The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Josh Peck - Gets Real About Childhood Fame, Addiction, Weight Loss & How To Transform Your Life

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

#756: Join us as we sit down with Josh Peck, an actor, writer, and Co-Host of the Good Guys podcast. Having grown up in the spotlight at a young age, Josh shares candid insights into his life as a child actor in the entertainment industry. In this episode, he discusses his inspiring weight loss journey, the decision to cut out alcohol, and the challenges of navigating fame from a young age. Discover how Josh continues to make an impact in the entertainment world & the valuable lessons he’s learned throughout his journey! To connect with Josh Peck click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. Visit istandwithmypack.org to support I Stand With My Pack’s (ISWMP) mission by donating or adopting. Every contribution helps! This episode is sponsored by The Farmer’s Dog Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at TheFarmersDog.com/SKINNY. Plus, you get FREE shipping!  This episode is sponsored by Clarins Go to Clarins.com/SKINNY and get Double Serum for 10% off, a free 8-piece welcome gift, plus free shipping on your first order. This episode is sponsored by Pique Head over to piquelife.com/skinny to get up to 15% off and a free cup and frother + free shipping FOR LIFE  when you start on any of my Piqu This episode is sponsored by Philadelphia Cream Cheese Visit creamcheese.com This episode is sponsored by Land Rover Evoque Explore the Range Rover Evoque at LandRoverUSA.com. Produced by Dear Media

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And just like angry young men. You know what I mean? That angst. And I started walking the city, which was my favorite thing to do. And I would like listen to music. And I just felt like it was possible. Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. Today we have Josh Peck on the show. I'm sure many of you are familiar with Josh Peck. Josh is an actor, writer, and the co-host of the Good Guys podcast, which happens to be housed with Dear Media. I'm

surprised it took us this long to sit down. I personally spend a lot of time laughing at Ben and Josh's clips and their show. It's incredible. If you haven't listened to it yet, check it out. It's on Dear Media. It's called The Good Guys. We covered a lot of ground with him. Some of the topics include growing up at a young age in the spotlight. Josh gives us the inside scoop of what it was like to grow up in the spotlight as a child actor in the entertainment industry. We also talk about his weight loss journey, addiction, cutting out alcohol. We could have talked to Josh for forever. He's really easy to talk to. He's fun. He makes us laugh. And he's just a great guy. With that, Josh Peck, welcome to Skinny Confidential, him and her show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. I make a mean bowl of beef.

So every day when I was, we were talking about this off air, losing 60 pounds, how I did it is I would make a huge bowl of meat. And I just feel like my bowl of meat could win on your competition. What are we talking? Taco seasonings? Are we cooking it in tallow? Ghee? So I mix it up. So lately, my latest has been a big bowl of like venison and liver and organs. And then I'll put... We're going deer meat?

This is... We're going deer meat. God. This is a weight loss hack. Okay. And then I put raw cheddar cheese on top with raw farmer's market honey. There's nothing better. And if you want... It's a hot sauce? No, no, no. That's nothing better. And if you want... Some hot sauce? No, no, no. That's a different bowl. If you want to do an In-N-Out bowl, you use the special sauce from Primal Kitchen. You chop up some lettuce, tomato, raw onion, perhaps.

You could also do a taco bowl of meat. Welcome to the show, Josh. This is it. I'm excited because I'm on the periphery of that stuff i can hear the raw dairy we're gonna get along no but you're open to it because listen i you know we just had whitney cummings in here and i was grilling her because she's also in this conover world hello dr craig conover love you dr craig conover yeah you're shout out whenever i find anyone who's in the dr craig conover one i'm like oh you're open like you're yeah because he um he will lead you down some paths i'm i'm down to clown i'm ready to optimize let's do it let's you're in the raw club yeah no

i'm not in the raw club do you do raw milk yeah so scared why pasteurizing good raw milk doesn't hurt your stomach but doesn't it maybe it has like diphtheria. What does it carry? Botulism? I have been drinking it, my entire family, for the last two years. And I will never go back. It is so good. You got to get it from like a reputable farmer. You want to know where you're getting it from. But Josh, I will say like, you know, the Wall Street Journal did this whole piece. It was kind of, you know, it was like a, look what these crazy people are doing.

Lauren was featured in the article. You were? I was like, look, we made the Wall Street. Cause it was like the thing, you know, of all the things that have happened in our lives. And I was like, you know, what's my dad going to be impressed? The Wall Street Journal. I'm like, we ever make the Wall Street? Hey dad, look, we made it. You know, what's good? Raw milk, ice cream, raw milk in your coffee, little protein, little carb, little sugar before a workout. Great weight loss hack.

Have you heard about the egg yolk in coffee before? I'm into it. Tell me about it. It's just egg yolk, a little bit of sugar, maple syrup, and your coffee. Sounds actually pretty good. I mean, it just makes it creamy. They make cocktails with eggs. I'm going to make this on my stories and tag you. Please do.

That sounds amazing. I bet it's good. I tried it. Got a little bit of the egg white in it. Kind of gross. But next time, I think you just have to be very careful to just do yolk. Okay, so it's only yolk. It's not the white. But if you have like a gin sour or whiskey sour, they'll shake egg whites into it and you probably not notice that. It just makes it that kind of like cloud texture.

But Josh, what if you added raw milk to the egg? I'm open to the raw milk. It just scares me. And I'm a city boy. I'm open to the raw milk. It just scares me. I'm a city boy. I'm in LA. Otherwise, I'm going to have to sell my firstborn to Air One to buy one pitcher of raw milk for, what, $40? It's probably very expensive.

It's one of those things that, sorry, Michael, I just don't look at the price. Some girls buy handbags, shoes. I like my raw milk. I have a feeling now when Lauren gets excited about taking people down the rabbit hole, we're going to go down the rabbit hole. But before we go down the rabbit hole, let's go back with you a little bit. I'm sure many of our listeners are aware of you, fans of you.

But when you think back, what was your first, like what age were you when you first started getting into this whole wild world of entertainment? Well, I was nine years old doing stand-up comedy in New York. Wow. were you when you first started getting into this whole wild world of entertainment well i was uh i was nine years old doing stand-up comedy in new york wow so wait wait wait wait i know hold on it should have come with like a membership to therapy you don't just be nine years old and do stand-up comedy what is comes before that to get you to that place no dad, dad. No, I'm kidding. It's true. Is that actually true? Yeah. I mean, I had a very weird, I had a single mom. I was an only child. We were sort of like, I always used to say my friends with traditional families were like a corporation and my mom and

I were like a startup. Okay. That's cute. Yeah. I like that. And so it's no surprise to me that my trajectory has been sort of odd and weird and different than most. But I was a funny kid. My mom was like an unrealized performer. And so as soon as she saw that I had like a small affinity for it, she basically just poured jet fuel on it. And so it began. So how do you get on the comedy stage? She's like made some puppeteering moves behind the scenes.

