The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Kyle Richards On The Truth About Her Life, Family, & What You Don't See On RHOBH

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

#957: Join us as we sit down with Kyle Richards – actress, television personality, and entrepreneur. After her early start as a child star, she became a household name as an original cast member of��The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, where she remains the longest-running cast member, known for her candid personality, successful business ventures, and lasting influence in pop culture. In this episode, Kyle reflects on parenting at a young age and raising her four daughters, shares insights from her early acting career that led to RHOBH, discusses how she instills authenticity in everything she does, opens up about family life and personal wellness, and teases exciting new ventures on the horizon.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Kyle Richards click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential The beauty tool that started it all, redesigned to evolve with you. Shop Ice Roller at https://bit.ly/IceRollerSilver today.   This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to http://hiyahealth.com/SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Starbucks Order Now on the app.   This episode is sponsored by Hero Bread Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to http://hero.co and use the code SKINNYPOD at checkout.   This episode is sponsored by Ollie Ollie. Feed the Obsession. Go to http://ollie.com/skinny and use code skinny to get 60% off your first box!   This episode is sponsored by Ritual Save 25% on your first month at http://Ritual.com/SKINNY.    This episode is sponsored by Sam Edelman Visit us at http://samedelman.com to explore everything you need for spring and get 15% off with code skinny15.   This episode is sponsored by LTK If you're a brand or founder, get on the LTK brand demo list to see it for yourself. Sign up here http://shopltk.com/skinny and see the platform in action. If you're a creator, my referral link (https://creator.shopltk.com/apply/creator/home?utm_source=pd1&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=acquire&utm_content=TheSkinnyConfidential) to apply there while we keep the conversation led by the brand story. Produced by Dear Media

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostic. Together, they are the Bostics. The Bostics are interviewing Kyle Richards. What an icon. Oh, you'll love this episode. Actress, television personality, entrepreneur, mother of four. She is a household name. She is an original cast member of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

As we know, Emma Housewives, Connoisseau. and Kyle Richards exceeded my expectations. We are going to talk about living authentically, motherhood, new ventures, raising strong daughters, reality TV secrets, and family life. So let's get into it. Kyle Richards, welcome to the Bostics. Tell me the separations of the children again.

Okay, well, I had my first baby, Farah at 19 years old. I was a mommy at 19. Wow. That's crazy. Then I was in my 20s with the next one. Okay. And then I was 30 with the next one, and then almost 40 with the last one. And you wish you squeezed two more in?

Yes, I do. I wish I'd had more in between. But Sophia was so difficult. She was. Well, Farah, first of all, I was so young. And then I had to wait and, you know, I got divorced and then I got remarried. So I had a window there where, you know, obviously that's why there's that gap. But yeah, I wish I had had more in between.

But Sophia was challenging. I thought, okay, I guess I'm done. And then they, you know, they get older and they go to school. And you're like, I can do this again. And I'm someone who can handle a lot at once. Like, I can have the kids and the dogs and a lot, like, happy chaos going on. I can do well with that. So I really enjoy that.

And I liked all of it, the pregnancy and everything. You're going to be such a good grandma when they all have kids. I know. Like, I can see them just leaving all the kids at your house. Oh, I'm so scared that they're going to be like me because I never let anybody watch my kids or touch my kids. And I'm so worried that they're going to be like me. Yeah, that's a guy. No, they went everywhere with me.

I never had a nanny. I never had someone who drove my kids to school. Wow. So when I see, and by the way, that's not to shame anybody who does do that. Now, you know, people are working. There's working moms. I get all that. But, like, I was, honestly, I was just too OCD and too afraid.

My anxiety didn't allow me to have anyone help me. But I'm so scared they're going to be like that and not let me take the baby. They will. They will. I hope so. Well, I think because you're so hands-on and they know you can handle it, like, you know, then they'll be more inclined to do it. Like, if I leave my kids with my dad, I think he will forget.

like that they're even there. That, me too. I know he will forget. I'm so, I worry, I'm already worried about how they're going to be as moms, even though I know they're going to be amazing moms. But I see, like, I used to go into the park with my kids. I loved it. And, you know, I'm actually an introvert.

So for me to go into the park with my baby alone, you know, the two of us on a blanket and bring like a picnic and toys and talk, I wasn't looking at social media. Yeah. I was only playing with my children and, like, having that one-on-one time with them. And it was such a beautiful time. And I feel like that it really, you know, affected who they became as, you know, children and adults. And now I'm looking at these people and they're like, the stroller is closed all the way. They don't even realize the blanket's covering the baby's face.

They're scrolling looking to Instagram. They're wheeling there's a stroller. I'm like, pay attention. Like, you need to talk to your child and, like, teach your child and, like, you know, communicate with them. I'm screaming. Get the EMF away from the baby's head. The baby's skull is way thinner than a human school. You cannot put the phone by the baby's head.

I can't go down this rabbit hole with you again. Kyle is agree a different way. She's agreeing. It's when I try when I'm with my kids to get off my phone, I think it's important. She's right. It's really important. I agree with that. But back to what you said about the baby weight, you will never look back and think, oh, my God.

I mean, when I look back and think I can't believe I was insecure about that. It's so stupid. I see these women and they have like some extra weight on them from having a baby and they look so beautiful. I'm like, why do that to yourself? I don't feel beautiful. I don't feel beautiful with 60 pounds on me. I just, you don't. You don't.

you look back one day you're going to think why did I feel like that okay maybe I mean listen I know you feel like this in the moment but I'm just telling you I mean and you're so gorgeous what I was always told my kids and you know and myself too that when I feel insecure about being in a bathing suit or something like one day we're going to wish we look like this yeah you're right you're right great advice okay so I have been a fan of you pre-house wives thank you for that yes there's there there there's a whole career that happened little house on the prairie My first TV series, yeah. Okay.

And also I just finished Melissa Gilbert's book. And then I think she actually wrote about working with you. I want to say she did. Yeah, I'm sure because I started that series when I was five years old. Wow. So little. And then you also were, I saw you, this is so random. I remember seeing you grown up on like an E true Hollywood special for Paris.

And I remember looking at you and being like, she's so beautiful. And I kind of like followed you. I don't know how. And then you appeared on Housewives. And I was so excited. That interview actually led to the Housewives. And it was weird because, you know, like you said, I started out as a child actor since I'm little. I mean, my first TV series, I was five, but I'd already been working before that even.

So I was like three and four. And then I went on to do movies from there. You know, my first movie was at five years old. And I did like scary movies Halloween when I was seven. Halloween. Started like, you know. Did you know she's a little girl in Halloween? I didn't realize that, but I'm still seeing the movie.

million times. And now we've got to like go back and look at it. And Kim was in the Witch Mountain one. Escape to which mountain. So I'd done that my whole life. And, you know, that was my career. And I feel like some people maybe, some people, a lot of people do realize that, but some people don't realize that too. Wait, why am I saying this? Why do we get honest? You're just, we're just talking about how you're pre-housewives. And also, another thing I find so interesting about you is your mother was such a strong force. It seems like. She was. She seems like she had a real personality. She was really strong, really tough.

Aries, Irish, I mean, fire across the board. And when I look back now, like she was a single mom. You know, she and my father were separated when I was like three years old or something. And she had a lot of pressure on her with her daughter. So, you know, she had to be tough and she didn't want us to ever, you know, be scared. And she wants to be independent. So she was trying to be a good role model. to us and doing that. She was extra, extra tough, which I don't know if it really helped.

