The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Mark Consuelos: Built To Win - Success, Love, & Discipline You Can Apply To Your Own Life

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

#885: Join us as we sit down with Mark Consuelos – actor & TV host, best known for his role on All My Children & as co-host of Live with Kelly & Mark alongside his wife, Kelly Ripa. In this episode, Mark gets real about what success means to him, how he & Kelly have built a strong 30-year marriage, & what it’s really like raising a family while working day-to-day in the entertainment industry. He reflects on his early soap days, the relentless discipline that shaped his career, & how health, fitness, & family guide everything he does. We also dive into his leap in the co-ownership of Campobasso FC – an Italian soccer team, how he prepares for live TV, & the routines that keep him performing at his peak, on & off-screen!   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Mark Consuelos click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential  Optimize your daily beauty routine. Shop The Skinny Confidential Brow Peptide and subscribe today at http://bit.ly/TSCBrowPeptide.   This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to http://armra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 30% off your first subscription order.   This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Give online therapy a try at http://betterhelp.com/SKINNY and get on your way to being your best self.   This episode is sponsored by Squarespace Go to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, http://squarespace.com/SKINNY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.   This episode is sponsored by DailyLook For 50% off your order, head to http://DailyLook.com and use code SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Coterie Head to http://coterie.com and use code SKINNY20 at checkout for 20% off your first order at coterie.com.   This episode is sponsored by Momentous Check out The Women’s Three™ at http://livemomentous.com and use code SKINNY for up to 35% off your first order. That’s SKINNY at http://livemomentous.com.   This episode is sponsored by Boulevard Visit join http://BLVD.com to learn more about Boulevard and book a demo to see if it’s right for your business. For a limited time, Boulevard is offering new customers 20% off your first year subscription.   Produced by Dear Media

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So we have cards and cards and cards and notes and notes because you've done a lot. And I think the theme of what we want to drill into with you is it seems like you're a high performer in every area. And I'd like to know just to start what success means to you, not just success in a business setting, but success in life. Oh, gosh. For me, success in life, I'll give you a few scenarios. For me, it's sitting at a table with my three kids and my wife where we have a great conversation and we have a lot of laughs. And there are no arguments. if there are arguments they're just kind of easily navigated and then you know maybe watch something

on TV and go to bed that to me is success at the stage of my life so it's simple it's super simple it's not super complex it's it's i think that's what's cool about you is you would think you'd have this huge answer and it's very simple i think that's if i were to choose one thing i could be successful at that would be what i described some my family my familial relationships would probably be the most important thing for me. Have you always known that you wanted to be a family man? No. Did your wife like, quick no?

No. No. We, we often, we got, we eloped. It's pretty famously eloped. And we told no one for a month. But if you would have asked me a week before I got married, I would, and said, when do you think you're going to get married? And I'm like, I don't know, maybe never or 10 years or 15 years from now.

And I was 25 years old. So it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, idea hit me that it was time to do this with this with this person you know it's kind of a it's kind of a funny story we broke up the week before I broke up with her because I was dumb and it was the most agonizing week of my life and I just knew that I never wanted to feel like that I've never felt like that in my life what did she do to you during that week well we she didn't return any of my calls yeah and then we were meant to do a bit of PR together. We were both on a soap. And ironically, we were both going to be presenting

a winner. It was queen for the day. It was this show, it was this segment they did on live with Regis and Kathy Lee. Okay. And they, her, her dream was to have her favorite soap stars roll out this sofa, this, she wanted a like lazy boy sofa. And so we rolled that, we were meant to roll that out and surprise her. And we both tried to get out of it. I called the PR person. I'm like, I can't. And she tried to get out of it as well.

Because of seeing each other? Of seeing each other. And so we, we, we, we, we get there that day. And you asked me, what did she do? She looked amazing. She was, I can still see this little, like, Chanel, beautiful jacket, mid, whatever that's called, with a kerchief. I'm like, she's French all of a sudden.

And she looked as, she always looks amazing, it looks amazing. But I was, I was like, oh man, she looks so good. Boy, did I screw up. And so we do the segment. We barely speak to each other. I'm trying to speak to her. We both smoked cigarettes back then. And so she went out to for a smoke break.

I said, do you mind if I come out with you? She's like, if you want. And so that happened. And then after the segment was done, she lived on the west side. I followed her and begged her just to take a walk with me through Central Park. And she really didn't want to, but I was convincing and so she did. And then we ended up back at my place. I lived downtown and I asked her to marry me.

Like after the walk that same day? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And she said, ask me when you're serious. And I said, I am dead serious. I said, we have a day off work tomorrow. Let's fly to Vegas and get married.

A hot tip for girls, what I'm hearing, is that if they break up with you, you need to cold turkey, completely ignore them, don't pick up their calls, don't text back, do literally nothing. And then when you see them, make sure you look so smoking hot and ignore them. It's like being aloof. It's that easy. We have a kind of a similar story as that. I used to do things like that to him.

So I totally get her strategy and it works. Yeah, but our gap is like maybe like 15 years. That was the gap. Oh, you know we're kids. I had to wait around for 15 years. Oh, you had, you played a lot of denials for the walks in the park. But you played the long game. Yeah, I did play the long game.

