The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Kenzie Burke On Food Combining, Mindset, Diet, & Eating Habits
Episode Date: November 29, 2019#231: On this episode we sit down with Kenzie Burke to discuss the idea of food combining. Kenzie moved to Los Angeles at the age of 18 to pursue the fashion industry. During this time she developed h...ealth issues and as a result started working to get back in shape. After discovering food combining she decided to share her journey with the world. Today we discuss the concept in detail. To connect with Kenzie Burke click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Joovv. Experience the benefits of red light therapy by one of the best in the business; JOOVV! To experience the Joovv and receive a free gift with purchase go to joovv.com/skinny This episode is brought to you by SMART SWEETS. If you have a sweet tooth and are looking for a healthy alternative to some of your favorite candy, you have to try SMART SWEETS. To try smart sweets visit www.smartsweets.com and use code Skinny15 at checkout for 15% off your entire order. Produced by Dear MediaÂ
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All right, let's get into the show.
She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the
ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential him and her.
Everybody wants abs and everyone wants to feel great. So I'm just going to make this and it's really turned into everything but that it's turned into a lifestyle. It's turned into people finding
their best selves. I think that food, especially poor relationship with food,
has nothing to do with the food. It has to do with
yourself. Well, well, well, happy Thanksgiving. I hope you guys stuffed your face with turkey and
cranberry sauce like I did yesterday. We are back with the skinny confidential him and
her show. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Kenzie Burke. I'm Lauren Everett's
Bostick and I am stuffed. I'm eight months pregnant and I am stuffed like a fucking turkey
from Thanksgiving. I'm feeling pretty good. You know what I'm thankful for? Having to do pickups
on Thanksgiving. Everybody, welcome back to the show. My name is Michael Bostic.
I'm a serial entrepreneur and brand builder.
Most recently, the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Thankful for a solid year on the books.
What are you thankful for?
Thankful for my wife, my beautiful, hot wife, with my beautiful baby that's coming into this world.
And I'm thankful for me, guys.
I want to thank me.
I want to thank all the hard work I've done.
I want to thank this amazing life I've built for myself.
I want to thank myself for my amazing choice in women.
Okay, Michael.
I'm just kidding.
I took that from Snoop Dogg.
You know, he just did that.
If you want to see a fucking funny clip,
go and look at Snoop Dogg thanking himself.
I believe he has a new rap album.
It's actually fucking amazing.
It is hilarious.
I would be lying if I didn't relate to it a little bit. I'm just thankful.
Fuck. I'm thankful for myself, Lauren. I'm thankful. God damn it. I'm thankful.
Anyways, guys, we're fired up. As you can tell, we're thankful. We're just really thankful people.
Okay. I want to talk about something that I feel like needs to be addressed and maybe you can give
your two cents on it. So I snapped on Instagram story that Kenzie was coming on the podcast and I put up like story
teasers like I always do with all the guests and I got 90% amazing feedback. People were so excited
she's coming on. They're excited for the collaboration. And then, you know, you always
get the 10% and there's always 10% and people were, had this really adverse reaction to the fact that she's big on
food combining, which I get, I get that maybe it's not for everyone. And that some people have a
really, you know, nasty reaction to it. However, I just want to remind everyone out there. And I
think this is a perfect time to do it, that the Skinny Confidential, him and her podcast, is a platform for a plethora and medley of different opinions to come on. Just because
we have someone on doesn't mean we have to agree with them 100%. Name a friend or a family member
or your husband that you agree on everything 100%. I'm sorry if I only brought on guests to this podcast that I agreed with
100%. That would be a fucking boring podcast. Yeah, well, it's a problem in this world right
now in general that there's not a lot of room for gray area anymore. People, it's either right,
wrong, left, right. There's no room for conversation. There's so many people I know
in my life where I could look at them and say, you know what? I don't really 100% agree with
their opinion, but boy, that's an interesting perspective.
I can understand why they think that way.
Oh, I haven't thought about it like myself.
And I think it's really important to leave room to understand people's perspectives and to give people the ability to voice their opinion without judging them immediately.
I've talked about it before.
You're not doing yourself a favor by being so closed-minded to new perspectives and conversations. You don't have to agree with everybody, but you don't
have to have such a visceral, angry reaction. Just leave open space and try to go into every new
conversation. And when you meet new people with an open mind so that you can understand people
a little bit better. And I just want to say like for the past 10 years with everyone I've brought
on the blog, there's all different kinds of opinions.
And I've said, take what you like, leave what you don't.
Again, if we had all these people on the podcast that we agreed with them 100%, it would not,
it's not stimulating.
It's boring.
I love hearing new ideas.
I want to open my mind and expand my thoughts.
And I actually found Kenzie's theory on food combining really interesting.
I tried it for
five days. I'm obviously pregnant, so I can't dive into it too much, but I did, you know, test it out
and see if I liked it and how my body responded. And my digestion was on fleek the five days I did
it. So again, no one's making blanket statements. This podcast is just medleys of opinions. So my
advice is just be open-minded
to what other people think or their theories
because you never know.
And for those of you that are going to be shocked
by this statement,
if you've listened to this show for a while
and you think that I personally have agreed
with all of the perspectives
that have come onto this show
and all of the opinions
that have been voiced by guests on this show,
then you haven't been paying attention.
You haven't listened.
I do like to keep a place with Lauren
where anyone can come on and voice their opinion and share their perspective. That doesn't mean that I agree with everything
everyone's saying. I just have a platform for people to voice that opinion and speak their
mind. And I think that that's what this country needs to get back to. And that's what we as people
need to get back to is just leaving an open space for people to share their opinions. That's it.
You take it, take what you like, leave what you don't. Like Lauren said, you don't have to agree with
everything, but you don't have to get so angry if you disagree. Personally, I love to hear all
different kinds of opinions while simultaneously questioning the status quo. I think you can be
really open-minded to other people's, like I said, thoughts and theories, but also be questioning
them at the same time. I try not to have a visceral reaction towards anything because I think that's really emotional
and not logical. So there was some hate mail that I got over on this episode. And what I would say
to that is you haven't even heard the episode yet. Like, let's hear the episode. And then if
you have a strong opinion about this, then maybe write it to Lauren, not to me. Anyways, I'm just kidding.
Write it to at tails. You die. Um, yeah, write it to Taylor. He'll, he'll, he'll vet through it.
Taylor. You're going to vet through that for us. Let me guess your Mike's not on. Um, all right.
So Kenzie Burke is an influencer. She also specializes in wellness and nutrition, and she's a practitioner of food combining. She's tested it on herself and she gives us all the deets on it on this episode.
