The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Listener Questions Answered With Mimi Evarts - Microdosing, Skin Routines, Book Recs, High School Reflections, Advice For Young People & What We Wished We Knew

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

#270: On this episode we are joined by Lauryn's sister Mimi Evarts to answer listener questions. We discuss micordosing, our skin routines, and advice we would have for our younger selves. We also dis...cuss book recommendations and resources for success. We end the episode with reflections about what we were like in high school and what we wish we were taught in school.  To connect with Mimi Evarts click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning space offering more than 25,000 courses. Join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare today with a special offer just for our listeners: Get two months of Skillshare for free. That’s right, Skillshare is offering The Skinny Confidential listeners two months of unlimited access to over 25,000 classes for free. To sign up, go to www.skillshare.com/TSC.  This episode is brought to you by BETABRAND and their Betabrand dress pant yoga pants. To try these pants go to betabrand.com/skinny and receive 20% off your order. Millions of women agree these are the most comfortable pants you’ll ever wear to work.  This episode is brought to you by Perfect Keto  Clean ingredients for better health. Perfect Keto are no B.S. products backed by science to help promote better health. All Perfect Keto products and supplements are made from real whole food sources. Visit www.perfectketo.com/skinny to buy 1 and get 1 Perfect Keto 40% off + free shipping Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. TSC and get two free months of premium membership. That's two whole months of unlimited access to thousands of classes for free. Get started and join today by heading to Skillshare.com slash TSC. That's Skillshare.com slash TSC. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. All right, Lauren, you're gonna blow the mic or what? Let's get in position. And we're back again, everybody. Welcome back. Been a long week on Friday. You're still about to blow that mic. I am about to blow the mic. I love to get super close to the mic and it's like right in my face.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I cannot tell you how much I miss our fucking studio. I am sick of this. I want to get out of the house. I'm done. It's done. You look like you're about to blow the mic though too. You look like you've aged 10 years. I probably look like I've aged worse than that.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Welcome back to the show, everybody. For those of you that are new to the show, my name is Michael Bostic. I am a serial entrepreneur. I am claustrophobic in this house. I am ready to leave. I am the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network. How annoying. How annoying is he, Mimi? He's so humble. I was doing the intro to the show, Lauren. Michael, you're like the WB frog. His personality was a functioning two, and now it's like high level 10. I know how to turn it on. He's tap level 10 i know how to tap dancing i know tap into it okay all right well here we are we're here we have mimi my little sister she also
Starting point is 00:01:51 works she's my right hand man she works at the skinny confidential with us she's got a huge dick hi right hand man yep that's me what what's up with you and dicks today i don't know is lauren not like doing it for you? Yeah, what's going on? What do you mean, Michael? Are you going to go throw a beat in the shower? She's doing it for that mic. Okay, well, Mimi's here.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And yeah, Mimi compiled all of your questions from my Instagram story and our hotline. Shout out to our hotline, you guys. We have a fucking hotline. What's the number to the hotline? 1833 Skinnies. Yes, people have been calling in and leaving voicemails. So Mimi got everything transcribed. She has questions that you guys have asked Michael and I, and we're going to answer them on this episode because quarantine is the time to do this. You know what
Starting point is 00:02:35 I mean? It's been a while since we've done a listener question. Yeah, it has been a while. We used to do those call-ins. Remember with Taylor? Ooh, Taylor. See, when we get the studio back open again, we'm gonna do that again. That was fun. I like doing that. That's old school when we used to have people actually call in. I'm gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I wanna do that again. I wanna have the call-ins. I wanna play the voicemails. I wanna get, we need to get back. Taylor in quarantine would be a great reality show. Like there'd be nothing better than watching Taylor in quarantine. I would love to know what Taylor O'Connor is doing.
Starting point is 00:03:01 He's listening right now with his big ear. How's it going, Taylor? Taylor's our producer for those of you that are new to the show. And he works with us at Dear Media and for us at Dear Media. And somehow, even when we're all working from home, and the only thing you need to do is click a button to get into a zoom meeting, he still happens to be late to every meeting. I really I don't get it. It's I mean, I don't get it. If you're unfamiliar with Taylor, he has pissed his pants on the show, talked about his one minute man problem.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You don't have to call it a problem. I guess it was one minute man situation and told every story in the book about every sexual encounter he's ever had. So it's been a real wild ride with Taylor. If you want to have more context, you can go back and listen to any Taylor episodes. Okay, let's get into the show. Mimi, I'm going to let you start out with the first question. We are going to answer the reader's questions, the listener's questions. Okay, let's get into the show. Mimi, I'm going to let you start out with the first question. We are going to answer the reader's questions, the listener's questions. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Everyone always asks this question. It's probably like the top five most asked questions on the podcast Instagram. Wait, stop for one second. Can I ask you, are those, did you just start wearing glasses for a look or do you actually need glasses? No, I went to the eye doctor and my left eye. When did you go to the eye doctor? There's no way you went to the eye doctor. Three weeks ago. Yeah. During quarantine? Yes. I wore a mask. He wore a mask. I feel like you're making it up. I don't believe. Okay. No, I noticed I was working on the computer so much more during quarantine and like not getting a break from the computer that my eyes really started to hurt. And I went to the eye doctor and my left eye needed a prescription for it. That is true. I wear blue light glasses too. Shout out to movement.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I feel it's a fashion statement. I will, I'll dig into this case a little further. You feel it. You can try them on right now. Do you want to see the prescription? You look like Ren and Stimpy when they just woke up. So I feel like you need to invest in a blue light glass. When's the last time you had Botox?
