The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Julie Bowen - Modern Advice & Unfiltered Hollywood Stories

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

#708: Today we're sitting down with Julie Bowen. Julie Bowen is an award-winning actress, best known for playing Claire Dunphy on the sitcom Modern Family, Carol Vessey on Ed, and Denise Bauer on Boston Legal. We sit down for a conversation about her career, what it was like to work with and meet extremely famous people, and why she started JB SKRUB, her self-care line for tween boys. We also discuss the lack of a market for clean products for men and boys, why quitting can be the best decision you ever make, and how she balances family and her career.   To connect with Julie Bowen click HERE To connect with JB SKRUB click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. Use code SKINNY20 for 20% off your first purchase at jbskrub.com This episode is brought to you by Sunday Lawn Care Sunday is available at Target, Walmart, and Lowe’s stores nationwide. Use code SKINNY20 for 20% off your custom lawn plan on getsunday.com This episode is brought to you by Hiya Health Hiya Health fill in the most common gaps in modern children's diet to provide full-body nourishment our kids need with a yummy taste they love. Go to hiyahealth.com/skinny to receive 50% off your first order. This episode is brought to you by Primally Pure If you're tired of discomfort during your menstrual cycle, try the Cycle Soothing Spray from Primally Pure at primallypure.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY for 15% off your order. This episode is brought to you by Nutrafol Nutrafol is the #1 dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement, clinically shown to improve your hair growth, thickness, and visible scalp coverage. Go to nutrafol.com and use code SKINNYHAIR to save $10 off your first month's subscription, plus free shipping. This episode is brought to you by Pique Visit piquelife.com/skinny to get up to 15% off and a free cup and frother + free shipping for life. This episode is brought to you by Jaspr Visit jaspr.co and use code SKINNY for 10% off your first purchase. Produced by Dear Media

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You guys, Julie Bowen is on the Him and Her show. Julie is obviously an award-winning actress. You all recognize her face, I'm sure. She also started a new self-care line for tween boys. It's called JB Scrub. In this episode, we talk about Julie's first break, the process of growing up as an actress in LA, working with Adam Sandler, balancing work, family, being a mother, the Modern Family cast, her opinion on quitting,

which is super interesting, and why she started her skincare brand. With that, Julie, welcome to the show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Taylor's ready. She texts you four times. I texted him once. I called him four times. Okay. You know, Taylor, you are such a liability. We've also known Taylor since we were 12. Oh, I was going to say, how does he have so much job security if he's a guy whose phone doesn't work?

You know, Taylor, I say we have very important people coming in the studio with Julie today. And of course, she's downstairs and she's calling you incessantly over and over. You don't know. How does he have jobs? He knows too much about me, so I can't get rid of him ever. He does. Okay. I want to.

There's so many like ways. It's like an octopus to take this conversation. But first I want to know, I'm just curious about your life before fame. Oh. What? Before you were famous. You got to give me like a genre of the life, like an area. Give us where you grew up, how you were as a kid. Give us all the details.

I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland, and I'm one of three girls. I'm the middle daughter. Most people think I'm the oldest, though, because I'm neurotic and I'm constantly looking at the clock and trying to take care of people in that way and make sure everybody gets where they should go. And my older sister is much more fun. Everybody meets her goes, oh my God, Molly's fantastic. She is. She truly is. And then my younger sister is also fantastic and is a infectious disease doctor in San Francisco.

Yeah. Working on HIV, TB, and of course, COVID, which everybody loves. So I grew up in Baltimore and I mean, wasn't allowed to watch TV. No, no, we could watch specials. You two are too young, but there used to be like, it would say like specials and it would be like S-P-E over the C, the whole world word would spin over and like tingles would go up my spine because that meant I get to watch it. I was so excited. It was like a treat. It was such a treat. And I snuck MASH when my mom was doing errands. So my first crush was Alan Alda, naturally.

So when you look back, is that the epiphany for when you wanted to be on television? I never thought I did want to be on television. I wanted to be like a serious, like, theater actor. I wanted to go into Shakespeare. And I could never get hired for theater to save my life. I started getting jobs and soaps and doing commercials. And then they were like, it's time to move to LA. And I thought, no, no, no, I'm going to be a serious actor. And I said, everyone will make fun of me if I go to LA. And they do. And they did. But I don't care. What was your first big break? I mean, I was doing, I did a bunch I did a bunch of commercials and then I did, as soon as I moved out to LA, I got this movie.

They were doing them. Showtime was doing a series of remakes of B movies from the fifties that were jailbreak junkies or motorcycle mamas. And mine was runaway daughters. And it was with Paul Rudd. And I was like, I don't know if anyone's going to see this, but this is awesome. And this guy's fantastic. But it was sort of got the ball rolling, definitely. And then I did bits. I did a few. I did an arc on ER and you just keep going like that. And then finally, I got a bunch of series that nobody ever saw. But I worked

really steadily. Happy Gilmore was probably my first big, quote unquote, break. Do you know what it's like seeing Happy Gilmore, Julian Happy Gilmore back in the day as a young man learn? Oh, it was boner. I can't hear that. And my kids won't watch it. And I'm glad. I think I'm glad.

I'm glad. Yeah, it might be weird for your sons to watch it. My son. It was like a PG-13 flick. I remember. I think we watched Happy Gilmore together. my son's it was it was there it's not it was like a p it's a pg-13 flick i remember i think i we watched happy gilmore together so you essentially were cheating on me at 13 with my eyes in your head the first time i i think we were about 13 years old no what what year did happy gilmore

come out do you remember 95 maybe no no 90 maybe, somewhere in there. No, no, Happy Gilmore was like, we were, because I was born in 87. So, but like, but we would watch it later. You people are children. You're children. We are? Yeah, you're little babies.

It's great. So when you got Happy Gilmore, did you know it was going to be such a hit? Or did that happen slow? No, not at all. I loved Adam because I love, I have always been a diehard Saturday Night Live fanatic. I watch it all the time, always.

Through the good years, the bad years, cast changes. I am like, I mean, my friends call me a chuckle fucker. I don't really date comedians, but I just love them. I think they're the smartest, funniest people. A chuckle fucker. You've never heard that term? No, I love that. I said chuckle fucker.

Junkies for comedians.. A chuckle fucker. You've never heard that term? No, I love that. It's a chuckle fucker. Junkies for comedians. Okay. Chuckle fuckers. If that movie's on right now, you still will watch it. It's a classic. So I'm told, I can't really see it that way. And I loved Adam, but he had done Billy Madison, which was at the time a little bit of a sleeper hit.

People knew it, but you had to be like an Adam Sandler fan. Over time, that got to be huge. And I thought, well, no one's going to see this. And that's fine because my hair's really bad. And I would go to my trailer and be really sad about my hair. But I was having so much fun. I was like, who cares? This is the greatest thing ever. Adam's the nicest, coolest person. And I was having the best time. And then it came out and I'm like, oh, my hair. hair really should have done something about my hair. Your hair. I feel like I all I can imagine is like how hot you looked in that white suit. Oh, in the white. Yeah. My

lingerie with two. It was the two pitchers of beer, I think, that gave him a boner. Who is the most fun on that set? I feel like you're going to say Shooter McGavin. I mean, yes, Chris is very, very, very fun. But I mean, the whole set made me laugh so hard. I'm trying to remember Alan Covert, who was the bearded caddy who is now one of Adam's producers. I mean, the Adam world goes on forever. He just takes them with him. And he's hilarious. Come on. And he would have all of his friends from like, I don't even know where they were from, high school or New Hampshire or whatever. It was a constant party on that set. What seems so fun to me is I love when it's me and all the guys. Yes. And I feel like that was you on that set. It was like you and all the guys. So there was

no drama, I would assume. It's just like fun. It was so fun. fun i really really um coming from a family of all girls and going to all girls schools until 10th grade and i was so happy to get to i went to boarding school in 10th grade i was thrilled that i finally had boys in my class because i was like oh those are my people now i get it because i was always i don't think we're allowed to say tomboy anymore i don't know why but i can't keep track. Someone should make a dictionary. I'm not sure why. My apologies if I'm offending someone named Tom.

I don't know who it's offending. I get it. But I was always more comfortable hanging out with boys. I didn't know any and I didn't know that until I met them. And I was like, yes! Did they all want to hook up with you? No! No, I don't know that until I met them. And I was like, yes. Did they all want to hook up with you? No. No, I don't believe you.

I'm going to get Adam Sandler on the podcast and ask him that question. No, no, no, no. He had a, I think he had a girl, I don't remember. No, they were all like, they were like my boys. Wow, I thought you were going to say, yeah, they all wanted to hook up. No, no, no.

No, but I imagine it's like, Lauren hangs out with a lot of my guy friends. Like, she's great friends with all of them. And I feel like it's like when you're kind of like a girl like that that hangs with the boys,

you know, you're just kind of like in with the guys. You don't think your friends want to fuck me? I hope not. Maybe. I think she's upset. Kind of.