So with that, let's welcome Kenzie
to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her podcast.
This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her.
Okay, we have Kenzie in the studio.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Excited to have you in the studio.
Can you introduce yourself to our audience for anyone that doesn't know you?
So I am Kenzie Burke.
I'm in the health and wellness space.
I'm new to the Instagram influencing space. developed an expertise in food combining, which is all about eating different foods at different
times to optimize your digestion and conserve your energy. And I came out with a 21 day reset program
last February, and it just really took off. It gained a lot of traction and it's been healing
so many people, helping them find their best bodies and just bringing a new outlook on whole health to a young generation.
OK, so how do you get into food combining?
Because this is super interesting.
We've never had anyone on the podcast that's talked about this.
So food combining, just to break it down simply, is it can be very complex.
But basically the rundown of it is different foods use different digestive juices
to break down. So if you eat in a way to optimize your digestion, you are conserving some of your
energy being used that would be used to break down food. So the average human will eat 70 tons
of food in his or her lifetime. So that's a lot of food that passes through our systems. And that
is a lot of energy being used to break down your food. We use a lot of food to, I mean, a lot of energy to
break down food. So when you eat in a way where you're optimizing your digestion, you're conserving
that energy and saving energy for your body to use it in other ways, like to build your skin's
collagen, for energy and zest, to repair your tissue cells, to help fight disease. So it's really all about
conserving your energy. Bloating is another big thing. I have a lot of people with PCOS and IBS
who have been healed from this. And it kind of just goes back to food being medicine and using
food to heal yourself and to nourish yourself. It's kind of the breakdown of what the method is.
So Taylor shouldn't be combining Hawaiian jalapeno chips with Flamin' Hot Cheetos.
I mean, I wouldn't eat either of those things if my life depended on it.
He has extra on his fingertips.
Another big thing that I'm about is I'm about clean plant-based foods and no excuses.
So I'm not, though food combining, you can, you know,
combine your foods in a different way, no matter how you're eating. But I'm also really big on
eating clean and eating plants and being the best version of yourself and not sugarcoating it. Like
I'm very, just don't eat shit. I like that. Yeah. You know what? That's
unapologetically yourself. I like that. I mean, cause everybody, I think what I really noticed,
especially in the health and wellness space, but also in the body space. Cause I do target
young, a younger audience who's trying to find the body they want to find. And so many people
are looking for that handout, you know, and what can I do overnight? And it's just not about that.
I named my program 21 Days to Your Best Body because it's like 21 days to your lifestyle.
I like that.
Yeah.
I need to try it after I'm pregnant.
No, we'll get you.
Yeah, because I'm eating like these apple chips from the farmer's market that according
to your program, I should be eating in the morning.
Yeah, that's OK.
OK, so listen, there's a lot to unpack here.
There's a lot to unpack here, right?
There's probably a lot of people
sitting there with a notepad right now
trying to figure out, okay, where do I start?
So let's break it down
and just like start with you individually.
Like what is a typical day in the life
dietary meals throughout the day look like?
And get detailed.
Or let's just call it your diet.
What's your eating routine throughout the day?
So there's like three aspects of it.
So fruits are digested in 20 to 30 minutes.
They actually don't even sit in your stomach to digest.
You eat a fruit and it just passes right through you.
It releases the energy it needs to release.
And then the other two things that really stick out is proteins and starches.
So proteins and starches use different digestive
juices to break down in your system. So you ideally want to not combine protein and starches
and you want to pick a starch and pair it with vegetables or you want to pick a protein and pair
with vegetables. So a day for me is I wake up and I have lemon water and I have a big bowl of fruit.
Another thing that I'm really big on is eating fruit until noon.
What kind of fruit?
Everything.
So not just berries?
No, no, no.
I go for it.
I'm really into papayas right now.
I'll have, I mean, I eat, when I say I eat a lot of fruit, I eat a heaping amount of fruit.
A little tip or I guess fact is that from 4 a.m. to 12 p.m., your body is in an elimination state.
So it's eliminating what it doesn't need from that time. And it kind of makes sense if you notice a lot of people go to the bathroom in the morning.
So the best thing that you could eat between 4 a.m. and 12 p.m. is fruit since fruit digests so fast and it goes right through your system and it's not sitting in your stomach.
It doesn't affect the elimination cycle at all. So I'm very big on eating fruit until
noon. I'm also very into exercising and working out and I like to have a lot of energy. So I wake
up, I have a warm cup of water with lemon and a little bit of ginger. And then I have a big bowl
of fruit. And right now I've been doing, I'll do like a whole papaya, like a small papaya, but a whole papaya, raspberries, blueberries,
banana. I'll put some coconut flakes on it, some soaked goji berries, and then I'll go work out.
And after I work out, I'll have another big bowl of fruit. And that just kind of depends on what
I'm in the mood for. So one pause between, before we get to the next part yes for people that are listening saying well that's a lot of sugar
yeah but it's not okay so let's let's discuss it right trust me i'm somebody that's completely
uneducated in this space so that's why you know what else is a lot of sugar that shitty latte
that you had this morning there was no sugar in that you were confused about that no i wasn't
okay well fruit is like gift from the gods, right? We're supposed to eat
fruit. It was given to us when we were first put on this earth and it contains all the vitamins
and nutrients that we actually need. It's so good for you and it gives you the right kind of energy,
the kind of energy we need. It's just a matter of how you're eating your fruit. So fruit gets a bad
rep because you'll have someone who will eat a salad with chicken for lunch, and then they'll have melon for dessert. And that fruit has nowhere to pass
in your system when it has the salad with chicken sitting in it. So what happens is it creates a
reaction in your stomach and you'll get bloated, you'll get fatigue, and people will then just
blame it on the fruit and the fruit, but's not the fruit it's how you ate the fruit
so if you're eating fruit in the right way and i mean i i really got into this space through my own
struggles and through my own struggles around food and around my health and through having guilt
around food what do those struggles look like i was just struggling to find the right way of eating
for me i think that i was you know new to LA and I was working in the styling industry and there's just a lot of comparison going on. There's a lot of things on social media, body image, and it was hard to find a way to eat without guilt and to find the body that I wanted to find. So when I switched my thinking, the way I thought about food,
you know, thought about it in a way as nourishment and, oh, I'm eating my fruit and it's being
digested and it's giving me energy. It really just changed my relationship with food as a whole and
my body as a whole. You know who you remind me of? Who? Like you guys have a lot of parallels.
