The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Living On The Edge With Taylor O'Connor AKA The Barenaked Cucumber

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

#274: On this episode we are joined by our long time producer Taylor O'Connor AKA "The Barenaked Cucumber". Taylor has made multiple appearances on the show over the years and has produced it with us since day one. Today we are catching up with him to discuss how he's adjusted to quarantine and the world around him.  For Some Of Our Favorite Taylor Episodes click HERE & HERE Or Search for Taylor on our podcast site HERE To connect with Taylor O'Connor Click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep We are all quarantined and spending a lot more time at home. We are also spending a lot more time lounging around in bed. Make sure you have the right mattress to make enhance your sleep. Helix is offering up to $200 dollars off ALL mattress orders and two free pillows for our listeners at www.helixsleep.com/skinny This episode is brought to you by Versed. Versed is the non-toxic, cruelty-free, and vegan skincare brand that’s hyper-focused on bringing you real results at prices your bank account appreciates. Their products are made with proven ingredients at skin-changing levels, without the fussy packaging and conventional markups. You only pay for what matters—the goop inside the bottle Get 10% off for first time users when you shop at versedskin.com with promo code SKINNY Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to The Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. My name is Michael Bostic. I'm a serial entrepreneur and brand builder, most recently the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network. I am joined today by my wife, the creator of the Skinny Confidential, Lauren Everts. I'm going to do her intro because I'm moving fast and I'm on a rhythm. We are joined by our long-time producer. It's been a long time since we've actually done a dedicated episode with him. Taylor O'Connor, also known on this show as the Bare Naked Cucumber. For those of you who are like, what the hell does that mean? Search previous episodes.

Get the full backstory. There's a lot of back catalog. You know, there's a lot going on in the world. We needed a little bit of a lighter episode. And we thought, what better way than to just talk to our kooky producer, Taylor, because he always makes us laugh. He always gives a laugh. Taylor, what the fuck's been going on with you during quarantine?

You know, I guess this is kind of a little bit more adult, but something that's like, you know, the memes that go around and there's like, there's all those memes about like, like Pornhub and everything on stuff. That's the one, something that I've been doing a lot is like, I guess like I haven't consumed a lot of porn, a lot of porn. That's fine. The reason I like talking to you is because that story has, there was no relation to it. Like nobody knew you were going with that. We were literally just asking how quarantine was. I was asking how quarantine was and you started talking about memes and somehow those memes led you to, you've been watching a lot of porn. Well, it's because they're fun. All those memes I see of like people, like there's always like, oh, like Pornhub servers, like overload. And it is true. It's like sitting there and like, okay, I'm bored. You can't go

outside. You can't do anything. So I just go like, Oh, all right. Oh, well like time for some time to go to Pornhub.com. Let's just kick this off with a bang. Like we always do. How much porn are you actually consuming on a day-to-day basis and how many days a week? Let's be honest here. Let's not lie. And keep in mind, be careful, you know, be thoughtful with the answer here because you know, you do, you do work for me full time and I want to actually come, I'm going to compare this against the hours that you're clocking. I'm always curious to see that. Like, cause the thing, my whole thing is I'm trying to gauge what a normal amount of consumption is. And then I'm going to say like, am I, am I,

do I fall in like the high end or the low end? I don't know. It's like, is, is looking at it like every other day, is that too excessive? It's not an obsessive amount, but it's like you go on there, it's like I'm bored. It's like, okay, time to beat the meat, flog the dolphin. What does it make the one-eyed man spit? I'm trying to think of any other ones I can't think of, but all those really good sexual innuendos. Good morning. That's why I wanted to talk to you. Yeah. Good, good fucking morning here. Yeah, man. I don't, I think we need to, I think we need to get a little bit more granular and like ask, you know, when you're on these sites every other day, like for how long and, you know, for what amounts of time and for, and how frequently within those, like, is it you go on every other

day, but when you go on, is it multiple times for that day or is it just once? No, usually just once. How long? Don't lie. It depends. So like So it depends how motivated I am in the sense of if I'm just kind of browsing, I'm like, oh, you never really know what I'm looking for. You go to that homepage and you just literally keep hitting that next page. And again, there's the meme from Star Wars where it shows, fuck, what's the guy, Adam Driver? He's like, more, more. Kylo Ren. He's hitting the next page. Yeah, Kylo Ren. It's like guy, Adam Drivers. He's like, more, more. Kylo Ren. When he's hitting like the next page. Yeah, Kylo Ren. It's like that.

You just keep sitting there. You keep hitting the next page. I mean, can you just give us a one sentence answer? One sentence answer. A lot. I mean, I guess I would say a lot. I just like, I browse for about an hour. I like to nest.

