The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Marcy Blum, World’s Top Planner Shares Secrets To Flawless Weddings, Unforgettable Parties, and Tasteful Decor

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

#789: Join us as we sit down with Marcy Blum – a world-renowned event planner, and entertaining expert, named by VOUGE & Harper's Bazaar as the Top Planner in the World. Discover behind-the-scenes stories from some of the most extravagant weddings ever, spanning A-list celebrities to the ultra-wealthy, & everyone in between! In this episode, Marcy shares her expert advice on wedding do's & don'ts, must-haves for hosting a flawless event, tips for staying realistic with your budget, & eye-opening revelations about the luxury wedding industry.   To connect with Marcy Blum click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697)   This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential   Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn’s favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes.   Visit c1p.org to donate to the Community First Project, a mission to make communities safer by ensuring the quality & integrity of our nation's law enforcement agencies.   This episode is sponsored by O Positiv   Visit opositiv.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 25% off at checkout.   This episode is sponsored by NOBULL   Exclusively for The Skinny Confidential listeners, NOBULL is offering 30% off your order. Visit nobullproject.com and use code TSC30.    This episode is sponsored by Sono Bello   Schedule your free consultation now at sonobello.com/skinny.   This episode is sponsored by Cymbiotika   Go to Cymbiotika.com/TSC or use code TSC for 20% off your subscription order + free shipping today.   This episode is sponsored by ShipSkis   Go to Shipskis.com and use the code SKINNY to get 20% off your first shipment and save yourself the hassle this ski season.   This episode is sponsored by Cotton: The Fabric of Our Lives   Cotton is The Fabric of Now. Learn more at TheFabricOfOurLives.com.   Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

You know, let's talk about regular parties for regular people. Not having a place to put your coat drives me insane. You know, do you have to go, like, throw your coat on the bed like it's grandma's house? So that's the first thing. Not having a drink when you walk in. And I don't care if you're drinking alcohol or not. Something in your hand. Hi, I'm happy to see you.

Take their coat, put it somewhere and give them something to drink. And then on top of that, you know, not everybody knows everybody. People, this isn't about you. This is about your guests. That's the point. I'm like thinking this is going to be fun. I like these people. What can I do to make them happy? Marcy Bloom. She is the creme de la creme of event planning and wedding planning. You've probably heard about her. She does some huge, huge celebrity clients, billionaire weddings. She's done every elaborate theme that you can think of. I was sat next to her at a lovely dinner party hosted by my friend Mark and Keith. And I thought, oh my gosh,

she has to come on the podcast. She has to teach us how to throw a dinner party. She has to give us some tips on wedding planning. She has to tell us what to do for a high-end event, a low-end event, how to manage client dynamics, and how to just throw a regular dinner party at the house. I had questions. I wanted specifics. I wanted details. So Marcy Bloom, she flew all the way from New York City to be on the show. I think you'll love her. Marcy, welcome. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Michael and I were having a conversation with a guest the other day about what to do if you get sat next to the boar. Right. And Mark Moulet was giving us some tips. Do you have any tips if you get sat next to the boar? Mark usually changes

his place card, but I don't recommend. That's what he did at my wedding. Well, I got 12 people. I was like, you can't do that. He's just he's maneuvering. Just move to see. Just move to see. I like that tactic. I got sat next to you at a dinner party and you were certainly not a bore. I was very excited to be seated next to you. We went to Mark and Keith, our mutual friends, dinner party. It was absolutely beautiful. He was doing prompts across the table and the tablescape was so beautiful. And then I heard that your name was Marcy Bloom and I had heard about you through everyone who has ever had a magnificent wedding. So welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm really excited to be here. Seriously.

We're excited to have you. Give us a little background about how you even started to dip your toe into events. Okay. Well, I'll try to make it as succinct as possible. I was living on a commune in 1970, as one did, after Woodstock with 16 of my friends. But we were all like 16 years old, so we were planting vegetables upside down. You know, all these New York kids moved to Vermont, planted carrots upside down. Things weren't doing very well. And when that broke apart, I had no plan for my life in the future. So I sort of went and sat in my parents' apartment. After not talking to them for So I sort of went and sat in my parents' apartment.

After not talking to them for years, I went back and sat in my parents' apartment and watched Let's Make a Deal until I felt better. I wound up going to Le Cordon Bleu in Paris. My brother was living there and they said, why don't you love to cook? My mother was a great cook and a great hostess. So I went to Le Cordon Bleu and I was thinking about this this morning. I was thinking of talking to both of you about, you know, there's not necessarily only one passion in your life. They always say, do you find your passion? Acting was my first passion. And then I didn't want to wait on tables the rest of my life, you know.

And cooking food gave me my life back, I really felt. So I was like, oh, there is something else. So I went to Le Cordon Bleu and I took all these housewife cooking classes in New York and the Culinary Institute of America started accepting women and they accepted me. And I was one of the 50 women in the first graduating class, which was hilarious. 2,000 men and us in Poughkeepsie. It was kind of wonderful. It was like being Elle McPherson. You're not going with anybody. I wanted to. Why, just to go back for a second, did you not talk to your parents when you were on the commune? Can you not talk to anyone? It was like, no, no, no.

It was our friends. It wasn't, it was, you know, all of us, it was 1969, 1970. You know, they were, they were the other. Life was crazy. We're, you know, marching against Vietnam, going to concerts. And it was just, you know, all they were the other life was crazy we're you know marching against vietnam

going to concerts and it was just you know all our parents felt like their kids were abducted what is it like to live on a commune that's so that's pretty funny i mean because we were totally unprepared we just figured we'd get out of new york you know i had graduated performing arts high school as an actress my friends had all gone to music and art. You're all New York kids. And we were like, this will be fun. So we put down five grand and bought a farm up there and had no idea what we were doing. So as you can imagine, what happened to the rest of the group? Most of us are still friends. One is a doctor. The other is a rather famous studio musician. And then some people didn't make it, know so when you graduated with with a degree in culinary arts did you apply that to restaurants or did you use it for something else

so I went to in those days which will be amazing for you to hear I applied to every really fabulous restaurant in New York and in those days you know you could say it out loud they would just say I'm so sorry you know you seem qualified, but we don't hire women. Oh, wow. And they even buy letters. Just straight up like that. Straight up like that. Now they may think it, but they're not. Yeah. So, I mean, Lutece and they're all like, well, you seem lovely. So I got a job. I was a sous chef at a golf club in Scarsdale. I worked at Maxwell's Plum. I don't know if you've ever heard of Maxwell's Plum. I was the only woman in the kitchen and I worked at all these places and I was like,