You guys all have this funny personality. Is that from her? My mom was really funny. Okay. Yes. Yeah. You said on the show that Kathy was like, would set up a store. You have to tell this story. So when we were little, Kathy was the oldest. So when she was like, say, 15, Kim was 10, I was five. And my mom would let Kim and I have our unemployment checks when we are, when our shows were on hiatus. And we would go and like get our little unemployment checks. When I think back to that is really weird. I like, I remember the man at like the candy stand at the unemployment place. So Kathy knew that we would have

cash. And Kathy was like always wanting to buy things and spend money. So she would set up a store in the house. And she would go around the house and my mom collected like, you know, like Baccaraw and Lelik and all these little things that we were not allowed to touch. And she would say, you know, there's a sale starting in 10 minutes. And Kim would go and she had lifted up the corner of the carpet and hit her money under the carpet. And it was lined up. And Kim would like wash it and iron it. Oh, no, that's not good. But so she would get the money and then we'd go to the sale. And we would buy all these things that were so excited. We would get to buy and keep. And then my mom, of course, would come in and scream who took all this one in the living room and take it all back. But by then,

Kathy had already spent all the money. So she actually took the money from you and then and spent it in other places. Oh, yeah. Yes. I mean, this is like, these are big personalities for kids to have to be around your mom must have had a big personality. She had a very big personality. And then Kim and I had a car washing business. Okay. That even though we were on TV series, we didn't think about that at the time. Like, we're like rolling up these people's homes.

Like, do you want us to wash your car for $5? They're like, aren't you the girl? Yeah, but we weren't thinking about that because we didn't think about being on television. You know, we just thought we were like, you know, we just wanted to be normal people. And we would like wash their cars and leave the soap on and like get in trouble for the neighbors. So did your mother push you into acting or did you, was that a pursuit of your own? No, my mom actually did, and I'm actually really grateful she did, because my mom studied the Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York. Okay.

And then she was also a very young mom. And then, you know, she was wheeling Kathy in a stroller through New York City. That's where they all are from. And people were stopping her on the street. She's so beautiful. She's so beautiful. She should be modeling. So my mom put Kathy in modeling, and then it became commercials.

And then Kim came along. And then it was the same with Kim. And then Kim did like a carpet commercial crawling on the carpet six months old. Wow. So my mom was kind of living by Kerosy. to her kids and moved everyone to Hollywood. She was like the original Chris Jenner. Yeah, literally.

And Chris and my mom were very close, actually. Oh, I didn't know that. Then I was born, you know, in L.A., and then my mom was like, well, Kyle's the shy one. And I don't want her to be left out. Her sisters are, you know, on these TV shows as Kathy was also acting. So did it push you out of your comfort zone to not be shy? It did. My mom was two things.

It was she didn't want me to be left out because my sisters were working like that. And because I was shy, she thought it would help me overcome. my shyness. But I thought every audition was a doctor's office. So I would have a panic attack on top of being shy. Oh my gosh. And I'm not really sure why. I think they had a white jacket on the first one or something. They didn't like traumatized. And you like remember it being feeling like a doctor's office. When you got on E for that special, how did housewives approach you from that? Oh, right. That's how that question started this whole thing. So that's the ADHD that runs in my family coming up. He gets it. Oh, she's a self-diagnosed. She's going. So yeah, they ask me,

to do that interview and then it became like the, you know, somehow I became the spokesperson for our family because Kathy like, you know, felt uncomfortable to talk and whatever, so she said, can you talk to? What a Greta von Susseran, like Barbara Walters. I was always the one talking to people. You were good at it. I was good at it. I was comfortable and I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I just, then I ended up in that role and then I did that, you to Hollywood story about Paris and Nikki, actually. And then someone saw it casting person from the real house at Beverly Hills and they reached out. And I was like, I don't want to do reality television. I'm an actress and I don't want to do that. And I had taken some time off because Portia was just born. That's right.

She had just been born. Just been born. So what makes you decide to pull the trigger on real housewives? Do you watch the OC one? Well, I started watching because it was on hold because they kept saying we don't have a green light yet. Okay. And in the meantime, do you have any friends? and I'm like putting them together like a little group helping them. And like while I was waiting to hear if we got greenlit because they didn't think if you have OC, why do you need Beverly Hills? And I was like, well, if you have New York, why do you need New Jersey? Hello?

Right. There's a big difference here. Big difference. So I started watching some of the shows. But I was like, oh, that's different for them. I wouldn't be fighting with anybody. I'm just going to be home with my kids and playing and having fun. And my kids are so cute.

Who wouldn't want to see my kids? I did not know what I was getting myself into. If you did know what you were getting yourself into, like say you now is giving you advice then, what would you say? I would still have done it. You would? Yes. I mean, there's been times, of course, I would probably give you a different answer, but sitting here today, yes.

I mean, I would do it again. So even though through all the challenges and all the ups and downs and all the fights, if you could, you still just, there's something about it that you just love. I mean, I wouldn't say there's something about it that I just love. I appreciate and I acknowledge that. things that it has done for me. Yeah. It's opened a lot of doors, you know, for me, you know, for producing. I just started my production company, House of 18, and, you know, that was how I was able to produce American woman, and I have two shows in development right now, and two others that

are about to go into development. So that all happened because of the housewives. And people literally would say, oh, you know, they want to meet you because they're a fan. And then I'd meet them, and tell them stories. I'm like, oh, we want to make that show. And I was like, oh, this is how I'm going to do this. I can come up with my ideas and like sell a show if they want to meet and talk, you know, because they're a fan, then I'm going to turn this into something else because I don't want to be doing this forever. And that's what I love to do is to create. You know, I've talked to a lot of people off air because we have similar makeup, hair, Chris and Karina. Corrine and Chris right here. Yes. That's why we look like clones today. I know. We look like clones. Can you tell you have the same

makeup and hair? Yes. But I talk to a lot of them and they just, say the nicest things about you. And they said, I've heard this from multiple people, that when you go to BravoCon, you are like Oprah. Like, if you're like the most famous housewife out of everyone. And I've heard this not just from them, from multiple people, that people go. It goes nuts when you go there. Crazy. What is it? I mean, I know my own opinion, but what do you think it is that makes people go so wild for you like you're like this rock star? I mean, it is so strange, I have to say, going to something like that. But I think, well, first of all, I'm the longest running, consecutive running housewife

and the history of the whole franchise of all across the board. Okay. So I've been there the longest. And I've never left. And I've never been put on pause or fired. So 15 straight, no breaks, no pause. I've never called in sick. I've never canceled an interview.

I've never not shown up last season. Not this season, I walked off in the middle filming. It was like goodbye. But other than that, that was my, you know. I think honestly is, you know, a lot of comedians who like their stick is to make fun of us or impersonate us, they will always say to me, you're so difficult to do because you're actually a real person. And, you know, I think a lot of, I mean, not just, you know, shade anybody, which because what I'm about to say may sound like a shade, but it's also what makes them great TV. But there's like, they're caricatures. They're like, they're characters.

They really are. This is the headline of this. I know. Kyle Richards calls every housewife a cartoon character. You know, that's what will happen. You know, of course, that's what's going to happen. But a lot of these people I'm saying are like caricatures. I adore.

But, you know, like I said, it makes great TV. But I am actually in spite of doing what I do. I'm a very normal real person. Yeah. And I think, I don't know, maybe that's why I have no idea. Well, it seems like, I mean, the only way you've probably been able to sustain that long and that consistently is by being yourself. We talk about it even in the context of this show, because we've done it for a long time.

