The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Rea Ann Silva Built A Multi Million Dollar Business As A Broke Mom, These Are Her Secrets
Episode Date: August 12, 2021#382: Rea Ann Silva is s the creator of the Beautyblender makeup application sponge and the founder and CEO of the Beautyblender company. Silva created the sponge while working as a make-up artist for... the Girlfriends television series. On today's show we discuss how Rea Ann built a multi million dollar business with little resources and the steps she took to get on her way. To get 20% off at BeautyBlender at click HERE and use code TSC20 for 20% off To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential The Hot Mess Ice Roller is here to help you contour, tighten, and de-puff your facial skin and It's paired alongside the Ice Queen Facial Oil which is packed with anti-oxidants that penetrates quickly to help hydrate, firm, and reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, leaving skin soft and supple. To check them out visit www.shopskinnyconfidential.com now. This episode is brought to you by Sakara This year, turn your resolutions into reality. Whether you’re looking to try plant-based eating, build an empowered body, boost skin’s glow, or simply feel your very best, Sakara makes it easy to create rituals that last. Sakara is a wellness company rooted in the transformative power of plant-based food. Their menu of creative, chef-crafted breakfasts, lunches, and dinners changes weekly, so you’ll never get bored. And it’s delivered fresh, anywhere in the U.S. And right now, Sakara is offering our listeners 20% off their first order when they go to www.sakara.com/skinny and enter code SKINNY at checkout. Produced by Dear MediaÂ
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so broadly with so many people is there's not, it's very simple. There's not a lot of secrets.
It is a sponge made out of this very special material that you use damp, and as long as
you can bounce it on your face, you will get a flawless makeup application as if you were
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You guys, welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her podcast.
It's me, Lauren.
And today, we have a very exciting guest.
This is something that I feel like everyone who's listening has,
and that is an egg-shaped pink sponge, aka the Beauty Blender. Okay, so the Beauty Blender
founder and CEO, Rheanne Silva, is on the podcast, and she is going to give you the juice on how she
launched this insane brand that everyone knows and everyone uses. Her company is projected to do 215 million in retail sales this year alone. She's all over
the place. Her tool is everywhere. And just to give you a little background on her,
she was a celebrity makeup artist. She did everyone's makeup. Everyone was obsessed with
her. She was like the it makeup artist. And while she was doing makeup, she realized with high res, you could see makeup.
So she wanted to create a tool that gave you a look of skin. Okay. She couldn't rely on air
brushing. That wasn't working. So out of necessity, she created her own egg shaped sponge.
And she started to notice that the actors and actresses were stealing her sponges. And she
had this aha moment
where she realized, holy shit, I'm onto something. And that is how the original Beauty Blender came
to be. It has won like 10 Allure Best of Beauty Awards. Everyone talks about it. Every influencer
has it. Kim Kardashian's obsessed. Meghan Markle, I'm obsessed. It is honestly a tool that I cannot
live without. I remember once I
traveled without mine and my makeup just did not look the same. And before we get into this episode,
I want to give you a hot tip about how I use my beauty blender. So I use it two ways. The first
way is you got to get it damp. Okay. That's the trick. It's going to make it bouncy and look like
skin. So I get mine damp. I squeeze it out, and then I apply a little bit of
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blender to apply your skincare. So pretend you don't have makeup. So you're going to have one
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oil, moisturizer without makeup. It works so well. And again, you're going to get it damp
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I was trying to give context to the guys, our producer and Michael in studio about a beauty blender. And I said, every single girl in the world has a beauty blender. That's probably dirty
in their makeup bag.
Cornered the market.
Yeah.
Oh my God, from your lips to God's ears. in the world has a beauty blender that's probably dirty in their makeup the market yeah my god from
your lips to god's ears it's true and also this the cool thing about your product which i'd love
to get into is that you can't go buy a cheaper less expensive version and have it be the same
there's a bounce to the beauty blender that's like a i don't know if the word's buoyancy like a
there's a bounce it There's a bounce.
That's why we named our color products bounce.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
It's a total, it feels different.
And I was just telling you how I even use it to apply sunscreen and makeup.
It's multi-use.
Huge fan.
Thank you.
To give context to our audience.
Your skin looks absolutely gorgeous for everybody that can't see her right now.
You look flawless. I am so hungover. I had 45 tequila shots last night with my friends so i'm
thank you that means a lot that many because lauren comes home and tries when she she comes
home she's like tries to give like a presentation like she's normal let's let's just table this
last time i went out with my friends it was mom's night out like you know we had some fun
i get it i'm hungover but thanks Beauty Blender, which I used this morning, I'm feeling fresh-ish.
Can you give context to our audience and go way, way back before you even started Beauty
Blender of what you were doing?
I know you were a makeup artist.
I would love to hear about the journey before Beauty Blender even existed.
Like, you want me to like start like from the egg?
Like when I was born?
I mean, we've never had anyone start when they were like a sperm, but we can start from the sperm.
How much time do you have? I'm pretty old.
Let's start from the sperm.
Okay, so I am from Southern California, but currently bi-coastal.
I will get into that later, but I live between California and Pennsylvania.
Grew up in a household where my mother didn't really wear makeup. So that naturally made me
more curious about it, but she was really big into fashion. So she was like one of those natural
girls that look really, you know, sharp all the time. So I ended up going through school here,
you know, childhood, pretty normal, not rich at all.
My dad was a mechanic.
My mom was a waitress.
Went to public schools.
I'm a product of the public school system here in LA.
