The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Madison LeCroy Tells All: Southern Charm Drama, Cast Conflicts, Diet & Fitness Routines, & Famous DMs That Blew Her Mind

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

#785: Join us as we sit down with Madison LeCroy – the vibrant personality from Bravo’s Southern Charm! As a southern belle turned reality TV star, Madison effortlessly shines in the spotlight while navigating her personal & professional life on the Charleston-based hit series. In this episode, Madison shares candid behind-the-scenes insights, opens up about the challenges of balancing privacy with public life, & sets the record straight on common misconceptions about reality TV!   To connect with Madison LeCroy click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697)   This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential   Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes.   This episode is sponsored by Ritual    Get 25% off your first month at ritual.com/SKINNY.    This episode is sponsored by Squarespace   Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to squarespace.com/SKINNY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.   This episode is sponsored by Lightbox   Shop Now at LightboxJewelry.com & use code SKINNY10 for 10% off your first purchase from Lightbox Lab-Grown Diamonds.    This episode is sponsored by Fatty15   Fatty15 is on a mission to replenish your C15 levels and restore your long-term health. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/SKINNY and using code SKINNY at checkout.   This episode is sponsored by Domain Money   For a limited time, Domain Money is offering listeners of this show a free 30 minute strategy session. Head to domainmoney.com/himandher to book a free strategy session now.   This episode is sponsored by TravisMathew   Visit travismathew.com and receive 20% off your order with code SKINNY. Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

Aha! The working out, I've always been athletic, but it didn't like consume my life. But there were times when it was a little extreme. I was working out too much. I was under eating, but I know that the focus is just to feel good. And that's the main thing that I try to do to my day to day. Obviously, the eating is, I feel like, one of the number one reasons to being in shape and looking healthy. But the weightlifting for me, instead of going to therapy, I would just go lift weights. That was like my escape. You may know her from

Southern Charm. You also may know her from social media. Perhaps you know her from TikTok. I know her because we started talking through DMs and we became fast friends. She is absolutely vibrant, amazing, funny. Madison LaCroix, welcome to the show. I have asked her to come on the show multiple times over the past couple years, and she's not really someone who does podcasts a lot. She finally agreed. She came out to Austin. And in this episode, her first podcast, she talks about working out, fitness, what she eats, a day in the life, the show. She gives us juice on the show and sets the record straight on common misconceptions about reality TV. She's an entrepreneur, a mother, and the star of Bravo's Southern Charm, Madison. Welcome to the show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Michael has been watching Southern Charm since Thomas. That's who he initially fell in love with

on the show. I know we need him back, to be honest. Well, because as a viewer and as a fan of the show, I'd never seen anything like that. This is wild. We'd never seen anything like it either. The mix of him and Patricia to kick that show off was out of control.

That guy was made for television. My favorite part was when he stood up at the table and he just goes down the line and he's like, and you suck and you are poor. And I mean, I was like, this is amazing. Yeah, it is amazing. Well, the show is amazing. There's so many different colorful dynamics

that you guys have really, in my opinion, hit the gold mine when it comes to reality TV. As a viewer, I'm like on the edge of my seat. I've got a weird thing too, where because I get to do this show, I get even more invested when I meet the people on the show. But I have a hard time watching it

until I'm that invested. But now that we're meeting, like I'll be yelling at the TV, but don't do that to her. Yeah, exactly. Okay, you got to give us the background of what was going on before you were on the show,

because you were working with Patricia. Give us like the whole story. Okay. So, I mean, to start off, I was like the help for the show. I was doing all the glam. I was the hair and makeup artist, had my own little trailer. I mean, I was running a salon. I was doing the best I could.

I was making good money. They were like, wait, this girl, we've got to get her in front of the camera, not behind the camera. And then I kind of started, you know, dating one of the guys on the show and that's when it all took off.

Now, when you're dating him, were you like thinking this is the one I'm going to be in love with him forever or was this just like a fun situation?

Absolutely not. Like I knew instantly he wasn't like husband material. Sorry, but yeah. You're here for two minutes and that's gonna be a headline. I know, I literally was like, I shouldn't be doing this.

This is probably why I don't do podcasts. I'm gonna say too much. We should have got you drunk. I know. You know, that's what Erica Jane told me my problem was on TV. She's like, your problem is you're sober. I was like, well, not like sober all the

time. I'm just sober right now. Yeah. I think that when you give you a little alcohol, you let it rip. That's what I like about you. Bring them in. So, you know, going into dating Austin that he's just like for fun. I mean, honestly, we had a friendship. We should have just stuck with that. I guess. I don't know. I was divorced for probably four years when him and I started dating. So I really wasn't ready to jump into a marriage or anything. And give the audience a little bit of background. You have a son.

You were married for how long? Give us a little background story. So I was married for four years. I had my son when I was 22. So I was very young. He's 12 now. Wow. I know. It's great. Yeah, I love it. I got divorced pretty much immediately, which was a good thing, but we co-parent well, and my son is the best thing that's ever happened to me, honestly. What's going on

with the water with these boys in Charleston? They're like rowdy. I feel like they're hard to tame. Yes. I mean, let's just say Charleston is a place you go and visit when you're traveling and they know that it's just like import of girls all the time. And there's eight to one ratio. So there's eight females for one male. So why not have three girlfriends?

I'd go lesbian. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's just like you're fighting an uphill battle at that point. Yeah. You got a date outside of the box. Have you always lived in Charleston? Well, 16 years. And where were you before?

Greenville, South Carolina. So upstate. Born and raised. Yeah. So when the show is around, do you feel the bug that you need to be on television? Because you have a star sparkle about you. Oh, that's so sweet. You do.

Thank you. Like immediately you can tell. You know, not really. I just kind of actually the first year I got on the show, I wasn't sure that they were even talking about me because I was like a day rate kind of girl. They were like, oh, come to this party. We'll pay you like a thousand dollars. I'm like, OK, sure. And then I didn't realize the whole show was based around me. And then that's when it all kicked the hornet's nest.

