The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Shannon Ford On Sex, Her Pregnancy, Fertility, Fear-Mongering, & Why She’s In Her Unapologetic Era

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

#845: Join us as Lauryn sits down with Shannon Ford Middleton – a college dropout turned influencer, host of Probably A Podcast, & unapologetic comedian. Known for her unfiltered humor & zero-filter approach to any topic, Shannon gets real with Lauryn about everything she’s currently navigating. From her first pregnancy to performing on the road during her standup tour Pray For Me, she doesn’t hold back. In this episode, Shannon & Lauryn dive into all things pregnancy – from spreading positivity around fertility & trusting your intuition, to embracing the emotional & physical journey of motherhood. Plus, they get real, raw, & honest about intimacy, wild pregnancy cravings, & the importance of showing up as your most authentic self!    To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Shannon Ford click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Shop the Memorial Day Sale at ShopSkinnyConfidential.com and take 20% off your favorite TSC Products – for a limited time only.   This episode is sponsored by LMNT Get yours at DrinkLMNT.com/SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Spritz Society  Spritz Society is now available everywhere! Head to spritzsociety.com to find a store near you, and make sure to follow @spritz on Instagram for all their latest announcements and upcoming events. Spritz Society, Summer Starts Here!   This episode is sponsored by Jenni Kayne  Go to jennikayne.com and use the code SKINNY15 to get 15% off.   This episode is sponsored by Nowadays Visit trynowadays.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 20% off your first purchase.    This episode is sponsored by Notion Get Notion Mail for free right now at notion.com/skinny, and try the inbox that thinks like you!   This episode is sponsored by Momentous Head to livemomentous.com and use code SKINNY for 35% off your first subscription.    Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. him and her. Shannon Ford Middleton. We're doing a solo episode on pregnancy. This is pretty candid, just to let you guys know. Shannon, if you don't know her, she's a college dropout, turned influencer. She's a podcaster. Her podcast is on Dear Media. It's called Probably a Podcast, And she's now a comedian.

I enjoyed talking to her one-on-one because it felt like we were having a very real, real life conversation on air, which is super refreshing. She also just knows how to talk on a mic. She has a stand-up tour called Pray for Me, which I am praying for her because she's doing it while she's pregnant. And you also might recognize her

from the show, Very Cavalieri. Her podcast crushes it. It's a comedy top charting podcast with over 5 million downloads. She's doing the most all while pregnant. And on this episode, she is unapologetic. Shannon, welcome to the Him and Her Show. This is the skinny the Him and Her Show. This is the skinny confidential, Him and Her.

Shannon Ford, welcome to the show. We are going to have an open, honest conversation about pregnancy. Let's do it. Okay, so we're both pregnant at the same time. We are. You're a bit further along than me. I wore like a really short Tatiana dress,

just trying to like... Show your badge. That's my vagina if you guys want to see it. You have to go on YouTube to see her full frontal. You do. I'm just kidding. So did you always know that you wanted children? Like looking back. You've always known.

Wanted children for a long time, but like truly just wanted to make sure I found the right partner. I know that's not everyone's jam. Some people are like, I could do this on my own. I could do this whenever. Like I wanted to make sure I found the right partner. I know that's not everyone's jam. Some people are like, I could do this on my own. I could do this whenever. Like I wanted to make sure I found a partner that I really, really felt confident

would be an amazing father, would be able to do this with me. And I see that in my husband. Like that was such a trait I saw when I met him. Like, oh my God, he'd be such a great father to our children. Is he treating you different in pregnancy? Well, no, he's being a lot like nicer to me.

Like he's always nice to me, of course, but he's being a lot more like, I don't know, he's really big into health and fitness. And so sometimes he'll be like, oh, don't eat that. It's got red dye. Oh, he's British by the way. That's why I'm doing the accent. And now he's kind of just like whenever in my first trimester, I couldn't eat anything and I was just smashing fast food and he'd be like, is that, do you think maybe the baby

would want something healthy? I'm like, James, it's about what I can chew and swallow right now. Chew and swallow and I'll be that. He's like, I'll give you something to chew and swallow. You better be careful of that. You really do. You really do. I mean, I just went on a week vacation and I thought my husband would leave me alone because I'm rolling around. Literally no.

No, they don't care. They don't care. They don't give a fuck. It was 12 at night when we got home from dinner. I'm fucking tired as shit. I know even on vacation, I have two little kids that are constant and they need constant ... That's not a vacation. That's a trip, Lauren.

It was a trip. They need constant stimulation all day long. And then he wants me to go to dinner and then he wants to have a night. Then he wants to stimulate you. And you're like, no, I'm not interested in this but like I'm like you I've heard you say on a podcast before that like I think it's a blessing to have a husband that wants to fuck you And so it's great. I do like of course there have been times where I'm like literally I'm sorry I'm just like no, but for the most part I try to be like this is a blessing My husband wants to fuck me and I want to fuck my husband. This is great.

But being pregnant is a whole different beast. I'm just like the first trimester, I don't, I'm not sure if we had sex during the first trimester, maybe once or twice. Like I was like down bad. I rally. You rally. I rally. I was like so nauseous.

I think it would have been a bit creepy. Like, you know what? Just, just close your eyes. I've been married a long time. Yeah. Yeah. You've been pregnant before too. I've been married a long time. Yeah, yeah.

You've been pregnant before too. I've been pregnant before, I just rally. That's really inspiring. And that's really honest. Sometimes I'm like, I really don't feel like doing this, but I do it. No, I think it was with Amanda Hirsch, she did a podcast, you're like, I'll always give him head.

I'm happy to. Always, anytime he wants it. Anytime he wants blow job Anytime he wants to blow job. That is really, that is really inspiring. It's a marriage that'll last a lifetime. This life and the next. I was in Salsa for 10 months on my knees. No, I can't relate.

Like that fucking kill me. That's, that's crazy. You gotta like set it up. You need like knee pads, like not actual knee pads, but you need something that's like, like, nice on your knees. 100%. I'm like, this doesn't have to be sexy. You'll get to the end, but like I'm going to put a pillow down. I'm going to do what I need to do to complete this task as well. It's it's you want to be as efficient and effective as possible. You want to like get

some tricks up your sleeve so you can use them like a magician. 100%. So first off, so you and your husband, when you find out you're pregnant. Yeah, very happy. He's freaking out. We were trying. So I had spoken about this on my podcast as well,

probably podcast, always plug. And it basically, we tried for six months before we got pregnant. Now I've never tried to be pregnant before. So it was a lot of just like understanding my cycle and ovulating. Like I've never really, I've never been a tracker of my cycle and of like things of that elk. And so I think it just took a while for me to understand my body in that nature. And then, you know, it was disappointing the first like you get, I know people are

gonna say at trigger warning, we tried way longer. That's not long at all. But like, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. We got it. This is the show to just. You don't have to do that. We don't need to worry about trigger warnings. Yeah, it's nice, thanks. If we trigger someone, we gotta find out why we're triggered. Yeah, yeah.