And I ended up going to this little school that was starting in Los Angeles called FIDM,
the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising, which is now a much bigger school and really
amazing place
for creatives. But I went there thinking I was going to get into fashion design and totally
hated it and then ended up being an art person doing illustration and then kind of just transitioned
that media, that talent, that artistry into makeup because it was the time, right? I was
out of high school. It was like in LA for the first time. I was like going to clubs and going out and wanting to look cute and
everything. So I would do my makeup, my friend's makeup. So my friend one day just said, you should
be a makeup artist. And I was like, I'm not going to be a makeup artist. I'm going to be a fashion
illustrator. I'm going to do X, Y, and Z. Long story short, I ended up, as we know becoming well we maybe don't know i became a makeup artist
and i worked in here in la during the big mtv generation i you know cut my teeth as a makeup
artist in music video doing like a million makeup on videos to the point that my team makes fun of
me whenever we hear a 90s song they're like did
you do that video and i'm like yeah probably oh my god there's this is like very nostalgic because
i think that's like that's that's we were on that california love i worked with tupac i worked with
dr dre i worked with biggie i worked with sean combs for 12 years and did all of his artists i
did brandy moesha did all of her things, did all of Eve's things, worked with
Whitney. I was with Whitney the day she died. I didn't work with her all the time. Roxanna Floyd,
rest in peace, her amazing makeup artist and friend of mine who passed away was her regular
makeup artist. But in this particular moment, I was working with her. So many people. I had
three agents here in LA, between LA and New York. And really what had happened was I had kind of reached a ceiling at what I could do as a makeup artist. I was
in the union. I was department heading films. I created Beauty Blender on the set of Girlfriends,
which I was department heading at the time. And it was the first show that was being broadcast,
shot and broadcast on high definition. It was like an experiment. And that's where
I created Beauty Blender to do the makeups. But I did everything I had done. Editorial, fashion week, television,
film, commercial. There was like there was nothing really. There was no other frontier. I'd even done
like porn. I mean, the only thing I hadn't done was like like funerals. Is there makeup on the
vaginas in porn? You know, I probably sucked at that because. Oh, my God. I thought you were going to say I probably sucked that. And I was like,
like, let's take a plot twist. I probably sucked at that particular medium because I was so like
freaked out at how free and like how normal these people are. They're you know, they're
but when you look at porn, you go like, oh, my God, these people, how did they do this? And they're just like regular, normal people that just have sex on camera.
No, I was not going down there.
So no penis makeup.
You're not contouring to make the penis look bigger.
No powdering booties.
I mean, it was all neck up.
You never know now.
Maybe things have changed now.
I mean, I just, I don't know.
Things are pretty high def now.
How do you know?
Well, that's for another podcast, Lauren.
That's for another time.
That's another subject.
Yeah, so basically, you know,
I had reached a ceiling with my makeup artistry
and I had been doing it for, you know,
a good amount of time at that point.
And I started, I was also a single mother.
I have, at the time, I have two kids now,
but at the time I had my daughter, Erica,
and she, you know, was going to, I was making good money. Don't get me wrong. I was making six figures,
but just like living in LA is expensive. And she was going to private school and I was like,
what am I going to do? And I also knew that, you know, I come from very, what is it? Modest,
you know, beginnings. And I knew at some point I was going to have to take care of my family, probably my parents. And, you know, I'm going to need to make more money. So
how am I going to monetize this career of mine? What am I going to do to make more money beyond
as much, you know, where I'm making now? So fast forward to girlfriends getting this job,
being the department head on the show called Girlfriends, which is Tracee Ellis Ross.
I don't know.
It's kind of like having a resurgence right now on Netflix.
It's all over the place.
But at the time, it was just a cast of pretty much unknown actors.
And it was kind of an experiment.
It was Kelsey Grammer's first show that he was producing under his company.
And Mara Akilbrok was the writer and producer. And soa Akil Brock was the writer and producer.
And so I had worked with her on Moesha.
So we came together and it was kind of like this experiment.
And that's where Beauty Blender was born.
I had to find ways to make makeup look natural
because suddenly when you shoot high def,
it's really kind of technical.
But when you shoot high def as opposed to film,
you see everything.
Like you see pores, you see scars, def as opposed to film you see everything like you see pores you see scars you see little hairs you see everything so i needed to find a way to do do beautiful makeup on these women but make them look like they weren't wearing makeup
with high definition easy to do on film not so easy with high def but now it is because there's
a beauty blender well you know what's crazy is like and maybe that maybe some of the men needed
hairs but i was watching this cooking show the other day
randomly and it's super high def and there was a male chef and you know they probably
put makeup on these guys to you know when they're in the lights but like they didn't
it was just it didn't blend anything they didn't use the beauty mask yeah and so you just looked
like a thing and i was like oh like but you would probably never notice that but now i mean listen
doing this show i'm learning a lot but i just i remember seeing like oh it looks like that guy like has just makeup on yeah you can like see all the
blended makeup on yes should have the beauty blender right i would tend to think that's
probably more of a skill set from the makeup artist but you know better not mention the
network i'm sorry makeup artist let's send them a beauty blender let's send them so i want to know
how you had an aha
moment. Was it an aha moment or was it like a slow build for you to develop this? Well, I had been
looking. I had been actively. Executing different techniques on camera to see what would work best,
you know, I would go and look at the dailies when we would shoot and just, you know, and or if if I didn't and someone said, hey, Rianne, this looked a little weird. Can you look
at it? And I would look at it and try to fix it. So I was on the hunt for something. I didn't know
I was going to be creating something that, you know, was going to sell around the world, you
know, 17 a minute or some crazy thing. I my team has calculated, but it was kind of by accident.