There was a there's a newspaper for actors called backstage and it's very popular in new york and it kind of has all like the castings so if there's like a theater caller you want to be a swing dancer in in the new hamilton production like here's where the audition is show up at this time so they'd also have agents and managers so i'm reading it one day at nine years old, and I see Sid Gold at Gold Star Entertainment. I represent kid comedians. And I went and met him in Times Square.

Shout out Sid Gold. He's still very much with us. Love you, Sid. Adopt me, Sid. And he's like, if you get a comedy act together, I will put you up on stage. What's a joke you're telling at nine? Oh, man, awful, hacky, bullshit.

Not good. Give us an example. I don't remember. I blocked it out. It was all terrible, but it was... What were the themes? Was it like just... I made fun of my mom. I made fun of kids at school.

I did impressions. I did observational. What's the deal with school lunch? No, I don't know. It's just terrible, terrible, but I was sticky and it kind of was funny. And there was a novelty that I was young. And so I start performing and now I'm like getting snuck into catch rising star, stand up, New York, Gotham, all these famous stand-up clubs like at 11 o'clock at night because they don't want to lose their liquor license.

So when this starts happening, was it sort of like a tumbleweed where you just got more and more and more and more? Yeah, I went to performing arts high school. I got like representation. It was just sort of like being around it through osmosis. I kind of, you know, found a bit of success. How do you contextualize that as such a young person? Like how do you, you know, even now, you know, you start to see young people, but they're, you know, in their twenties or whatever it is, like when you're that age, how do you even begin to contextualize all of this around you and manage it? Contextualize it in the sense of,

I look back at it now as a parent and go, that's nuts. I'm thinking about if my child in four years or five years starts, that would seem insane to me. I think about it like if you were a 10-year-old and you just really wanted to work at Chili's, it would still be ridiculous, right? No, I just want to serve margs and make people happy i'm like i'm really into sampler platters like you would still be like bet johnny like when you're

16 you can get a weekend or or a afternoon job but not right now but again we had this very people always of course asked me um and i'm sure they ask you guys like are your kids going to follow in your footsteps would you want them to you know become entrepreneurs or become an actor and uh and I say I want them to be happy but I just don't see them they didn't have the same set of circumstances weighing in on where they were in life at the time that I was because if I had had a very sort of rock stable home I don't think I could have moved to California to be on a TV show how did your mom manage protecting you in the crazy wild industry like what is how does she even know what to do because now I feel like we've like seen

a bunch of shit and social media has exposed a bunch of shit how does your mom at nine years old know what to do i don't know i i remember in um early on there was sort of like i would go to these castings in new york where you would be like amongst you know 150 kids who all look like you and you're there for three or four hours just waiting to go in and spend like five minutes for your audition for some you know fruit juice ad or some toy company and I think there was always this thankfully there was always this part of her that was like you want out we're out like you want to go let's go because she's like I realize that this sucks and so I think she allowed me to sort of drive the ambition side of it and it gave me a lot of self-confidence and whatnot I think she allowed me to sort of drive the ambition side of it. And it gave me a lot of self-confidence and whatnot.

I think I was lucky in that sense. But I think I was very lucky in that way, for sure. It's interesting because every person who acted when they were a child, nothing was creepy like it was normal, says that. That their parents said, you can get out whenever you want the ones that have come on here that have had like a bad memory or a bad moment have all said that their parent was like a stage mom or a stage dad and even um jeanette mccarthy mccarthy yeah she's amazing her book is so good incredible it's a good book

incredible and she and her her book's called i'm glad my mom died and in it the whole book her mom is so up her ass to to do the acting to push her into singing to push her but it sounds like the key that's the common denominator is for the parent to say, if you want to walk away, we can walk away. I think the key and not just subject to entertainment is having a parent who is healthy in that regard that like supports her kid. It's not just an entertainment, right? We've seen crazy football dads who go and like punch out a referee with like eight-year-old peewee games. They're my favorite TikTok clips. The baseball ones too are good.

But you're like, what are you doing? Like you're crushing your kid. Like you're crushing their spirit. And so we see it in every sense, whether it's music or academics or sports. So, but yeah, I mean, I think people like Jeanette was incredibly brave and the way she was able to articulate articulate in her book that it was able to resonate with so many people I think was just it's such a a coup and a testament to her and her talent and ability and and I think you know inevitably in the

industry so many more safeguards need to be put in place and have been put in place since we were there. But so much more needs to continue to get safer and stronger and redundancies and safeguards and overlooks so that we know that like if we're going to allow young people to be in business, that they are protected at all times. What was your personal life like when you were doing all this at that age? Like, were you able to go and run around with the other kids or go to school in a normal way? Or was it just, you know, you were on set and because I imagine that would be, it's normal for you, but very, like when I look back on like this, that would seem very abnormal. It was, I mean, I, I was lucky in the sense that there wasn't social media. So I literally was going and doing this job during the day that i i you know i love that kind of comedy i always say i grew up where my best friends were like the fresh prince of bel-air and ace ventura and billy madison i loved watching family matters and we

were all in that same age group of like tgif yeah those great sitcoms. And there's something, there's some quote where, you know, comedy is justice because in a drama, what I like, you're allowed to not like and vice versa. When a joke gets a laugh, it's, it's clear, right? It either was or wasn't funny. And what I loved about sitcoms was that instant, like, oh, the audience loved it. So I really enjoyed getting to do that kind of comedy. But then I would go home at five o'clock and I lived in like a little apartment in the valley. And I had my best friend who, you know, was going to normal high school and we would like eat, you know, microwave pizza and watch hockey games at his house. So I was sort of living in these two worlds of painfully normal

and then very odd and abnormal. What was your first big break that you had when you were a kid? And was it like, was it like this Eureka moment or was it not that? I did this movie called Snow Day for Nickelodeon. And I remember they called me and they were like, at this time, I auditioned at Nickelodeon three times a week for something a commercial a tv show something that they had at that time but I booked this movie and it's Chevy Chase and it's four months in Canada and uh and it was like my first proper job and I just remember being on that set and thinking like oh I could I could if this is it, I like this. And what was it like? What was like being on set with Chevy Chase?

Being on set with Chevy Chase, I can't really speak to what I can speak to is being in a hotel room with a hundred dollar room service allotment a day. I was like, this is as lit as one could be. Like, this is incredible. Like. And you become a family. And acting, or I should say movies especially, you are this weird traveling circus of gypsies, of these people that are together making this thing. And they're mostly away from their families. And you're spending 10, 12 12 14 hours a day with each other

so you get really close and then you have no one to hang out with after so you all go out to dinner after and i love that because i was an only child like i loved having friends and would your mom travel with you when you were this age okay so she would so it wasn't just you out because i'm you know a lot of actors just go out and leave their family but your mom would actually come with you yes what are the micro moments before you were like 16 that you can pinpoint that were just like big moments for you in your career oh I think like obviously you know getting a role that brought me out to California to move out of New York when I was 14 and um you know on the Amanda show with Amanda Bynes, who's like the greatest ever. I love that show.