This, please speak freely to your experience. I will. No, no, I will. This was my experience. I was really disappointed every time we got a negative test. I was like, oh my God, why is it taking me so fucking long? Like, it felt like forever

because right after we got married, I was just like, I want a baby now. Like I was trying before we got married. I was like, I'll just be pregnant at the wedding. I don't care. And so was really disappointed. And then when we finally got the test, I was really hyper fixated on miscarriage. And I don't know why, I think maybe because I'm 31

and I've seen a lot of my friends and you know, people on the internet are talking about it a lot more. I think I just thought it was this thing that must just happen to everyone every time, no matter what. And so I really hyper fixated on that during the, I kind of, I wish I hadn't, because it took away a lot of the joy

on the early like weeks of my pregnancy, because I was just like, anytime I discharge or anything, I'd be like, this must be blood. And so we were really excited, but I was also just like scared the whole time, which was sad. I think that this is such an important subject to talk about and I have such a strong opinion and I've gotten so much hate on the internet about this is there is a fixation on miscarriages

and infertility. And what I would like to do on my own platform is to talk about fertility and to talk about having a healthy baby. Of course. Because there are a lot of girls between the ages of 20 and let's say like even 35 that have been fed so much content on miscarriages and infertility that there's a lack of people who are motivating and inspiring on actual amazing stories. The only thing that got me through was finding this

like Reddit hole of people that were like, cause I had a lot of cramping early on and I was just like, oh my God, this must be in a miscarriage, this must be in a miscarriage, which is actually really common symptom of your first trimester. Like a lot of shit is happening within your body. Your uterus is stretching.

Of course. And so anyways, it was just this Reddit thread of people being like, I had all these symptoms. I have a healthy 10 month old baby right now. I had all these symptoms. I now have a two month old I just had. Like it really took the success stories and the positive speaking on it

that helped me like not be so scared. So. I am of the belief that when you want something in your life, no matter what it is, you need to surround yourself with abundance. Correct. And I came out and said I got pregnant with all three of my kids on my first try. And the reason I said that is not to rub it in people's face at all.

It's the truth. It's to tell you that these stories exist. Of course. No one wants to talk about it because everyone's fucking scared to say that because they're scared they're gonna trigger someone. Right. But here's the problem. if no one talks about it and no one says all the good stories and no one says all the amazing stories

like how you're talking about you're afraid of miscarrying and now you're far along. If no one talks about that because everyone's so scared of offending someone or hurting someone's feelings, then all we're going to get fed is- The negativity. And it's not a negativity. I don't going to get fed is the negativity. And I don't, it's not

negativity. I don't even know if that's the word. It's fear mongering. It's fearful experience. Correct. So the reason I decided to come out and say that is because I want a 22 year old who's listening, who doesn't want to get pregnant until she's 34 to hear me talk about that and be like, okay, I don't need to worry. I don't need to think about a miscarriage the second I get pregnant. Yeah. And a lot of talk, there's so, so, so much talk. People ask me all the time and you guys, I was literally 30, like an engaged and they were like, are you thinking about freezing your eggs? And I was like, no, I just, I wasn't down that rabbit hole.

I wasn't, I wasn't constantly consuming content that was like better freeze your eggs, better freeze your eggs. I wasn't consuming that. So in my mind, I was like, I'm 30. Why do I need to freeze my eggs? And listen, everyone do whatever you want to do, of course. But for me, I think I wasn't consuming that. So it didn't infiltrate my brain and make me think like,

I better freeze my eggs. Like you're 30, bitch, you can have a baby. I also think that if you every single month had been like, oh my God, I can't get pregnant. I can't get pregnant. I can't get pregnant. That tape is rolling through your head and your narrative all day long. All night. Of course, any time I've told myself I can't do something, it doesn't happen.

Yeah. And there was like a moment where I was like Googling, like, what point do you go to an infertility doctor? And I was like, I'm not going to one because I know if I step foot into that office, it'll be in my mind. like I cannot do this on my own. It's a business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a business. Of course. So like, I got so much hate,

like thousands of comments being like, oh my God, we have to see the pendulum on the other side too. A lot of people have had a lot of successful stories. People have gotten pregnant. I know there's the housewife, Boz, I think. She's talking about getting pregnant at 48 right now. There's just also nothing wrong with sharing your truth and your experience and how it happened to you.

I think we've gotten to as a society, this point where it's like, we can only speak on our truth if we validate someone else's 87 truths first. And it's just like- It's exhausting. I'm not subscribed to it anymore. Like listen, I hope that there is a 25 year old that feels stressed right now about freezing her eggs and she hears this conversation. She's like, you know what? I'm gonna switch my mindset and I'm gonna come from a really nice place of abundance and just say I can get pregnant. Everything's happening for me. There's other things that go into getting pregnant. Sure, I'm not gonna take that away. Of course.

But that's not what this conversation is about. And I also think like, yeah, we don't have to. It's not impossible though, cause that's how the internet's making it seem. Like it's impossible to get pregnant past a certain age and you have to freeze your eggs. Right, and it's just not the case. Yeah, I just think I also like weed out.

I used to be like, I hope I don't know if anyone and I'm like anyone that's like listening and consuming my content, like if they are triggered or like I can't listen to Hershey's and stuff, well then that wasn't a fan I needed in my like corner anyway, so like it's kind of nice to get to the place that you're at, the place that we're at where we're not prescribed to that anymore and we kind of just have the people in our corner

that want to fuck with us, you know? Exactly, you can't placate to every single person. It's like, I know I'm not for everyone. Totally. I just want to inspire people at any age to open their mind and have expansive thoughts towards anything they're doing, whether it's building... It's a beautiful thing.

I had this friend the other day tell me that one of her friends told her she will never be able to do something in her business and I was like, not a friend, it's just like I don't want to be around someone who's telling me I can never do that or I can I'm sorry I don't I'm being again honest yeah I just don't want to. I also think the people that give like you can do that you can do this if you do this but just know you probably won't ever it's like well just to shut the fuck up Like I really don't need that kind of like energy and I think I've probably why I have such a small circle because I don't Need a yes, man, either I don't mean I don't need someone that kisses my ass and it's like no any you want

I just think like a realistic friend that believes in you is not that hard to fucking ask for and that's who I surround myself With I don't have anyone in my life That'd be like you're probably never gonna be able to do that. Like that's, I just don't know why you would, if you're listening to this and you have people like that in your life, like find a way to cut them off or get them at least to a point where it's not constantly in your like everyday ear because that's really damaging.

Totally, it's like almost, I think there's a way sometimes to like not cut people off, just arm's length, the energy. And like for me, if I have an idea, there's certain friends that I'll tell the idea to and there's certain, you know what I mean? It's like being pregnant and having a baby or like picking a name. I'm like, if I haven't told you the name,

there's probably reason for it. Like, don't ask, I haven't told you. Yeah, don't ask her, don't ask. You can get like, I feel like you're gonna come up with a good name. It's not that crazy. Like it's just a name. I really, you know what I fixated on?

My friend is so fun and so original and she like has created these names that she kind of like took different words and like put them together. Obsessed, right? Like she has a daughter named Novi and she just basically like saw a word, put a word together and I love that.

And I am like, I hate myself for this, but I'm just like, I always wanted to be original. Like literally, but you're on Pinterest, find outfits. Like you're not that original. But I wanted my baby to have this original name. I didn't want to have a daughter that ended up being like a Katie or an Ashley or you know, whatever, like no shade to Katie's and Ashley's,

but it's just really common names. So I was always on like the bump.com being like, what does this rank in baby names? And then my best friend Taylor was like, and she has three girls. She's like, you gotta fucking stop. Go with a name that you like. Do you like this name?