It's like the dog that tries to find the perfect spot. That means three hours. That means three hours. As you browse, then you go like, perfect. Like, okay, like I'm here. I'm happy with what I found. It's time. If there's one thing I've learned about you over the years, and I've known you, what, since we were 12 years old, it's that whatever you're telling us here is not the full truth. There's always more. There's always layers. It always starts as like something that

sounds reasonable. Actually, it's not so reasonable, but in your world, it's reasonable. But as we continue to go on, we discover more and more and more. So I'm just going to assume that sounds reasonable. Actually, it's not so reasonable, but in your world, it's reasonable. But as we continue to go on, we discover more and more and more. So I'm just going to assume that anytime you say an hour, that means three or four. I'm going to assume if you say once, that means four or five. I'm going to assume if it's a maybe, it's probably a hell yes. And so I want everyone that's listening to go into it with the context of that, because I guarantee you, you're going to stumble here during this interview and I'm going to pull something out of you and you're, and I'm going to get the truth. I remember once I had to do, I was having issues with my computer and I had to call, I think it was like Dell support. And the woman had to

like take control of the computer to like run some program. And so she downloaded some like program that was going to like allow, like to see what my hard drives were doing. If they were like going under stress and she went into like the downloads folder and there was literally just like, just like all this like porn that she was like scrolling through that I had like downloaded on in my downloads folder for her to try to find this one thing. It was like so embarrassing. Cause she's like, where is it? And it was just so awkward. What year are you living in? Why are you, what are you downloading for? This was a long time ago. Number one is because I quality and I like to be able to, I mean, I need to be able to stream them in HD. It's like those old, the old videos back from when I was in like high

school, they're so pixelated and small. I've, I probably have a lot, a lot of videos that I've downloaded. And I mean by a lot, like I probably have a tear, like two terabytes of porn on hard. Now I, now I realize, you know, like, so as, as many of you know, Taylor's our producer, but our producer, the entire run of this show. And what you may not know is that, you know, I still do a lot of the uploading and go back and forth. And like Taylor and I are always sending sound files. And for whatever reason, sometimes he's like, yeah, that'll be there in about, you know, five, 10 minutes. And it takes, sometimes he's like, yeah, that'll be there in about five, 10 minutes. And sometimes it takes hours for you to get a file uploaded. And now I know the reason why, is you're completely destroying your hard drive and your bandwidth by downloading immense amounts

of HD porn. And next time you do that to me, I'm going to call you out. I guarantee you, I don't download and upload at the same time. I have a question. Yeah, of course. If there's someone listening right now and they're like, my boyfriend doesn't watch porn, my husband doesn't watch porn, my significant other doesn't watch porn, what would you guys say to them? I would say is your significant other blind and have no hands and cannot use fingers or ears?

We've already covered this. Those people are called liars, Lauren. Well, that's what I'm always curious about is it takes a lot for someone to actually admit, hey, I watch porn or they've consumed porn. I think it's because they find it embarrassing, but it's something that a lot of people do. And even if they don't do it, I think the form of self-pleasure, as you would call it, everybody does it to some degree. And I think that there are people who think that it's disgusting, but then they do it behind closed doors. Like they're out really like absolutely not. Absolutely not. Then they go home and they go down to their porn dungeon and then they just stream all night. Listen, there's a lot of pain going on in the world right now. But I think one

thing that unifies us as people is that people are fucking perverts and they're freaks and they get their, and they get their porn on. And I think that's something all of us as a society can agree on that that's happening. Nobody, nobody's unique in the sense of that. I mean, you get, you get some of the people that are out there and they're, you know, they're, you know, maybe they're in a relationship and somebody's like, you know, my boyfriend would never do that. And it's like, and then he's sitting there nodding. Hey, I wouldn't, but you know, that's, that's the exact guy that's doing that. You know, don't look in your husband's download folder because I guarantee you, if you do a little bit of a deep dive, you're going to

find something that's honestly, if I was dying and if I was in my deathbed, I would literally, if I was like right now, if I was dying, I would say like, come here, come here. I'd be like, please like go and delete the downloads folder on my computer. Unless you're that poor IT girl that had to suffer through that with you. So Michael, are you like watching porn in your man cave? Like, or are you just going to go in the shower? Listen, I'm going to flip it around sometimes in your man cave? Like, or are you just going to go in the shower? Listen, I'm going to flip it around. Sometimes in the man cave, sometimes on the phone,

sometimes in the shower, I'm moving around. But listen, I also would caveat that with, and I think Lauren and I have talked about this. Sometimes I watch it with you. And also in addition to that, I would also say that I'm not, like it becomes a problem when the porn just becomes your reality and you get lost in it

and you become like addicted to it. So Taylor, like me, you might be like borderline there, but I think a healthy amount is okay as long as it's not interfering with your real life. I think, you know, we've talked about this. There's episodes on this podcast with sex with Emily. You can, anyone that's listening can look it up if you haven't already heard it. A healthy amount is subjective though. Yeah, that's true. I mean, some people would say any amount is not healthy and maybe you have a crazy girlfriend that's going to stab you in your sleep if you do. Like, obviously, then never healthy because you're going to be cut.

Did you ever see the movie Don Juan? I think it is with Scarlett Johansson. And again, I can't remember the male actor's name, but he's in this relationship, but he watches porn like all day, every day. And she has a very strict stance of no porn. And the relationship fails. At the end of the movie, I'm fairly certain that he breaks up with her and he goes, I got to have my porn. What's his name?

Don? I'm going to Google it. Don Juan. Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Yeah, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. That's his name. Yeah, he's a good actor. And it's an interesting movie.