Arguably one of our most talented performers, I think, ever, I would say. And getting to be around her and learn from her. I mean, she's a bit older than me, but, you know, it was truly going from like the minor leagues of, you know, school plays and janky stand-up clubs at 10 o'clock at night to working with someone of her experience and level, I felt very lucky. And yeah, I think that was the moment because when suddenly you're sort of pushed into this place

where you're dealing with people that are at such a higher level and you can kind of keep up, where it's not a totally foreign language, you go like, oh, maybe I can do this. Because you worked with Amanda, and you also said earlier you would put all these guardrails in place, I feel like you have a really different perspective. If you could wave a wand right now,

and you could tweak the industry and things that you would change, what are those things that you would change for kids? I think it's what we talked about before, just, again, having immense safeguards in place in every way and redundancies and having there's just no world in which people on set shouldn't be completely and utterly protected at all times, no matter what. When you say like, what do you mean? Like, like when it comes to like the business of their money, when it comes to like just being around adults, like I guess what I'm asking is I don't know what it's like to shoot a TV show. Like what's the day to day? Do you just

mean like being around the right teachers? What does that mean? I think it would it would pertain mostly to, yeah, having great like teachers and the people who are on set who are like their sole job is to make sure that like the kids are having a good experience do they keep you guys on set for a long time yeah i think you work usually like you had to do school and then you had to be on set as well like all day it's a lot of work we were joking when i did a commercial recently and even for 60 you know 60 seconds it was like an all day thing and we're used to doing this. That's why, yeah.

It's just different. It's different. Or like picking up a phone and doing this. It's normal for you, but it's not, like for someone that's never been on set,

I don't think people realize how meticulous it takes to get one minute of content. Right. Yeah, podcasting is, let's not mess around here. It's the greatest job on earth. It is the best.

But again, it's like there's millions. So a testament to you guys that you have found not only a successful pod, but a successful network and able to keep it going. But yeah, I mean, and that's what we found from everyone from Mr. Beast to really successful podcasters and everything in between. It's like the gatekeepers have become more inconsequential. And we were sort of all brought up in a way where for the last 70, 80 years, like TV and movies and traditional sort of creative ventures had to be one way. Yeah. And there was a few people that decided who got the shine and who didn't. Yeah. Let me ask you a different question, like kind of on a tangent here. When you start to have success at that early of an age and you're

making that kind of money that young, how are you able to be responsible or were you not? Do the wheels fall off or do you, you're responsible? Like how do you manage that success and that notoriety that young? Oh, we didn't make a lot of money. So that helped. Um, and I mean, yeah, yeah, we're known, but it was like, again, there's no social media, right? So you're kind of like known to, to 13 year olds. So it's very like, you can sort of, I found at least for me, I was able to sort of navigate it in a way where I was able to keep some semblance of self. And I was also like heavier and insecure. And in an interesting way, I think that was the silver lining.

Like it was sort of my guardian angel because it kept me from ever becoming too impressed with myself. Huh. That's so interesting. If you would have asked me when I was watching Nickelodeon, like little girl, all the shows, I would have said you guys are like multi-millionaires. No, not, I mean, I can only speak to myself, but that was not my experience. When you went out with your mom and you're like out to lunch and are there people coming up to you all the time at 16?

No, we could just go to Cheesecake Factory like civilians. Avocado egg rolls. What's your Cheesecake Factory order, guys? You're like, do they have raw? I know. I'm like, I'm not. Raw milk cheesecake? Cheesecake Factory.

Raw milk cheesecake. Is it my, is it my, that's a cookbook. Are you going to do a cookbook? I feel like that's next. I should do a cookbook called The Bowl of Meat. The Bowl of Meat? It's one one recipe that would crush in austin i started the series on tiktok a bowl of meat with me you know what it's it's i could do a lot of things with a bowl of meat a bowl of meat up i know how to handle meat don't wouldn't you say michael she's good

she's a good meat handler my cheesecake order i don't know what my cheesecake order is uh cheesecake factory order is i i don't i don't feel what my cheesecake order is. Cheesecake factory order is. I don't feel like we go there enough. Heartbreaking. I know. Do you guys have like a chain restaurant you frequent? Oh, yeah. What's our chain restaurant we frequent?

Let's get down. Let's get into the nitty gritty. I love Javier's. There's a lot of chains. Does it work? I like Mr. Chow. I love I love

The Beverly Hills Hotel. Does the Polo Lounge count? P.F. Chang's is great. Come on. A salt and pepper calamari with a brown rice. That's delicious. I also love McDonald's.

I fuck with McDonald's. Taco Bell. McDonald's. A cheeseburger. Just cheese and meat. Happy meal. I don't care what anyone says. I used to work at McDonald's. I love a and meat, happy meal. I don't care what anyone says. I used to work at McDonald's.

I love a number one Big Mac meal. I don't care. Big Mac meal with a side of 10 nuggets. I can make a Big Mac meatball. You can make a Big Mac meatball? Meatball. Meatball. I believe that.

Great. Does that sound good? And totally carnivore for the most part? No, I eat sourdough toast every night. Why at night? It's like her guilty pleasure, no, this is actually what it is. This is, I actually have a whole theory around it that I've never told you. I feel like I've worked so hard during the day and I've put my work in and I've done everything like that I need to do like work wise. And then when I get home and I'm in bed, completely relaxed, my kids are asleep,

there is nothing better than crunching a piece of sourdough. It's like, it's a nightcap. There's nothing worse than laying in the crumbs after.

I don't give a shit. Figure it out. You lay in the crumbs? She eats, there's crumbs everywhere. That's nuts. That's a what are you nuts? In bed.

In bed. Yeah, I'm not, yeah, it's too much. We're not on the couch. Nope. And then she gives it to our four-year-old daughter and they like have a daughter moaning bonding. We have no way.

It's called our slumber party and we have toast in bed. And I come home and there's crumbs everywhere. Salad of crumbs. Sometimes we'll do cinnamon raisin with raw butter and flirty cell salt. Good for you. Same here, but for us, it's Cheetos. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. She likes spicy hot Cheetos with it's Cheetos no I'm kidding spicy hot Cheetos the red Cheetos what do you love a Cheeto of course I love a

Cheeto I like the the spicy hot ones a flamin hot but the problem is is that there's evidence right cuz these three fingers they're gonna be red for 18 to 36 hours in your mouth yeah you also don't want to give a hand job after them totally oh my god it's like if you had it really disrupts his tiger bomb can 36 hours. Yeah, you also don't want to give a hand job after them. Totally. Oh my God. It's like if you had... It really disrupts his... Tiger bomb on your hand. Can you imagine? Yeah, Bengay.