I don't really like this, but I couldn't figure out what I wanted to do. And then this lovely man who's now my ex-husband, but wasn't, he was just my boss then. He was a friend of my brother's and we had mutual friends and he was opening a bunch of restaurants and he hired me as a consultant. And so that's sort of how the tumbleweed of event planning happened. So then I was doing all the banquets in all the restaurants. We had six restaurants, big ones. So there were lots of parties and I was like, oh, this is fun and easy. Ha ha ha.

You know, as everything looks so easy in your 20s, a piece of cake. So that's people started asking me if I could do events outside of the restaurants. I was like, sure, I could do anything. So what is your first big break that you remember where you were like, holy shit, this is taking off this is major this is so funny you know do you know talk about synchronicity i got on the plane this morning from new york and i'm sitting in the first row you know one b's had to put all my stuff on top you can't they don't let you put it down can't put it so this guy gets in next to me this is really i couldn't believe this i told him this he's wearing a like a baseball cap and a big mask. Not a clue. Puts all his stuff up, sits down. About halfway through the flight here,

he takes off the cap and mask because he's reading it. And it's Kevin Bacon, who was my first big client. And I was like, hello. He goes, oh, fuck Marcy. What was Kevin Bacon doing coming to Austin? He was doing a filming. He was filming down here. There's more of that happening here now. Yeah, so I was likein he was doing a filming he's filming down here there's more of that happening here now yeah so i was like uh he's like oh i'm sorry i was like i didn't

recognize you it was so fun that was my first big break really does kevin call you does kira call you do their people call you how does it work this is 1988 okay so he had just done Footloose. He wasn't, you know, he's a star-ish. He's a kid. They were kids. Somebody introduced, I know, believe it or not. You know, Kevin used to live with Tracy Pollan. I don't know if you knew that. They were boyfriend and girlfriend for a long time. They broke up. He stayed friends with the family. And I happened to know Tracy's father. And he said, I have someone for you to work with. And that's how it happened. And then from there, you sort of become branded as the celebrity wedding planner? Or how did that work? It definitely took a while. I mean, Katie Lee and Billy Joel was 10 years after that, you know, intermittently. Slow build. So when you started,

when you were just getting into this, how did you even know how to do this? Or was it just trial and error? I didn't, but I didn't know I didn't know. I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now, right? I was like, I mean, when I think back at people who hired me,

I'd be like, oh, geez, God, those poor people. But they didn't know anything either. So now everyone knows everything. What does it take to work with Marcy Bloom and be brutally honest? Like if so, for you to take a client right now, it's like getting into Fort Knox. Oh, throw money at me. Is it really money? Is that what it is?

No, that's very kind of you to say no. I mean, we are selective. It has here. Here's the issue. It's not just the money. It's it's realistic expectations vis-a-vis the budget. So if you come to me and say, I saw LeBron and Savannah's wedding on your website and I have five hundred thousand, I was like, it's not going to happen. And don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you. And I'm always like, I couldn't afford me. That's not what we're talking about. If you're willing to do something much more manageable, I'm happy to work with you. What's the most extravagant thing that has shocked even you? Hard to shock me these days.

So what was the thing that shocked you to your core? You know what's always shocking people? Perhaps even you, very sophisticated people. Oh, yeah. The price of headliners. Oh, like for people to come perform?

A million. That doesn't surprise me. Right? It depends who it is. Much more. Really? So here, I'll tell you a story

because I never signed an NDA and we were working with J-Lo and A-Rod before they broke up. And we're going through a list of musicians and she goes what about Bruno Mars I said you just work with him and he's five don't be ridiculous I said I'm telling you million five million just to perform for the night plus rider plus ride the night you get 45 minutes you get an hour yeah holy shit and when these in the wrong business I'm gonna

start singing I always say that please don't when'm in the wrong business. I'm gonna start singing. I always say that. Please don't. When the musicians, give me a mic. I'm gonna start. Marcia, you can rep me. Tell them that I'll do it

for half the price. I'll tell them. When the musicians show up to a wedding and there's already so much pressure and the bride is stressed and da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

and the musician is then a diva, which I'm sure has happened. How do you finesse it? We always make it very clear as much as possible. First of all, I have a large team. They don't all work for me full time, but I have someone who's an entertainment person who comes on all our gigs.

And their job is to get the green room in order. So if someone really only drinks Sprite or diet Sprite or whatever, we don't mess with it. So we don't give them an excuse to be obnoxious in the first place. We're like, here we go. And here's someone who's going to handhold you and da, da, da. You would never have a headliner as, if you were sane, as the regular entertainment. No one wants to do their first dance or maybe they do, but they shouldn't to Coldplay or something. That's just dumb. You know what you want is that you want a band band and maybe a DJ.

And then you want like a 45 minutes of Chris Martin or Elton John or whomever you want, because otherwise it's all about them. It's in my opinion, not the way you want to do it. It becomes about the person that's headlining and it takes the focus off the couple. I would not the focus off me. Let's be honest. I would Coldplay. Sorry, it's my day. We just did a 60th birthday for dear client of ours and they got Elton and it was just a hundred people.