I don't think people realize how much work goes in to the soap area. Yeah. Like, I feel like it's not talked about. From what I've heard off air, it is a lot of work. It is. What was that like when you first started and how much work did that entail? Like, pull the veil off for the audience. That was my first job.

It came up to New York on that audition. got it. And so I had a bag that had closed for three days and I just stayed and had all my stuff shipped up. So I really had no context for what other work was like compared to other shows or, you know, doing a play or that's a lot of work as well or other one hours or sitcom. So this is my first entree into the business. You do a one hour show a day where typically if you watch a one our show on primetime, that takes eight days, ten days to shoot. We shoot that in one day. So that's at least 60 pages of dialogue. You're in, depending on how heavier story is, you're probably in a third of that dialogue, so 20 pages. And sometimes they would pack other

parts of other shows in that. So I think on the biggest day, I had maybe 30 plus pages of dialogue in one day, maybe more. And then you do it again the next day. I imagine in a strange way, that's probably great prep work, though, for other things as you go because you're just kind of thrown in the fire right away. Yeah, you may not be the best actor, but you definitely learn how to memorize lines. And that was big for me and learning blocking. Because if you screw up, you have to start from the beginning.

It's not like other shows where they just clip it and move on. You have to start from the beginning and do the whole scene again. When you're starting out in that, did you know that you were were setting the foundation for your career and how you sort of did anything is how you did everything? You know, as a 23-year-old kid from Tampa, I didn't know much. I just knew that, you know, my plan was to move up to New York after college and study theater or acting or get in, you know, join a studio and study and like wait tables at night.

And I kind of bypassed that whole part of my story. And so I do know this that on soaps, you know, when they hand you, you go pick up your wardrobe from the wardrobe room and you, you know, and then at the end of the day, you hang it up and you bring it back to the wardrobe room. So a lot of the things that I still, I don't go to the wardrobe trailer on shows that I'm on now, but I do still hang up and fold and put my shoes and my socks. So yeah, I think some of the training that I got as a young, man on that show is still,

that work ethic is still, is definitely still in me. I was gonna ask you. That's great husband training. Yeah. Where do you think your work ethic comes from? Have you always had it or is it developed over time? My folks, definitely my folks. Two immigrants, definitely very strong immigrant mentality.

School, you know, bees maybe were okay. If you got a C, there was, it was not okay. Your family would have disown me. Yeah, yeah. Like it was, you know, it was, you know, You know, so doing well in school, if I did a sport, I had to do really, really well, you know, just kind of always pushing to be better than where we were at at the current moment. So that I think it definitely came from my, from my mother and my father.

How did you pivot out of soaps? I did some theater while I was doing a soap, which was great. I somehow negotiated when I was on the soap that I could take pilot season and go to Los Angeles. and if I got a pilot I could leave the show and I don't know how I negotiated that but they said sure and so it just took a lot of

you know as any actor you're just auditioning and I got a movie and then finally when I left the show I you know transition to nighttime stuff and some movies but mainly nighttime stuff and while this is going on are you simultaneously building your family

yes yeah we had a kid We had our child at 26. Michael was when we got pregnant quick. And we had, you know, we were kids raising a kid. And Michael is funny. He says he's like the third in our relationship. And we're like, what are you talking about? I pretty much, we all grew up together. We all grew up together. And he knows that, which is kind of interesting for a kid to understand that we were also just growing up. And when you, when you have your first kid, how were you guys able to maintain the pace of your careers. We think about that all the time. We're on a third kid now and things change. And I was thinking just about the early days of the show because we started close to a decade

ago, no kids, young, tons of energy. And it's just a different dance now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it wasn't well thought out. We just did it. You know, being on a soap, you know, we could bring a caretaker with us there while we were working. So our kids were always around us. Shortly after that, Kelly got the daytime show, which is the perfect schedule for a working mom. You're done by noon or shortly after that. So she was always been extremely involved, even as busy as she is. I can say that even before I got this gig with Kelly, I think for seven years, I wasn't really living at home.

I was either in Los Angeles or in New Mexico or in Canada for months at a time. So she really held down the fort. And I think as actors, we've always had New York City as a base, which is really, really rare, you know, and given that the soaps were shot here initially and then live is, you know, was the anchor that kept us here. So our kids never really changed schools. They always went to the same school. They always lived. We changed homes while as they grew up. But they really had, they grew up in New York City.

And what was the transition like from traveling so much? much to then being able to be home. I think it was great. Yeah. Yeah, because the last few years of travel were right smack dab in the pandemic. So, and I was working in Canada at the time. And whenever I came and went to Canada, I would have to quarantine for two weeks at a time. So I couldn't leave.

So if I had five days off, typically before COVID, I would fly home. And I would be, I'd take a red eye home and I'd be home for four days and I'd take a flight back to Vancouver and you know I go back to work or if in a specific episode if I only had two days of work out of 10 days shoot I'd do my two days and I'd fly home but during the pandemic that changed everything and I think we the last year I worked on a show in Vancouver I was gone it was a 10-month shoot and I think I was home 20 days well that's tough yeah I mean oh I remember I came home and She was sleeping on my side of the bed. And I said, she says, it's just closer to the door.

And this is where you sleep, but it's closer. And I kind of looked at it. I go, yeah, but this is my side of the bed. She's like, you don't live here. You live in Canada. This is where I sleep. I said, you're right. You're right.