Can you imagine if he... Using Bengay as lube? That would be... Yeah, that's cruel punishment. I had a buddy that one time made jalapeno poppers before he took this woman, this girl on a date, and he got all the jalapeno oil everywhere. He finger banged her? No.

Why do you have to be... People knew what he did, but it was a whole, it was a whole problem. Okay. Well, let's talk a second. Let's timeline here. Let's get forensic about it. Okay. So he makes a jalapeno poppers around four, four 30.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like he just made them there. Like he had her over at her house and he made the jalapeno poppers, which by the way, that's a wild dish to select when you're courting a lady. That's something I would do. I mean, if your turn on is, you know, bubble guts. But he didn't know that you could get the jalapeno oil on your fingers and that the jalapeno oil would transfer. And then he didn't wash after.

No. Not well enough. And then they got, what, during the frying, they got all jazzed up and began. No, no, I think they ate the meal and then the oil was all over. There was a post hooking up with the jalapeno poppers? I guess so. That's dangerous. Wild time.

Wild times. But I remember you telling me the story and the girl was really freaked out because obviously she's burning and on fire and he was, you know, the whole thing. I need to hear about your weight loss journey. Okay. What a transition. A hundred pounds that you lost without Ozepic. That's the new headline.

That's the new headline. Does that piss you off? Not really. I wonder if it was available, if I would have even taken advantage. I would have. Shout out. I'm just waiting for the Munjaro endorsement. Ben, my co-host on the Great Good Guys podcast here at Dear Media, he always gives me shit for calling it Munjaro endorsement. Ben, my co-host on the Great Good Guys podcast

here at Dear Media, he always gives me shit for calling it Munjaro. He's like, it's Mun. I'm like, sounds like someone on the shit. Yeah, I like, how do you say it? Munjaro? Munjaro? Munjaro.

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I just overdo it. overdo it i just overdo it i think i'm a big overdoer i think i had some shit that i needed to work out you know in my life with dad stuff and life stuff and i didn't know at the time that i was probably sort of like numbing that with sorry was your dad ever in your life no never and did you did you ever meet him no i never met him. And he passed away before I got a chance to. So shout out to that. Perfect record.

Wow. You don't have to be sorry. Were your parents together when he passed? No, no, no. No. Okay. Can you imagine if my parents were together, but I'd never met him? Well, that doesn't make any sense.

No, no. What do you know? I was saying like, where's your mom pregnant? And then he passed. Where's dad? He's downstairs. Do you know what I was saying like, where's your mom pregnant? And then he passed. Where's dad? He's downstairs. Leave him alone. Like my, my, no, my, my thought was like, they were together.

She was pregnant. He passed before you were born. Oh, sure. No, no. He, they kind of had a, a sort of rendezvous. He, she was one of his concubines and yeah, it was a random night in New York and they did and she became pregnant at 43 and wow wow yeah it's it doesn't make sense well it does make sense because you're here i am here

i am i'm thriving i'm very lucky it all makes sense everything's happening for you that's what i say to myself every morning when i wake up what other affirmations do you have that's my main one everything's happening for you i believe that so's my main one. Everything's happening for you. I believe that. So if I miss my plane, everything's happening for me. Love that. It works. It works great. You should try it. It's so fucking frustrating. It'd just be like 4 or 3

in the morning. I'm like, you have to be at the airport in 30 minutes. She's like, no, I think I'm good. And I'm like, no. And then she misses. I'm like, she's like, ah, everything's happening for me. I'm like, you have to be up like an hour and a half before that. Sure. Okay. I'm trying to get Josh's weight loss tips, please.

Everything's happening for us. Go ahead. Explain your tips. How'd you even start? What was the first thing you changed? It's not, it wasn't that special. I remember I was 17. I had just, we used to spend a month over the summer in New York

so I would go see all my friends and what not and I just kind of started I let go of a lot of that anger and I don't know about the dad stuff and the life stuff and whatever and just like angry young men you know what I mean that angst and I started walking the city

which was my favorite thing to do and I would like listen to music and I just felt like it was possible. I did Atkins, old school carnivore. Love it. I probably knocked off 30 or 40 pounds the first month or two. Then over the next year and a half, I lost the rest of the weight. It's probably super empowering when you see that kind of weight come off that quickly.

You start to think, I can do it. Yeah, it's helpful. And it's, look, I understand why people are fascinated by it. And I think for me, had I done it sort of more privately or I wasn't in such a public place, I think I probably would think about it, be less a part of my story. Cause there'd just be like, wow, you were like, we'd look back at yearbooks and be like, geez, Josh, do you have a thyroid issue and i'd be like i had a snickers issue but but really i lost weight very publicly and so understandably people are very interested in it so it's and i'm glad if in some way me being heavier on tv could like empower other kids who didn't fit like the perfect body type or whatever to be like, wow, he's, he's having a good time and he's not tripping on how he looks. Yeah. Well, I think

people can see it's possible. Yeah. Right. And they don't feel like it's like a lot of people and other than anything, right. They just feel like that's for other people, not for me type thing. Right. And they see like, oh, or I couldn't do that. Yeah. Or like, but they see someone who maybe they see themselves in or that they're related or that's relatable to them. They're like, oh, if he or she can do it, then I can too. Totally. And, you know, the beautiful thing that has come out of sort of like the last 10 years of really this body positivity 180 is that there are all these beautiful body types and

looks that are embraced and sort of they're just very well, you know, people are getting roles now in ways that didn't happen when I was sort of on TV in that way. So I think that's great. When people slide into your DMs, what's the most... It's all bots. No, I don't believe it. What are people saying? Are they like trying to hook up with you?

Are they trying to reminisce? Are they trying to ask a question about a hot tip on how to lose weight? What's the common denominator? I don't know. It's unhinged. I know. That's why I can't wait. Why is it unhinged?

I'm very publicly married and happy like married guy. So I think people are pretty respectful of that. And then it's a lot of bots there's no butthole no are you getting butthole um i've got a throbbing veiny penis multiple times wow mazel what's wrong with us i don't know i don't know why so i don't i've never understood my favorite one i haven't talked about this one on the podcast. My favorite one was when I got one of a guy fucking a dildo on a bathtub ledge up and down. And that one was unique. That is unique.