And there's such lovely people. They actually invited my husband to come up to Cape Cod to attend the concert. And that was, and that really is the crux of the whole thing. This was, they were giving a gift to their friends. They knew their friends

would get such a kick out of it. And it was really heartwarming. Amazing. What are Marcy Bloom no-nos? And get like, be very detailed when it comes to a party. What are things that you know

it's going to be a fucking nightmare if it happens? Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, let's talk about regular parties for regular people. Right? Someone who's not spending $5 million on a headliner. Yeah, but someone who did a party in their house. Not having a place to put

your coat drives me insane. You know, you have to go throw your coat on the bed like it's grandma's house. Right? She's great on a mic. Yeah, terrible. So that's the first thing not having a drink when you walk in and i don't care if you're drinking alcohol or not something in your hand hi i'm happy to see you and people like to hold something too yeah exactly they

mean an anchor that's exact give them take their coat put it somewhere and give them something to drink and then on top of that, you know, not everybody knows everybody. People, this isn't about you. This is about your guests. That's the point. Introduce people, come up with, you know, Mark is a perfect example of someone who's brilliant at that. Mark. Hello, Mark. I know you're listening to this one. He is one of the best hosts. Oh, unbelievable. Because didn't you say that you used to read blah, blah and introduce me? He's really smart. Yeah, I feel like when we met you, he made it so seamless. Like right away, we were all just getting along. He's really good at that. And that's the essence of my business. It's probably the essence of his business and certainly your business. You have to like people. You have to essentially like people until they prove otherwise.

Yeah, for sure. So I go in, I'm like thinking, this is going to be fun. I like these people. What can I do to make them happy? What are other little weird no-nos? Not having hand towels in the bathroom, not having enough toilet paper. So your guests have to like come out and ask for toilet paper mortifying right like there should be stacks everywhere right having a playlist so you're not having to run oh my god this is not working you know some like everything so your guests are not hysterically nervous if you are even yeah these are all things that are very cost-effective things very cost-effective i'm a

big proponent of place cards i think it shows that you care. I just finished Ina Garner's book and she said, she said her first dinner party, she planned this whole beautiful, huge, like five course meal. And she invited all these people who didn't know each other. But the problem was she was cooking in the kitchen. So she didn't have the time to go and finesse all of the people who didn't know each other. And it was a big mistake. And that makes total sense. If you're in the kitchen cooking, how are you supposed to host? It's hard to do both. You can't do both. And I learned that because, you know, being a, I mean, I'm not a great chef. I'm a good home cook. So I

used to do a lot of cooking and be in the kitchen the whole time. And my friends are complaining. And then I realized for like $300, I could hire two people to actually like set the table and put the oven on. And it was worth every penny. People were like, this is so much nicer. So you can actually sit with us. When you do weddings or parties, is there a number you feel becomes too big to manage or kind of like ruins the vibe? But we had a very small wedding, so we don't know. We had like 55 people. But is there like a number you like to have? I mean, for a destination wedding, which you may know are very, very popular now, I think although it's hard to get there, I think anything over 125 is really rough.

I mean, Annie and Jeff's wedding, we were talking about, it was a lovely wedding in Amalfi. It was 100 people. It was just the right amount for Positano. Their wedding was so beautiful. Annie, if you're listening, their wedding looked so beautiful on Instagram. It was stunning. And they were very much in love, and it just had the best vibe.

Yeah, good energy. Very good energy. And they let us do a love and it just had the best vibe. Yeah. Good energy. Very good energy. And they let us do a lot of fanciful things. We had fairies through the woods and we had sirens on the rocks when people came from Positano by boat. So there were sirens there singing. It was very cool. Yeah, it's thoughtful. Yeah.

She's really detail-oriented with her business, so I can imagine how she would be with her wedding. Very, very much so. And again, one of those people like yourself who's never unkind or disrespectful, so she gets the best out of everybody. What do you do when you have bridezilla? And I am sure you could write a book on it. You know, it's...

I wish it were the brides most often i always go to the groom and steam you know really really they're getting like cuckoo well here's here's too much soy milk go on maybe that's it yeah it's too much soy milk because here's what's going on often let's say it's the bride's parents often who are paying for the wedding and the grooms now feel it it is their responsibility to say oh that's too expensive so the bride's parents think that they're not marrying her for the money right so they're giving me a hard time and it's not even their money and it's what the bride wants I was like why are you torturing me it's not your money nobody cares you're not proving a point.

Just go away. And also, no one cares about your opinion. No offense. I literally did not take your opinion into account. You get to do the music list. I paid for our wedding. No, we. No, I at the time paid before we were married.

I paid you back, bitch. I sure did. You paid me back, but let's not. You know, they usually want to talk about again not to be sexist the music and if anything the wine

which is fine they can have that I won't bother them I feel like guys just shouldn't have an opinion about the wedding like just let the woman have the moment

well but you could I had an opinion about the liquor choices and the wine I think that's about it right yeah and like some of the music

that's about it I do a lot of gay weddings, you know, so you can imagine. So you have to figure out who is the person who is driving this. Did you do Keith

and Mark's wedding? I did Keith and Mark's wedding. And Mark was the go-to, right? Well, you can't do, I mean, Keith, who I love dearly, you know, I can't, yeah.

No, I, yeah. Do you feel... And we did Nate and Jeremiah's, Nate Bergus and Jeremiaheremiah's uh nate bergus and jeremiah brent's wedding so fun so do you feel like you have experienced stretch the wedding to the point where it's like what do you even do now you've done everything do you feel like it's like are you trying to just get more and more shocking? Do you have another avenue you want to explore? Like, you've checked every box when it comes to doing this.

When I started, people would say to me, well, who cares about the food? It's a wedding. And I'd be like, unimaginable, but that was what it was like. Or it was so cookie cutter. It was, you know, first dance. So I had, you know, this is my 38th year. So it was a lot it was so cookie cutter it was you know first dance so i had you know this is my 38th year so it was a lot of fun at the beginning it was like how about if we have a tarot reader that's insane but things that now are not that crazy were you know really innovative

then so it was fun a lot of fun and i just came back monday night from a six-day indian wedding in morocco wow it was fun It was fun. It was beautiful. Very celebratory. I heard Indian weddings are really fun. I have some friends that- Oh my God, this was fun. Really fun. What is the kind of work that entails on your end and your teams and how big is the team? What does that look like? And are you exhausted for a month after that? Yeah, pretty much. I had 12 of us over there. There were two leads. We have two leads who were, you know, the day-to-day, but I'm overseeing the big picture. And we had a production company there. And then we brought a designer we work with and his team

from Chicago. I mean, we had to build a welcome party at the Royal Mansour. And then we did the Haldi and then the Sangeet, which was an Indian street fair. So we had to build all these sets. And it was a lot. It was a lot. It was a lot of fun. I mean, after the fact, it's fun. What is the most extravagant one that you've done out of everything? Well, I have a very concrete NDA for it.