Starting point is 00:04:39 You look like, God, by the way, there's, there's nothing better in life than a fake glasses moment. That's why I don't believe the glasses. I love it. Would you guys like to try them on to see? No, no, no. I don't need to try them on. I just, I think that you're the type of psycho that would wear them even if you couldn't
Starting point is 00:04:55 see and they're a little blurred just to get the... What do you think your wife wears all the time? I don't know. I probably have prescription glasses that I don't need. Maybe if you wore glasses, your eyes would open up a bit more. Lauren, you better quit rolling around in that chair. It's going to distract me the whole show. Okay, back to the questions. Fine. You're annoying. Everyone wants to know your top five
Starting point is 00:05:11 books. Ooh, good question. Oh, that's too hard for me, but I can give some good book recommendations. But Lauren, you go first. Well, I think I got to think. I think I'll say one, you say one, I'll say one, you say one. Top recommendation of books. are we going juicy or are we going value because if we're going juicy i am gonna have to say anthony ketis's scar tissue was one of the most beautifully written books that i've ever read i think that's attributed to the fact that he is a songwriter so i mean the each sentence is so beautifully written. So that's definitely one of my favorites. It's an incredibly dynamic, interesting, deep book too. It's about his struggle with drug addiction. As far as something with value,
Starting point is 00:05:53 I'll guess I'll let you go first, Michael, and then I'll come back to me with the value one. I'll rattle like three biographies that I think people should read. Don't overwhelm people. I'm not, I'm not. One, I think everybody should read Benjamin Franklin's biography by Walter Isaacson.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I think it's just Benjamin Franklin is like a really, he was just like a pillar of a person and very wise. And I just think it's important to read that biography. Arnold Schwarzenegger's biography. I've said this for a long time. Total Recall is one of the better biographies I've ever read. And he wrote it. Jerry Weintraub's biography.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Jerry Weintraub's biography is so good, you guys. We agree on that one. And we both read that in like what a day or two it is such a good biography that's that's that's a good one michael if i was to write a book he stole the title it's his title so i would steal the title from him but it's called you'll know i'm dead when i stop talking right it's not a good title yeah explains you perfectly yeah managing oneself by peter drucker the one thing by gary keller you're going too crazy shogun by james clavelle last going too crazy. What about Shogun?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Shogun by James Clavel. Last night I tried to start reading Shogun and I immediately fell asleep. Those books are hard to digest, but if anybody really wants to get a solid grasp on a million different aspects of life, business, love, anything, if you read The Asian Saga by James Clavel from Taipan to Noble House,
Starting point is 00:07:04 it's hard to do, but it's, it's worth it. A lot of people won't do it. That just probably just went into the wind. I'm going to say tools of the Titans for value, because this is based upon the fact that you can open it up to any page in the entire book.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And the page, the book is 750 pages and find something that brings you a tangible takeaway. So I opened it the other day, you know, three times and I got all different kinds of tips that I could implement into my own life. So that's the one that I would pick for value. I've said like 50 times in the last like few weeks and Ryan Holiday was just on and we both thought we all, all three of us talked about it. Man's search for meaning by Victor Frank. I haven't read that. I need to read that. You need to read it. I looked for it when I was naked juving in your man cave today.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Anybody that thinks they're really struggling right now, like anybody, literally anybody, and they read that book, it's going to give you so much perspective and so much hope in your life. You're talking about somebody who literally, you know, survived Auschwitz in the concentration camps and lived to tell about it
Starting point is 00:08:02 and write about that entire experience. It's just, it's a book that everyone should read for perspective. So I'm going to read that book. That's my next read. I am reading such a good book right now. I cannot put it down. Michael, I'm annoying the fuck out of him. It's called Love Warrior. I feel like I'm late to the party. It's by Glendalyn Doyle and she's going to come on the podcast. Did I mispronounce her name? You guys are shaking your head. You probably mispronounced it. I feel like that can't be right. I'm mispronouncing.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Let's get over it. Apologize to her when she comes on the show. Okay, so I also heard her book Untamed is unreal. So that's my next book. I feel like the way she speaks to women is unlike anyone I've ever read. Every sentence again is art. I've taken so many notes and highlighted so many pages and I literally cannot put it down. I just am reading it off my phone every single night.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Another book that I really am enjoying right now that was just recommended to me by my friend Sarah from Pilates is called Nemesis. And it's about Jackie O and Aristotle and their relationship after JFK. So that's a juicy biography if you guys want something more juicy. Yeah, there's so many good books. There's some posts that we did on the Skinny Confidential. If you look TSC Book Club up, you'll see some posts that we did in the past.
Starting point is 00:09:13 There's so many books. Also, you probably get a pass on pronunciation because you can't even say the word breakfast. So nobody's gonna get mad at you because if you can't even pronounce breakfast after all this time, that's something you get a pass. Sometimes I just don't like to put my energy into picking up the remote.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I like to ask you to do it for me. Like if you ever fuck up someone's name. Saying breakfast is too much. The way I say it is like. Say breakfast. Breakfast. Oh, you actually say it.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Sometimes you say it different. Breakfast. Yeah, that's how you usually say it. Breakfast. And perfect. Perfect. Yeah. But I'm saying like if you,
Starting point is 00:09:42 if you. Like efficient. If anyone ever gets mad, you could just look and be like, you know, sorry. If someone's gonna get mad about that we gotta like you just say sorry we gotta take our energy elsewhere don't get mad about the way i pronounce things you gotta go for a walk sorry i can't pronounce breakfast maybe some breath work yeah okay and two more i have two more books to share we we overdid this question we kicked it to death
Starting point is 00:09:59 okay i have a hundred what about how to murder your life by kat marnell how to murder your life by kat marnell did you read it yeah it's good huh it was so good your sister knows huh you know an idea we've been toying with me we'll just we'll ask the audience right now if we want to do it so we've been doing we're toying with the idea of doing a couple mini episodes like maybe like five to ten minutes like every couple weeks like maybe like two to three a week or a month a month not a week that's too much guys i can't do that but we're thinking like maybe at the beginning of each month lauren and i would come in and each give two book recommendations of the month. It's like a little TSC book club via podcast. It's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:10:28 People like that. We'll do it. I love it. So a couple episodes back, Lauren and I did an episode all about just getting started. What better time now when we're all sitting at home, have more time than ever on our hands to just get started on that project you've been holding off on. And if you're one of those people sitting there, well, yes, I want to get started, but I don't know how, we have the answer for you. We've always had the answer for you. And that is Skillshare.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Skillshare is an online learning community with thousands and thousands of classes online taught by people like you and me. It's amazing. We've been talking about it for years. It's one of the easiest ways to jump in and learn a new skill. The skill that my team specifically uses, we've talked about this, are the Instagram stories. You know how there's video and we use like for our podcast, you can see the audio and the video on the stories. We learned how to do that through Skillshare. So they all went on,
Starting point is 00:11:16 they took a class and now some of them are like so good at it. It's ridiculous. Sometimes Taylor sends me assets and I'm like, wow, you are really, really tapped into Skillshare. One of my favorite classes that they just launched is Simple Productivity, How to Accomplish More with Less by none other than Greg McKeown. He's been on this show. He wrote one of our favorite books, Essentialism. He has a whole course online now all about how to be productive and stay productive during this time. He's an amazing author too. Check out his book, Essentialism. There's a free plug for you right there, Greg. And this is really a Skillshare plug. So two of my favorite things meeting in the same place Skillshare and Greg McKeown. He's got a course on there. And guys, as always, we have a special offer just for our listeners. If you want to jump in and learn any skill, whether that's
Starting point is 00:11:56 Photoshop coding, how to be productive, how to build a website, how to do a podcast, all of it, they got something for you to check it out and explore your creativity and get two free months of premium membership at Skillshare.com slash TSC. That's two whole months of unlimited access to thousands of classes for free. How can you beat free? Get started and join today by heading to Skillshare.com slash TSC. That's two free months of unlimited access to thousands of classes at Skillshare.com slash TSC. And be sure to check out Greg McKeown's course. It's amazing. In the meantime, some other books that I'm reading just really quickly for research, actually, for the skinny confidential, I'm reading the Park Avenue face want to interview him. It's all about plastic surgery, which is interesting read.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'm also reading and this has nothing to do with politics. Absolutely nothing. In fact, I don't really even partake too much in politics. It just has to do with politics absolutely nothing in fact I don't really even partake too much in politics it just has to do with the fact that I watched the first wives club and I thought what she said don't get mad get even was really fabulous Ivana Trump wrote a book called Raising Trump and it's about how she raised her kids and it's juicy so if you want something juicy that's interesting she talks a lot of shit about Donald it's kind of funny and then another one that I would recommend is by Esther Perel. It's called Mating in Captivity and it's unblocking erotic
Starting point is 00:13:10 intelligence. So those are some of my favorites. But if you want all of our books, like Michael said, just Google the Skinny Confidential Book Club. And literally anything by the master Robert Green. Every single book. Literally any book. You could pick up any book and it's worth it. Robert Green. Robert, if Robert wanted to date me, I might have to leave you if robert wanted to date me i would leave you yeah robert open invite right right okay i think he's married what's next me all right let's wrap that one up okay some people wanted to know your nighttime skincare routine well right now it's just like crying myself to sleep that i can't are you rubbing sand on your skin what's going on that is a foul i caught you rubbing lamere on your fucking kneecaps the other day.