I guess I'll take the other side. So what do you do about that? Like, how did you decide that this isn't working? It came down. My contract was over. And I think there might have, you know, I knew that I wanted to come back to New York. and when this opportunity came up to join her on the show, I thought, man, this, you know, we started out working together

under really hard circumstances. New parents, young kids, 12-hour days, you know, and we worked, our storylines were always together. So there was a lot. We were working together a lot. And then I think we also lived in New Jersey for like a year and a half, two years of that. So we commuted a lot of that.

That was insane. You commute together? Yes, commuted together. So there was an hour commute, 12-hour day, another hour commute back. So that was really under hard circumstances. I'm very excited to learn from you because obviously we have a similar dynamic where we work together. And my advice on this show is I tell couples not to do it. When they ask, I said, don't do it.

Because it's really, I actually think in a weird way, and she may disagree, figuring out this dynamic has been easier than figuring out how to be a couple, how to be, like, parents together. It depends on the day. the professional relationship together is a harder it definitely is it absolutely is but in this iteration of us working together my calculus was I had filled in so many times I think over a hundred times and sometimes it was if I was home from Vancouver and you know Ryan got sick or something or you know I I would get she'd wake me up it's like 730 in the morning said can you do the show today I said, when does it start? She said, we have to leave in like 10 minutes.

Can you be ready? I said, sure, yeah. I just shave and shower. I'm put on a suit or whatever, and I just go with her. And I'm like, but I knew that out of those hundred times that I did it, it was so much fun. I'm working with arguably the best in the business. It's quite, it's agreed. Yeah.

Incredible career. She's amazing. I've done it so many times with her, times where I kind of was screwing up. and she'd always, she always saved me, always kept the ball in the air. What's a screw up? Like what, you know, you have a huge guest on the show and I freeze, I'm like Starstruck and she's committed,

she's conducting the interview by herself. Who are you Starstruck by? Oh gosh, let me think about that. But along the way, for sure, you know, Starstruck, I didn't know how to like, you know, what to say and she would just handle the interview. And then we, you know, the host chats are always fun and great because it's us and I have such a good rapport.

We have such a good report. And she's so funny and she's so quick and I trust her because that relationship, as you know, you have to trust each other so much because things can go left or right, you know. And I knew that through that, my whole experience had been great. And the fan response was always great. And so I said, look, I haven't been home. I'd love to be home for a while. I get to work with someone who's really good at what they do.

The schedule is amazing, you know, we're out of there early. you know, noon-ish, I have the flexibility to maybe do a play because I haven't been in New York for such a long time. And I'd like to do this now. And so that was kind of the calculus I, the calculations that we made. And did all of that fall into line as you wanted it to? Oh, yeah. I will say that, you know, the 100 times plus that I filled in, there were no consequences. I was a hero. I showed up. I saved the day. You know, I was like, and I did, I had no, it wasn't my job. I was just filling in. As soon as it became real and it was for real,

there was definitely a period of time where I was probably overthinking things. And it was like, wait, I'm, you know, and she's like, relax, you're, you're doing fine. Or if I would screw something up, reading off a teleprompter, I thought it was like the biggest deal ever. Whereas before, I don't even remember reading off a teleprone. I didn't remember what I was saying.

So I think that the weight of the decision became super real for me. And I think it goes back to what a success mean for me. I want to be good at what I do. And do you have an inner monologue that, like, I was, me and Mark, who we were friends with, I was talking about you. And I was like, I wonder who you compete with us at this point. Like, is it yourself and your inner model? Are there, or their ideas of yourself or other people?

Like, when you think about what's driving you and pushing you? I think myself, yeah, for sure. What does that look like inside your head? It could be at the gym. You know, that's a daily competition with myself. I'm not competing against anybody. There's nobody else. I know what I need to do.

I know what I'm there to do. I know if I didn't do it. Being prepared for my morning show. I want to be prepared. We get notes night before. I wouldn't say I pour over them because at this point, after two years, you kind of know how it goes.

Being, I would say, being present on that show is super important. That's not thinking about the 20 other things that are going through my mind. that that's a competition that I kind of keep with myself be really present knowing that the assignment for that show in the morning it's unlike any other show where they're we're not new we're not a new show people are not there to hear anything super serious they're there for a reprieve i think and that's our assignment so i think that you know making sure i do that and i you know get the energy up to do that every day is I'm competitive with myself about that.

And what are the things you're doing to prepare and to get yourself in that headspace? Not only just in the work, but in the gym. Like I think it's interesting for people to know because like I said, you're a high performer in a lot of areas. And I think that inner dialogue is important. I'll look at pictures of me like two or three years ago. Look like better or worse. And I want to be, because I was, I think I'm in, you know, at 50, I was definitely in better

shape than I was at 30. Interesting. Yeah. And I just got serious. And, you know, I take health very seriously. I have very few vices. I love a cigar. But that's about it. And so I try to, I know that, you know, that, that, that kind of health is, is, is, is, it's fleeting. And knowing what the next stage as, you know, I'm 54 going in, what is 60 going to look like? What What do I want to be where I want to be doing at 60 and what I what what how do I want to look at 60? And it seems super vain, but I also want to be able to play with my grandkids and I want to be able to run around and, you know, do that. I took up golf. That's a whole other level of competition. A lot of time. You know, I like to play by myself. Okay. If I can. It's therapeutic. It's totally therapeutic. So I run around that golf course. I can get done in. in less than two hours. Yeah, imagine if you're doing it by yourself and not lugging around the group.