It was kind of by accident. It was kind of by accident,
but there was an aha moment. I mean, when I finally realized this thing works, I had that
moment of like, okay, so how do I get this made? Because basically what I had done was I had taken
those triangular sponges that everybody at the time, you know, you could buy at the supermarket,
you could buy at the drugstore, you could buy at the beauty store. They were just triangular
sponges cut like flat triangles. And I shaped it into what is now an egg shape or a little
teardrop because I was trying to take the sharp edges off because like your friend or the person
you saw. I wouldn't call him a friend. Right, right. Okay. I corrected myself. The person on
the. I would never be friends with someone that does makeup like that.
I'm just kidding.
I would.
The line of demarcation that a straight edge leaves
is something that you have to pay attention to.
You have to be a detailed person.
Not all makeup artists are detail-oriented, right?
They're more, you know, holistically detail-oriented,
not like individually like foundation.
I started to cut the edges off of those sponges
and came up with that shape and then realized I needed to make it bigger. You know, there were
tweaks. It was like the aha moment was like, oh God, this thing works because what I was doing,
I got the job because I was an airbrusher. So airbrushers, airbrushing makeup was used a lot
in special effects makeup artists, the makeup like horror
movies and that kind of stuff, but not really with beauty makeup. But someone somewhere down the line
came up with this rule at the time that the best way to apply makeup in high definition was to use
an airbrush. So when they set out to find the makeup artist for girlfriends, it had to be
somebody that knew how to airbrush. So I knew how to airbrush. And I was starting my morning every
day airbrushing the girls. But what I noticed was that, okay, I would airbrush them. We'd leave the
trailer. We'd walk to stage. We'd start shooting. And when the director would yell cut and we'd have
to go in to do touch-ups, I would have to remove them and bring them to my makeup trailer or my
makeup table setup where there was electricity so I could use the airbrusher. And if you've ever worked on a set,
I mean, the last thing you want to do is remove your actors from the set. The last thing you want
to do on an ensemble female cast is remove one female actor from the set because then suddenly
the rest of the girls all want to leave too they're like oh
she's going oh i'm going to the bathroom i'm going to my trailer i'm going to craft service i'm going
so then suddenly i'm going to go make a phone call suddenly i became like persona non grata like
don't come in here don't even cut like you can't take them off set and i'm like okay so that was
that was the impetus really for me to find a tool or a way to keep this airbrush look without using an airbrush.
So that was how Beauty Blender was made.
It was cutting the edges off the sponge.
You know, you're supposed to, for everybody listening who has never used a Beauty Blender,
if you ever use a Beauty Blender, and I can't talk about the other sponges that
try to be a beauty blender, but my sponge beauty blender, you must use wet. And that seems really
counterintuitive for when you put makeup on, you think like, oh, it's going to, you know,
dilute your makeup or it's going to change the formulation. It does not. What it does is it,
it makes the sponge not thirsty anymore. So when you're bouncing it on
your skin, it's actually pushing the makeup out onto your face. If the sponge is thirsty, it's
like, oh yeah, suck it in, suck it in. But if it's wet and not thirsty, it's like, oh, I don't need
it. It pushes it out. I love products that have stories of ingenuity behind them. And I love
products that are developed because somebody's solving a problem. I think people that just try to create something like, oh, I'm going to do this.
And everyone's going like, they haven't actually lived the experience.
As you're telling this story, I'm like, oh, this completely makes sense why you would
figure this out.
She was a practitioner.
You did every single thing and saw-
I did every step.
Yeah.
And you saw every issue, not just like on application, but even like beyond that, like
how people were interacting in the atmosphere.
I always find this stuff so interesting because I don't think this could be developed without this type of experience.
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you are going to be in love. Well, yeah. And as a matter of fact, when I went to try
to get it made, because at the end of the season, when I went into hiatus, I had realized that,
you know, me and my team, we had been hand cutting these sponges because it worked. So that's what we
did the rest of the season. So we would have to sit and hand cut those sponges. But if you know anything about being on set, you sit on set and
you have a lot of downtime. So I would just give them these sponges and we would cut them. And that
would be what we use for the next day. But, you know, that's not a productive or efficient way to
work, right? So I was like, okay, during my hiatus, I'm going to try to figure out how to make these. And so, you know, I was so stupid. I was like thinking, oh, we can bake them in my
oven or we can like, I was so like clueless and it brings me back to what you're talking about.
You had never done product before that. You were just.
I'm a makeup artist. I went to public school in FIDM, which is a great place, but I was not an engineer, you know?
So I was a creative.
One of the things that I did during my hiatus, like I said, I was a very busy makeup artist.
I used to travel the world with musical artists or actors doing press all over the world.
Everywhere I would go, I would buy a bag of sponges and I would look at who was manufacturing and who was distributing.
And there was like a theme happening. There was this one company that kept popping up. So during this hiatus, I called that
company, just cold called. I mean, 411 got the number. There was no Google back then, guys. This
was a while ago. So I called 411, got the phone number and called them and spoke to this lady who was in product development at that or sales, I think,
at that company. And, you know, I told her, you know, I was like, I'm a makeup artist. I live in
Hollywood and I do celebrities and I have an idea for a sponge. And she was like, oh, honey,
we have like 300 patents we hold. And I'm sure there's something we have that is exactly like what you're wanting to show me.
But, you know, thanks, but no thanks kind of phone call.
And I was just like, well, who designs all of these 300 patents you have?
And she just kind of like was kind of speechless.
She was like, well, engineers.
I was like, so you're not even curious being a cosmetic foam company that sells to Estee Lauder and all these.
You're not curious about my design.
I'm like in the trenches every day.
I mean, if you have 300 patents, I think what's the harm in looking at mine?
And she was like, well, I guess if you put it that way, I'll take a look at it.
And I was like, OK, so sign my NDA.
And then she was like, oh, an NDA. I was like, yes, you have to sign an NDA. And luckily she did.