She's a little bit upset. I mean, listen, they're all a bunch of dogs, so I'm sure it's an option. Maybe, but, you know. So when that comes out and it becomes what it is, were you shocked? Yes, very shocked.

But I was also working off, working on something else. And it didn't, it was kind of a slow roll too. That movie like gets, every generation seems to discover it all over again. Like all my kids' friends were like, oh oh my god your mom was in happy kilmore and my kids are like we don't want to know oh that's got to be kind of weird we don't want to know they all like you they're all like let me see your mom let me take a peek yeah well i mean come over for dinner it's usually like modern family but then they but then every generation finds there that happy come we're all over again so when was the first moment that you knew that it was like as big as what it is?

Oh, Lord. I have. I think when my dad said that his friends were watching it and I was like, huh? That's good. My dad's really into golf. And he also is really into give me a hard time, you know, in a loving way. But he's like, you finally made something I can watch. And I was like, Dad, I'm in lingerie carrying two pitchers of beer. I don't know if that's the thing with it.

He's like, ah, who cares about that? It's about golf. He loved it. So I think that was a bigger, bigger deal for me than anything else. And what was your next big moment after that? I did a TV show called Ed for four years in New York. Yeah. That again, I'm excellent at not watching anything that I do. And I'm excellent at not watching anything that I do and I'm excellent at leaving it like at the door like I do my work I go home it's like I do a play every day it's kind of like you come with your briefcase and leave with it exactly not like watching yourself or you just it's just one of those things where it's like when it's done it's on to the next I don't love watching myself but more than that like the memory of that day was

so great like but you know whatever we were doing in the bowling alley with tom cavanaugh or with the day we we were like riding camels or whatever and i'm like if i see it and it doesn't look like my memory did you guys film your your wedding yeah i know what you did because you're millennials i know what you say i know what you're saying you're saying you you don't want the the visual on the screen to ruin the memory there are times when you're doing something super technical usually with comedy it's not so technical but I just got done doing um kind of a horror genre show where it was super technical and I'm actually excited to see that because it was so about effects and technique

and like how how the stunt was getting done that it doesn't feel as much like my memory of it was so about effects and technique and like how how the stunt was getting done that it doesn't feel as much like my memory of it was I was like flying across a green screen so I can't wait to kind of see that okay so so sometimes sometimes I don't mind seeing myself at what point in all of your career did you decide to have kids and just for selfishly, I want to know how you balanced all that because it's a lot of work. There is no balance. Yeah. This is my patented TM, Julie Bowen advice for married people.

Marriage is compromise. Children are surrender. And if you don't both surrender, it's going to get ugly. Like your pretty house and like your coffee table that has gorgeous tablescapes and dangerous sharp objects. It's done. They don't care. They ruin you.

They come in and they just take it down. Lauren decided to furnish our whole place in kind of like this off-white color everything. Right before the baby came. You know what, though? I feel like... We have spent more on cleanings than all of the furniture. They're a little scared. On the dogs.

I'm scared, too, but it's... But I do have to surrender. You also have three boys. I have three boys. And you have twin boys. Yes. So this is like, you're like... But, yeah, with one kid, you still, like, sometimes think you can control it, which is the danger.

Because you're like, I can control this. I can I can chart, which I did. I can chart your sleep schedule and like graph it to discover the ultimate, ultimate, optimal moments to put you to bed for a nap. The ultimate. I made that word up. That's a new TM for me. My ultimate moment for you to nap is going to be not at like, it's not at 3.05. It's 3.10 PM nap time. I was so obsessive. And then the twins came along and they really broke me, broke me in two. Why? Well, because you cannot control three children under in diapers. Like somebody's going to be sick. Somebody doesn't want to take a nap. Somebody's crying. You've got it. Like you have to surrender to the chaos a little so how did you balance I know you don't like that word but how did you juggle your huge career and being a mom of three boys two are twins like I don't what is that like when you look back were you just in it you're so in it and your head doesn't come up I was pregnant on with the twins on the pilot of Modern Family.

Okay. I was eight months pregnant with them. And so behind, I was like, every, anytime they show Claire Dunphy, I'm like behind the kitchen.

Oh, so you're one of those women that don't get puffy in the face. Oh, no. My face is so pregnant. When you look at it and not, maybe you'll be like, okay, yep.

Really? Yeah. My face was very pregnant. My eyebrows were pregnant. My hair was pregnant, but that was good because your hair gets nice and thick. So they, I know be like, okay, yep. Really? Yeah, my face was very pregnant. My eyebrows were pregnant. My hair was pregnant, but that was good because your hair gets nice and thick. So they, I know that's- That was nice.

So they just hid you. They hid me. I was always folding laundry or carrying things. But if you know to look for it, I'm clearly pregnant. And so I, people often ask like, oh, did your life change before and after Modern Family? I'm like, yeah, I had three kids under two. At the same day Modern Family was picked up, I was in labor with the twins.

So I was like, my whole life changed because two people came out of me at the same time, and it was total chaos. So I don't really remember a lot of the first year. The cast was like, remember? And then we went to that party. It was so fun. And Julie, where were you? And I'm like, I don't know remember a lot of the first year. The cast was like, remember? And then we went to that party. It was so fun. And Julie, where were you? And I'm like, I don't know.

Was I there? I have no idea. And when you got Modern Family, did you realize with Happy Gilmore, like, did you realize it was going to be so iconic? I knew it was going to be successful. I'd done it. At that point, I'd been around long enough to go, oh, I want this. This is a good job.

Yeah, it's a good cast. This is, I met the oh, I want this. This is a good job. Yeah, it's a good cast. This is I met the people. I met everybody. I was scared to meet Sophia because she looks the way she looks. So I thought she was going to be. I was like, what if she's awful? Come on. Yeah, but you're absolutely beautiful, too. But I met her and she was the coolest, most down to earth, funniest person I never met. I was like, oh, my God, that's the one I was scared of. And she's amazing. And also, I feel like the husband.

Why can't I think of his name? His name is Phil Dunphy. No, his name is Ty Burrell. I know. But there's also the other name from Married with Children. What's his name? Oh, Al Bundy. That's what I thought.

In my head, I thought Al Bundy. Ed O'Neill. Ed O'Neill. I grew up watching Married with Children. That was like. You would be scared of him. Is he nice? Yeah. He's. There's him. Is he nice? Yeah.

There's literally nothing bad to say about our cast. I think we give the worst interviews about each other because we're like, they're amazing. I like that, though. It feels like a family in real life. We got along from day one. We did a project here with Sarah Hyland, and she was great. She's the best. She voiced a character for a show we called Bone Mary Berry, which was a comedy show, but she did it.

She was rad. Bone Mary Berry. You mean Fuck, Marry, Kill? It was basically a play on that. Trademark. There was a trademark issue with Fuck, Marry, Kill. Somebody trademarked? Yes.

So it is called Bone Mary Berry. Who trademarked it? I don't know. Remember when Paris Hilton wanted to trademark That's Hot? I think she did. I don't think it's possible. Well, I know there was some kind of There was some kind of issue

where somebody has that thing, I believe. I mean, I know that Tyra Banks was able to trademark Smize. Oh, that's she should start a brand. I'm sure she does or has. I just always found that fascinating. Is Modern Family when it launched before or after social media? Oh, it was, okay, so fun. Here's fun. My, my first son was born in 2007 in April and two weeks later

the iPhone came out. Okay. I remember it well because my husband at the time was like, I'm just going to go pick up some more stuff for the baby. And he was trying to find an Apple store that didn't have a too long of a line. And it didn't yet have all the bells and whistles. There wasn't even a camera on it yet. And by the time we got to 2009, he had a camera on the phone, but not social media. So how was it different having a show like Happy gilmore that has no social media that blew up for modern family that does have social media well it's really interesting because some of us did not jump on board social media some of us did it like oh this looks like it's fun right like i would dip in and out and then i'd like let an account go dormant or something then you find out

no usually you're not going to get endorsements unless you have a million people following you or something and I was like huh? But then you get the Ty Burrells of the world one of the most talented

kind people I've ever met zero social media people none not an Instagram not as far as I know not a Finsta or a Sinsta nothing.

I like that though. I like that, though. I love that. I love it, too. My dream is now one day to just ride off into a hillside somewhere and never be heard from again or seen from. I just think it's the coolest thing ever. Yeah, especially now because everyone has it. Because, yeah. And, you know, people may, other people, I would never say it, that he, oh, he probably misses out on some big endorsements and stuff. I go, I think he's fine.

