The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Real Housewife Tiffany Moon, M.D. On Dallas Housewives, Bullying, Reality TV, Immigration, Beauty Tips, & Putting People To Sleep

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

#473: On today's episode we are joined by Real Housewife of Dallas Tiffany Moon, M.D. Tiffany Moon, M.D. is a mother, wife, entrepreneur, anesthesiologist, and TV personality. She graduated from medical school at the top of her class at the age of 23 and currently is an Associate Professor of Anesthesiology. Today Tiffany joins the show to discuss her journey on housewives, bullying, immigrating from China, and what it's like to put people to sleep.  To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) Check Out Lauryn's NEW BOOK, Get The Fuck Out Of The Sun HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential  The Hot Mess Ice Roller is here to help you contour, tighten, and de-puff your facial skin and It's paired alongside the Ice Queen Facial Oil which is packed with anti-oxidants that penetrates quickly to help hydrate, firm, and reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, leaving skin soft and supple. To check them out visit www.shopskinnyconfidential.com now.  Produced by Dear Media 

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Shop SkinnyConfidential. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. The way they film it is like you do something, you're at a party, people are nice, people are not nice, whatever. And then you watch that three months later. So then you watch that after someone was just nice, nice to you, they went to a table over here and talk shit about you. And you're watching that three months later and you're like, damn, I didn't huge Housewife fan. Huge. And I'm a huge fan of this guest today, and that is Tiffany Moon. She is an MD. She is a mother, a wife, an entrepreneur,

an anesthesiologist, and a TV personality. She was on Real Housewives of Dallas. She is iconic in every way. We are going to talk about how she was born in a small town just outside of Beijing, China. We're going to talk about her childhood. We're going to talk about gerbils up the ass. Don't ask. You got to listen to this episode. We're going to talk about what it's like to be an anesthesiologist and, of course, Housewives, all the juice. We go everywhere in this episode. Taylor, our producer, actually texted me and said this is one of his favorite episodes that he's listened to this year because it's a medley. It's like a big bag of Chex Mix. You don't know what you're going to get in this episode. With that,

let's welcome Tiffany Moon, a board-certified anesthesiologist who practices in Dallas, Texas. She's a mom, an entrepreneur, and she has the brand Aromastisia, which is a candle company. And my God, do they smell good. On that note, Tiffany, welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her podcast. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. You were telling me that oxytocin is the hormone. Yes. Of orgasms. When you have an orgasm, your body releases oxytocin. Also, when you breastfeed, it's the feel-good hormone. I don't feel like I felt like that breastfeeding. Why am I the only person that doesn't feel like that? No, no, no. I thought breastfeeding was going to be this magical thing where I bonded with my baby and a song came on.

I was like, ow, that hurts. What are you doing? And they wouldn't latch. And then I tried to do two at the same time, like one on each teat. And that was not fun. So one would go on and one would pop off. And then I'd sit down and my husband would have to

come hand them to me. And then I was crying and they were crying. And then my husband's like, what the fuck do I do? Husband's crying. My husband's crying. That's a lot of work

to have two sucking on each boob. Like that's a lot. Yeah. Is that overwhelming to have two at once? I don't know any different. Like I've never had one. So I don't, do you know what I mean? It's like when people ask you if you like your college

and you're like, I don't know. I didn't go to any other colleges. This is the only experience that I've had. I imagine that having one baby would be easier. I imagine that I wouldn't have stretch marks if I didn't grow, you know, 60 pounds. I'm also blessed because now I'm done. I know. Fuck you. Well, you're going to be done too, maybe. That's what we were talking to Dr. Gadir on this podcast, who's like a fertility expert. And he's like, if you ever have more, just like do it with twins and just be done. And that does like kind of sounds like, oh, it sounds kind of nice. Yeah. But also like I had preterm contractions and was on hospital

bedrest for six weeks. So like being careful what you wish for. You were you had to sit still for six weeks. Uh huh. I was allowed to get up and use the best the restroom. So it wasn't strict bedrest. It was called modified bedrest. So your husband had to bring you everything in bed? He didn't do anything. I had a caretaker. He hired someone because he still had to go to work. Don't get any fucking idea. He was like, here's $30 an hour. Give her whatever she wants. I got to go to work. Wait. So you literally could not get up unless you had to go to the bathroom? Correct.

What about like bathing? I was allowed one shower a day for like 10 or 15 minutes. Did that make you depressed? No, I shopped online a lot. And my assistant would open packages while I laid in bed. And then I'd be like, oh, yeah, I forgot I ordered that. Like baby clothes and skincare. And we watched Breaking Bad.

We binged all of Breaking Bad while I was on bed rest. And then my husband came home was like, should you be watching such violent, explicit material? And I gave him this look and he was like, as you were, honey. As you were, honey, or yes, dear. That's all I want to hear from Michael Bostic this whole pregnancy. It's so easy. It's like literally a formula. Just keep it. Yes, dear. Yes. Okay. So the reason that I ask about the bedrest thing is because you're an overachiever and we're going to get into it for you to be sitting in bed for six weeks. Seems like it's either I feel like a great break for you or it would be really hard for you because you're so used to doing so much. It was miserable, except that I had a paid

companion with me and it was our goal to finish Breaking Bad. And also we shopped online a lot and I earned an extra board certification in my medical specialty while I was looking for. Yeah, I knew there was something. I went to the testing center in a wheelchair. OK, listen, I was trying to get it out of you. I'm like Yeah. I knew there was something. I went to the testing center in a wheelchair. Okay. Listen, I was trying to get it out of you. I'm like, but what?

There was something in there. The lady at the testing center who checks your ID to make sure that it's you before she lets you into the testing room. She was like, honey, you better not go into labor today because I do not want all that drama up in here. And I was like, yes,

ma'am. Okay. So I want to go back to your childhood on housewives. I'm a huge housewives fan. i've dissected like every single show i've watched your whole season on the season you open up about your childhood and how i believe you you immigrated here yeah at the age of six at the age of six okay so let's go back before six where were you living beijing wow with my grand well with, well, with my parents until I was three, but I don't remember, right? You don't remember zero to three. And then my parents came to America when I was three and left me with my mom's mom and dad,

my grandparents. So all I remember growing up is being in China with my grandparents. And they came out here just to, they wanted to see like, okay, let's see if we can go make a life out here. And then eventually if we can then exactly michael and i went to beijing uh-huh it's such a culture shock have you been like back oh we used to go back all the time because my grandparents still lived there but now they have passed away so we don't really have a reason to go back would you take your twins um when they're a little older, yes, because the jet lag is a bitch. It's like exactly opposite. It is a bitch. Terrible. So until it's okay to like give Ambien to your kids, I'm not going to take them to China because I can't even deal with

the jet lag. And, you know, now I'm asking a seven-year-old to deal with the 13-hour time difference. It's crazy. They need to invent something for that. So when you came here, do you remember being here at six years old in America? Mm-hmm. And where were you? I went from Beijing to JFK. We lived in New York, Queens. I mean, that's a big difference.

It was a big difference. And all I had ever known was hanging out with my grandparents. I was about to start school in China, but I never actually did. And then they put me on a plane with a flight attendant because my grant we were so poor they couldn't come with me and only i had a visa anyway to come to america so i got put on a plane by myself with a flight attendant who was supervising me and then landed at jfk and like met my parents but i didn't know who they were like i knew they were my parents but i don't know these people because it was it was a three-year gap. Yeah. And there was no FaceTime back then.

This is the 80s. I was like, yeah, these people send a picture from America once in a while. Like they're my mom and dad. But like I slept in a bed with my grandmother in China, like in a one-bedroom apartment. They were my only friends. Like I didn't want to go to America. I was like, forget America. Like I want to stay here with Grammy, you know?

Do you remember being scared? Yeah yeah that had to be tough like i think the flight attendant literally had to like pry me off my grandmother to get on the plane and that was also my first plane ride ever and would you do you remember being on the plane like you actually remember it i remember because she offered me coca-cola which in china was like on my birthday, I got a Coca-Cola. And on the plane, she just kept giving it to me and it was free. And I must have drank like 14 Coca-Colas on that. She's like, welcome to America, processed food and Coca-Cola. Yes, all the snacks and Coca-Cola.

Like I met my parents and I was like, I have to pee. So when you meet your parents, do you actually remember like being there, what it was like to come to their house? Like, do you remember that year of your life when you came from China? I do. I remember it. But to be honest, it was kind of terrible. Like I didn't know who they were. I didn't know who they were I didn't know English they put me in first grade I knew no English they were working because we were poor I lived in a one-bedroom apartment they had the bedroom and I slept on a full-size mattress on the floor like no bed frame like it was just a mattress that someone had like given to them and that's how it was and I went to school and your only child I was until I was 11.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. So basically. So when you don't know English and you go to a school. It's terrible. Yeah. I don't think that I really wanted to have you on this podcast because the moment with

your mom, like it's like that seems like really intense to go to a school and not know the language. Yeah. And my mom and I, sadly, we never really got close. Like, I want to be besties with my daughters. Like, when they go to college, I want them to call me every day, tell me how class was, tell me about the boys that they're dating, like all that stuff.

My mother and I, we barely know each other. Still to this day? It's so weird. Still to this day. And I love my mother. I would do anything for her, but I barely know her. Do you think it's the way that our parents grew up that that happens where you feel like you don't know them? Maybe she didn't know her mom.