It's a lot easier to just show up and just be who you are and just talk as opposed to trying to, like, curate a person or experience. experience. I think the people that do that, it starts to fall apart over time. And I see that all the time. Yeah, I'm sure. And when I see that, I'm just like, oh, God, I can't. You know, I mean, I'm willing to make mistakes. And, you know, because that's part, I mean, it's life. You know, if I'm being real, I'm going to have great moments. I'm going to have bad moments. But when I see someone coming in with an agenda. Yeah. And this persona they want to project. And I mean, I just see right through that. It is painful for me. to sit through. You know, I can tell when you find it painful. Do you know as a viewer? I can tell I'll tell you all fair. I can tell when you can't as a viewer because I feel like I know you. And I think that as a viewer, the reason and I'm a house vice practitioner is because I think people see themselves in you. And what I mean by that is like we've all had drama with our sister.

we've all had stuff with our significant other. You're a mother. It's very easy for me to pull moments throughout all the seasons you've done where I can relate to it. Right. That's what I think it is. I think it's being relatable. Yes, I think people, I do hear that a lot. Yeah.

I don't know. I think that that probably has a lot to do with it. And I think when Beverly Hills first started, they thought this is going to be the most fake, phony of all the franchise. And all of a sudden, they're like, wow, these are real people with actual real problems. I mean, season one, it was, you know, it was stuff with my sister and dealing with her alcoholism and all that that was, you know, we were trying to keep under wraps. And then it was Camille with her divorce and then what Taylor was going through. And, you know, people expected us to be fake and all of a sudden like, oh, these are actually real people. Right.

But since then, you know, I watched people come in pretending to do certain businesses and trying just, just the facade. I can't. And I'm not going to be mean, contrary to what people may like to say, you know, I'm not, I'm not a mean person. I will never hit below the bell. The things I could say that are going through my mind sometimes, which I'm sure people wish I would say, but I'm not there to hurt anybody or ruin their businesses or, you know, their marriages or anything like that.

But I'm like, give me a break, but I will have to call you out if you're being an asshole. We can see it on your face. You could say what you were thinking here on the show. Nobody will pick it up. All you have to do is watch the show. You could see it. If you could see it on your face that you're like, oh my God.

Certain scenes. Yeah, I just can't. I just can't. I mean, sometimes that is laugh. I'm like, I mean, I just, I don't know. They're just coming on there to, it's different now. There's people coming on to start a business.

And I was there just showing, I was just like, this is my life. I wasn't, not there selling anything. I'm not plugging anything. I'm just like living. And then people come in and like, oh, you know, they've watched all these years and they're fans of the show. Right. And it makes them interact. I couldn't do it.

I could never do housewives because I know the game. Like, what's the percentage, what is the percentage you think of people who come on with the intention to, like, build a platform or business that actually have success versus the ones that kind of come and just like crash and burn and fizzle out by doing the percentage i'm going to say well the crash and burn is probably not that high i'm going to go with 30 percent but the 70 percent their businesses don't necessarily always do well there's you tell right away if it's going to be a crash and burn oh yeah yeah yeah well because i think if your your sole intention is to just like extract that kind of value well also not providing good stable tell you it's it's you

You will never last if you're not being yourself. I think Bethany did well with that. You saw her build the business. Exactly. That's why I think everyone wants to build like something like she's done, but you watched her build the business in front of you and you watched her struggle. So you were invested as an audience.

The real question is how many of the husbands come through unscathed? I feel like a lot of these husbands, they just get nailed. Well, I can tell you, I inadvertently, I was not trying to, you know, like for what I do as an actor or whatever. There was nothing I could really promote because in the beginning, the show was so different. I'm getting to the husband part. Sorry with the 80s. No, no, no, go ahead. That, you know, we weren't supposed to acknowledge. We were just like, housewives. They didn't really want me to talk about the fact that was an actor, and, you know,

so it was like weird. But, so I felt like, you know, I can't promote that. But, you know, we were starting the agency, and they saw the struggle. And the reason it became a storyline is because of the situation with my family and that, you know, what it caused and created. Otherwise, it would never probably even been covered. So, I mean, it's not lost on me that that, you know, When we started the agency, it was one office on South Beverly Drive with five agents. And Farah and Maricio were two of those. I didn't know that. Yes.

And now there's over 150 offices all over the world, Europe everywhere. And, you know, the brand recognition is huge. So there's, you know. I did not know that. Yeah. So that's like a silent killer assassin. Well, Misa's been on here. I mean, like the size and scale what he's accomplished is pretty phenomenal.

There's always a woman, though, behind the man. You remind him out. I will say this. He acknowledges that too, which is nice, too, because he does acknowledge that. I feel like he's. No, when he came on here, too, he acknowledged that and said that it was basically you guys doing it together. Well, it started. We were, you know, we had no money and we didn't have help or anything, like I said.

So we just, he came home one day. I don't know if he's told us. I think he does talk about this in his book. And he had been fired. He was in the clothing business. And he had lost his job. And I could tell he had been crying. And it just crushed.

me and it was right before Christmas and he had no money and I was like we needed money to buy Christmas presents for our kids and you know the babies elected was six months old and fair I was seven so I said why don't we go and you know hire a babysitter once a week and we'll go get our real estate license together and that's what we did we went to Santa Monica College and got a real estate license together and it was the best thing that ever happened in being fired that day and that's how this and then I would call him like in this two-bedroom condo with now three kids and I'd be like, where are you?

And he'd say, I'm at the golf course because there's like nothing going on. I should find something. I was literally a devil. I'd be like, I am not going to live in a two-bedroom apartment for the rest of my life with three kids. I mean, Sophia was in our room in a bassinet. And he's like, there was nothing going on. I'm like, I don't care.

Find something. And I was like, I need a house. I need to get out of here. So, yeah, you know, we have regular normal struggles, I think. What was the turning point where you guys started to see? momentum with the agency where he was not on the golf course? Well, I mean, by the way, he turned that around real quick. He was just, he was a kid at this one. He was 25, what I'm talking about. Wow. So, yes, 25 years old. So he quickly became the number one agent at Kathy, my sister,

Kathy, my brother and all Rick's real estate company. He became number one. And he would win, you know, number one every year at that holiday party. He would win the trip, the watch, the whatever, everything. And yeah, that's how it all started. So. And when does he come to you and say, I want to open my own brokerage. Is it a brokerage? Is that the right word? I think so. Okay.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. When did he decide to open the agency? So, well, it was first we wanted to be partners with, you know, Kathy and Rick. They, you know, I shouldn't say they, but like, that didn't work out. Let's just say. That's where the whole issue started.

But we wanted just to be partners. And I should say he. Because even though I'm obviously part owner because it's my, you know, it's our company together. I very much like he runs that whole show. So he wanted to be a partner with Rick and it didn't end up working out. So then he said, I can't work for someone forever. You know, and obviously we had our own kids and we didn't want to be under somebody for the rest of our lives. So we decided to branch out on our own, you know, what happens.

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and then we needed a bigger space. Like, clearly we can't stay in this little space on South Beverly Drive. Then we needed a bigger space. And then, oh, you know, now we need more and more, and people kept coming and coming and coming. And then, you know, honestly, with the, with the best agents there was in town coming, and then with the recognition from the show, like, more people wanted to join. It became like, and they just created this culture than the agency where it was like the cool spot to work and be. Is that how we met Farah? Because, you know, Farah, she helped us with Melissa get a touch when we moved to Texas,

but then she sold a condo for us. But is that how we met Farah? I met Farah because Farah reached out to me on Instagram and said she loved my blog. And I was like, that's a long time ago. That was a long time ago. And then I, Farah and I went to Dan Tanas and had the Nikki Hilton salad, which is so funny. So funny. And I told her, I was like, your mom needs to get.

on at the time it was called Reward Style. I was like, tell your mom to get on Reward Style because I would see your outfits on Beverly Hills and then I would see other people monetizing off your outfits. Yes. So like I would see like saying, I'm still not good about this by the way. I got to tell you off air. I would see like other sites putting like your sweater that you're wearing and all your stuff, your iPads, all the things. And I was like buying your iPads. And then like, but you wouldn't get the commission. And I would repost those people's stories for them. And I was like, I'm not making. anything off this, but whatever. It's like 20,000 clicks they're making like, I know.