Starting point is 00:13:48 No, you always tell that story. That's not true. It's a true story. You come into bed and I have a nose that can smell anything. And you lay in bed like you haven't done anything. They're not asking my routine. They want to know your routine. No, they are.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Oh, they are? They're asking my routine? Yeah, they are. Oh, God. Don't lie. Just be like transparent. Well, no, I am always transparent. You have a good 10 step. You know, I'm'm not gonna lie everybody i'm not gonna lie i'm
Starting point is 00:14:07 gonna be vulnerable here for a minute taylor cue the sad music he probably didn't i guarantee he's not gonna cue he never cues it up i guarantee right now there's no sad music 100 it's probably taylor i bet you didn't do it no that's why also i can't smack him in the studio because i don't see him right now i've been lagging a little bit but there's one thing that like even if i lag and i need a go-to lauren you're gonna have to tell me what the exact product's called but it's the white dr dennis clear the silver top what which one is that some moisturizer i don't know exactly what it's called you use it all the time they use that every night let me let me look what that is i think that is the best nighttime cream that you can use but typically you know i
Starting point is 00:14:49 typically am a morning face washer i don't wash my face in the night i think only once a night or once a day right who told you that well you told me but then a million doctors that have been on the show also told me why why do you disagree because if you use an active ingredient at night like i use retinol so in the morning i want to wash all the retinol off my skin so then i don't get burned yeah but i only wash in the morning is what i'm saying no but he doesn't use retinol no i do use retinol in the night oh well you should listen to me because she knows but the same thing if i use the retinol you don't want to wash the day off we live in la it's so smoggy i live inside this house mimi i don't live anywhere anymore see my theory is i don't wash my face in the morning ever because i want to let the products from the night before seep into my skin so i wake up like an oily dewy bitch and i
Starting point is 00:15:30 want to keep it that way and let all the essence seep in okay but the retinol thing that you're saying makes total sense you use active ingredients too you use hydrochronine sometimes or however you say it hydroquinone yeah sometimes not not too not too much since i got pregnant i've been like kind of doing a lot of clean beauty lately i'll give all the men and women out there a tip from my perspective that may not be the exact answer to this because i'm having trouble answering for whatever reason maybe because i just haven't been in a routine lately but the main thing that i would say to anyone is that and and maybe because i think we're speaking to a lot of women if you're trying to get your man into a skin routine give give him one line of products. Like don't go and say you use this
Starting point is 00:16:08 from like a La Mer, Dr. Dennis, Barbara Stern. Like what you did with me was you said, hey, this is three products you use from Dr. Dennis, use a one, two, three. Or you said, these are three products you use Drunk Elephant, one, two, three. So what I've done since you've taught me about skincare is I typically stick with only one skincare line for like one or two months and just follow the steps that that doctor or skincare brand has put out there. And that usually works really, really well for me. My greatest work of art that I've ever done in my life is getting you on a skincare routine. And I don't feel like you're giving the audience what they need to know. So I'm going to give it to them. Tell them the product. I was, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:16:43 pull it back around cause I can't forget a detail okay so the product that he likes that's by his bedside that he stuck his big finger in a hundred times it's called dr dennis gross it's in a white container and it's the alpha beta exfoliating moisturizer and the reason that he likes it and he's shaking his head because i know him is because it's a moisturizer but it has tiny little particles in it that feel really nice on your skin because it exfoliates your skin while making it clean and dewy. Does your wife know? Yeah, that's it. I think it's a really good product for men.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He also uses and likes because I go through his bathroom and like organize everything. He also likes the peel pads by Dr. Dennis. He doesn't use the extra strength and he doesn't use the sensitive skin. He uses the regular ones. If I feel like my skin's good, I'll use the light. Oh, here. See, it's coming out, guys. But if my skin looks like garbage like it does right now, I'll use the medium.
Starting point is 00:17:32 But I never go the heavy. The heavy's too gnarly. Okay. All right. So he also likes Drunk Elephant, okay? He uses the Drunk Elephant teal moisturizer that you pump, pump, pump. And he also uses the vitamin c serum by dr dennis gross and drunk elephant he mixes now you reminded me so i use the drunk elephant with the light blue
Starting point is 00:17:52 top okay then that's at night no that's at night no i talked to her when she came on the show and we talked and and we she said you could use that at night or taylor pull the tape he's not gonna pull the tape anyone go back and he's beating his me go look at the tape so I use the light blue with the orange which is the vitamin c in the morning and then I tap that off with the teal moisturizer okay so his wife was right at night I use if I'm using drunk elephant which I said don't switch brands if I'm using Dr. Dennis I'm not doing this but if I use that night then I use the light blue with the pink top which you're overwhelming the audience and how do you know more about skin care than 95? I thought they want specifics. They do want specifics.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I'm going to go down to your bathroom after this and take pictures and post it on the podcast Instagram. You also use, that's covered in your pube hair from your razor that you use. That's my facial hair. It looks like pube. Can we not talk about his pubes right now? It makes me sick too. I have to be as subjected to it.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You also use Elemis oils all the time. He loves the superfood oil, the green one, the little bottle. And my friend Weston, who I manipulated into a skincare routine, uses all Elemis. So Elemis is a great way to start the day as well. Are you sure this question was directed at me? Yeah, people have asked before. So what you need to do, like I've told you for the last 80, 100 years, is film a TikTok skincare routine, please.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Let me just add that to my shit list of shit things to do. All right. Maybe we'll just sneak and do it when you're not looking. If you don't do it, I'm going to set up cameras when you're shaving your pubes into the toilet and I'm going to post it on TikTok. He would never let anyone see that. He has the door like deadbolted. I have so much blackmail.