But it was upstate New York. And we were there for three months. We built all these tents. And it was really pretty amazing. We put in real bathrooms and an inlaid floor. And it was fabulous. What do you do with it after? Bye-bye.

We try to recycle, of course. You know, I have, listen, I have a tree in my, I have a little townhouse in Brooklyn. I have a tree in our garden that is from Nate and Jeremiah's wedding that was on the aisle and now it's like eight feet tall. So try to do that. What are some cool touches like that that you've seen people do for events or weddings that are maybe approachable to anyone? I think it's really all about people feeling that you really want them there. Yeah. I went to a fundraiser yesterday at the Plaza. And a dear friend of mine for 30 years, she's the CEO of the catering company in the Plaza.

And I sat down at this very fancy table with all these very fancy people. And there was a lipstick kiss on my place card. And I knew that she was the only person in this whole corporate room who would have done that. It made me cry. So I think it's things like that, you know, a note or a photo or something under the place card. Do you remember when you and I did this? They just want to feel that you want them there personally. When it comes to planning weddings for just, you know, anyone that wants to, what are some things you would caution people against or some things you would tell them to stay away from that are just typical in weddings that are turned out to be nightmares? I think I would spend much more money if my budget on staff than I would on flowers.

You know, you could have the most beautiful room in the world. And if you walk in and it's, you know, nothing, there's a line at the bar where the food is cold or you're a vegetarian, no one remembered. I always say it's like bringing, you know, Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie home and they just lie there. It's just like one note. would be disappointing right yeah people go crazy with the flowers and they're expensive i remember looking at that's one thing i remember looking at back when we got married i'm like jesus christ these flowers are expensive listen if you have

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For sure. With how you have to keep having the same conversation with the same people. I agree with you. Well, the reason we kept ours so small for destination is I did really feel bad about making people travel. We just went to Cabo, which was like two hours. Right. But you want to give them a bit of a vacation.

Yeah. So like you want to do a lot of that stuff. But I think if you're going to have a bunch of people or like extended family or kind of like acquaintances, you better have that thing dialed in because people are taking a lot of their time and money. Absolutely. And I like to give people, let's say, you know, four different excursions that the group could take rather than it's not sleepaway camp.

Everyone doesn't have to get on the bus together. You know, these are like adults. So then there's nothing to talk about. At least if people are going to four different places, you have something to say over dinner. Oh, we went to the caves or we went to a wine tasting or whatever. Some conversation that rather than,

you know, isn't the bride pretty? What do you do when someone gets too drunk? Is there like a Marcy Bloom security situation? We just get rid of them. Just throw them out the back. Take them out down the excursion, throw them in the port-a-potty. It depends how savvy they are. Usually we just start pouring water but some of them notice.

So what do you do if there's like a... Get them back to their room, I mean, destination, or just like take them to another room. You had somebody... Where the hell was this? Oh, they broke the glass at a hotel. They were like,

they pounded on the glass and they broke it. And, you know, we had to take footage. Like a door. Like a solid glass pane. Oh, geez. Yeah.

Which is expensive. You know, it's probably like 40, 50 grand, you know, to take photos. Oh, God. Send the bill to the room the next day.

That's not possible. Here's the photo. That's not fun. That's not fun. That's not fun for anyone. That's horrible. And usually it's usually it's the kids because they've never seen an open bar before where it's free. So the people who are just like, oh, you mean we can have all the tequila we want? Right, right.

So you have to say that there will be tequila tomorrow. What are your tips on how to do a tablescape? Mark's tablescape that he had when we were over. I was just so distracted by the details. I just love all that. Me too. And he did a really good job with that. What are some things

how to put together? Like I'm doing like Christmas Eve at my house. Oh, how many people? I'm only doing seven and I got a chef, but i want the table to be super instagrammy like i want like the runner and all the stuff what what can i buy i would do something that wouldn't ordinarily be on a table okay like christmas ornaments or um you know things like that that you might hang on a tree, even lights.

You know, you can drape the twinkle lights down the center of the table and disguise the wire. So it does, you know, maybe it'll be reminiscent of a tree down the table, you know, rather than flowers or holly. Is there any china that we should invest in or like linens that you like? Mark was sending me these hand-blown glass, like hand-blown cups by this artist that has like pinks and purples and stuff. Is there any like things that you love? I mean, I brought back from this wedding that we were talking about. I brought back 250 place settings from Puglia. This pottery was so gorgeous. I'll send you some sites. There's a whole bunch of especially

if it's seven or ten people anything's affordable that's what I'm thinking like I want to start building this is weird and you'll relate to this and so will mark but I don't know I want to start building my collection of like tablescapes to be able to put together with different tones I'm really into like laying a table good oh I can't wait I'll come over and help you I love that that's going to be my next job all right we'll come over and help you i love that that's going to be my next job all right we'll come to like in-house tablescaping you think that um you could go from these mass productions to just tablescapes oh i guess in a second there's something charming about that because she's worked with so many different personalities and and characters and

actors i bet that's almost therapeutic let me ask you this question so much the clientele that you have many of them celebrity but some of them just ultra high net worth yes mostly not people don't even hear about or know about we know some of these individuals do you get in a situation with some of your clientele where they start to try to one-up the other client like they see you do do something like, oh, I can do better than that. It's like almost like a... Interestingly enough, although, you know, I'm a born and raised New Yorker

and I don't get... My clientele are like Martians. I mean, if you put them all in a room together, they wouldn't know each other, which is kind of great. Or there are people like our mutual friend who's so wealthy, he really couldn't care less what anybody thinks. Yeah, he doesn't give a shit. so wealthy, he really couldn't care less what anybody thinks. If anything, he wants to antagonize them.