Yeah, I don't think it matters. I think's fine how many seasons did this did it go now officially 11 that's a long time yes and how many years in total is that 11 years in total 11 years in total that's 11 years you literally saw everyone grow up there too yeah literally and my children literally like thought that i had a normal job where i went to work every morning in you know century city Century City and came home every night. And then after that, I started going away to do jobs. They're like, what? I thought you just like went down the street and it was all chill. How did you manage that? I freak out when I have to leave my kids for too long. It's really hard. I made him bring the kids this trip. What did you do? Do you bring them on set do you leave them what's the what's the secret modern family was so lucky we shot crazy fast we were often out by sometimes we're done by lunch

i'm not kidding you oh that's 6 a.m and we've done it like 1 p.m that's amazing sometimes we'd have a big long long 12 hour day but nothing like most shows so i was there and I got to see them all the time. I had to pick them up from school most days. And she's like, just, you're just taking pictures. It's Instagram story. She's going to see talking about,

do you know what? Oh my God. Do you know what Lauren? I think it's, this, it distracts me sometimes when you do that too. She looks so cute. And then I just need a day in the life clip for Tik TOK.

Go ahead. And then see, it's nothing. Nothing's not content. Yeah, but listen, imagine in my life, I can't even turn around. The reason I started talking on this mic on this show is because she was blasting me out of it

and I needed to make sure I could answer for it because it was like, there's just too much out there. So I got to see my kids all the time and then I turned down a lot of jobs that were out of town. Like in the summer, I would go do a movie and I was like, I'm not doing that. You were meticulous about what you did so it didn't affect the family too much.

Yeah, absolutely. I did. I took a job once in Nova Scotia, not really looking at a map. And my husband at the time was going to be in Long Island. I'm like, close. Right. That's not. Also, where's where's the airport in Long Island?

You got to go back to the city, Nova Scotia. I don't even know where the airport was. I can't even tell you. It was such a complicated trains, planes and automobiles to see these kids. But I made him stay on the East Coast so I could see them. I don't blame you. And I think when you do things like what you just said, it teaches you to be even more thoughtful about what you're doing and funnel it even more.

Yeah. Yeah. You pay attention while you're there. You have to be even more thoughtful about what you're doing and funnel it even more. Yeah. Yeah. You pay attention while you're there. You have to be there. Yeah. And that's and there's always feelings of like, what did I miss? Right. But at the same time, I mean, everyone say, oh, enjoy these years.

They go so fast. I was like, get fucked. It is. Days are long and the years are short. But the days are long. We're in it. We have a. How old are they?

Four year olds and a two year old. Yeah. Those are long. Those days are long. But the years all of a sudden I'm like, hey, why don't you guys want to talk to me? I know it's so hard. When does that start happening? Well, actually, that's why I made the product that I made.

J.B. Scrub is they they I think it's like around puberty-ish, but it's like a little bit before that. Like one day they're like, mom, you have to come wipe my butt. Like literally. And the next day they've locked the bathroom door and you're like, it's like around 10 or something. I can take my own shower. I'm like, can you? Wait, that's so weird that they lock the door.

If my daughter locked the door, I would be like... I don't know anything about girls. I would start spiraling. Oh my God, I didn't even think about stuff like that. Do you have a girl and a boy? Older girl, younger boy. Younger boy. I mean, they're very different creatures from what I hear.

I mean, our daughter's very dainty, but I've never seen the boy just crashing into stuff and breaking stuff and banging his head into everything. How do you think three are? I know, you know. Well, just trust that when they get to that age, your daughter will have

like a 12-step Korean skincare routine that you will be like, how do you know how to do that? She'll be demanding drunk elephant and your boy

will be maybe pouring some conditioner on his head and walking out of the shower without rinsing it off and you're like, you smell and you're disgusting.

I don't know. Michael Bostic's hair routine is a Korean 10 step. Is it? Yeah, he has a Korean 10 step. It's just a slick back and a hit of the comb. The specific brush. It's a whole thing. It's like, it's really, it's a lot.

This is what this says on the sheet, that Sarah Hyland gives you credit for saving her life after a violent relationship. Oh, that's very sweet of her. You were like it sounds like a mother to her. I was a responsible adult that happened to be around at the right time. But I would I mean, I'm sure another responsible adult would have done the exact same thing. I just love her. So she's a she. Do you look at her like maternally oh of course yeah of i mean i look at her and ariel and nolan and well

rika was always like an adult a tiny adult but yeah no i look at them all like my kids so can you just text them or call them anytime yeah oh absolutely you guys are like a real family well i was thinking it's weird because you saw them grow I mean how old were they when the youngest ones

they were 11 Nolan Nolan, Rico, Ariel were all 11 Sarah was actually just 18 and but she looked like

she was 13 she's so petite adorable sorry my salad I'm burping up my salad I'm just gonna say it it's okay I wanna know what kind of salad it was it was just the salad I'm just going to say it it's okay I want to know

what kind of salad it was it was just the salad that I make at home every single day you're going to have to tell us what that is I don't want to know the salad

that's what happens on those things are you fucking kidding that's what happens they want to know the salad they'll be mad at us if we don't ask you

what exactly here's my salad it's the same damn thing every day it is baby spinach baby arugula tomatoes avocados

a little bit of chicken okay not much and then here's the key because that all of that is just making way for french poodle which is the dressing which we get shipped to my house in cases and it's french poodle it's a it's a restaurant maybe or was once up in fancylandia where's like french laundry and stuff up there i don't know but i'm ordering it right away it's it is i would i would put it on a on a doorknob and eat it it's just delicious like olive oil lemon and garlic it's a yeah it's a vinaigrette that is really flavorful and makes everything delicious put on chicken vegetables anything and you eat the salad every single day?

Every single day. What are you talking about every single day? She eats it every day? Yeah, but I never change it either. I'm like that too. I like the same thing every day. I eat a bowl of meat. Like a big bowl of meat. Can you say that this is real? The words that she said. Every day. Is it cooked meat?

Yeah, it's cooked meat. It's ground beef. Every day. Do you know that I grew up eating raw meat? Go off on that. I love raw meat. that she said every day is it cooked meat no it's yeah it's cooked it's ground beef every day do you know that i grew up eating raw meat let's go off on that i love raw meat what's better my mom grew up in the midwest in the i don't know in the 50s and 60s and she we would be making hamburgers in baltimore in the 70s and 80s and she was like take a little pinch pour some salt on there and pop it in her mouth and i was like, what are you doing? She's like, try it. It's good.

Oh my God. To this day and I stopped eating meat years and years and years ago and not for moral reasons. I went to boarding school. The meat was bad. I said,

you never make me eat meat again. But that's the one thing I miss. Is a little bit of raw. Hamburger meat with salt and pepper on it. Oh, TikTok oh I love that that's gonna be the one you're gonna go on social and that's what's gonna go that it's terrible for you and I remember as a kid I was like I'm not sure we can but my mom was like you know she

wasn't a bad mom at all but she was like pork is the bad one that's trichinosis beef is fine yeah if you get a good clean clean, quality source of beef, like, it's actually pretty good for you. I don't know what we were getting from the AMP was necessarily what you're talking about.

But I mean... Was it grass-fed, grass-finished, 100% organic? No. But, you know, the meat supplies since then have been altered a lot.

Even worse and worse, yes. But I have to say, shout out to Susie. She was a great mom, is a high mom. She was not trying to kill us. Yeah, I love it. I'm going to do that to Zaza. Okay, a great mom, is a high mom. She was not trying to kill us. Yeah, I love it. I'm going to do that to Zaza. Okay. On your podcast, you talk about quitting.

I did. I quit the podcast. Go off on that. I would love to hear more about that and how you look at quitting. Well, we wanted to do, I did it with this guy named Chad Sanders, who is- When did you do this? Two years ago. Why didn't we talk at the time? Three years ago, two years ago. There was't we talk at the time? Three years ago, two years ago. There was all that COVID stuff

and I don't even know. It's like when I think about, in my mind, I mean, you guys had babies during it, but in my mind, it's like a gray veil over those years.

I'm like, what happened? We got through it. That's what we did. But I was not able to do a lot of other work at the time and I didn't know that, you know, because nothing was filming. And then I had no idea that podcasting was like full time business.

Yeah. It's full time. Yeah. And Chad's also a writer. And at a certain point, I was just like, I'm going back to work. I was going to work on a show. And so we just said we're quitting. And that our show was about quitting. So why not quitting things that hold you back? I agree. It's like quitting things that don't serve you to make room for other opportunities that are positive. I have a friend who says that he never felt, he never feels, he always feels better after crying, throwing up or quitting a job. Wow. That's a good one. I know. And I was like, wow, that is specific. But that's true. Like, I mean, obviously a job that you needed to quit. But a lot of people, you know, you get into a rut or routine or you feel obligations.

