The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Liv Perez - Closet Staples To Elevate Your Style & Closet Cleaning Advice

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

#713: Today Lauryn is sitting down with Liv Perez. Liv first came on the scene in 2017 as a fashion “it girl” and has since become a go-to voice for those seeking style advice. Today she joins Lauryn for a conversation surrounding personal style, how to elevate your looks, and closet staples for every wardrobe and style. She also discusses how to recognize an investment piece, all things accessorizing, and her opinions on dressing for trends. To connect with Liv Perez click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is brought to you by Beis Beis has thought of everything you could ever want in a piece of luggage...360 degree gliding wheels, a cushioned handle, built-in weight indicator, washable bags for your dirty clothes, and all the interior pockets you need to keep organized. Go to beistravel.com/skinny for 15% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Delta Airlines Delta Airlines believes you should feel at home, even if you're 30,000 feet above it. Learn more at delta.com Produced by Dear Media

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Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. If you're someone that is having a hard time getting dressed every day, but you have that jean goatee blazer pointed toe shoe, you can really go anywhere. That's like a great just kind of capsule to have. Even if you're someone who's not interested in fashion, like get that in a bunch of different colors and you're going to look great every day. But then find that one accessory that's you. Maybe that's like a really cool earring from Heaven Mayhem. Maybe that's a bag that you love. For me, the accessory is a classic black bag that looks good with everything that I have in my closet, that if I'm running out the door, I pick it up and I go. But for you,

that might be a really cool earring or a great bracelet. It just has to be this accessory that is true to your personal style that can let you shine through in your everyday clothes. Today, I decided to kick Michael off the show. I just felt like he wasn't relevant for this episode. You know what I mean? He doesn't need to be on every show. We're sitting down with Liv Perez. She is a fashion it girl. People love to go to Liv for seeking style advice. And I had a conversation with her that surrounded personal style,

how to elevate your look, closet staples, how to do a clean out, how to reorganize, what closet staples, how to do a clean out, how to reorganize, what to invest in, classic accessories. And I just asked her all of these super girly fashion questions that we all want to know. What I like about this episode personally is I just recently did a closet clean out and she actually inspired me to do this. And then what I did is I took inventory of my closet. I took every single piece in my closet, took a picture of it. I'm putting it in a Dropbox currently. If anyone has a good app, let me know.

And I am going to have a shared Dropbox album of my clothes. So if I ever want to be styled or I need to share my wardrobe, it's just all efficiently organized. And this was all inspired by Liv. Liv also has a podcast on Dear Media called Let's Get Dressed. And she's interviewed some major fashion it girls. So she really, really knows what it takes to have a look, to have a go-to style. And I think nowadays, it's even more important to have a brand and have a point of view have a go-to style. And I think nowadays it's even more important to have a brand and have a point of view when it comes to your style. You guys also have to check out

the episode that I'm on. She grills me on all things fashion. On that note, let's welcome the one and only Liv Perez to the show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. I am kicking Michael off some episodes lately. I'm kicking him off the episodes that are for the girls. Like, I just don't think that we need to hear the monologue from him when it comes to some things. And fashion's one of them. I think it's important to know when your voice is needed and when it's not. A hundred percent. Coming from the podcasters. Today, it's just, we just don't need them. I went on your podcast, Let's Get Dressed. I had the best time and you asked me all these questions that I hadn't been asked before. And it was fun and it was, it was girly and feminine. And so I'm really excited to have you on our podcast today. So welcome,

Liv, to the podcast. Thank you. It's an honor. As I call the queen mother of Jamedia. Happy to be here. You hear that, Taylor? Take a picture. Okay. First of all, let's talk about the five closet staples that are non-negotiable that people have to have. And we're going to gear this towards women. Great. I would start with a great everyday shoe that's elevated. That's not a sneaker. And I say that because as I just turned 30, I feel like the way I'm dressing every day is, you know, not like I'm running to college classes anymore. I want to look elevated. I'm going to meetings. I'm, here to record a podcast. And say a friend wants to have dinner right afterwards. I want to be able to go from here to there and not