Starting point is 00:19:22 If he ever fucks with me, you don't even know the blackmail. I've never even seen his feet. I can't imagine like hidden cameras. Men don't walk around with open-toed shoes. I have so much blackmail. If he ever fucks with me, you don't even know the blackmail. I've never even seen his feet. I can't imagine. I have hidden cameras. No, no, no. Men don't walk around with open-toed shoes. That's a no-no. Don't do that, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I don't even do that in my fucking house. And then he uses WooMorePlay. That's another thing he uses. All right, next question. Okay, next question. I'm moving on. Okay. People want to know Lauren's as well.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Oh my God. We were just scratching the surface. Do we have all day all day no i'm just kidding right now i'm just going to give you five of my standout favorites that you can't go wrong that aren't going to collect cobwebs in your drawer you're going to use them over and over and over and over again fitner's daughter ride or die obsessed with the oil smells delicious great michael don't touch it it's expensive it's like gold It's the one product that I will spend money on. That is my nighttime routine consists of me sneaking in and stealing the stuff that you like. Elemis oils. They have amazing oils. There's this one that's pink and
Starting point is 00:20:15 yellow and white. It comes in this little magical bottle and you've put a few drops on your face and it makes you glow. Sonia Dakar's butterfly bomb. I am having such a moment with this. I take it all the way down to my boobs. It's on my shoulders. It's underneath my eyes. They also have like a mini Jade Energy one that is green. And both of those together, you cannot go wrong. Dr. Dennis Vitamin C. We talked about on Dr. Dennis's IGTV. If you go to his feed at Dr. Dennis Gross, all about why vitamin C is so essential in quarantine. So that's one that I keep going back to. I can't say enough good things about it. And then my last product that I can't stop using
Starting point is 00:20:54 is this beauty water that Mimi got me. It's from Korea. She brought it back from Korea. I tried it a couple of times. I'm in love with it. It reminds me, and I haven't told you this, of Shmi in peter pan remember the scene where he's shaving captain hook's face and then afterwards he does after
Starting point is 00:21:10 shave but no he does after shaving he goes like he does it on the seagulls but remember because he accidentally shaves the seagulls i love how you get my disney references that turns me on it makes me i know peter pan i was peter pan when. Oh. I love Peter Pan. I wanted to live in a fucking tree and escape my life. We're discussing Beauty Water. So Beauty Water, you're a crook, Captain Hook. Okay. Do you know what that's from? Those are my five picks right now.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Arrested Development. Oh, yeah. I do remember that. Ooh. I forgot that one. Did you want to be a maritime lawyer when you were a child? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:42 What's next? By the way, the beauty water is by Sawn and Park. Oh, thank you. How many questions are there? Because I mean, we are, we just got, we've only done two questions. Don't micromanage the situation. Okay. Moving on. This is like a question with a story a little bit. What are your thoughts on men playing video games? My man will play a minimum 12 hours a day while in quarantine 12 hours a day what a lucky guy you know what i wish that i could still play video games but i used to love video games we're all pretty much in the same situation we're lounging around we're in quarantine we need some comfortable pair of pants to wear there's nothing worse than wearing an uncomfortable jean in quarantine. I can't think
Starting point is 00:22:26 of anything worse. It gets all sweaty. And especially with being in postpartum, there's nothing worse than a jean in quarantine and being postpartum. So that's why I've been wearing Beta Brands Dress Pant Yoga Pant. I have been talking about this pant for the last year and a half. If you have not tried this pant, you're missing out because you look chic and put together and like you have your life together, but you're also really comfortable. So it's one of those pairs of pants that your significant other is probably going to check your ass out in, but at the same time, you're entirely comfortable, which is exactly what girls want. You know i mean we're all working from home you know you want to look cute on the top with your blouse but you can also be cute on the bottom and you can also be comfortable so pro tip keep your routine get into
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Starting point is 00:24:09 living yeah i need more context i need more like situational information with this is he making a living or is this something that it's like a side hustle or is he just doing it to be lazy he's probably just in his underpants with his friends if he's just letting his cock hang out to the side and he's eating cookies on the couch and there's crumbs everywhere and the dog's licking his left toe, like that's maybe something that you might want to think about,
Starting point is 00:24:31 especially if you're going to eventually have kids with him because you're going to need him to tuck his cock away, put the cookies away and have the dog stop licking his toe. But if it's side hustle or it's his job, that's a different story. In my opinion, this is my opinion. To me, it sounds like this person is writing in
Starting point is 00:24:48 because it is not his job or his side hustle. Okay, so if it's not his job, I would have a serious, serious talking. I miss video games. With a manipulation, you need a good puppeteered manipulation. So casual comments that are dropped and then changing the subject saying pass the ketchup. Little texts and articles that you're sending in the midday.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Little comments from the mother-in-law. I love to use a good mother-in-law comment. How old is the guy? Those always work. Remember how much? 25 plus. I used to play video games. So remember that?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I used to play Rainbow Six. You didn't play for 12 hours. I played Rogue. So yes, I did. No, you didn't. I played Warcraft? I used to play Rainbow Six. You didn't play for 12 hours. I played Rogue. So yes, I did. Rogue Spear. No, you didn't. I played Warcraft. I played Starcraft.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Honey, you didn't play for 12 hours. I played everything. Okay. Well, you didn't play for 12 hours. That's a lot. I would start ticking away with my tactics and manipulations. You know who the people I envy are these guys that have become professionals. I'm like, I'm jealous of those people.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm like, God damn it. That would have been fun. Okay. Well, you can play video games. Go play games here i am on the mic play video games talking about skincare no no one's stopping oh oh babe um but you know the other perspective is this guy could be out screwing around and he's not he's at home no what's he gonna do i don't buy that no i don't buy that you're not gonna say he can be out screwing around so now instead he's gonna play video games here's what i would say. You guys all,
Starting point is 00:26:05 every guy in quarantine needs like a talking to, but let me tell you what happens. Do you want me to do it on behalf of all women? Cause like I'm, I'm down. Let me tell you this though. The guy's going to grow up and he's going to get a lot of responsibility. He has grown up,
Starting point is 00:26:18 Michael. He's 25 plus. Come on. And he's going to have kids or something, you know, he's going to be, I'm talking about myself. And then you're not going to,
Starting point is 00:26:24 you're one day you're going to look back and you're going to have all your great video game systems and you're going to be able to buy whatever video game you want. And, but you're not going to have kids or something, you know? He's going to be, I'm talking about myself. And then you're not going to, one day you're going to look back and you're going to have all your great video game systems and you're going to be able to buy whatever video game you want, but you're not going to be able to. Here's my problem with video games, personally, like my own problem. I don't want to be in the kitchen
Starting point is 00:26:35 listening to my low frequency bossa nova with a tangerine diffuser and candles lit and hear people shooting each other. Like, I just don't want to do that, Michael. I bought headphones for the living room so I can have Bluetooth headphones that plugs. You know, it's true too. Okay, but I have random chores that I like for you to do.
Starting point is 00:26:51 For all the guys out there, there's a great game called Jedi, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order. I just played that game. I had time to play that, but it was a single player. I couldn't even get multiplayer. I want to play the new Call of Duty. I can't do that either.
Starting point is 00:27:00 The only video game I like in my life is Street Fighter and I was chung Lee. Mimi can't say anything. She's on that Animal Crossing thing. I have played 180 hours of Animal Crossing since March. I can't do it. I can't do that. I can't waste 180 hours when I could be doing. I mean, I find it relaxing. I tried to get into this game that the young kids are playing Animal Crossing and there's this beaver in there. What's it? It's a tom nook tom this guy pissed me off so bad oh he's a raccoon god he pissed me off i've i basically broke the game because i couldn't oh mario kart remember mario karts mario all the games remember duck hunt i like super mario i could fuck with super mario
Starting point is 00:27:35 which one the one where he like super mario is like a big umbrella no don't talk about he bounces on the mushroom and he and like don't talk about those she's gonna piss me off because she doesn't know she tries it for smash bros she does no it was like vintage nintendo lauren her whole life has done this thing where she tries to jump in and act like she knows about these i do know about super mario i do i'm sorry it had the gray remote name three characters that are in mario outside of mario princess peach okay who was me the weird mushroom guy what's his name everyone knows this yeah mushroom toad toad okay i didn't know that okay name two more because we just gave you that one mario you said that okay we can't use mario wow see told you i don't remember the names i just remember i was good at bowser no i was good at sega too i was good at sega bowser
Starting point is 00:28:26 yoshi oh i forgot about yoshi all right wendy remember no daughter no only okay all right let me jigglypuff no that jigglypuff that's a pokemon wii g wario you used to call me you used to call me jigglypuff when we were 12 from pokemon she from Pokemon. She's from Pokemon. See, don't do it. Okay, let's not go. That's cute. Okay. All right, next question. Did she look like a Jigglypuff? No, Jigglypuff was pink. Michael looked like a Jigglypuff.
Starting point is 00:28:52 He was so small. I still have the key chain. I know. Perfect keto, specifically perfect keto cookies because they're low carb and we're in quarantine and I don't know about you, but I'm not getting as much exercise as I once was. So a low carb cookie sounds like my definition of a dream.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Basically, they're these keto cookies, okay? You could have them busy mornings, busy days, when you don't have time to cook, when you want a dessert in bed, while you're watching Housewives, you could keep them in your gym bag. You could even use them as a pre-workout energy boost. You can stash them in your car, your office or travel luggage, or you can use them how I personally like to use them, which is keeping my hypoglycemic husband off my ass by giving him a
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Starting point is 00:30:34 You can have one. Give him one. It'll shut him up. All right, let's get back into the show. Okay, moving on. Who is your dream podcast guest? Who is my dream podcast guest? Don't say something like oprah everyone says
Starting point is 00:30:46 oprah we got one everyone's dream guest we got it what else yeah say yours larry david to be on your guys's show that would die such a good one that's a good one oh that's i think that's the best one ever yeah i don't think you're gonna get better than that can it be living or dead yeah whatever you want james gandini. Oh. Soprano. Good one. 100%. I would sit on his knee. I love James Gandolfini. I'm sorry, but there's something about him that is so hot.