Melissa Wood Health. Yes. Do you know her? I know her. OK. Yes. As you're speaking, like you guys have a similar journey. I do her workout sometimes. OK. And she also is big. And
now and I forgot about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big on food combining as well. Yeah. She has the same
philosophy kind of way of eating. Yeah, I definitely read some blog posts on her. I found
about food combining from Harvey Diamond, and he wrote a book in the 1980s, all on food combining. So he was in the
Vietnam War, and he got poisoned with the chemical Agent Orange, which if you get poisoned with that,
you're kind of fucked for life. And he was able to maintain his symptoms through food combining
and through changing the way he ate, because it was giving his body more energy to fight off that
chemical. So he wrote a New York Times bestselling book called Fit for Life. And that's who I first
found out about it from. And then when I started researching it, I found Melissa Wood Health and
Dr. Mona. And when I started, it just changed my life. It completely changed my life. It changed
everything about me. And people would start to ask me, what was I eating? My body was changing. My abs are really defined. I started to
feel really happy about my food choices. I started to eat more than anyone I knew, especially I
noticed it at dinners, like around friends. I was like, oh, I'm fully eating my plate and other
people are picking. And it was kind of this aha moment where I thought, why does no one know about this? And there is this huge issue going on
right now, which is young women, especially are having a hard time forming a good relationship
with their food and their body. And so that was that moment when I was like, this is my mission
to change that health and wellness space and make it more about whole health versus calorie counting and weighing your food and restricting and looking at food as nourishment.
Mona, Dr. Mona does that too.
I misspoke.
I said we've never had food.
They both like food combining.
Okay.
So I want to go back to what you eat during a day because, Michael, a lot of people are going to want to know this.
Yeah, I agree.
Okay, so you said you start with the hot water with lemon and ginger and then you do a medley of fruit.
And then I work out.
And so what time is this?
Because people are, you know, like everyone wants details.
So I wake up at 6.
I have lemon water probably like 6.15.
I have fruit between 6.15 and 7.15. And then I work out at 8am every day.
And what's the workout?
I work out with my trainer. His name is Chase Weber.
Is it like strength training?
Yes. Or sometimes cardio. But yeah, it's hard. It's very hard. But I love working out. That's
like my passion. And so then I work out and then I get home. It's like 9.15, 9.30.
I shower.
So around 10, I have another big bowl of fruit or a smoothie or put like spirulina in my
smoothie.
I love spirulina.
It's so good for energy.
You can mix fruit with vegetables, but you cannot mix fruit with a protein powder.
So if I have a smoothie.
Fuck, I'm doing a smoothie every day and it has protein in it.
The protein takes
three to four hours to digest.
So I should just forget
the protein. So fuck the protein.
If you want protein, put spirulina
in it, which is a natural plant-based
protein. It's like all spirulina and then I add
protein. You don't need the protein.
God damn it. Okay, so
I'm going to do no protein in my smoothie. I have the same
smoothie Michael knows. I order it off Postmates every day.
And it's a bunch of fruit and vegetables.
And then I add protein, but I don't need the protein.
You don't need it.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Okay.
I mean, that's a whole nother conversation is why I don't think that people need to focus
on protein.
Oh, you have to meet my friend Ingrid.
She agrees with you.
For lunch, it depends on my mood, but most days I have avocado toast for
lunch. I love avocado toast. I'm very big on carbs. I love carbs. What kind of bread? Food for life
has this bread and it comes in a blue packet and it is sold out everywhere. I'm not going to say
that I did this, but I did this. It was fully stocked and now it's sold out
everywhere. And it's a game on my Instagram. People will tag me in their posts when they can
find the bread. Food for life. You got to sponsor her. Yes. Food for life. It's called the multi
seed bread. So I do that bread or I get a bread from the farmer's market. Okay. So I do avocado
toast and I'll have a matcha latte with the avocado toast.
And then I don't really snack.
I'm big on eating whole real meals.
I'm not a snacker.
So it depends, though.
If I'm extra hungry that day, I'll have a salad after I've had avocado toast.
And then dinner, I have a huge dinner.
And it's usually some sort of vegetable and grain, like a vegetable stir fry and a rice and a quinoa or I'll make plant based tacos.
It really depends. I'm very big on cooking.
So no meat, no eggs, no meat, no eggs.
What can you combine margaritas with and wine drinks?
I just say let anyone do what they want with the drinks.
Okay.
I mean, you can-
Just don't start before 11.
Yes.
Don't start before 11.
It can get very technical, but I just don't find it.
It doesn't need to be technical at all.
And so that's why I just, I say those three points, like fruit, protein, and starches,
and set your day up, eat light to heavy and you're good to go.
How old are you?
23.
23.
Does your generation not drink as much as ours?
I don't know.
I actually just started drinking.
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you did jesus yeah their generation i think your generation are we just fucked up at our age like
month and a half because my work's so stressful yeah by friday i'm like i have fucking margarita
this is not something that that anyone should
condone but you've never chugged a whole bottle of captain morgan's before no i mean in high
school i drank in high school i drank and then one yeah one day i got so sick and i just didn't
drink any time anything i would drink i would immediately throw up so i was like okay i'm not
gonna drink and then recently i just have needed to find the drink that I can keep down because by
Friday, I need a little something.
Taylor wants to invite you over for Captain Morgan jalapeno.
Yeah, I would never drink Captain Morgan.
I only drink Mezcal.
Maybe the youth is smarter than us because I've gotten sick many times drinking, but
it hasn't seemed to stop me or got me off the path.
But it handicaps you the whole next day. You're done. Well, I feel like you have to choose.
Well, that's well, see, this is where you got to be a little bit tougher. So if I have that type
of feeling in the morning, I got a little hair of the dog. I got to just keep that. I got to
keep it going. That is so like an alcoholic. You had two beers last night and you complain.
No, I have the hangovers of a 75-year-old man.
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't have time for hangovers.
Do you have any food recommendations for if you do have a hangover?
That could be interesting.
Coconut water is actually what I recommend.
But before you go to bed, chug a bottle of coconut water.
Electrolytes, hydration, vitamins.
So can you combine, you didn't mention healthy fats.
You said fruits alone in the morning.
Fruits alone in the morning.
Before what time?
I mean, after you start eating solid foods, then you do not want to eat fruits after that.
So I say go as long as you can in the morning.
If that's 10 a.m. and you want to have avocado toast or oatmeal and you need something else,
great. If that's noon, great.. and you want to have avocado toast or oatmeal and you need something else, great.
If that's noon, great.
Just go as long as you can.
You just want to avoid eating fruit after you've eaten solid foods.
Okay.
All I've been craving my entire pregnancy is cereal with fruit on top.