Yeah. I mean, it's like a cultural thing. Yeah. And we sure as hell don't talk about feelings. All that stuff that happened on Housewives and when we had this dumpling party and and my mom told me that she was proud of me and i sort of broke down and then she sort of broke down people were like wow you're a really good actress and i'm like no no honey like that was real they were like certainly that was not the first time that your mother told you that she

loved you and that she was proud of you and i'm like i'm pretty sure it was or i wouldn't have cried like that yeah it's i think it is a culture that we were talking before. Obviously, I didn't immigrate here, but I'm now for the first time learning way more about my grandmother and her side of the family than I ever did when I was a child. And I'm 35 years old now. And I have to pry the information out of relatives and friends and elderly people that kind of knew. And it's like this whole weird expose where I got to put all these pieces together to kind of figure out who somebody really was. And I've known him my whole life. Does that make sense? Yes. It's exactly like that. So I feel like just now I'm starting to get to the point where I'm

starting to get to know my own mother. And it's sort of through the lens of my children. Because I say this, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, but my mother is a much better grandmother to my daughters than she was a mother to me. Because when I was young, she wasn't around because she was working her ass off trying to make ends meet. We were trying to get groceries on the table. That's interesting that you say your mother's a better grandmother than she was a mom to me. But maybe that's sometimes

I feel like how it's supposed to be if you don't have a good relationship with your parents. So you can sort of fall in love with your parents again, seeing that side of them, if that makes sense. Yeah. Like when I see her interacting with my children, when she comes over and my children are so excited to see her and make signs for her like we love you Grammy all this stuff like it makes me understand and know her better I'm gonna let everyone in on a little secret that I have been doing with the skinny confidential team and it is called issue if you have a business or a brand, you got to hear this.

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you can buy this book and it's 150 pages but before you buy the book they send questions to your parents and your parents have to do this q a yeah and they fill this out and then it goes into this beautiful book like a biography of your parents and you're able to learn more about them i think it's called storybook no it's called story worth story and i paid the money oh my god and i asked my mother before i paid the whatever 99 if she would fill these out and she said yes she has never filled out a single question for your birthday can you ask her to fill it out i will ask her again but i feel like it's she she there's like some like maybe she doesn't want to answer it maybe she doesn't want to answer it yeah maybe there's things that she doesn't like

what she wants to suppress i think especially that because again common ground like immigrating here like that generation went through a lot of hard stuff there's a lot of like hard life that they went through to get over here right and so like maybe maybe some of that is hard to go and recollect. Maybe. Maybe there's something that she just doesn't want to talk about. It's almost like you have, as you get older with your parents, and I tried to do this with my parents, is you have to come from a place of empathy.

Yeah. Or else you'll just go crazy. I know. And you'll take it personally. Yeah. Because it sounds like clearly your parents' intention was to come here and try to build a better life for your family and for you. Yes, yes.

And don't get me wrong. What I say is I owe everything to my parents. Because if they had not had the fortitude to come to America when they actually didn't know the language either. And me dealing with racism, God, what were they dealing with in the 80s? My dad was here on a student visa and washing dishes in the back of a Chinese restaurant for $2 an hour being paid under the table because you're not supposed to work on a student visa. What kind of racism did they deal with? I want to learn from their experiences, but I think they don't want to talk about that. So maybe we shouldn't talk about it because

maybe that'll bring up a lot of negative feelings for them. It's good though. I think that this generation is talking about it. Right. Like, I think that that's going to be so helpful for the next generation to be able to just normalize talking about things like this. Yeah. How did you experience racism when you were little? Oh my gosh. I started first grade not knowing any English. We didn't live in the best neighborhood. So, you know, of course, kids would do this slanty eye thing and call me Chinky Chong. And a kid was, I guess, like dared by another kid to cut my hair because I always had like long black straight hair like silk and so this guy came up to me at recess with a pair of scissors because his friend like dared him and just cut like cut a snip like just enough to where it looked crazy right I wore

glasses because I was a huge dork one time they fell on the floor and instead of like picking them up and giving them to me somebody actually just like stomped on them like on purpose kids are assholes this makes me emotional because having a daughter i feel i feel like too you have to teach your kids like as a parent yeah if anybody does that's my daughter i'm gonna go he's crying i'm gonna go i'm just gonna go to the parents house and beat up the dad i'm gonna actually say you know what's almost just as worse is someone doing that to your daughter is your daughter doing that to someone. Yeah. That's almost worse.

No, I think like, yeah, if there's gonna be some harsh parenting, if any of our kids ever bully anybody. Yeah. I think times have changed. I hope that our children are not like that. But the sadder thing, honestly, is when I came home and told my parents like, oh, the kids make fun of me at recess. No one plays with me, all that stuff. You know, if it was me, I'd be up in the principal's office, like having a talk with the superintendent. What my parents said to me is they're just words, honey. People can't hurt you with just ignore them. Focus on your studies,. Make straight A's. That'll show them that you're not a loser. They never really stood up for me or

themselves. And at the time, I didn't understand, but I think they were probably dealing with it, too. They were probably scared, and they were probably dealing with it, and they probably didn't have the tools. Right. And now we speak you know and we even speak up on behalf of others but back then we just kept our head down and tried not to make a fuss i almost i do agree with you that it is getting better in person but it seems like with tiktok especially it is so gnarly like tiktok people will just say whatever whatever they want i mean i can't even believe some of the things these kids say I don't know if they're kids or adults I don't know you know the age of the person leaving the comment but I made a cute one that was like ways to tell you're at an Asian

house and I was like you have to take off your shoes at the door you know all this stuff and then somebody was like and they serve that like for dinner or, you know, like that was the comment. And I was like, block, delete. You know, I actually now have hired someone to be my blocker and deleter. So I don't even see a lot of those comments anymore. That is so smart. So you have someone who goes in that you just don't even have to see the negative. Yes, ma'am.

It's like, get it out of my ether. I just, you know, I mean, is it unrealistic? Maybe, but it's also stuff that no one would actually say, I hope not, to my face. So my assistant, part of her job that was listed in her job description is to filter social media comments. So I don't get the troll hate. I don't blame you at all. The way I look at it is my social media is like a house.

If you're going to come into my house and kick your fucking feet up on my white couch with dirt all over your boots, you're going to get kicked out. Right. And the same with social media. I don't want your negative vibes in my community, in my space, around my friends, around my family. Get the fuck out of here. Like, bye. Exactly.

Our opinion on this is people live in a time where they think everybody's opinion is valid and valued. And I just don't agree with that. I think that some people's opinion should be completely discounted and completely unvalued, especially if their intention is in the wrong place. And you have all these people online trying to toe the line to appease these people. I'm like, listen, if someone's a fucking asshole, they're an asshole. Like get them out of your face. Yeah. Right. But there's, I grew up in a time when, unfortunately there's bullies, but I also had the attitude. Like if there's a bully, like my dad taught me this from a young age, maybe it's not kosher now, but he's like,

you walk over that bully, you hit that guy right in the nose as hard as you can. And what it did when I was a kid is like, it maybe caused some other issues to other places. But as soon as that happened, all the other bullies kind of went away. They kind of stopped, right? And that doesn't happen anymore. It's like we let the bullies get away with things we would have never let them get away with in the past.

Wow, these bullies are hiding behind a screen name from God knows where, sitting on their ass, eating cereal for lunch. You know, I'm like, show your face, show your name. Come say that shit to my face. And don't have laugh love dance in your fucking oh my gosh or a bible verse those are the worst then they make the meanest comments michael got a great great dm the other day i'm gonna just lay it out there michael said this dm said show us your genitals it's what the people want actually didn't i actually was flattered by that and then he went to the bio and it said like it

was a a mother of two and the account was like all about her children i'm like listen i don't know if these kids know what mommy's up to online yeah you're about to have another brother or sister no i'm just that's what mommy's trolling after. You know what, I didn't take that as a troll. That's not bad.

That's going to turn you on. But then again, I guess like, you know, if the roles are reversed, like if a guy's doing that to a woman, that's very aggressive.

I've got a couple of veiny penises. Oh, I get dick pics in my DMs, but now I don't see them anymore. But my assistant, she's like, I'm like,

how many dick pics did we get this week? And she's like, only four. Tell her to screenshot them and do a swipe right. Oh, we're going to out them soon. We're just going to story them because I'm tired of people. We'll post it.

Her parents are saying, so what'd you do at work today, honey? She's like, well, I just got rid of about four dick pics. Her parents know. The creative dick pic that I got was a guy was fucking a dildo. He had the dildo upright on the bathtub edge and he was fucking it dildo. He had the dildo upright on the bathtub edge and he was fucking it with his asshole and masturbating at the same time. And I thought, you know what?

Props to this creativity. This is like a Kanye West of like dick pics. Thank you for that. I really encourage this, Lauren. If I had a dollar for every household object that someone has accidentally fallen on and come to the emergency room because it was stuck, you know, I wouldn't have to be working on this candle business so hard.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was going to get to this this part because I have some questions before this. But first, I have to hear what are what's what are some things they fell on? Flashlight up Up their ass? Yes. Always boys. Well, no, there was one girl. D-sized batteries, like the big ones, but they're short. What were you doing with that? Isn't that dangerous?

Doesn't the water affect the battery? I have no clue. Okay. A Barbie, all the way like almost to her knees, so pretty far in. You know? Because he was like, I thought I was going to be able to pull it out, but then her arms got stuck. Like,

well, do you know what I'm saying? Like, are you sure? That's why babies come out head first. It's like an arrow. Yeah. So we had to extract it from his anus.