So when you watch the show back and you see the whole show is about you, from a business standpoint, are you like, I'm upping my rate? And also, are you happy about it? Or were you kind of like, eh? Well, I felt like I didn't have a voice. You know, it was the guys speaking for me. You know, I was being called white trash. You know, I was a service worker, all these things. I wasn't born into money that was just mailed to my house in a mailbox.

So for me, it kind of ticked me off just enough to be successful at it. You came back, I feel like, the season after that with a vendetta. You were like, I felt like you were like, I'm taking my voice back. Oh, yeah. Was that like thought out or did it just come out?

It just came naturally. I didn't even really have to try. What was the reaction when you started doing that? Were they like, whoa, what's going on? The person that was the day rate is now like screaming at all of us and taking over the show and you know having a much greater voice were they positive to that react or to that you know experience or were they like whoa tone it down i definitely think my showmates were a little

taken back but they were upset that they probably introduced me to the group because they realized real quick I wasn't going to have it. I was going to take them all down, at least the ones that pissed me off. Is it all real behind the scenes or is it like set up? It's pretty real. I mean, obviously there's going to be situations that I wouldn't put myself in like, you know, having a drink with an ex, but it is real from that point on. Once we walk in and we sit down, it's real. And you're very good friends with Patricia, who's sort of like the matriarch of the show.

She's absolutely fabulous. What advice did she give you going into the show? Be myself. That was her advice. Check, check. Yep, check. Check. So as your relationship with Austin, who just, if you guys haven't watched Southern Charm,

you have to. It's the best show ever, is sort of crumbling on air. What is happening off air that we didn't see? You know, these friendships, especially the guys, they're genuine. I mean, they're real friendships and a lot of emotions. I think they cry more than the girls cry on this show. It's endearing, but they really have a

bromance going when they fight all the time. When people from South Carolina dig you, it's like a piece of cornbread with jalapenos in it. What the hell does that mean? You think you're taking a nice bite of honey cornbread

and there's a little spice in there. Why are you trying to do an accent? Hey, by the end of this, y'all both will have an accent. I know, I'm trying to get an accent going. I have no idea what that analogy was. Meaning like you don't, it's not like New York and LA is very curt with the way

I think that they... When you say dig you, do you mean like dig like me or dig like they dig you? The way you just, the way I think that they... When you say dig you, do you mean like dig like me? The way you dig is different. Oh, like when you kind of like... You know what I'm saying? When you give a little fighting word, it's different. Right. You're like, did I just get insulted or maybe not? Okay, I get it now. I had honestly the corn

bread and the jalapeno in your accent. Keep up. It's like a piece of corn bread. It's like a spiced sweet tea, you know? It's like a spicy sweet tea. You were going to try to do the accent again. I know. I know what you're up to. I love the accent. I mean, I could go and live there if the guy to ratio wasn't that, whew, that's rough. What's crazy is I don't think I have an accent, but. Oh, you got an accent. You got a real one, Lauren. I love the accent. I think it's so pretty. Thank you. Don't ever lose the accent. So as you're going on on the show and you meet your now husband,

who seems to me that he's very quietly confident and doesn't feel like he wants to even be a part of it. Not at all. What is happening with that behind the scenes while all this is going on? Oh, he's looking at me and he's like, Madison, do I have to really go to this black tie party? And I'm like, yes, you do. It's okay.

So he doesn't want to do it? No. He doesn't want to go to the party or he doesn't want to be on camera? He doesn't want either one, really. Yeah. I mean, the guy's not made for, I think he's made for camera, but he just isn't interested. He's private. He's a little shy until you like really get to know him.

Well, I always, I analyze these shows again as a fan and a viewer. And I think that they're, speaking of ratios, a lot of the time these shows don't work very well for the men. Like it doesn't turn out well for them. Like just to even talk about Thomas or some of the guys that are on Housewives, we know a lot of these. I think it works a lot more of the time in the woman's favor. Like you can go and build a life and a career and you you know and and all sorts of great things and people are like oh they fall in love with the character but the guys a lot of times like why are you in the ladies fight why are you involved here what do you it's a weird thing for the guys and a lot of

times i feel like they get put in these situations where it's like it's a lose-lose for them right i mean obviously the first thing you think is like, okay, this is my marriage. This is the one thing I'm going to protect from everything. But also it is my life and my reality. And you're not going to know me until you meet who I'm surrounded with every day. And so I have to pressure him in that sense, but also protect him because he didn't sign up for this. So I'm very protective. And especially this new season, you'll see that. I think that you do a good job of balancing that.

I can feel that, the energy and the undertone of that. I think that you're like, this is my job. I'm going to do it 100%. But like you said, he didn't sign up for this. So like, we'll pepper him in. But like, I always say about my kids on my Instagram story, my kids are extras on my Instagram story, right? They're not the main character. They're not a supporting sporting character. Maybe you'll see him like once every two weeks here and there, you're not going to see me potty training them and their first words and them walking and like

them on the first day of school every year. Like you just not so I think that that's how I see it as a viewer it's like he is sort of like an extra to your life you don't need to show your entire marriage because you feel confident in it right for sure I don't know if that's no I mean listen it annoys me all the time when you have people on social media who are like oh you're never with your kid or you're never with your husband. And you're like, wow, did you just see the Instagram story for the last week? That's why you say things like that. It's hurtful, but deep down, I know that it's. Well, I could get that. I mean, if I was doing what you were doing, I'd be very hesitant to put my family in that situation for the visibility of the world all the time. Right. But I feel like, again, doing what you do, I would say like, this is a curated environment.

We can sit down in our studio and I can control it and I don't have to get in fights with Lauren's friends and all that. But, you know, it's not the same. Like we, like speaking of having a voice, like we produce this, what we say is like what goes out. You guys are filming with an ensemble cast and you don't always have say over the end.

And then there's this weird dynamic that exists. And I see this all the time we work with a lot of people in in your shoes that do these kind of shows where people on the internet that comment on something like this is completely different than them commenting on a reality show like they feel like they can go in on everything and the comments are brutal yeah that's the worst part about this job that and the reunion have you gotten a thicker skin because of the comments? I mean, I've always kind of had a thick skin thanks to my mother. But, you know, it's just one of those things that every day I feel like I've heard everything under the sun about myself or my family. So, yeah, you tend to block it out.