That's fine.
You have, what, three months left?
Yeah.
But I got to break that habit in three months.
Yeah.
Okay.
It'll be fine. So then you eat your healthy fat, which is avocado.
Yep.
With sour or your toast, your sourdough, whatever toast you're eating.
And fats combined really well together with starches.
And then at night, it's more starches and protein.
Starches and veggies.
And veggies.
But if you were to eat, and I personally don't, I'm plant-based, but if you were to eat and i personally don't i'm plant-based but if you were to eat
protein that would be a great time to do it and you would pair it with vegetables so instead of
having chicken rice and vegetables you should have chicken and a load of vegetables when i say
fill half or more of your plate with vegetables because it really optimizes your digestion that's
a good tip for you babe yeah like a really good. I could do that. Now, when I hear the system, I was like, I could probably do this. Really? No, it's, it's,
everyone thinks it's very complex and it's not. And it's also a ripple effect. I always tell
people who are getting into it. I'm like, just start your day with fruit. And then from there,
they kind of fish and they want a little bit more. And then when you get into it and you get used to
it, it's just common sense. You can feel it. You know, you can feel after you eat, you feel
energized, you feel light, you feel happy. And when you combine your foods improperly, you can feel
that rock and that sluggish feeling like everybody wants more energy in life. There's not one person
you can ask that's like, no, I don't want any more energy. So let me ask you this. Say someone's me and I'm not plant-based and I want to incorporate
either eggs or protein meat into the, what are the stages of fruit in the morning? Do you incorporate
any protein in the day? I know at night, obviously two thirds vegetables. No, like you could have
fruit in the morning. And then if you wanted to have eggs, you could put, make a nice little ball,
like salad, put some balsamic on it, put some eggs
on it, a little avocado.
Yeah, just separate from the fruit.
Yeah.
Separate from the fruit.
That's a lunchtime.
You want to wait 30 minutes after you've eaten your fruit to eat other foods.
So your Alfred's burrito this morning wouldn't work.
Wouldn't work.
What's, what is your controversy on protein?
You mentioned that earlier.
I, I mean, there's a lot of studies coming out now on protein and how, you know, that whole
myth of how we all need protein, especially if you work out a lot and you won't be able
to build muscle.
It's all kind of a myth.
And I've been living that for three years.
I work out and I have lots of muscle.
And if I want to get my butt to grow, I can get it to grow.
And it just is very taxing
on the digestive system. It uses a lot of energy to break down. So I think it depends. It depends
what type of meat for sure. For sure. You know, the reason like I there's a lot of studies that
support both sides, but people got up in arms because I think what's doing harm to the entire
when people start having these dietary conversations is because they give blanket statements for an entire
population.
For sure.
Meat is bad.
Being a vegan is bad.
Being plant-based is bad.
That is not helpful.
You have to really like individually look at your body and what works for you and then
make a decision.
A hundred percent and decide what works for you.
And that's why I say just fill half or more of your plate with vegetables and the other
half, pick your starch and your protein. And I, usually everybody who does my program by the end of it has less animal protein naturally,
not because they set out to do that, but just because they have a lot more energy and zest
and they don't feel the need for it. And I'm not, I'm not against animal protein, but I do get that.
No, your approach is good because it's.
I don't like to tell people exactly what to do because you can tell someone 18 times to do
something and it's until they figure it out on their own that it's going to stick. So I just
make suggestions and I let them figure it out on their own.
I think that goes with anything. When I was a kid and I had all these entrepreneurial ideas,
my dad would be like, okay, you know, I could tell you do this, don't do that, but you're really not going to understand it until you get there.
And I told Lauren this too, I'm like, as you start building a business, different things are
going to come up and you may think you have an idea, but until you actually, I mean, this is
any walk of life. It could be a business, could be family, could be children, could be diet.
Until you actually go and experience it for yourself, your blanket statements aren't going
to be helping. You actually have to navigate it individually.
For sure.
And then make a decision.
For sure. What kind of transformations have you seen?
And you can get as micro as possible with this way of eating.
I mean, I've seen, you know, people who have had SIBO,
who have been in and out of doctors for years with digestive issues,
with stomach problems
they've come to me I've seen you know someone who's lost her parents and gained 40 pounds
drop it after a month I've really seen all sorts of transformations and I think that when I first
started what I was doing it was like okay I understand that everybody wants abs and everyone wants to feel great. So I'm just
going to make this. And it's really turned into everything, but that it's turned into a lifestyle.
It's turned into people finding their best selves. I think that food, especially poor relationship
with food has nothing to do with the food. It has to do with yourself. And so though food combining and diet is the base of
my business and how I broke into the industry. And it's really, you know, I share a lot of eating
tips and it really helps people. It's turned into so much more than that. And it's turned into
lifestyle and mindset because if you feel good, it really changes so much around you and it changes
your confidence levels. And my transformations have just really spoke to that.
It just has been so beyond what you eat and beyond the health.
It's really been a big mind transformation.
And my business and what I preach has really turned into food and mindset
and being the best version of yourself.
What is your opinion on intermittent fasting? I'm big on it. It's a requirement in my 21 day reset to take a 12 hour
eating break. Okay. So talk me through that because I'm a big fan of intermittent fasting.
I'm obviously not doing it right now. Yeah. I mean, I think that it's great. I think 12 hours
at a minimum, but it's good to give your body a break.
I mean, I'm big on energy, right?
So if you're eating,
even if you're eating in a way that optimizes your digestion,
your body's still using energy to break it down.
So I just, I think it's great to give it a break.
I think it also reduces inflammation.
I really noticed that.
I have chronic,
or I was diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease when I was 14.
So I really struggled with health issues for a very long time and lots of inflammation. And I
really find that intermittent fasting helps that. You know, if you if you look back in the way we've
evolved as humans, all of this like intermittent fasting obviously makes a lot of sense because we
didn't have the luxury of just being able to go into the pantry and grab food whenever we wanted.
Humans had to evolve to eat like this. And when you think, okay, fruit fruit was if you woke up in the morning that was a very easy thing to access and
eat early in the morning and you know it the reason all this stuff makes sense is i just think
about how human nature and how humankind has evolved over time and these are all very easy
natural things eat fruit in the morning build up to protein in the in the evening after you've
either caught it yeah killed it whatever it makes sense for sure like creates that path And then obviously you take a long break until you can get your next meal.
Yeah. I mean, food combining really, it goes way, way, way, way back. This is how we ate.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
This is exactly how we ate because you had fruit in the morning.
You were mixing all this stuff together.