That's not a collector's item anymore. No, no. Gerbil. I've heard gerbil. I've no animals, no animals, no snakes,

no gerbils, no eels. I don't know how the eels. I don't know. I don't know how the eels i don't know i've heard this is what i've heard straight from the source my friend who does surgery told me that gerbils are super popular because when gerbils go up your ass they seize and the seize makes the vibration super strong and so they go up and down up and down like almost like you know those toys that you wind up on the side yeah and so the gerbil is like the most popular because the seizure is like a particular seizure oh my god yeah no i've not taken any animals out of people but lots of

household objects that they inadvertently fell onto do you guys say like you didn't fall i don't say shit because i'm just an anesthesiologist i'm just there to give a general anesthetic because they need to be fully paralyzed and relaxed so that the surgeon can retrieve the object and then it has to be sent to pathology because the rule is that any thing that comes out of a human has to be sent to pathology so one guy like cussed us out in the recovery room because apparently that dildo was kind of expensive and we wouldn't give it back to him.

So I got cussed out in the recovery room. I feel like he shouldn't use that dildo again if it got stuck up his ass because you don't want it to happen again. I don't know. People don't learn from their mistakes, right? This would be the last of my concerns if I was in there for that circumstance.

If I wouldn't be like, hold on, I need to get to get that back i'd be like i need to get out of here and never come back and move i'm moving out of the country after this i know get a barbie stuck up your ass i'm gonna send you to tiffany there's absolutely no way that's happening unless i'm under anesthesia i mean they always say that there was the girlfriend that put it up there and i'm like well where is she now how come she didn't come with you to the hospital that's she must not love you that much that's a lie that's a lie next She must not love you that much. That's a lie. That's a lie. Try a gerbil next time.

I mean, a gerbil's better than a Barbie. Maybe not, because it's life. How did we get here? Okay. We've devolved. So,

you're growing up. How much pressure was put on you and you kind of talked about this on the show for getting good grades, becoming an anesthesiologist. Like,

was that a precedent that you had to hit or was there no pressure? Oh, anesthesiologist? Like, was that a precedent that you had to hit or was there no pressure? Oh, it was all pressure. Like my parents would literally get pissed off if I brought a 98 home. Like that stereotype like came from my father. He'd be like, well, what'd you miss?

And then I would show him the test, you know, cause they would mark it. I mean, you'd have a piece of paper and then whatever that was, if it was subtraction, long division, whatever thing, he would then make me do like 10 pages of it. And he's like, well, next time you're not going to miss it because you're going to do 10 pages of it. So that next time that that kind of problem comes around, you'll know the correct answer. So I was punished with anything that I did wrong. I had to read extra books, write book reports.

They told me, your English has to be perfect. Like you cannot bring home anything less than an A, ever. So what would your parents do if you came home and you said, I want to be an actress? I have no idea because I would never do that.

I never, I didn't try. It wasn't even in the cards for you to say anything like that. It was doctor or lawyer, pick one. That's it. That's it. And I don't know because I didn't test to, I didn't try to, you know, I never brought home a bee. When you were little, did you ever think of anything else you wanted to be or was it not even in your ether? It wasn't even in my ether like it never even occurred to me do you know what i mean it's like that's all i knew like they you know it's like when you grow up in a cult i mean not that my parents are a cult but do you know what i'm saying like you don't

know any different and then we would go to church and all the chinese aunties would always praise my mom and dad and be like oh tiffany's so so smart and so obedient. And then I would just smile. And that was the only time I was ever really praised. And so then it became reinforcing. I'm obedient and smart. I'm obedient and smart. So then I would be obedient and smart because that's all I had. At what point, how old were you when you started to realize, wait, I can do other things. I can be multifaceted and wear pink and beautiful eyelashes. And like, I mean, you're gorgeous. Like I can also tap into like my vanity side, but I also can be fun and have tequila. And I also can be an anesthesiologist. Probably right around the time that I started filming for housewives 35 um to be exact

i think in my early 30s i'm not kidding is when i kind of figured out like wait i don't just have to be smart and obedient i went to college early i graduated from cornell when i was 19 years old went to medical school wait wait wait wait whoa stop like i did i knew that i remember that from the show now that you just said that. Wait, first of all, how did you graduate early from high school? You just got straight A's and they were like, you should graduate early and go to Cornell? I had no friends. I read all the time.

I took advanced calculus as a freshman and my high school was like, we don't have any more classes for you to go to college, bitch. Like we don't are your parents proud at this point my dad couldn't even be bothered to come to my cornell graduation because he was like it's just undergrad i'll come to your medical school one he didn't come to graduation hold on where is cornell in ithaca new york upstate so when you're graduating early from high school- He's in Dallas. He's in Dallas.

Were you living at the school? Yeah. And are you partying? Are you just working on class? You were young then, huh? I was young. It was 19 when I graduated. But I had a sorority sister and she sort of looked like me.

And so she pretended that she lost her ID and got a replacement and gave me her old one. So I had her address memorized, her birthday. She's an Aries. I'm a Leo. I was her. I embodied her and I used her ID to get into clubs. Her name was Jessica.

So that's my alter ego. When you're this smart, this young, I've actually wondered this before. Is it natural? Is it practice? actually wondered this before. Is it natural? Is it practice? Is it a mixture? Is it execution? What to be that smart to graduate Cornell at 19?

Like, what is the recipe? I think there's some innate ability mixed with it's a little bit of nature a lot of nurture and the fear of god that if you don't do this you will be worthless because in many ways that's what i was told you're smart and obedient you're smart and obedient i was never told you're kind you have good ideas. You're creative. You're beautiful. Nothing like that. And so it was my singular goal in life to make my parents believe that I was worth their hard work and sacrifice by coming to America to achieve and to check boxes and to earn diplomas and bring home A's. That's all I knew. Looking back on this, do you think it's so crazy that you graduated Cornell at 19, or is it not even phase you? No, it's so crazy because my stepdaughter, Nicole, is 18. We just had dinner last night. I look at her, and I'm like, a year from now, she should be graduating college. Wait, no,

that's not right. Like there's no way. Like who let me out of the house when I was 15? They just let me go live in the dorm. And when I was 15, I had a college boyfriend that I probably shouldn't have been having, but I lived in a dorm and I was smart. You know, when you're smart, you also know how to get away with things, right? Like so dating this guy that i shouldn't have been dating when i was 15 because he was 18 let me tell you about what i was doing at 19 when i was 19 i was flashing tits on the bar i was fucking off i was drinking um like i was out till two in the morning what were you I mean I was studying I was studying for midterms I think there is like I mean

that is such an intense experience but I also think it's inspiring in a lot of ways because it's incredible what you're able to achieve at such a young age and I think it proves the human potential what that kind of focus can do not saying that everybody should do that.

No, I don't recommend it at all. I actually don't recommend it either. But it's really inspiring to hear that with that type of focus, those kind of results can happen. I mean, that's an extreme example. But we hear the other extremes all the time of people kind of fucking off, not doing anything, trying to find their path. And it's like, well, focus, sit down. I mean, you're on the one side, but the other side is like people like, what do I do? I don't know if I can do it. And here's a 15 year old girl that goes to college and then graduates Cornell at 19. And now I want to look at a lot of people like, hey, what's your excuse? You're 35. Let's get it together. Well, I was a robot. I had no emotions. I was like,

I will go to school. I will make good grades. I was a fucking robot. And then I graduated like, I will go to school. I will make good grades. Like I was a fucking robot, you know? And then I, so I graduated 19, went to medical school, graduated the top of my class with an MD behind my name at the right baby, which is a 23, went to UCSF, which is a really good anesthesia program, got married and had two kids by the time I was 30. And I was like, mom and dad, I have now completed the checklist that you gave for me. Now, do you love me now? Am I worthy? And they're like, you're right.

And then I had a midlife crisis and I was like, I have done every single thing that anybody in this world has ever asked me to do. I'm a good girl. Like I, I help people. I save lives. I had two children at the same time. God damn it. And I'm like, what about me? Good girl. Like, I help people. I save lives. I had two children at the same time, goddammit. And I'm like, what about me?

And then Bravo knocked on the door. And I was like, you know what? I will embarrass myself on national TV. Why the hell not? I will build my own candle business from scratch. Because I like candles. I will start my own wine company. Because guess what?

I like candles. I will start my own wine company because guess what? I like drinking wine. And it was like that early 30s, like 30 to 35, where I was just like, F this. Because I've done everything that's ever been expected of me. And I'm still not fulfilled. So now I'm just going to do me. You are Tony Robbins' prime example. Have you heard of this? No.