And by the way, sometimes you can't quit stuff. Right. You know, you get mouths to feed. We're not the luxury of just walking away. But during COVID, especially, tons of people walked away from their jobs and said, I'm not doing this anymore. And many have not returned. So I thought that was a fascinating topic. I have spent a lot of time making my home non-toxic, and I've really become a practitioner. I've learned a lot along the way. It's taken like two years. And one area that I'm really focused on right now is my garden and my lawn. You would be shocked to hear about the American

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running around chatting with everyone have the best day they put you in these little like tents between scenes and you're all alone and you want to go drink water you go into like a like a phone booth pull your mask down drink i mean i was like this is sad and this is making me sad so i did a couple jobs during covid that's what was weird about you know obviously we're in the podcast world but and i think it was like a real moment because you could do a lot of these during that yes you know and you couldn't do kind of in the entertainment world you couldn't really do anything else right right there was nothing there was i mean you could but it was really it was really depressing because i realized how much being on a set i love a set

i love it i love the grips i love the electric i love the camera guys like the writers i like the whole thing and then i go home and i feel like my social battery is completely full and i don't need to go out at night but then go you know going at COVID and being between they go take you back to your tent and sit there. And I was like, oh, this is awful. I totally understand. I get my social from the podcast. And then you go home and you're like, you're good. You don't feel a need to talk and talk and talk.

Right. I used to be a bartender and it was the same. It's like bartending actually is like podcasting and is probably I would assume you get your you're good. Yes. You're good. You're good. You get filled up. What did you do like podcasting and is probably, I would assume, you're good. Yes. You're good. You get filled up. What did you do before podcasting? Nothing to do with anything in media.

I was in commerce space and had an ad agency. And jet bed. Yeah, manufacturing business. I was all over the place. And is that hockey on your arm or is that a hatchet? No, these are hatchets. Oh, they're hatchets. Okay.

I didn't know that was a hatchet. What's on your leg? I did used to play hockey. What's on your leg? Wait, she didn't know? Your wife does not know that you have hatchets on your leg? I did used to play hockey What's on your leg? Wait she didn't know Your wife does not know That you have hatchets On your arms

I thought it was an axe To be honest I don't think she knows What hatchet means I think she just calls them Axes My wife is amazing In a million things

But I noticed that Like for certain things Like if it's an axe It's an axe And it's not a hatchet Does that make sense? I do I do because I honestly

Just took a stab with hatchet I could have said axe In my mind it's an axe and it's not a hatchet. Does that make sense? I do. I do because I honestly just took a stab with hatchet. I could have said axe. In my mind, it's 50-50. I'm not going to pretend that I know better. These are called like being 25 and, you know, you're going to be... Drunk? No, not drunk. Maybe.

Actually, maybe. You never know. Yeah, these are things that my mother cried about. Yeah, his mother cried. My children all told me that when they're 18, they're going to get tattoos. And I've decided to lean in. by the way, that I'm trying this. Instead of being like, no, the fuck you are, which is my gut reaction to almost everything. Like, I'm going to get a Lamborghini and I'm just going to like ride around listening to the loud music and get tattoos.

I'm just like, that is a great idea. Tell me what tattoo you're going to get. That's a really smart tactic. You know what? And then go pass the's a really smart tactic that you know what and then go pass the ketchup and change the subject like you don't care because they want the reaction well i also really want to hear what tattoo they think is so amazing because all i do is like all i have to do is pick up like a drawing that i have framed from third grade and they're like mom put that away go why you're telling me you're not going to always love something yeah forever

and ever always what if this was on your body i have a good one for tattoos tattoos when you have them in 20 years are going to make you look older because it was a moment in time where they were popular and trends subconsciously make you look older if you copy them does that make sense like the bolt-on pamela anderson. We all know how old everyone is. Yep. Or the tramp stamp. Yes, the French manicure, the specific one from the 80s.

You should see my tramp stamp. My tramp stamp. Do you have a tramp stamp? I'd be so impressed. I saw a dude the other day, and I don't remember where I was, who had a, and he was gotta be in his 70s,

with like a lower back tramp stamp. I'm like. Living his life. I want to know more. Send that to your son. Send the picture to your son. Yeah, you know, I don't regret any of my tattoos.

I waited until I was 25, but there is moments where like, oh, it's kind of aggressive and you're going to look at yourself. Well, you made sure, I mean, there's not on the neck

or the face. He has a coffin on his leg. But what kind of music were you into when you were doing this? Metal? I have like the Misfits thing. It's got to be metal. How do you know that? Because who wants someone with a coffin on his leg. What kind of music were you into when you were doing this? Metal? I have like the Misfits thing on it.

How do you know that? Because who else would want a coffin on their leg? Metal and I do have a tattoo that says heavy metal above my ankle.

You know, we can talk about every tattoo. I can't. Yeah, don't. It's just so on the nose. It's not even like, you know,

Danzig or Mulder or something. It's like heavy metal. Should have got my name, bitch, because I'm still here. Actually, the funny thing is, the heavy metal one on my ankle, that was a drunk tattoo. But, you know, I've grown. This has been a couple decades now. Do you still love metal?

I do. All right. You'll like the show, actually, that I just did then. What is it? It's called Hysteria. It's about satanic panic in the 80s. That, wait,

I've heard of that. Has it come out yet? Yeah, it's coming out in October, I think. We just finished it. I have no idea when,

I think it's coming out in October. That sounds good. Well, Julie, I was a fan before, but I have a weird thing where now if I meet people,

like, okay, so if someone comes on and they've been on a reality TV show, I'm typically not watching, but if I meet them, now I'm like, now I'm in. Now I'm in. Anything you do, I'm in. someone comes on and they've been on a reality TV show, I'm typically not watching. But if I meet them, now I'm like, now I'm in.

Now I gotta go watch. Now I'm in. Like, anything you do, I'm in. You gotta watch. And I'm gonna go around and be like, listen, Julie's my friend

and she told me to watch this and that's how I roll. I know nothing about metal. Nothing at all. But I know that this show is about metal. My character doesn't have anything to do with the metal.

I'm the mom that's like, what the hell? Everyone's gonna be possessed by the devil. You never had like a Guns N' Roses moment I could feel like that type of metal maybe you might like

really you think that's metal I thought that was like hair metal that's like hair metal so listen that's like the fringe Taylor's in there

having a heart attack cause he like really likes metal but like I feel like what's Taylor's jam is it like Danzig though Pornhub and metal Pornhub

Taylor you're getting oh that's not good Pornhub and metal. Pornhub? Taylor, you're getting... Oh, that's not good. Pornhub. His phone's broken because it's too wet from Austin. But I feel like that hair metal Guns N' Roses fringe might have drawn you in in the 80s. No? I could see you having an 80s hair metal moment.

A little, but I was like... I was more... I went to boarding school where time has stopped. And everybody still listens to The Grateful Dead and Crosby, Stills, and Nash. went to boarding school where time has stopped and like all and everybody still listen to like the Grateful Dead and Crosby, Stills and Nash. Usually the boarding school girls are the ones. How do you know about the boarding school girls? I know a lot of things. This is something that our audience asked you specifically. What is your advice to someone who's unhappy in a situation and are thinking about transitioning or quitting?

It depends. Is it a romantic situation? I was just listening to Esther Perel, who's like, you can be closer after an affair. People can always get closer. And I was like, I'm divorced. And I'm like, don't say that. I kind of want to hear that. Sometimes, I mean, I'm great friends with my ex. I had nothing bad to say about him We just weren't meant to be together so I feel like Take this whoever your listener is take it with a grain of salt but Nobody ever felt worse after throwing up crying or quitting a job or relationship Like sometimes you do just have to walk away. The key is boundaries

The key is a boundary and the one that I found, I have horrible anxiety. So when I've broken up with people in the past or been broken up with or had to leave something, I have to set a boundary where I cannot touch it or communicate with it or see it or taste it, feel it for a certain amount of time. And then I'm allowed to revisit. So like, if it's a person, I'm like, can we make a date to talk in a month? Just so, because otherwise there's things you're like, looking at the phone or you're like, maybe I should text or, you know, doing the going back and forth and that anxiety of needing to sort of touch the connection. Is it still there? Do I still feel it? Do I want it? Do I not want it? And that has always helped me keep that boundary. About a month later, two months later, then there's more reality. And you're like, feel it do I want it do I not want it and that has always helped me keep that boundary about a month later two months later then there's more reality and you're like oh I'm I'm doing much better now that is such good advice that is such good because you do you want to keep diving in and just just seeing and why you change your mind but then if you give yourself time you have more

logic around it yes and also because the minute the person, I'm imagining this is a person, but when they walk out the door, you're like, I've done this. I've broken up with people or had them break up with me. And I'm like, that was the love of my life. And you're like, no, it wasn't. In that moment, everything feels horrific and you want it back. And all you're doing is creating chaos by staying connected, like picking up the phone in the middle of the night. Are you there? I just was wondering, did I leave my hat at your house is taylor swift scarf at your in your drawer you've had some you've had some of those the old leave the item around the house move yeah the old accidentally left the the scarf or the baseball cap accidentally left the scarf is like

a real obvious one i got accused of that once though and it made me so mad my dad told me just let the scarf go it was my underwear and i wanted i didn't even want it no i i was like underwear i'm out and i got the call later cute move and i was like wasn't a move dude not a move just now that we've clarified that now we're cleaning up you also have to block their social media get it out of your ether. Everything has to be blocked. It's just like, no, they can't exist.