Okay, so I was like, your mom has to get on reward style. Anyways, that's kind of how we started becoming friends and then it just, we've just been friends. Because, well, the reason I ask is it was, I think in the earlier days of the agency and it was doing, it had a footprint and it was doing well, but like not nearly what it's doing now. And it was like her and a few other people that we know over here locally, but it was like, I think it was just the one office maybe. Well, Farah, you know, she's, I mean, she is incredibly, I mean, she is incredibly, I mean, I'm sure you know this. She's very, very smart, but I have to take a moment to brag.

You know, she graduated. She went to NYU and then into USC, and she graduated Magna Cum Laude. She's really brilliant. She's an incredible writer, too, which is why she loves to read, you know, blogs and things like that. But she immediately, people would love to say because she's our daughter. She works so hard. Oh, she's like one of the more self-motivated people that I've met. Unbelievable.

The people that stopped me on the street about her, you know, as an agent. and it just I'm always like I'm so proud you know I mean you should be proud of her she's and she she is so down to earth from so many other of the people I've met in L.A because I was new to L.A. I was from San Diego she's so down to earth and what you see is what you get. Well I think especially because of the profile of the family she comes from right like you don't she doesn't lead with that I guess that's what I'm saying well you know she even though you know obviously her dad you know successful in her life. money and then when I married Maricio she has two amazing dads by the way to be clear two amazing

dads so but when Mo and I first got married we didn't have any money like she that's very much ingrained in her and we would tell her you know one day we're going to have a house but we have to have enough cushions in the bank that's what we would say to her we have enough cushions like because we could buy the house we don't have money in the bank then so she would always say you know when how many more cushions do we need more cushions do we need so she was always thinking like that You know, like we have to work hard and, like, put our money away and save our cushions to buy a house. And she'd say, one day, I'm going to have my own room. I don't have to share.

And I can turn up my little lamp next to my bed. And she's always been, like, determined to, like, work hard. And, you know, so I'm really, I'm grateful that she has that because by the time we got to Portia, our life was very different. She is, she is a hard worker. So when you're doing housewives and you're expecting one thing and then it starts to get very personal and very, I would say, a great. aggressive really quickly. What's going through your head? Are you like, this is great?

Stay on the course. You're like, I could get the hell out of here. Oh, my gosh. Over the years, there's been so many different things where I've been like, this is not what I was expecting. I mean, everything from season one, like you just said to now. And I think in the beginning, you know, when I had the big blow up with my sister Kim in season one,

that was, there was so much stuff, you know, going on off camera that I couldn't say on camera and I would never say. And I did not expect to be pushed. to that limit, even though, you know, anyway. It was a lot, you know, going through that with my sister Kim and everything. But of course, then I'm like, this is just too much, you know. And I remember them coming to me and saying, we're going to show you this. We're going to come to your house and show this to you.

And I was respectful. Yeah. I mean, the reduction company and Alex Spaskin, who's our executive producer, you know, they're not like the other shows I know because I've talked to the other franchises and our production. people and producers run things very differently. And they came and they sat with us and, you know, one of the producers even, like, cried with me.

But, of course, those moments, I'm like, this is too much. And I can't explain everything because it's, you know, you can't, like, certain family things, you just can't share and explain. Were they showing it to you to kind of brace you for what they were going to release or to kind of get your input on what they could release? No, no, we don't have that often. Yeah, so they were like, this is what's coming and one.

Right. And they felt bad, but it was like, it's literally was a season finale. I saw it ended. And it's like, I mean, I learned real quickly that, you know, you don't get to choose what you want Joan and what you don't, what you do and don't want Joan. But then even now, it's like, it's just too much because what happens is when people start to know your life and, you know, they'll send me a screenshot and say like, oh, I saw you had this shampoo in your shower. And you're like, oh, what is in the background? I didn't even know. Or I go to get like a lip gloss and the camera's like this.

Like, hold on. Let me see what's in my drawer. My God. Oh, you're stressing me out. because they are up in your business. And, you know, so sometimes the audience, which, by the way, they're amazing, the fans are very passionate. They're like sports fans. But sometimes it's like, my God, they really feel you owe them everything.

And I'm like, where do you draw the line? Where do you draw the line? Because, you know, like a lot of the girls in the show, they'll keep like people that are dating, private off camera and they don't want to talk about it. And we all just kind of know we don't say anything. but then all of a sudden the rules are different you know all of a sudden you're like wait a minute no one here has shown and talked about so it can be very invasive

and the audience does think you signed up for this is what you hear you signed up for this do you want to see me going to the bathroom showering having sex too like where do we draw the line there's something with the platform that you're on that I think has people feeling more entitled than they would with like except for example we do this show we don't get that kind of reaction

people like people probably you know they want to know certain things but they don't feel like they have a say, I don't think, and like how we live. But with you, it's like you've put yourself out. So now we get to comment on everything, no matter how invasive. But you're right. Do you want to see the colonoscopy? It's like, it's like you have to set your own. They do. They do. They want to see. They do want to see it. But there's, what I'm saying is there's like an unspoken maybe rule that's like if you sign up for that, then now we are entitled to be as invasive as we want to be. There's 100% the mindset. And then also there's sort of this sort like, I think,

because of what we represent, like, money and wealth and the sort of, like, you know, it's opulence that you're like, screw you. Too bad you have this problem. Not a lot of sympathy. Yeah, there's no sympathy for you. So you get a lot of that. And, you know, some days I'm like, you know, like, it's very overwhelming, you know, like, guess what?

I also have really bad days. I have sad days. Some days, like I feel sorry for myself. I also feel sorry for myself sometimes, too, on certain days if life gets hard. Honest. Does it rattle you at this point, or it's been. so long and you've dealt with it for so many years that it's it doesn't rattle me anymore but it it I feel disheartened sometimes when I seek some comments and I'm like I mean honestly everything

the world today makes you feel like that I'm just like what are we living in but I don't I'm not effective I don't even I used to like block people and like I don't even care say your rude thing I don't care you want to say I'm ugly I'm stupid they hope I'm fired whatever it is you know I I learned a long time ago that all the love like we just said at bravo con of like ah my and then all the hate neither one of it really means anything Valerie burtonelli came on the show yesterday and she said that too and i have found the most evolved people in this business you cannot read the positive or the negative you said don't read the good or the bad you can't read it you're not you're not so amazing i remember my best friend lorine who's passed away you know she's my best friends as i'm seven

years old and people come up and be like oh my god and say you know they go over the top and she's like, why are the acting like that? I'm like, and she would joke at you. Like, she's not so amazing. Calm down. And you know, we just, we were recently speaking to your niece who like, I mean, Paris used to get nailed in the, like, so bad. Like, maybe worse.

Like, probably top five worse than anyone, right? Like, if you could name five people that got nailed the most, like she's probably in that five or ten. Brittany, Lindsay, Paris, that trio that you saw on that famous photo. Yeah. I don't know how those girls survived. Yeah. Yeah.