You can know, not a lot of conversation. Just a few conversations with myself like, oh, why did you do that? So that's a, I love that competitive side because you're really playing against yourself. I'm curious how you think about time and maybe specifically in a day because how do you get it all done?

How do you make sure you're hitting all the buckets? Do you have a set schedule every single day? Or do you live and die by the calendar? Down by the to the hour. Typically, if there's a window four or five hours, I love that because then it's just decompress and just kind of heal a little bit and just kind of do nothing. Sometimes I do nothing, which is great. But usually it's pretty, it's pretty regimented by the hour.

And what's the morning routine before you go in? Okay. So. And what time do you guys have to go in? Early, I imagine. Yeah, early, but not as early. Everybody thinks, you know, they think, wow, you must get up at three or four o'clock in the morning.

No, the show is live at 9 o'clock in the morning. Oh, that's so nice. Okay, so it's live at 9. I walk into the studio at 8. Oh. I wake up at 6. Okay. Theoretically, I could wake up at 7 and shower and shave and be in my car at 7.20 with no problem.

But Kelly gets up a little bit earlier and starts to prepare and I get up to make her a cup of coffee. So I get up at 6. I think it would probably be a mistake to get up at 7 because I'm not fully awake by. It takes me a little bit to get awake. I think you need two hours before you do anything. I agree. So six by eight o'clock, I'm awake. I walk into the studio.

And I got to tell you, the hardest, I think the most nervous I get about anything during the day, at 828, I do what's called a live cut-in. And so for ABC News in New York City and the Triborough area. So anybody that's watching ABC. And what that means is say, hey, we're going to cut to Mark Inswellis. He's going to tell you what's on live today.

And so I have to tell them who's on the show and what we're doing. And the thought that I'm on the news really freaks me out. Oh my gosh, it's so crazy. It freaks me out that I'm on ABC News in New York, the biggest market, you know, in the country. You're one of the biggest television shows and that freaks you out. To me, that's being on the news is completely different. And I don't know why. It feels more serious, maybe.

It's totally serious. I'm reading off a teleprone. and I'm a little dyslexic, if not a lot. And so I know that it's going to be an issue and I'm going to get something wrong probably and it's okay. And sometimes I don't get anything wrong. That's great. The first year, they probably, they could have a blooper reel of the slip ups and the mess

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shower dry brushing, like trying to have one moment to myself of peace. And he's like, so what do you, what do you? Maybe that's the secret. We talk too much about it. But on the flip side, when I was doing a show and she was doing this show, we would talk about work all the time. We would say, how was your day? And we talk about it. Now we know how our day went. We may talk about something that struck us as funny. Okay. Like, that was really funny today. And we'll say that.

Or, whoa, that was weird. Or... But, yeah, you don't really need the, hey, honey. How was your day thing? Because you were... Nope. It's awesome. I still want that.

I still want it. Even if you were with me all day. Just so you know. Well, we still... Yeah, we... She's a big... We have to re-talk about the thing over and over. Yeah, I like to take the cadaver on the table.

Rescitate it. We'll dissect it. Turn it over. Mark and Gillian. know this. Turn it over. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. We don't even, you know, I got to tell you, there's this thing called talk show amnesia. Okay.

If you were to ask me who was on the show today. I know exactly what you're talking about. Are you serious? You don't know who was on the show. One person, Joanne Frogate, because I think the name is interesting and I love her on Mobland. That's interesting. It's almost like you're in your flow and your routine. And then it's gone. You forget sometimes who you've spoken to or the conversation. It's not that you forget the person. You forget the conversation.

Dude, I hope you remember this conversation later. I will remember this one. You know why we're going to go to dinner and she's going to beat the dead horse. She's going to. Don't worry. It's good. It's all good. It's all good.

Yeah. I think that when you, you, it seems, when you do what you guys do for a living and kind of this goes with us, too, is like you only have capacity for so much in your brain. And when you're interviewing all these different people, you have to like move on to the next one or you have to like clear capacity. Clear. Does that make sense? Bandwidth.

Yes. Yes. Storage. Yeah. Totally. I think being a host of a show. show is different than being interviewed because you kind of have to keep it moving along. And so you're one trying to be present in the moment, but you're also trying to make sure

that it's flowing and going well. That's right. So you're keeping kind of like two opposing ideas in your head. We had Charlie Sheen on this week. I remember that interview. I want to talk to that guy. I just started his book. Did you see the, no, you haven't seen the documentary.

I haven't seen the doc yet. We watched the documentary. Okay. Fascinating. It's a fascinating life. You know why he's so great because he's so honest. That's right. It's refreshing.

I agree. It's like he lays it all, he lays the cadaver on the table. Yeah, and all, and look under the covers. Let's you look everywhere. Look under everywhere. Everywhere. And to have his exes, you'll see you on the, in the dock, he has his ex-wives, and they speak freely. Wow.