What rattles you at this point? I think it's definitely my son and my husband. I mean, for me, I really don't care what anyone says about me to this point. But for them, like I said, they didn't sign up for it. So they're innocent. People need to understand, too, that an Instagram story is like one to two minutes of your whole day. Yeah. Yeah. And some of it's not even happening in actual real time. So for people to say you never see your blank or you're never with your blank it's one to two minutes of the day right it's kind of like a really broad assumption to say that i think that that's like a dig that they

think will get you yeah but you're actually living in your own life. You have been very honest about huge celebrities that have slid into your DMs before you were married. What do you do when you get on television? You're this beautiful blonde and you get all these huge celebrities DMing you. Is it like flattering? Are you going on dates with them? Are you grossed out? Like what's the vibe? At this time when this was happening, I was like, am I being catfished? You know, like I'm just a girl from the South that's like small town. Like there's no way that these A-list celebrities are interested at that point. And then to come to find out it was real.

But that's when you then get grossed out because you're like, actually, you're a pig. I know. That's that's exactly kind of get grossed out because you're like actually you're a pig i know that's that's exactly kind of what i was getting at you almost are like ew yeah like it's it's like cheaty vibe very it when you come out with all of this information what was the behind the scenes like oh man that yeah that's behind the scenes is rough when you're trying to navigate and then it comes out to the public that this has actually happened. And then people call you liars and of course. But I'm like, why would I ever lie about that? Well, also, you have the screenshots. Right. So I don't think. And I'm just going to go ahead and say that whatever you said is probably a hundred times worse with a hundred more people.

Yes. I would guess. Yes. So people are even lucky that you even said something. Right. When you met your husband and you guys got married, what did you guys talk about behind the scenes about the show? Did you set parameters or boundaries or has it been something where you just threw yourself into it? We just kind of threw ourselves into it and we just knew that the main focus was obviously our marriage and whatever happened, we made sure that was the main

source of not dragging in the outside noise. So what has the season been like compared to last? What are we going to see differently okay I you know I'm going to try to say this without getting fired you know but so this year is um I'm it's my most emotional year I've ever had so I'm dealing with like my dad had just passed when I started airing with this I was very emotional worked up I was still grieving at that point um my husband was going through some health issues which which was obviously very scary, you know, trying to have a baby, all of these real things that were actually happening and then filming a show with people who didn't really know what was going on behind closed doors.

You were very open about the loss of your father. Since losing your father, what have you done differently in your own life? Is there something that he taught you that you just start, you're applying every single day? Well, I mean, I would say this without trying to cry, but I think that like, obviously me and my husband just celebrated our two-year wedding anniversary. And I swear, I think my dad put him in my life just because I feel so safe. And I always felt like that with my dad around. But there was a fear of me when I lost my dad. Like, oh, my God, who am I going to call on when I need something?

And then my husband has obviously just been there a thousand percent. He's a good one, huh? Very good. He's not from Charles, Tennessee. No, California. Mine's from California, too. Look at him. Yeah. I'm pretty good one, huh? Very good. He's not from Charles, Tennessee. No, California. Mine's from California, too. Look at him. Yeah.

I'm a pretty good one. I do like a guy from California. I do. So you have had, in my opinion, one of the most incredible changes physically that I've ever seen. And I think from watching your stories, a big part of that is through weightlifting. You have to give our audience all your secrets. I know you seem very militant about how you handle what you eat, your workouts, your body. I love it. Give us every

single detail. Well, I've been seeing your weightlifting, so good for you. You really inspired me a lot. I always like to watch your stories. You're one of the she works so hard in the gym. I've never seen anyone work so hard. You're like David Goggins. Well, I will say I the working out. I've always been athletic, but it didn't like consume my life. But there were times when it was a little extreme. I was working out too much. I was under eating. But I know that the focus is just to feel good. And that's the main thing that I try to do to my day to day. Obviously, the eating is, I feel like one of the number one reasons to being in shape and looking healthy. But the weightlifting for me, instead of going to therapy, I would just go lift weights. That was like my escape.

What kickstarted it? Did you see yourself on TV and be like, I want to change this? Or was it before TV? It was after TV, obviously. You know, the camera will add 10 pounds. It's rough. It is rough. So I look at that and I said, you know what?

The goal is to be above average. I feel like I looked fine, but like I can do better than this. So that's when I just dedicated, you know, six days a week. I mean, I was like leaving these workouts and I was throwing up outside of the car because I would push myself to the point. Michael, she's gnarly with her workout. I think that's a great message. I think like a lot of people are hesitant to say that they want to be above average these days for whatever reason. And I go, I always like go on these big tangents. I think it's like, it's commendable to say like, I want to be above average and I can be above average. Right. A lot of people are just like, it's like that message is like looked down upon sometimes these days. But I think like that's the whole point of human potential is like, if you, if you can be above average, why would you not try?

Yeah. I mean, you're never going to know until you try it. Have you always weightlifted or was this something that you started doing later in life? Because a lot of women, I mean, now we talk about a lot on the show, but I've always weightlifted my whole life, but it was strange to me when she started doing it. I was like, is this something I didn't attribute to thinking that women even did when I was younger? Yeah.

I actually have done it for quite some time but not to the extent i mean it was the weight lifting for me it was a little scary because i didn't want to bulk up i was a little heavier at the time so i was scared but then that's when the weight kind of started to shed off when i did lift a little heavier. You almost have to like, you gain the muscle and then you still, like for me, I still had the fat on me. And so you feel like you're regressing. Right. And then all of a sudden it drops. I always find it so funny when women say they don't want to bulk up.

I'm like, do you understand that men go to the gym like every single day just to try to get a little, it's so hard. It is very hard. It's not that easy to bulk up. I mean, everyone's scared of, you know, looking like a thug in a cocktail dress. But at the same time, you just have to take that risk. And like it does end up working out in your favor, especially I think having the good diet and lifting the weights is is the perfect key. I'm taking my multivitamin into the new year with me. I'm not leaving it. I love this multivitamin.

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I've never really done one of like what I eat in a day because it's just, that's so hard to do. I don't know how these women make these videos, but I'm a creature of habit. Okay. I do cottage cheese, tomatoes, hard boiled egg, cucumbers, avocado in the morning. I do AG1 greens. I'm not sponsored. I wish I was. I do love them.