Because then you think about the moms in the world that have a Katie or an Ashley. Do you think one time in their life, they've ever been like, oh, it's a fucking shame. That's my daughter's name. No, like they're like, that's my Ashley. Like who fucking cares? If you love the name, go with the name. So that's what we've done. And it's been really nice. I really fixated on wanting a family name, a part of it in some way, shape

or form. I don't know if I got more sentimental being pregnant. That was like really important to me. So you do get sentimental, don't you? Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, oh my God, it's like a feminine. It's a feminine energy that like invokes you. And I'm like, what's all of this for, if not for legacy and la la la, like you just become this like version of yourself that's very maternal. That's what it is.

It's kind of like, it's a softness. I like it. Me too. I think when you're also like such masculine energy. Totally, and I'm kind of like foul. Like I can be really like brazen and just like, I'm always like, you know, like, yeah, let's fuck. Like what, like that kind of stuff like that.

And I like the feminine energy that's kind of like encompassed me. That's a, it does make you feel very like one with the earth. Yeah, yeah. It's very, yeah, it's very Snow White. So how have you brought your audience? Cause your podcast crushes it. You guys gotta go listen.

Thanks guys. Along on the journey. Cause I know you're doing a tour right now. How has that been being pregnant and managing all this these different things? You know the podcast is fine if I can bank episodes that's you know and I have a great producer who helps me and manages stuff. I'm great solo. Solo podcast is harder than you people think like it's you're just talking to yourself And I talk at such a rapid speed. I'm giving like two times energy and amount of words at once. So like doing an hour solo is hard,

but I can knock those out on the road. I'm taking my fans along the pregnancy journey pretty openly like you are. Like I'm just like not afraid to say the things I'm saying. Like I'm eating sushi. Like I'm eating deli sandwiches. Like Jimmy John's was like my literal life. No free advertising, but like, shout out to Jimmy. Like he was fantastic during my first trimester and they say like, don't eat

now that you don't. We drink raw milk at my house. Like we, I've been very open with my followers about that and like take it with a grain of salt. You do you, you talk to your doctor. I don't care. I didn't even ask my doctor by the way, like, because I know what she would say with all doctors say like, well, it's recommended. Like I I'm just listening to my body, being very, very intuitive with my body. Now, a part where I fucked up was thinking that I could be on tour and do this pregnant. Like, I've just never been pregnant before. And I would just girl boss too close to the sun.

I was like, I could be on tour for a full month and it's not gonna be a big deal. And it's been really hard, fulfilling. Cause of course, you know, cliche, everything that's hard like makes you feel better that you completed it, whatever. But it's been brutal, like going from city to city back to back to back to back and performing and meeting people and being the version that I know they want to see of me, which is fun and excited and happy and like, hey, Queen, when really I'm like, hey, motherfuckers, like I'm miserable. Like it's been hard.

You can't have a glass of wine. Yeah. I told Lorne before this. I'm like, doing these shows sober, wish I was a little buzzed. Like I wish I was, that would be fantastic. It's interesting, I think what it is, cause I have, like you don't have the capacity for as much because you are, you're building something, right? Of course. And it's, you only have so much capacity every day to give.

And you know what, I, I'm the kind of person that is like built like an energizer bunny. People are always like, God, what are you on? And I'm like, no, I only do drugs when I'm on vacation. Like I'm actually built like really, really, like really energetic. I don't need a bunch of espresso or coffees. I don't drink Celsius. Like I, I am just this way naturally, which is a gift and a disease for anyone that's around me and is like, shut the fuck up. But you know, that's why people like us have podcasts and long form content. It's an outlet. Yeah. And that was taken away from me in pregnancy and I did not see that coming. I just did not understand the lack of energy that you

experienced because I've never experienced that before. And then, you know, fuck a coffee, fuck any of that. I didn't, I had aversions to all of it. Like I had aversions to anything that would give me caffeine energy. So it was, it was brutal to experience that complete drain of energy. I'm also not a napper. So we'd be like, take a nap.

I'm like, I can't, my brain doesn't stop fucking going even though I'm tired. So that was like really hard for me to process. And then of course, everyone says, what you just said, you're building something. I'm like on the app, it's like, your baby's getting its eyelids today today. I'm like not fucking shit. No, that's why I'm so tired exactly and Let me tell you something By your third pregnancy

The husband at least mine is like You got this it it's like my first one, he was like doting and like, That's James right now. Everybody move out of the way! When I would like walk through a restaurant and now he's like, she's got it. You're like, no, I got it and two other kids to take care of. The fuck? I am so annoying. I'm like, do you think you could open the door for me?

That's funny. I could see. Can you slow down? It's like I'm following like a waddling duck, like a duck, a mother duck. He's like, 100%. And then you start to like just be like, she's duck, a mother duck. He's, I'm like, they start to like, just be like, she's got this in the bag. No, it's like, we appreciate the confidence,

but knock it the fuck off. Like, let's go back. Can you put some elbow grease? Like it is, you'll see if like when you have three. James is doting on me now. I mean, I could see him very much being like Michael and being like, babe, you've done this before. You've got this girl.

And I'm like, no, fuck off. Like I want to go back to the first one. The third one, they just are kind of like, you do, yeah, you go girl. Queen energy, you got this. It's like, ugh. I'm like, I need you to like get excited, get involved. Right.

They need to like do a- They get too used to it. PowerPoint on how to act. Cause I want the same energy that I had for the first. Right, right, right. On the third. I agree with that. Yeah, so just enjoy how he's acting all day long.

Okay, I will. You mentioned your intuition. I think that is something too that is, we've sort of like lost the art of. It's like someone tell us what to do. Right. The intuition to me is with everything I do so important and with pregnancy the same. What are some like hot takes that you have that you followed your intuition and it's worked out for you? Yeah. I mean,

I think Google is taking away everyone's like will to intuition. Like we forget we have it sometimes and I've been really good about it. I feel like in the space that we're in and in the world that we find ourselves in with friends and with business opportunities, like I've always been really big on following my gut. I also just like have a friend that legitimately is a witch and she's like, your gut is so powerful. Like always follow it.

So I'm always trying to like listen to her and like listen to myself. But I wanna see the witch. Yeah, I wanna see the witch. Her name's Anna Grace. She's amazing. She just like can access the Akashic records and like a lot of cool stuff.

And she's like woo woo. And like the way that you would never think. You gotta see me on an email with her. She literally looks like a little like cheerleader that's blonde. She just had like a near death experience and woke up and was like, oops, I'm a witch now. What?

It's crazy. Oh my God. No, it's iconic. But she's always reminding me like that gut feeling you have. And a lot of women, if you're listening to this, it's not a, when you have this feeling inside of you, think about if you've ever caught your boyfriend doing something or maybe you just had a feeling they were doing something.

That is a visceral reaction your body is giving you. It's a gift. Follow it, listen to it, listen to your gut. It's not just a gut feeling for a reason. It is in your guts making you feel a certain way. Follow that feeling and listen to it. I just try to do that with my everyday life, but also with pregnancy, I've tried to not feel any guilt around stuff

because it's really easy to, of course, all the stuff we consume, right? Like I didn't take a prenatal at all in the first trimester. And I like did even say to my doctor, like I'm feeling guilty. She was like, it's okay. Like if you can't stomach it, you can't stomach it.

But then I got into my second trimester, I thought I could probably start taking a prenatal. And I don't think my second trimester, I thought I could probably start taking a prenatal. And I don't think I've ever said this publicly, I'm still not taking a prenatal. And that's because I eat a diet that has everything in, now that I can eat again and eat like I used to, which is very healthy. I eat things that have fish oil in them.