And there's still love there. I mean, it's just went on the carpet with him, right? I think for his event, she's been on the show. And I thought that was nice because they were together and it seemed like, you know, very positive. He had Heidi Fleiss on the show, who was like the madam that he was. And she's pissed at him. She's really angry at him. still. Wow. Because he had to testify. Oh. Against her. Okay. I forgot about that. I can't wait to watch

this talk. It's great. Yeah. You have had, in my opinion, one of the most successful marriages in Hollywood. How have you guys managed to do that? How have you blocked out the noise? I'm sure you could ask this a lot, but like what are the secrets after reflecting back? The first thing is that we would say that we're really not in Hollywood. We live in New York. Okay. And I know it's kind of like a pedantic type of thing. But I think there's something about New York. Yeah. That if you got to be tough and there's a bunch of stuff going on every day bigger than you and nobody has time for any of that stuff. So that's cool. I think that was also I think that both our parents are still together. We have, you know, 60 years of our parents together. So that was like, you know, there's no option.

Nope. No option. You're getting through it. I'm crazy about her. I would, think that's a huge thing I have I guess just the utmost respect for for who she is as a person I know she's got my back all the time she's extremely patient with me she was extremely patient with me right that right that one right down on the note because I did not come you know ready made as you know a guy that was ready to do you know step up and be that person right away. So she was, you know, I don't know. I feel like we really love the idea of sharing a life with someone that you really respect and love and the different chapters in these books. And just like any book that you read, some of the chapters suck and some of the chapters are amazing. And

some of the chapters are kind of boring. And boring is great. And I love the idea of that when it's all said and done that we'll have this, you know, if I'm lucky, we'll have this book of us being together and with multiple generations, you know, grandkids and, you know, we'll have done it together, these two silly kids who on a wing in a prayer and like went to Vegas and got married, it's not supposed to work, you know, and so far, you know, knock on wood in May, it'll be 30 years. Wow, congratulations. Thanks.

Wow. I think you're on to something what you said about the boredom thing because I tell Michael this, no, marriage is like a Wednesday. It's like a Wednesday. You have to like get really comfortable with that Wednesday because it's going to be sort of like, you know. And thank God for that Wednesday. Yeah, I like a Wednesday, but you know, sometimes a Wednesday's boring. Because you can't do Saturday night every day. You can't do Saturday night every day. The consistency is not a bad thing. It's a great thing. But the, but the generation I think below us, maybe our generation too, they sometimes want Saturday night every single night. Yeah. And I think like,

that you're really on to something about the boredom thing. You have to embrace the boredom part. That comes with anyone and any couple. Sure. Yeah, I mean, we think about this all the time. We've known each other for so long, pre-internet, pre-social media. We haven't been together that long. But we didn't have all of these, like, for me, as similar as thought as you.

It was like, there was no real other option than to, like, make things work when they get tough. It wasn't just like, oh, that annoyed me for the day. Now I'm on to the next. And it's like the swipe culture of, hey, something made me a little uncomfortable. I didn't like that just a little bit. And it's like, next, next, sure. I mean, we have so many friends that are not married anymore, you know. Yeah.

I'm like, okay, well, that's, you know, I feel like if you can get through the other side, you know, albeit there are obviously certain circumstances where it should be done and certain behaviors should not be accepted and, you know, all that, you know, that's not for this discussion, but if you can make it to the other side, I think it's so rewarding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it builds character in the relationship and it shows that you can kind of get things,

get through things together that's right you have three kids what what do you want to instilling your children you know i think we started really early on being on not being assholes can i curse on this oh yeah okay so being polite and one was having a conversation with one of my children recently and i was like taking issue with certain like just like like you can't say that and this is really and i'm like i'm not wasn't so much of a lecture and he he said just know that outside of this house you get nothing but good reports from about me. I'm like, you're right. You're right. So, but you know, I said, it's not a bad thing to bring that kind of into this house. So that would be number one, to be, to have some empathy and to be driven to have that inner drive for themselves

to be, to do things greater and better than we ever have, to be better than us, however that is. However that is. I mean, it's not money or just to be, just to be, have a passion and go after it and be happy. We're super proud of our kids. And we recently, since we've been empty nesters over the past few years, because our youngest went to college, essentially our empty nesters for the past four years until he would come home. And this past summer, we planned a trip to Italy for the first time just telling me for two weeks. And we had to stop over in Switzerland to visit Lola and her boyfriend and their family. And then we went to Italy. And my daughter's like, where are you guys going? So we're going to go to this place. She's like, oh, my God, I love that place. She says,

do you mind if I stopped by for a few days? We'd love that. And then my son who just graduated called. He said, what are you guys doing? And we said, we're in Italy. He said, yeah, you mentioned that. Is that offer still stand? So, of course. And so he flew over. And so we're sitting there. with our kids who are in their 20s that still want to be with us and still want to hang out with us. And I think that to us might be a reflection of a certain few things that we're doing. We did right. It's very full circle in what you said at the beginning about family. There's that clip that I'm sure many people have seen and there's a guy interviewing a billionaire and he says, what does success look like to you? And the guy said, when you get to an age where your grown

children actually want to take the time to come and spend it with you. He said, that's basically success and this guy had all the financial business success in the world i agree it's great it's i and yeah sure it would have been a little more a little more romantic and we had this nice room and there was a room downstairs and there was a room across from us and our daughter decided to take the room across from us in italy i'm like why are you staying next door to us go downstairs at least it wasn't a joint room no it wasn't but it was literally you know 10 feet away was across the hall and like gosh please just stayed downstairs. Tell us about your entrepreneurship outside of the show, because I know you just got a team. You got to tell us about that. Is it bought a team, got a team?