We should sponsor you. I know. On your podcast that you're going to launch. Keep going. I love it. They're going to reach out now. Yeah. So lunch for me, I mean, it's really just whatever I can get my hands on.

I obviously have probably two cups of coffee in between there. I love a good Red Bull. And I know that's probably really bad for me. And then I'm a grill master. I'm actually really good on the grill. And that's kind of what I eat every night. Steaks, chicken, everything? Steaks, chicken, fish.

Everything. Yeah, everything. What about alcohol? What's the relationship like with the show? Because if I was on a reality show, I would be drinking every single time we film. Yeah. Oh, I drink every time.

And a lot of champagne. Yeah. I'm not, listen, I'm a little hesitant of liquor. I'm a lightweight, I think. But the champagne, I just love. Yeah, that's my drink of choice. Champagne on ice and I'm good to go. And I'm like, you know what?

I don't care about the sugar. I don't care about the salt. I'll jump in the sauna and I'll lay there for 45 minutes. You love cold plunging and sunning. You have a wellness room in your house, right? Tell us about that. So the sauna is brutal. My husband actually loves it more than me, but he likes to get in there together. And I don't know about you guys, but I hate hate that i don't want to do it with him no because like he's breathing and then it's taking up the little bit of air i have in there and i'm like dude i can't breathe don't breathe um so yeah he's i don't like to do that but 45 minutes for me and then i just five minutes in the sauna like one round one round that's a long ass time what kind

of heat are we talking here you don't want to know like 165 okay that's okay why what do you do no no where ours is jacked up but hold on no no no no you can't do that what is what what is ours no we go to two we go to 200 oh okay i almost killed jesse it's learn our sauna but but again we're in there for like like I'm gonna send you the link he bought this thing that makes it go high he like took the governor off of it

I took the governor off and I bought the upgrade but anyways but I think that maybe it's strategic to do 45 minutes on a little bit lower no no no

but that's still really good to go for that long yeah it's good for your heart yeah I don't know I would die in mine but yeah

15-20 minute sessions then I have to get out see mine only goes to 175 but now if I know I can like pull a little yeah it's good for your heart yeah i don't know but i would die in mine but yeah like 15 20 minute sessions then i have to get out mine only goes to 175 but now if i know i can like pull a little i'm gonna send your husband the information take off that governor oh my gosh boost it up and then what's your cold plunge wellness situation okay this is my number one rule with cold plunge is right when you get in you send it go completely under don't even yeah all the way and then you sit there for three minutes three minutes and then you're done so you do 45 three minutes yep 45 three minutes and then once you get out of the cold plunge you just want to like walk around the gym or like i just walk around to like naturally let my body heat back up and i do not get back in the

sauna and as far as your workouts you mentioned six times a week. What exact workouts are you doing? So that was when I was weightlifting a lot more. I've chilled out on that right now. I'm doing more like a bar classing, hot Pilates kind of thing right now. You said that you got like obsessed with it. Is that because of the show? Is that because of a bad relationship? Like why did you get obsessed with it? And when you of the show? Is that because of a bad relationship? Like, why did you get obsessed with it? And when you look back, like what changed? You know, I mean, obviously you kind of get obsessed with the results. You know, I mean, you're looking at your legs and you're like, I never thought that I could have this definition.

And then you get a little too obsessed. And obviously at that point I was single when I was doing all this all the time. And so I wasn't having too at that point I was single when I was doing all this all the time. And so I wasn't having too much fun. I was just more disciplined. And then you're in your DMs and there's like the biggest celebrities in the world messaging you. So you're like, this is working. So I'm just going to kick it up another notch. And I didn't even have any plastic surgery when I was doing all that yet. So it was, yeah. Breakups good for motivation though. Don't you think like you get that's when you like kind of get going again i told my husband i'm like just break up with me for like a month

yeah let's just see what happens yeah if you dump me i'll be like yeah it'll be over for you if i dumped you you would put in your bio lauren uh bostick's ex-husband oh i've talked about this for years i wouldn't put my my dating bios just be like lauren's ex i would use all that i'd take pictures of us from the past i feel like girlfriend would be like oh but are we spending thanksgiving with lauren no i'd be like yeah you're like instant listen i tell all my friends one one way is as good as another you know what i mean like let's not make it hard yeah what advice this was a question a lot of the audience asked would you give to single mothers out there? Okay, so this is what my dad said about me, and I've done this as being a parent as well,

and that's just don't kill their spirit. There's things about Hudson that are quirky or safe. I just let him be him. I try not to be extremely hardcore or make him the vision that i want him to be i let him be himself so i love that advice like not projecting your personality onto them either like my daughter my daughter is a little bit more of an observer than i am when i was little i was like came out tap dancing yeah of the womb and she's she's not like that. She takes a little bit longer to get to know. She wants to vet you. And so I always try.

I really think about that. Like I don't want to project my personality onto her. Yeah. I mean, that's all you have to do. The scene of you with your, and I don't know that you saw this episode because you would have totally mentioned it. The scene with your little boy getting bullied. Oh, no, I did see that pissed me off. I did see that Oh my god, I just hate that they cut the part where I went over to the lady's house Yeah, you want to talk about like what did you say?