I love fish, like I'm eating lots of fish. I'm having lots of food that are high in folic acid. Like I'm maintaining this diet that is rich and nutritious for my baby. So like, I just don't need to take like a prenatal that doesn't suit me or doesn't serve me right now. And maybe I'll change, maybe my third trimester,

I'll be like, something's missing, I need to take a supplement for something. You'll feel. Feel it out. Yeah. You'll feel it out. And that's fine, but right now I'm not. And I'm not like making myself feel guilty about that. I'm still, like I said, I'm still drinking raw milk. We have a farm nearby our house that's

very trustworthy, very hygienic and amazing and we drink raw milk. My husband's obsessed with it. Like he only wants to drink raw milk and he is so, he's so obsessed with research. Like he's so, so research-based. It's like innately inside of him. I couldn't be fucked to do any of that. Like I don't care to research stuff and And he is like obsessed with finding out. I think you're kind of like that. Like you're obsessed with like the knowledge on things. And so it's great. I have like a little like, you know,

book for dummies living in my house with me. Like he just tells me everything and I know it's well researched and great. And so I follow that lead. So I'm still drinking raw milk and I know you are too. And I eat sushi when I want to eat sushi. And I just think one day if I'm like, wait, I need to stop doing this And I just think one day if I'm like,

wait, I need to stop doing this, then I'll follow that gut feeling. You can feel your internal compass. Yeah. We've lost the art of listening to that. Yeah, and people used to wonder like, how did cavemen do it? They fucking had nothing but their intuition

and internal compass. Like that's all they had, you know? It's like little kids having tantrums. All they have is their feelings right now. That's all they have, right?? It's like little kids having tantrums. All they have is their feelings right now. That's all they have, right? So they follow wherever it takes them. So if they're sad, they erupt into sadness because it's literally all they have.

Like we need to go back to feeling the feelings that we're having and the intuitions and guts. I mean, I love modern medicine, don't get me wrong. I'm so thankful that I go to an OB. People are like, are you gonna have a home birth? I'm like, fuck no, give me the epidural. Like, absolutely not. but I intuitively am listening to myself with other things regarding the pregnancy.

It's funny though, cause you will be able to use your intuition too in your birth plan. So like a lot of people will be like, did you get this vaccine when the baby was born? Or did you put the igloo or all these different stuff? First of all, I'm scared to fucking put out what I do because there's so many goddamn opinions. Yeah, of course, and I'm not anti-vaxx.

I don't know what I'll give my kid at this point. If you wanna know, I don't know. I'll have to feel it out. You know what? No matter what you do, people are gonna have an opinion. 100%. If I give my entire full birth plan, like the internet will have a laundry list of like

what's wrong with it. I also don't feel the need in this pregnancy to share every little iota and that's hard for my audience and for me because I'm such an oversharer. That will happen even gnarlier when you have kids. Yes. Well, at least I did. I became, I'm very thoughtful with how my children show up. Correct.

Very thoughtful. It's not something I just fly by the seat of my pants and you're gonna see my daughter walking her first step and you know, them on the toilet potty training. Yeah, yeah, no, 100%. That's not my vibe at all. Right. And that's again, intuitively for my children.

Sure. It doesn't feel correct for you. Right. And that's again, intuitively for my children. Sure. It doesn't feel correct for you. Right. So that's fine. And very thoughtful. I think with that, like I've just found things that I want to share and don't share. I always forget this about myself.

I'm trying to be better about it. I'm like, you have the power bitch. It's literally you. Your brand is you. You don't work for another company. You don't like, your brand is Shannon. You don't work for another company. Your brand is Shannon. So Shannon gets to share what Shannon wants.

And I don't owe anyone anything, which is such an easier said than done phrase, but I get to share what I want to share. And anyone that has a problem with it, take it up with the CEO who's fucking me, bitch. So it doesn't matter. You're also the CEO of your baby. Yeah, precisely. I will share like three little tips that I love that I tell my friends. And I haven't shared this on the podcast a lot,

but this is what I would tell you. Don't use the blanket in the hospital. Okay. It causes eczema. Oh, okay. Everyone who's screaming, go Google it, go down a rabbit hole, go look into it. I'll send James on it. The blanket that everyone uses. Yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? I do. It has the little duckies on it or something. The wrap's in it. Maybe the duckies are in Nashville, but there's also like, it's like white and then there's blue and red stripes. Oh, I know what you're talking about. That must be right after birth blanket. They think about it. Your baby comes out and then they wrap it in something synthetic right away

that's been washed in who knows what with the beanie. Well, 100% also. And the skin's open. At a hospital, I'm sure they take the precautions of hygiene and they wash it in bleach related products. Exactly. So this is what I tell all my friends, don't use that blanket, bring your own fresh blanket that's wrapped like cotton or wool or something.

There's like a brand that or something. Yeah, yeah. There's like a brand that I think it's called A.U. and it's completely organic. Okay. And it's made from like, I don't want to flub it, but like no polyester, blah, blah, blah. Sure. You can get one of those. And then I think for me, I want my own beanie now because they put a beanie on it.

Why do they put the beanie on it? I think because they get cold. Okay. I might be wrong. No, no, I'm sure that seems- But don't use that blanket. This is my PSA to everyone. And then I also, I ate my placenta, which is not crazy.

A lot of people do that. No, did you eat it encapsulated or did you put it in a smoothie? To be honest, I would have fucking cut that up as a steak and had some A1 sauce with it You like you know, I'm eating a lot of steak tartar right now But you freaked me the fuck out on your podcast and you're like, I can't stop craving pate. I live a pate I'm like I can't relate to that craving specifically, but I am me out craving steak tartare

Are you craving salty? Yes pate is salty. Okay now I could eat it now take a sourdough cracker Okay, okay get some tangerine slices like a good tangerine. All right, maybe some cornichons the mini pickles Listen, this is starting to be a very elaborate couch snack, but I'm here for it. It's a plowman's lunch So I'm chopped raw cheddar cheese. Okay, put it on a board Get a little pate. Where do you get your liver pate from, bitch? Like, where is this just at? Local pastures.

Okay. It's in Austin. It's like Duck Heart. Okay. And dip that cracker in your pate with a little bit of cheese with your... No, no, this sounds delicious, by the way. A little hummus. I think I listened to your pregnancy podcast when I was in my first trimester and I was like,

Disgusting. She's so sick, fuck. She's disgusting. Now you're into it. Now I'm like, I just, I eat all kinds of food. Like I've always been like, my mom was like, you ate like, now we didn't grow up with a lot of money. So like she would go to the pantry section

and pickly wiggly. Cause my mom has always wanted to like be fancy and she'd get caviar from, which I'm sure was just salt beads. But she was like, you would eat that shit when you were three. You loved it. I would find an old photo,

and I'm like, look at all the chocolate on my face. And she's like, that's caviar. That's amazing. You have to post that picture when this episode goes live. I need to, yeah. You need to send me that. I will. And my mom has it as my contact photo.

She's like, that was caviar. We're in the back of a trailer. You would like it. I would love it. I'm telling you. Or you could take a piece of sourdough toast, put raw butter on it, and then put a little bit of pate on top.

Okay. I've gotta find the pate. That's what the search is gonna be for. I need to find it in Nashville. Nashville has amazing pate. Okay. And here's my thing. It's organs, which is so good for the baby

because think about the baby's fertility. Yes, I was taking those. Like, it's so good. I did lie. about yes, I was taking those like so good I did lie when I could stomach them James takes this I can't remember the brand vital something a Beef organ a beef liver using and I would take those but you take six of them and that was like sometimes a little much For me and so I would take like to try to take four of them when I could I could see myself getting back On that but I also just maybe I'll just go for the pate and just get some organs in that way on that, but I also just, maybe I'll just go for the pate and just get some organs in that way.