to have to go to home and change. One thing with shoes that I really recommend for people is getting a pointed toe flat because that pointed toe really gives you that height elevation and can really transform any look. Versus today, you can see I'm kind of wearing a ballet flat. It's like a rounded toe. They're Chanel, so they work for anything in my opinion. But the pointed toe would make this look a little bit more versatile for day to night. So a pointed toe flat could have like a one or two inch heel if you want. But that to me is the perfect everyday shoe that gets you everywhere. I think obviously, and this is something I've talked about on my pod a lot, a good pair of jeans can change your whole life. And I think people really underestimate how important it is to find your fit and your wash that works with everything in your closet that I would rotate to, but not one that I'd go in my closet every morning and be like, I'm putting this pair on and it goes with everything in my closet and it makes my body look amazing. And I finally found that pair at the beginning of this year and it has dramatically

changed the way I get dressed. What's the brand? They're from Anina Bang. They're called the Gavin Jeans. For my body type, I have really long legs, short torso. They're high-waisted. They stop at my ankles. They really elongate me, and they look great. Can I tell you something? I don't know how to pronounce anything. I thought it was Annie Bing. So everybody does. Oh, okay. Yes. I believe she's Swedish. I only recently learned that it's Anina. Okay. But yes, it's Anina Bing. Okay. Is there a certain cut, or are all the jeans good? I really love all their jeans, but the one that I'm specifically talking about that's worked for my body shape is the Gavin jean.

They're that cropped style. But for you, you're a little bit taller. And every time I see you, you're in like a floor length kind of boot cut jean. And I love that style on you. It's really about preference in my mind when it comes to denim. And also I would say wash.

Like the wash that works for me in my closet might not work for you in your closet. I like a little bit of a darker jean, a little bit more of like a true blue denim, but you might love a light wash and that might go with the tones in your closet. So I really recommend finding that pair that one works proportionally with your body and then also tonally with your closet. After that, I would say a black blazer can get you anywhere in life. You and I talked about that a lot on the pod, whether it was our sweat pant and blazer era or even now, like just going to meetings. If you are wanting to splurge big time, the Dior bar jacket is the best jacket on planet Earth. There is truly nothing better in my mind.

The fit, the shape, the construction is elite. But obviously, that's not the only one I have in my closet. I also love ones from Aritzia. The shape is really great. The quality is great. And you can probably get that for around $250 versus the price tag on a Dior bar jacket. So I would say a great blazer. After that, I would say a great tee. If white's not your a great tea if white's not your color a great black tea great great tea whatever it is whatever your tea color is you and I talked about

teas a lot you love the Spanx ones right Spanx loungewear sets okay it wasn't that white tea I'm James Pierce oh wow really James Pierce Really? James Pierce. Yeah. Or it's Pierce. I should know that. Oh, fuck. I'm scared to speak because everyone gets mad. Or Victoria Beckham makes a great tea in the row. That's good to know. St. Laurent has a great black oversized tea. Go on.

I haven't tried those. I like Shop RLT, which is a female run store in Los Angeles. She curates amazing vintage and also has an incredible line of basic. She's on Beverly Boulevard across from Air One, which is very convenient for probably a lot of you listening. And I also love Eternay, which I know you love too. That brand, we have to stay here for one second. That was my first job in fashion. I worked for her and her twin sister as a stylist assistant. She has an eye for how to flatter the body yes there's something that she does in those clothes that is it's not it's not like flattering it's the ultimate flatter yes i think for having styled people for a decade plus she really knows how to construct clothes that lay well for long periods

of time i'm sure a lot of you have had those experiences where you put something on in the morning and by the afternoon, it doesn't look quite right. Like it's stretched a little bit. It's wrinkled a little bit. Like I think her tees have great longevity and elasticity. And that's what you want in a tee. Like you want that feeling that it's going to last. Also, this is weird, but like the blouses, she designs a little longer to cover the hands, which makes your arm look longer. Or she does like something to the shoulder that like makes your shoulders flattered. It's very, very unique the way she designs. And it makes so much sense that she was a stylist for so long and that you worked for her. That's very full circle. Yes. And then I would say

the last one is I'll take it broad, but I'll also kind of go micro in terms of what works in my closet. I would say it needs to be like an accessory that makes an outfit you like, for example, if you're someone that is having a hard time getting dressed every day, but you have that jean good tea blazer pointed toe shoe, you can really go anywhere. That's like a great just kind of capsule capsule to have. Even if you're someone who's not interested in fashion, like get that in a bunch of different colors and you're going to look great every day. But then find that one accessory that's you. Maybe that's like a really cool earring from Heaven Mayhem. Maybe that's a bag that you love. For me, the accessory is a

classic black bag that looks good with everything that I have in my closet. But if I'm running out the door, I pick it up and I go. But for you, that might be a really cool earring or a great bracelet. It just has to be this accessory that is true to your personal style that can let you shine through in your everyday clothes. What's a high and low black bag that's amazing? Great question. My high is the Saint Laurent Manhattan bag.