The art of achievement. No, the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. Is that a book? No, it's his like whole thing is like you. There's so many people that he talks to

that are millionaires, billionaires, so fucking successful. High achievers. High achievers, just like you. That come to him like Steve Jobs style. Not Steve Jobs, Steve Wynn. Excuse me. Steve Wynn come to him and sayve jobs style not steve jobs steve winn excuse me uh-huh steve winn

come to him and say i'm unhappy why and it's because exactly what you just said they've done the checklist they've achieved everything that there's possibly to achieve but they don't feel fulfilled yeah and it's exactly what you're saying that's that's like really really crazy that you you did the checklist, you did everything your parents wanted you to do, and you still felt like there was an empty void. Well, I think a lot of it is because in a lot of ways, you're fulfilling somebody else's checklist. Right. Right? It's not your checklist. It's not the thing that you would have actually wanted to do,

but you're doing it for, in this case, your parents or what you perceive to be is acceptance, all of these, what you perceive to be is gaining love, all of these things. Yep, exactly. When you look back on your life, because you were so young when you went to college, what were the sacrifices that you look back that you think you made? Oh my gosh. Well, I don't know if you call them sacrifices because I just wasn't allowed, but I never had a sleepover. I never got to go to other people's birthday parties because usually if you go to someone's birthday, you're supposed to bring a

gift. And we were so poor that we couldn't afford to bring a gift for the birthday person. So then I just wasn't allowed to go to the party, even though we had no plans. I was incredibly lonely. I wish I had had a sibling. I mean, my brother was born when I was 11. I left for college when I was 15 and he was four. So it's not like we kicked it together. I mean, my brother was born when I was 11. I left for college when I was 15 and he was four. So it's not like we kicked it together. I barely know my parents. I barely know my brother. It's so weird to say these things out loud because I think these things, but most of the time you don't talk about stuff like that, except with my therapist. I know, but it does make you, in my opinion, opinion one a great housewife because there's so many

There's so many people that probably feel the same way and relate to you on so many of these things Is your brother feel like he has a checklist too? Or did he go the different a different way? I feel like you either go one way or the other with how you grew up. I tell him That his name is josh. I'm like josh we have different parents. And he's like, what's she talking about? We have the same mom and dad. And I was like, I know, stupid. Listen to me. Mom and dad, when they had you and you had your childhood, were not the mom and dad that I had when I was a child. Because by the time he was born, we had money. We lived in a house where you drive up and there's a house. There was no stairs in an apartment. I didn't have that until I was 10 years old. That's why they had him because then they could finally afford to have another baby. So he had toys growing up. I went to Goodwill and garage sales growing up you know like we had different but i love him he's my brother he's a doctor

because you know he was given the choice as well doctor or lawyer so now you know everyone tells my parents like oh my gosh you guys have the best kids he's a surgeon i'm an anesthesiologist you know blah blah my parents are very popular at chinese church when you when you're that age and you're maybe not getting you know the attention that a child typically gets, how are you seeking out comfort? Where are you going to find those moments of comfort so that you can maybe escape loneliness? thing that I'm really grateful for, I think about it in my meditation, is that Michael is on board now with keeping everything in our house clean, even our cleaning supplies. Well, listen, even if you're someone who's resistant to switching your household supplies, listen to a few of our episodes and you'll realize how important it is to have clean ingredients in the house for your gut microbiome, for your children, for your pets, for yourself. All of these things affect us in such a significant way. So honestly, switching to a better and more effective and safer product

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And I kind of figured out that it's you, bitch. Make it happen or don't but like you can't really count on other people and maybe that's not so good because then you know I had a lot of walls and when I did start making friends when I was older I sort of would be like oh when's this person gonna abandon me when are they gonna betray me like you know because I just always had like abandonment and trust issues Michael and I are big readers too and I would love to know any books that you could recommend to our audience like maybe like your top three it could be something you're reading now something you read when you were little something maybe a book that changed your life anything. Oh my gosh I love I have so many books Grit by Angela Duckworth she's a UPenn

professor Present Over Perfect by Shana Nyquist she She's amazing. I probably just said her name wrong. Becoming, Michelle Obama, these sorts of memoirs of people who are telling their story. I need to read that, Becoming. Yeah. Okay, I have a book for you. Oh, God. Good Morning Monster.

Oh. It's all about childhood trauma. Oh. And it's five cases of five different childhood traumas. Oh. And it is so fucking good. And as you were talking and telling your story,

these are like extreme traumas, but there are little parts of like what you're saying, like being alone and what these kids did. Like one was locked in a basement. Like it's so good. Yeah. You'll like it. I just, but I don't want to come across as this like whiny,

like my parents abandoned me. Like they made but I don't want to come across as this like whiny, like, oh, my parents abandoned me. Like they made a huge leap of faith to come to America for the opportunity to give me a better life. Like if they hadn't have done that, I'd probably be stuck in Beijing right now. I don't know what the hell I'd be doing. Or maybe I would have made it. Like who knows, right?

Because we don't have a control for this experiment where one of me went to China, I mean, stayed in China and one of me came to America or whatever, right? Like we have no control for our own lives. And I just, I never want to come across as like ungrateful for my parents or that they caused me so much trauma, but at the same time, like they caused me a lot of trauma, but I still love them so much. I don't think you're coming off whiny. No, you're not coming off whiny at all. And you know, I don't think this is a common experience, but I also, especially for many immigrants, don't think you're coming off whiny no you're not whining at all and you know i don't think this is a common experience but i also especially for many immigrants don't think it's an uncommon experience right people that come from another country and like you know their parents

come with a perspective of a life that like i was saying earlier is much harder and the opportunities are much more limited and so they come here and they're like they're pushing their children so hard i don't think out of anything probably out of anything but love right like they want their children to have more opportunities a better life than they had right of course but it's just the way they go about it is harsh to many americans because people that are born here don't realize how well they they have it right yeah i think that and i talk about this a lot even with pregnancy like you can simultaneously say how it is but also be grateful so you can simultaneously be grateful for your childhood and grateful for

your parents but also still talk about what really happened and how it affected you I think we're at this place now where you have to be like everything has to be like one side or the other side I feel we can you can have two emotions at once. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, but it's mixed emotions, you know? Totally fine. Because I'm like, I'm so grateful.

They gave up so much for me. And then I'm like, but I resent them so much in some ways. Why couldn't they just be nice to me? Why couldn't they just throw me one, I love you when I was small? I think that it probably has made you an incredible mother. I'm just going to guess. That's what we see.

Well, now I smother my children. I'm like, how are you? How was your day? How do you feel? Let's use our feeling words. Are we excited? Are we anxious? And they're like, mom, you know, like we swing the other way.

They're pretty cute. And they look very, very smart. They seem very smart. They're a little too smart sometimes. Like, are they going to Cornell at 15? I will will not allow i want them to have a normal childhood i also don't want them dating an 18 year old when they're 15 so i expect to keep them under my watchful eye locked down until they're really 18 and go off to college we get it michael gets it too so what's the main reason or motivation to go on Housewives? After all of this,

knowing all of this about you, then you said, okay, I'm going to take a full left turn and I'm going to go on national TV on Bravo. I just thought I want to do something that no one expects of me because my whole life I've done everything pretty, pretty perfect. And if I tell my friends that I'm going to join Housewives, they'll be like, what? You're joking. And I was like, I'm going to surprise everyone. I'm going to give everyone my middle finger, you know? And I, and also I was flattered at being given the opportunity because when I was having zoom interviews with the producers and stuff like that, honestly, I never in a million years thought that they would pick me. I would have cast you right away. I never, I was like, and just so you guys

know, I'm a full-time doctor and I intend to keep working during filming. So you're going to have to make accommodations around my working schedule. And they're like, okay, okay. And I was like, and just so you know, I'm not going to take off my clothes and do tequila shots

and like be drunk and stupid on TV. So, you know, and I was like, you know, during the interview and I was like, they're not going to pick me. They're not going to pick me. They're not going to pick me. So then whenever they picked me, it was like the popular boy in high school, like asking me out. And I was like, is this a joke? Like, OK, I'll go on a date with you, you know.

And then when I told my friends, they were like, no way you're not going to do that show. They're like, you don't even watch TV. Do you even know what that show is about? I was like, they follow you around. It's a reality TV reality tv show how bad could it be did they reach out to you yeah they reached out to you yeah i want to go back before we get into housewives because i have 100 questions and i wanted you to tell us the first time that you put someone to sleep because your job is it's a very interesting job. It's eerie.

It's eerie. It freaks me out every time I have to go under anesthesia. It's kind of fun though to go under anesthesia, let's be honest. Oh yeah, it's like a controlled high. Yeah, it's kind of- Under the medical supervision of a highly trained anesthesiologist.

Yeah, Michael, it's kind of fun. Can I be honest? What I freak out about is like, what are they doing to me when I'm out like that? I don't want to know. I don't know whatever surgery you're supposed to be having. I know, but what if they're like touching my ear or doing something weird? We're not touching your ear.

I'm not, you know, giving you a facial or waxing your eyebrows. I had a 16-hour... I think I saw that Seinfeld back in the day, you know, when they're like... Messing with you, yeah. I had a 16-hour surgery for my jaw. No, it wasn't 16. Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

No, no, it wasn't 16. You're under anesthesia too long. It was a long surgery. It was like six hours almost. It was like... I thought it was 16. No, you'll't 16. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't 16. It was, you're under anesthesia too long. It was a long surgery. It was like six hours almost. It was like, oh, to the point. I thought it was 16. No, tell me, you'll be able to know. Oh, you're going to take my thunder?

I thought it was 16. Wait, can you be under? I mean, you can. We've done 16 hours. I think it was. But that seems. I was there. I was in real time.

He was waiting for you. So he knows exactly how long because he was in the waiting room. I loved you, but 16 hours I would have had to jet. I think it was. Is she dead? Is she going to wake up from now? It was a good run. I thought it was 16,

but maybe it was nine. No, it wasn't nine. It wasn't nine either. Okay. It wasn't nine. It was five and a half. No, it wasn't five and a half. I promise you it was five and a half.