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If you're not like into liver pate and cornish and pickles and shit, then you can just take the, you can take the pills. Like they have, there is a- The only little pickle I like. Literally. I have been very cliche pregnant bitch and like really want pickles all the time.

Get some cornish, do- I'm here for it, I will. I'm telling you, the pate is good. You don't have to convince me now. Okay, it's not just like I'm spoon eating pate. Maybe that's what I pictured. You didn't break it down with the cheddar cheese. I didn't break it down.

And I was like, she's a sick fuck, that Lauren. She's nasty. I would spoon feed it into my mouth, but I make it like, I romanticize it. Yeah, no, I love romanticizing couch snacks. 100% I love that. Okay, I think you'll like the pate, so you gotta try that.

Okay, deal. So no blanket. Got it. No beanie. Yes. I ate my plac So no blanket. Got it. No beanie. Yes. I ate my placenta in capsules, super easy. They just take it out and put in cool. My best friend had a home birth and she, I was there.

And after she birthed her placenta, her midwife, maybe wiped it off. It was the craziest fucking thing. Cause you know, there's so much more like, one with the earth. Like at the hospital, they just take that shit away, away put in a bucket and throw it away, right? I wish they wouldn't do that though. I wish they would just let it sit in you well in it Well, doesn't it like come out on its own or they make you birth it?

I wish that they would let it sit for like an hour after you gave birth because it's good It's well, you know, they're trying to cycle you out of those fucking rooms bitch. So they're like, come on the clock's ticking We got someone else. They want you. Yeah. Bam. Thank you. Bam. Checklist. Let's go business of being born Yeah to watch but Taylor had her placenta and I'll never forget We were like she was sitting in the bed She had her baby doing skin to skin and the midwife came over and she's like exactly what you had pictured This is like such a hippie vibe. She walks over and she has this placenta That's literally like they say the size of a dinner plate. And she goes, look at this. What a beautiful placenta.

And she's getting her hands and she's like showing the, it's crazy. It looks like the end, like the back of a turtle. Like if you flipped a turtle over and saw all the lines and stuff. Carson, are you, have you fainted yet? Is this a lot for you? Is it a bit much? The liver pate will get him before this does, I promise. But she was like touching it and I was like, holy shit. And I'm actually a pretty squeamish person, Carson, I can relate.

But for some reason, things like that are such a magical, like all stricken, like you're just like, whoa. And she was like showing it. She was like, oh, this is a good one. And she was just like showing her all the different like parts of the placenta. And it was just crazy to see it. I was like, that is literally what one just came off of you.

So now that is the size of the wound that's inside of you. And then also that was what was attached to your baby. Like women are fucking so cool, dude. Like it was just so, so cool to see. Are you going to let James be up your vagina hole or is he going to be behind your shoulder? I asked him, because I watched all of Taylor's births. It was really beautiful.

And I said to him, like, it's not as gory and gross as you think. You're not looking at this like beautiful vagina that you love to like, you know, treat well and fuck nice. And ain't no porn, James. Yeah, you're not looking at it. And also my husband is like so anti-

So red too. He's so like anti-porn anyway. So like, he's all about like the imagination and like finding your sexual being like inside yourself. Anyways, he, he's like, I'm going to stay behind your shoulders. I don't want to, I don't want to see like her like that. And I'm like, no, I kind of like want him to because Taylor's husband ended up doing it. And he said the same thing. He was like, it's not what you think. Like it's, you're literally watching your child be born into the world. he's like there's something so beautiful about it

You don't see it as her vagina. You don't like you see it as this like portal to the world He's like I was able to like separate the two Maybe James knows himself and he's like I can't separate the two babe Like I have to say behind your shoulders, but I would not be like get back there stop I would be like, yeah, you could look if you want just don't describe it to me. I don't want a mirror I don't want a mirror. No, I didn't do a mirror. Do people do me. Oh people do mirrors. I don't like, yeah, you could look if you want. Just don't describe it to me. I don't want a mirror. I don't want a mirror. No, I didn't do a mirror. Do people do mirrors?

Oh, people do mirrors. Yeah, people do mirrors. I don't want that because I think I'll be too squeamish for that. Like I can sometimes if I have a really full tampon, it really grosses me out to pull it out. Like I'm kind of squeamish like that. I just-

Sorry, Carson. This is really getting- I feel like that's a lot of multitasking to add a mirror, but that's amazing if someone can do that. I'm great with instructions. Some people want to know. They want to see, they want to know. They want to be like, okay, now I do this. I'm great with instructions. Some people want to know they want to see they want to know They want to be like, okay now I do this

I will listen to what you tell me so like you tell me when it's time to push you tell me what I need to Do this like I I just know myself. I'll over complicate it if I can see something that I've never seen before, you know What are your pregnancy must-haves this pregnancy pregnancy must-haves pregnancy. Pregnancy must haves. I really, really love, love my mouth tape that I sleep with at night. I'm a mouth breather. And so like, it's, I used to have all these issues with my tongue. Like my tongue was always white

and people would be like, get a tongue scraper. So I did. And then I'd scrape my tongue and then I'd wake up in the morning and I'd be like, why is my tongue nasty as fuck like this? Oh, I don't know. Cause you're sleeping like this. And you either are or you aren't.

My husband is so fucking annoying. He sleeps like a little baby cherub angel. He's like, honestly, his little smile on his face, like, and he just breathes through his nose, and that's great if you're that person. But I am like, I don't know if it's hereditary. I am a mouth breather. And so I need that tape. I need that, like for me.

And I don't use the whole like you don't. I like put it on my lip. You like do a facelift? Yeah, yeah. I do a little 100 percent. And it's really helpful because I think I would even breathe through that hole if I could because my body Just wants to fucking breathe through my mouth. Yeah, I like I like it like I like the hole on the upper lip Yeah, I just some people want optionality. They like it for water in the middle of the night I don't drink water when I wake up in the middle of the night So I don't need the hole for a straw for water, but I see the functionality of it

But it's it's one of those things that like I have found is so beyond helpful with pregnancy. I also think just like breathing through your nose in general during like flu season and like all of these things, like our nose or a filter. Like if you guys are doing those things, I keep seeing Instagrams and TikToks of those things where they're like date night activity and it's them like putting the wax in their husband's nose and in their nose and then ripping the hair out. Like get a little trimmer and trim his hairs

if they're hanging out of his nose, cause that's fucking gross. Stop ripping out your filter that's in your nose that's supposed to protect. I know that I'm not supposed to. You put a whole wax thing in there, rip it out. Stacey Christie, my facialist does it. It's so satisfying.

I know, I agree with you. If you're not sick all the time, then don't worry about it. I agree with you though. But I think people that get really sick forget that like our noses really do help stop a lot of that germs. I just don't want like nose hair.

Do what you wanna do, live your truth. But like for me personally, I feel like I started getting less sick from breathing through my nose. Like when I'm on a plane, I just try to just breathe through my nose. Oh, it's like six central there. Plane's grossed me the fuck out.