And by the way, this woman, her name is Catherine Bailey. And she ended up working with me to this
day. I still work with her. And she ended up coming to my company. She left that company
and came to my company. And long story, but that was pretty much the response to your point.
Like, you know, I did the work.
I went through every single part of the process.
And then when I got to this company that makes these products, they were like, oh, I don't
know if we can, I don't know.
There's nothing new under the sun.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
I think that's like the secret sauce and everything is you have to have somebody that's actually
a practitioner that actually understands it, not just from like the product angle, but from the user angle, the experience, the atmosphere, crazy because it took about, I don't know,
a couple of weeks for her to get back to me. You know, she had to go through this process at her
company who really didn't want her to talk to me as I got the backstory afterwards, because of
course we had many years to talk about what had happened. They were kind of like, why are you
wasting your time on this? And she was like, you guys have set me out on a course of innovation.
I'm bringing you innovation and why are you stopping me? And so she forced them, which they took a long time to sign my NDA. By the time
I got the email back to her and I was able to send the product out and then she was able to,
you know, reach back out to me after seeing it. She literally said, I said this, I will never
forget. She was like the pan. She said it was like the palm slapped to your forehead, you know, like, why didn't we think of it? And I was like, remember when I told you it's because
I'm a makeup artist and they're not. And it's probably a lot of male engineers
that are designing this that have no idea about makeup in Pennsylvania.
OK, so did you decide to end up partnering with them or was it complete? You just went
off and did it on your own. So what ended up happening was she ended up leaving the company. She started helping me. They
told her, you can work on this if you want to, but it has to be on your free time. It's not on
our time. So in other words, you're nine to five or whatever your day looks like that the work that
we need you to do, you can only do our work. You can work with her that's on your free time she never told me this but i was so grateful for that because when they parted ways i was not tied to that
company thank god because then i ended up taking everybody well and also they probably wrapped you
up in all sorts of you know legal handcuffs were like who knows if that ip would even ended up
being yours after everything they would have probably tried to do. They were all great people though. The people that worked
there were really great. And I, I don't know if you heard, but they pretty much, a lot of them
came to work for me at one point. It was just the bosses. Like they were going through a transition
in their own business to be fair. A lot of this type of business was being outsourced to Asia.
And so they were trying to stay relevant
and fiscally competitive.
So they were outsourcing too.
Sure.
So they were reducing the size of their footprint
here in America.
And that's when this woman, Catherine,
was able to leave the company and come work for me.
So what did the first Beauty Blender look like?
Like who, what year was it?
Is it was your like demo millennials? Like,
like I want to know who's getting the beauty blender in the mail. What's the packaging like?
Yeah. So, well, the very first beauty blender, you can go on to this. It's in the Smithsonian
Museum in Washington, D.C. I'm in the Smithsonian. It's crazy. Oh, my God. It's crazy. So I have an
exhibit where I'm sitting next to Madam C.J. Walker and all these there's eight women. It's crazy. Oh, my God. It's crazy. So I have an exhibit where I'm sitting next to
Madam C.J. Walker and all these there's eight women. It's called and the exhibit is out right
now. It's unfortunate that the exhibit has been out during covid because the museum has been closed.
But I heard they're extending the exhibit because of that. But it's an exhibit called The Only One
in the Room. And it features eight women over the course of 100 years that have invented something that changed their industry. Wow. That is cool.
Isn't that crazy? Oh, my God. That's so crazy. So, yeah, I mean, it's just a little egg shaped
sponge that we cut out of this really porous sponge material that really rubbery like we were
just we were just trying to get the shape. We weren't, it wasn't like the material that we use today. And, and the reason why Beauty Blender is the
category creator for these kinds of tools now is because it was the first one to do what it does
ever existing in that category, but also the material is so different and special. That's
why people go and buy cheaper versions,
like less expensive versions. That's always what drives this kind of like loyalty issue. And it's
the dollar. But there is a reason why we're more expensive. We have a more luxurious,
high performing material that people, they think it's just a sponge. It doesn't matter. It's like,
you know, it's just a sponge. But we have this really amazing material that we use.
And trust me, I thought that you have these all over the place. I find these all over the place.
So I am so inspired by you because I just launched product recently and I, I hope that I'm following
in your footsteps with updating a category. I updated the ice roller category. It was so cheap and just not how I wanted it. And so I changed everything about it. So when I hear
your story, I am just so inspired that you updated the category. Why can't anyone get this exact
dupe? Like, why can't you dupe it? Do you own the material? Is it a patent?
It's kind of like the
coca-cola secret you know it's like i have a great relationship with my manufacturer and we have an
agreement that he only sells this material to me and it's beneficial for him because we sell the
most of anybody in the world so there's you know we're like i was saying we're at the top of the
category but we're also the the one that sells the most volume.
And you guys just launched an eco-friendly one.
We did.
Which is green.
I thought that was genius.
Thank you.
And I noticed also you also launched foundations.
You launched a little beauty blender holder.
How did that start to happen?
Blender defender.
Yeah, well, you know, I was still doing a lot of actors for red carpets back when we had red carpets.
And I would do their makeup and I would leave them with a beauty blender and I would wrap it in like a tissue.
And, you know, most actors, especially the newer, younger ones, a lot of times they borrow clothes
and they would borrow clutches from really high end, you know, designers. And they couldn't stain
the inside of those bags that are made of silk or whatever, right? So I
would always really carefully wrap my used beauty blender. I would load the beauty blender with
makeup so they could touch themselves up. And I thought, this is so stupid. I need to just create
a case for it. And that's why it's mushy and you can adjust the size of the blender defender to fit,
you know, you could fit power pocket puff, which is my
innovative powder puff that I also created where you put your finger in the pocket.