That got your attention and you're talking about it on the podcast. It was years ago. And was it just the video or was there a caption? There was no no caption it was just the guy fucking the dildo off the bathtub it'd be nice if he put a little thought a little i could have done a heart like if he just wrote whoops yeah or like or wrong person that's a good one if you want to do it you could say taylor's telling he's laughing so hard because he knows he's not in the room anymore and then there was another one that i got where a girl cut my face out of every single picture of me and michael and implemented her face into it and then i had someone send me all these pictures that were of me but with my face cut out with her face saying that michael was cheating on me that was you i. I feel like you got to get an interesting...

There's got to be a couple DMs that you're just like... Shout out. Like, crazy. No, it's random. Mostly, it's people asking me to be on their podcast. Oh. It's a lot of podcast requests. One guy hits me up to be my...

He's like, you seem to need a jeweler. I'm like, baby, I got two kids and a wife the last thing I need is a high-end jeweler in Miami dog um maybe it's trade though I don't know it's like um yeah the jeweler hits me up a lot and yeah and then like a lot of rando bots how did you meet your wife we We met at a Halloween party. What were you dressed as? I was dressed as a waiter and she was dressed

as a pink lady from Greece. That's funny. I got to tell you, if a guy approached me and they were dressed like a waiter, I would find that very witty. How does one dress as a waiter?

I find that... What do you mean? Like a white jacket. Okay. I was vain. Like a fancy waiter. I actually had gone to a dinner before

and I'm like, what could I wear to the dinner that then would make me look... I was working at the restaurant. No. Oh, I was vain. Like a fancy waiter. I actually had gone to a dinner before and I'm like, what could I wear to the dinner that then would make me look, you know, I was working at the restaurant. No, I got up early. But yeah, we just, I was vain and wanted to look cute. And she obviously couldn't do anything but look cute. And it doesn't make sense why I got her phone number. And now 13 years later, we have two kids are married and we've been together since.

And you guys sound like you have a very healthy relationship. What do you think is the key? Her. Oh, hello. Take note. Wow. Everything's working for me. I wish I could give the same answer.

What do you think the key to the relationship is? What did my dad say? He's like, I don't speak and I don't hear. That's what he said. Smart man. That's a smart man. But I hear too much and I speak way too often. All you do is speak.

We'll see what happens. I speak for a living. Are you the stoic one in the relationship? Less reactive? Well, let's practice some self-awareness here, Lauren. Go ahead. I think it depends which day of the week you catch either of us on. Fair.

I'm pretty, I'm stoic in business for sure. I think it depends which day of the week you catch either of us on. I'm stoic in business for sure. Maybe less stoic in my personal life. I look at the business as like it's hard to rattle me. We've gone through COVID and all these different periods of time running a media company. The whole time I feel like I'm just like, okay, we'll figure it out, fine. But the kid stuff and the marriage stuff, I can get rattled on that stuff easier.

Yeah. The more personal, I guess the stuff that maybe matters more. I get rattled, you're right. It's fair. That's a good thing to care about. Yeah. Are you the more stoic one?

No, my wife is. Why? I think she comes from a family of athletes. Her dad was a professional football player. And they're Irish Catholic, beautiful people who are probably a little bit more chill in the emotional department. I've never heard Irish Catholic people described as more stoic and chill, but go on. But wouldn't you say? I mean, you know, smash down their feelings. But yeah, my wife is pretty common common but she will get a little bit

rattled when like like i'm great when the kids are sick like i i've also just always wanted to be a doctor rattles me she's calm during you like when the kids are sick i don't like it but i'm fine i'm not sneezing on them josh pack loves when his kids are sick headline it's the worst but i'm like i can handle it i've got like a very and this is not medical advice okay so i know they're gonna come at me in the comments but like do you have those you know we all a lot of people bought them in um in covid the the o2 meters the oxygen meters yeah and you know ideally if you're above 95 like that to me as a parent has bought me so much peace of mind for just those nights where

your kid like might be a little creepy or might have like a little bit i know i'm gonna get just filleted in the comments here this is i'm just saying what you're talking about because when they're because for a kid it's scary when that's when those numbers drop well no yes exactly and especially like when they get colds or sinus stuff or whatever and they've got a terrible terrible cough and you're like, should we, should we not go to urgent care? Like those moments where I like see that their numbers are good. And obviously I call the pediatrician. I make sure everything's cool, but it gives me a lot of peace of mind. Cause I'm like, okay, he's fine. His numbers are good. You need to buy one of those and be checking. You have it? Yeah, I have it. Okay. Mostly mostly for myself i like to go off my intuition

michael's a little more numbers like that he likes to see the logistics the behind the scenes kids just like vomiting violence like everything's happening for me not for little towns but for me no that's the stuff that like she's very good Like when our kids get hurt or sick and I'm like, oh, she's like, calm down. She's good at that. Oh, really? But like, I would say in the business. Oh, here it is.

It's called a compliment sandwich. Go ahead. But in the business, listen, in the business stuff, I feel like I'm more, I'm more calm than you. You know what? Whatever you want to think, I'm going to let you think. What do you think? I think that I am more even keeled than you.

In every situation? Yeah. Oh my God. I'm going to throw this back. I'm not getting that here. Just as the top of this triangle. But I'm willing to learn more. What are you getting?

What are you getting? You have a wonderful effervescence energy to you. And I mean, granted, this is the first time we're meeting. But every interaction I've had with Michael has been pretty stoic. Okay. But I, I look forward to having more interactions with you. I think if you saw him behind the scenes,

he's a little, um, I don't, what's the word? Uh, careful, impatient, but that's okay.

I am too. That's okay. He's self aware about that I'm so Yeah I mean I I'm no I'm very macro patient Micro inpatient

True I'll give him that I'll give him a compliment Like for example I don't think you can be Either of us I don't think you can be married As long as we've all been married

To not If you're not macro patient Or I don't think you can Build a career Or a long term venture If you're not macro I will say though It works for him because

he likes things the way he likes it. But I can't sit around and talk about the breeze. We've got to get to the point of whatever we're doing here. He likes to get to the point. He's a get to the point kind of guy. We do these prompts when we go to dinners with groups. We go around and a prompt would be like

pot stirring prompts. So you could be there with a new couple and be like, what's the best sexual experience you've had? Wow, do you guys really do prior to your relationship single vacation? We go around a table of 12 find out like well We get a big head and skate. It's fine. You'll come sometime and we'll Have been skate. It sounds like what was the other one? What was the the club sanctum oh he came on the show he did wow is it still going yeah okay he's got a new one i mean i don't know no you're like oh what's the number again it's crazy um yeah he came on the show recently um but no it's we do these prompts and like one of the prompts are like what are your peeves i feel like you and you and ben would have great

you would have great answer we could just go what peeves? Well, you have to be respectful. Look, in 90% of situations, I think this is a sign of ADHD. I can predict your answer. And I'm pretty right. Seven, excuse me, seven out of eight times, like seven to eight out of 10 times, I'm right. And I would love to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're saying that when you ask a question you can predict what people are gonna say usually or at least because i know my wife so well there are many times where i could be like and then what did she so what did your friend say that annoyed you right but she's got

to tell me about the restaurant you gotta just yeah we gotta know every detail she's gotta be you know and and you know what so now i pause and go of course she does because i yammer about my i don't want to call it bullshit but i talk about my like work and stuff that i imagine she finds insufferable so i allow i want to hear it and then and then she gets to the little cherry on top Yeah, I think that that's being married. That's a really good way to describe it, is you have to hear each other's shit all day long and you do start to know what they're going to say. Yeah.