Well, of course, no one was home So what do I do? I like start talking to the ring camera, like ringing it. I'm like, hey, I'm writing you a note in case you're like little shit kid tears it up. But I need you to call me like we have a problem. And the kid was in third grade. No parents were home. So the kids just out there running in the road by himself. And so I instantly thought I told Hudson, I said, he clearly has issues with family issues. I mean, how could you just leave him outside running around? So then I kind of refrained from getting any crazier. But that was something that I've never heard anyone speak about

is the bullying and having to witness that was really hard. That obviously there was no, let's say, for that. When he comes walking in crying, he wasn't even supposed to be filming that day when Hudson walked in. I don't know what I would do in that situation. Well, I started crying because I was like, I'm going to freak out. Like, please. And my husband's like, okay. I was like, I know I might go to jail. Help me. Like I'm, I'm like shaking. I don't know what to do. I don't think that's something you could understand if you haven't become a parent yet yeah because I don't know like I said I don't know what I would do I would I'd probably go jail

yeah you think it you're like oh my god because you can't do anything to the kid but like no I'd have to go and like find the dad and like probably do something to dad right like or like if they're not talking they get like because there's I think when you become a parent, you're obviously protective of yourself as an individual, but people don't understand there's some trigger that happens when you have a child. It's so much more important to protect that child than even yourself. Like imagine if you've gone through life as the most important thing

in your life is yourself, right? And maybe your family members, but then you have this child and you're like, you will do anything. Oh, for sure. I can't imagine. i think it's important though that the show left that in because it showed like your mama bear instincts toward your son and you guys had had this history of you being a single mom and you it's the show has showed you work so hard whether you were doing your glam or running your business, it showed you work. And then it was a moment that you're right. It hasn't really that moment like hasn't really

been caught that I've seen on reality television. And the way that you handled it was very graceful. And I thought that it was it was good. They left it in. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was good. Yeah. I mean, obviously, there's the part after where I was like get your shoes we're getting in the car okay so you know I at this point I could care less who was in the room I was like either you're following me where I'm going or what and maybe it's a good thing they were there that's what my husband says like I think you toned it down thankfully because of the cameras I was like but my son's in the back seat and he goes, that lady don't know who my mama is. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, I don't even think you know how I'm feeling right now. But it was the worst. That was the worst day in filming history

I've had so far. What is a misconception you think the audience is unaware of when it comes to filming a show like this? Is there something that you wish people would know that they just don't know as being an audience member? I mean, yeah, but I probably shouldn't say that. No, just say it. Okay. I mean, no peer pressure. I mean, I think that like, for me,

it's one of those things being newly married and people see me hanging around an ex, they assume that like I'm doing this just because I want to go hang out with them. But I'm getting paid to be here and have this conversation and be in the same room. So that's what we're doing. It's also more than just getting paid, in my opinion. It's like an incredible platform for you to do what you do and have mobility to move how you move.

I mean, billboards, entrepreneur endeavors, businesses. Like you're doing, in my businesses, like you're doing, in my opinion, like you're also doing it as a mother. But what you're saying is if you weren't filming a show with another cast member,

you would not be in that situation as a normal person that wasn't filming a show. It's not really rocket science. Well, I know it's not rocket science, but that's what I'm saying. Sometimes people,

they forget that they're, listen, it's reality TV, but there is, you know, it is aimed up a bit. I think people forget that there's 15 people in a room that they're... Listen, it's reality TV, but there is... It is aimed up a bit. I think people forget that there's 15 people in a room when you're filming. Right now, who is your favorite on the cast besides your husband and Hudson? I mean, we'll take Patricia out of that too because she's always my favorite. Oh, this one's going to be hard because it's Craig.

I mean, I love Craig Craig and then it's Austin so you guys are friends yeah you guys are truly friends well you didn't add Shep in there well yeah because you know he'll always be a little bit on the outs but all season the producers were calling us the core four so three guys and myself so is like is that your husband's like seems very confident and cool He's like those are your friends. Yeah, he doesn't he's he has nothing to be insecure about If I was on that show I feel like I would be the same way. Yeah, I would be with those three guys. Yeah, it's very there's almost something like Michael

There's almost a feminine energy and I mean that in like in like a nice way Michael has a feminine energy too I like when guys are comfortable with their feminine energy like the fact that Craig has a sewing company so like cool I don't know he leans into it I'm really manly Lauren right no you can't be maternal I mean I'm trying to be Martha Stewart and Craig is like giving me a run for my money I'm like Craig, Craig, okay, don't start baking now because I want to do that. Why don't you guys do a collaboration? We should. Some kind of Madison period.

A kitchen collection. Yeah. I don't know if he's going to share all that with me, but we'll see. I like Craig. I feel like we would get along. I want him to come on this show we have some mutual friends he seems like he'd be a fun guy to talk to we also like Paige adorable

I know she's so cute who is someone that's new that's coming on the cast that you're like well I brought all the new ones on so I like them you like all the new ones is there anyone that you're not loving on the cast? Well, he's gone now, but yeah.

JT. Yeah. And have you always not gotten along with him, or is this a new development in the season? This is new, brand new. I mean, I actually thought he was good for the show because everyone needs that one crazy-ass person. He made me look completely normal, so I enjoyed him being on the show. What are the things that viewers are going to be surprised about this season? Like, why is this a good season? Because you can tell it's going to be good. Why is it juicy?

Oh, I don't, I mean, one, we're getting a lot of episodes. So that's when you know, it's going to be good, but we've got a messy group this year. You know, it's messy. And nobody, everybody wants, you know, to be number one. So you'll see a lot of that. How do you guys navigate that from a competition? Like, do you, is there jealousy? Does it feel like it's a competition? Is like, hey, that person got more camera time.

I mean, I think the guys feel that way. I don't, I don't really. You don't think the girls do too? Probably. She's been kind of an effortless star. It hasn't been my issue. Yeah, it hasn't been my issue. I mean, I don't know that she's the right person to ask that.

I will say I went from being forbidden, like the forbidden fruit of the group, to now being the narrator and the voice of the show. So, yeah, very proud. You know what, that's evolved, though. That's so cool. Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

I mean, I'm living like my dream life in the sense of, you know, I was working six days a week doing hair and things like that. And now I'm able to be home and be present and travel and do all the things. What is your day toto-day that's not shown on the air? Like what is the normal moments for Madison? Okay, so I do flowers every Monday. Like I cut flowers in my house. I'm a little like homemaker. I don't know if they're going to show a lot of that this year, but that's like... I can see it from your house. Yeah. But I think that they show me very stern and I'm a little soft and in my home at least. So I'm in my feminine energy for once. That's really funny that you say that.

I was doing an interview and I said that exact same thing. I'm super masculine. But when I'm home, I'm like, it's like you get like a totally different version. I know. You have me listening to jazz music and stuff. I mean, I'm like, I'm like, I want to like I bake brownies and like light incense and just listen to Christmas jazz. I feel like you have to have that balance, though, because you you do have a masculine energy.