Like, I'm going to serve Miller High Life just to annoy people, right? Did he do that? No, but I could see him doing it. Just because you think I'm going to serve in a DP, right? So there's no competition going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. But there is a competition. We have a competition with ourselves and how to make each one different. A lot of people in my business have much larger staffs or much bigger warehouses.

They have to make money. They have to recycle stuff. We start from scratch every time. Like what if someone comes to you and says, hey, I saw so and so do this. I want to do the same thing. Are you like, I don't want to do that? Yeah. I mean, I'll say I understand what you like about it. I want to take elements of it,

but we don't copy people's work. I mean, we plagiarize a little. I would be lying if I said, I look at good ideas all the time, but I don't want to do, it's not interesting for me. How do you, this is just like, maybe this is like a niche question that won't be applicable to a lot of people, but how do you deal with a lot of the hotel properties if you're going to go use a hotel and how do you manage? Because I imagine our mutual friend that we're talking about, he shut down an entire hotel during a very high season. Right.

I couldn't even go. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. But I imagine that is a big conversation with the property and i just was curious for sure and you have to make deals and you have to you also have to be i mean morocco perfect example they're not it's not easy and it's all men and my team is almost all women so and we took we took them all out for dinner the night after the wedding. And they were so complimentary.

And they all wrote me and said, please come back because we bend over backwards to be respectful and nice. And to not say, you don't know what you're doing. This is how we like to do it. It's real diplomacy. But the same thing if we're working in the States. Now, of course, some of the hotels are union. In the banquet department, there's nothing you can do about it. I mean, they'll just like tough.

If someone's planning a wedding right now and they're listening, how do you conceptualize it? Like, what are the first steps that you have someone take? Are they going on Pinterest? Are you screenshotting on Instagram? What does it look like? Did they have to have their budget first? What is the whole like Marcy Bloom list? You want to come up with the guest list first.

You'd be amazed how many people say we're going to have 300 people. I said, are you sure? Do you know that? Why don't the two of you take a weekend, sit down and write your guest list and then come back? It's only 225, which is a huge difference. Once you have that, what do you want to spend? More or less, more or less.

It's always going to go over but what do what is the ballpark and then what month and where in the world what's the best month to get married you know well not there's nothing anymore i mean the best month is probably february because no one's doing it but september and september is more popular than june what's the worst month where Where are you living? You know, we did a wedding in August for Andrea Guadalla, you know, for the Warriors. We did their wedding in Cabo in August

because that was the only time he wasn't playing. I mean, people were walking down the aisle. I was like, we're going to lose people. I mean, they were just, you know, it was really hot. After they have the guest list, then what? We look at things that you, if you want a communal experience with a lot of people, that's why they're doing a destination wedding. So if you go to a place like Positano, you're not going to get everybody in one hotel.

So if that's what you're looking for, let's look at places that where you can put all the guests in one hotel or two hotels near each other. And then where else can you do events other than the one night? You know, you have a welcome dinner, you have a rehearsal dinner, you probably have a Sunday brunch or a next day brunch. Are there places around that you could do that? Or are you stuck in one resort for four days, which is kind of lethal in my opinion. And then what are the other things they need to do? Well, then they have to go on a site visit and with a list of things, you know,

what's the food like? How do you, people who haven't done this before, which are most people, don't understand the difference between, let's say, charging on consumption or giving a flat fee. I don't understand the difference. What does that mean?

Charging on consumption is like when you, whatever you eat, whatever you drink, they're going to bill you after. If you do a flat fee. I don't understand the difference. What does that mean? Charging on consumption is like whatever you eat, whatever you drink, they're going to bill you after. If you do a flat fee, you're going to pay for a lot of it up front. That's better. It depends.

Are your friends drinkers? If they're drinkers, you would better do a flat fee. It's like, are they all you can eat? We did a flat fee for drink for ours and I told them, I told these people,

I went down, I said, listen, we got some drinkers coming down here. And they're like, oh yeah, we'll be fine. We do this all the time. I got nailed after for an

overage, overage. My friends drank so much that I'm surprised they even walked out of the hotel. Yeah. So that's it. And you have to, you know, and if, let's say you have a wine cellar or you like a certain champagne, they can't get it. Can you bring in a couple of cases and they'll just charge you a small corkage or look the other way because you're spending so much there. You want to get all these things done before you sign the contract. People come to me with a signed contract. I was like, I can't negotiate. It's too late. Why would they negotiate? You've already agreed to do it. What do you do when you have a couple that gets married? They have a huge extravagant wedding. They've paid a bunch and then they get hit with the bill after and they're pissed well it it's definitely happened i'm sure it has it's definitely happened i mean we try to keep them educated along the way right so you try to tell them like this is you know we said it was

going to be a million but that was before you said you wanted to port Cristal. So the Cristal is not included in that million, but you know, people have convenient amnesia. So they don't remember. Well, I thought, you know, I always say it's like, if I walk into Chanel and I say, I want to, I want to spend $8,000 on a jacket. I want, you know, and then I walk around and I say, I also, I want two handbags and a pair of shoes and another skirt and it comes to checkout and it's 40 grand. And if I said, but I said, I wanted to spend 8,000. Yeah. Right. Obviously that doesn't work. So another line of questioning for somebody that wants to get into your line of work, like if you looking back on your career now and all that you've accomplished and done,

if a young person is saying, I want to do what Marcy's done, where would you tell that person to start nowadays? I would tell them to either, you know, go to cooking culinary school or design school or even lighting school or something that brings something to the table that gives you a niche, that you're the specialist. I mean, because for me,

what started it was food and beverage. So you wouldn't start with the broad, I can do everything. No. And hospitality. And you just have to be a hospitality student. And, you know, most of, a lot of the kids who come in the planets,

as I call them, are like, you know, I know how to make pretty things. I was like, nobody cares, you know, because nobody cares. That's like the least of it. And if you can make pretty things for Instagram, it doesn't mean you can make 30 pretty tables for 300 people.

I also think it requires an effortlessness to be presented, meaning a good event is so gnarly and strategic and planned, but it looks effortless from the outside. One of my clients calls it sprezzatura. Have you ever heard that? I'm just reading about that in Jackie Kennedy's book. Really? Wow, you read a lot, don't you? That, wait, explain what that is again.

