biggest frustration as a father of a young, I'm like, I gotta show you a lot of shit, buddy. There's a lot of things I got, I'm like, we're gonna turn on heat tonight, but that's me. I was like, geez, I walk in there watching like, what are you guys watching the other day? No, they were getting a kid. Showing him, Gullum from the rings. Do you guys like the shining?

Yeah, exactly. I'm like, a big Jack Nicholson fan. What are you showing him the other day? My daughter and they were watching the Lord of the Rings, but I have to be careful what I show them because like, that's kind of scary to some of that age. Yeah. But they like, die laughing about Smeagle and Golan. Oh. Really?

Because they're like, they don't get that he's like a schizophrenic bipolar. Yeah. Like gone crazy. But they just see him in like two persons. They're like, oh my God. He doesn't like the elf bread. I'm like, oh, he's got a lot of problems. He's a full junkie.

You gave us a code, which is so nice. You can go to gatlin.com and use code TSC15 and you guys get 15% off your first purchase. I'm going to sign my dad up to get these testosterone pills. Daddy, if you're listening. I'm calling in for it. We're not going to do the cream. You're not responsible enough for the cream. I need that Wolverine stack.

And where can everyone find you and say hello and follow what you're doing? Well, I'm on Instagram at Josh DeMell. I'm on Twitter. Or not Twitter. X, Facebook. I don't even know the handles for those. I should probably know that. We'll link them out.

I did miss something. I didn't see this line. You were an extra in Christina Aguilera as a genie in a bottle. I was. I really was. That's actually amazing. Yeah, I auditioned for the thing. the lead, but I ended up getting, I was like one of the leads friends. It was like this

group of guys who crashed her slumber party. And I was one of the guys who, you know, crashed the slumber part. But I got to meet Christina. I remember I was odd days. It was one of my early days in Los Angeles auditioning and I went to audition for the Christina. Just before she was Christina. She was like this new hot young thing and I had no idea and there we go. That was one of my first jobs actually in Los Angeles. You might have to post a TBT to that moment. I should, but you know what the problem is? You can barely see me. It's like, there I was.

And that's it. You can say it. And Ransom Canyon season two. Yeah, we just finished two days ago. People love that show. It's been good. You know, it's one of those shows that's just, it's like comfort food. It's easy to watch.

It's, it's beautiful, great actors, really well written. April Blair does a great job, you know, running that show. It's it's been a really fun job, I got to say. And it looks like you get to spend some time in some great places too, filming it. You're busy. Yep. Chopping wood, Ransom Canyon, Gatlin. You're busy. Josh, it was so nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you guys. Thank you for coming on the show. Yeah, thank you for having me. Come back anytime. All right.