I also know, like, I've never told you this. I know, like, how to react when he tells me a certain, like, or he gives me a certain mood. Like, if he comes in stressed like i now know how to act i'll give you don't yeah no you don't yeah you stress i'll give you a good one i know that when we're on a trip with our kids that if i don't have things organized the second we get in the room that he's gonna he's gonna start with his stewing so what i've started to do you don't even know this is the second we arrive i start to organize

everything just like in piles the vitamins are here the frothers here your weird creepy smoothie situations here like you're traveling with a frother yeah okay it's amazing that's like that meme of like if I won the lottery, I wouldn't tell anyone, but there would be signs to see you back in the frother. I got a hack. I Amazon most of the stuff. Okay, so for what, you know, we're traveling with all the kids and I'm like, we got to get diapers and

all that, you know. It's like a traveling circus. You have a hack that's Amazon? Wow, that is profound. This is a hack for the parents out there. Okay. Most places, especially domestically,

you can get things like day of or day after. So I just know where I'm going and I have everything shipped to the hotel instead of carrying it. That's smart.

That's Amazon. But to the point, I travel with a little Ninja Blender. I have it shipped there so I get there so I get my protein powder and all my stuff.

How do you do that when you have to go on set and you have two kids and a wife? Do they come with you? Do they stay? What do you do that when you have to go on set and you have two kids and a wife? Do they come with you? Do they stay? What do you do? Like if I'm traveling for work?

Yeah. I mean, obviously the dream is to get a long-term job in LA, but it's nearly impossible. Like I was working on a show for Disney Plus for nine months over COVID in Vancouver. Were you in a bubble? A bubble town? Kind of.

I mean, Vancouver had such low cases and so basically i remember it was just my older son max so end of august 2020 we get there it's two weeks of um isolation so we get a house in north vancouver and it was my wife her cousin sam my son and me and me. And it was incredible. It was beautiful. And we just stayed in the house. We had a backyard. And we just ordered in food.

And then it was nine months of work and testing three times a week masks. But they were with me. And it was kind of wonderful. We had this amazing experience together. But it's funny because we got home April 2021. And then I got another job in toronto in june and i had to go isolate again for two weeks but now i'm alone because there was only like a three-week gig she's like you're doing this one yourself so this time it's two weeks just me in an apartment much less romantic i was averaging in that apartment, much less romantic. I was averaging in that apartment and I had a small

deck, 30,000 steps a day. I was losing my mind. Just pacing around? I would pace and take phone calls and watch TikToks. I would just pace and listen to podcasts. You know what though? If this is a hot tip for all wives, if you to remind your husband like how great you are and how lucky they are to be in your presence a little absence is a great way to do it like what I do is I'll go away for four days and then I'll be like yeah I will wow I did it I did it for a bachelor party you freaked out I go away once like I've done it a couple times sometimes I'll leave the house and go to the foot spa for like 8 hours

and leave you at home I think a little absence like that's kind of I'm like god damn this video game is awesome I haven't had a chance to play it

it's like man I'm like whatever happened to Lauren it's amazing you go to the foot spa for 9 hours no I go to the foot spa you get kneecaps rubbed what's going on there

I get everything rubbed good 4 hours one person on each foot and I get to work for four hours. Oh, and you're on the laptop. Just on my laptop or my phone or just working. So when do drugs and alcohol enter your life?

Solid. At what point in your career do you start to kind of experiment with drugs and alcohol? Because we were talking about you've been in recovery. That's a topic that comes up on this show all the time and we've talked about a lot. But when does that start to happen during your career um funny enough right after i lost like all the weight i kind of just feeling too good i think i think my i had a new body but the same mind and so it needed something to calm it and numb it out and then was the choice well i'm 17 and I'm supremely stupid. As I said

recently on, on our podcast, good guys to miss Pat. I said, you know, I was on everything but skates. So you name it. I was, I was having fun and it just quickly became a, it went from being like sort of 18 and just dumb. And if I was in college, you would just equate it to like, just what people do and their knuckleheads at that age to being a problem. And, And if I was in college, you would just equate it to like just what people do and their knuckleheads at that age to being a problem. And I was lucky enough to get sober at 21 and knock what I've been able to stay sober ever since. How did you know it was a problem? Like when does it cross the line from where it's fun college to a problem? I think what helped was that I had years of evidence when I was heavy and as I said

I knew I was like josh you overdo it Like that was the thing like in all things and so I had had all this evidence since I was like Seven eight years old and a lot of that terminal uniqueness, right of just feeling like different then that if I passed you in the hallway and I saw you, I was worried about what you thought. And if you didn't see me, then I was disappointed, right? Like I was just constantly at a state of discomfort. And so I found these ways in which to sort of numb those feelings, but it had diminishing returns. And so, you know, at 21, I think when I, I did it through sort of traditional 12 step recovery, but I found these, you know, these rooms, these meetings of people that

were like me, it was a watershed moment because I'd walked through my whole life feeling so unique and so different and you don't get me. And if you had my head on your shoulders and you would drink too, but then suddenly I'm in this room of people and they're not a glum lot they're like cool and happy and they have families and careers and i'm like oh it's it's possible so when you would partake was it to go was it to just numb out or did you go party and it was one of those things where like you crack one and like 15 later you're like i'm not done like what yeah every everyite cliche, everything you see. And like, I always try to like, I try to talk about it in a general way.