I love this bag. People kind of call it the Hermes Birkin dupe or Kelly dupe because it has those clasps in the front. But it's really chic and bag. I love this bag. People kind of call it the like Hermes Birkin dupe or Kelly dupe because it has those like clasps in the front, but it's really chic and refined and honestly looks good with everything in my closet. And I know will long-term. I also have a saying that if you love something and it works, buy it in every color. And I have with that bag, I have it in a lot of different colors because it just hits. And like, you know, that feeling when something hits, like it just feels so good. And you're like, yep, that's me. So that's that bag for me. I would say affordable. I've got to think on that one. I have to think too. Yeah, I actually

do because I'm not going to lie from a personal perspective. Bags are investment pieces for me, and I will usually go a little bit more elevated. I will say if you're someone who likes designer bags and they're out of reach for you or they're not something you like to invest in, Anthropologie makes incredible bags. They, first of all, curate a really great affordable selection. I'd say like $250 to $500 range. They do make great dupes, I will say. I've been on there quite a few times and seen some really similar designer moments. And I also like the quality of their bags. Every time I've gotten something from them, I've been like this. This is great. And it's very accessible and fashion forward, which I like. When I was in college and I was on a huge budget, I would go in Forever 21. And if you just get a plain white or black or gray bag from Forever 21, I remember I

had like this like, I don't even know what the shape is, like a huge like half moon shape. And it was just gray and it was plain and it fit everything. And I used it all the time. Like you can you can be savvy on a budget. Absolutely. I with my style, there are moments where I like to invest in things, especially where I'm at right now in my life. I like to buy pieces that I'm investing in for the long run. That's where I'm at. But five years ago, I was not at the point that I'm at. And I do the Today Show now and I share fashion trends and different looks with millions of viewers on the show. And the one thing that I'm really passionate about when I'm doing that is everything's under $100. Everything is for that approachable, accessible fashion lover.

And I really do believe that style comes from within. It's not about the price tag that you're wearing. And there have been many times where I've gotten incredible outfits from brands like Mango and H&M and just taken it to my local tailor at my dry cleaner and made it fit my body really well. And people have been like, where's that suit from? It's amazing. And I was able to say, yeah, I spent, you know, maybe $100 on it and just nipped and tucked it a little bit in a great way that flatters me. And that's what I really think fashion's about. It's a savvy business. What are a couple things under $100 that you think are just insane? Insane in what way?

They just, they're great. You talk about them on the Today Show. Like, what are things that you're just like, you know what? This is an amazing dupe. It's under $100. I need. So one, I would say two brands that I look at frequently when I'm doing the Today Show. One is actually Abercrombie. They did a major rebrand this year and everything that they have on that website is really great, especially with summer coming up and like wedding season coming up. Abercrombie actually has an entire section of like best dressed wedding guests items. And it's very good. Men's linen suits that are amazing, amazing women's dresses. So that's what I would say if you're looking for great everyday clothes. I also would shout out brands like Tony Bianco, which is a little bit higher than $100, but also does a great job of having

what I like to call designer-inspired pieces, but without the price tag. Those, I think, usually are about $200, $250. But I've shared them a lot on my Instagram because a lot of my followers will come to me and say, hey, I'm looking for a more affordable version of this. And that's a brand that I like to share a lot. Lastly, J.Crew is killer. J.Crew went through also a big rebrand in the past year and their creative director, Olympia Gayo, which I don't know when this episode is coming out, but she'll be on Let's Get Dressed very soon. She's someone who I deeply admire in the fashion industry and has really changed that brand. And the pieces are so good for every day. But also, I remember this past holiday season, which was six months ago already now, but they had such good holiday. Like, they had, like, the sequin red skirt with the red

sweater and everything was at a great price point. So, those brands that are heritage American brands, I think, don't overlook them because maybe you've heard about them your entire life. They really are doing great stuff in fashion right now. There is this this top that one of my stylists, Emily Lafayette, was wearing and it was like it had like a shoulder pad and it was short sleeve and it was red and it had gold buttons on it. And she was wearing it on her birthday. And I was like like what brand is that it's so cute she's like it's J.Crew I went on it might have been like more long sleeve not short sleeve sorry and I went on and I got it in blue too like you said you're like buy different colors it looks it looks like it's two thousand dollars yeah they make some great stuff I also want to

shout out two other brands that I think do really fashion-forward stuff. One of them is a brand that I'm actually not sure how it's pronounced. It's NA-KD, so naked. I think they're based in Sweden. I'm not sure. They're somewhere in Europe. But they have really affordable pieces that are at a great price point. Oh, and Mango. Mango is, in my opinion, if you are...