You mentioned Esther Perel. I love her too. What are things that you consume in your private life? Like what are you reading? What are you listening to? What are you, are you meditating? I do meditate very poorly. Got one of those things that you put it with someone,

the muse, it's like the band and it tells you, it gives you birds if you're doing it right. I don't know what that is. It's like, it's some meditation thing that's supposed to tell you if you're doing it right. Cause I was getting really into meditating. I'm like, I'm fucking nailing this. So I got this thing and it's like a band that goes around your head and it's sort of like a white noise or, and then when you're really hitting whatever it is that you're supposed to hit in meditation, you get these little birds. That is so cool. And I was like, mine isn't working because I don't hear any birds. My son tried it.

He goes, I have birds. And I'm like, well, give that back to me. It turns out I'm meditating wrong. I don't care because I think it's good for your brain. I listen to, I do listen to a lot of podcasts. I try and stay away from the news, although I'll deep binge on news for a while and then I'm like, no, it's bad for me. It's bad for my head. It's really bad for my head. Especially before you go to sleep. Oh, no, no. Before I go to sleep, it's usually science podcasts. Something kind of boring, kind of engaging, but also might, you can drop off when

they're talking about like finding, although Utsi, Radiolab is one of my all-time favorites. And the story of Utsi, the Iceman that they found frozen in the ice, please do yourself a favor. When you're listening to it, say your friend Julie told you to. It's amazing. And Brad Pitt has a tattoo of Utsi on his arm. Who brought it back together? Now that I know Brad Pitt has a tattoo on his arm. Oh, we gotta listen. Who brought it back together? Well, now that I know Brad Pitt has a tattoo on his arm, now I'm definitely in. Oh, the tattoos are tattooing, aren't they?

Jesus. I'm just telling you, Utsi on Radio Lab. Wait, just really quick, what is Utsi? Brad Pitt's newer to the tattoo game, I feel like. Or has he had them?

Utsi was a man that was found frozen. He's a 4,000-year-old man who was found frozen in the ice because of global warming. And they could track, and by the way, at like the top of a ski run or something. And in I think it was in Italy. It was on the border of two countries.

And they let him slowly thaw. And they had to keep him in an icy place. But they he had wounds on him and he had tattoos as well. It's the 4000 year old man. And they could track the last 24 hours of his life by getting out the contents of his 4,000 year old stomach. And they tell this whole story about what happened in the last 24 hours of his life based on the contents of his stomach and what wasn't digested. And it's a doozy. I almost want to ask you what was in the stomach, but I want to listen.

No, no, no. You got to listen. You got to listen. Let me ask both of you something. If the stomach, but I want to listen. No, no, no, you got to listen. Let me ask both of you something. If I had a tattoo of an Iceman, and people are like, what are you doing? But if Brad Pitt gets a tattoo of an Iceman, are girls like, that's cool because it's Brad Pitt? It's Brad Pitt. He can do whatever he wants. There's just some guys. Taylor,

are you looking into Utsi right now? It's like O-O-T-S-I, I think. Yeah, Taylor, are you looking into Utsi? What are you doing back there? I heard a couple clicks and a squirt. Something's going on. That's the thing, though. There are people that are on the fringe that they're just, if it's a Brad Pitt, you can do whatever you want and it doesn't matter.

Because you're obviously so busy. You've got so much going on. How did you decide you wanted to launch a product line? Were you meditating when you decided? What was the vibe on that? No, we got into the part when my kids were like. Closing the door and coming out dirtier. And I was like, I don't need you in the bathroom.

I'm like, you do. You look and smell horrible. And I would occasionally go stand outside the bathroom and trying to be respectful and not go in. But I'd be like pits, nuts, butts in that order. It doesn't smell that bad. Pits, trust, nuts, butts, in that order. It doesn't smell that bad. Pits, trust, nuts, butts. The feet are the worst at first. That's like the tell.

But it starts before puberty. Like puberty itself, and I should be better about this because I've studied a lot about it, but it starts earlier than, we think puberty, we're like, Are these around like 11? You're thinking of like erections and hair and really puberty.

The hormones for puberty are starting a lot earlier than that. They're creeping in. And cause all of a sudden you'll be like sarcasm. What is this? Um, like closing the bathroom door and I'm like, you don't have any hair. What do you care?

But it starts earlier. And then I was screaming pits, nuts, butts through the door. And my friend was like, it's really gross. And they all want to smell like, they all get the advertising on the social media

about, you know, I won't say the products because I won't. Schmold Weiss. Schmacks. Hatchet. Could be hatchet. All this toxic shit

is thrown at them. and it's all about like getting late i'm like you're 10 and they all want to scare you but it's it's it's coming like no i get it but but i'm also like that's that's the bridge we go from baby products yeah she's right you go you go from like honest or one of these lovely like california babies something great that you're getting at whole foods to whatever's in the shower that is like in a gray bottle and smells like i think like napalm a little maybe or definitely something used to kill bugs or it also is napalm for bugs i think it's not it's for humans right never mind i'd like to take that back we burned a lot of people's old spicy i do not mean to make a napalm is for humans. Right. Never mind. I'd like to take that back. We burned a lot of people's napalm. It's old spicy. I did not mean to make a napalm joke.

It's too strong. It's too strong. It's also filled with chemicals. Yes. Which their little, like their skin is changing. Their skin is like changing and growing and they're like, everything irritates it. So they need something. They need a gateway into learning how to take care of themselves.

It's also, you mentioned a bunch of chemicals. It's disrupting their hormones. It's endocrine disruptors. We had the founder of Branch Basics on this podcast, too. I love her cleaning supply line. Yeah, I love her, too. And what she's done is amazing. And I feel like this is very much in line with it.

It's really being thoughtful about what you're using on your skin at all ages. I love this. Well, it's also when it was COVID. We started the idea before COVID, but during COVID, we were in this pod with my kids and some other kids and all my nephews. I think there's like eight or nine boys altogether, varying from about age nine to maybe 13 or 14. I mean, a ton of them. And we had them test every single thing. We tested all of the, because we do have a natural botanical scent in the body wash, but it's all completely natural. Nothing on the face has any scent in it. Nothing stays on you has any scent in it. And we had them test every single thing. We had them help us with the designs. I mean, we hired design people,

but they were like, they got the final say on everything. So we're like, if you like it, we're making it for you. Nobody makes stuff for those boys. They make video games for them. Literally, I said, what if we put video game characters

on that, on the bottles? They were like, ew. And I'm like, know your audience. Know your audience. I was like, like that's you will sit all day long and watch someone else play a video game on YouTube you're not even playing you're watching somebody else play but if that was on a bottle a product in the shower you would think it was and they're like it's for babies so can Michael taylor use this product too so it's just for it's for men it's for anybody it's just that nobody was nobody is marketing to and selling to these boys and they to take

ownership with with something that's like lavender or pink they're like oh i don't want to i may not all boys but a lot of boys feel that way and then they're like i guess i'm concrete gray and deet is that that's not something to use to kill the bugs i'm looking i'm like get me out of this napalm hole you gotta help me out i'm super worried about the napalm hole i remember i think it's clear at this point that it was uh it was intended not that way i remember i'll get myself a big hole on this i'll take the this much better i remember all my boyfriends you included going to their house and like you would hook up with them and then you would go in their shower and you'd be like literally there's like dove that their mom bought them from rite aid or there was like the dandruff shampoo in the

green bottle that they like i think what we got was like the costco big supply that would just last kirkland it's like the boys aren't gonna they don't care and they and they don't care and they don't need to know but like and they also they also they need like a real real simple keep it really simple our biggest seller is the face pads because the boys use them basically to wash their face because i'm like wash your face like i did i'm like that's not what i meant but it better you know good enough for government work sometimes you just go okay and we may specifically don't make it with salicylic acid which is like what's in like stridex and you know hardcore i mean it's not drying it's much gentler than that so you know you're trying to give them a way in that doesn't feel

like they're just stealing their sister's or mother's stuff and not trying to like use shave oil or beard oil on their face this is so smart because i can imagine being a 11 or 12 year old boy and you can't you don't want to ask your mom to buy it you don't you don't want to steal your sister's stuff because it's pink and floral. I feel like this market is genius. Well, the parents, the moms now have an option to, and the dads have an option

to go get something that they're going to use. And is it on subscription if they want to just subscribe? You can subscribe, but it's on Amazon. It's on our website, jbskrub,

S-K-R-U-B, because guess what? Trademark, everything else was taken. We got everything. There's nothing good left. What was your trademark? Didn't you say you had something trademarked?