Like I relate to that. And it makes total sense that at home you're more feminine. What are other normal moments? Are you taking Hudson to school? What are you doing throughout the day? Are you building another business? What are you doing that we wouldn't see maybe on the show? My husband and I, we're going into business together, but I know I need all the tips. Um, so I wanted to do a pajama line because I wanted something that was like comfy and feminine, but still reasonable because sometimes when I post, you know, these pajamas, my girls are like, Madison, come on, I'm not paying $200 for pajamas.

And I was like, you don't need to. I'm just going to make some that everybody can afford and do. And that's kind of been exciting to see that come to light. It'll be called LaCroix under my last name. So I'm excited. And kind of trying to navigate that has been very interesting. So. You know that I'm a pajama connoisseur and I will be the first to wear your pajamas. I love pajamas. Oh, I can't wait to send you a big box. I can't wait to try your pajamas. Are they colors or prints or silk or what? So we're going to start just like solid. Okay. Nothing too crazy until I get into like seasonal stuff. But yeah. What's been the back end of building that business? Well, I didn't how how many opinions my husband had on styles that's

been the most interesting part about it he's like yeah i was like okay i was like i hate that but um it's been good i don't know i it's gonna be hard i think but overall the vision that we both came up with i think it's gonna be really good so this is what I'll say it's it's the most challenging thing no it's the most challenging thing to work with your partner especially when they want to blab about it every second yeah but it's super rewarding if it works and I do think it will work for you guys because your personalities seem very synergistic if you were both like if you were both one way i think it's harder that's my opinion yeah no i mean you're you're you're right on that i mean he knows he's like operations and logistics and i'm more like i the visionary or at least that's how you see it. I see the ideas. I see that, no?

And all the aesthetics. Yeah, all the aesthetics. And you just stick to the back room, bitch. I think if I could give you any advice, we were good at defining the lanes early on. Okay. Like I will have a perspective and an opinion on aesthetic sometimes,

but then like I'll share it and at the end of the day, it's like, she's fine, I'll say, right? Yeah. But if like on the other side, like if it is operational or financials, like I'll listen to her opinion, but then I'll have fun. We like, we kind of got, I think when you say like, everybody's got an equal say in everything. This is my opinion as someone who's worked with my spouse. I think that gets dicey because then it's like, like, I look at it like this. If you're running a company and I feel this way, whenever I see co-CEOs, I'm like, oh, that thing's not going to go very well. Like you need to have somebody that's like the final say in something. And so for her business, like she's

the CEO for the, for Dear Me Down, like you got to have that because if not, then it gets to the point where you're fighting all the time. Yeah. I kind of was like, just give me your money and I'll handle it. But that works. Are there any portrayals that you think are unfair at this point that you wish they would change or that you could speak to? Or you feel like it's kind of now you've done it for long enough that it's all kind of come out and evened out? Yeah. I mean. Like, I imagine like other seasons that you finish, you're like, that season was unfair and I didn't get to like bookend how I'm either looking or feeling. Does that make sense? Well, I only see it the day before the public. So I really don't know. I have no control over it. So it's almost like this is what you're given. Take it or leave it. And, you know.

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Yeah. I mean, you kind of can't do anything anything but a lot of times i'll look at a i'll look at an episode I kind of wait till the season's over before I give my opinions because I think of it as like if i'm gonna phone a friend like my higher ups and i'm gonna complain to i'm gonna make sure that like They realize like this is the problem and I never want that to happen again or be betrayed in that way And they normally will listen, but I think it's the person that calls like this is the problem and I never want that to happen again or be betrayed in that way. And they normally will listen. But I think it's the person that calls after every episode that they end up pinning to look bad. Yeah. You know, I, cause obviously these, these episodes that we do, they get clipped and I never

care if somebody sees something out of context on the internet, like in a clip and then they see it and they have a perspective because I know that the full context always lives in the long form that we produce. Does that make sense? Yeah. But I would imagine I would be super frustrated if I was you and things were being pulled out of context and then they never got to see the long form. What do you mean? That's the whole show. No, I know that. Well, the trailer is-

Then you'd be frustrated. But even like the episode that comes out, I imagine there's stuff that they just don't show or context that doesn't get seen ever. Where here, like the full context always lives. Does that make sense? Right. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things you kind of sign yourself to the devil.

I mean, you're like, we own you and we're going to say and do whatever you want. Sometimes I've even said things in the past and I'd be talking about something completely different and then they would pan it to a whole nother story. And I'm like, but wait, I didn't, that's not how I said that or who I was even talking to. That's exactly what I'm saying. Like someone could pull some clip of me, but then if they go back to the full, it's in full context, like they can literally take something and mash it to something else. That's not even the same conversation. It's like the. It's the gag. Yeah.

I just wonder how the heck they do it because it ends up like I'm talking exactly about that one thing that they're. What's the worst moment you've had on air and your proudest moment? Obviously, I feel like my reunions can sometimes be my worst moment. I mean. I like them. Yeah, they're really I don't like that feeling of feeling ganged up on, especially when you have like six people coming to you at one time. I know I'll end up being fine, but it's just uncomfortable because you can't just get up and run away,

which some people do. But I think my proudest moment would be becoming the narrator of the show has been a really proud moment. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. That is a good one. Because I'm like, listen up, bitches. Yeah, I can't wait. You've been so open about plastic surgery.

I appreciate it so much because I was just having this conversation with my friend Katie on air. And she's like, she was talking about how all these celebrities are getting facelifts and brow lifts and neck lifts. And no one's honest. And everyone just thinks they're using filler. And you've been so honest. And I think it's so cool. What has the reaction been like? I'm going to guess it's been positive.

Yeah. I mean, my following is 98% female. Okay. So it's like me talking to the girls when I'm telling them, hey, listen, I got to my lowest weight. I had a 10 pound, nine ounce baby.

My skin was loose and I needed a tummy tuck. So that's why I didn't. I didn't know you talked about a tummy tuck. Yeah. Oh, I didn't hear that one. That's not what I was talking about.