If like the Zara H&Ms of the world is where you look, I would really recommend looking at Mango because I think that they're in the same price point, but they have a little bit more of a design edge to it. They just did an unbelievable collaboration with Victoria Beckham. And, you know, me and Whitney Port at Dear Media IRL this weekend, we're wearing the entire collection because we had just gotten it and loved it. And it looked so good. You looked adorable. That was Tori Burch, but Whitney was during her panel, during our panel was wearing the Victoria Beckham mango blazer and it looked amazing. Very, very, very cute, I must say. Something that I personally am obsessed with is tones. I feel like every time I see you, I'm like tones. When I was

little, like I remember like looking at certain books or colors in the crayon box and like putting tones together. I like love tones. And even on Instagram, like it has, it just has to be the right tone for me. And I think that this is something that's not talked about enough when it comes to clothes. Walk us through tones. So I'm going to be totally real here. I think tones is like a life journey that everyone's on.

Yeah. It's a little difficult for me now when I go on social media and I see everybody doing kind of the tone, the tone girl who's going through and doing the color toning. Sorry, I'm making this motion because, you know, she like goes through and does the different colors. I just feel like personal style and fashion is an evolution and something that you figure out through life. There's never a period on the end of it. And I never really want to be

restricted to not wearing one thing because someone said that that tone doesn't work for me. Something you and I have also talked about is that you have to take into account that your tone could change. Like even today, I sat down and I said, you dyed your hair. And I only noticed that because your face looked warmer because of your hair color. So tone changes. And, you know, I get spray tans. I know you do too. Like even my tone changes then.

So I am slightly weary of the like color scheming situation because of the fact that, you know, we are not like, we're not in a constant state of the same thing all the time. Change my color, change my skin tone, you know, we are not like we're not in a constant state of the same thing all the time. Change my color, change my skin tone, you know, do a spray tan, all that kind of changes. I will say, though, that something that I did this year that I really liked was I actually went in my closet and something I do passionately is clean out my closet. And when I clean out my closet, I make a very conscious effort to give myself enough time

in the day where I can try on everything as I'm cleaning out. So my routine is that I wish I could delegate that. I totally get it. For me, it's something that is like kind of it's like self-care for me. I really enjoy doing it and it's not for everybody, but I make an effort to try everything on. And while I'm doing that, I'm taking photos of myself in the mirror. And that's a really good way to see if a tone works for you. I think IRL, you can't really tell if it's hitting. But in a photo, you'll be able to be like, that washes me out a lot. For me and my skin tone, I stay away from pastels.

So like a light green, a light beige, like those don't really work for me. And again, I think that that's something that you have to do your own kind of trial and error with and know that you can go do these like color swatching things, but it's don't limit yourself to just that and really do it based on like what actually feels good for you. And like when you see a picture of yourself, what you like. All right. I am traveling this week. And one thing that I never forget to travel with is base. Base has this cosmetic bag and I actually don't use it for my cosmetics. I use it for my skincare. It fits every piece of my skincare in this beautiful bag and it organizes it and it just makes me feel efficient and effective because I can be kind of a chaotic traveler.

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color toning tests for me kind of that's where it loses its merit, because that also is a valuable point. It's like, oh, you know, in the summer when I'm a bit tanner, like that will look great. And I bet you if she did a color test on me, she'd be like, orange isn't your color. But if I put it on in the summer, like I love how I feel in orange. So I always, I think of fashion from a point of how it makes you feel. And maybe that's a little bit emotional. And I know that you come from it from a very scientific, so we can meet halfway here. But for me, it's about what, what makes you feel good. And like, if orange makes you feel good and she told me I can't wear orange, I'm still going to wear orange. I love it. Be brutal with the next question I'm going to ask you. Okay. What are things that you just think are out?

Like you were just like, no. Like what are things that's just dated? It doesn't. And be really honest. Like we're not hurting anyone's feelings. I want to know what you look at and you're just like, that's a miss. I don't love the mesh shoe moment right now. It's not really for me.