About a stake in a team. Bought a steak in an Italian team, yeah. Okay, tell us about that. You know, I played soccer, not really well, you know, but it's definitely a passion of mine. I love the sports so much, you know, being raised in Europe for, you know, first part of my life and having European, you know, my mom's Italian, really falling in love with Italian. football. It's been a big, huge part of my life. I love it. I love it. I didn't get any soccer players as kids, which was, you know, a moment that I had to come to terms with because I, that's what I wanted. I wanted a soccer player. Didn't get one, but that's okay. They're awesome. So when this opportunity came, it came out of nowhere through a friend of a friend. It was

opportunity to buy a stake in this club. And it went something like this. There's a fifth division team in this region of Italy. They used to be in the third division. They went bankrupt so the federation kicked them out and they have to start in the fifth division. And the season starts in two weeks. And I said, okay. And do we have any players? And the partner who eventually became a partner said, no.

I said, okay, do we have a coach? He said, no. Do we have a stadium? Maybe. I said, when does the season start? He says, two weeks. I said, let's do it. I think this is awesome.

This is great. And the main thing was that, listen, this town of Campabaso had a storied history in Italian football. They never made it past the second division. But still, second division soccer in Italy is humongous. You know, SETIA is the ultimate. That's, you know, that's the best. But even in the lower leagues, it can be massive for these towns. And they were going to lose their team unless we stepped in

and did something about it. And I said, this is awesome. This is like the best fantasy league I could ever possibly be part of. And that was three years ago. And so what does your interaction with the team like kind of day-to-day or month-to-month look like? You know, I thought it was going to be more of a silent partnership.

But my partner, Matt Rosetta, who's amazing, and he had been involved in Italian soccer a few years before that. He does a lot of the heavy lifting. But he brought me in really early on, with a lot of the player selections, a lot of the coach and general manager selections dealing with sponsors, dealing with all facets of it. So it was kind of like an MBA in professional sports that I just jumped into.

And I knew that I was spending a lot of time on the phone. I knew that I was, but every time Kelly would walk in the room and I'm speaking Italian, because we're talking to Italy, and she was like, turn around and walk out. I'm like, oh, man, this is a lot of time. And this is taking a lot of time. but I loved it, loved it.

And getting to, you know, our first two years, we won two championships. So we made it right back up to the third division where the team was before we bought them. And which is where we currently sit, currently sit. It sounds creative too for you, like to be able to put all the pieces together. It pushes all my buttons. The competitive side, I'm extremely, I'm extremely competitive, typically with myself. But then when it's soccer, when it's my soccer team, I'm very competitive. and it's creative.

We have to design uniforms, which I think are very cool. I mean, that they're going to be wearing that kit for the full season, and it's amazing. There's drama every day. There are people, there are fires to put out every single day. I do like problem solving. So it pushes that button for me too, a little bit of problem solving. And you get really comfortable with losing as well, which I probably needed to do a little bit. I think that you should do a little marriage therapy on Michael and I

So I saw you guys' house I think it was an Arc Digest I want to say Somewhere online I saw your beautiful home Yes Did you have a say? Did Kelly have a say? Did you guys work together? Because we butt heads in the design department

But it sounds like you like to be created Don't you think she should not maybe like step into like the garage portion of the design? No, the garage is all mine I feel like that's like an overstep I don't know I would say I would say you got to give her something, then she's got to give you something on that. Like, does she have a hair sink,

maybe that she can get her hair done? A hair sink? Oh, hair sink. Like a blowout bar. Yeah. I thought you meant like a van. I might. Well, maybe I'll use that too. You know, like a place you can get, you can get your hair. Yeah, get me a hair sink. And then you'll have your garage. It's negotiations. Mike, it's negotiations. I want to set up a cigar room. I know you're big guys. I have a cigar room. Yeah. See, I have that. That's where I saw the cigar room that I sent to you. That's important. That's important to have. Did you have hands on like authority? I love architecture. I love architecture. Design is, you know, I work with people that are really good at that. And I do have opinions, but I work with people that give me just a few choices. And I know what I like. I know what I like

and I know what I don't like. I don't necessarily know how to create like a color palette or any of that stuff. But like spatial things in architecture, I'm super fascinated about. So is it Kelly's infusion of her opinion on the design or do you feel like you have like your own area she's trying to lead you down the route of like you don't have to say but it sounds like you have a say i think i i think if you're i think if you would ask kelly she would say it's my i was a driving force through every detail really yeah well it's like we're going to have to be wrong question to ask you to ask you that question but she did say i think i would love a hair sink i go perfect this is how we're going to do this and what do you want? And I think she's super happy about everything in the house.

So I might give you a hair sink. You know, though, with the hair sink, you have to attach a special water thing. There's like something you have to do to the water. A filter? I don't know what it's a drain. No, you have to like get something in the house that connects. I don't know what it's called. We're not going to solve it in this episode. Yeah. Okay. One of the biggest topics on this show is health and wellness. Okay. And this could be a whole episode with you. If you and I were sitting down, I would be drilling you for hours just about your routines. But what are the kind of non-negotiables for you? Like, what are you doing every week, every day, like the things you keep coming back to to take care of yourself? At least four or five days in the gym. Weightlifting? Yep. Okay.