But we were talking about this a little bit with her. And it's just like, at some point you just got to. block it off. I mean, I don't think people can get away with what they used to get away with anymore in the way that they used to write about those girls. I think there's an experience stretching them. In the comments they can. Publicly they couldn't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The publications couldn't. Or like, you know, late night talk shows are getting called out for what they said to these girls. But like the comments and things like that. But I think about those three girls specifically all the time, Lindsay, Paris, Brittany. Yeah. Because the bullying and the abuse that these young girls,

girls endured at such a young age. It literally could make me like get emotional. It was so mean. It was so cruel. And I would see these things about Paris. We get so mad. Like how do people talk to these people like this? And everything was alive. Everything was assumed and, you know, it was so maddening. And like to me, I was a little kid when she was born. To me, Paris was like my little baby sister, even though she's my niece. And I was like, how do these girls get through that? How did they survive that? And if they can do that, and I'm the age I am, I can survive this too. It's wild. I mean, they've got to, like, put some laws or parameters or something around it.

It seems to me that the more hate you get, the more resilience you build, though, and you almost become unaffected by it and almost indifferent. Just become desensitized. We're just totally flatlined. Does that happen? We're just like, okay, you want to be needed. It's like, what else can you say? Right. I've heard it all. You put your marriage out on screen and everyone fell in love with you guys as a couple. And you guys were married and I think this is very important to say for 30 years, right? 30 years. It's a long time. I know. I mean, I might be done after 30 years. It's a long time.

I joke the last time I saw Maricio, I joked and I said, do you get a new bracelet for every year? He likes those bracelets in the summer. Oh my God. His stack? His midlife crisis stack. I just saw someone call out. I'm like, oh my God. By the way, I mean, that's a good brand name. Midlife crisis stack. Yeah. I'm like what? I'm so. funny because like people just love to come up with all of these things but yes I mean it is a long time to be married and it's a long time to be married and for a long time you know it was one of the things I was most proud of and you guys you guys are not divorced you call it a what it says on here I do there's a name for there's a name I don't know where you got that from it's from the internet

because I didn't come up with any okay hold on let me this is what we didn't do the consciously uncoupling post separation post separation is that right well we're not legally separated but we're we just we don't live together but we haven't done any people paperwork. How have you guys managed... We talk about this all the time. Paperwork's kind of a painting. You might as well just... There's a lot of complications, especially with what you guys have built. I would say just like maybe just keep it simple.

If we decide to do a separation, it's going to be a similar vibe. Let's just keep it tight, you know? There's so much to undo. It's like a ball of yarn. Well, yeah. And then I see the other people. It doesn't seem like a strategic business move if we had to uncouple. Yeah, you just kind of just let it... Uncouple. Yeah. Let's just keep it tight so we don't have to go through all that. Well, there's so many people now also on the show this season.

You know, I'm seeing like, what do we're, it's going through and, you know, Rachel Zoe is, you know, filed for divorce. And I mean, everyone just does it their own way. Everyone does it differently. It just depends. Like, you guys get along well, you know, then you're not, hopefully you can do it amicably and not hurt, you know, your children, you know, and this is going to be the next headline. Kyle Richards says that have someone, these women are hurting their children.

That's not what I'm trying to say. Every separation is different. Every divorce is different. Every relationship is different. And, you know, this is what? working for us so far, and I say so far, because obviously we're not going to stay in this gray area. But how have you guys managed to do it so gracefully? Because he came on our show, and I don't know if you heard the show, but he was really eloquent in the way he talked about you. And I feel like

even when you guys are on the show, you can feel it's graceful. Well, it feels like you guys still have a high respect for each other. Yeah. Listen, I mean, you don't love someone that long and have that kind of relationship with them and just disappears. Like, I mean, unless, one of them is a complete asshole and piece of shit, then I guess that would disappear. You know, we built this beautiful life together, this beautiful family. And, yeah, I just don't, I mean, I have a lot of respect for him and I have a lot of love for him. So, and vice versa. So there's just been no reason to fight and not, we haven't had somebody, you know, a third party pushing us to, you know, separate or finally.

So we've just been doing it on our own terms in our own time. Will you and Maricio ever get back together? A million dollar question. What do you think? I mean, I've asked that all the time by everybody. And I mean, listen, like I said, we will not always stay in this gray area. And there has been more talks about that as of recently, I will say. But, you know, I'm not like TBD.

Well, I mean, listen, the longer things go on like this, it seems harder, you know, to think about. How do you come back from this? More normal it feels. Right. Yeah, exactly. and kind of settling into this, but I think both of us is just hard to accept or acknowledge because it is such a big part of our identities, you know, being married so long,

but we've kept it so normal with our family. And I could say, you know, for the kids, it's not just for them, it's for us too, and my kids are, for the most part, adults. Well, I imagine there's like the other layer, which is you guys are going through a lot of this publicly, which I'm sure is not the easiest thing. Because, again, everybody has a comment and a perspective,

right? And everybody feels they're entitled to tell you guys what to do. Oh, everybody. Everybody. And they're like, he's going to screw you. And you need to do this. You do that. And I'm like, okay, okay, okay. You do you. I know, I appreciate your advice. I know where it's coming from from your own past experiences. They're projecting. They're projecting. They're projecting. One thing that I want to know as a mother of three is how you have managed to still have this tight-knit family into their 20s and 30s. I really admire that. What are some things that you you guys do? Like, is it weekly family dinner? Like, what are the things? You guys travel together? Well, first of all, I always say about parenting, like you get out of your kids, what you put into them. And since our babies, like I said, I was the mom that had, you know, the baby strapped

on me at all the times. And we did the shared family bed, which probably wasn't the best thing in the world. Don't recommend, but it worked for the kids. We're still doing it. Yeah, we did that for long time. Yeah, exactly. She sent me this video the other day of a bed that's like as wide as this table. I was like, I was like, I just. I was like, I just. I guess he's sold any more of his house or something. He's like, he has a customized bed where all the kids would sleep in. I was like, oh, great, this is just what we need. This is just what we need.

But you guys have... 20-foot-long bed so we can never ever be longed. You guys have girls, all girls, right? All girls. Okay, like, you can't have our grown sons laying in bed with it. Like, they need to go off. Living with his mom for the rest of his life? At some point, they need to go off and be, you know, men that can not be...

It's hard. It's hard to... Sophia is almost six feet. Sophia's five or ten. And she would like get in bed with us. I'm like, you've got Sophia there. We've got another one day. They've got dogs and kids.

The bracelets? How didn't you put the fucking bracelets? You've got to get all 40 of those. I don't care what anyone says. I'm just going to say this and maybe some of the moms or dads will get mad. Like you don't want to have a 10, 12 year old boy laying in sleeping mom and dad. You haven't met me. No.

You haven't met me. I'll be like, get on mommy's lap. I put him under my shirt like I'm still pregnant with it. What if you met me and I was, you know, like, hey, I just got done sleep with my mom like four years ago. It's not about you. No, no, no. You had a hard enough time just like having a mother-in-law come in. Like that's the time. Let alone like, you're not mess up our kids. What are what are you what are the things that you do? Like what are the things like the mission statement of your family? I mean, yes, we do everything together. We are traveling together.

We do that a lot. And we used to say that, you know, we like to have them like this is like out of touch. But I'm just going to say it anyway. Like when we would go on a boat, we loved because they couldn't escape. So they couldn't leave for like breakfast lunch or dinner. They're literally like you can't go anywhere. So we have you lock down for two weeks. And it's breakfast lunch and dinner together. We need our books together.