The mesh shoe. How like, you know not really for me. The mesh shoe. How like, you know, and that happened about a year ago. Aliyah came out with a mesh ballet flat where you can like see people's toes. Yeah, I could go without seeing toes. Yeah, I don't love it. Again, it doesn't work with my personal style, but we had Gab Waller on the podcast at the top of the year and asked her,

you know, what she was predicting to be a huge trend for the year. And she blew my mind when she said that in the prior year, 2023, her number one biggest seller was a mesh ballet flat from Aliyah. I was shocked by that over like all the incredible bags over the Miu Miu's over like the top sellers in fashion. It was the mesh ballet flat. But don't you think this and this is like, I don't want to do what everyone's doing. Like, I'll give you an example.

When the mob wife thing came out, I'm like, I'm going to retire my fur coats for a while. Do you know what I mean? Like, I just it's like, I don't want to look like everyone all the time. I think this is one you're in social media. So when this stuff comes up in front of you, it can feel very overwhelming. And I have had that, too. I can also recognize that, like like not everyone's in social media and some people enjoy that point of inspiration. One thing I will say with trends like that that we see on Instagram is that one thing I'm very conscientious of talking about with even my audience right now and personal style in the

day and age of social media is that I think we've gotten a little too comfortable with seeing an outfit on TikTok, Instagram and Pinterest and like copy pasting all everything that you see tagged and buying that exact outfit and wearing it yourself. It's like there's no like personal style to it. Well, it's a good thing and a bad thing because I think fashion inspiration is amazing in every form. But I think we've gotten a little comfortable with just, you know, taking part in the trends that we're seeing and the looks that we're seeing on Instagram. And that for me, I think is the slippery slope of trends and things that are in on Instagram. Look, if you were to say to me, Liv, I love these mesh shoes. Like I had not even thought about them before. And now that they're big, I'm seeing them everywhere. I got them from my closet

and I loved them. Great. All the power to you. But for me, I want to be able to say like, that's not my style. That doesn't work for me and like not feel like I have to give in to wear it. I love that. Is there any other misses that you think are just not it? I'm still surprised when I see a skinny jean. A skinny jean? Talk to me about that. A skinny jean?

I'm still surprised when I see like a very skin tight skinny jean. I feel like we've I feel like there are no, what about a boot cut? Like what about a high waist? Like, I just think that jeans in the past five years, like think of how many different styles have come out. Like I see a lot more boot cuts. I see you in a boot cut a lot. I see the low rise, which I think right now has had a very great, a very different iteration than in the early 2000s when I think it promoted a very not healthy standard of body image. Today, I see a lot more different stylings of low-rise jeans. I just think there's more to play with. And not to say, by the way, if you love skinny jean, I am here for you. I ride for you. I love it. But I think a lot of people still feel stuck in that and haven't branched out to try anything new because that's like the thing that they love. What are little things that you

think really make an outfit and can you get detailed on it? For instance, like what what's the belts to wear if we want to be flattered? Like what the earrings, the accessories, the hair, the nails, like all the little things. So there was a trend going around on TikTok for a while that I absolutely loved that was, you know, someone going in front of the camera and the caption would say, this is why style makes all the difference. And it would be someone in a white tee, jeans, a blazer and like a black and maybe no shoes yet. Right. And then all of a sudden it would it would, you know, do that like cute transition on TikTok where it would be like like, you know, you'd see the look and then it would like change

to a completely new moment. And it would be, you know, a high-waisted jean with a belt that cinched at the waist. So it gave you a little bit of a great proportion. It would be a beautiful dangly earring that, or like any type of earring that you like that matched the belt. I do think that if you're, I'm not a big, I like mixing metals if it's like a, you know, say for example, you're wearing a tennis bracelet that has like white diamonds in it, but the base of the tennis bracelet's gold. I don't like mixing, like for example, I would say

never wear a gold watch with like a giant silver earring. Got it. That's too crazy. So it sounds like you like like a dainty situation. Like I'm wearing a silver watch, but I have little gold rings. That's fine. That to me is fine. I just, if you were wearing this silver watch right now and you had giant gold earrings on, I'd be like, that's not working. Don't you also feel like there's it's competing? Yes. Like, yeah, it's it's I don't like for this is like a different scenario, but like when it's like a red lip and like dark eyeshadow. Exactly. It's like, I feel like you need to pick.