Or if you're a makeup artist, you can use it as your pinky rest. It's washable and it has like
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that you were really on to something? Did you know right away or did it take a little bit?
Was there like a moment that you can look back on and pinpoint that you had an epiphany?
Well, thank you so much for that huge compliment,
but we're not really a massive company. I still own my business. How do I say? Okay. I mean,
massive, like, um, an empire, like a massively distributed product. That's the word. Okay.
So how did I do that? You know, again, I'm not, you know, a Wharton School of Business graduate. I am a, you know, FIDM creative, like I'm left brain, like totally. So business has been something that I've had to learn. And fortunately, by bringing on Kathy, the woman that I was telling you about, the first person that I spoke to about Beauty Blender, she had a business background. She was the one that could,
at least to a certain point of growth, she was able to help me grow the business and help me
figure out how we plan to distribute, how we manufacture, how do we, you know, logistically,
operationally support sales if we go out and try to get more sales. Because, you know,
the first thing a person wants to do is go get sales, right? You want to go out and find stores that are going to buy your product.
But then those stores require planning and consistency and, you know, a guarantee that
you're going to be able to ship to them. So there's all the planning involved with logistics
and manufacturing. And she was helping me with that.
What's a day in the life look like when you started,
when you were struggling with everything
you were doing to now?
It is different, but not that different.
So at the time,
I was still a working makeup artist eight years in.
I mean, I was still taking shows.
Eight years into running this business.
Wow.
Wow.
And it was because I didn't
take a paycheck because I don't have investors. I didn't bring anybody in. I didn't have a
strategic partner. You dream big, right? But I guess I was just dreaming sufficiently at the
time for what I needed to do at the moment. I wanted to become a bigger company, but I didn't want to give up a piece of my business
to do that.
So I don't know.
I'm kind of old fashioned in this way.
Like I wanted to be able to have a business for my kids.
I wanted to be able to have something, a legacy or something left for them.
And I just, you know, I'd started to hear
a lot about companies that were taking on financial partners and, you know, a lot of them work,
worked out and still work out, but some of them don't, those founders end up losing their
businesses and they never planned on that. And so that was kind of like scary for me. So
I just kept working and I just kept, you know, and I, by the way, I love doing makeup. I'm
a makeup artist at heart first and foremost. And so I remember I would show up on, on set and this
one particular makeup artist, his name is Sam Fine. He's a friend of mine. I would show up,
he'd be there with like Queen Latifah and I'd be there with like Regina Hall or something.
And he'd be like, why are you here? Go home. Why are you here? Go home. You don't need to be here.
And I'm like, but I love it here. Why are you kicking me out? Like I love doing makeup.
That's amazing.
Yeah. Well, I think there's a couple like really good takeaways there, especially for like the
younger listeners or people that are starting out. One, that you can kind of have your other
thing and start this side thing that obviously becomes a main thing. And two, and I don't think
enough people talk about this. You read so many headlines about companies that are either venture backed or take on funding.
This one actually took on funding because of the category we're in, right? But I think that there's
a real, this was the only one I've ever done that with. I think there's a real argument to be made
about bootstrapping if you can be in a category that you don't need to bring on like funds to
hyper accelerate past the competition. Absolutely. It's totally a personal decision, you know, too. It depends on how much bootstrapping
you're willing to do. You know, how hard are you willing to work? I mean, because sometimes
it can be perceived bringing on a partner, you know, makes things a little easier,
but not really because then now you have a partner that you always, you know, if you're
used to running your business on your own, you have a whole other challenge.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's like a marriage.
You know, you have to find the right partner.
And, you know, God knows I've met so many really amazing companies that are interested
in Beauty Blender.
And one day I hope, you know, I'll probably do that.
It's not that I'll never do it.
I just, you know, it's kind of a weird time right now, but. No, but I think it's good you say it because I think
people nowadays, they think you, in order for a business to be successful, you have to bring on
funding. And I, and I think there's an argument to be made that for certain categories or certain
industries, depending on the timing, that there is that argument to be made. And it's probably true,
but there's a lot of other things. I mean, your business is a perfect example where maybe you
don't need to do that and you can still be successful and you don't have to
answer to anyone. You don't have to bring on all this capital because people think like the capital
is like, they say, congratulations. But whenever people say that, this is like, it's just another
obligation now that the business has to meet. It's not like a win. Like it just means like,
no, however much funding you're now you're on the hook for that money.
It's another layer.
Yes.
It's another layer of responsibility, however much funding you're now you're on the hook for that. It's another layer. Yes. It's another layer of responsibility.
Yes.
You know, and listen, I had dogs, I had a makeup career, I had kids, I had a partner, I had
parents that I was, you know, taking care.
Like I didn't want another relationship.
I don't blame you.
I think getting away from celebrating fundraising is an important thing.
I think if it's necessary, it's necessary, but it's not something to do just to do.