I think it kind of went under the radar for it. But it's Scarlett Johansson and she's great in it. It's an interesting movie because it literally is about this guy's porn obsession. I think it kind of went under the radar for it, but it's Scarlett Johansson and she's great in it. It's just, it's an interesting movie because it literally is about this guy's porn obsession. When you're searching for porn, what keywords do you put in? I mean, it's usually like more or less go off, go for like the actresses.

Like you find the girls you like. No, no, no, no. You're not going to score this question. I usually don't like search in like, you know, like POV is always a good one. I mean, who doesn't want to be right in, in, in the action? POV. I've never heard of that one. You've never heard of POV? Point of view.

Explain. So you, you guys are actually virtually reality fucking girls. Well, that's so that's the idea is like POV is like the camera's meant to be like the eyesight. So it's like the camera sees what supposedly you would see if you're there. I'm not talking about like virtual reality, which is like, I've never, that's a whole nother thing that I've never, I've never gone down that thing. But like, now, you know, like the Google Glass, they have those, what is it? I think there's Google Glass is one of them, but there's actually like 3D headsets. There's like 3D porn. I've never,

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get into this weird place soon where like the new norm is you're going to be wearing like those glasses or headsets that go on your head and like be in the world. And like that, that's when I think like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to like make, I don't know if I'm going to be able to join the future that I don't know, like if my wife or somebody came in and I had that headset and I was just like going to town on myself and I didn't know what was going on in the world. Or I think that we get to a place that's a little farther. Taylor will be the guinea pig. Taylor will be the guinea pig. Well, that's where I think that, that ethically, I think that what people's argument now saying where they're like, oh, like porn is bad.

I could see where that starts to transfer into the bad because then if you're like physically or like if you're mentally transmitting yourself to like some sort of like virtual world where it looks real and it feels real and you're really – you're in that situation. Then I could see where people would be like, wait a second. He's going into that virtual world again and all he's doing is's like the, what was the Black Mirror episode where there's the guy in the playing the fighting game. They got the, they put the thing on it. It just, they go into fight, but then they just end up fucking the whole time. Have you seen that episode? No, we missed it. This is a yes or no question. And I won't take any other answer, but yes or no. Would you say that you're a porn connoisseur? Yeah, I would say that I would. If someone was like, hey, like who are some attractive

porn stars? I'd be able to dabble in some of their names. I mean, I'm good with actresses, of course. Like if I can go like, these are, these are the classics. There's like the OGs. Let's, let's get really micro with you since we have you here. And I feel like you're, you're full of stories. You're kind of like Michael's bookcase. You never know which book you're going to pull out. So you had an ex-girlfriend talking, we're talking way back in the day, probably like four years ago. Did she have a problem with you watching this much porn? Like were you like, hold on before dinner? Like I, I need to beat my meat before we go out to have a bite to eat or like, I've never, I've never done that. That's, that's where I think it becomes like an issue where it's like, you have like,

okay, you have like, you either like brush your teeth and get your hair done or you like throw a quick beat and people are like, I got to throw the beat. No, I've always. Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. We got to stop now. What do you, what do you, what do you mean? I never thought to myself, I'm going to brush my hair or be like, it's not like one of, like, I actually, like, I don't see the relation to those two tasks at all, actually. Like, it's not an issue. Cause I, you never, I never weighed in like the pros and cons it's either like wait hold on how did we get from how did you go from like your girlfriend to like asking that lauren asked you a point like question about your girlfriend to like oh wait hold on actually it's like between combing your hair for your girlfriend or beating you like

what are you talking about here because she was saying did it ever really she had like an issue with it no because like i've never the one thing i i don't think i ever have i don't think i've ever watched porn with somebody like in any regard that's one thing i one experience i've never, the one thing I don't think I ever have, I don't think I've ever watched porn with somebody like in any regard. That's one thing I've, one experience I've never shared. But so that's like, in that regard, it's like, how do you know? Maybe because your porn is so wild that you want to keep it away from your girlfriends. I mean, it's very possible. I mean, especially like, who knows? Like, but the thing is, is you never know what someone's, what someone's like, their barrier to entry is. They may go like, oh, this is soft shit. Like, this is what I like. So you

never know. That's what I mean. I love how you avoid the question though. So you had this girlfriend, you had her for a long time. She was living with you. She lived in your bed, in your room all the time. How did you hide your porn habit? Like what were the, the, whenever she was gone out of the, whenever she's like, you know, like, Oh, I I'm out. It's like, perfect time. Like me time. Seriously. There were some times that like, I kid you not where it's like, I was browsing, like trying to find like the video. And then like, I, I like looked and she's like, Oh, I'm pulling up. So I'm like, Oh shit. So it's like, you're climaxing as you see like the lights like pull up to the house. So you know that like, you've got, I've got to like

quickly clean up before like she comes in, in the room. What else have you been doing in quarantine? Did you take, this is like, this is, this is years ago. Cause this is, this is like, it's like six years ago, but still it's like at that, it's like, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, it's like beat the clock. So what the hell have you been doing in quarantine? Cause how do we get here? How does this always happen to us? How do we always get into these weird places with you? Well, with the one thing with quarantine that I find interesting and something like I don't really identify with is me being inside. I could, I could realistically be locked inside for the next six months and be completely happy. Like remind me of the Mount

of Monte Cristo. This guy I I'm telling you, Lauren, because I see him every day because we're working and we're doing all like Zoom. And I always give him a shit because he's literally got the same three posters behind him and just different colors. They're like the exact same thing. And if you move his camera around the rest of the room,

there's another thing that has six posters that look the exact same. And he keeps trying to tell the team that they're different, but they're not. But I don't think he's even aware of anything that's going on in the world around him. He's just been in this cave alone with this gaming headset in this dark room with his porn. You're like Rip Van Winkle.