You pick a moment. And I completely agree with that makeup moment. That feels too heavy for me, but I also feel like it competes. I also have a rule that if you're wearing a belt, that belt needs to match your shoes. That's my, that's a me thing. Again, personal style is personal to everybody.

But if I'm wearing a brown belt, I'm wearing brown shoes and probably a brown bag with it. Do you like the sandwich method? What's the sandwich method? This thing on TikTok where they want the... Arielle, Google it so we know exactly what it is. I think it's the shirt has to match the shoes.

No, I don't love that. Huh? Yeah, because... You should do a TikTok on it. I'm going to. So what if I'm wearing like a white t-shirt and like my black ballet flats i love trends like that that start on tiktok because again i think my favorite thing about fashion is that you can have zero part in it you can have zero idea what's going on in the fashion world not know a single name brand

but at the end of the day you still have to get up every day and put something on that makes you feel good that presents yourself to the world so So no matter what, if you're like, oh, I don't follow fashion, you kind of have to. And it's like that universal language that everyone on this planet has to pay attention to. Every culture, every way of dressing, no matter what, we all care about feeling our best at the end of the day. And that's why I love it so much. And so when trends like this happen on TikTok, I value those because there are some people who it's not, like there are so many people and so many people in my community

who I've connected with that it's not easy for them to get dressed every day. It's not second nature to them. And they need tips like that to figure it out. It makes it digestible. Yes, and I love that. Like I love when people come up with those systems. I haven't heard of it.

So I even love that I'm, maybe I'll try it. Maybe. I feel like you should stitch it and try it and do it. Yeah. Okay. This one is one of my favorite questions. What are the most flattering things that you could do? And I mean, like, so flattering. Like, is it the tightest belt? Is it a long sleeve shirt? What like what are the like, tell us the most flattering things. And you know for me like after I had a baby like I was like fuck what do I wear? Like I felt like I'm rolling around like a roly-poly. Like what are the flattering flattering things? Yeah I mean I'm gonna give you guys something that costs no money at all because I think it's not about that when you're getting dressed. Your hair can change your whole outfit. Your hair can literally change everything about what you're wearing. If you are wearing just a blazer and a white tee

and jeans and you throw your hair up in a bun, if that looks good on you, if that's not your cup of tea, we can find you something else. But for me, that's always been a really easy way to make something feel maybe a little bit more sophisticated or give it a different life. And I've actually done so many videos on my social media where you can see me go from like day to night. And usually the day is like my hair down a little bit more casual. And then as I'm changing tonight, my hair goes back and I'm throwing on like a gorgeous earring that makes my skin and hair and eyes glow. And I think for me, that's always been my best styling hack is like what you do around this like top half area that kind of gives you a different life. And that's why, again, I was saying earlier that like one of my favorite things that you need in your closet is a really good accessory, like a really good earring that is kind of your go-to. And I actually love the advice that you gave on Let's Get Dressed where, you know, you were talking about the different metals and how they impact your eyes. Like if you're tired, not to, you know,

the reds in your eyes, like, or the yellows in your eyes will get accentuated by a gold earring. Like all of that was very valuable. How you were saying like wear a bright, bright white diamond because that brings the whites out in your teeth and your eyes. Those are all very valuable tips. Besides the earrings though, I think your eyes. Those are all very valuable tips. Besides the earrings, though, I think your hair can really make the world of difference. Like, getting a great blowout can change everything. I also think, like... And throwing my hair back and, like, has really...

Yes. It's so simple, guys, but I just think that it's a very... Paying attention to... Like, I'll give you guys a great example. Today, I'm wearing this blazer that's brown and I'm wearing, you know, a little pink sweater underneath it. If my blazer had really big shoulder pads in it, there would be a lot going on in like my shoulder, like my

shoulder face area. Pulling my hair back would allow you to just focus on those shoulder pads so that there's not those two competing elements, if that makes sense. Totally. Like you're not competing with like my hair on top of the shoulder pads. I think that the hair tip is genius. This is a really weird one and people are going to think that I'm psychotic. But if you wear a really low ponytail, it's going to bring the eye down. I never wear a low ponytail. If you're going to do a bun, you want to pull the bun back so it's pulling the eye up. You don't want the super low bun that's on the bottom of the neck because when someone looks at you, it's going to pull the eye down, which is aging. Right. So for me, whenever I ask my hairstylist