What else are your pregnancy must-haves? It could be clothes It could be something non dresses. I love I'm liking dresses for this like weird in-between phase of like she is pregnant She's not pregnant like I I can't picture and I guess it's a weather thing like if you're pregnant in the middle of January Like you have to wear like pants, but like I'm really not liking pants during pregnancy Maybe I have it's uncomfortable bras. Oh Sorry, I've never had tits in my life and now I have tits and yeah, the boobs are huge like in pants during pregnancy. Maybe I haven't. You know what's uncomfortable? Bras. Oh, sorry. I've never had tits in my life and now I have tits.

And it's- Yeah, the boobs are huge, huh? It's crazy. Like, and I thought I wasn't gonna get that till I started breastfeeding or like the milk came. Oh no. They came instantly for me from all the hormones. Yeah. And I never realized like how, how much bras were like,

like I understand now I would always say to my big boobs friends, like, I wish I had big boobs. They're like, no, they're horrible. They are pretty cumbersome like they are they're in the way in the way and like I will say like I have a lot of respect for my like Like itty bitty titty committee now because I'm like I'd actually like to go back there Like these are really just in the way and all the clothes that I had before because I just only had like this like

Chest area I could wear all these lo-cut things. Now I look like a fucking prostitute. It's wild how much your boobs grow. I feel like I'm an E or a double D. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm just like a huge, huge C and I've always been an A my whole life. So it's just like nuts. Everything just like expands.

Everything expands. I have to have like literally in this gorgeous Chanel purse, I have stool softeners right now. Like I was so unbelievably constipated which I just did not I know it's such an old tired phrase like things They don't talk about when you're pregnant like bitch. Everyone talks about everything. What are you talking about? But like everyone talks about everything I can't say so right I cannot stand that fucking intro like things people don't talk about I want to be someone that talks about these things like

bitch go on the internet. Everyone's talking about everything. You could literally find a video where someone's like, I grew a tail during pregnancy and I loved it. Like everything happens. A tail? No, I mean, I'm making that up. But like, you know how everything that happens?

I'm like, I have a stye. They're like, those are more common during pregnancy. I'm like, oh fuck off. Like everything is more common. Well, everyone does talk about everything. Everyone talks about everything and I must not have been consuming enough content. I heard that you can be constipated.

I didn't understand the seriousness of it. I have like a whole bit about it in my standup because it's just like really so crazy that you can't like ship. Here's the tip for constipation during pregnancy. A huge bowl of kiwi. Like I'm talking about like actually eight kiwis. Well yeah, you don't get much bang for your buck on those.

No, you don't get a bang for your buck. It's like a micro dick. Literally. You gotta do eight. You gotta peel them. I didn't know that those help you go to the bathroom. But then you have to put zen basil seeds on top. Bitch, where do you find this stuff out? Zen basil seeds have 15 grams of fiber. What?

In one tablespoon, I think, it might be two. Does it just taste like basil? It tastes great. It's delicious. I had it this morning. I had eight kiwis peeled with probably three scoops of zen basil seeds. The way I'm literally going to do this

the second I get home, one thing if you're a first trimester girly that you can stomach, I could eat as much fruit as my heart desired. That was very attainable. Why is that? That's weird. I know what you're saying. You must need it,

because your body wants it and is okay with it. Your body does want fruit. And I ate, it was what I honestly survived on. So if I would have had that hack to help with constipation and getting fiber in, that would have been a game changer. You guys listen the fuck up like that. If you're struggling in your first trimester, do that. Not chia seeds.

No, you said zen basil seeds. Zen basil seeds. Different. 100%. Totally different. And there's so much potassium and calcium. And it's like what you said about the prenatal. You're getting all these elements. Nutrients that you need. Yeah. Yeah. Zen basil seeds, you can put them in a smoothie. There's so much fiber in them. I needed that. I mean, yeah. And that was the one thing because I try to be as holistic as possible,

like very 80-20 life. And I literally, I'm like, whatever the fuck is in these stool softeners, I don't care. Put it in my body because I just needed it so bad. And I don't even, I'm not even constipated anymore, but I just keep them with me because I'm so afraid to get back to that place where I was like emailing the portal of my OB. And she was like, get a pair of latex gloves and try to, you know, remove any hardened stool inside your rectum. I'm like afraid to get back to that place where I was like emailing the portal of my OB and she was like get a pair of latex gloves and try to you know remove any hardened stool inside your rectum. I'm like bitch what the fuck does this look like? Like I'm not a French bulldog getting my anal glands expressed at the vet. Like I can't do that. Like I give me a pill. I cannot reach into my rectum and dislodge stool. Well I can't do that. You the main times you typically have to be careful of constipation are after surgery because

the anesthesia. Correct. And after you have a baby. Right. So. Kiwis and zin basil seeds. I'm on it. But honestly, if you got to take a stool solvent, you got to take a stool solvent.

Sometimes you just have to. You know what? You got to do what you got to do. Because my thing is like, if you do do the epidural or you do get surgery and have anesthesia, you want it out of your body as soon as possible. Yeah, it's true. Are you doing belly binding? Belly binding?

No, not yet. I don't have that big of a belly yet. What's belly binding? Is that where it holds your belly? After. Oh, oh, oh, oh. No, I haven't heard of this. There's this girl that owns this company called Belly Binds.

Okay, love. And she comes to your house, you can fly her out or you could get someone in Nashville. And she wraps your stomach. Wow. And it really helps the uterus go back. Oh, because your uterus doesn't need to shrink back, correct? Yeah, it helps it like they've been doing it in cultures for- Is it more for the uterus less for the aesthetics of your stomach? I think it's for both. For both. Okay. I'm, I'm going to do whatever I need to do to get back in my pre-pregnancy shape. Yeah. Yeah. That offends someone again. Like I, I want to look, be my best version of my- Do you? But like- The belly binding's nice though.

I just don't know a single person if they really, if they were connected to a lie detector test, who wouldn't say like, I'd love to look like I looked before I gave birth. Like I, I can't imagine, like, I don't think that's a crazy statement. Like, yeah, I'd love to look like I looked before I gave birth. Like I can't imagine, like I don't think that's a crazy statement. Like, yeah, I'd love to get back there. To say you want to be back there in two weeks, that's a crazy statement. But to say like, yeah, eventually I'd love to heal and be back to my pre-baby self.

What the fuck is wrong with saying that? There's nothing wrong with saying that. I wanna look the best I've ever looked when I'm done having kids. I wanna look the best I've ever looked at all times. And that's on narcissism. And I don't think when I'm done having kids. I would have looked the best I've ever looked at all times and that's on narcissism and I don't think there's anything wrong with vanity like I literally want to look hot at all times like in pregnancy I'm literally like how can I

still look hot. I don't know like some people are like I don't care I care. I care. Sue me. I also think that that pregnancy can be it's beautiful and blah blah blah. You also can feel really unattractive. Yeah, I let myself be a slob kabob whenever I was in my first trimester. It's all I could do. I really understood how people feel

when they say like makeup, like how the, I see my friend would be like, she loves to say this, like, cause she's had three girls now. And she would be like, what are you getting ready for? And I'd she's had three girls now. And she would be like, what are you, what are you getting ready for? And I'd be like, just the day. And she'd be like, oh, you're just getting ready for the day. I'm like, yeah, I'm just getting ready for the day.