You weren't mixing a protein. If you had a starch, you were having that starch. If you
found protein, you were having that protein. You weren't mixing it all together.
And I mean, I get backlash sometimes and I get hate sometimes from people in the medical
field.
And they tell me that what I'm preaching isn't scientifically proven.
And my answer to that is you're right.
But it's not a science.
And that's why it works.
It's common knowledge.
It's common sense.
It goes way back in the beginning. This is how we were supposed to eat. And it's not some crazy science. And that's why it works it's common knowledge it's common sense it goes way back in the beginning this is how we were supposed to eat and it's not some crazy science and that's why it
works and that's why it's healing thousands of people so what else are you getting up to up here
move you move here you're in l.a you said you're never leaving what's going on what's the day-to-day
life up here dating no what's what's everyone doing in the social scene these days i i don't
even know what to do where to go i. I'm like, I'm out.
Well, I'm very businessy.
Okay. I'm very businessy.
So I have my next venture, which is launching in January 2020.
But I can't talk about it.
Being very businessy.
I'm the same way.
And next thing, I look around and I don't even know where to go anymore.
I don't know where the cool spots are.
I'm kind of work obsessed.
Yeah, but you and me both.
Lauren too.
Now look at us. We're just like hermits. Yeah, but- No, I don't know anything,
people. Like last night, everyone asked me, what did you do last? I didn't even know it was
fucking Halloween until I went outside and there was someone dressed up. Let's take a little detour
and talk about my favorite candy. If you have not tried Smart Sweets, boy, you are missing out. I'm
not kidding you guys. They are these gummies that are
filled with fiber and they don't have any added sugar, no artificial colors and no artificial
flavors. My personal favorite is the Sour Blast Buddies, but they also have gummy bears,
peach rings and sweet fish. And like I said, no nasty ass ingredients. So lower sugar, lots of fiber, lower calories.
It's kind of like feeling good about candy and not feeling guilty for enjoying the candy
that you like.
And it's all the nostalgic flavors that you just like miss from when you're a kid.
Personally, I'm a big fan of bringing these in my purse when I go to movies.
I've talked about this before.
Anytime I go to the movie theater, I just stash these in my bag and then I mix them in with the popcorn. This is so good when you're
pregnant too. And it's like a salty, sweet infusion in your mouth. We are planning on having the
founder too on the podcast soon. She's a young female founder, which I love supporting. And she
dropped out of college to innovate candy. And she's done that. She's 25 years old. So it's cool to support other
female founders and kick your sugar habit, get some peach rings in, perhaps some Sour Blast buddies,
and go to the movies. You know what I mean? Anyway, if it were up to me, I would definitely
stock up on the peach rings and the Sour Blast buddies, like I said. And of course,
we have a fun offer. You get to use code SKIN skinny for 15% off your order of $30 or more on smartsuites.com. I have used my own
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continental USA and Canada. So stock up. Let me know what you think. All right, let's get back
into health and wellness. You're working.
Well, I just want to say, I said this to you earlier.
I said that you are a content creator that I always like to look for like people that
are on the pulse.
So I'm always I'm always like watching and I don't like to consume too much content,
but I do like to watch what's happening.
I don't like to consume too much content either.
Because you get overwhelmed.
Yeah, overwhelmed.
And it makes you think about your voice. 500 ways to eat. Like I'm not
going to go follow, you know, someone that is paleo. Like because that's just not the way that
I eat. But I'll have conversations on the podcast, but I'm not going to follow the all day, like
every day, their Instagram story. Yeah. Because that's just, it's too much content. Yeah. But I've
been watching like your Instagram feed. I think I, I don't know how we found each other. Maybe just talking in DMS
and you are really doing it right. You're an example of someone that has tapped into this
market and not use the excuse of oversaturation and you found your niche and you're just, you're
doing a really good job of being a millennial and entrepreneur. Can you sort of
talk on how you got into the entrepreneur space? Yeah. I mean, it goes way back to when I was a
child. I grew up in Wisconsin in a very small town and I just was so frustrated when I was
growing up. I never fit in. I was in public school, private school, homeschool, every school, moved towns
because I just was so frustrated. I always wanted to be older and I always wanted more. And I just
always saw this great life for myself outside of small town living. And I just had kind of a dream
to make it. And so I moved here when I was 18 and I started pursuing all of these
things because it was what I thought my end goal should look like. Like I started pursuing styling
because I thought, okay, it'd be cool if I was like a celebrity stylist, that's a great image.
And I can run my own business. I've always had this strong, I've always known that I don't want
to work for someone else. I would, you know, I was
interning for styling in the styling industry and working seven days a week because I had to personal
assist on the side. I was babysitting. I was waitressing because I had to pay my own bills
and I was just burning out and I was working for other people and I knew I don't want to work for
other people. And then I found my calling, which was the health and wellness space. And it was never
anything I thought I was going to do. And it was, I kind of put my ego aside and realized this is
what I meant to do. This isn't what I thought my image should be. But from there, I really started
to find myself because I liked what I was talking about. I knew what I was
talking about. It was exciting to me. And I was always a very confidently insecure person.
And when I, you know, made my 21 day reset, I had 4,000 followers. I mean, and I'm very new
to this space. I really grew from March until now. So eight months, but I had this
moment where I knew that I had to just let everything go and fully be myself if I wanted
to make this work. And I wanted to break into the industry because I knew what I was talking about
was quality. I knew the solution I found was very quality and life-changing, but I also knew after working
in the styling industry, you know, assisting other bloggers, assisting celebrities, that
it's really hard to break in unless you can break in.
And I actually had this moment.
It was from your podcast, actually.
Last year in January, you did an episode with Ed Milet.
He's the best.
He's coming.
He's going to do another one at the end of this year.
That changed my life.
No, that changed my life.
He changes a lot of lives.
You know what?
I think he's, I'm going to say this.
He might be my number one favorite podcast guest.
That's a pretty strong statement.
I love him.
I love him.
So I listened to that and I had this moment where I just knew that I needed to stop looking
at other people.
I needed to drop any insecurities that I had and fully be myself and talk about what I
wanted to talk about.
I'm a very blunt person and I'm very opinionated and I know my shit.
But in the past, I would let insecurities get the best of me.
And so I kind of just made this choice to drop it and go for it.
I think that's really important. There's so many people that are doing that,
right? They're letting those insecurities hold them back. And you're a living example of you
just drop that and move and go. But I wasn't happy, you know, and that's the other thing.