for a ponytail, I'm like, even if it's in the middle of the head, I'm like, pull up and then put it in the middle. Does that make sense? And I have. I love that you understand what I'm saying. I do. And to like kind of go deeper into that, I have like very fine thin hair. So I can really throw my hair like back to the center of my head very easily. Yes. of you who might have like thicker hair, I would take the like front, the front piece of your hair

out, throw the rest of your hair back and then position that like front piece, those front two pieces to shape your face how you would like. Like to be perpendicular to the ear as opposed to pulling it down. Yes. Like you don't, I don't like to pull anything down. I don't like to pull my eyebrow down when I'm filling it in. I like to pull it up. I don't like to pull my eyebrow down when I'm filling it in. I like to pull it up. I don't like to pull my mascara down. I like to pull it up. I don't like my eyeliner to go down. I like it to go up.

I don't want my lip liner to go. Like, I like to pull everything up. Of course. Lift it to the sky. Don't we all, guys? Like, pull everything up. I mean, I just pull it off. Bitch, you're crazy.

No, not at all. People turn it out. I love your take on fashion. Like fashion for me, it is so great because you and I are on opposite sides of the spectrum. And that's why I actually, I love every time I see you in the questions you ask me, because it's like we meet at this halfway point. And I think that that's what's most valuable to people is like, of course we want to feel good, but we also want like the data science driven way to get dressed. And there's a medium there.

You know, I think about so many outfits that I've worn or like places I've been out in the world and people will be like, oh, you look so like I often get told and I'm very grateful for this. It's very kind. But people always be like, you look so elegant or you do look very chic. And a lot of it is because I pull my hair back and I let my outfit speak for myself. I even think about right now, like I think there's a big craze of like the tiny bob. Like even at the Oscars this year, there were like 30 people in bobs. And I think the reason a lot of people like it, especially, you know,

seeing it in these red carpet moments, seeing it in street style, is because it really just lets the outfit talk. It doesn't compete with the clothes. That makes total sense. And I think the thing that I have trouble with is like there was this woman, I don't know who it was, that said, when you're over, I think, 35, you need to cut your hair. Do you remember this? It was like in the 80s. She told everyone. I can't remember

who it was. If anyone knows, like, let me know over Instagram. She said, you have to cut your hair off at a certain age. And to me, I'm like'm like no you can have your like i actually look at demi more i mean that's you know that's her real hair it's her real hair it's gorgeous it is down to the backs of her knees you guys and that's why i do think that fashion and hair whatever and beauty is so fun because you can play with it and you don't have to remember i don't know if you my mom cut her hair like all like a like a boy cut in the 90s. So did mine. And she looks fab. And now I'm kind of like. No, it's fun.

But it's like someone's telling you like you have to have this certain hairstyle or you look older. I disagree. I think like you can manipulate it how you want it, when you want it, to whatever you want it. I also think that those rules really bother me. Like I think there's a woman who I follow on Instagram who I love so her name is Vens Wifestyle on Instagram V-E-N-S Wifestyle and I think that she is in her 50s I might be wrong but she basically says like every video opens with like words on the screen saying like I'm in my 50s and this is how I style this look that Kendall Jenner just wore on the cover of Vogue. Like she gives me so much joy. And like as someone who's a fashion lover and

like it's my life and it's been my life since I was a teenager, I don't ever want to feel like I have to change my style as I get older. I always want to be able to have fun with it and feel like myself. And so she's a creator that I love because it's, you know, it makes fashion accessible. And I think it also lets people know that, you know, at any age, fashion's there. I love it. I think that is a genius. She's amazing. Before you go, I know this isn't about fashion, but I need to know your beauty, wellness,

health, diet secrets. So just sometimes I'm just like, go off. Yeah. So I am two months away from getting married when we're recording this, which is the end of the beginning of May. I'm getting married in July. And so I've been deep in the beauty world, which I feel like you've inspired me so much. First, there's a woman in LA who I love. Her name is Hannah and she does my nails once a month. And we do, I actually don't know what these are called. I think, is this a Russian mani?

I don't know. People keep telling me that it is. But it's basically a hard gel on my nails. And I do the same color every time. I do this like milky strawberry pink. And it's just helped my nails so much. Like, I also really appreciate the way that she takes it off after a month. She doesn't like scrub them off.