Pretty strict on my diet. I got this crazy calculator that I calculates my macros. The chrono type of thing? Chromometer. Chronometer. Love it. Love it. This just tells you everything. Are you eating mainly meat? Are you vegetarian like what's your i'm a i do i do eat a lot of meat and fish i'm not a vegetarian i hit my protein goals nice because i know that we're as i get older i'm losing muscle daily least in my mind that's the fight that i'm fighting so i want to keep fueling that sleep i'm getting better at i'm getting better have you guys tried to eat sleep yet i was one the first yeah do you have any sleep yeah i had a fighter for it do you know how to turn it on yes no him

Of course, it's on every night. It's amazing. I have to say, though, it is, it is a little clumsy if, you know, if we have it in a couple places. So it tells me I'm somewhere else sometimes. I'm not there. I'm here. I think the best feature of the eight sleep obviously is the cooling.

Do you like it hot? I like it cool. Oh, you like it cool. I like it cold. My wife likes it hot. Oh, no. What do you do? All night.

So, but I'm on, it's split on the middle. Oh, I didn't know that. We have different settings. I can control my. I'm like in a, you could refrigerate meat on my side. And she's, you could cook meat on her side. But I think the best feature of eight sleep is how to wake up, is that vibration. The best.

No more like alarms. It just, it just, it's like, it's a gentle. I need that alarm across the room to make me walk out. The vibration won't wake you up. It will wake me up, but I might pass back out. I get up like, are kids? And maybe, I don't know what's going on with these school schedules. Why don't they start so early?

And why aren't they in school all the time? I don't know. But my whole thing is like somebody should lobby about why these kids have to start. It's probably not good for them from a health perspective either. Well, how early is early? Like they have to be at school. 7.30. At 7.40.

Is that early? I forget. It's hard to rip them out of bed. It's 6.30. Shuff food in their face when they don't want to eat. And then like, brush the hair, the girls. They don't like, you know, it's just a lot of like. Yeah. I forgot about that. I haven't had to deal with that. And then they go and they get sick all the time.

Yeah, strep throat. Oh. They bring on the flag. Oh. We haven't had dealt with pink eye or whatever. Yeah. Hand of mouth. Hand and mouth. Hand in mouth. Hand in mouth. Any lice? No, not yet. But no lice. We haven't had. I think we, we had a scare once. But that was that was about it. If they get lice on my eight sleep, ooh, it's going to be a hard one for me. But sleep is a big. A big one huge. Huge. Huge. This show is brought to you by Daily Look. This is such a good idea. Okay, basically this is the number one highest rated premium personal styling service. So what you do with Daily Look is you try on up to 12 premium pieces per box in the comfort of your home. And it just saves you time and effort. So what you do is you fill out a style quiz and you include your price and your lifestyle preferences and you get basically 12 hand-selected curated items delivered to your home. So it's essentially like having a stylist at your beck and call in the comfort of your own room. So for me, I am so busy

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Yeah, that is hard. You know, so I do it when it's really like warm and I can get out into the sun right afterwards. I'm a bit of a wimp that way. But yeah, it's great. If you were to give our audience one piece of advice when it comes to interviewing. Say someone wants to be an interview. They're a podcaster.

I'm asking this for myself, yourself too. What would that be? What makes a good interviewer? I guess being really interested, being curious. Yeah, being interested and being okay. with going off script a little bit sometimes. Yeah. I wouldn't say, you know,

usually we know what people don't want to talk about. I'm not saying going there, but kind of going, maybe it's okay to make a left turn at Albuquerque and go into another something you're curious about. I find that fun, especially within an open format like you guys have where you have time to talk.

And on our show, it's pretty, you know, two to three minute segments, so you're pretty limited to how deep you can go. And so when you only have two to three, minute segments. And what if someone says something that shouldn't be on there? Does that happen? It does happen. Yeah. Sometimes they got write it and they, you know, it's way out of my depth of what

people are doing with the commercial time and all that stuff. But they're telling me to wrap it up. And in my head, I'm like, all right, we got to wrap this up. And they're going. And there's a bit of leeway. Sometimes it makes the later segments a little shorter. Do you see the guests before they go on in their room? So it just depends. Yeah, it depends. In the old studio is much easier to see the guests because our dress rooms are across the hall from them. Now they're in a different section. They're all over there. We're in a new Disney building downtown.

They're in a green room. That's a nice building. It's beautiful. That's a nice. And they're down the hall. If I have a friend coming that I know, I'll find them and I'll go say hi to them. And do you rip out of there right when you're done or do you have to do like a protocol before you leave? When I'm done, I usually rip out of there.

That's so nice. What a dream job. Yeah, it is. It's funny, though, as you were talking whenever I've been on news-type programs, I find it challenging because with this, you can kind of slow and stop and go, and we can go in a bunch of different directions. It doesn't really matter. I find myself talking really fast on those.

You have to get to the points. Yeah, and you can hear somebody in your ear saying, like, you know, wrap up, rub it up, buddy. Yeah, we don't have any of that. Thank God, we don't have any of those things in our ears, but we have people going. Oh, that would drive me nuts. And is the audience, are you feeding off the audience of energy? Yes. You know, again, during COVID, we didn't have an audience when I would fill in.