No, I don't. No, I said Fuck, Marry, Kill was trademarked. And so we did Bone, Marry, Berry. You better trademark it. I have a trademark now. I got that one. So now nobody can get that one. Bone, Marry, Berry.

At least in the podcast. It actually is a really family-friendly way to play that game. Yeah, it was a... Ish. Yeah. As family-friendly as... People liked it there. I asked you for season two. You know what you should do on was a... Ish. Yeah. As family-friendly as... People liked it there. Asked you for season two.

You know what you should do on Happy Gilmore 2? Yeah, go on. You should bring all your products to all the guys and have all the guys use them the whole time on set. Because it's all boys.

I will definitely make Adam Sandler do what I want him to do. I would be like... Said nobody ever. No. Make Adam Sandler do an ad on set.

I am, I mean, like, I'm a total believer in our product line because literally we made it, like practically from, not like in our kitchen, but went to the lab, did all the testing, did test it on our own kids.

We had some fails, by the way, on my children's skin. I was like, oh, that's bad. What was that? Because we were trying, you know, we were experimenting with different ingredients. They did not make it in. Stay, stay calm.

I did not allow that to stay in. But I'm like, just try it. It's going to sell itself, people. It's good. Like, just do it. And then we find out that all these women are using pads to remove makeup because it's gentle and it's fast.

I need to try this. I know, it's really good. So fast. I need to try this. I know it's really good. So if our audience was to start with one product, there's a lot of mothers who are listening, a lot of millennial women. What would they start with? I mean, the big seller is the body wash in the orange bottle. And we're coming out with the juniors, which is like a travel size soon. That's the best. I mean, that's the easiest gateway one because it smells fantastic, but it's not like a lingering smell because it's not artificial. Really easy. It's in a big, wide pump. Like you're a parent. You're going to appreciate it.

Every single step was thought. It's like the base is super wide. The pump. Oh, my God. My business partner, Jill, she's wonderful. But she was like, did you try the pump? I was up in Canada doing a movie. I'm like, yeah, it's great. up in canada doing a movie i'm like yeah yeah it's great she goes which one and i'm like the blue one and she's like julie try the pumps and like would hang up because she wanted enough to come out in one in in two pumps was the exact amount that that's all you need because if you have a squeeze bottle you know what you can't do squeeze i can't even do it no because then it's like everywhere by the way i still can't do a squeeze bottle and i'm almost 40 years old so like nobody wants to squeeze what happens when you squeeze a bottle i just can't use it in there it's too confusing your shampoo and conditioner needs a makeover it does i don't have a good

shampoo what happens with your hair when it's doing its own thing it just it's not it's not being do you know that someone on tiktok i'm gonna tell you this live called you your hair lego hair fuck that person oh my god that's amazing like those snap on everyone was commenting and saying oh my god it looks like lego hair that's probably some bald motherfucker huh wait well i mean you're there i'm trying to see is it curly no is it straight wait should we use your shampoo and conditioner on his hair the shampoo and conditioner is just coming out you know what though it smells so good no bullshit i was in here the other day and i was like you know say we have the same okay men still have the same problem that your sons have which is

it's an overlooked category with like not a lot of great options. I agree. And so I'm looking now, I'm actually thinking like maybe I got to do something because there's not like a lot of clean options and I want to be able to do my hair, but this product's not great.

I'm buying him the shampoo and conditioner, the one he has. And she doesn't like my shampoo and conditioner. I'm like, I don't. Because it's like gray and it smells. It's literally gray and smells. It smells. I know.

Listen, I'm a grown-ass single woman who's dating and I want to like, I'll go on a date and smell somebody's head and be like, I don't know if this is going to go any further. But you know what? You don't pass Julie's test. I don't.

It's like in high school when the boys would drench themselves in Drakkar Noir or whatever it was. I remember. As long as it's not napalm. And you're like gagging and they think they smell so delicious or when someone gets on the elevator and it's like so you know i don't wear it's like the christmas tree in the christmas tree my son just got his license no filled the car with the black black ice christmas trees

and they disrupt your testosterone is that that a fact? I think so. Do you know what? Good enough. Yeah. I'm telling you. A little lie never hurts. It's good enough. I stopped wearing deodorant a long time ago.

Oh, we're going to go into your body parts? Let's go. And I don't wear cologne. What do you do for your balls? And I wear Henry Rose, actually. It's Michelle Pfeiffer. It came out this week. Henry Rose is...

That's the one. I have to wear that one. What's better? I mean, first of all, you met Michelle Pfeiffer. Tell me everything and talk slow. What do you mean? You probably know. I have met her once

but it's like looking at the sun. I have a problem. I can't meet people that I love. Like, I freak out. Mel Brooks came to our set one day because he was doing something next door

and someone took a picture of me hiding. I'm hiding behind a door. Like, what if I, what do I have to say to Mel Brooks? You've worked with some of the biggest actresses. Working is different. Okay. But like sitting, it's like sitting, having somebody like Michelle Pfeiffer is like,

I met Meryl Streep once and I was like, hey. And like just faded away, like moonwalked out. I just was horrible, horrible. I can't handle it but i feel like you're doing something similar in a different category it's like yes and she sent me some of her her henry rose and i was like you're amazing it's beautiful she's beautiful it smells great i talked to her i was like listen to cat woman thing you know so i get to live a lot of my childhood memories all you do is tell people that like your childhood memories you're on this podcast all you do is tell people that like your childhood memories

he has a lot of childhood memories now I'm just not that special you're special we were very excited to interview you I think you're absolutely amazing but back to what I'm saying is that

there's not like I'm trying to think of what the options are for men even now and there's not a lot of good ones it's a lot of and you don't want to wear something the women

don't like but then they also they haven't nailed and and i think everyone by the way the rock jesus h christmas i can't even look in your hand but i've been married for a long time to him or i've been with him since i was we've been together for 16 years that an upgrade yeah it was an upgrade okay because that's it was an upgrade. It's glass. No, it's a fake diamond. Wait, what's the fake diamond? No, the other one. Moissanite? Yeah, yeah, whatever. Moissanite?

That sounds very dicey. Wait, what's the fake diamond called? There's a fake diamond. A lab-grown diamond. No, I agree, though, because I think that you can get, like, really amazing products for men, but you have to go to, like, Neiman Marcus and spend, like, $50. You're like, I'm never doing that I need something at the drugstore

it's hard for men because you're like you hate the old spice now you hate this the women don't like the scents anymore you're like what do you wear and then you're like

disgusting if you wear something you think they like and so I just don't wear anything anymore I'm like well hopefully you just like my natural your natural

your natural aroma because I don't want to offend her by wearing the wrong product but when you were pregnant were you crazy everything i was like oh this smells i was dying i was like please not that not your deodorant bothers me and he's like my non-deodorant bothers you too he would breathe and it would bother me so it was like let me get out my scroll you know anything get a long eyebrow hair sticking in my face It was like so much Not a lot

Yeah well after I became a dad These eyebrows I don't know what happens To guys with eyebrow hairs You need a Eyebrow hairs and sneezes In your line You need an eyebrow pomade

Eyebrow pomade Yeah Like boy brow Yeah Which I am obsessed with But for boys Oh I love that She used to send me

To her friend Who I love And they would do They would hit my And I just you know I'm like I'm married, got two kids. Like, you're going to have to figure this out. Just trim it down. It's going to, whatever's going to happen.

Just trim it down. You don't want to be like Andy Rooney on 60 Minutes. Pits, balls, and butthole. My hands are a little shaky. You said, what did you say? Pits, balls. Pits. Nuts.

Nuts. Butts. In that order. Pits, nuts, butts. And when they ask you why, you just don't answer. Because what are you gonna well because your butthole's really dirty and you're gonna drag it up to your pit no no no just pits oh you can't you have to do it in that order you start high you end low you guys are so gross the loofahs you

guys have to they the loofah you need to do a loofah line the loofahs yes you guys do and you keep them for 60 years there's a loofah rigamortis on guys do. And you keep them for 60 years. They're moldy. Moldy. Moldy loofah. Rig a mortise on it. It's so gross. You know what? My grandma was a full Japanese woman. She was a full? I don't.

Is that what you meant to say? Yeah, she was fully. I'm a quarter Japanese. You would never know it looking at me. But what I mean to say is that the Japanese are very clean people. Yes, this is true. I'm very clean. I mean, I want to tell you That my whole family

Is German And I don't think I take on a lot Of their characteristics I mentioned this Because Lauren's doing Lauren He thinks he's really clean

Lauren I can't have All these women From all my favorite Movies growing up And you tell them I'm very clean Julie Trust me I bet you're clean

But you know what I don't mind A little natural funk Yeah see there we go On an adult male If it's the right one Yeah But you gotta be like The p't mind a little natural funk. Yeah, see, there we go. On an adult male. If it's the right one. Yeah. But you got to be like, yeah.