Mommy makeover. Never a facelift. I know you didn't get a facelift. I'm not talking about Madison. Do not pull that clip publication. I'm talking about other celebrities that I talked about on a podcast, not Madison. I was actually talking about your boobs. Yeah. Tommy

tuck. Tell me about that. Oh, it's brutal. Does it hurt? Yeah. Would you do it again though? Oh, yeah. So you love how it looks. Yeah. So here's why is it painful? What do they mean? Why is it? I mean, you know... Why don't you take your balls and throw them over your fucking shoulder, Michael?

Doesn't seem like the same thing. Yeah. Or to your butt crack. Ow. So it won't gang up on your neck. Well, I'm just wondering. I'm just like... Wait.

I need to know about a tummy tuck. So it hurts a lot. Mm-hmm. And what's the whole process? So I did breast and tummy tuck at the same time so small implant with a lift yeah and then I like I said I was I was probably like 10 pounds lighter than I am right now when I had this surgery so it wasn't like this thing where people think okay you're removing fat that that wasn't the reason I was doing the tummy tuck. It was just the skin from the baby.

And they just sew it. They pull it down, sew it right back up, and you're kind of stuck like this. Wait, I have this weird question that I think about like every day. Why don't they do it up? That's what I said. Because you want the belly button to go up, right? I like everything to go up. Me too. Maybe they can't pull it. Then there's a scar. Is there a scar? That's what I'm wondering you want the belly button to go up right i like everything to go up me too pull it then there's a is there a scar that's what i'm wondering i'm just like

the scar but i was like well if you're gonna do the boobs why not just pull this up and then stitch it from the underneath thank goodness i'm not a doctor but i maybe there's something anatomy we're doing it wrong this whole time i know like come on use your brain so here's my question you've talked about maybe wanting to get pregnant again yeah so do you have to get another They've been doing it wrong this whole time. I know, like, come on. Use your brain. So here's my question. You've talked about maybe wanting to get pregnant again. Yeah. So do you have to get another tummy tuck? Not you, but like, do they tell you you have to get another tummy tuck after you get pregnant again?

Well, first off, I am, that's why I'm terrified of being pregnant. I know it's worth it. Like, I feel like, you know, I've been in shape before after a baby. I can do it again. All that kind of stuff doesn't bother me. But it's more of like, I feel like, you know, I've been in shape before after a baby. I can do it again. All that kind of stuff doesn't bother me. But it's more of like it is tight, you know, so to think to have a baby, which I'm praying for, like Thumbelina or something. Not really, but I'm going to be very mindful. Tinkerbell?

Yeah. Tom. I'm going to be very mindful. The microchip I saw before michaels oh my god but yeah i'm scared of that but i will be doing a tummy tuck again okay so so it's one of those things that if you get like i'm just wondering like if i was gonna have more kids you wouldn't get it you know i guess you could get it done but then you get it done again yeah did you do this before i mean i'm ignorant to this did you think you were you were done

having kids and now you okay yeah so you so now you're like i was finished but now you might be going back into it yes and i'm looking at my husband like boy you're crazy he's he's ready to go back into it oh yeah that's it's that's a gnarly endeavor to think you're done and then go you have to kind of wrap your mind around it. Yeah. That's crazy. You had your first child at 22. I mean, I know people do that, but that's very young because we had ours at 33.

Yeah. I'm 34 now, so I'm going to start all over. Does he want one or five? Well, one would be fine. But I'm like, if I'm going to ruin it all over again, might as well have two. Yeah. You could throw twins in there. No. Like I said, I don't know how I'm going to ruin it all over again, might as well have two. Yeah. You could throw twins in there. No.

Like I said, I don't know how I'm even going to be able to. You're going to do great. And you are, like you said, you already know what to do. Yeah. I also will tell you my first pregnancy, I didn't know anything about weightlifting and gained so much weight. And then the second pregnancy, I did know about weightlifting and I was able to do it the whole pregnancy. And it was a completely different experience yeah see I've never done weight lifting

pregnant so it's different yeah like it will be different so don't feel I hope your baby's not 10 pounds though yeah no like I said I'm gonna be on my same diet that I'm on right now not diet but mindful eating you know yeah great they're gonna pull clip. Madison LaCroix says she's going to diet while pregnant. And smoke cigarettes. What is the best advice that Patricia has ever given you? And you could give us a lot of pieces. I think it's such a special relationship that you guys have. Well, a lot of the things she tells me,

I couldn't say on here. I'll let her do that. But she always told me, you are single until proven engaged. So until the man tells you like, listen, I'm going to marry you, blah, blah, blah. You know, don't close off opportunities for somebody who is ready and etc. I like when she says, I'm no shrinking violet. Everything she says is just iconic.

I studied her book, The Art of Charm. She tells you what stationery to buy, what sheets to get, what linens. I mean, she's really an incredible tastemaker. You know, we did an episode with her.

In her house. And we went to the house a long time ago. Yeah, she talks about you too. I told her I was coming here and she's like, oh, tell them I said hello. I haven't seen her.

I would like to see her again. We haven't seen her in a while. I'm her biggest fan. Oh, well, she loves you. I'm her biggest fan. I think she's she loves you. I'm her biggest fan. I think she's absolutely fabulous. She is. I mean, and stunning.

I mean, I gave her her first spray tan one time. And let me just say, the woman, I'm like, you have the fountain of youth back here. Let me get a little swig of that. Oh, when I went to interview her, I was like, let me look in your bathroom. Yeah. I was like, Dr. Dennis Gross pads. I mean, she's really like, she has gorgeous skin. Yes.

Speaking of skin, you got to give us some beauty and skin tips. I feel like you, did you do your own makeup today? No. Oh, well, you do do your own makeup and hair, I feel like. I do. Okay. You have the tips. Give us the tips.