And it was cool. It was fine. You get used to it. With an audience is great. We found that for some reason, on Tuesdays, the audiences are more reserved. It's a Tuesday audience. I don't know why. It's Tuesdays. Maybe people in general are a little more reserved on Tuesdays. So you don't take a personal if it's a little quieter. You just know that it's a Tuesday audience. Who have been some of your favorite people that you've interviewed? Carol Burnett was absolutely amazing. Kate Blanchett, amazing. I'm such a big fan of hers.

That's a good one. Again, if I could remember everybody who's been on, I told you I have a little bit of amnesia. That makes sense, though. That's exactly what happens to us, I feel like. Well, I just think when you talk for a living, you talk to a lot of people for it. It's not that you, again, like if you see some on the streets,

you'd be like, oh, I remember. But it's just like trying to recall it off the top of your head is challenging. Yeah. Yeah. We have rapid fire questions for you. Let's do it. Best piece of advice you've ever received. Never take advice from someone who's more screwed up

than you. That's a great piece of advice. What's your favorite thing about working with your wife? That I'm working. I'm in the presence of greatness. Oh. Yeah. Do you say that about me? Yes. I say it to everyone all day long, but only when you're not around. Good tips. I want to get your head too big. Biggest risk you've ever taken. Today? Oh gosh. I think I roll the dice a lot. God, I can't really think of. I would guess, you know, sometimes it might be like a piece of real estate. It's like this is going to work. I wouldn't say getting married was the easiest best bet I ever made. I would say, yeah, probably like, just like maybe financial stuff.

What's that most underrated restaurant in New York City? Most underrated restaurant in New York City. Like where are you and Mark and Keith and Kelly going? Like, where's the place? Underrated. A good spot. Mollett, do you know, have any, do you have any suggestions for that? I oh gosh oh yeah oh you know what yes that's right that's right I would say my dining room table

in my house tell us about Sunday night Chinese Sunday night Chinese is well first of all it's a tradition here in New York City that Chinese food is is is a big deal okay you know we not so often not often enough but we'll get together with some great friends and we'll catch up and then the type of friends that it doesn't matter if you've seen them once in six months or once, you know, or twice that weekend, you can pick up and plug in right where you left off. I love those kind of friends. Last and final question. I think I know what you're going to say.

What's your favorite guilty pleasure? A cigar. What kind? Michael's a big cigar guy. Are you? Yeah. I don't know. I don't say big, but I love a good cigar.

And as I've gotten older, I've gotten more into my, less alcohol and more cigars. Which one should he try? I think they're much better for you, actually. And people don't like when I say that. Yeah. I would say that my favorite right now is a Romeo and Julietta, short Churchill. Short Churchill. Short Churchill.

So like the, it's like a, it's a nice gauge. Yeah. It's kind of a robusto size. It's like 30 or 40 minutes? Yeah. Whenever I've had one too many, I take a couple puffs of that, but I forget that you can't swallow it. Or you mean inhale? Inhale.

Inhale. Pull that clip. Taylor, pull that clip. And then, like, every single morning I wake up and I'm like, oh, my God, why do I feel so bad? And it's because I took a couple swallows of your cigar. Taylor, pull that clip, splice it up. Yeah. No, that, I think, is another reason people have a bad time with those is they don't realize you can't go like a cigarette.

I think it's more, that one's more of like an hour, 45 minutes to an hour of cigarette. Sorry, cigar. Okay. And what is your favorite one right now? I don't know. I don't have a favorite one. And I was, a buddy of mine gave me these Monty Christos. Oh shit, which ones were they?

In bundos? I don't remember. You got to know your cigars before this interview. Like I said, I'm new to it. This is unprepared. I did get a nice box. You should have a cigar room. Yeah.

Well, I don't have a cigar room yet because you're worried about your hair room or whatever it's going to be. Yeah, you have good ventilation in the cigar room. Yeah, I've been, I've been gifted. So what are the ones that you got me from Vic? I have no idea. I just said, get a good cigar. These are Arturo Flentes.

Rare pinks. Amazing. Yeah. Those are really good. Those are great. Rare pinks, that's cute. But I'm new to it, right? So I don't have like my go-to.

Do you watch a game while you're smoking it? Or do you read with your buddies? Either with buddies or I'll go outside and I'll be by myself. It's very meditative for me. I agree. And it's done sometimes. A lot of times I like it almost when I'm not being social. Just to kind of sit and think.

My daughter who lives in London called me the other day and she said, dad, I was walking on the street and a guy, a gentleman was smoking a cigar and it made me think of you. Oh. She loves the smell of the smell of a cigar. Yeah. No, I think it's like a very, especially now is like limiting a little bit of alcohol, especially alcohol. I've had some good times with alcohol, but as you get older, it's rough, especially with those young kids getting up in the morning. So, you know, I can have a cigar and feel fine the next day. If I have two drinks or even smell any, I'm done for a week. Yeah. Yeah. Where can everyone find you? 9 a.m. on check your local listings and either we're, you know, we're on multiple networks

and 9 a.m. in New York on ABC. Thank you so much for coming on. What an honor to interview. Thank you. The interviewer of the world. You guys are awesome. I really hope you get your hair sink. I will. And I really hope you get your cigar room. I will. Or cigar garage. Where? I don't know where you're going to put that. Well, now it's, we'll have to make some compromises. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, guys.