It's probably a Russian manicure. I think it is. Sorry, guys, that I don't know. But my nails are stronger than ever. And the fact that I don't have to go every two weeks and get them done, I think has really helped. Keep in mind, I had such brittle, terrible nails for a long time. So this is like a game changer for me. And last time you saw me too, you were like, I love your nails. Yeah, your nails look really pretty. I've just gotten them done. So that's a good one for me. Pre-wedding, I'm doing something at VH Skin, Vanessa Hernandez Skin in LA, which I love.

She does all my facials and I'm obsessed with them. They're in Brentwood. I'm doing something called the PRX Peel, which I'm sure you know. Oh, it's basically a no-peel peel. I've done it before and I absolutely love it. If you're someone like you and me who's constantly on the go in front of the camera a lot, or maybe you're in an office and you don't have the downtime for a real peel, it kind of just feels...

First of all, when you first do it, the next day, it feels like you got a sunburn. Your skin feels so tight, like unbelievably tight. And actually what I really noticed, and then, sorry, I'll explain the process. Your skin gets very tight and then three to four days later, you'll peel mildly like the sunburn's coming off.

However, you don't have the sunburn color. You don't get red, none of that. And the peeling's so manageable. Like I was out and about doing podcasts and nobody noticed. The biggest thing that I noticed, one, like my tone and texture was a lot better, but my skin was so much tighter. Like the wrinkles around my eyes, like really tightened. It kind of felt like a mini facelift. So I'm doing that every two weeks. I'm doing three in a row. Love to just get to like the bottom, like the root of my skin and give me like the freshest face pre-wedding. So I love that. I'm a big hot yoga girl. I go to heated room here in LA. I love like a sweat. I love a good sweat. And I do that probably twice a week. I'm also a big walker. I feel like walking culture in LA, like that's my time. Like it's my 45 minutes where like I'm either being productive with it, where I'm

catching up with a friend and like in the morning I'll schedule that before I start my work day. So if there's a friend who I don't get to see often, like you're kind of killing two birds with one stone. Yeah. Or I'm on a call and listen, or I'm listening to a news, news, news podcast and I walk my dog at the same time. So that's kind of where I'm at. I'm trying to a news podcast and I walk my dog at the same time. So that's kind of where I'm at. I'm trying to think other beauty things that I love. I see Matt Rez in LA for my hair, who I love. He's an icon.

He does literally everybody's hair. And I really like once a month take this one day out of my schedule to do all of my beauty things. I'll like go get the facial. I'll go do my nails. I'll go get my hair glossed. And I make a conscious effort to like do it all in one day so that I give myself that time. Like it's me time. This is like my one day to like do all the things that make me feel good. And as an entrepreneur who's like running a podcast, running my socials,

you know, writing for different magazines, all the things like having that day once a month. That's like my me time has helped. If you're like a productivity nerd like me, like that's how you get it done. I call it the car wash. Absolutely, Lauren. It's the car wash. I go through the car wash in L.A., but when I'm in Austin, the car wash is not car washing. Every time you're here, like you're doing something fab, you're getting your salmon semen facial, you're doing all the things. And yes, it's the car wash day. And I found that the way I was doing it before, where like I had like a nail appointment in the middle of the day on this week and then a hair appointment in the middle of the day this week,

it wasn't good for my productivity. No, it's disruptive. Yes. If you're someone who works for yourself or whatever your situation is, like try to make it where it's like that day, like where it's just for you. So many tips on this episode. Where can everyone find you? Go listen to me too on Let's Get Dressed. Tell us all your social website. Pimp yourself out. I have a podcast on the Incredible Interior Media Studio. It's called Let's Get Dressed. We talk about fashion tips. We talk about news in the fashion world. And then I kind of take

everybody along on my amazing fashion adventures, whether I'm like in Italy with a brand or about fashion tips we talk about news in the fashion world and then i kind of take everybody along on my amazing fashion adventures whether i'm like in italy with a brand or attending a fashion week like you really get like a amazing inside look into the fun things that go on in the fashion industry but really we talk about the majority of the time we're talking about just how to feel your best every day and how to get dressed and pick the clothes out that make you feel really good on instagram i'm at'm at Liv Perez with two Vs and you can find me there. I'm a very big DM person.

So if you're ever on the hunt for something or you need tips or advice on how to get dressed or say you're a fellow bride like me, I've had a lot of brides slide into my DMs recently and be like, help, what do I wear for this? I am very, very active in my DM. So feel free to DM me anytime. Liv, I think you are so amazing and there's so many tangible takeaways in this episode. I have

notes that I wrote down. Thank you for coming on. That was a pleasure. Thank you.