What did they do to you for five and a half hours? They had to break my entire jaw and put it back together. Did you have a Laforte fracture? No. Masio, Maxio. Maxil facial? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Let's see what, what five hour surgery five and a half wait yeah so but here's not nine not 16 when you

put the person to sleep like if you put me to sleep for that surgery do you leave the room are you done no you never leave one time i had a diarrhea so bad and i had to call my friend and was like girl you gotta come to or4 like right right now, I'm going to shit my pants. I had bad sushi or something. You have to. You cannot leave. You cannot leave. Don't tell me this story

because I can't. Now I'm going to be thinking like, I'm going to ask, you know, anytime I'm going, I'm going to ask the anesthesiologist, you got to shit, you got a problem.

No, we shit in between cases. That's why I'm chronically dehydrated because I don't. I swear, like you cannot leave. either you or if you're working with a resident or a nurse anesthetist somebody anesthesia wise is at the bedside at all times this profession is so intriguing to me because it's the like I'm I'm so scared of hospitals and needles and all this stuff so it's like'm like, almost want to like look at the car accident. If that makes sense. No, I, okay. So when I was filming my work, obviously did not

let us film, but I'm like, why can't we do a medical show where we just film people going into anesthesia and surgery? I would love it. There's so many plastic surgery shows and they show the plastic surgery. I mean, it's pretty graphic, you know, there's like a viewer advisory or whatever, but how come they never show people being put to sleep with anesthesia and we put the breathing tube in and we're doing extra IVs and I'm transfusing blood? How come that's not shown? Like we've got no cred. Like I want a medical show where like the anesthesiologist is shown to not just the plastic surgeon. What was the first time that you put someone to sleep and did you get a high off putting someone to sleep? Okay. So there was the first time that you put someone to sleep and did you get a high off putting someone to sleep? Okay, so there was the first time that I did it as a resident like under the supervision of my attending person

And then there's the first time I did it by myself by myself where i'm like, oh shit like i'm now i'm the attending, you know, one day you graduate from residency and like All of a sudden you're you know, magically smarter You know what though after hearing you talk and hearing your story if anyone's putting me under Thank you i hope you never need my services but if you do i would love to help you and i put someone to sleep and and this is the thing it is not hard to put someone to sleep michael jackson's doctor put him to sleep he just didn't wake his ass up the hard part is maintaining homeostasis and then waking you up after you've just had this six or nine

hour surgery and you're comfortable and we've just taken out a tumor out of your ovary or taken out your entire uterus or fix your broken femur and but you're in the recovery room and you feel okay i mean you're a little loopy right you're in a little bit of pain but like that's a cool fucking magic trick i think and you're what you do you watch all of these surgeries i assume because you're there yep you've seen it all i've seen it nothing grosses you out oh my god i love the gorier the better nothing if we were allowed to eat in the or i would just have a snack shut the fuck up no you would not i would i, guts does not gross me out. I started crying the other day because I had to get my finger pricked.

I would have rolled my eyes so hard if I was with you. I was crying because I had to get my finger pricked. She can't even draw blood or anything. Like a prick of my finger. Oh my God. I have Vasco. Vaso bagel. Vaso bagel.

So you're like going to hit the floor. For you to say that you would eat in the surgery room. Like I'm about to faint on camera. Like I've seen everything. I've seen shredded limbs like amputations where like it wasn't meant to be an amputation. But the car accident and the door like severed someone's leg and there's like little bits hanging. I've seen people try to kill themselves, but they didn't kill themselves. And so they come in bleeding.

I've seen shooting stabbings. I saw a man impaled on a fence like he fell off the roof but then the fence was pointy and he like impaled himself on like a flirty lee i was like oh that's a pretty flirty i like that i might do that for my front yard and my friend was like bitch pay attention i was like oh yeah more units of i've transused like 120 units of blood to one person before what's the most common accident that we should all watch out for that's super random, that you see a lot, surprisingly? I mean, it's all car accidents. A lot of car accidents.

It's all car accidents. It's a lot of texting and driving. And drinking and driving, sadly. Drinking and driving. Because anyone who comes in through the trauma bay gets a UTOX. So we know your blood ethanol level, and we know if blood ethanol level and we know if you've been smoking snorting you know anything so or if someone hits you and you're

the victim of that like what like if you get hit and it's someone who has been drinking and driving or drinking and driving or doing drugs yeah with uber though it's got it's not getting any better how is it not getting better i don't, but I work at a trauma hospital. So like my view is like really skewed, right? Because like I just see trauma all day long. How do you detach from that when you go home? It's hard. You make TikToks and hang out with your kids

and you have to sort of like leave it at the door. Like when I take off my scrubs, I have to tell myself like, self, you know, don't worry. Like, and then sometimes i check on my patients from surgery from two days ago because i'm like did that lady make it or not like i'm just curious because i took care of her for six hours after her car accident so two days later i want to see if she's you know okay or not and sometimes they're not okay do you

ever get attached to the patient no because i don't know them personally like i don't i don't talk to them i don't know i mean like i don't i don't talk to them i don't know i mean sometimes because this i have domestic violence victims and i know their backstories and stuff like that or cancer patients and i you know met their families and gave them hugs and stuff but i try i chose anesthesia specifically because i'm bad with feelings i was gonna ask you why you chose like with everything you learned, why that was the... Yeah, because I wanted so bad to be a dermatologist

because I love skincare. I could talk skincare all day long. But when I did my dermatology rotation and you're in clinic and you biopsy moles and you're prescribing Accutane to pimply teenagers and I was just like, this is so boring. And then I did anesthesia

and they brought in a gunshot wound and I was like, yeah this is so boring. And then I did anesthesia and they brought in like a gunshot wound. And I was like, yeah, let's transfuse blood. Let's give pressers like let's put in a central line. And I was like, oh, this is it. It's like when you meet the love of your life and you're like, this is the person I'm going to marry. When I did my anesthesia rotation, I was like, this is the medical specialty I'm going to marry. Like, I just loved it. When the person is in surgery and you, okay, so say you've distributed the anesthesia, the person's in surgery, do you get to sit back and relax? Or are you watching the monitors like a psycho?

Or are you like involved in the surgery? Like, what are you doing? I'm not involved in the surgery at all, like not scrubbed in. So there's like a shield sort of at the patient's neck. We call that the blood brain barrier. And I watch the surgery sometimes if it's interesting, sometimes it's not. I watch the monitor like a hawk. And the longer you do it, like before I used to watch the monitor, like every three minutes, the blood pressure cycles and I would just stare at it and like freak out. But now that I've been doing anesthesia for like 14 years, like I can like sort of watch

the monitor with one eye and like talk about my weekend plans with the surgeon with my other eye, you know, and there's a medical student usually that's with me. And so I'm like teaching them stuff and I'll open up. We have a Pyxis machine, which is like a little robot looking thing that has like a hundred drugs in it. So I'll open a drawer and start pimping the medical student. When we ask medical students questions, we call it pimping, not like, you know, has nothing to do with sex. So I'll open up a drawer of the Pyxis and be like, what's this drug? What are the indications for its use? Tell me it's pharmacokinetics. What are its adverse effects? So I'll start asking, you know, because during surgery, sometimes in the middle of a long surgery, as the surgeons are working,

we're on a little bit of autopilot. I'm not going to lie to you. But then sometimes we hit some turbulence and that's why I'm there. I always say I'm there for when the times are tough, not when we're on autopilot and everyone's kicking in, there's music going on, and we're just working along. I almost feel like your childhood of how you had to detach and just focus on your studies has made you an incredible anesthesiologist Yeah, because you're able to detach when you go home from it. Yes, and also it's like You're in charge and i'm super ocd like I like my things the way I like them

I like my drugs labeled and lined up exactly how I like them And I set up my case the same every single day. Like I could, you could blindfold me and I could like reach for drugs. Cause I know exactly where I put them. What makes a really good doctor, medical student anesthesiologist? Like where can you,

when, when you spot someone and you're like, that's going to be a damn good doctor. Conscientiousness. What do you mean? Like reading the room, like being able to have good judgment. It's like I can't describe it, but when I see it, like I know it.

Because there are some medical students and I'm like, please don't go into anesthesia. Like you'd make a great internist. Please stay in clinic. And I don't mean that in like a derogatory way, but anesthesia, you have to think quickly on your feet. You basically have to treat and diagnose a problem simultaneously. If you're one of those people that needs to sit down, marinate over something, that's not good for anesthesia. So you're decisive?

Yes, but correctly decisive, not wrongly decisive. Yeah, I don't think you just want to be decisive. What is something that would surprise us about anesthesiology and being put under like is there anything that like you think that the consumer the customer doesn't know do i want to know i don't know if i want to know anesthesia is so safe now because of the monitoring technology and drugs that we have that you are more likely to die in a car accident on a freeway than you are under general anesthesia that's good that's okay more likely to die in a car accident on a freeway than you are under general anesthesia.

Well, that's good. That makes me feel better. Okay, but here's the question. And when did this technology kick in? Like, it's been, yeah, this is not like yesterday.