He doesn't even know that the world has literally tried to tear itself apart since we've been in the house. And to him, it's just another normal day. It really is. But I think it's because, to me, being able to go outside and everything like that's all great, but I, I'm, I can be very happy with very little. Like I'm not someone that needs all of these things to be able to feel like if, if I don't get, if I don't like check these particular boxes, that my like daily life is like failing as far. Like, of course,

like I like to be able to go outside and I have gone on walks and stuff, which has been interesting going out and like walking around Solana Beach. It's nice to see the world once in a while. Well, it's nice. I've done all the walks before, but it is nice. It just makes me feel like how grossly out of shape I am just in general, walking around and I'm wheezing. I feel like I'm going to die. You know my dad's restaurant's open. I'll say just opened. Oh, I didn't know that they were open, but I love that restaurant. So I definitely want to go back to that. He barely even knows that there was like a pandemic that happened.

He's not going to know about an individual restaurant. This guy, he's been locked in this position. He's basically grown roots into his chair. I love details. So what's a day in the life of you in quarantine? And be dead brutally honest, because I'm going to call you out if you're not, what time are you waking up? I wake up.

It depends. I usually wake up at eight 30 and I don't believe it. But then, so I wake up and then I look at the computer and I do a couple of things and then I pop back and forth realistically. Like the reason that to me, like my schedule is like, I do work stuff all throughout the day, even at night. Like I just, I did, I just, last night I downloaded a bunch of things that I'm hoping to use, which are, again, some new plugins and stuff that I'm pretty excited about.

But your porn interrupted that download. When work's being done, there's no porn consumption at all. Let's be crystal clear on that. I would surely fucking hope not, because if not, I'm going to get- Talk on the Zoom door from HR. Yeah, definitely not. Trust me, those are are not like what is the thing like don't shit where you eat thing completely separate so like that's not that's not an issue an issue at all but one thing that i would say that i think i think has been fun that i've been able to do is listen to a lot of music lately with my records and stuff like that's something that i haven't

been able to do over the last i would six months. So like music and reading comic books and stuff. I don't, the one thing that I always feel like I, Michael and you Lord both read so much and you guys always have these authors on that talk about like recommend all these great books. I don't read books per se, but I do read a lot of like graphic novels and everything, but I always feel like I'm such at such a disadvantage, but still graphic novels are such a great like resource for like reading too if you don't like reading those books i've read like almost i don't say every because there's so many but i've like gone through almost every like year in serious publication of the batman comics i mean you know

that taylor and like i think that comics are a good escape to go listen i don't care what you're reading as long as you're reading something and i think that's a distinguished to like something to distinguish when talking about really like you know you don about reading. You don't have to go read the Britannica Encyclopedia or something crazy. Just read in general. Who out there is not able to sleep these days? There is a lot going on with our politics, pandemics, a lot of stuff going on in the world. And it is a stressful time. It is not the easiest time to fall asleep.

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What I was going to say, one thing that's kind of funny growing up as a kid, I grew up, my neighbor was a comic book artist and now he works for Marvel. But he gave me a bunch of comics. And when I was reading them when I was young, my mom hated the fact that I would read them. And then my aunt was like, no, at least she's reading something. And now they're so popular in the comic book industry. It's not only boomed, but there's so many. It's looked at as completely different from when we were younger.

But it's just interesting how the times of but there's so many it's looked at as like completely different from when we were younger, but it's just interesting how like the times of, of comic books have changed at the perspective of them. I, I would like to know you have a little bit of a problem getting out of bed. Like it's, it's hard for you to wake up. I've, I've seen it with my own two eyes when there's been a couple of nights where we drank too much and you slept on the couch or blow up mattress. And you should have started this. Like you wake up at eight 30 with like a million like messages from me saying, yeah. So, but the way that you wake up is very interesting. You have an alarm clock that is really cool. And I want you to tell the audience all about this alarm clock. But this is this alarm clock. I think this is good.

So this is, I'm going to be specific, just as Lauren, as you always say, be specific. This is a good app. It's called Alarmy. And what it does is there's different settings of mathematic equations to be able to disable the alarm. Because like the one thing that I know that people do, not just myself, is the snooze button.