Just doesn't make for good clips. Sorry. But like, it doesn't. Because, you know, I know the way people like to run with like the one line from someone's journey in that way. But again, for me, like, I know that it could even be working out. Right. I anything done in excess can become negative. And what do you mean the one? I feel like that's like, is that like media train? What do you mean? Like when you say like the one line clips, like you're saying TikTok will put a one line clip and they'll write a headline on you no yeah sure like there there's certainly like a lot of I I guess my my desire is not to focus on the thing right because we know that like drugs and alcohol or you know some people can handle it and for some people it's not a great thing I always try to to focus on the recovery aspect of it in that I had an issue I overdid it I think

you could substitute it out with everything people overdo. I could get really into smoking cigarettes. I could get into overly spending, like you name it, right? So how do you manage that in other areas if you know you're an overdoer? Well, I think it's like that, right? It's that spiritual sort of journey that is very unique to everyone. But if you have that hole in the soul, you'll use anything to fill it up. You know what I mean? And so I think it's you realizing, you know, there's that great quote of like, there's two, the two most important times in your life is when you're born and when you

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that I found a healthy way to quiet that voice. And what do you do now? Like what's, what is your, I guess your daily routines look like to quiet that voice and to stay in a good headspace? Yeah, besides recovery, I was just, that's what I was just going to ask you. Are there other things that you do on a daily basis or on a weekly basis? Yeah. I mean, I do like, I try to like get a sweat in every day, just get those natural sort of endorphins and dopamine and serotonin. And I try to, you know, do selfless acts and not get caught, you know? So I try to do good things and not get caught about it. I work, I feel bad i i do put it on social media but it's only to get attention to this great foundation i work with called feed the streets where we actually like get up like we

open up two sort of folding tables on skid row on tuesday and thursday morning we hand out donuts and coffee and food and um and you know i if I start my day like that on a Tuesday morning at 7 a.m., like there's a good chance I will have a good rest of my day. How are you going to do that with your kids? Because we have kids that are about the same age. Do you bring them along or will you bring them along? What do you think you're going to do to show your kids that? I try to. During the holidays, I go to the LA Mission and we'll hand out food for Easter or Christmas. And I brought my son for Easter. And he's only five years old, but I'm trying to sort of instill that in him. And just this idea of like,

I remember when he started to notice that sometimes people would take pictures with me, right? And I didn't want him to be inconvenienced right because he only knows me as his dad and we're out having a good time at Dave and Buster's or whatever and you know I felt bad that he might be interrupted but I also of course wanted to honor the people who were nice enough to come up to me so I sort of said to him I said you know dad has a funny job and sometimes people like to come up and chat or take a picture and I was like and I'm sorry if it takes a chat or take a picture. And I was like, and I'm sorry if it takes a few,

you know, a minute away or whatnot. I said, but we also get to do like, we all, this is why we get a guide at Disneyland. You know, I try to sort of say like,

we also get to do some cool stuff because of dad's weird job. And, uh, and he kind of gets it. The prides. Yeah. Oh, you guys know,

you guys, you're not going general admission at Disney. You guys are getting the guides. You know, I just, Disneyland, Disneyland to me, like,

it's got to be a seamless experience because if you, it's a lot of work to just go and just, it's a lot. Except the last,

the last guide ate my big pickle. Oh, he's not over this. And I looked over and went, where's my pickle? And the guy was just crunching it down. He got too comfortable. No, he deserved it.

He was great. What is Best Bite Wins? Tell us about this situation. It's executive produced by you. It's my new show on Roku. It's a cooking competition show completely based around hors d'oeuvres. And so it's insane that it never got made before. But so here's an example.

We have six chefs are incredible. Imagine every episode is so Lauren and Michael want to throw a party and the theme is health optimization. And you say, I want to use all raw dairy and we don't want gluten or whatever it is, whatever your limits are. Maybe you don't like seafood. Maybe you want it to be more a wrestling theme. So then the chefs are tasked with putting together 50 to 75 bites inspired with these sort of like guides from you guys. And then we have the party and the people at the party decide who wins. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

Wait, why can't they do bowl of meats? Little bowl of meats. You could put the parameter. We'd have to find some very small ramekins, I think, for it to be a passable thing. Okay. But I'm down to try. A bowl of meats, raw cheese, raw milk,

and bowl of meats. I don't know how many people are showing up to your party. What do you mean? I would come. It's a farty party. Do you know that Paul Saladino came on the podcast and he agreed. Did he bring his own coconuts?

That was wild. He brought me raw honey. That clip is wild. He does travel. It is. You know, we've had the pleasure of sitting with Paul a few times and he does travel with the coconuts and the honey. Wait, what's so wild about the coconuts?

He had a sack full of coconuts. He had a sack full of coconuts as his carry-on? I mean, I don't think that's that wild. That's wild? Me either. No, I mean, he's very interesting. He'd be a good guest for your show. Yeah, I'd love to have him.

I would love to see a good guest episode with Paul Saladino. That would be hilarious. But Paul said that meat essentially does the same thing that Ozempic does, because it keeps you full and it curbs your appetite so you don't overeat. Got it. Just saying. Got it. I hear that.

Life changing. It's just if you increase your protein intake, you're going to be satiated. Who else are you guys into? And who's on the periphery? And who's on the outs? What do you mean? I feel like you guys hang out with Aubrey Marcus a lot. No.

Aubrey's not on the show. Do you know what's something funny? No. Because he's an Austin guy. We hang out with just like our friends that we've had for a while. We don't hang out with anyone.

You know what's so funny and maybe you'll relate to this. When you do something like this, it requires a lot of like draining the social batteries. Would you agree? Sure. Especially like you're just doing this a lot. And draining the social batteries would you agree like you're doing like especially like you're just doing this a lot and and so when we get a moment like we're talking

about texas out there we get a moment at home we're just like we're done let's kick the feet up no there's no show together chill with the kids no we're like actually kind of boring like you know and i think people that come on the show are looking for us to be more exciting and don't you think that's the same with you with Hollywood? Like if I were to say, oh, are you hanging out with, I mean, it says on here that's like Kathy Bates, Diane Keaton, fucking Tom Hanks. It's like, oh, if I really, Matt Damon, Robert Downey Jr.

Like when you leave, are you like hanging out in the Hollywood crowd or do you just want to go be like just be chill yeah dude i mean i'm 37 too and i've got the kids and my wife and i i find that i think that's a saving grace for all of us to be honest is that like i love this it's so corny so forgive me i love between action and cut there's nothing i love more i find it transcendent like when you're there and all your preparations there and this is just a 60 minute action and cut right like this is the moment everything else that surrounds it i have little to no interest in you know we had um are you familiar with it you just said it way more eloquently with ryan

holidays work at all? So Ryan, I wrote a book. Okay. Ryan Holiday is a good friend and he was my sort of book coach. Amazing. That's cool. And your memoir is called Happy People Are Annoying. Yes. Ryan's been a friend for a long time and he was recently on the show and we were talking

about this because he was like, you know, you get these opportunities to go and do the thing and it takes a long time to do the thing. And then once you get the thing, like you start getting all these like random opportunities where you get invited to maybe some of the soirees or the part of the things. But that means like, if you say yes to those, it means you're obviously saying no to something else, like no time with your kids or your wife or like no time. And I think like to your point, Lauren and I get so excited about this and meeting the people we get to meet on the show and then excited about time with like the other stuff.