Starting point is 00:31:15 James Gandolfini. Like, it's like so weird to me. No, I think that would have been amazing. Yeah, I would have loved to have sat and picked his brain for two hours. Yeah, that's a good one. Or Elon Musk. That'd be a really fun one. Elon Musk would a really good one yeah but elon musk is like too like oprah category we know that no i want to go like i want to go somewhere like someone who doesn't do podcasts you know yeah okay who hmm a lot of people probably won't even know who this answer is but i think
Starting point is 00:31:37 would have been amazing to interview don rickles before he died mr wonderful or no mr warmth mr warmth mr warmth right no it was Mr. Wonderful. Didn't they just make a movie about him? I thought it was Warmth. Mr. Warmth. Wonderful. I know Don Rickles was fucking hilarious. Him.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Don Rickles is a really good one. I would love to have interviewed Josh Agabor. Of course. There's a lot of good ones. What were you going to say? He seems really what? I was going to say you seem pretty invested, not even to know the name of his show. He's your number one, Don Rickles?
Starting point is 00:32:03 No, but I just couldn't remember. I don't know. I couldn't remember if he was warmth or wonderful i liked he was war man wonderful how about that okay i liked i liked him but he would have been good i think he would have i just wanted him to i would want him to come on here and just make fun of us that'd be funny larry david's pretty up there yeah i killed it with that one or even like someone like no i know who i would want i would want to interview someone like gangas khan right and be like, man, how'd you build the biggest land empire of all time? How'd you do that? Why'd you knock down China's wall?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Why'd you climb over that and sack all those cities? Or Napoleon, you know, someone like that. That is such a good one, both those people. Yeah, like dead people. Imagine sitting at the table with Genghis Khan and Napoleon. Yeah, all these people that are living, you're kind of, eh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 All you live people. I would have loved to have interviewed the creator of Barbie. her name was ruth i would have loved to do that is she dead yeah that'd be fascinating i guess we just want to talk to dead people that's it but yeah i mean if there's anybody else interesting alive like come on the show sure come on welcome okay the next question is are you having trouble finding the questions you can't see out of those glasses can you no i made the font too small i think yeah those glasses aren't prescription okay there are prescription glasses you can't read your phone look at how small it is i mean isn't that why you wear the glasses okay anyways that's for farsighted told you i was gonna catch her okay whatever this is
Starting point is 00:33:17 for someone who's launching a new business the question is how to develop a community that trusts you and wants you to coach them it's a saturated market and tough to get noticed. The word saturated and tough, take them out of your vocabulary. I don't use negative words like that. I tell my team this too. I don't start emails out with, unfortunately, I don't want to hear the word tough. I don't want to hear the word saturated. I would really change your verbiage to there.
Starting point is 00:33:41 We're dealing with the world. The world is not saturated. There is room for you. There is room for you. There is room for your unique perspective. I would stop giving energy towards things being tough. I think that's a very big roadblock in people moving forward. And I noticed that people tell themselves a narrative
Starting point is 00:33:58 of why they can't do things. So that's the first thing that I would eliminate from your vocabulary. As far as building a community, instead of focusing on building community, I would focus on what you do have. So if you have one fan or 10 fans that are obsessed with what you're doing, focus on that one or 10 or 20 or 200 fans that you already have and give them the most amazing, insane experience.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And they will go be your soldiers and tell other people about your idea or brand or community. The mistake I see people making is that they're always wanting more, more, more, more, more, instead of just focusing on what's in front of them, what they have, and who does appreciate them. I mean, I think like, I'm going to reinforce what you just said. I think people in the beginning, when they're starting a new business, they focus way too much on quantity and not enough on quality. And when I say quantity, they focus on how to build this massive community or this massive audience or this massive customer base. And they forget that they already have an existing small
Starting point is 00:34:55 base. So say you start a business and you have 10 customers. Typically what people do is they say, okay, great, got those 10, fuck those people, I'm moving on to the next, try to get the next people. But if you focus more on servicing those first 10 or providing content for those first 10 or speaking to those first 10, they're gonna go until another 10 and another 10. But so many people, they don't focus on that and they get in the weeds,
Starting point is 00:35:16 focus on this huge number of like all these different customers and listeners or viewers or readers or whatever. And they don't cater to the people they already have and it capsizes their business to begin with. So it's like, it's a quality thing over quantity to begin with. And it's being grateful that you have anybody paying attention or anybody buying your service or anybody, you know, as a customer, and focus on catering to them and servicing them first, and they will go and grow your business for you, right? Like this show, for example, started with
Starting point is 00:35:41 very few listeners compared to what it has today. And those listeners really were the mouthpieces to other now other listeners that learned about this show. It was, you know, Lauren and I have never spent a dollar on marketing for this thing. You know, we started speaking to a very small select group of people. They told some other people they told some other people, but it's always been because we've put those people first. We're into the same thing on our blog. I've done it the same way on every kind of consumer facing business or product based business. I've had us focus on the customers and the consumers that you already have and grow from there. Don't focus on a macro in the beginning, focus on the micro. That's my advice on starting a business. And also make sure you have a good fucking idea and product that's worth, like if you wouldn't buy it yourself or you wouldn't share it with a
Starting point is 00:36:19 family member or a friend and you don't believe in it, then don't expect others to either. Make sure you have a rock solid product. There's nothing worse than people promoting shit that they wouldn't actually use themselves. And was that a coaching question? Was that like somebody's trying to start a coaching business? No, somebody's trying to start a fitness business. Okay. Oh, I get it. A fitness business. Okay. So if you're in shape and you want to share that, I'll go on a tangent on coaching businesses. Make sure there's nothing worse than that 22-year-old, 23-year-old life coach that wants to talk to you about being an entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I've waited for a very long time to start talking anything. You never see me putting a course out about how to be a podcast master or how to run a podcast business. I'd rather teach people by showing in actions, not by saying, hey, buy my course and learn. Always question these people that are saying like, hey, buy my course to learn. There's a lot of people maybe going to get mad at me saying that. I would make sure that you have the credibility. that are saying like, hey, buy my course to learn. Like there's a lot of people maybe gonna get mad at me saying that. I would make sure that you have the credibility.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And if you are gonna sell a course and you are gonna teach people and coach people on how to build a business, make sure you actually have done it yourself and have the real credibility. And if you're gonna be somebody that's buying those courses, look into that person and make sure they've actually done it themselves. You know, like I think that's,
Starting point is 00:37:21 that just as a tangent I went on, but it's true. Okay, the next question is, how has your relationship changed now that you've had a baby? Don't look at me to answer that question. Ladies first. Nope. No. Ladies first. No, you can go first.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You guys are handling it well. Are we? Yeah. Have you seen my skin? Have you seen my face? You've looked better, but relationship wise. Today he was a little testy, testy,
Starting point is 00:37:45 testy. Well, listen, I would say that Jim, I would say this. We were talking to our pediatrician and it's, this is not easy on any married couple or any couple. I'm not saying married,
Starting point is 00:37:55 any couple, anybody that's together, man, woman, you know, man, man, woman,
Starting point is 00:37:58 whatever, whatever the situation is. Quarantine is not easy when you throw a young kid in the mix. And I was talking to him. He's got two young children that are in school, it's probably even harder for them, because all the kids that, you know, shout out to all the parents that are taking care of the kids that can't go and socialize in school and like have to actually like get them through a school day. And of course, that's not easy. So, you know, this quarantine situation has not necessarily been
Starting point is 00:38:20 the easiest when you throw kids in the mix, you throw work, you throw a smaller space, you throw 800 balloons for my birthday and all the flowers that yeah but in but in light of all that and just crowd the apartment out and so it looks like the movie up i would say the kid has brought in us much closer together and like this there's one thing that like no matter what's going on with lauren and i which it's usually good but that we're both completely aligned and love the kids. So it's like, it's this commonality of like, there's something you both love so much that it brings you together in a different type of way.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Also, I think Michael and I were talking about this when we could go out to dinner 500 years ago about how Zaza was built on so much history. You know, we've known each other since we were 12 years old. Our families know each other. They were 12 years old. Our families know each other. They're so intertwined, like you're best friends with Michael's little sister. Like there's so many different dynamics like that. And we've been together, you know, for the last 10 years. And it wasn't a hasty decision. The way she was made was just with so much love and so
Starting point is 00:39:22 much history. And so I think that that gives the whole situation another dynamic. I don't know if it's good or bad or what it is, but it makes it very special. But I will say at the same time, like there's a million things he does that annoy the fuck out of me. I wrote an eight page text to you the other night because he was micromanaging me as a mom and i wrote a huge text with bullet points included to break down what was going on and when he asked that it was a fucking nightmare he tried to stick his toe to the other side of the bed to feel out how mad i was and i flicked his toe across the room she's like one of those things you know like when the college kids they put up the meme of the of guy with like the, he's getting the text that's like 50 pages long.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It's like, yeah, he's dead. But that was like me. I was like, don't screw with me. I will send you a 3 a.m. rage text. I glanced at it. No, you didn't. You read it. And if you act up, I say, please refer to bullet four.