Like, is this like 10 years? Yeah, yeah. 10, 20 years, yeah. I notice after I get anesthesia, anesthesia, anesthesia, I can get depressed. And I,

this is my theory. This is the Lauren Everett's theory. It's going to be based on no medical reasoning. I think that it constipates you. And so all the toxins from it get stuck inside of you and you don't have them exit your body. So I think, and this is Dr. Lauren, that you should have a stool softener afterwards to make sure that that you have the anesthesia exit your body you are actually not wrong dr lauren but i will clarify

for your listeners because generally when you go under general anesthesia which means you're completely asleep that's like the most common type we give you opioids which are pain medications the most common of which is fentanyl which is now known because people like do it in the streets for fun. Not good. Don't do that, kids. When you take any kind of opioids such as fentanyl, that constipates you. You have opioid receptors in your bowel. So anytime you have general anesthesia, which contain opioids, the bowels are going to be a little slow. You're going to be a little bit backed up. So you should take a stool softener and you should drink extra water.

You can never go wrong drinking extra water. Basically, I've decided that the answer to every problem in life is to drink more water. Except when you're pregnant. Maybe have a magnesium supplement. Yeah, magnesium. Yeah, magnesium. That does work.

Yeah. Of course. Oh, that does work. Well, the threonate will not do it. But if you have glycinate yeah thank you dr michael so you are actually on to something i think every doctor should prescribe a stool softener yes is that weird i really do when you have anesthesia you should take a stool softener yeah that's my public and probably if you had any kind of abdominal

whatever the last thing you want to be doing is straining on the toilet after you just had any sort of like c-section hysterectomy you know girl surgery or abdominal surgery because you don't want to be straining on your sutures see dr lauren i give you i hereby declare you an honorary md thank you wow thank you you know what you said podcasting good now you're a doctor you know what you said on the show that really stuck with me huh you said that you when you come home from your work you go into a different house like a guest house and you shower and take all your clothes off and take your shoes off before you even enter your house if michael wears shoes into a doctor's appointment with me i will not like he is not allowed to even touch a toe reasoning because i think that there's a lot of germs at hospitals and doctor's offices that i don't want in my house is it true that you like

strip your clothes like everything gets like that's the reason you do it or you just well it's an energy thing it was a covid thing it started when covid happened and so i every morning at six o'clock in the morning and the shower is attached to my garage so we have a five-car garage and then an extra garage that was supposed to be the sixth garage that we turned into a shower so that when we have playdates with my kids in the summer and they have swimming parties the little wet feet stay outside. Yeah, that's a great idea. Take notes, Michael. It's a whole bathroom.

I don't need your wet toenails. Yeah, I was like, we don't need a sixth garage. Just make it into a bathroom shower. So I would do decontamination shower, which was one to wash any COVID particles that may have come home with me. But also, too, it was kind of like this mental like washing away the day like it was a bad day we lost a patient or a patient had a mass and we open them up and do the biopsy and then we get what's called a frozen section in the middle of surgery and it comes back from pathology in like 30 45 minutes and it's cancer so we close like it's done so we're not doing the

surgery because they it's it's it's everywhere so we close can't spread done. So we're not doing the surgery because they, it's, it's, it's everywhere. So we close spread it. Right. So then, you know,

I had a bad day. So the decontamination shower is both for physical and mental reasons. So I can like take off my clothes, take off my day, wash it away and then put on fresh clothes and come inside and hug all my kids and things like that. But we always take off our shoes when we come inside the house. I don't care where you've been. When I was pregnant, my number one craving, and I don't want to make your mouth water, but I will,

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at eatdough.com. That's spelled E-A-T-D-E-U-X.com. Promo code skinny for 20% off. Go buy that drip spread. Okay. I'm telling you. They just launched nationwide at Target and you can find them by the rest of the refrigerated cookie doughs. Trust me, it's to die for. Go get the chocolate spread. Thank me later. Let's go off on a tangent about this before we get into Housewives K. I do not want shoes in my house. And this is my pet peeve and I'm putting it up and I hope we can pull this clip to put on my Instagram story. I don't like shoes in my house. Everyone knows that.

When you're going to take your shoes off though, what is with the people that step in my house to take their shoes off to leave their shoes in my house? Can we just take the shoes off before we enter the house? No, you got to get like a bench or something. I have a bench. I have a bench. Outside? Yes, I have a bench. It's a little bit of a chair situation.

I think in the foyer area, that can be the shoe removal area. I don't love the foyer area. Can't we just take them off outside? No, I don't think that's polite. But then they're expensive shoes. Yeah, that's not polite. And it's hot outside. And there's like...

You know what? Lauren, that's not culture. I don't have a foyer. No, that's not culture. I don't have a foyer. Yeah, you got a little foyer. Can I get a... I do not have a foyer i don't have a foyer yeah you got a little foyer could i get i do not have a foyer it's an entry it's an entry i would love a foyer and a deconamination show you can't you can't make people so you think it's okay for them to step in the house and take

the shoes off that's my preferred method to come inside welcome and then please take off your shoes i thought you were like inside the air conditioning though sometimes you have boots and there's laces and it's all that stuff and it's like kind of like i feel like it's like almost a little rude to be like oh you can't even come inside until you don't have it so it's like oh hi welcome how are you please take your shoes off what about a booty okay so you can take your there's three choices okay you can take off your shoes and you can keep your socks or bare feet whatever if you got some stanky ass feet because you know who you are stanky ass feet people there is a booty that you can it's like a shoe cover disposable that you can wear or i have this

machine where you step on it and it's like a saran wrap and then ours doesn't work mine mine must be shitty i don't know you must have got the bootleg version yeah i think i got the bootleg but that the the saran wrap thing doesn't work if you're in stilettos because it kind of like punctures through the saran wrap. Okay, I think I got the bad one. Wait, so do you have like a little basket of shoe covers? Yes, and it's cute. I made it cute.

And next to it is a cute trash can. So that on their way out, when they're putting their shoes back on, where there's a bench. Okay, so you need, I'm going to set it up for y'all. You need a back on where there's a bench okay so you need this is i'm going to set it up for y'all go you need a foyer okay you need a bench you need a cute basket okay that's labeled shoe covers we need to take you need a trash can next to it so that they can dispose of

them on their way out you need the saran wrap thing where they can step on it and like saran wrap just the bottom of their feet it sounds like your anesthesiologist kit but i'm gonna get my arms around this and transition to the next subject. No, I just have one more thing to say. No, but it's over. No, I have to call you out. The worst, though, is when he tiptoes across the floor

with his tennis shoes on and says, I have to run across real quick. Well, I'm not playing like hot lava, you know? No, he's playing hot lava. He tries to run across real quick because he has to grab something. No, I had on cute boots that took like five minutes to put on and then realized i forgot something so

i just did it on all fours i was like crawling on the floor to go get you know what and i made a tiktok of it i was like when you have your shoes on but you forgot your you know lipstick you got two options in this you gotta crawl you got two options option one I gotta run across in the shoes once in a while Option two We're signing the divorce papers We're moving on You gotta crawl You can crawl

I'm not crawling I will move on from this subject After I say this When you go outside You are stepping on fecal matter I'm not stepping in fecal matter I don't know what you think I'm stepping It's piss

In the hospitals Who knows what you're stepping on Blood It's like C. diff You're stepping on blood it's like cd you're stepping on barbie's hair that's come out of mr jones's asshole no you and i are walking in different places if you're in la you're stepping on heroin needle syringe if you're on new york in the subway forget it i don't live in new york or la i live in beautiful texas where the land is i could almost deal with that on the ground in my house but here's the thing my daughter sits on the floor oh my i put my feet

on the floor yeah it's like the dog our dog is a chihuahua it's this close to the floor it's gross like can we just if you don't move on from this subject all right all right okay housewives housewives okay so you get on housewives. Yes. What's your immediate reaction to all the women right away? Like, did you like someone more? Did you like someone less? Was it good energy? I thought that this was going to be the sleepover that I never had. You know, you should have called me. I would have told you I have some strategies. I had no strategy. My strategy was to be myself and try to have a good time. I mean, it worked. Some people were more welcoming than others.

What hurt is that the way they film it is like you do something, you're at a party, people are nice, people are not nice, whatever. And then you watch that three months later. So then you watch that after someone was just nice, nice to you, they went to a table over here and talk shit about you. And you're watching that three months later and you're like, damn, I didn't know she said that. You know what I mean? Like, that's not normal.

We don't have that normal human experience to like zoom out and see the way someone, right? Like it was so weird. And they may not even know that moment's captured and then they have to answer for it right oh they know it's captured we're miked and there's a cameraman in my face like you know it's being kept anyone that was like i forgot i was being filmed really bitch there's seven cameras here are they welcoming or is it like bratty sorority bratty sorority so it's like kind of like hard to become integrated into the culture franchise i have no idea she's only She's only done Dallas. How would she know?

I felt like I was being hazed a little, like a pledge, having to prove that I really wanted to join the sorority. You know what, though? The audience is so savvy

of that show. They are. And they know. They do. They will call it out as they see it. That's the thing that I think a lot of

these housewives forget is that the audience is way smarter than you think. Yeah. And they're sussing and being like, why are these girls being so bitchy to the newcomer? So I feel like the audience knows that the audience is very savvy. What was a moment in time where you were like, I wish I didn't do this show because I feel like you had ups and downs. It wasn't until like at least halfway through the season, probably two thirds of the way through the season that I actually let loose and like enjoyed myself. My first cast trip was incidentally to Austin.