It's just a button away. It's basically saying like hit the snooze button and basically like maybe accidentally not hit the snooze button. And then you wake up like five hours later and you're like, holy fuck, I hit the snooze. So to stop that, the alarming, in order to hit the snooze or stop the alarm, you need to solve a math equation. And the easy is too easy because it's like two plus two. I mean, I could do that no matter like if I was blacked out drunk or hungover doesn't matter but then you go to like

the higher ones and you you're getting these like square roots and like like massive decimal equations where it's almost and you have i think six seconds to answer the equation or it gives you a new one so you can't take too long either it came to the point to where i had like a calculator next to my bed because I'd wake up and I'd have to enter it in really quick to be able to disable the alarm. The real question is, is have you ever woken up and not been able to solve it? And so you were just fucked. Yeah. No, I, I, multiple times where when you set it to the, to the higher one, the equations it gives you, and it's like, you can solve it, but can you solve it in five seconds? It's a whole different scenario. Cause I, I, it gives you like examples. So like, perfect. Like this is easy. Anybody can do this. But then when you wake up and you have like five seconds,

you're going like shit. And then it gives you a new one and it just keeps blaring. Like the alarm doesn't stop. It just keeps going. So then you get like, you get annoyed, you get irritated and then your cortisol levels start to rise. So that's why it's like, don't use the high, definitely don't use the high because it's, it's, you, I had to disable, I had to literally shut down the phone and go to like, I had to do like a, like hard reset on it and go to the settings of the phone and disable it as if it's like, I'm not giving permission for that app to be able to use the speaker. And it was a huge ordeal. So that's a fucking hot tip if I've ever heard one. So if you can't wake up with an alarm, like 99.9% of the population, just use Alarm Me and you'll have

to solve a square rooted mathematical equation with a calculator by your bed. That's a great productivity tip. Could you imagine if this was a sponsorship? I mean, Alarm Me, they're stocking, buy stock now in Alarmmy because it's going off the chain. I want to know what you've been like, I want to know what's been going on with your love life in quarantine. And I know you're going to like it all flustered here and freeze up. But I know damn well that you haven't been sitting there like a goody two shoes, not trying to reach out to women, you know, not going, not trying to date, even in a weird pandemic. I know you've been doing something and I want you to tell us right now what that is. I want you to tell a few listeners that we have what the hell you've been doing. I mean, you can't really see many people, but as far as like, I'm really big, not big on like sending like photos or anything of myself, like the sexting game. Is that a new development? That's a new development? No, so I'm saying the sexting game is always something that I like to stay away from because it's never i think that you can get in hot

waters of that especially with like the boom of like revenge porn and stuff like that's that's a huge fear of mine so it's like i never really want to get involved in in that especially you never want to you want to you don't want to mix the two bridges don't lie how many times have you sent videos or images to women that you have later regretted? Dick pic. Honestly, years ago, years and years, years ago, I remember that the only time, no, no, no. This was literally, this was like back in like 2012 or sometime ago. A year ago.

I remember there was a girl that my cousin brought. It was like a friend of my cousin's and we like hooked up this one time and I hadn't spoken to her a long time. And I don't remember if I actually did send it or did not send it now that I think about it. But I remember, I think, oh, I sent it. This is what I did. I didn't send a photo, but I remember sending a text message being like, hey, blah, blah, blah. Oh, I'm horny right now. How about I send you a photo or something like this? And the message was like, yo, yeah, of course, send it. And I was in the process of it.

And then a follow-up message came and said, actually don't, this is so-and-so's fiance. I was fucking with you. Like she's now engaged and don't send it. Here's the real story. So you decided to send a rock hard photo of your penis to someone. You probably filtered it before and got a great angle and you sent it. And then the fiance wrote you back. Tell the real story. No, I, I, that's, that's one thing I never, I didn't actually submit it. And that's why I'm like, that's another reason why I'm like, like you never really know, like who's going to get particular things for that. So it's always like, even if I haven't, I mean, like, of course I have, I mean, everybody, I think everybody's

I promise you this Taylor, I am going to get the real story out of you before the end of this podcast. So you, you might as well just tell it now that one I've never thank god I've never sent like that that's one thing like I think would give me too much anxiety is knowing that like I was just like haphazardly like sending like like sliding into dms with like the dick first pick but you slid into a lot of dms and have but not not with not with not with the dick pics like because like that's the whole thing is you really never know. That's like blackmail. You're getting into such murky waters with that.

And it's like trust issues. I think trust issues have to be established before there's any sexting can be taken to that level. But if those weren't issues for you, you would 100% be sending these. I know you would. No, I just don't think it's... The reason being is I think it's too forward. I kid you not. I've received naked pictures from people that I don't even know who they are. They're like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, okay, number one, you're probably not real. Hold on, hold on. Time out. I've been a human being on this planet for 33 years now.

I've been pretty tech savvy for a while. I never just get random naked pictures to my phone. I'm like, whoa, who's that? Never heard of you. You've never received one image of someone just randomly naked be like, hey. I'm not saying that. I know that it's real. For me. For me. I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that I don't just get random pictures to my phone and they can be like, who the hell is that? I wonder who. This is what I'm saying. I'm going to get the real story out of you. You might as well tell us this doesn't happen more. And if you ever got just random photos out of there, not including Snapchat, just like random. One time I got a dick pic text and I wrote back, okay, Tom thumb. And I never did

it again. But I really want to know, I want to know who the, who the guys are that, that are like legitimately like, this is deflecting the conversation to other people. I want to know who the guys are that think the lead in, the strong lead in is the dick pic. Dick pic, then hey, what's up? Number one, I want to know what guys do that and think that's okay. And then B, I want to know what girls think that that's perfect. That's exactly how I like to be hit on. Something happened here and you're changing the subject. I like how you went from one and then to B.