There's maybe some times that it's interesting, but it's less interesting compared to all the stuff that we actually really like to like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, and it's also, it's a lot of smoozing and a lot of this and that,

you know, it's a lot of, I'm not a big schmoozer, but you know, I always look through the lenses. Is it worth being away from my children? Totally. you know it's a lot of not a big schmoozer but you know i i always look through the lenses is it worth being away from my children totally and if it's a no and it's social i'd rather be marinating with a little bit of sourdough toast with a little bit of lard to sell salt in my bed but if dr conover comes into town we're going to dinner yeah i'm dying i've never met him in the flesh oh the best he's the best he's come here a few times

he's helped me with a bunch of stuff but i um yeah i've like i remember because i have a small part in oppenheimer and we got to go when we when the movie won the golden globes we we got to go to this party after the universal through and it was like one of those rare moments and it was like me and some of the smaller parts people you know like the scientists and whatnot and then they all usher they usher us into this room for a great photo and then robert downey jr walks in and mad and uh christopher nolan and his wife emma and it's just fabulous and it was like that was one of those rare moments where i was like that's cool i can't believe i'm here. I'm so glad I came. Because when you have kids, it's like right to the last minute, you're like, I could not go.

Right? You're like, oh! I could not go. Fuck! Yeah. You know? You're like, oh! And you know that you'll regret it for, or you'll feel bad for seven minutes.

No, you had to go to that. That's worth it. And that was a gift and honor to be there. I made no sense being there. No, but that to go to that. That's worth it. And that was a gift and honor to be there. I made no sense being there. No, but that's like a monument. That was really cool of it. But I don't need to go to the cocktail party up in a hill somewhere

with a bunch of people that I don't really know standing around like, how do I behave in here? That I'm not interested in. I know, unless there's good gifting. Unless there's something free. I don't think we get invited. I'll say it.

I'm just going to say it. Unless it's sanct gifting. Unless there's something free. I don't think we get invited. I'll say it. I'm just going to say it. Unless it's sanctum. No. Yeah. Well, you're going to get something free then. By the way, if you guys want Damon on your show, that could be another interesting one. He was a great guest. You guys should have him on. I think Lauren and I may be past our point of being able to participate in those. At this point, it just seems like it's opening more issues than we can handle. Yeah. Wait, I have to ask you this before you go. Why are happy people annoying? What's the

premise of that? It was my book agent thought it'd be a great title. It is a good title. It's a really good title. No, it was her idea and she was brilliant about it. But I don't know. At first, I was unsure about the title. I just't know you know at first I was like unsure about the title I just liked it and I felt like it was good for the book and then now it's even grown on me in the last couple years it's funny yeah I don't know I guess it's just because I always had this image of these Finnish people that were all walking around and they just seemed like they got this manual on life that I never received it got got lost in the mail. And sort of finding my own journey of like how to land in happiness or have some fleeting version of it that comes and goes like

the weather has been my kind of life's journey. And to feel that sometimes, especially those weird, I walked my son to school today and my little guy who's two years old was in the, you know, the, I call it a carriage, the stroller. And I like, and I just looked at the back of both their heads as we're walking. And I was like, remember this, remember this, remember this. And those are the moments. Those are the moments. Yeah. That's what you give the party up for to do those moments. Yeah. Special moments. Josh Peck, you're welcome back anytime. Thank you. Truly. We talked about all different kinds of things.

You can come back anytime and we can let it rip. And I have to give you a compliment, which maybe I might get shit for later. But, you know, we have a lot of great podcasts on Dear Media. I tune into you and Ben's clips all the time. I laugh hysterically. You guys are so good at what you do. Honored.

Thank you for hosting us. We love being here. This is great. Let's go eat a meatball. I would love a meat bowl. Yeah. We could do a good guy's meat bowl. Hmm. I like it.

Let me think about what would be in that. A lot of sausage, finely chopped. Some kind of sauce. Ouch. Yeah, a little ketchup for some. Ketchup? No. You cannot put ketchup on the meat.

Too much sugar and ketchup not in primal kitchen what okay so are you really doing mcdonald's and taco bell every now and then i do mcdonald's every two months when i come back from a trip and i'm feeling depleted and i just want a little i used to work at mcdonald's and there's something nostalgic to me about it you know used to be a number two was there's something nostalgic to me about, it used to be a number two was the two cheeseburger meal, but now I think they've changed it. But the number one is always the Big Mac, right?

Taylor, they didn't even change that. Yeah, number one still. I'm a single cheeseburger man myself. There's something about a McDonald's Coca-Cola and the nuggets on the side. It's like, you can never go wrong. Listen, I love Paul Saladino and a lot of people that come on the show i'm gonna eat a fucking big mac if i want a big mac right i'm gonna live a little bit like you gotta you're what i think sometimes with these guys and these girls that are so on this crazy health kick and maybe i get labeled that is sometimes which comes with the people that come on

the show it's like my whole thing is if you're doing it right most of the time and your body is resilient enough to get rid of the bad stuff in your system, like you have to be able to do that. Like when, you know, I love guys like Huberman and he's been on the show when he says, okay, like how many drinks is too much? And I know this is not for people in recovery, but he's like, okay, two is the max. I'm like, listen, man, if I'm only going to have two, like, I'm not, I just don't want to do it at all. Like you got to live a little. Interesting. That's my thought on it too. Right. I don't have rules around the way I eat. There's no rules.

People keep asking me. You can't be so scared of a little bit of, you know, comfort food or poor food choices once in a while. Give you that rigid. If I can't have a piece of sourdough in my bed at night, what is the point? What about a nice piece of Wonder Bread? Get real gross. I don't like a Wonder Bread. Of course What about a nice piece of Wonder Bread? Get real gross. I don't like a Wonder Bread. Of course not.

I've never had Wonder Bread ever. Does Wonder Bread sponsor any Dear Media? We love you, Wonder Bread. Wonder Bread, I'd love a deal. The blue and the green, or the blue and the yellow and the red thing? Yeah, Wonder Bread. My bag. But because sourdough bread is sort of like acclaimed as like, if you're going to eat any bread, it's, what is it?

It's already fermented. It's fermented, but it's so good. Good on the biome. You don't think so? I love sourdough. I get it from the farmer's market. Could you imagine all of us in a farmer's market in Austin with our children? Why don't you come to Austin?

Have you been out there? Go, let's get a compound. We'll go to the farmer's market. I was going to say, you know, you were doing, you guys were doing the kind of like the lockdowns and the bubbles and we, because there was, you were guarding against COVID and we just went to Austin and there was no COVID in Austin.

Wow. There was none. They just said. Wait, so you're already drinking your raw milk and having your raw butter if you're going to the farmer's market. You're halfway, you're like 90% of the way there. Next time you come back, you'll have a glass of raw milk, some raw meat. I'll be on TRT. Some organs, yeah. TRT, it up and a little hh why not yeah yeah a little ipamorella

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