And it's definitely not something to like go and congratulate everyone about. It's just,
you know, it's taken on another obligation. What are some pain points that you've experienced
along the way? Some of the pain points. Well, you know, it's, it's interesting when we went from
being strictly a tool business to being a tool business and a color business, which means makeup,
there was a different mentality and a different thought process and a different forecasting for
the business in color, which it was, you know, I remember I have this one friend, a dear friend of
mine, who is the founder of Two-Faced. His name
is Jared Blondino. And we were out to dinner one night and I told him I'm going into color. He was
like, don't do it. Don't do it. Just stay where you're at. And I should, you know, sometimes
on those moments, I think, why didn't I listen to Jared? Because there are pain points. There's
pain points in any growth in a business. And coming from being strictly a tool business and then entering the color category, which
is completely just competition all the way, and then entering that category in the foundation
complexion category is the most difficult category to break into because women that
buy foundation are pretty loyal to it. Like
they find something that works and they want to continue to use it. So to, to try to get consumers
to try your product is pretty challenging. And you know, I, the way I looked at it was by this,
this time we had global distribution of Beauty Blender. And I thought to myself,
if I could just get everybody that loves Beauty Blender to try my makeup one time, it's a win. If just once, they just have
to buy it one time. And the pain point was that with that thought process is that that's a concept
that's not a plan, right? There was the pain point of trying, how do you market and how do you plan
and forecast and distribute a product internationally and
domestically to make that happen? And boy, you know, that's when I realized I needed some change
in my business. Like there was a different mentality that I needed to bring in because
we were kind of using the same way of thinking with the tools as we were with color. So that, that was, that was a pain point
for me. I've since then, you know, I've restructured and I have an amazing team. I mean,
they, my, my other team was amazing too. It's just, we grew and now we have, you know, we have
a different kind of business now, but that was a big, you know, entering the complexion category
was a big pain point. Growing your business, generally speaking is, you know, entering the complexion category was a big pain point. Growing your
business, generally speaking, is, you know, can be painful. You know, there's more considerations
that you never thought about that you have to think about, like scaling and, you know, staffing
and people that you're trying to hire that have the right kind of backgrounds and maybe sometimes
having to say goodbye to certain people. I mean, that is like, for me, the hardest thing. My business, I'm so, so, so fortunate that I've had a very high retention rate in my
business.
I mean, up until recently, because when we reached the new category, you know, there
were certain changes that I had to make.
And that was really painful.
I'm sure that's really, really hard.
Yeah, because I ran my business and
I still do to this day like a family. I mean, my family, my daughter is involved in my business.
My husband runs, you know, I have a production company. We have a studio in Woodland Hills and
he runs all production there. We're constantly cranking out, you know, content and everybody
in my business I consider to be like family because
we are still a small business so when you said oh I have this I don't know what you called it
maybe it's perceived to me it's like it's such a to me it's such a huge empire that you've created
I think an empire oh my god well I think also too it's hard when you have a company where everybody
kind of knows everybody and everything that's going on to then you grow and it's, maybe they don't know as much and they don't know as many people and
they may feel disconnected or less connected than they felt in the beginning. And that's
always challenging. It is. What is the best form of marketing that you've ever had for the Beauty
Blender? Was there ever someone that put it on Instagram or that used it or maybe it was in a
commercial? What's the best thing where you were like wow this this person or this commercial really translated and worked well I would say
hands down word of mouth I mean has been the best I would say secondly my makeup artist peers because
they are the qualifiers of your product right right? It's one thing to have a product
that, okay, Sephora is going to, you know, bring you in and you're going to start selling your
product at Sephora. That's all fine and good. But when a consumer doesn't know if your product is
trendy, if it actually works, you know, what it does, if they see, you know, someone behind the
scenes at a TV show on a clip on ET using a beauty blender, or you, you know, someone behind the scenes at a TV show on a clip on ET using a beauty blender
or you, you know, turn on the housewives and you see someone, you know, using a beauty blender or
Friday night lights or I mean, I can tell you there's been so many unplanned product placements,
I will say that have happened that that is also very beneficial. But I will say really honestly,
hands down, Kim Kardashian, like five years ago, like when she was, you know, she's huge now.
Don't get me wrong, but she's in the beauty space now.
So, you know, she's and by the way, she still uses a beauty blender.
I love her so much.
But when, you know, when she was just, you know, the queen of the selfie and all of the things going on in her life, you know, if she opened her mouth or used anything everything she was like oprah right
everything would just sell it was like kim and her makeup artist mario always using beauty blender
that really there's like a photo of them i don't know if there's so many with with all her contour
on and i think someone's holding a beauty blender yeah and then she just blends it all in yeah yeah
it's so good yeah what are some of your beauty secrets on how to use the Beauty Blender?
Because I think it's way more for just makeup.
I think it's multi-use.
You know, it is.
But honestly, I think the reason why Beauty Blender is so popular
and why it resonates so broadly with so many people is it's very simple.
There's not a lot of secrets.
It is a sponge made out of this very special material that you use damp and as long as you can bounce it on
your face you will get a flawless makeup application as if you were a professional
jayla once said i'm sure you heard this too and i take inspo from this that she's not a big
fan of washing her beauty blender and i'm gonna, I don't really remember the last time I washed mine.
I heard her say that it makes the beauty blender like work better.
Have you heard this?
Yeah.
You're disgusted because you're a makeup artist.
Yeah.
I don't think I've washed mine since like 2001.
I just think that sometimes, you know, listen, part of my study when I made beauty blender
was every time there was a new actor
in my trailer, you know, this is like this dance as a makeup artist that you go through when you
have an actor in your chair that you've never worked with before. Like, you know, you don't
know them. They don't know you. You know, your job is to make them feel comfortable and make
them feel like they look appropriate for whatever they're doing, right? Like what I used to do to kind of break the ice and be like,
okay, so I'm your makeup artist.
Show me your makeup bag.
I want to see what you use.
Like what is it?
What is your thing?
And hands down, I don't care who it was.
And sometimes the bigger the celebrity, the grosser the bag.
I'm just going to say because they're so used to having people do everything them. And this is like your personal thing. They don't do shit. They just let it go. And it's
just like an organism in itself in the bag. But, you know, you would open up the bag and you would
just see all these really, you know, dirty tools. Like the worst thing that ever happens is like a
pencil sharpener that opens in your bag. And then all the wood chips and all of the crayon and everything is all over the place.