And we love that. Oh, yeah. That was a whole time that we saw you guys on the boat. Oh, you remember that? Yeah, I do. Yeah. We were on yacht stalkers. There's an app called yacht stocker.

Really? You were stalking us? Mm-hmm. This is a relatable conversation. Yes. Very relatable. But no, what I do is like we do have family dinners. We go out dinner, we have dinner at home, we have game night at home, we have movie night at home.

And, you know, my girls are my best friends. They are my favorite people in the world to spend my time with. And I don't, not ever, not one time when I have all four together, does it ever pass me that I think to myself, I cannot believe that all four of these intelligent, beautiful, kind, funny, girls, women are mine. And yeah, don't tell me, oh, they're not yours. We're just an incubator. No, no, no, they're mine.

They are all mine. I made them. I carried them. And I look and I'm just like, I can't believe it. You know, God is good. God really, you know, did me right. And I just cannot believe that these incredible people are like, mine, I get to hang out with all the time.

You really do have four solid children. From what I can see. I mean, I know one of them. Well, and it's not easy in this city. No, it's not easy. It's not easy in this city. You've managed to raise them in a really humble way. Is there a takeaway for the audience there?

Well, you know, like I said, when Mom and our first married, we didn't have it. So Alexia and Farah especially saw us, like, you know, building and, you know, working really hard. And then as we started to be more successful and make more money, but then they just saw us both working really hard all the time. And at first I had this sort of guilt because I had the kind of mindset of like stay-at-home mom all the time. And then I was feeling guilty that I would go to work with Portia. And then this girl I knew said to me from school and mom at school said, well, why do you feel guilty? Don't you want your daughters to see working? Is that a good example?

And I was like, oh, oh, okay. Yeah, you're right. So, you know, they've seen out hard that Mo and I have worked for what we have because we didn't have help from anybody. And so I think that helps in having it be a conversation. And, you know, they were not the girls that, like, got expensive handbags when they were, you know, 15 and 16 and got to spend whatever they want. They had to really, you know, you know, I would give them a present here and there when they got straight A's and things like that. And it's open conversation because of where we live and what we do that we've had to make it like that. So, you know, I feel proud of the fact that they are down to earth.

that sense, even though they have nice things and they come from what they come from. How would you manage if there was other friends or kids at the school that were maybe living differently and getting access to all those things? What was the conversation look like to kind of ground your kids? Well, this is kind of interesting because I saw a friend at Porsche's just got, oh, I shouldn't be saying this on here, but she got a G-wagon for her 16th birthday. And I was like, whoa, wow. And I was like, I cannot believe. She got a G-wagon for 16th birthday. And she said, well, why did you guys buy me? My car then.

What was her car again? Her car is the Porsche McCann. Okay. So it's not nearly as expensive as G-Wagon. But it's a very nice car. And it's the nicest of the four daughters for his cars. But that was Mo. And he was like, she's, her name is Porsche, and she needs to have a Porsche.

I was like, okay. But so then she, like, she like, push back. Well, you did that. So why did you think? I'm like, no, I'm not judging. I was saying, and she's like, no, it felt like you were judging. And, you know, I have a very nice car. And I work really hard at my school.

And you thought I deserved it. I was like, okay, okay. So, you know, there's people that have a lot more than my kids and people have a lot less and that's something that we talk about all the time too. That's a good, like a good way to look at it. There's people that have a lot less and there's people that have a lot more. It gives you context. They're very aware of that too. So that's the thing, you know, and she said like, oh, I felt a little bit uncomfortable, you know, I could tell she was uncomfortable certain situations that we did give her that car. So, you know, that's all a Mo. You know what? Let's just blame most problems. I am dying to ask you about your sobriety. You've been sober for four years.

Almost. In July, July 15th, that's four years. And were you just sick of being hung over? Like, what was the reason that you decided? No, because I wasn't even a big drinker. Of course, when I would go out with my friends or to a party, I would have, you know, margaritas. When you do the splits. And if you haven't seen Kyle do the splits, go Google it. Yeah, unfortunately, I feel like too many people have seen me do the splits. But also, you know, dinner and have a baths of wine or a couple glasses of wine. but it was a combination of things. You know, I am someone who, like, after I'd have a few drinks the next day, I would wake up and feel depressed. Like, I just felt down.

What do they call it a... Melancholy? Like... No, it was like a... Anxiety. There we go. Hanziety. Thank you, Karina.

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Listen, not drinking is a superpower. It is a superpower. I bet you feel fantastic. I feel so good. Then you have your wits about you too. Oh yeah. And the next day when they're saying things, I'm like, that's not what happened.

Let me tell you because I was the only one not drinking last night. So they don't remember exactly how the story went. Well, I mean, in times in my life, I see this happen with people. I'm not saying on my show necessarily because honestly, our show, they're not a lot of big drinkers. You're right. They're really not. The biggest drinkers I'm going to say is New York. I'm going to agree with that.

I've seen some really big drinkers on New York. And I'm just like, oh, my God, that is a, that's a lot. You know, I just did the ultimate girl's trip. Yes. Tell us about that. Give us a little juice on that. Well, I was like, why would I do this when I'm like off not shooting the housewives? But it was the OG one.

So I feel like I have to do this. I've been, you know, they're this long on the show. So it was Vicky from O.C. Let me go through this. I don't want to forget anybody, God forbid. It was Luann from New York. Love. Portia from Atlanta. Teresa from New Jersey. Giselle from Potomac. And then Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake. And it was just a lot of personalities. And I haven't seen all the shows up to date, but so many personalities and like so much going on. Really overwhelming. But what I realize is like some of them, like we would stop at these different cities and we'd mean other. all the other houses that come in from the franchises.

And I saw, like, some big blowout fights happen. Hopefully the cameras captured it. Oh, they did. But I was like, these people are hardcore. Like, we are monks in Beverly Hills guys. The real houses of Beverly Hills are monks at this point. And I was like, how, I would kill somebody. I heard someone say something about someone's kid.

And then they were calling someone of, I don't even, I can't even say other things because I don't know what would be shown. I won't be shown. and I don't want to get in trouble. But do you feel like the new franchises, they kind of got to enter in with a step up in order to compete with the older ones, yeah? Like, I feel like...

I don't know, but this was... They didn't even need to do this. We're like, we're just celebrating 20 years of housewives. Why are you coming in here? So it was just interesting to see. It's nice, though, because you get to be sort of the voice of reason and set back a little bit probably when they're like, da-dunt, dun, done, done.

Oh, yeah, I was like literally in the middle. Oh. And they're fighting. And then they're like, Kyle, this is not what happened. This is what happened. She did this. I'm like, listen, I'm not your therapist, guys. And then we met the Rhode Island girls, the new Rhode Island girls.

How's that? Oh. That was another situation. I was like, I literally feel like Mother Teresa sitting in this room. And they started coming in, and the personality's flying out of the thing coming out of their mouths. And I was just like, oh, my God. At one point I had to yell, everybody stopped talking. And I was like, I have to leave the room for a minute.

I was so overstimulated. Like one million housewives around me. That's intense. And those OGs, each of them brings something very different to the table. Oh, yeah. I mean, Teresa mixing with Lisa Barlow. Just Lou Ann. Lou Ann's been on the show.

She's fun. She's funny. She gave a little. Oh, of course she's saying. Which, that didn't go over very well with a couple of housewives on the show. They didn't want her to sing or they didn't like what she was singing. Why? They were like, no, ma'am.