I understood in my first trimester, like literally fuck off. Like I'm not getting ready for the day. Like what a luxury bitch. You feel good enough to get ready for the day, for nothing, just the day. Like that was crazy. But now that I feel better, I do, I'm someone that likes to get ready for the day. So like, I. But now that I feel better, I do, I'm someone that likes to get

ready for the day. So like I let myself lean into the feelings of like wanting to be in a sweat set with no makeup and my hair on top of my head. Like that was fine for me then, but now I have energy back so I want to look nice. I don't like to wear makeup unless I'm doing something. Yeah, like for the day that you had something to do with makeup. I don't wear makeup all the time on my stories and stuff. I'm not going to like put makeup on and do an ad for my Instagram. But like, if we were going to dinner or we were going to lunch and I like wanted to look cute, I'm happy to get ready for the day. I will like bank my makeup days. Like if I have to wear makeup, I will try to get as much out of the day as humanly possible. Right. And I think

what I've realized is it's because I just want my skin to breathe. I don't want makeup on my skin all the time. Do you know what I'm really bad about? I don't have like a five minute face. Like I have like a this face. Like I just- It looks really good though. Thank you. Did you do your own makeup?

Yeah. There's like beautiful, like strategically placed like freckles. Listen guys. You look great. Thank you so much. Little individual lashes. Listen, I'm on the him and her podcast guys.

I had to pop my pussy for this. Well, you know what? It's been popped. You look beautiful. Thank you so much. little individual lashes. Listen, I'm on the Him and Her podcast, guys. I had to pop my pussy for this. Well, you know what? It's, you look beautiful. Thank you so much. You're glowy. I need to like find a way to like, like do like, you know, concealer and mascara and like a gym lip.

But like I, for me, I'm like, if I'm putting makeup on, I'm putting this makeup on. So that is why I don't always wear makeup because it's like a full beat, dude. You commit to it. Yeah, I commit to the bit. So how long does it go for? How long does-

Like how long does this take? Oh, no, I can, I'm actually really, I hate to be a pick me bitch with this, but I'm a light packer and I can get ready really fast. So how fast? Is it five minutes or is it- Oh God, no, but it's like, this is a full beat with fake, like individual fake lashes.

So yeah, you said it's not, it doesn't take five minutes. So what, it takes 20? No, it's like 35 minutes, 30, 30 tops. Okay, that's not like crazy. No, I mean, who knows if I I'll continue doing this like when I have like children and all that kind of shit But like right now like to have like this glam in 30 minutes. It's a real gift. What annoys you about pregnancy? Not being able to drink alcohol. I don't care. You judge me for that. I really thought in my first trimester I was like, this is how people are sober. I don't even want alcohol. The thought of alcohol disgusts me. It was like the second I hit 13 weeks into my second trimester, I was like Sauvignon Blanc, Sauvignon Blanc, Sauvignon Blanc.

I was like, margarita, tequila, tequila. I was like, I want that. That sounds refreshing, delicious. And I miss the vibes, dude. I'm such a vibe person. And to go to lunch with your girlfriends and have an apparel spritz, I'm not going and getting blitzed and hammered. That's like not really my vibe anymore. It's a part of the experience. Yeah. Like I went on vacation. We're in Miami. I want a fucking spicy margarita with my friends on the beach. Like I want a Paloma. And it's just like the vibes. And I just like don't fuck with a mocktail really. Like I've tried them and I just feel like it's a waste of $14. And I'm just like the vibes and I just like don't fuck with a mocktail really like I've tried them and I just think it's a waste of $14 and I'm just like I would just rather be pregnant and have sparkling water with lime like I miss that what else annoys me about pregnancy just like the early stages where you

have nothing to show for it that like now I'm like I have a bump and like people will be like oh can I get that for you like I hated that in-between stage I understood how people are like I have a silent a silent illness. I have a hidden illness or whatever. I'm like, that's me, I'm pregnant. You can't tell yet. I'm fucking, it's a hidden illness. I got pregnant and my stomach pops out. That's great.

You know what? I'm showing more than most people do, but I have a long torso. Maybe that's why I don't fucking know. It's a slippery slope comparing yourself to other people on the internet when you're pregnant. 100%. Yeah. It's really tricky to navigate.

I also know there'll be a time where I'll want my stomach to stop, like, Whoa, whoa, we're getting out of control here. So I try to remind myself now and I'm like, I wish I had more of a bump. I'm like, bitch, be patient. Just enjoy the process of it all. Yeah, yeah. I try to remind myself of that. Do you have plans after you have the baby? Like, meaning are you gonna get a night nurse?

Are you, do you have a nanny on ice? Like, what? No, oh my God, I wish. Like, one just like freezing. Like, didn't freeze my eggs, froze my nanny. But like, I don't have that. I, currently the only thing I've paid for, put a deposit down for, is this post nutrient. This woman that comes and she's like super, super like old age, like caveman style, like

the nutrients and the teas and the food that you need. Where do I get that in Austin? I'm sure they have it. It's this woman that she, I had to book her like last two months ago and I'm not due to the fall and she's because she can only take one person per pregnancy because she comes to your house. It's a luxury. I let myself lean into the luxury and like-

What's this called? I need to look it up. It's like- Will you text it to me? I will text it to you. But basically it's a woman that comes and makes sure that you are fed nutrient based things. Also, like I don't trust James.

He's a fine cook, but like I need him for other shit during that time. I don't need him to be in the kitchen cooking some shit that I'm going to look at and be like, I don't want that. Like I want her to cook. She cooks things that are like, it's very nutrient dense for a woman healing from like birth. And so it's all these teas, it's all these broths, it's all these things. And then like in your second week, the second week is all about healing this part of your body. So it's this food and this food. And it's like, I treated

myself to that because it was not cheap, but she like comes to your home and then she like, she has a key to your house. She comes in, she cooks it, she leaves, she like leaves it for you. And it's like that was something that I want to make sure I'm a real. I love food. Like food is really something that I'm just obsessed with. And I love good food. And I've always just enjoyed when I started making money.

I spent the most money on food. Like that was like my thing. Like, are you cooking the food or is this, you're spending it on like Postmates food? No, like I would like cook nice food or go to nice restaurants and have nice food. Like I just love food. So I let myself splurge on that. I haven't hired a night nurse.

I wanna feel motherhood as it is. And if I'm like, get me out of fucking here, I do know some night nurses that I could call and I could probably hire. There's like a community of people in Nashville that I could reach out to, but I do kind of wanna here. I do know some night nurses that I could call and I could probably hire. There's like a community of people in Nashville that I could reach out to, but I do kind of want to see what I can do on my own at first,

but I'm not afraid. I'm not going to drown. Like if I'm drowning, then I will just call for help. Also, my mom's going to come stay with us for like, I'm sure two or three weeks. That's amazing. That is something that I feel very blessed about. And my mom is like the pinnacle.

Like I cannot think of one person that's more suited to be a grandmother. Like she's just gonna be everything and more. Like that woman literally like would lay my life on a fucking train track for her. So that is why I also haven't hired a night nurse. Not that I'm putting my mom in charge of nights,

but I'm just like, I know if I need help, she'll be there. And if I need help pass that, I'm not like afraid to hire someone. I also think you have to like gauge your partner. There are some partners that won't change a diaper. There are some partners that won't wake up. Yeah, I worry about James waking up. There's some part they don't wanna do it.

And by the way, like that's fine for me. For you not fine. No, Michael's better do 50%. Yeah, that's how I feel. Honestly, maybe actually Michael better do 60% because I just carried the baby, I'm healing. Like, that's how I feel. Come on, put some elbow grease into it.