We drove an RV. It was just terrible. Like D'Andra and Carrie were screaming at each other like at the dinner table. And I just did not know that like two people could cuss each other out and scream over a dinner table like that severely. You know, I was shocked i just i just hit a breaking point and you have to remember while we were filming was in the middle of the pandemic and i was working full-time not missing

a single day of work so i was pulling about 40 to 50 hours at the hospital and filming um and you're seeing a real life crisis in the hospital and i was int And you're seeing real life crisis. In the hospital. I was intubating COVID positive patients. Who were in respiratory distress. And that's why I was being called to intubate them. So like I definitely had COVID particles in my face. You know what I mean?

And then I'm filming. And then they're like oh. And then this Friday to Sunday. You're going to go to Austin. And I was like but I want to spend time with my family. I've barely seen my kids this week. Like, I literally have barely seen my kids this week. Like, I don't remember the last date night I've had with my husband.

Like, it's not good. And they're like, nope, you're going to Austin this weekend. And I just, it just, and then the women were mean to me. And I just, like, you could just see it. Like, I just had it. And in that moment that we, like, oh, well, we're supposed to jump in the lake as a, you know, thing. I was like, I'm done.

I'm out of here. They tried to throw you in the pool. There was something with the pool. What was the pool? Carrie pushed me into a swimming pool with all my clothes on, like on episode two or something. That's dangerous.

I can't swim. That's what it was. You can't swim and she pushed you in the pool. I mean, I wasn't going to die. I could stand in the pool. So I'm not going to be like dramatic and say that she tried to kill me because I could stand up in the pool. But she knew that I couldn't swim. And her and Cameron had like, you know, devised this funny thing to push Tiffany into the pool with all my clothes on.

And it was a new dress. And it was expensive. Your hair is like beautifully curled. Like you don't push someone in the pool that looks like this. It was a mean girl thing. You just don't do that and then the chicken foot episode which i feel like you have to talk about because that became a whole thing the whole season and michael i don't know if you know i know about it okay if i had known that something that i eat for brunch like on a

normal basis with my children would become like this thing you know like it was chicken feet gate i would not have brought them to dim sum know like it was chicken feet gate i would not have brought them to dim sum i wish you brought me chicken foot i would love to try that i'm gonna we might have tried it in beijing but i would have loved to have tried it it actually looks really good of collagen and it's like sweet it's like barbecue it tastes like barbecue it's really good for your skin too yeah it's collagen it's full of collagen okay so there was like a judgmental undertone over a chicken so of course again kind of an uncultured moment like as an american right

showing like hey you know a very worldly person don't really understand cuisines and and in in their defense like they wanted to make it a moment they were like make her eat a chicken foot make her eat a chicken foot you know and i'm like she doesn't want to eat a chicken foot they're like but make her it'll be fun you know we are trying to film a TV show, right? Okay. So I'm kind of being very pushy with my chicken foot, you know, offerings. And, you know, she's being a little dramatic with her refusal of the chicken foot, you know, ends up putting it on the floor. And then all was fine. Actually, that to me was the end of chicken feet.

But you didn't care if she didn't eat it. I didn't give a shit if she ate a chicken foot or not. And that was it. I didn't give a shit if she ate a chicken foot or not. And that was it. I thought it was done. Okay, but then when the show airs three months later, she posts a picture on social media that says chicken feet, no thanks. I'd rather eat dog treats.

And I was like, okay, now that's offensive. So I actually didn't care about the chicken feet thing that happened on the show. What pissed me off was when she insinuated that she'd rather eat dog food. I mean, she said she'd rather eat dog food, promoting her dog food line, of course, her own one that she owns over like my brunch that I have on my table regularly on weekends. And so I texted her and I was like, I just saw your Instagram. I think that's really rude. Like, would you please take that down? And she was like, no, she like doubled down. You know how sometimes like you mess up and you're like, oh my God, I didn't know that people

would take it like that. Like, you're right. Thank you for bringing that to my attention or something like that. But she doubled down. And then that's when it got ugly. So then we just started volleying Twitter insults at each other left and right. And what was the audience saying? Like, were they defending you? Yes. They're like, there are politer ways to refuse the food. I thought you were the queen, self-proclaimed queen of etiquette. Do you put food on the table of a restaurant? Do you think that's proper etiquette? And then some people didn't get it because some people were like, I don't like chicken feet either. Does that make me a racist and i'm like no no no no no like actually honey like this isn't even about chicken feet anymore you you you were upset

that they insulted the cuisine right is that or of the or the or the culture yes that she it's like oh this is gross why would a certain group of people do this right it's almost like there was a judgmental like dirty undertone yes that's what i got from it was like which by the way if you're a chicken feet here i'll be eating them right now i want some collagen for the baby yeah and i actually don't care at all about the chicken feet. It's just that she like manipulated the situation into being that I was offending my own culture. And then I made a TikTok about my mom throwing a shoe at me. And then she was like, I don't understand how stereotyping isn't racism. And I was like, well, first of all, it was a TikTok that was meant to be funny about

an experience that I actually had as a child. Like my mother would throw shoes at me and my best friend's Mexican. And she was like, hell yeah, girl, la chancla. Like everybody knows that. And, you know, she was like, I think that you're racist. And then, so this is all bad, but wait, Wait, it gets worse because her husband and his brother chime in on Twitter and call me a racist and then tag my employer. Because their daddy donates millions of dollars to my employer. And there's a chair named after their daddy because that's how donating money to hospitals works that's how you know wings of hospitals get named and chairmanships get named after people is because you donate money so they basically tried to get me fired from my job is what i'm trying to tell you and then did anything happen with that really quick well we had to get some legal assistance

involved and then that's all i can say like that's up until the part that I can say is that then I had to get my lawyers involved. So you're filming this show. I never understand why the husbands get involved. This was going down. I'd be like, let's give another test. Take your shoes off in the foyer.

Okay. Also, if you're a husband on housewives, yeah, I don't think it's, I don't think that like if Lauren came to me and she was in a, in a fight on one of these shows with another housewife and she came to me was mad that i didn't defend her i'll look at her be like what are you fucking nuts you see what

happens to these you know who does a good job it's weird when they get involved mauricio yes mauricio does a good job your husband did a good job too because it's not the house husband it's not your fight to fight it's a little women's silly battle yeah it makes them look kind of bitchy and don't tag my employer like what the hell dude i actually have a whole ass career that i've worked my entire life for and this is a silly little women's spat over chicken feet like we could have resolved it like you sir sit down at this point had you guys filmed the reunion yet because i know there was drama on the reunion oh my god i don't the timeline this came out guys filmed the reunion yet? Because I know there was drama on the reunion. Oh my God, I don't, the timeline. This came out right after the reunion.

Right after the reunion. So at what point do you know the show is canceled? I shot test scenes with people that I recommended. Because, okay, when all this happened, I was like, F Bravo, F this show. Like, screw you guys, I'm over. I changed my bio on Instagram. It caused this whole chain of phone calls. I was like, oh damn, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that. We shot test scenes for a potential season

six with friends, my actual real friends that I introduced. But the ratings were really low. COVID started rising again after it had sort of defervessed over the summer. They called me one day and they were like, we're just going to put it on a hiatus because we don't know if it's safe to film the ratings were super low last season New York isn't even having a reunion because something happened with them I don't know like it was just not good and I was like cool thanks like I was so relieved because I was sort of in the mindset that if they would cast my actual friends because I introduced them to two friends of mine and Deandra introduced them to one friend of hers, that it would actually be the sleepover I never had. Like we could actually have fun. I wanted a do-over basically because I had such a terrible time with this cast.

And it wasn't because I was working as a doctor and filming took a lot of time and i didn't get to see my kids and husband as much it wasn't even that it was that i felt like i joined the wrong cast like that if the people had been different we would have had a good time as an avid professional housewife watcher i would agree with you i told you that off air that i that i think maybe the cast wasn't a fit not that it's not a great cast i think there's some great people on the cast i just think i like i think if you had joined beverly hills or new york i could see you and do in new york because you said you're from you lived in new york yeah like i feel like there would have been more synergy but what i will say is you were only on one season but you made a huge impact and

sometimes people like there's people that they're that have been on new york for one season and i don't even remember their name do you know what i mean yeah like you did make an impact and the audience really did love you now we're gonna hear from those people great no no i mean look i have haters too i'm not gonna sit here and pretend that i don't have haters like i if for anyone to go on tv and think that a hundred percent of people who watch them are going to love them would be narcissism by the way that's life too not everyone's gonna like you right and i everyone loves michael though like how could you not love this guy of course i mean come on honestly i'm okay with everything that happened people who don't like me think that i'm too uppity

i got in trouble for talking about my nine toilets i'm too stuck up how many times is she gonna mention she's a doctor you know i hate her voice why does she talk like that like i don't know i don't know this is this is what my parents told me that good english sounded like i must have been trying to like imitate you know perfect English. And I decided that it was this valley girl voice. I don't know. I love the voice. By the way, can we stop insulting people for their voice, too? It's their voice.

Like, are you going to insult, like… A little close to home there. Well, yeah, people insult me for my voice, too. Me, too. This is my voice. Don't listen. I know. Turn it off.

This one hit a nerve. I'm like, do you not like my nose, too? You don't like my voice too You don't like my voice You don't like my nose Am I gaining too much weight Let's be constructive With our criticism If it's something that

Maybe I say like too much Right Okay Yeah I could like adjust that Right Like like As you said like

Yeah But the way I speak Like what do you want me to do I know Do you want me to I know I have a nasally I've been told.