I was not happy as a child. I was not happy as a teenager. I was not happy when I moved to LA. I mean, I was just not
happy. And then it was when I fully dropped everything and started to be myself that I
became extremely happy. I mean, obviously, but I also just, I, the people that I like the most
are the people that are real. They're the people that say whatever they want to say,
and they lead by example. And that is who I've was born to be. I was born naturally a leader and I've
always known that, but it was that little bit of insecurity. So I completely dropped it. And I mean,
I'm still evolving and growing, but every day I get more confident and I get louder.
And as far as social media goes, I think that it's very hard to break in right now, but if you have something to offer
and it's quality and it's, you're giving your audience something, they can take that and do
something with it. You know, I think that there's so many accounts out there. They just show things
and I don't follow any of them anymore. I mean, so you touched on it. You said, you say it's an
obvious thing, which it is being yourself and being authentic and doing what you actually want to do. And there's so many value. Yes. And so
many people know that. And it is an obvious when you look at it, like, yeah, of course that's
working because she's being herself and it can't be duplicated. And she's living exactly how she
wants to live and be in talking about the things she wants to talk about. But so many people can't
do that. They're scared, they're hesitant, they're insecure. And so they think they need to serve
content or, or act in a certain way that serves other people, maybe not themselves. And they say, oh, you know, there's Kenzie's formula. That's working
for her. Maybe I can emulate that. Or that's Lauren's formula. I mean, and I see it all the
time. I see people copying me all the time, but. But that's okay. Yeah. It's just, but what's,
what's a shame for that stuff is that it's not going to work for that person. So like anybody
listening, I would encourage them to just do what you did and obviously just be who they are. And
that's what resonates. Like Ed is who he is. Lauren is who she is obviously just be who they are. And that's what resonates. Like
Ed is who he is. Lauren is who she is. You are who you are. And that's the way it works. It's
such a simple formula. Just people can't do it because the insecurity holds them back and they
think they need to emulate somebody else's formula. And that never works. It is a split
decision though that you make, because I can remember when I first started creating content
and I started, I had a split decision where I was like, wait a minute,
I'm literally going to lay everything on the table. And if they, if people don't fucking like me, they can go follow a billion other people. When you have that epiphany, it's so liberating.
It's so freeing. I mean, that was, that's been my entire year is that I had that. And I started to
fully share my content. I, you know, I had lived with a roommate
and I completely left in the middle of the lease. I mean, she's still my great friend, but to move
to Beverly Hills and the house that I wanted to live in the house that like felt creative for me,
that I could create my content. I made extremely risky decisions with money, but it was just
in so many ways because I just had this moment where I was like,
I want to be who I want to be. That is a huge part of what I preach. That's a huge part of
my business and I'm just going to live it. And so, yeah, it's been very freeing.
Well, listen, when it comes to money, 23 years old, you could literally take
the risk. You can make the riskiest moves for the next 10, 15 years and be fine. I mean,
that's all I did in my youth you can fuck up i wish you
could tell yourself that at 23 listen all well i did it at 23 all i do is take risky moves with
money at that and listen when before you have children and responsibilities and families and
obligations like this is the time if you're 20 years old to 30 like this is the time to completely
fuck up you can you can lose you're gonna learn so much and money comes and goes it comes and goes
time back no exactly and
the problem is is like what happens to people is they they want to take these chances but then
later they have kids they have obligations they have family they have bills they have a mortgage
and then it's like no you can't do that you can't be that irresponsible with money because now you
have obligation but right now worst case for you you lose everything you're still young you can
live the same way no you can bounce back i mean i've i've made it to here and i've had some hard fucking problems when i'm living in la like it has not
been like what give us an example i've been broke so many times just you know those moments when you
i would pay rent and i would have five dollars in my bank account and i'd be going through a light
and get a flat tire you know and just like i can't fucking even pay for the car, you know, and I would have like my younger
16 year old brother Venmo me ten dollars. But it was because I just saw this life for myself and I
did not give up. And there's so many moments when I could have just gone home. It's not until this
year when I finally have friends because I'm actually living a life that aligns with me.
So obviously now I'm meeting people that are supposed to be in my life.
But before that, I didn't really have friends.
It was lonely.
And again, it was just, but I just pushed and I pushed and I pushed because I saw that
I knew that there's a life that I needed to live.
It's super important that I wish this for every young person.
I wish massive failures early in their career. I I wish this for every young person. I wish massive failures early
in their career. I'm so happy for every single one because what's going to happen. And a lot of
people are like, why do you wish this for failure? It's because you got to learn how to take those
gut punches early and struggle and struggle and struggle because when it, because later, if you
have, if you find success really early on and you think that's just the norm, and then you get taken
down a peg and you don't know how to handle it and you have family and you have obligations you spiral out of control and you
don't know how to come back from it so it's like it's good to get this callous and get beat up a
little bit when you're young because it's just building your armor for later because as a young
entrepreneur you're going to start going into a lot of serious avenues and you're going to start
doing doing a lot more things and you're going to have to have that armor built up because it's
tough it's really fucking tough working for yourself. For sure. I mean, this summer, this summer, right when I was
at the peak and I was gaining a lot of traction, I had this negative press go out. I was on Daily
Mail. I was on Cosmopolitan about how my method is not backed by science. And it was so intense
to wake up to like 500 emails. And no matter what I said on social media, I was getting attacked and it crushed me. It's crushed me because I had just rose in this space. And now
looking back on it, just four months later is the best thing that ever happened. It really humbled
me. It really like pivoted my voice. It really made me realize why I was doing what I was doing.
And yeah, so I'm very big on having, you're always going to have haters.
It's part of it for sure. Embrace it. Well, now I love it. Yeah. Now I'm like, okay. Yeah.
Just let them hate. Yeah. No, I love it now. I mean, you're going to have haters. You're going
to have setbacks and there's going to be times in your career as an entrepreneur. This happens
to everybody, every entrepreneur where you're going to think you're on top and you're going
to just get smashed to the bottom. And that's, what's going to differentiate you. And from, from other people,
it's like, can you actually get back up and keep going? A lot of people can't. And that's why I
wish for early on failures because you learn like, okay, that's not so bad. Things that you think,
things that I used to think were big deals. Now it's like, Oh, that's a five minute mindset thing.
That's I fixed that in five minutes, something that took me years and years to fix when I was
a kid. Now I'm like, OK, that's just another thing.
You know what's interesting that you said that no one's talked a lot about on this podcast that resonates resonates.
You you said that you were lonely and you said you were lonely in high school and college and college.
But, you know, that kind of age.
Yeah.
Being a leader is lonely.
It's so lonely. And no one talks about that because it sounds like, oh, woe is me. But so many leaders have come on this podcast and said
that it's lonely. It is. It's so lonely. Yes. I mean, it's lonely right now. I'm lonely right now.