Okay. Good skincare, obviously, to start flawless makeup, number one. I do think that as I get older, less is more when it comes to foundation and things like that. Powder can be a little harsh, but when you're in camera and things like that, obviously, we're piling that on. So day to day, be light handed. I agree. It's youthful. Yeah. The too much makeup look, it ages okay can i tell you something i was like am i gonna get a spray tan and then i was like i don't know i think spray tans are going out and

then i was like i was like wait lauren's not she didn't look like tan like a spray tan i was like fuck it i'm not getting a spray tan so i'm out here roll i have tight sun i like how it looks i like how it looks it does it looks better right it's absurd she'll be like don't use any cologne which is fine i don't and then she'll have somebody once in a while come in with like a giant paint gun no i haven't gotten a spray tan in a while i i do think that it makes you look sometimes long in the tooth yeah yeah yeah but the person it's like you're going to a paint booth she's like don't spray that cologne and there's like this person with like a giant spray gun okay well your hairspray is atrocious i don't use it i didn't use hairspray okay well give us what's some juicy gossip about

the boys of southern charm what's something funny about them i feel like they are what you see on tv is what you get in real life. Okay. I mean, they are that crazy and funny. They remind me of like the three characters from like a Disney show. Yes. It's like, yes. I was going to say like Hocus Pocus, but I'm trying to think what, I don't know. They fight, they get back together.

They're all just like in love with each other. Yeah, it it's like so endearing it's like just be together yeah we should go down we should go back to charleston we're gonna go back to charleston we keep saying we're gonna do it come on you know my doctor and my favorite skin person is in charleston if you don't go to the converse do you know the converse the Connivers? No. Is that your skin people? Dr. Craig Conniver is the same name as Craig Conniver, but this is Dr. Craig Conniver and he's in Charleston. Not to be confused with Craig Conniver. Don't tell him that. He'll start calling himself doctor.

At Kelly Conniver's office every week. I'm going to introduce you to her. Oh my God, please. Not that you need anything. No, I do. But her skin is so fabulous. They're the best. Are we doing NAD now? Have y'all? I get it from Dr. Craig Conniver. We get it from Dr. Craig. please not that you need anything no i do but she's a her skin is so fabulous she's like they're the best are we doing nad now have y'all i get it from dr craig bingo that's all i need to know

he's there he's the best and his i'm gonna put you on text with them you have to you should they do like anything useful okay they're the best i'm ready to go down there and make a cameo in southern charm no we're gonna we're gonna come down having. I think that the next interview with Madison is at Patricia's house. Let's invite ourselves over. Yeah. Over martinis and caviar. And we do a whole interview with both of you guys. We would love that.

Yeah. And then you guys can tell us how we get started on our podcast. I'm going to tell you before then. I'll tell you that before then. We'll tell you that. Okay. And you will crush it, which I to tell you before then you guys will tell you that okay and you will crush it which i'll tell you off air before you go how do you make a madison taco i saw this tick tock i don't know if it was a taco or a wrap a mat excuse me how do you make a madison wrap oh i was like

i don't know if i make tacos a wrap it's a wrap okay well now with all the listeria i don't really eat deli meat anymore, but I know. Listeria from the deli meat? Yeah. Have you not seen The Boar's Head? Everybody's dying. I don't read the news. Lauren, we're going to be the first ones to go.

Lauren's like, I may do something. I drink raw milk, so. Oh, I mean. Okay, tell us about the listeria meat wrap. Okay. It's listeria. How enticing. How appetizing.

No, I mean, okay, so the wrap starts with like a spinach wrap, turkey, lettuce. You could throw a pickle in there if you're getting crazy. A little spicy mustard. And that's kind of it. And you make this wrap after you work out all the time on TikTok. Michael, it looks so good.

It sounds good. It doesn't sound that groundbreaking, to be honest. It's not. It's pretty groundbreaking. I will say I am like, I'm so plain when it comes to like the things that I eat.

Now it's one thing if I'm going to go like make a meal for my family and stuff, I'll get more intense with it. But for me, I'm just like, I just got to get through. I don't live to like eat is my thing. I think that's how Michael is too. I think that you should try my bowl of beef. If you're scared of deli meat, I think you should switch. You should try my bowl of beef. Just do exactly what you did with the wrap, but do it in a bowl of beef.

Okay. Yeah. Like a force of nature ground beef. Yeah. Mine was tasting really gamey. I don't know why. Did you use ancestral blend force of nature? I don't think so.

Okay. That one is like, there is. There's some heart and liver in that one. There's some heart and liver, but heart and liver is so good for your hair and nails. I feel like if you just put some cheese on it and some sauce, you just get it down. Okay, I'll do that. I'm going to show you the way I look.

Hold up on the deli meat until, you know, they give us the clear, but don't try my- I'm not really like a follow the news to listeria kind of person. I feel like I'll still eat it. I will say this. If I die from eating deli meat, just know I'll be pissed off. Like, I mean, I would be livid.

It's not a good way to go out. No. You know, imagine like all the things you've done in your life and then like the headline is like, deli meat took her out. I could see Lauren Bostic dying from raw milk. That would be a turn of events.

Madison, where can everyone find you? You guys go watch all her Instagram story highlights they're so good if you die am I moving to Charleston sure what's the ratio

for guys ratio's pretty good ratio's pretty good yeah 8 to 1 8 to 1 8 to 1 I mean listen

you'd be exhausted in there it would just be like me and I would take a picture with your gravestone and be like this is Lauren my ex

you could be the fourth guy on Southern. I'll adopt an accent real quick. Do your accent. No, I can't. No, you can't do it. Come on, do your Southern accent.

You have one, you join the car all the time. I can only do it if I'm around somebody talking for a while. You just were around someone. No, no, I need like three days. He does it. I'm going to record it when he's doing it. Okay, good. Madison, where can everyone find you?

Support your pajama line. Where can they follow you on TikTok? Tell us all the things. Follow me at Madison LaCroix. What is in Madison LaCroix's bag? It's a weapon. Look at that thing. Well, this is like Mary Poppins.

You're going to be shocked when you see everything. Okay. We have Lip Liner by Lawless. Love her Lip Liner. We have a hair tie. L tie lanage is that how you say that yep yeah love that one okay an elixir you know a good little okay lumify i didn't bring any money but um phone charger just in case hide pin keeps going

yeah a lot in there little toothbrush you do got a lot in there two bobby pins because sometimes you just need to

throw up an updo and some little perfume love it that's all Madison thank you for coming on the podcast thank you for having me

thank you for doing this thank you for making the trip and you crushed your first podcast. Oh, really? Thank you. Y'all made it so comfortable. This brow peptide has changed my brows and my lashes.

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