They're like, are you from the valley? Because you sure sound like it. It's like insulting a guy for their penis size. They can't do anything about it. I think that does happen, though. Yeah, but it is what it is. I don't insult anyone for their penis size. But also strangers are insulting me for my voice.

But like a stranger can insult you for your penis size because they haven't seen it. Right. Maybe I should just show your penises because we have to show our voice i mean what's her mom of so and so and so and so wants him to show his genitals show your genitals right now hashtag show your genitals i think that this is a sexual assault are you do you feel safe right now michael lauren lauren's making me feel very unsafe wink twice if you feel unsafe my eyes are i'm blinking a lot right now. He's seizing right now, you guys.

No one cares what his emotions are. Moving right along. Next topic, please. Tell us something really that would surprise us about housewives that's juicy. Like something that we don't know. Maybe like they film for 16 hours and they only take an hour. They don't pay for shit. They don't pay for any of your outfits any of your

glam only when you're doing those confessionals like in the chair they pay for the hair and makeup for when you're doing that but the parties that you throw the cute outfits that you have to wear i mean you don't have to but i mean you're gonna go on on Bravo like wearing some basic. No, you're not. Makeup, hair. Because they say that's your choice to wear a cute outfit and to have your hair and makeup done. So they don't pay for any of that. And I lost money my first season of Housewives because of the outfits, the hair and makeup, and the lawyer that I had to hire. But you gained money. Look at this

transition. You gained money because of your candle company and your wine company, which you need to tell us about. Yes. I am a real big fan of your candles. Oxytocin is sitting lit right now for humans who need a little push. Yep. Tiffany Moon, I love it. Well, being that you're pregnant, sometimes when you're in labor and you need a little extra help, the OB nurses will give you something called Pitocin, which is oxytocin. Pit and oxytocin are the same thing. It's like the generic name and the trade name. So that's why it's for humans who need a little push. So all of the aromastasia candles have taglines, just like a good housewife. All right, guys, this one is exciting. Very exciting for me personally, because I have been waiting for the right partner to talk about this particular subject. And that is, where do you

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Again, use code skinny at checkout for 20% off your first purchase. Enjoy. What are the candles? Like what is each one? there's four right there are 20 wow i bought overachiever i should have known sorry excuse me hold on the overachiever there are 20 but i brought you the four that i thought you would enjoy most because oxytocin um because one you're pregnant and two that i know that you're very sex positive and we all know that oxytocin, because one, you're pregnant, and two, that I know that you're very sex positive. And we all know that oxytocin is the hormone that's released when you have an orgasm,

which everyone should be having, hopefully on a regular basis. So I wanted to give you that one. The other one is Ondansetron, which when I was pregnant, I took all the time because it's for morning sickness. It's Zofran. Ondansetron is Zofran.

And then I brought you rosé champagne because right now you can't drink, but I thought at least you could smell a rosé champagne candle. And then the last one is botulinum, which is Botox.

Perfect. Because who doesn't have a little Botox in their face? And who doesn't miss a little Botox in their face? You can't get it

when you're pregnant. You can't do anything when you're pregnant. I know. I'm not saying this, but you can get Botox when you're pregnant you can't do anything when you're pregnant i know you i'm not saying this but you can get botox when you're pregnant but i'm not saying that she didn't say that i didn't say that and and i that's not medically a little bit of wine last night i didn't say that either i okayed it with my doctor yeah so okay your wine tell us about your wine and i want to do a giveaway with your candles if that's okay. Yes. So the wine is called Three Moons Wine. And actually, we created it in 2009 because my husband and I would take

trips to Napa all the time because we were long distance. He lived in Dallas. I was doing anesthesia residency in San Francisco. And so he would come visit every other weekend or something. And we'd just take a little weekend trip to Napa. That's where he proposed to me. And I know. It's like our little love spot and so we ended up making friends with a winemaker who had excess juice off of his vineyard so we made our own private label wine

but we don't own like an actual vineyard we don't have a tasting room anything like that and it's small production so we've been doing it for over 10 years you have the most beautiful wine room in your house though she's like you know the wine room that's at rancho valencia if you if you haven't been there in san diego it reminds me of your wine room okay you know what i'm talking about right i'm gonna have to go up and check it out i'll be up there next weekend it's um it's we have 2 000 bottles of wine in an underground cellar that's temperature and humidity controlled it also almost looks like the earth on the show at least. Yeah.

It's like the earth made this room. It's really cool. Because we dug into the earth because it's the basement. And so we thought instead of hiding the fact that we're underground right now,

let's showcase it. So we put glass and like up lighting. That's cool. To see the earth that like in, so it feels like you're in a cave. So we call it the wine cave.

I'm going to make a confession. This is my second manipulation of the podcast. The first one was the shoe covers. If you go back into shoes, I'm just going to. No, this is the second one because I want in my next house a wine cellar with the uplit lighting, with the clear, with the earth made it situation. Just so you know. I'm on board for that.

Okay. Oh, good. Yeah, that's easy. That's not even an inventory. If you had to. Easy, I'll give. Just so you know. I'm on board for that. Okay. Oh, good. That's easy. That's not even an invention. If you had to leave our audience with a pick of what wine they should drink and what candle they should drink, if they could pick one of each, what would you do? You're going to drink a candle?

I mean, which wine? A candle you would light and which wine you would drink. Oh, my gosh. My favorite actually right now is the oxytocin because it's lychee pear. And I think that's like a good spring scent. In the fall i like more like cinnamon clove earthy kind of scents so i i switch my scents by season or by my mood there's one candle that i like to light that like when my husband sees that one lit is

like he knows his own i don't even have to tell him anymore you know is it a bj candle is it the oxytocin it's it's called hella paradol it's the h candle we've nicknamed it sexy time candle because if that one's lit like it's about to go down that one's lit i should have brought you that one she went out into her outdoor shower she showered off she has her fucking shoe covers on she's yeah yeah and what about the wine and the wine right now i'm loving the sauvignon blanc because it's hot outside and that wine i keep in the fridge like cold cold cold and then not to be unclassy or anything but i pour it in my Yeti tumbler so it stays cold. Love it.

Because I don't like it when it's in a regular glass. And then like 20 minutes later, it's room temperature. That's Texas classy. I like that. I like the Yeti in the wine. I gave you an ice roller that you need to ice roll your face while you have your candle lit drinking your cold Yeti Savion. I'm going to make a TikTok about living my best life while having a candle lit, rolling my face and drinking.

Perfect. Multitasking at its finest. Where can everyone find you? Pimp yourself out. Tell us where to get your candles, your wine, follow you. You have an incredible TikTok. I am on TikTok and Instagram and Twitter,

although not much at Tiffany Moon MD, the same name across all the platforms. And my candles are on my website, TiffanyMoonMD.com. And we give a portion of proceeds away to the largest provider of domestic violence services in Texas, which I'm really proud of. And the candles all have taglines. They all have indications for use, like if anyone has ever told you that you have a resting bitch face. Yeah, they're fun. It was a passion project. I never really thought that it would become a business.

And I'm so, so just grateful that my friends and followers have embraced my candle business. And they get the humor that comes through they get that i poured premium ingredients into these candles and that you know they're triple scented essential oils no paraffin wax like these are some bougie candles is what i'm trying to say because people are like oh my god 45 for a candle and i'm like well it was a lot to make like just the glass alone is $2. She does it right. And she does it well.

This has been burning the whole show. And also. Yeah, it's a 60 hour burn time. I will say too, I really sensitive to candles that have a bunch of like chemicals in them. And this has been burning for the last hour and a half. And it's like, especially being pregnant. Yes. Like it's like everything smells. These smell so good.

Yes. pregnant yes like it's like everything smells these smell so good yes i have to tell you because the the thing that people don't do is that right before you burn a candle you're supposed to trim the wick so that it's one fourth of an inch she has a fucking wick we like long dicks not long wicks yes we like long dicks not long wicks don't don't my My mother is going to kill me. Go trademark. Oh, no. Hashtag. So, yeah, every every time before you light your candle, make sure that the wick is nice

and short because that gives you a nice even burn. I will always make sure that my wick is short, not my dick. Tiffany, thank you so much for coming on. You're so inspiring. You guys let can we do a giveaway for the exact ones you gifted me? Yes. Okay, let's do a giveaway. She gave me the top four candles she thought I would love.

All you have to do is follow your candle company. Tell us. At Aromastesia. A-R-O-M-A-S-T-E-S-I-A. It's half aromatherapy and half anesthesia. Aromastesia. It's half aromatherapy and half anesthesia. Aromasthesia. It's such a cute name. And tell us your favorite part of this episode with Tiffany on my latest Instagram at Lauren Bostic.

You can come back on. I'm also just going to put it out there that Tiffany Moon needs to be back on our screens. And you're not saying it. I am. I think it's going to happen. There are some discussions being had had i love when a housewife says that there's discussions that means there's some serious discussions that we're gonna get some juice with bravo you it's not gonna be on bravo oh okay that's fired okay oh i love it

you heard it here first yep thank you for coming on thank you for having me do you want to win some of tiffany's incredible candles? All you have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram at Lauren Bostic and stalk Tiffany on Instagram. Super easy to win. At Dear Media, we have them all over the office. The Rosé Champagne Special Edition Candle is absolutely major. Go check them out. And with that, we'll see you next time. This episode is brought to you by the Skinny Confidential. How fun. Okay, if you've not tried shaving your face, you got to try it.

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