So we'll all acknowledge that. But I would say that the guys that do that are like you in 2015. No, I'm telling you, I've never, I'm not saying I've never not sent a dick pic, but I've never led with a dick pic is what I'm saying. You just said you never sent a dick pic. I'm saying I've never led with a dick pic is what I'm saying. You just said you never sent a dick pic. I never led with a dick pic. Oh, you never led with a dick pic, but you've sent a dick pic. Oh yeah, I have. I've sent a couple in my life. I told you, you can't even keep it straight. It started as once and now it's at a couple. Everyone collect his dick pics and send them to me so I can

see. I'm going to put it on my Instagram feed. Okay. I've heard enough about Taylor's dick right now. I would like to know you guys' both of your opinions on cheating. On cheating. Okay. In what regard? I want to hear in what regard? What do you mean? There's one regard. What's your opinion on cheating? Well, no, because I was saying this with a scenario involved. I didn't know if you were going to go more in depth with person A. a like they're actually no yeah yeah go through the scenarios please let's let's do it in what regard are you discussing too well i just mean like is there like no i didn't know like if if it was a question like someone was like someone wanted advice about like a specific like scenario that happened to them like in general like no

i i i think cheating is bad and of course like the one thing that I know is cheating, I think it's hurtful to a lot of people. And of course, in some way, I think there's always someone trying to justify it from both sides. But I still think the best way to do it is to not do it at all. And of course, do mistakes happen? Yes.

Are there people that make mistakes? I don't think there's any scenario where cheating is okay, realistically. In what regard? And of course, do mistakes happen? Yes. Are there people that make mistakes? I don't think there's any scenario where cheating is okay, realistically. In what regard? I think there's a lot of scenarios that people could be like, well, what if the woman or the man is in a very abusive relationship and they're lashing out? There's a lot of scenarios that I... That's an acceptable scenario. No, I'm just saying that there's a scenario.

No, I'm saying that there are scenarios where people will have different justifications for different outcomes for it. But overall, I definitely think that it should be something that should be avoided at all costs. My favorite thing about you is that I ask a question that's like a one-sentence quick yes or no answer, but you somehow turn it into a squared mathematical equation. You'd be a great politician. Great politician. You just completely didn't answer the question. Well, I think there's, if I just said no,

I'd like, I don't agree with it at all. I don't think that gives enough context or doesn't give enough insight to the way that I, because the world's not black and white and there's like a lot of color to it. Literally, you should be a politician. Michael, what's your opinion? Cheating's bad. Don't do it. Next question. Okay. I definitely agree with Michael. Don't do it. I think in all scenarios that it's bad.

Do you have any cheating stories that you want to share with the committee? Have you ever been cheated on? You yourself? That's what I was thinking of. So there was the girl, the very religious girl. And I remember- Because you've told this story on this show, but not as maybe as granular. So you dated a woman who was very religious. Yeah. Very religious. And she was, and you are not a very religious person yourself. And she was always pushing you to find God or Jesus or whatever. Yeah. Go to church and like do all this stuff. And she was like very self-righteous about it, right? Yes, absolutely. Okay. And so she cheated on you.

Yeah. So, and again, yes, like there is that, like, I guess like, I think her justification was, it was because like, we'd never had the like, the official like boyfriend, girlfriend, where I like didn't go like,

like, will you be my girlfriend? But we were, we were dating. Like we went to prom with each other. We were like hanging, like if we would, if we'd go walk around, she'd hold my hand. We'd kiss. She'd come and sleep over.

So very, very, I was thinking, OK, exclusive. Even if we didn't have the title for it, I was thinking, OK, she's not seeing other people. But then, lo and behold, she absolutely was. And I think I've told the story where I I went over there and there was like this like sex board game, like all over the place. And that was like one of the scenarios where I was like, holy shit, like something's not going right here. And I never really like the other time was like she had snuck over to the ex-boyfriend's house and she had hooked up with him. And she's like, what do you mean?

Like, we're not official boyfriend and girlfriend. So that is the scenario. That's like the closest I've ever, it's ever come to me. Okay. So we're going to play a little game. This is called ask Taylor. These are questions from the audience. Oh yeah. I'm excited. I'll be as quick as I can with the questions. Okay. So ask Taylor, the first question is having to do with cheating, which is perfect. Perfect. What would you do if you caught your boyfriend cheating and you're giving advice as the girl?

What would you do if you were the girl? Or as the boy. What would I do? If I'm the girl and I caught someone cheating, I'll add, hypothetically, walked in, or do you want to go as hypothetically, they, they like, we're just aware of something. Cause like those are two different. You caught them red-handed cheating. I'm trying to think that would be a very difficult thing. Cause like if I, if you come home and like, there's somebody like in the bed and they're banging that person or they're like,

they're in the act of it. Just give the girl advice. She's caught her boyfriend cheating. Always go on these rabbit-ticking holes and put yourself in some Tarantino movie. Can you just be real life for a second? Let's imagine two scenarios. The first one is you just are dating someone and you found out they're cheating.