I just highlighted it. It is, this client said it to me 10 years ago and I've used it ever since. There was a lot of work behind the scenes, but it looks absolutely insouciant. Like it just looks effortless. Like everything just fell on the table like that perfectly that's exactly what I if I was looking through my own perspective

of what makes a great event it's all natural and it's supposed to be this way I think that's everything though it's kind of like when I wake up in the morning and you turn over and you're like wow she's so naturally beautiful and you just can't believe it. Like that's the energy of a party.

Who is it? Charlotte Tilbury. So she never takes her makeup off at night because she wants her husband to see in the morning when she wakes up that she looks like that. I definitely take my makeup off. I'm sorry about that for you. Tell us about the celebrity weddings that you can talk about. Give us the ones that some are your favorite. I know there's a lot of NDAs going on, but which ones can you tell us about? How many NDA some are your favorite i know there's a lot of ndas

going on but which ones can you tell us about ndas you got at this point probably a lot well now you know the bar mitzvah boy sends you an nda it was like nobody cares i mean lebron and savannah's wedding was great fun because of all the guys where they had, they won that year. So everyone was really, really in a great, great, great mood. And they're all friends. So, or they were all friends. This is now 11 years ago. So they did like a whole soul train line.

And it was really fun to watch. And I got such a big kick out of it. And then my team knew who everybody was. I had no idea. I was like, who are those really tall people? but let me think who else was a lot of fun the love wedding was beautiful the love wedding was was fun and adele was there and rich paul who she's now engaged to which i'm working on getting that wedding just in case anyone's listening um shameless shameless i'm sure yeah so that was fun i mean mario carbone was there was a lot of food people there and they're all you know all

the new yorkers that was really really fun we've done a great 60th birthday party for someone in amalfi and that was when we do parties that are small enough, like 50 people or something to get hired, we can actually act as a full service concierge, like get people's shoe sizes and what they, you know, what they like to eat. So but again, without making it a big we don't send a questionnaire, you know, we're sort of like undercover agents. So when they get there, like, how do they know i only drink diet dr pepper or everything it's like that and that is a real fun i'm gonna put this out into the ether i'd like a surprise party that i'm involved in planning what that's not fun well you won't know when or where exactly when or where yeah i will help plan the details with marcy and you can coordinate it so save up make us make a savings account at Wells Fargo.

What's the occasion? I would not do it at Wells Fargo. Okay. What's the occasion? So funny. The occasion is a birthday that I have in the future that you work with Marcy that I micromanage. Her 70th. No, no, no.

Not my 70th. You have to wheel me in. No. I don't want to be on one of those i could be on my third husband by then let's focus on today i would like a surprise party planned and i don't know when it's gonna be and i walk in i'll be genuinely surprised okay and you can work on that we should just do a party just to do a party just do a party yeah i'll come and do the tablescapes it'll be great great fun. I'd like a big party.

I feel like I deserve it. I've known him since I was 12. How long have you been together? So long. We've been together since I was officially got back to 20 years old. I'm almost 38, so that's 18 years.

That's unbelievable. We knew each other since we were 12 since we were 12 I need a party I need a Marcy Bloom party before I die but I also want to be a part of planning it with her

no I get it you know what I mean but I like to I think if you do too big what I think then it's like it's hard to talk to people then no I don't want too big

I don't want too big I just want just big enough yeah just big enough I think 50 that's just what I was thinking. 50, 60 people is perfect. Yeah.

Save it on up. Put a little Bitcoin in the... Bitcoin. You weren't at Mark and Keith's wedding. No. I don't think you were friendly. We didn't know that. Well, anyway, that was a surprise wedding, you know, so that was...

You know, we only met Mark when... Hold on. How was it a surprise wedding? Everyone thought it was Keith's 50th, which it was, Hold on, how was it a surprise? Everyone thought it was Keith's 50th, which it was, but... And where was it held? At the Lobster Club in New York. It was part of the grill on the pool, you know.

So I had to put a platform in the middle of the room and we put flowers on it. And then when it was time, we just moved the flowers and it was, our consuelos was the officiant. So he just called them up and people were like, what's going on? So cute.

That's cool. I like that. It was cool. People were really happy. Out of all the weddings that you've planned, what has been your absolute favorite by far? And it could be something small or an event. Well, this wedding that I was talking about earlier, and I would have to say there really are, you know, it's like your kids, which I don't have any, but I imagine if I did, you know, you love things about each of them.

There's definitely been some I didn't love at all. And if I met the people, I'd cross the street, but few and far between. Tell us how you really feel. Few and far between. And it's been many years. As I get older, people seem to be so much more respectful. I don't know if they're worried I'm going'm gonna like keel over or something but they're much kinder to me than they were when i started so this wedding i was talking about we had uh francis melman do you know who that is so he came and he built barbecues all over this property it was a huge property then we had lcd soundhouse was the band cool and we had a late a late night, late night, late night, all different. And you move from different tents

to different experiences. So once you got, you know, we had a seated dinner and I built an open kitchen in the tent, which I've never been able to. So you could watch

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What's your favorite? I love Amalfi. It's gotten so crowded. You know, you can't. We did a nice wedding in Greece over the summer. I really love Montenegro, believe it or not. Montenegro's coming up. Yeah.

I mean, it's been up. But we really did a fabulous wedding there at the Sveti Stefan before it closed down the first time. And that was fun because we had a James Bond-themed rehearsal dinner because the groom's a good friend and crazy. Has any wedding ever broke up before they get married? Only one. Only one. And then when you look back on all the weddings you've done, are people divorced or are they still together? No, my stats are really good. That's what I said to Kevin today. I was like, you tell Kira, please, thank you so much because I still have you on the website.

You are my poster children for a good wedding. You're going to remove them off the site if they break up? Well, it depends. Like someone, you know, if people are remarried, you can't have like Salman and Padma. For example, I did Salman Rushdie and Padma Lakshmi's wedding. I can't have them on the website. That would be a big wedding, I would think. It was quite something. And he still had the fatwa against him, you know, the Muslim decree that they were like, they should kill him if they saw him. When it's all said and done after all of these extravagant weddings and celebrity weddings

that you've done, for the average person that just wants to have a great wedding ceremony, like what do you think needs to be like, what are the things they need to hit and like, they need to focus on. So, you know, I got married last year. That's where Mark and Keith went.