Starting point is 00:40:17 My response was going to be that it's been so incredible to see my wife become an amazing mother. Manipulate it. And I love her so much. No, I mean, but honestly, it is a beautiful thing to watch your significant other take care of a child that you love so much.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I don't know how to explain it. Oh my God, babe, you're tearing up. Am I crying? No, I think I got a thing in my eye, but I'll cry. I'll cry if that gives me some points. But no, it is. I mean, I think like it's,
Starting point is 00:40:44 in our case, I do like it's in our case, I do believe it's brought us closer together. Quarantine's not making it easy though. So we'd be even closer, I think, if this wasn't quarantine. I'm not ready to bend over and doggy right now. I'm not feeling the hottest I've ever felt. That's being dead honest. I mean, I need to lose 25 pounds.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And when I say I need to lose, I want to rephrase. I would like to lose 25 pounds that I gained during pregnancy for me to feel my best I am constantly striving to be the best version of myself and for me I feel the best 25 pounds lighter so that's been a hurdle and also to see your body change so much is a mind fuck and I think that that's not talked about enough, which is very surprising to me. It's a lot to gain so much weight and have your hormones go completely crazy. And then you're breastfeeding and that's a whole different dynamic. And then your skin's freaking out because you have pregnancy mask and hormones and all these new pimples and you're in quarantine
Starting point is 00:41:41 and you have access to nothing. And by the way, I'm not complaining. I love my life. And I think that there's so much opportunity with this quarantine, which we can get into. And so many pros of this quarantine. And it's so incredible that my husband gets to be home on paternity leave with me, but I'm not on paternity leave. I'm just stuck in the house because I can't go to my office,
Starting point is 00:42:00 whatever you want to call it. I do think though, that the aftermath of pregnancy is not is swept under the rug this is what yes i agree with everything but you you can't of course i can i agree with you have to agree you have to say you say you agree but you don't really understand i disagree no you just should say you know what you should do you should just literally listen yeah yeah because you just don't know you just don't know. You just don't know. Maybe next question.
Starting point is 00:42:26 All right. The next question is a bit more fun. It's how did taking shrooms help you get over postpartum depression? First of all, it wasn't postpartum depression. It was anxiety. I just want to make sure that that's clear. I did not have postpartum depression.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I had postpartum anxiety. It was an anger. Yeah. And Michael. Yeah. I had a little bit of anger It was an anger. Yeah. And Michael, yeah, I had a little bit of anger, but your husband. Okay. Yeah. Everything he did annoyed me. He would, he was there. He would roll over in bed and I'd be like, do you have to roll like that? Like she was scary. What a beautiful day. You look amazing today, honey. Can't believe how great a mother you are. And then like, she'd like go and like scratch my eyes out.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's not true. That's not what I had had i had a crippling anxiety where i would get anxious over things that i normally would not get anxious over and that's pretty normal it's nothing out of the ordinary but i decided that i was going to microdose and what i'll say is that i want to bring an expert, Michael Pollan. Shout out to Michael Pollan. He wrote the book, How to Change Your Mind on the show to share the journey that I had with mushrooms and getting rid of my postpartum anxiety. I am not going to sit here and tell people to do something. I'm just sharing my journey and my experience. And I decided to microdose for my postpartum anxiety. I did it three times. I did just sharing my journey and my experience. And I decided to microdose for my
Starting point is 00:43:45 postpartum anxiety. I did it three times. I did it one time. It was gone 50%. So the anxiety went down 50%. I did another time. It went down 80%. And then I did it a third time and it's gone. There's obviously little tiny things that I also added, such as breath work, cold showers, you know, more time to myself. But what got rid of my, I'm going to say my, because I'm talking about myself, I'm not saying blanket advice, anxiety was microdosing mushrooms. Well, I would say, I won't like talk specifically about my experiences because we don't have enough time. We'll do it again in another episode. Hopefully Michael Pollan comes on. But what I would say is it strips down your ego completely so that you have the ability to objectively look at the problems or issues or challenges or hurdles that are in your
Starting point is 00:44:31 mind and in your life. It's almost like an out of body experience because that's going to freak people out. It's basically like an eagle eye perspective with no ego involved and a way for you to sit and analyze anything that's going on in your life objectively and figure out the most rational solution that also is like a self-loving solution, if that makes sense. So to me, like I look at it as a very medicinal thing and it's helped me work through many issues, challenges, problems, like, you know, ideas, things I'm stuck on that that's, and that's why I enjoy it. But I, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:05 there's also the reverse. Some people like to party on it, whatever. But I think if you use it in the way that I just described, you can actually have some pretty tremendous breakthroughs. Yeah, we definitely didn't use it in a party way. It was very medicinal, like Michael said, and we've done it before and had the most in depth, amazing conversations, I think of our relationship on it. And so this time it was a little bit more independent, but also together, but also independent. I have like a whole story around it and I want to tell that story, but I feel like we should wait for another episode to get into it. So yeah, microdosing. Until Michael Pollan comes on the book though, read his book,
Starting point is 00:45:40 How to Change Your Mind. Yeah. Read How to Change Your Mind. It's good. Audible too has it. What's next? Last question. Final question, DeeDee. This is the last one. Are you into microdosing? I liked it when I took it. I just laughed like a little kid.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It was amazing. And I looked at the stars. Did you realize that you wanted to wear fake glasses? No. I was really feeling anxiety about the quarantine. And I took it and it really helped my anxiety. It made me realize like this is just like a chapter of life like anything else. And I've been feeling better since then.