Or, you know, if your powder opens up with that, it's like, I'm telling you, it's like dough. It's
like this weird shit in the bottom of your bag. And then it gets all over everything. And the
grossest thing that I would see would be someone that would have a compact, whether it's like a matte compact or whatever, and you would get a sponge just ases are not shiny and slick. Crazy looking thing that
people would just smear all over their face. And it was always amazing to me. So it does not
surprise me that JLo did that. And, you know, I love her and she's amazing and she loves Beauty
Blender too. But, you know, let's face it, JLo doesn't have to clean a Beauty Blender.
Yeah. Well, if Taylor, our producer, had a makeup bag, I can guarantee you it would be grosser.
There would be mold.
There would be pubes.
There would be all kinds of stuff going on in his makeup bag.
It's amazing.
It's amazing because girls will hide things in their makeup bag because they know people
aren't going to look in there.
That's not the place you want to go look for stuff because it's makeup.
I don't want to be sexist here, but I've caught you making some pretty big mess.
I have sisters and I'm like, hey, listen, I would make a bold argument that
sometimes women can be much dirtier than men. A hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred. But we do
everything a hundred percent. We're either really clean or just filthy. That's my favorite thing
about why she'll tell me how clean she is. But I'm like, you're the one that made the huge mess.
She's like, look how well I clean this. I'm like, I didn't have any part of that mess.
You cleaned up your own giant mess.
I like to make a pigsty and then get it so psycho clean.
It's so satisfying, isn't it?
Tell me how clean you are and how dirty I am,
even though I had nothing to do with either.
Oh my God.
Cleaning a beauty blender is pretty satisfying.
Watching all of the pigments and everything come out of it.
We have these videos that people just like love to watch.
I bought a little doll.
I'm sure you've seen this washing machine.
Have you seen this?
It's a doll.
It's for a doll.
What?
The doll washes her clothes in the washing machine.
And I put water in it.
And I put my beauty blender in it.
I'll show you guys after.
It doesn't really clean it very good.
I have one too.
It's for children?
You guys should make a product though
that you can just drop it in
and it does that
and make it like really cute and pink
so we can put it on our vanity.
We have one.
We just haven't sold it yet.
I'm just like
I'm trying to figure out
if people really care.
People care.
They do now.
You think they care?
A hundred percent.
I have this tool I made.
Please, release it.
Yeah?
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah, it's cute.
It's fun.
It's kitschy.
Just continue to expand the empire.
What's going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just keep it going.
Oh, I do.
I mean, oh my God, that's all I do all day long is dream about extensions.
Is that what your day-to-day is? Creative? Oh, so we were talking about the day-to-day is dream about extension is that what your day-to-day
is creative oh so we were talking about the day i want to know your day-to-day so where my day-to-day
was before i would wake up really early and have to be on set you know in the meantime like you
know being a mom and at the time a single mom like you know it was like a circus act you got
plates and balls and one foot in the air and all things going on. I would be getting up really early to be on set because makeup is the first people on set. And, you know,
trying to figure out how do I get my kids to school if I'm not there? How do I feed her? How
do I pick her up? How do I get her to sports? Like all these crazy things going on. That was like
time stacking and trying to project manage my life every day while I was held. I call myself like a veal when
you're a makeup artist. You're like a veal. You're just in a trailer, in a car, on a set,
in a hotel room, in a studio, in a dressing room. Like you're always, you know, in a place.
How do I manage my outside world while I'm focusing on my job? And pretty much that's
my day to day now now too. It's
just different content. Like what do you mean? Give us specifics. So now because I'm bi-coastal
depending on where I'm at. So right now I'm in California with you. I leave Sunday to go to the
East Coast. But every day while I'm in California, my day starts latest six o'clock in the morning because my office is running three hours ahead.
So it's as if I'm on set.
I'm still waking up early and I'm still time stacking.
I'm doing everything that my team needs from me, from a creative, from approving art files,
to approving product development, to approving copy, to approving legal documents, you know, talking about, you know, strategy.
I have executive team meetings once a week. I have product development meetings once a week.
I have marketing and social twice a week. You know, I'm constantly doing all of these things
and at the same time trying to take care of myself so I stay alive so I can continue to do this because work will kill
you. It's clear. I'm clear about that. I got a thyroid condition during my development of Beauty
Blender while being a makeup artist because I was doing so many things at one time. My doctor said,
you have Graves' disease. We don't know what causes it. Probably stress. I was like, oh, okay.
So what happened? Did everything stop no no did well
if you have to go to the hospital what happened you're still working from the hospital you were
kind of i worked i worked from the hospital when i had a baby i get it i i you know i didn't really
have to go to for the thyroid thing i didn't have to go to the hospital i just had to swallow a pill
of radioactive iodine that would close up, you know, kill
your thyroid.
And then it was wonderful, you guys.
I had to be sequestered and secluded in a room for 10 days.
What?
That was the most rest ever.
I caught up on everything.
I still worked, but I was able to binge watch all kinds of shows.
It was actually really wonderful.
While my thyroid was dissolving away.
I was like-
Did it hurt?
No, didn't feel anything.
10 days in a room alone.
Yeah.
Could you even go outside?
As long as there was nobody around.
And the interesting thing was like-
Where does one go to do this?
In your room, you close the door.
No, that's not enough.
She'll get to me.
My kid will get- Where do I go to be away for's not enough. She'll get to me. My kid will get...
Where do I go to be away for 10 days where no one can get to me?
Besides...
I'll find you.
Potentially prison.
Play Sugar Storm by Gone Girl, Taylor.
I 100% will find you.
That sounds nice though.
10 days to just veg out, relax.
But I was working too because I could be on the phone.
You know, I was working.
I was...