So I've been with my partner for 22 years and we just, and he's 20 years younger than I am. So I, so I thought I should marry him before. Right. And I care. What was very important was the music, the ceremony music.

I wanted to walk down to Miley Cyrus. She used to be young. Really? That's funny. So my friends in the music business, I said, just make a tape for me so we can play it with that. Because there were only 14 of us, and I definitely did not want to go into wedding hell. And as a surprise to me, they flew down two singers. So when I walked down, I thought Miley was there.

I was like, what? She sounded just like her. So things like the little surprises that you can do obviously people remember people remember a lot or if you're making a toast and you don't just say thanks for everybody coming from all over the world you know my friends who you know i went to public school with came from london things that people are they just want to feel special it sounds to me that you've you've sifted through what really works to refine your own wedding meaning like it sounds to me that the thing that I'm hearing across the board is there's you like a lot of personalization and intimacy that's what I'm I'm noticing out of all the things you've done.

That seems to be what you think is important. I mean, my mother was a great hostess. You know, we lived in the Bronx, in Riverdale in the Bronx, and we had, you know, nice apartment, middle class, and she was a teacher. But if there were four people, four uncles coming, all drank different scotches, she would have four different scotches and that was the way i was raised like it's about the guests personalizing it personalized so to this day if i'm in a room with 200 wedding guests i'll be like excuse me that guy needs a drink over there people like what is wrong with you because i came up in the restaurant business i came up you know if you saw martha stewart's netflix documentary she came out of catering we're all made from the same cloth.

I can't do what she does, but I'm just saying that innate, what's going on? What's the timing? Is the cake out yet? Are people, is it too much time between courses? Just the flow. Yeah, the hospitality part of it is, I would imagine, the most important. Most important. I know the design and everybody gets stuck in that, but when you think about great events,

it's like, how were you served? How were you treated? How did it feel? What was the vibe? How do you feel there's a lot more people that are asking their friends to officiate weddings? I had to officiate a wedding. And originally when I went into it, I was like, oh, this will be easy.

And then I started thinking, I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, this is like the most important part of this woman's, one of the most important. And I was like, inner family is going to be there. And then I have my dodo friend and it's important to him, but I can't like just go off. I have to like actually be thoughtful. No, it's a big honor. I mean, I did it twice for clients in the past. Do you like when people do it or do you say it? I find it extremely intimidating, especially since I'm supposed to be getting the dining room ready. But I had an Indonesian client in Napa who they needed me.

But these clients, we just did this. Oh, I think you know them, maybe. Yes. I do? In Oregon. This big wedding we did in Oregon. I think perhaps. Maybe.

No. Anyway, we did a 5,000 acres. They're not from Oregon. They just did it in Oregon? He spent summers there they're from malibu okay i probably yeah anyway point was they asked me to do it they said well you know us so well so you're absolutely right you have to go on a forensics hunt for like what's important you just just you don't want to get up there and just tell stupid jokes

or be like isn't this a beautiful term so it turned out these people he's 40 he becomes self-made very very wealthy and when he was a kid he used to spend summers at his grandfather's house on this property and through a series of misfortunes the grandfather went bankrupt and then they had to get rid of the farm and he said as a 13 year old it was like a movie moment i'm gonna get rich and buy it back and not only did he of the farm. And he said, as a 13 year old, it was like a movie moment. I'm going to get rich and buy it back. And not only did he buy the farm back, he bought the other 6,000 acres around it. And that's where on that place, that's where we had the ceremony. So that was easy for me. I was like, I'm just going to talk about that. Like there won't be a dry eye in the house. And then I can be totally incoherent after that, which I pretty much was. So do you like when people ask

people to do it and do you think they should do it? Do you think they should shy away unless they're certain? I think if people are going to write it and do you think they should do it? Do you think they should shy away unless they're certain? forever. But if you're not going to write your own vows and you want this person to sort of be a vessel for what you want to say, but you're too shy or, you know, stage shy, that's a good idea. Do you think that everyone should get married? Ah, oh boy. You know, I was married before. I was very worried about, I think everyone should have a wedding. Whether they get married or not. That's actually like honestly a good tip.

Have a wedding. Have a wedding. You don't have to. I mean, I have two clients that I am convinced they never actually did it legally. And does anyone really care? I mean, it's kind of like Goldie and Kirk. Right. Kurt.

They're like, they're cool. Yeah, it's kind of like Goldie and Kirk. Right. Kurt. They're like, they're forever. Yeah, it's cool. And it doesn't make, as you know, if someone wants to leave, that doesn't stop you. And it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't make a difference. Right. And, but as I said, we were together 22 years and I was, had a big birthday and I was like, what do I want to do for my birthday? I know we'll get married. That's fun.

Yeah. What is the biggest changes that you're seeing in the evolution of planning and weddings? Meaning like, are you seeing things that are jumping the shark? Is it too much for a two-year-old to have an $80,000 birthday? What are things that you're... Spend to you higher. Yeah. I'm sorry.

I was just like, sign here. Yeah. What are the things that you think are, it's gauche. I think people, you know, I have couples who go to sleep at 10 o'clock every night and yet they're spending a fortune on an after party. I was like, why are you doing that? You don't want an after party. Someone told you somewhere you have to have an after party and you couldn't care less. Don't do that.