The pheromone. The right, yes, exactly. When you're into them, it's magical. And if you're not into them, it's like. Taylor, do not get any ideas. But they say that if you are attracted to someone's natural pheromones, it's a match. And if you're not attracted, then it's like you're just not a match for the person. Yeah, that's why I can't.

I could never go on a date with somebody who smells, who has no, I can't smell them anywhere in there. They don't need to be stinky. And I don't want them to smell like super heavy cologne. I need to get a little, like up near the ears. You know, you're like, are you in there? Because we don't want to be relying on some sort of like. You're like the Goldilocks of scents. That's the perfect one. The porridge has to be just right. Right by the ears.

If you don't like that smell right by the ear, it's not a fit. It's not a fit. You've got to have the right smell. I just broke up a lot of people's relationships. They're like, oh my God. Well, when people are like, if you have to be squeaky clean and covered in a scent in order to be

attractive to your partner? It's a little bit. Let's just think about all the times. Hey, Michael. It's never going to happen. Our friend Chervene would say that if you have to be covered in scent all the time, you're ignoring your body's signals telling you that there's something wrong.

Wow. Well, they should use the unscented cleanser. That's freaking heavy. Yeah. Not to take me to the dark path. I like how you can buy your products too on Amazon because going into the cosmetic store also is overwhelming. It's too overwhelming.

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Like Stephen Colbert. I mean, Stephen Colbert's great. I just wasn't, that's not who I expected you to say right after that. I would die. I mean, I met him one time and I was like, I can die happy now. But like, okay, so there's certain types of people that if you meet, you get starstruck.

I get so starstruck and I generally have to run away. It's so crazy to me with who you've worked with. Yeah. It is kind of crazy. Those people then become, obviously, they become people people. And that's the way it should be. But there's like, I would never want to meet. I never want to meet Brad Pitt.

I never, ever. Because you guys, guys okay you have a following at this point people probably stop you on the street sometimes or say like and throw stuff at me actually and they and they're you're nice to them and it's lovely interchange but they sort of become then that person that you met and they're off and it's not like a real connection and i definitely flatter myself like with people like, oh, young Johnny Depp, not old Johnny Depp. Young Johnny Depp, bless you, Johnny.

But young Johnny Depp was like my dream. And he screwed the Viper Room. Jawline was pretty good on him. And like, I was so sure that he would see me and we would know. We would just know. We would have the magical connection that of course anybody would have.

And that if I met him, though, in any other way that like if I was like, oh, my God, hi, can I get your can I get your picture and your name, your autograph or whatever? Then you're like, you're on the other side. I did end up finally meeting him. And it was when I was on the floor on a set playing a clumsy waitress covered in oyster crackers and none of the crew could remember my name they're like johnny high-fiving and he's so nice he looked up he goes i'm sorry and you are and no one and they were like oh it's a little different than you envisioned it at the viper so different did you smell above his ear i did i was covered in oyster crackers it was the middle of a scene i'm'm professional. I did not get up. I was like, let me die here.

I think that's the last time I was excited to meet somebody like that. And then you realize this is terrible. Yeah. I get what you're saying. Sometimes they say don't meet your idols. Yeah. It's kind of like that. Yeah.

And there is somebody, and I won't say who, who was like a famously sexy hot man who I found myself at a party chatting with. And I was like, oh my God, I walked away. I was like, I can't believe I just talked. That's like one of the all-time sexiest hot men, like for the ages. And the party was sort of a circle room sort of thing. And I'm coming out the other side and I see him and I'm with my friend. And I go, I can't believe I'm going to say this, but let's walk fast. He's a real talker. And I'm coming out the other side and I see him and I'm with my friend I go I can't believe I'm gonna say this but let's walk fast he's a real talker and I'm obsessed with that I mean he's a real talker no don't don't don't no no it's all it's anybody oh no I'm not gonna say

I'm not gonna say you know what though I think when you work with a crew like Happy Gilmore where the guys are just so cool and shooting the shit and having fun. Yeah. And then you get an actor that's a real talker that's a little long in the tooth about how great they look. Oh, OK. Here's what I say. Like they have all the stories. I call it pizza.

I played a pizza because the guys people be like water. One time I was on set and Robert De Niro handed me a bottle of water. You're like, come come on we don't really it's not everything is about some fucking famous thing that you did pizza I played a pizza stop just stop yeah I think like the I could never can you imagine being at dinner with I mean that would be really hard with a really famous actor well and he makes everything about himself I would hate that and you think you're excited about it. And you think you're going to have a great dinner.

And you're just like, when can I excuse myself to the bathroom? It's nauseating. Well, I think it's always refreshing when you meet people in any occupation that are just like people. And they're cool. And they can laugh and just be normal. But anytime, and I'm not just saying actors, but sometimes you meet certain kinds of people. And they're like, they're breathing their own air a little too much and it's like then it makes the allure lost yeah i always think the coolest thing was when you meet someone's like

they know they're very like well accomplished but they're also just rad people yeah the other side you're like oh that's i did have the all-time worst run-in with a celebrity because i worship this person and he did nothing wrong so i will tell tell you who it is. I was doing Ed, like a TV show about a bowling alley lawyer. So much fun. One of my favorite jobs ever, but a serious job that's changing the world. But one that I love very much was having a great time. And I was new to New York and there was some fancy thing at the ballet that after work that day, someone said to dress and said, do you want to go? And I'm like, okay. I don't even like have hair makeup. I just pull on the dress and show up. And there's the celebrity photographer,

Patrick McMillan, who was always sort of like, he was in the inside of the parties. He wasn't like a paparazzi outside. And I walk in and I was like, oh, this is pretty fancy. I should have maybe spruced myself up a little. And also, I don't know anybody.

And Patrick comes over and he's just everybody's host. And he's like, Julie, fancy i should have maybe spruced myself up a little and also i don't know anybody and patrick comes over and he's just everybody's host and he's like julie you look wonderful i have someone for you to meet david iman david bowie and iman well have you seen ed and i'm like kill me tell me now david bowie's definitely doesn't even know what a television is. He's from Mars. And he's like one of the greatest artists that ever lived. And I'm standing there with like burning cheeks going like, please don't look at me. Please don't look at me.

And I remember him forcing me together in a picture with Iman, who's like seven feet of gorgeous. And it was on page six the next day. And I remember thinking, oh, it's all fake. Like there we are. We're saying like, we've got, we're like, like we're best buddies. And I realized in that moment, I was like, oh, every, every, this whole business, they, she wasn't fake and David Bowie wasn't fake, but the idea that famous people hang out with each other and are having a great time. I was like, no, it sounds like Instagram. Here we are. is there you go it's instagram there you go you summed it all up in one in one that was a refreshing story oh i was dying i will never forget it when he passed i mean i sobbed like did you have you ever met him and i was like

we're good friends actually and it's not a good story it's gonna be honestly like after this i'm gonna like be hanging out my family and i'm gonna see you on something like yeah that's there's my friend julie there's a friend julie she once had david going to freak out about julie she is yeah yeah um can you tell us because this won't be out until after about happy gilmore too tell us all the things what do you think's gonna happen what are What are your predictions? Well, I saw Adam at some, he got the Mark Twain prize, I think, during the time of Great Darkness, during the gray, like, COVID-y years. So I don't know when exactly. Low vibrations. Yep, very low vibrations.

And he mentioned it to me there. He's like, you know, we're talking about doing a Happy Gilmore 2. And I was like, and I said, oh, fun. And he's like, you have to be. And I go, as who? I just thought it would be like as your love interest mom or like as a old auntie. And he goes, as Virginia Bennett. And I was like, my regular character?

But like, you got to date somebody really young, right? He was like, you're an idiot. So I have no idea. The short answer is I have no idea what's going to happen in this. You have to go back in the lingerie. You have to go back in the white. This is my pitch. You have to go back into it.

You look amazing. You have to be. We all need to see that. It's inspirational for women. You have to do it. And it's like owning it. I mean, if it's in the script, I'll do it. You'll do it.

Got it. Headline here. Do it. Of course. And plus, also, I feel like we've come a long way in the hair makeup world, and I think I could really knock it out of the park this time. I also think, like, 60 is the new 40.

50 is the new 20. 50 is the new 20? 50 is the new 20. 50, it's getting further apart. And 70 is the new 10. I'm waiting. If I just hold on a little bit longer, I think AI and robot parts,

I could just be half biotic. Being old isn't as bad as you think it is. I don't think it's that bad. I'm actually liking it, getting older. You're not think it's that bad. I'm actually liking it. You're not that you're not even 40, but I'm liking getting old. I like actually as a guy getting old, it's easier.

I don't, I didn't like the, as much the younger, as much as I like the older is what I'm saying. Well, cause dudes get more power when they get older. Women get less. As soon as you,

as soon as you send out the signal, it's like, I am no longer creating life in me. Like you send out those pheromones or whatever it is. And like you don't look like someone can fuck you and make a baby. Nature says we're done with you. Really? I've never heard it like that.