Starting point is 00:46:10 That is true because your whole outlook on the quarantine has changed since you tried it. Yeah. I hate being trapped in one place. And so it was really hard for me like at first to have to cancel trips and whatnot. But I'm feeling completely fine now. Yeah, it's weird. It's crazy what it does. I think if you go into the microdosing experience with an issue that you want to solve, it's like a ball of yarn. So the ball of yarn is all tangled up and you can really
Starting point is 00:46:36 untangle the yarn through the experience is what I've found. That's a good way to put it. Because it strips down your ego and makes it so it's not all about you and you can look at things objectively. That's what, that's what, like that's in a nutshell what it does. So for people that need help with that or need help breakthroughs, like have a, have a, like a mind tangle going on, like it's definitely beneficial if you go into it with an intention of wanting to heal. I also think like when you're laughing like that on mushrooms, it has to be so good for you. I always feel so great the next day.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah, you feel really good. You're not hungover at all or anything. Another thing I think is important to say, and then we can move on to the next question. I did it in nature, no blue light, no TV for eight hours, no screen. That was so important. And we were outside really reaping the benefits. If you do it and you like watch a movie, it's not going to be the same. You have to be outside. Yeah. All right. Okay. Last question. Here we go. Part one, what were you like in high school? And part two, what is advice that you would give to yourself? I'm going to, I'm going to answer what Lauren was like in high school. First of all, I don't know how she got away wearing the, I don't know how you were, your dad let you out of the house wearing
Starting point is 00:47:44 those scandalous clothes. It was way too much. I mean, way too much. Fun fact, I used to shop in the Victoria's Secret lingerie section and I would wear it as a dress. She, I think she saw Legally Blonde or something. She started bringing her chihuahua to school.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Paris Hilton day and age. Platinum blonde hair, right? Platinum blonde hair. Obsessed with me. No, that's, Michael,ael tell the truth what would you do if zaza dressed the way that lauren dressed what do you mean she would be like would you i'd be like i would like chain her to a wall i used to put it in my purse and change in the bathroom like you aren't gonna do anything oh my god he's freaking out yeah that's stressful yeah i don't
Starting point is 00:48:18 know what was she all she was do you know we used to piss me off about lauren because i knew because so i met lauren when we were 12 and everyone knows that story now, but then we broke up and she used to put on this like dumb bimbo act, right? It was like a, I don't, can you say bimbo? People are gonna be pissed,
Starting point is 00:48:33 whatever bimbo. She has a bimbo, bimbo idiot. She wasn't, she used to act like that. And it used to drive me nuts because I knew her and I'm like, why are you, why are you acting like you're like stupid everybody?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Why are you acting like a bimbo? I like saying bimbo. Why were you so obsessed then? Well, no, it drove me nuts because I was like, why are you acting like you're stupid to everybody? Why are you acting like a bimbo? I like saying bimbo. I'm probably going to get in trouble for saying bimbo. Why were you so obsessed then? It drove me nuts because I was like, okay, there's a really smart girl. I always, back me up on this, I always believed in Lauren and I saw her potential from the very beginning. And it used to drive me nuts because I'm like, why are you doing that?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Because I just like to play games in high school. But meanwhile, she was getting A's and B's and was like, you know, cruising through. That doesn't make me smart what grades I was getting. That's not what it was. The older girls picked on her a lot. I got picked on so bad. I got my car keyed. I got my car written on with marker, my tires slashed, houses toilet papered, you know, names the whole works she made herself a moving target though with those outfits and the blonde i didn't care though you know what's funny is i just kept doing whatever the fuck i wanted to do and i just did not give them any energy and that made them get more mad yeah i would they would call me names and i just would act like i would just be like
Starting point is 00:49:38 it's so insignificant what are you doing kicking the floor down there i told you i'm getting excited talking about high school yeah are you all right do you need to talk to someone i also just i feel like i didn't listen to the rules i just was on katie maloney's podcast of vanderpump rules and she asked me this question i one one year i just i don't know if you remember this i just decided one day that i was going to start bringing my lab and my chihuahua to school yeah so i just walked on campus that no one could do anything because there was no rule that you couldn't bring your dog to school so the teachers didn't know what to do they were flabbergasted 100 there was a rule that you could not do that and the teachers
Starting point is 00:50:12 did do something no they didn't my lab sat in english with me i had this teacher in high school because we went to the same high school and he saw my last name he's like oh i remember your sister she used to bring the chihuahua to class all the time i would sneak the chihuahua in my bag we used to sneak around we could say that now it's enough enough times past yeah we used to sneak around we got a kid together and probably our exes yeah but i i was not into you like which made you even more into me you were we just talked about this you were kind of into me i was aloof i would think i would say i was aloof in high school that's a good word you had your you dipped your toe into Michael to being interested. That sounds terrible.
Starting point is 00:50:47 No, I dipped my toe in and I was like, okay, like, you know, this is a little too short. This is lukewarm. No, I was very like, I was very aloof in high school. I think that's a good word. Lauren, if I go 10 minutes down the road, you're hitting me on speed dial. Mimi, back me up. It's true. Lauren was on the deck for like 30 minutes earlier and she FaceTime called us 10 times.
Starting point is 00:51:04 That's because Zaza needed a passy you are fucking obsessed okay whatever you like whatever when he went out of town and you called him like truly 10 times in one day that's because i was pregnant and sober and bored no that was like two years ago no she's she's obsessed i do like to annoy you know she's a freak i'm not obsessed i was aloof like like I said, and I was really unstimulated. And I've talked about this a lot. I wish in high school that they would teach classes on delegation and being a boss and working for yourself and money management and all these things. I was bored with algebra and history class.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And I'm being honest, and Michael's going to get mad that I'm saying this. Why would I get mad? Because you me to like really be into history but oh i wish that i could be learning more about entrepreneurship and and looking back that's what i think i was you want to know about entrepreneurship yes read history read people that have done it before i knew i was gonna say that i told you i know so no but it's true i mean like people like oh what was michael bostick like in high school i was the worst no you it's true i mean like people like oh what was michael bostick like in high school i was the worst no you weren't no i mean in like school i was the worst i was constantly yeah i was you know that i was constantly getting kicked out cd student sometimes
Starting point is 00:52:14 b's but like definitely like a two point something student was not not a good student did not give a shit about any of the classes at all that's all true didn't care just to fight i was too busy doing my own thing but i'm sure that you were bad in true. Didn't care. I was too busy doing my own thing, but I'm sure that you were bad in school. Terrible. I was too busy blowing you off to notice. That's not true. Love to laugh like Cruella De Vil.
Starting point is 00:52:35 You had spiked hair. Everybody had spiked hair then. You loved protein powder. No, that was later. No, that was later. That was in college. I loved protein powder. In college later.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I feel like you wore those shirts that have like the stripes on them. What's that called? A pinstripe. No, that was later. That was in college. I loved protein powder. You loved protein powder. In college later. I feel like you wore those shirts that have like the stripes on them. What's that called? A pinstripe? No, I never wore a pinstripe. No, that was seventh grade. There was a picture of you. You know the one I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It's like at your mom's house in a frame. No, my style. Which one? Back me up. My style hasn't really changed that much since high school. It's like literally been like- Oh, your style was awful in high school. No, no.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You think- No, it's so much better now. You're thinking of elementary school. Go back. No, I'm not. I'm thinking of high school. No, it was really like black jeans, t-shirts, Converse. I wore Converse back then a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Okay. Yeah, that was a nice school picture. She just pulled up a picture. Yeah, okay, great. Okay, well, it's not good, you guys. He's wearing a pinstripe shirt, like I said. It's not pinstripe. It's a straight black shirt.