And the second one is you walk into your bedroom door at home after a hard day's work and your girl's in the room cheating on you. Or, no, you're the girl in the scenario. I forgot, you're the girl. So you come home and your husband's cheating on you in your bed. I mean, honestly, I would probably, in bed, I would probably have a much more difficult time forgiving someone for that. I feel like in some scenarios I could forgive someone because it's like, then I'd want to find out like, why, like what, what did I do? Or like, what did like this relationship do to drive you to that? But you're, you're going to, no, we want to know in like, what do you do when

you catch them? I'm not like, we haven't, we don't need to go through the whole, like, you know, I would, I would, I would easily, I would grab like all their, their drawer, I'd grab the drawers. I like just start dumping, dumping the clothes on them and be like, get out. I would, I wouldn't do that. Oh, I wouldn't do that. I'm I, I would just, I would do nothing. How's that? That would be good too, because then it's like, but then you honestly like, yeah, actually you're right. Lauren, the reason that would be good is because then that person never is, doesn't know when you're going to strike. They're like, are you going to lash out? Are you going to something? I don't know. You'll never know what I'm going to do because if I caught my husband cheating, I would just do nothing.

Sit with that. Let it sink in. That's what I mean is you never, knowing that or never, never being able to be like relaxed and be like, okay, that's, that's like the fearful thing of that. So I think that that regard though, it's like, if it's in that space, I would say it's much, much less unforgivable than some, something else like if it's in that space, I would say it's much less unforgivable than something else. But it's just like the emotional thing. Even thinking of that scenario, like walking in and seeing someone that you cared for in the act with someone else, that would be rank high as a nightmare scenario. I don't know if that was the most tangible takeaway. I realized I didn't learn anything from that.

I mean, that's a difficult one, honestly. I would say that's hard. It's very hard to answer because I don't know how I would emotionally react to that. I feel like anything that I said would still probably not be the way that I acted if it came down to it. Thank you for not giving us any value in that answer. The next question is, another listener wants to know, what should she do to get more confidence? How can she gain more confidence? Do you have any confidence tips? Yeah. This one is one of the ones that I actually feel very passionate about. I had an old friend of mine who passed away. But one thing that I really remember him telling me

is there was a time that I was really really down to myself and was kind of him and I were at lunch and I was kind of saying, Oh, I can't believe I went out in public and I was wearing, I think I was wearing like UGG boots and like sweatpants and just like a sweatshirt. And then I ran into people that we were in that we knew in high school and they were like all out going out and like, they were all like dress nice. And I remember thinking like, Oh my God, I look like shit. I can't believe I saw, I like, I was out in public like that. And I was kind of like degrading myself. And he said like, my friend said, you need to stop. Don't be negative to yourself ever because that you are like essentially like the last line of defense to like the way you emotionally react to specific situations. And that like the confidence

level inside of you is you should never put yourself down essentially, like regardless of what it is. Like even if you do something bad, I think it's okay to say like, okay, that was stupid of me, but I need to take that lesson and like become better. And if you use, instead of like going through those steps, if you are negative on yourself and going like, you're such an idiot, I can't believe that.

I think all that does is lower your confidence in anything. So I think like comparing yourself to others is not a way to go about it. And because there's always going to be someone that has something that you don't, there's always going to be somebody that's taller. There's always gonna be someone that's better looking and in like, if in your outward perspective, but I think that you need to realize like everybody has their own like unique aspects. Like everybody is beautiful in their own way. Everybody has like unique, like their own personality. They are, they're all like funny. And so maybe not, maybe not, everyone's not funny, but I think everybody should, I think people lower themselves or

they don't, sorry. I feel like people don't rank them. They rank themselves lower than they really should. Okay. Can you create a clip for that? That I, so I can wake up to that in the morning. That was very inspirational. All right. The next question. You know what I will say, Lauren, about Taylor? This is true. I mean, and I actually really like, I respect a lot of things about him, but I respect this the most. Whenever we're out, me and all the boys go out and Taylor's out, of all the guys, Taylor is one of the first ones. He will go up and spark a conversation with any woman in any place, in any bar, in any restaurant, he's very, like, definitely, like, definitely emits a lot of confidence. And I can't say that about a lot of my friends, you know, like, so. You just, there's no, you have nothing to lose. And I always

think, like, if anything, like, I know people have low confidence and they think of themselves, like, in a much lesser light than they should. If anything, like, it would be better to exude confidence and be, like, you should always think better of yourself If anything, like I, it would be better to, to exude confidence and be like, you should always think better of yourself and then have like, then get, have the reality. So it's like, if, if think that, think of yourself as better looking, like it's the same thing is nine out of 10 times, like something will fail. Like the whole thing of like, shoot your shot. It's true. It's like, if you, if, if you don't do it because you're scared or something, regardless if it's like, you're, you're trying to get a job or you're trying to meet a girl or you're trying to do something, if you don't try,

there's zero chance of anything coming from it anyways. So what are you really losing by thinking of yourself as better than you really are? All right. Last question to round this out. Let's hope you have a great answer. This is from a reader, what is the best piece of advice you've received from Michael Bostic? I would say like one of the more recent one that I really agree with is like operating from like a standpoint of like fear of something. The reason that I think that I just feel like it's like relevant to right now, but in general, I feel like that like when you're scared to like try something or to learn something or do something, you automatically are coming from like a, a weakened standpoint because it's out of fear,