When you stop being able to make a baby, that's when you think the transition is. Well, I think it's somewhere. I think a lot of women, sadly, I mean, the reality is life is life is long and hard. And when you're the sole caretaker for babies and stuff, you're exhausted. Maybe you're not in great shape, whatever. So people think that they're not as attractive after they have children. I don't think that has to be the case at all. But I do think that there's a point when you're just like, yeah, I'm not making babies anymore, even if it's your choice. Uh huh. And it's not like menopause. It's like, I'm not making babies anymore. Even if it's your choice. Uh-huh. And it's not like menopause.

It's like, I'm not making babies. I'm done with that. That people are like, what are you doing here? I'm going to be 70 in my wheelchair. Making babies?

I'm going to be like, I'm still making babies. I'm making babies, guys. Yeah, I'm going to... I'm making babies. By the time you're 70, they probably will have a cure for all of those things

and people will have babies in like this water bottle. And then I'll have a half robot penis and we'll be good to go. And everybody will be fine. Everybody will be fine. Do you think that

that's a good idea? A robot penis? I don't know if it's a good idea. It depends who you are. I don't know if it's a good idea, but I know if it exists, humans will do it. You know what though?

I got shock therapy on my foot because I have the very exciting plantar fasciitis. So do I. The worst. Have you had shockwave therapy? No. Does it work?

It's amazing. Okay. It's incredible. Hurts and it's loud. It's like a hammer hitting like this, but each time it hits, it's sending some electricity into your foot. Cool. And it is painful, but in a good way. And I'm getting this, and I asked the doctor the other day,

I go, what else do they use this for? And he said, erectile dysfunction. Oh God, that sounds terrible. People do this to their penis, like,

with electricity shooting out of it. I was like, that's, we had a guy on the podcast that told us, didn't Brian Johnson do that? Didn't he tell us he did that? He did shockwave therapy

for his penis. Taylor, didn't he say he did it? He said he was doing something. I feel like he said he measured his erections when he was sleeping. No, no, but he did some kind of therapy on his penis didn't he say he did it he said he was doing something he measured his erections when he was sleeping no no but he did some kind of therapy on when he was sleeping that's very difficult to do a sign of youth is how many erections you get when you're sleeping that's like a real sign of youth yes you the health vibrancy yeah is how many erections you

get and then after the podcast i had to hear about every erection he had when he was sleeping i was like but how do you know if you're having an erection if you're sleeping? Oh, he was. I don't know what you were doing. No, no, no, no. I would. Do you put a piece of a thin piece of string around your penis so that it snaps? He had to wake up.

No. Yeah, he does do that. So, OK, listen, I'm going to give you a rabbit hole to go down. We just had him on the show. Brian, fascinating guy. But he has he is the now the most studied human being. want to give you a rabbit hole to go down we just had him on the show brian um fascinating guy but he has he is the now the most studied human being and he has a team of scientists that observe he's that guy yeah i know who this guy is yeah so he has it's not a string but it's like a string around

his dick it's like it measures at night but he was saying is and it actually makes sense to me that the more time that you have an erection in the night as a man is a signify it signifies how healthy you are okay so then for the next 12 mornings you had to wake up to show me you had an erection so i would be like wow he's so youthful and radiant he was saying erections during the night like each night you should be having multiple erections like while you're sleeping you don't even know so how do you even know i didn't measure those i didn't i don't know but i was just saying If I were Julie we just This is a lot of information I just don't even understand

How you would know How I feel like there's a There's a sweet spot Like where you're not You don't actually Want to wake up like Listen

Like with a hard on I don't get very squeamish A lot on this show But this is weird Is this making you squeamish? It's making you squeamish That you woke me up For 12 days in a row.

And I tape my mouth shut in the middle of the night. I'm sorry, what's happening in this marriage? Listen. I tape my mouth shut so I can practice nasal breathing. And so when he wakes up to show me this erection every morning, I can't talk. Well, I wake up, I wonder maybe something might happen if I show. And then I also am saying, also, I'm healthy. I'm not over the hump.

You know what? Who knew? The 12-year-old version knew that you would be talking to your happy Gilmore crush about your erections. Your wife, like. I had it. I manifested this. So, wait a second.

If, let's just say in the middle of the night, you actually wanted to utilize the erection for the reasons that nature gave it to you. My mouth is taped. And her mouth is taped shut, which is, and so. He still disturbs me. I got you. You interfere with her. It's do not disturb.

Listen, sometimes it's better when the mouth is taped shut. Oh, now you're going to get so much hate. One time he goes, you can leave it. See, listen, I took the napalm bomb from you. Now I'll get the hate. There you go. You're welcome. Thank you.

Now they're going to get me. Julie, where can everyone find your products? Where can they buy everything? Where can they find you pimp yourself out I'll pimp myself you can go to jbskrub

s-k-r-u-b dot com or amazon.com I think everyone knows where that is hopefully soon in brick and mortar in 2025

but that's that's a process I'm not allowed to talk about okay apparently I was like who cares

don't we sell everything online now but apparently that's the goal I've learned a lot I'm really business to talk about. Okay. Apparently, I was like, who cares? Don't we sell everything online now? But apparently, that's the goal. I've learned a lot. I'm really business. You can see my business head is firing. But apparently, yes, we want to be in brick and mortar.

Once you do it, you come back because you're really good on a mic. You should go back to do the podcast again. Yeah, you're good on a mic. Great on a mic. You know what? I'm not generous, though. Look at me. I've interrupted like 5,000 times. I have a feeling Chad probably wanted to stab my eyes out with a fork. Taylor? chad her old co-host no chad my old co-host i was like

taylor taylor no my old co-host i i'm like i think i'd be better maybe on my own i know no i like though no i don't think she needs a co-host no i like when the guest is animated i don't even know chad but i don't think you need a co-host. How does it usually go? Do people sit quietly and wait for you to ask a question? No, no, no, no, no, no. I should do that. No, it's a conversation. Got it.

Sometimes. We're not like you talk, I talk, he talks. It's a conversation. Good. Yeah, and listen, don't worry about interrupting because, again, the audience will complain about me interrupting mostly. Yeah, that's always the point. And I will just do what I always do and just blindly keep going. Do you guys listen to,

do you ever listen to Pivot? Kara Swisher and Professor Scott Galloway. I'm obsessed. I like Scott Galloway. I am obsessed. Obsessed, obsessed. I gotta listen. Pivot.

She is a tech reporter who was covering tech in the early 90s. So she knows every single person. She met them all when they were babies. I mean, everybody from the late great Steve Jobs to Elon Musk and in between and knows everything. And then she has her own podcast. But then she has Professor Scott Galloway come on. And together, they have great chemistry.

And they always interrupt each other. And they have fights on the air. And one day they had Esther Perel come on and talk to them about their relationship. But they're just friends. It's all the things you love. Yes, she's gay. She's a gay woman and he's a straight man. Okay.

You know what happens sometimes. I need to listen to Radiolab about the man. Radiolab about Utsi. Okay. About Utsi the Iceman. Someone's going to now name their baby Utsi. I guarantee it. I'm calling it right now.

How did Brad Pitt not name one of his six children Utsi? I don't know. Maybe he found out too late. Utsi. You want to have another one? Utsi? I don't know. Maybe he found out too late. Utsi. You want to have another one? Utsi? Utsi. And yeah.

And pivot. It's Scott Galloway. He's, I'm into him. I also have a giant crush on him there. I said it. You do. You know, Julie, he has a, if you had your podcast. He's married.

Here, Scott, here's a free one for you. He has a new book out that's around personal finance. It's called The Algebra of Wealth. See? and if you had your podcast, you could have invited him on and you could have smelt behind his ear. He's married. But you can invite people on your podcast that you like and you never

know. It's a great way to date. You can kill two birds with one stone. You can smell them, maybe. And then you can tell if someone's a dud or not, if they talk or not, if they're just dragging on. I like smart people. You could send me a brain in a jar and i'd be like i'm taking this to bed a brain in a jar yeah that's all i really like um adam silver the commissioner of the nba anyone you like that guy i don't know is he married yes he actually married some woman i know and but i'm like that's

the sexiest man alive and people too he's not a traditionally, by traditional beauty standards, he does not score off the charts, I am told. I don't, I can't even see it. I'm just like, your brain, leap with me, brain. I love his brain. I get, I get the, I'm not into looks anymore. Tony Soprano. Since yours faded. No, he's good looking.

Billy Bob Thornton. Oh, Tony Soprano. So you like James Gandolfini. Okay. So you have a vibe. You get into a vibe. I like a charisma, a thick personality with lots of depth. A thick personality.

A little Lego hair. Listen, hopefully you don't get that mouth tape on tonight. Do you have a thick personality? I got a big personality. I wouldn't have married a thin one. Julie, thank you for coming on. What a pleasure. You guys are a delight.

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