Enough with that singing. Really? I would have, like, recorded a beat with her. It was so funny. You'll have to wait, see, but that I have is very entertained by that. I cannot, I cannot wait. So the sobriety, are you committed to being sober for the rest of your life? Are you committed to just today? What's your vibe on it? I never put a timeline on it because I just didn't want to do that to myself. I mean, but now I would be so disappointed if I did drink, even though I didn't have a problem before. Yeah. You know, so I'm like, when I do go out in public and I'm, I mean, but now, I would be so disappointed. And I did drink, even though I did drink, even though I did. I did drink, you know,

say, you know, you have a non-alcoholic, you know, sparkling wine or, you know, non-alcoholic beer. I'm paranoid because people are watching and I'm like, first of all, I need to look at the bottle because I have to see it myself that has no alcohol. And then I ask them to leave it on the table because I don't want someone saying, I saw Kyle Church and I saw a beer bottle and she's a liar because that happens all the time. Just being accused of lying. So, but if I had accidentally taken a sip of something with alcohol, I would be really like tortured because I'm very like, you know, like Capricorn and me.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, I have to stick with this and be. So I don't know. I don't see myself drinking, but who knows? I mean, what I one day say? It is inspiring to watch also your fitness journey. It feels like you got into weightlifting, right? I do. Yes.

I mean, I mean, I what I call weight lifting. I use weights every day, but, I mean, I don't think I'm cool enough to say weight lifting because they're not like huge. My arm started to get a little too big for a little bit. I thought I was doing a good thing. And I was like, oh, no, I don't like that. Now I got to go back. I have that right now. Have you ever heard of Hey Mod arms? Like you say hey mod across the street.

You go, hey mod. Why mod? Because this mods, like, it's a little wiggle. It's called Haymod arms. I don't like this. I don't like this. I find it so funny when women say that they're like, they're, they start weight lifting. Like, I'm getting just getting way too strong, way too big, way too. It's like, you know how hard it is to like guys? Like, that's all we do is like try all day. Yeah, because you want to be big. Yeah, but it takes for like it takes like, it takes like, you. It takes like, you. years to just put on like, Chris is over there, he knows. You guys like, I'm just too jacked right away. It's been two weeks of blipping weights. Well, I thought I was, you know, I wanted to look really good for Alexia's wedding. And I was like, my dress was strapless.

I'm like, I need my arms to be looking really good. And honestly, after having four kids and your weight goes up and down, up and down, up and down. It's not easy. That's like one of the hardest areas to hit is the arms. So I started increasing the weight, thinking I'm going to burn and make I'm really, well, my arm looked big in this picture to me. And I was like, that's not what I wanted. And I got to go back and lower that down.

and I'm sorry that I get so bustle. This is not my problem. I don't see anything big. I'm wearing a sweater. No, now it came down. Now I need to know about your supplement stacks. I want to know what you're doing to put on this massive muscle. Oh, I am taking peptides.

Oh, you are, which ones? Oh, you got to tell us what my pies you're taking. Apparently the one that helps the memory doesn't work because I can't remember the name of the peptides. But I think, Chris, help me out. G-H-K-C-C-U? Yeah. Oh, you're doing the glow step. That's like skin, hair.

Right. Is that the one that you're doing, too? Yeah. Hello. Can you not see the glow. And then I take the one that hurts when I put. That's the only one that hurts when I injected, the blue one. I think that was for the muscle repair on stuff.

The BPC. BPC 157. Uh-huh. I take that. That's good. It's good for recovery. What else I take, Chris? G.HK.

CQ. What is that? Oh, my God. Who the hell could remember? Please explain to me how everyone is supposed to remember all of these things. What does each one do? One's for glow? Listen, I just stab myself and hope for the best, okay?

I mean, I literally pinch it and stab it. in there. And I'm like, this is somebody who had to go to hypnotherapy because of my fear of needles. I do not care. I'm not one of these people who's going to say, you know, I earn these wrinkles, you know, I want to age gracefully. I'm not either. By the way, I'm impressed by those people and I admire them. That's not for me. No. That's not for me either. So if I can take a peptide and it's going to, you know, take away lines and use my red light therapy mask, oh, I'm doing every single thing. I will do every single thing until I'm rigamortis in the ground. I want Karina to do my makeup when I am laid to rest. I want you to fan my hair out, Chris.

I better be looking so fucking hot. And by the way, I don't even mean like, you know, like, I want to look good, like, not like, because I actually don't love to wear makeup as crinian old hair. I don't love to wear makeup. But I want to look good stuff I can't, don't have to wear it makeup. I want to look, my chest and my skin feel good and be healthy from the inside out. What are other beauty secrets, tips, tricks that you do? Okay. Well, the peptides is a huge thing.

Okay. And I never talk about this just because I don't know why. No one's really asked me, but like, I do hormone replacement therapy. And does it work? Absolutely. Is it the pellet or the shot? I do the pellet. Okay.

And does it put in your ass? Does it hurt? Yeah, when I say that, somebody thought I actually putting up in my ass and you care. Oh, no, in the asshole. Oh, my God. Let's be clear that it's in the butt cheek. Put a pellet up her ass. No, but the more.

This is a, in my butt cheek, to be clear. But this is, now this is becoming, a lot more women are trying to talk about this. And didn't they just pass new laws or regulations to, to push this through a little bit more? Didn't something happen? I have been reading. I have been reading about that, yes. See, I, and I hope that, you know,

I like that it's more of an open conversation now. Yeah. But, like, I watched my mom just be terrified, honestly. And she had her last period at, like, 40 years old. And I just remember her being, like, moody and edgy. And, like, I can remember her with a fan all the time. And I was like, I don't want to be like that. I'm never going to ever be like that.

So I had had a promise with my best friend, Lorene, And like, if we ever see that happening, we need to, like, talk to each other because I don't think my mom and all these people I've seen go through this realize that how scary they are. And we have to be watching each other. So I was like, when do I start that house soon? And I literally got ahead of it. And, you know, I battled my weight, my pretty much, you know, when I was younger, that was always like my thing. My sisters were blonde and skinny and I was like curvy. And, you know, so I was like, I don't want that to happen to me.

I want to be, like, fit. And I really feel like it does really help make a difference. Okay. Yeah, we've had a bunch of people come on the show as they, Marks this, one of them as they get older. And it's, what I always tell people is it's like, it's not a matter of if it's just when. Like, for sure, I will look at that stuff as they start to get older. Because you've seen the quality of life of so many people like change for the better. And we talk to older people on the show and they say that their sex life change, their energy change, they're happier, they're healthier, they're managing weight.

And so why would you not access those tools if you can? One hundred percent. And I can, I can kind of tell when someone's not taking a lot. it and should be. Oh, oh. I'll have to look for that look on your face. Am I going to be, like, raked over the colds for saying that? No, I think. Chris is saying yes, Chris. There's no more coals for you to be raked over at this. No, I know, they're rigged over every cold. Bring it on. No, I can look and think, okay, I can tell this person is not taking that and they should be. And I've sent many people, you know, I just think that whatever you can do. If you were specific about

the person, that might be a cold. Yeah, no, no, no. But, no, I've sent many, many of friends and maybe a couple housewives too. There's a whole other show on your inner monologue. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is true. This is true. The real inner monologue. Your mom carrying a fan is so 360 because Kathy's fan. Oh, yeah.

I have the pillow. I got the pillow. I got the pillow. I got the fan. I don't need the fan. I just think it's funny. Kathy, but my mom had a hand fan. Kathy travels with a big, big, like big huge, like, plugging the wall fan. I got the handheld fan that she had, the little round one. Yeah, she does that. I got to get a row. Oh my God. We ran into her at the airport the other day with Rick and there was like three dogs and like fans and pillows. And then like they were late to the flight as like Hilton. Hilton. It was like screw. Like oh my God. The dogs were going nuts. My God. She's a lot. She's a lot. She's hysterically funny though. She is definitely.