Starting point is 00:53:18 You were a part of the popular crowd in our grade, but at the same time, you were very unaffected by it so i feel like you were friends with everybody and you didn't didn't um lead with the fact that you were popular you weren't an asshole and you were never ever ever and i hope that you will say the same thing about me maybe you won't maybe you will you were never ever ever a bully no i would punch a bully in the nose. Yeah. Neither of us were bullies.
Starting point is 00:53:47 No, I think like, you know, that's why I'm so quick to like clap back at people if they're being bullies. We're all about like justice and fairness. Both of us have always been like that. And I dated older guys. I was hanging out with the, oh, Michael's getting jealous. I'm not jealous. Why would I be jealous?
Starting point is 00:54:04 I'm a little jealous. I literally have a child with you. He's getting jealous i'm not why would i be jealous i'm a little jealous i literally have a child he's getting flashbacks jealous little jealous slightly jealous okay so i would have known all the things that i know now maybe i would have been like hey guy you take care of this really yeah i mean listen you're a handful you know what i laugh and i like i think if you and i split up i'm like good luck to the next poor guy that's got to put up with this train because you're a lot you are at least i'm this train because you're a lot. You are a lot. At least I'm not boring. No, you're not boring, but you are a lot.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I'm not boring. Honestly, I would be like, if any other guy be like, yeah, good. You want to go for a week. Let's see how you last, buddy. Oh, okay. Is that a challenge? It's not a challenge. I'm just saying like, good luck, buddy. Okay. Is there any other fun bullets you want to talk about in high school? Is there anything? You know, I have a really difficult time remembering back that far. What about the advice you were going to give to yourself? The advice that I would give to myself is this is so annoying, but I would is have more time,
Starting point is 00:54:57 introspective time, like have more time thinking about what makes me happy and what makes me tick. I think I sort of floated through high school without really zoning in on what the void was. And the void was that I was interested in potentially running my own business. So by the time I got to college, I was forced in this box and had to be tied in this box of television broadcaster. And I think the advice would be, don't listen to all the outside noise. Let my intuition dictate where I was going. I mean, my advice is kind of in line with that. I would basically go back.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Is this the assumption, knowing what I know now? Yes. I would say, and this is not a knock on teachers, but maybe the school system in general, I would go back and say, literally half of this stuff that they're teaching is not going to be relevant to your career path later on. And so my problem is, is that you learn, there's a lot of like, let's say
Starting point is 00:55:50 like calculus, like I get it. You have to learn basic math skills or like, I mean, at one point I was in some class about like mapping city streets, like what the fuck was that about? You know, like there's just certain things that like electively you have to do. And like these, you know, they try to put the best curriculums together but i think if i could go back i would say zone in on the things that you're 100 interested in that drive you they get you excited and just focus on that and let the other shit go by the wayside i don't think kids can do that though because then they flunk out of school and they can't progress and like that's part of the problem is it's built on this system where like you can't get to the next level unless you check a box that the system has put in place
Starting point is 00:56:23 which is not the way life works sometimes it's okay though to question the system and the status quo. There's nothing wrong with that. But what I'm saying is where I empathize with young kids now is they kind of, you have to check a box in order to progress within that system. And like for young kids, for example, in high school, like if you get held back, like you literally cannot progress. So I think that's kind of like a flawed way that the school system set up. I think like you should be able to kind of go and it's not it's not listen, I don't have the answer to the system. All I'm saying is that there's a lot of stuff in there that I wish I would have let fall by the wayside and focused on more of
Starting point is 00:56:52 the things that I later had to learn. Like I had to go tell self, for example, I didn't know anything about accounting. They didn't really teach you that I didn't know anything about investing. They don't teach you that I didn't know anything about how to set up a business or do taxes. You know, they don't teach you about mortgages. They don't teach you how to like buy a property. They don't even teach you what a refinery. They don't. There's so many things that they don't teach you in school that are applicable to your day to day life.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And it's stuff that you later have to go and figure out. So I wish that I would have taken more time instead of like, you know, finger painting class or whatever the fuck we're doing or like city mapping class. One time in finger painting class, my ex-boyfriend painted a giant dick on the bottom of his shoe and he walked around all over school with this dick and there was dick paintings all over everywhere that was funny that was funny yeah he learned that i don't know why you're bringing him up i'm just kidding also i just want to say that i learned and i said this on katie's podcast today i learned more being in the restaurant industry from the ages of 14 to 26 than I learned in school. I learned how to multitask. I learned how to deal with different energies, different personalities. I learned how to do while doing
Starting point is 00:57:56 a million things at once, also being effective. I think I just learned people skills. So that's an interesting fact. Mimi, I would love to know to know even though i already know what you were like in high school and what you would tell yourself 10 years ago before we go in high school i feel like you guys knew me one year ago no i'm gonna be 23 next week so that's gonna be like seven years ago i would tell myself to learn a new language. Ooh. For sure. Like instead of wasting all my time like doing other stuff, I'd learn a new language. Yeah. I smoked a lot of weed. I don't regret that though.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It was fun. Okay. Do you still do that? Yeah, I still smoke weed. Not as much though. And I would tell myself to study abroad in college. Yeah, that was a miss for me too. And probably start investing younger or managing my money better i think you're okay you're only 23 no but you see now because i would teaching me
Starting point is 00:58:52 me how to do it a little bit and i'm telling you like if somebody would have taught me like nobody teach me that nobody said like hey you get a little bit extra cash like this what you do with it everyone's like hey put in your stupid savings account and you're gonna get like you know like okay but it's our job as people to go out and find more information and read books. You can't blame someone for that. Yes, but I'm not blaming someone. I'm blaming the way we've set up our school system. It's not necessarily,
Starting point is 00:59:15 like there's some good parts of it. There's a lot of it that's just not applicable to the real world. It's just the fact. I wish that part, I actually think it would be beneficial for kids not to be able to go to college right after high school. Like maybe they get out of high school and then they have to
Starting point is 00:59:27 go work for two years and then they actually kind of figure out during that process what they actually like to do. Then they go back to college and pick, you know, the course they want. Because the stuff that I studied, I have no clue about it. If I would have gone, if I would have gone and worked and found my path, I would have gone back. I would have studied something completely different. Okay. So tonight for your studies, I want you to read the book called why I'm utterly obsessed with my wife and do whatever she says and why I fan her and feed her grapes when she wakes up. Okay, great. Yeah. I mean, we can dig up that old regional development degree from the University of Arizona and hang it on the wall since that's serving me so well. Not that I didn't have fun.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I had a lot. If your parents are paying for college, just go to college because they're paying for it. It's on their dime. And we just go party your face off and have fun and meet people. That's good. Especially if you go to like an Ivy League school, that's going to make good connections. But if you have to take on all the bills yourself right out of high school and you don't know what you want to do, maybe take some time off because student debt is a real thing. Okay. Well, Mimi, where can everyone stalk you on Instagram? I'm on Instagram, Mimi Everett's with two S's because Instagram won't give me Mimi Everett's with one S.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And I'm also on Twitter, Mimi Everett's with two S's as well, just to keep it cohesive. She fucking loves Twitter, you guys. Yeah, Twitter is like where it's at. She's popping her fucking puss on Twitter. I blocked her on Twitter. Yeah, I posted a picture of Michael when he was dressed up as a girl
Starting point is 01:00:46 when he was 11 and he blocked me. I blocked your ass. Are you kidding? Oh, maybe I'm a blocker. You should have taken a class on how to take a joke. So immature. They didn't teach me that.
Starting point is 01:00:54 They didn't teach me in school. And with that, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. It was a fun Q&A. We will do more. Make sure you call into the hotline 1-833-SKINNYS
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