But because you sacrifice a lot, it's like I haven't had a boyfriend since high school, mostly by choice because I haven't, I've been grinding and I've been doing my thing and I've
been trying to survive. And now that I'm surviving, I'm trying to grow and it takes a lot. It consumes
you. And I also have been very motivated to fully find myself and learn about myself. And you're like a leader. So you're not following
anyone. You have to constantly come up with new concepts, new ideas, speak from the soul,
speak about your experiences, speak about your learning experiences. It takes a lot and you have
to pour a lot out. And so, yeah, you're not worried about what so-and-so is doing on a Wednesday night.
Yeah.
I told you 20 minutes ago, I told you that you're in some trouble because you got the
entrepreneurial bug and what that's going to do.
It's going to isolate you in a lot of ways because it's going to it's not relatable to
the to the general population.
It's very hard to find people to find friends.
And it's when things are going good.
You can't talk about that.
I think that's a very important subject. Find friends and when things are going to surface level can't. A lot of people talk about that. I think that's a very important subject. It's really hard to find friends and to get past surface level, though.
And you can't.
If things on the surface look good, right?
Like you got a big following.
Your books are doing good.
Everyone from the outside says, wow, she's crushing it.
Everything's good.
So everything must be great.
So you can't go and complain.
Well, and everyone wants to be your friend.
The more on the up and up you are, the more people come out of the crevices that I've noticed.
And I'm like, where did you come from? Or people that were there before them the dementors didn't even like
notice me two years ago and now you're trying to take me to dinner those are the energy suckers
oh i don't fuck with them oh no i don't fuck with them either i want to talk about wellness a little
bit morning routines nighttime routines that don't have to do with food and drink right like for me
i'm just giving a couple of examples like a salt rock lamp, white noise machine. Do you have any of those
practices or habits that you do? Yes. I am very big on how you start your day and end your day
because you can't really control sometimes what happens in the middle of the day. So I think it's
really great to start your day strong and to end your day strong. Wellness in the morning, I don't look at
my phone. I don't check Instagram or my emails, which is really hard to do, but I try really hard
to wake up and it's still kind of dark outside and just keep the lights on low and not check
my phone. And I just kind of do my routine in silence. And that, I mean, I wish I had a better morning routine,
but my morning routine is really my workout.
That's something that really grounds me
and that I really get kind of a high off of
and it challenges me.
And that's something I thrive
and I look forward to every single day.
So that's my main morning routine is I have my workout
and I don't really start my day.
I don't work. I don't really start my day. I don't
work. I don't do anything until I've worked out. And then as far as night, I have tea every single
night. I have like a cleansing liver detox tea. So I have my tea. Where do we get this tea? It's
called Tulsi tea and you can get it on Amazon. I can't find it in the store. You knew she was
going to ask you that. Oh, it's so good.
I swear it's why I don't get sick when I drink.
I can't have detox tea right now.
Probably.
Yeah, I would check with your doctor.
Yeah.
But it's amazing.
But I want the bread and the tea.
And the tea really curbs bad cravings, I've noticed.
Okay, I'm going to get the tea.
It's Tulsi Cleanse Tea on Amazon.
All right, I'm going to get that.
So I have my tea and then I have my diffuser.
At night is the same thing.
I try to put my phone away, which I'm not that good at.
It's really hard.
But I try to put my phone away.
I make my cup of tea.
I do my skincare routine.
I have a diffuser and I put sandalwood in it.
And I only use sandalwood.
I just love the smell and it's very calming. And I put sandalwood in it and I only use sandalwood. I just love the smell and it's
very calming. And I put it on. I have white noise and I put my white noise on and I go to sleep.
And usually I go to sleep. Lately, I have not been able to go to sleep, but usually I do.
Try calm magnesium. Yes. That works really well. I need to go. Yeah. Or just get pregnant
because that makes you go right to bed. That makes you go right to bed.
I usually am a big sleeper, but lately I cannot fall asleep.
Maybe you need blue light glasses.
I just went to the eye doctor yesterday.
Yeah, maybe it's like we're all staring at our phone all the time.
Yeah, all day. It's overstimulation.
You know what I think you should do when this episode goes live? I think you should do like, like in tandem with the episode,
Instagram stories on walking someone through a whole day of what you eat.
So,
so because this podcast is audio.
Yep.
And for me,
you said you eat a big bowl of fruit.
Does that mean it's as big as Michael's head?
Like,
is it?
No,
it's really big.
As big as my tits.
Like how big,
how big are we talking?
When they see how much fruit I eat in the morning.
Okay.
So I think.
It can't be as big as those tits. You gotta get a bucket. Nothing can be as big as these tits. No, if we shocked when they see how much fruit okay so i think it can't be as big as those tits you gotta get a bucket it can be as big as these tits
no if you could like show us i will and then you said like you drink a matcha latte well is it oat
milk or almond milk and like is it unsweetened or are you making it at home like i feel like you
need to walk the audience through so they can visually see for sure because what you do is so
visual yes it's very visual and it's again Yes, it's very visual. And it's again, people think it's
very overwhelming and it's just eating the foods you want to eat, eating clean foods and a matter
of timing and how you eat it. OK, I have a couple more questions. Yes. Beauty secret that you're
obsessed with. Well, no one likes it, but it's how I eat. I had really bad skin. And when I started food combining and
eating a lot of plants, my skin really, really, really changed and it became plump. Like I used
to notice wrinkles on my forehead and on my neck that I didn't like. And when I started to transform
the way I ate within six months, I noticed my skin was glowy and it was plump. And so I really think that
beauty and fitness starts in the kitchen. But as far as skincare, I have this facial lady,
her name is Silvana and she's in Studio City and it's a hole in the wall and she's very Armenian
and she's really crazy, but she makes her own skincare and it's like witchcraft. And it's very
simple. It's like the foods I eat. They have each it's like witchcraft and it's very simple it's like
the foods i eat they have each product has like four ingredients in it spirulina is one of them
and it changed my skin okay that's all i use i cannot put anything else on my skin even brands
they want to work with me and i'm like i can't i cannot put anything else on my skin i gotta try
her now like it's amazing hole in the wall is the best for skin. Okay. Michael
and I have a secret hole in the wall. If you put that hole
in the wall out on this show, I will edit it out.
I will edit it out. No, no, no.
I won't. I'll tell you after.
There are a few things I hold sacred.
This is one thing. No, it's not a massage.
We have a hole in the wall
foot spa that we go.
I actually saw it on your story.