She is hysterically funny. Yeah, she is. She is very, very funny. Okay. So tell us about your production company and tell us about the new season of the Lincoln lawyer. So my production company is called House of 18. And, you know, all four of my girls have 18 in their birthdays, so one in the eight. Next week. They're all on the 18th of the one eight lined up. So it's just been my good luck number always. That's why my Instagram is Kyle Richards 18 and all that. But so we called the production company that and I have two shows, like I said, that are in development.

And two shows, I'm trying to think of the wording. What is this called? I think that is, one is like in early stages of development and the other two are like far. along in the process, you know, like scripts being written actually currently right now. Yeah, like pre-production. Is it like based off a book or is it something that you're creating out of nowhere? Something, well, I love to read. So like one of the ideas is something I just came up with that I was inspired by an article I had read years ago. And another one is inspired by just real life things that are going on. And another one is just a story that happened to me years ago.

So I, you know, some of them are inspired by and some of the stories I came up with. And I really love doing that. Like, to me, everything turns into like a story in my head. When I'm in my car, I don't listen to music. Usually, I'm just literally just thinking of stories. Well, there's a lot to think about with everything you've got going on in your life. I mean, I'm sure there's all kinds of different stories. Well, now I have, like, it's just so strange because my life has taken such an interesting, like, turn.

So my life is not what used to be at all, as you may have heard. You've read a couple things. The dynamic at my house is a very different situation now. But, yeah, and then, you know, and so I'm really. enjoying the producing and then the acting is just my first love. That's what, you know, I've done since I'm little and being able to do, you know, all of that has been great, you know, the housewives, which is stressful, you know, but then when I'm creating and producing and I'm acting, it's just, I just feel only excitement all the time, you know, I don't, even if it's, I, I always

compare, like, you know, I remember when I was shooting the last Halloween movie, or it was the Halloween before that one, Halloween kills, and I was four o'clock in the morning in a swamp, and they had men in the swamp with me with headlamps on with rubber suits up to here looking for snakes and alligators and I was getting in there with them and I thought I would rather be doing this. How scary is that I don't have to be doing this? You literally get in the swamps with the alligators and snakes for a living on a daily basis at Beverly Hills.

Getting in a real one's like easy. Well, I went up because they only told me the alligators and I was like, I'm not not doing this because they had a stunt person. I was like, there's no way I'm letting a stunt person do this. So I went up to the man who had like the stick with the thing for the alligator wrangler And I was like didn't want the director to hear me and I was like so can you just tell me like what are the chances of there really being like an alligator near me And he was like oh if I were you if it was a snakes I'll be more worried about than the alligators and I was like Don't the snakes nobody told you about but I was like I just love that you know I love that and I have this sense of like pride after an accomplishment so I love doing that and then this season doing Lincoln lawyer I've had more

compliments and nice messages from people people like, you know, all over that just like only nice things which you know, you know, when you do the houseways you get such a mix and you're like, God, this is really nice and people say, God, you know, you're a very activist. But it feels like now like people are on your side and really rooting for you. You feel like that that's shifted over the years

like it feels like more positive than negative. It's, I mean, I have to say I'm fortunate in the sense that it's, you know, you see comments in the, you know, like we say in Instagram or like, you know, one page six and things like that and there'll be mixed things. But like people DMing me and coming up to me are always overwhelmingly positive and supportive. And, you know, they really do feel like they know you. You know, they'll say, can I hug you?

And they'll wrap arms around me and give me a hug. People love you. And they'll say like, thank you. And they'll say like, you know, I've been watching you're going through. You know, Mauricio and, you know, your journey and this and that. And that's like the sweet part, you know. Has it ever worked out for any of the husbands now that we never got to? got that and figured out. I think Moe's

come out pretty much unscated. They give him a little bit of hard time now because he was never really in there squabbling with the girls, right? Like he didn't. No. Yeah, like whenever I see that, I'm like, oh, that's not going to end well for you. I know. No, he's not there squabbling with the girls. I got to ask you a brat or Angelina.

Or both. I said that. I'm taking both. Okay, you're taking both. Yeah, I'm greedy. Here's the thing. There's a couple reasons why I said that. First of all, everybody was like, you know, there was so much gossip about me and everybody was like trying to dance around the question but they just kept you know coming to me coming coming to me so I thought I'm going to a you know say something to like make them laugh and maybe shut

them up a little bit and the other side of that is like I don't know you know what I I've changed over these past few years I've evolved I've grown and what can I say I'm open minded you know that's a great place that I'm still about myself I will tell you you must know that you are very get on a mic. I've not heard you on a lot of podcasts. Is this the first podcast you ever done? No, I just don't do them often. You did a juicy scoop. I heard you want to do a long time. Yeah, and I did Jackie Schimels. Yes, yes. Because I know Jackie and found hers. I just, and I'll, you know, I've done Teddies because she's my best friends and other than that I don't usually do them. But then you guys are so close to Farah and then Moe was on here and Kathy and Paris. I'm like, you know, let's get the whole family.

Yeah, why don't we bring everybody on at once? Here. Well, let's do an open roundtable with the whole family. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine that? I'll host it like a reunion. I think that would actually be fun. Well, we'll set it up. For who? For who? For who?

Exactly. We'll have to monitor. There's a lot of moving pieces. But you are very good on a mic. Like, I got to say, she's really good on a mic. So maybe there's a podcast in your future. I actually really actually do want to do that. And I know if everyone seems like everyone.

But I think there's so many things I want to talk about. I actually thought about maybe doing one of my four daughters. I was, you know. You guys could swap it out to? I'm literally dealing with things with Portia, going to college and all that entails and her leaving home and emptiness and this and that. And then Sophia is in her own thing in her 20s and trying to figure out where, you know, where she's going in her career.

And then there's Alexia, just getting married. Is she going to have a baby, work, fair? I'm like, we have so many topics. I'm like, we could be doing this together. And then I could kidnap them again and not even need the boat. Well, I know. And I do know a guy that might be able to help you start the podcast. I know a guy.

I know some people that can talk to you about it. Oh. I feel like that pitch is pretty. pretty fucking strong. Yeah. Was that a good fit? That's a great thing. Anytime.

Yeah. Kyle Richards at Kyle Richards 18. Where can everyone watch, support, see you, all the things? Are you asking me? Yeah. Oh. Oh. Yep yourself out.

Well, yeah. That's my Instagram at Kyle Richards 18. I do TikToks now and then because of Coronina and Chris over there, you know? And that's where everyone's going to these days. I can't do TikTok. Sophia suckers me into her TikToks too and she's people really like Sophia on TikTok. We need a podcast. I know.

I'm going to, I'm going to get next because then I could like stay home and I never leave and just forget. Because what I do with podcasts, I forget people are going to listen to it later. And I just sit here and I feel like it's just us. It's kind of like housewives. It gets me into trouble.

That's why it's successful, though. Those are the ones that are successful. You could set it up in your living room and like do a whole show. And I will say, not, I've had a lot of housewives on the show. Not everyone is good on a mic. Oh, that'll be,

now we're going to get nailed. Very good on a mic. Well, you heard of here. I'm going to, where do I start? Where do I buy this equipment? We're going to have a, I need some guidance here. See, I'm going to now pitch you after this is over. Thank you for doing the show. Thank you.