Right. That's just dumb. Or a choreographed dance set when, you know, they don't like dancing. They don't like being in front of people. They just, you know, my favorite story about that was that J.J. Philbin and Michael Schur, you know, J.J. Philbin is Regis's daughter and Michael Schur wrote The Office and they met on SNL. They were both writers on SNL and neither one of them could

dance many years ago, but they're both comedians. So we walked into the Pierre Hotel and for the first dance, the lights went down and started playing Duran Duran, you know, Hungry Like a Wolf, which is a fabulous first dance for a wedding. And we had this couple dressed in a wedding gown and a tuxedo and they'll come out and the lights are very dim. And he's throwing her all over the place, like between his legs and they're doing pirouettes. And everyone in the room is like, what is going on? The lights come up and they go, well, sorry, that wasn't us. And then they come out and do their first dance. It was hysterical. That's very true to their personality. I like that because it feels personalized. It was hilarious. I think that's cute true to their personality it was wonderful i like that because it feels personal it was hilarious i think that's cute it was cute do you think that there should be drama

at every single wedding no why i like a little drama well you have a good drama i caused a little bit of this couple scenes you know why everyone who talks about my wedding now is like remember when you threw the banana at me and it like like there's all kinds of it's a big story but they remember the funny stories you know what they remember the trauma the trauma the drama i mean i listen i'm like i'm a drama queen so i like there's always you know uh when they move yeah but just you know just a smidge a smidge a smidge of drama but again to back what you asked me, I think people, you know, this whole personalization thing, you don't have to name, you know, 40 tables after the places that, you know, you had dinner together and things like that. It just confuses people.

They need to find a table number. You know, everyone's like, oh, you know, Murray's Cheese Shop, where is my table? Like, you know, it's people are doing things because they feel, you know, it's incumbent upon them to do something so special, so unusual. Just make it a lovely, that's unusual enough to have a lovely evening where you're not bored stiff. And my biggest thing is we get people up after the main course and that, you know, we usually don't do dancing during courses in between because I don't like it. And it's usually bad for the food and bad for the music. Straight through three courses, do all the toasts, two courses, an hour and 20 minutes, an hour and 30 max. And then it's a party. Before you go, will you share a couple of resources that you like for, let's say, like your favorite wedding dresses?

Maybe you could do high and low. Your favorite wedding cakes, your favorite. I don't know. Any any little like Marcy Bloom secrets? We just use the buttered end in L.A. I don't know if you're there. It was so delicious that I took all the samples with me that I was going to toss afterwards when I guess I had to go to the Parker in Palm Springs and I ate the whole thing. So it must be really good if you're saying you've tried so many different wedding cakes.

So good. And usually I can turn away from wedding cakes. And it was that good? Delicious. Okay. What about dresses? I like Daniel Frankel a lot. Have you seen her things? She's doing some beautiful, beautiful things. She's sort of new-ish on the scene, but a lot of people are. I also like Vivian Westwood does some beautiful wedding dresses. And there are some great stories. Mark Ingram in New York has the gamut of everybody's dresses, the really good ones. He has Ray Macra and Oscar, I think think and everybody I forgot to ask you one of the most important questions what can we not do to outdo the bride like are we not allowed to wear cream what are the rules around gay weddings I always wear cream because I have a couple of cream dresses I'm like they don't care they don't care yeah that's fine right so what can you not do like you don't want to wear

your tits out no you don't want it yes your tits out. No, you don't want it. Yes. Well, I don't have much, but that's my birthday present for my person this year. But if I did, I wouldn't wear them out at the wedding. You don't want to wear a big ostentatious hat or something that calls attention. I mean, there was this girl yesterday, this fundraiser who was wearing like a full on red velvet jumpsuit in the middle of this. It was absurd. You don't want to wear anything that calls attention to you um i mean you want to look beautiful and sexy and and particularly if you're in the wedding party you know these poor women sometimes they make them wear these horrendous things which is

so mean you know what i didn't do bridesmaids and he didn't do groomsmen because it's like why over complicate exactly and especially unless you're 18, nobody cares. And this is ridiculous. And all the girls are always fighting. And then the worst, much worse than the brides. The brides, because it's not their day, really want to get a piece of it. It felt awkward to me because I'm like, I got to put these people in order of importance to me. No, exactly. And it felt strange to like.

No, it's. Yeah. Are we going to be expecting a book from you? I think you need to write a book i'm considering it tell me what give me okay towards the end yes when you're like i got like i'm done you're done at the end no i mean like towards the real end do an entertaining martha you break all you break all the ndas and you release and just release the book that's the that's the juicy do it as like you could just call the book wedding planner and it could just be anonymous and you could use fake like there's this guy the book's called

waiter oh yes it's such a good book good and he just writes all the shit but you don't know who it's by it's a good idea do what to call it wedding planner and or but we also would like a book that's like entertaining for weddings and you give us all your secrets okay we'll do that too fine okay let's do it and a show so i have to go because i have to start writing no i'm teasing i was like and a tv show anything else you're going to my fairy god i mean you're great on a mic i was not kidding i don't know how you haven't had a tv show this because you see all these kind of different shows around these kind of things no you know there was an article in the atlantic my girlfriend wrote six months ago

in The Atlantic, which was very funny because she used to be a wedding planner. Now she's a bestselling author. And the first, the opening sentence was, on Sunday, wedding planners pray, not because they're particularly religious, but they're waiting to hear the complaints from the night before. Is that true? Is there always complaints? Well complaints well no sometimes you get nice girls but there's usually my grandmother you know left her flask that you know she swam from germany with and we can't you know i'm sure it's the most important thing that's ever happened even though the wedding was fabulous but you can't find that flask you know things like that it's it's like a pepper and a yeah so they're trying to do a tv show around that article, which is possible.

We'll see. You would be great. Marcy, where can everyone DM you, ask you questions, book with you? Please DM me. I answer all my DMs. It's M-A-R-C-Y-B-L-U-M

on Instagram. And where can they look at all your clients and your website and everything? Marcybloom.com. Isn't that clever? It's so clever.

Mark, I would love another dinner party and I would love to be invited for the pre-party so I can see how you set up the tablescape with Marci. I'm going to send you a bunch of things. Please. Oh, no, it's so exciting. China and them. Fantastic. Yeah. I want to know what's worth investing in. I agree. Because I have a pantry now that we just. All right. Next step, Marci. We're going to plan a party okay we'll figure out the occasion okay lauren will be participating but also surprised don't worry i can do both i feel like it's gonna be fun i can tell you can do something fun

see that he loves you you did not thank you marcy you're the best thank you thank you so much