not confidence or like strength. And you're probably just doing it because you're like, oh, I'm scared of an outcome for it. And I think a lot of decisions when you, when you are scared of something you make, I think you get into the realm of making poor decisions off of that. So I agree that making decisions off of a point of weakness is not really... And I guess this connects to that too, is the fact that we are young and we have... If anything, this is the time to take risks and to really put everything on the spectrum. Okay. And can we just leave our audience with a maybe yes or no question, maybe like a two sentence answer. Have you gotten better with your one minute problem? I'm telling you, it's the edging. Edging has helped. It helps the reason being is because when you feel like you're going to climax, you're able to... I feel like it's

almost like a form of meditation. You're like, I feel like it's almost like a form of meditation or like, it's not happening. What I always think about, about this show, like, I honestly like think about it so much. And like, it's so funny to me, like, I lay in bed sometimes and I'll like wake up actually like kind of like laughing, like I'll like actually like, like a psychopath, like I'll just like wake up laughing. It's like, imagine you're a new listener and you're not that familiar with this show. And one day you land on it and it's like this health expert and he's like teaching about gut health. And the next time you land on it and it's like some author talking about something so profound. And then like, imagine like that's what you think the show

is. And then one day you just are like, Hey, like I liked that one show that I got that great business advisor, that like great insight from that beautiful author. And then one day you tune into this and it's like, edging is the answer. Edging is the answer. And edging has really helped. And I think, I think about that shit all the time and just laugh because some people probably get so thrown by it and so shook. And it's just like, it's just, I'm sure some of our listeners are laughing along with us. It's like such a juxtaposition of, of what we talk about here. Listen, give me anything. Just don't give me boring. This show is like a bag of Chex Mix. You never know what you're going to grab out of it. Today, you grabbed Taylor talking about porn, edging, telling you

all about confidence. There's a dynamic to it that I think I've never, with both you and Michael, there's one thing that I think, although you guys do have like, like Lauren, you have a very specific brand, but I think that the brand of both you and Michael is the fact that it's not so one way. That's the, I think the strength to your brand, Lauren, is the fact that you can really talk about anything. And cause you, you don't identify as like the, I'm the like cook. Well, it's like a, it's a selfish, it's a selfish reason though. It's like, it's not because like, it's for no other reason that we're both selfish in the sense

that like we can't have the same types of conversations over and over and over. Like, I think it's so funny. This morning I was doing an interview with Fast Company and it was like so serious about business and the future of pot and all these things that'll come out soon. And then now tonight I'm talking about edging.

And like, to me that like, it like deep down in my soul makes me laugh so much. And like, you know, you're operating and doing all these great things, but like you could still talk like that. Like that's what makes life fun. It gets, I could not imagine just doing the same thing over and over again. One thing that I will say is like,

if you think of like a specific type of show, like say someone's a, like a, she's like a sower. Let's say you're like a gardener or something. And your, your podcast is folk on like landscaping. Hey, like welcome to episode 200 of my landscaping podcast. How much variety could there be? That could be good too. And I think there's a lot of individuals that do that shit really well. And there's a lot of great channels that have built very specific niches. But I'm just saying, personally, I couldn't do it. I

have to be able to pepper in some of these types of conversations. I just think it's funny. Okay. So leave our listeners with what edging is so they don't have to go Google it on their computer at home. And then we're going to wrap this up. Okay. This is what I would say. Like, okay. The most important thing is like a sex toy, like a male sex toy is like the fleshlight.

Like that thing will like really put you to the test. Okay. Like the reason being is like the fleshlight itself. It's a, what it is. It's like, number one, it doesn't look like a flashlight at all. It's massive, but that's where you can, like, you could, I'm the, like using the fleshlight, you can actually feel like what it would be like to be having sex with something.

I just asked you what edging means. Can you just answer the question? Oh, I thought you asked a different question. What was the, what was the question again? How did you get, how do you get to where you go? How do you get into these? Like, where do you, I thought you said give like a tip. Michael didn't love the flashlight. He tried it. No, I don't love the flashlight either. What are the mechanisms in your brain that, that like get you there? I did not love the flashlight. I think, and I ended up throwing it away. It's super weird. I've actually bought two of them over a period of time. Okay. Can we just get back to what edging is? Okay. Edging is the process of taking yourself to the edge of climax. That's why it's called edging, but then not actually going

over the edge. And you're supposed to do it over like a, it says like 30 minutes or something. And believe it or not, there's like weird like stamina training things. Like you can read online where they're like, okay, like this is like the pace of it. And the idea is to, it lowers your sensitivity to the urge of wanting to climax. That's what edging is. Thank you for this enlightening, valuable conversation. Thank you for your wisdom. Where can everyone find you on your Instagram if they want to get creepy? Tales You Die is on my Instagram. I don't really have any other social platforms, but Instagram. At Tales You Die and be sure to scroll way, way down so you can get the whole story. Taylor, it's always a pleasure. Thanks for coming on. I know you need to get back to

your Dropbox download. And guys, as always, are going to be giving away some cheeky, pink, skinny skinny confidential stickers. All you have to do is let me know your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram. I'm sure there's so many favorite parts that you don't even know where to start. And with that, we'll see you on Tuesday with a completely different kind of episode.