But, you know, it was just.
Lauren, I could set up a bunker.
I could go alone and just set this mic up at the screen and like just be.
I could use a break from you.
Listen, go watch the movie Nomad.
There's plenty of places where no one will find you.
The one that just won.
Yeah.
I've heard that's great.
He's going to watch it 100%.
He's reading The Stranger in the Woods.
Have you heard about this?
Well, I don't know about a tangent.
There's this guy.
It's a true story.
He went off into the woods of Maine for like almost 20 something years and never came back.
And everyone thought he was like, nobody knew.
He lived in the woods alone outside of society for 20 something years.
He lived on the land.
Yeah.
It's called The Stranger in the Woods.
It's a crazy story, but it's a true story.
Oh, I'm going to watch it.
Yeah.
If we divorce, you can go be The Stranger in the Woods.
And eventually end up getting caught. I have to read. I don't have time to read. I need an audio book. It's just a wild story but it's a true story i'm gonna watch it yeah if we divorce you can go be the stranger guy and eventually end up getting caught i have to read i don't have time to read but you
have to i need an audiobook it's just a wild story he literally it's they say in human history he
might be the only person who's actually voluntarily chosen to disconnect from society for that long of
a period of time without him because they even say even monks like would have help and people
would bring them food he had no help help, no food, no resources.
He was just off the grid.
That's wild.
That's giving me inspo for you.
If you keep acting up, I might just be... I know exactly how I did it.
What is a beauty product that's not by Beauty Blender that you're obsessed with?
Because I know whenever you leave the house,
you're going to bring your Beauty Blender.
Every girl does.
But what else are you bringing with the Beauty Blender?
That I'm obsessed with.
Skin, brows, hair, nails.
Okay, so skincare for me, I love skincare.
So right now, I'm obsessed with this brand called RetroVay.
Are you familiar?
I'm going to try it.
So my cute little girlfriend, her name is Maya Henry.
She's like the brand ambassador for this brand.
And I believe that the founder of this brand is Family 2 Keels.
So they went off and they, you know, made their own separate brand.
And it's a super high-end skincare line that I really love.
And I just started using it like a week or so ago,
and I'm totally obsessed with that. But prior to that, I was obsessed with Korean skincare.
And it's been way before it was a trend. I'm kind of a creature of habit in some ways. If
something works, you have to convince me that I need to try something better.
And when I was in Asia, I discovered this brand that wasn't here yet. It's called Sulwasu.
And it's here now, but I was obsessed with that skincare brand. I wouldn't go anywhere with it. I loved everything from the texture, the smell, the feel, just the whole tradition of the whole
brand is so beautiful. I'm going to check
both those brands out. So nice. I'm going to tell you which products that I love from RetroVe too.
Do you like moist skin? I like moist skin. Dewy, moist skin. The word moist is so sick and porny,
but I do like dewy, moist skin. And I just used their body oil for the first time last night. I'm
obsessed. If you could leave our audience with a book, a podcast, or resource that has brought you a lot
of value in business, it could be any kind of content, audio, anything. What would it be?
Well, that's such an interesting question for me because I told you about my daughter, Erica.
She's beautiful. She's all over
my Instagram. She's really like my brand ambassador and she really has been the face of my brand for
so many years. But she's my wild child. You know, she's amazing. She's creative and she's smart.
And she created this podcast, you know, out of adversity or just out of, you know,
shit happens in life, right? Like I didn't plan on being a single parent and I was a single parent. She didn't plan on being a single parent
and she ended up being a single parent. And her and her girlfriend created this podcast called
Good Moms, Bad Choices. And it's all about trying to break down these kind of stereotypes about motherhood and, you know, being able to kind of really
have it all. Like, why can't you have it all? And so for me, that's not really one that has been
like something that has benefited me business wise, but as a human being, as a mother and as
a businesswoman, seeing my daughter create
this thing from nothing.
She's an entrepreneur, just like her mom.
Yes, and she just got a book deal, and she's shopping TV shows for it.
I mean, it's amazing.
Her and her partner have really, like, I got to tell you, like, I was, like, a little on
the fence with this in the beginning, because they talk about some controversial shit that
you don't know, like, you want your daughter to talk about.
Like, you're like,
what are you doing?
Oh,
you could talk to my dad.
You should take my dad for happy hour.
What are you talking about?
Don't you know,
this is going to affect the rest of your life.
And she would just look at me and go like,
mom,
you're so old.
I'm like,
no,
I'm not.
I'm really cool.
Like I'm not old.
I just worry about you.
She's like,
good mom's bad choices.
I'm going to listen.
You are a delight.
Come back anytime anytime where could everyone
find you and support beauty blender and maybe we can do a giveaway if you want after that i would
love that yeah yeah so beautyblender.com is where you find me you know and and your instagram my
instagram is beautyblender perfect and mine is rianne silva love it and give away what should we give away i don't
know we can give away anything you can we give away how about we give away rianne's favorites
you pick your favorites of whatever that is oh my god yes okay i will do that okay so all you guys
have to do to win is follow at beauty blender on instagram and tell us your favorite part of this
episode on my latest instagram at lauren bost Thank you guys for listening. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me.
You guys are so fun. Huge fan. I'm going to actually give Michael a beauty blender to apply
his skincare with because he's a big skincare guru. Oh, it's so good for skincare. We have a
white one called Pure that is designed for that. There's no dyes in it and it's perfect for
skincare. Oh, look at you. I need to do something. Look at you, you do need to do something.
Thank you for coming on.
That story was so inspiring.
It's so amazing that she was a broke single mom and she completely built her Beauty Blender empire
with an egg-shaped pink sponge.
With that, we're doing a giveaway with Beauty Blender.
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