I was like, I wonder if I'll be able to find that. It's a hole in the wall. I won't. Okay, so we go and i actually saw it on your story i was like i wonder if i'll be able to find that
it's a hole in the wall and we i will i won't okay so we go and we work on our phones michael
doesn't work he usually just gets no i zone out okay and it's like disgusting like it is just
it's i can't even explain it like everything's dirty but it doesn't matter because it's better than any five star hotel
massage ever.
I can't.
Michael, it's cheap.
No, no, no, no.
I, my worst nightmare is to be in there and have someone go, Michael, no, no one's ever
in there.
Cause it's like, it's like dark and dingy.
And like, there's two places I won't let her share.
One is a place I like to go for lunch all the time.
I'm going to share that place.
So if you keep going there, cause I'm annoyed.
That is divorce.
We will not do that.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe I will not.
No,
it's actually the worst.
Now that I'm in the influencer space,
when I go to my spots and I hear people say my name,
I look around.
I'm like,
no,
you have to have a place that you zone out.
One place.
Just one place.
Like a little,
you don't want to run into Helen from second grade.
No, I wouldn't even tell run into Helen from second grade. No.
I wouldn't even tell my family where this place is.
If my family called me and said, hey, man, I'm in some serious...
In our calendar, it's when I want him to come do it with me.
We call it Peter's toenail.
Well, I don't know.
Do you know what you're so annoying?
You do that.
Our secret word.
Hold on.
You do that and you put it not in our calendar.
You put it in the Dear Media team calendar.
My entire team's like, what are you doing?
Peter's toenail.
I'm like, it's time to go to Peter's toenail.
Anyways, this is older.
If my mother called and said, yo, I'm in serious pain.
Can you tell me where to go?
I'd be like, not that place.
Not Peter's toenail.
So if someone wants to start this way of eating tomorrow,
what are three tangible tips that you can give them that are super easy
on where they can start to not overwhelm them?
Start with having fruit in the morning on an empty stomach, not mixing it with anything else.
Be mindful of combining proteins and starches together.
And so stay away from that.
Stay away from combining them together.
So if you can just say, just, you know, look at your meal and say, I'm going to have a protein or a starch and I'm going to pair it with vegetables.
And then my third tip is just start making sure half or more of your plate is vegetables and then let it be a ripple effect.
Those are easier for you.
And those are small things that one can make that will make a massive difference.
My biggest thing I say to everybody
is it's the smallest changes that lead to the biggest results. What about coffee? Does it
matter when you combine coffee with anything? It doesn't matter. Or almond milk? No, I mean,
if you want to get very technical, but milks are so watered down already. And I don't like
to overwhelm. It doesn't need to be super complex to feel and see the results. Okay,
let's keep it at those three things.
So Taylor, don't combine your Hawaiian jalapeno chips with-
Or just stop eating them.
With your banana candies that you're eating.
Book podcast resource that you would recommend to our audience
that's brought you a lot of value.
Becoming Supernatural by Dr. Joe Dispenza.
I just put that book in your room. Is it? Are we talking to him? Phenomenza. I just put that book in your room.
Are we talking to him?
Phenomenal.
I just put that book in your room.
I found him from Ed Milet.
Okay.
He was on Ed Milet.
I saw that.
Is he coming on the show or something?
Why did you put him?
I mean, I'll read it.
He sent us the book.
But what I like about him is he was he some people just like want to come on the show
and pimp out their stuff.
For sure. He really wants you to read the book. book oh that's why you put it in there yeah he just really changed the way i
thought i've always been a very a very negative person and he really made me wake the fuck up and
was like you don't i don't know i think that we all think that we're tied to the title that we've
been given or we're tied to who we were last year. And he really just says that's not so. I love stuff like that. It's like you're
not addicted to your narrative. Yes. Yeah. And my life's very good with that, too. And my I mean,
and my let's really up there for me, too. And can you tell we love you? Pimp yourself out. Where can
everyone find you? Do you want to give a code for your e-book? Do you want to? I don't know. You
could tell me later if you want to do that.
We could do a giveaway.
Yeah, we can do a code.
OK, we can do a code.
OK, my Instagram handle is at Kenzie Burke.
And my website is Kenzie Burke health dot com.
Taylor, I would like to know as we wrap this episode up,
what is a tangible takeaway that you have learned from this episode?
Yes, I want to hear it.
Ooh, what are you doing back there there he's learned all about your six
pack all of it i'm thinking i mean as far as i'm not okay i'll try not to eat the chips it's going
to be a tough one since i haven't had lunch i'm probably going to go off the deep end there okay
what have you been doing back there what are you doing jacking off what are you doing back there
this is very hard for me to absorb because you have to realize like i'm new to the health craze
you're not that new you actually listen to every one of these episodes we've been yeah this is What are you doing back there? This is very hard for me to absorb because you have to realize I'm new to the health craze.
You're not that new.
You actually listen to every one of these episodes. Yeah, this is episode 240.
We have had so many people come on.
You cannot say you're new.
And you're also a producer for other schools.
I mean, I'm desensitized to it is what I mean.
Okay, so what's your tangible takeaway?
You're not getting away from this, so you might as well just really think hard.
What is one takeaway?
I would say the vegetables, the protein, and the fruit.
What about it?
What about it?
Can you hear it?
Taylor, please cue the Jeopardy music right now.
You said don't mix them together because of the sugar.
Say that again.
Oh, man.
Say it again.
Wait, what is it?
We said that.
What is it?
Taylor, hold on.
Hold on.
I actually want to hear what you took away.
Say this again.
It had to do with not mixing the fruit in protein powder.
And Lauren said, oh, I do that.
You did not learn a single thing here today.
I don't think you absorbed anything.
Yeah.
Ready?
Taylor, what did you learn?
I need to restructure my diet.
How about that?
Does that work?
Well, ladies and gentlemen, folks, we have the answer.
And the answer is that our producer is a moron.
And don't follow Tales You Die on Instagram.
Thanks for coming on, Kenzie.
Thank you for having me.
Be sure you guys definitely check out Kenzie's blog and the Skinny Confidential because we did
a blog swap with all specifics from this episode. Lots of links that you're wondering about the kind
of bread she eats, the kind of tea she likes. We did it all on each other's blog. So that's up.
Also, of course, as always, let's round it out with a giveaway. So today we're giving away
Kenzie Burke's body
guide and the skinny confidential body guide. So you get both of our body guides.
Mine is focused very much on workouts and a bunch of food tips. And then hers is obviously about
food combining. All you have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest
Instagram at the skinny confidential. And with that, I hope you guys all had an amazing
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