And I think James kind of like fell into the like little like, I know he's like, he's kidding, but he's not like the trope of like, oh, I'll sleep in the guest room. And like, I got really serious and we I would not call it a fight at all, but we had some serious conversations where I was like, you will wake up, you will be miserable for three or four weeks the same way I'm sure I will, we will be dog ass tired. And that is what happens when you bring a baby

into this world. I will be doing so much more than you anyways, because I gave birth, I have the baby, I have all this stuff. When I need you in the middle of the night, and my friend Taylor was like, sometimes you need them to just wake up with you, not do anything, but be awake with you

so you don't go clinically insane. So you're like, someone else is awake with me at the same time. And I have that like comfortability of knowing he's awake too. And he was like, so you would just wake me up just to like be awake. And I was like, if I fucking need to then yeah. And he's like, okay, okay. So now he's in the understanding that like, he's going to fucking do it. I think that this conversation is very helpful

for a lot of people because I notice a lot of influencers and celebrities, they don't talk about help at all. And I'm not just talking about like hiring a nanny, I'm talking about bringing your mom in. Yeah. Having a husband who's helpful, having someone help with the house. Like I think it's an important conversation to have

so people can see sort of like the behind the scenes. Right. Yeah. I mean, I would not be able to do what I do without help. You have a very different job than a lot of people, though. I don't think people understand that. Like it's a big conversation.

My girlfriend who does the same thing as I do, she has a nanny, but like she doesn't go to an office every day. So people are like, your home, why do you like have a nanny? And that's like a hater saying something like that. And it's like, what do you mean? Like, what a blessing to be able to have your kids still in the home that you're working out of and living out of. But like, you cannot do what we do without help.

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And my kids loved playing in the pool with them. I'm you know, catatonic. Yeah. And like can't like do jumping jacks and splits in the pool with them. I'm you know catatonic and like can't like do jumping jacks and splits in the pool. Do you know what you said that I keep quoting from your pregnancy podcast and I say it all the time I literally say it in my stand-up so I'm like the show's over. Oh yeah I say that's my ball time. That's what I say right before I put the mouth tape on. Yeah yeah. The show's over. Listen he married me for the show. Yeah yeah. He's always gonna get a show.

He was, I wasn't gonna go to dinner when we were on the vacation and he's dragging me to dinner because he wants the show. Of course. And I will put the show on and there'll be lights, camera action. Correct.

I'm fucking ushering to the chair. Yes. You'll get the popcorn, everything. But when the show is over. Get the fuck out of the venue, bitch. Get the fuck out of the venue. And that's why I love mouth tape. It's over. It's a nice sign. What's it called when. Get the fuck out of the venue. And that's why I love mouth tape. It's over.

It's a nice sign. What's it called when they do the cut? The final curtain. Yeah, what the... The cut, yeah, cut. It's over. Done. But that's good.

They don't get access to the show all the time because it makes them want the show more. It's so true. It's my... It's so true. A little absence is great for marriage. Agreed. Hate to break it to everyone.

But this is also coming from the girl that said she'll get on our knees at 10 months pregnant. So maybe we should give a little absence from great for marriage. Agreed. Hate to break it to everyone. But this is also coming from the girl that said she'll get on our knees at 10 months pregnant. So maybe we should give a little absence from blowjobs. I don't know though. I don't know that that's where I would put the absence. Okay, I see. I think I would lean into the, this is my opinion. Yes.

I would put the energy into, that's a show to me. The blowjobs a show. Okay. And then like I pull back and that's a show to me. The blow job's a show. And then like I pull back and there's a little mystery and like the other day I went to the foot spa for eight hours and like I didn't pick up my phone. The way I love a foot spa, the way I will try to, I will try to find the dirtiest, nastiest, like those are gonna be better.

Like I will literally be like, they have two stars on Google, perfect. Like I am not kidding I do not want a nice boozy. Have a star. I do not want a boozy footspah I want allegations against the footspah like I want there to be articles Yeah, I want there to be articles where they're like really wondering what's going on there I want to go there like I love Honestly, if there's a happy ending I'm so relaxed. So I probably wouldn't even know what's happening.

I would just be like, you're still rubbing my feet, right? Like I love a foot spa. I ask every time I go, I have like my friends, I have like friends at the foot spa. I'm like, I like know their names. I'm like, can I have one on each foot, please? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that okay?

A forehand massage. One person on each foot, please. No, I'm getting turned on. I literally love a foot massage. You have to, because your ankles get so swollen. Yeah, I was on the beach, please. No, I'm getting turned on. I literally love a foot massage. You have to. Because your ankles get so swollen. Yeah, I was on the beach, we were at the beach, and we were standing at the Fianna, and they had this lady walking around

giving massages. And she was like, she could see I was pregnant, and she was like, oh, I won't do the feet. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not, you cannot induce labor to me right now with reflexology. Fucking hit it, bitch. Like, come on, get in there. I was like three babies and I've gotten my feet rubbed all the time.

I was like, I love where your head's at, but I promise you like go in on the feet please. If you really want to be strategic, you can stretch your feet while you give a blow job. You can stretch the fascia in the feet. You're out of control. I'm just being out of my touch. Serious?

Out of control. I need to get as much out of this moment, these two minutes. You were nothing if not effective, efficient. Honestly, if you position your feet right, you can stretch the fascia in the feet while you're on a nice, comfortable knee pad. I'm telling you.

One thing about Lauren, she is going to multitask. Like, that is the craziest statement. It's a passive multitask. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a lot of effort. It feels nice when I get up. My feet are stretched. It's kind of like doing a yoga pose and a stretch while you're getting something else done. I see. Yeah. No, it's a beautiful two birds, one stone kind of situation. And then the show's over. And I'm like a guy. I am like a guy after that I'm like don't talk to me don't look at me you got yours I'm good get away from me let's I want to

take a shower brush my teeth that I'm putting my mouth tape on I'm like a brutal guy yeah you're like I'm turning around over like I'm like you know this is how it would be to date a guy. How I am. And after sex, when you're a hundred months pregnant. I can't imagine. Oh, get ready. I can't imagine. Because they don't care. Can I say something really graphic?

Please, go for it. Do you know, while I'm pregnant, I really wish, I know this is just like not the way husbands and wives are supposed to have sex. Like, of course you should finish inside of me. But like the act of that process after having sex, like I'm like, can you not come inside of me? Because I'm already pregnant. I don't need you to do that.

And then it comes out of me for the next like day. And I'm like, oh my God, I hate that. I think I actually- Pull out. But he- He can't, I know it's- It's like nine months, 10 months of not pulling out. So they get excited, they can do that.

It's so true. Do you know what I mean? It's so true, because our method of birth control is the pull out method so I get it. It's like his time to shine. Which is nice and natural and amazing. I love it. It's great. You don't have to do any hormones.

It's so, oh is that good for hormones? No, I'm saying like an IUD and all these different things have, birth control is hormones. Like you don't have to do that. When I met James he's like I'd really like for you to get off birth control. I'm like we've known each other for three months. Like are you trying to impregnate me? And he's like I just don't think you should be on all really like for you to get off birth control. I'm like, we've known each other for three months. Like, are you trying to impregnate me? And he's like, I just don't think you should be on all those hormones. And I got off birth control.

Well, we had someone come on the podcast that says a lot of those hormones in the birth control are contributing to infertility. Yeah, that, I mean, there's a lot of things it can be contributing to, like the rise in cancer and very young women at this day and age, like you just, we don't know, like, and I was on a very high, like I got put on birth control whenever I was 15, you know? I just think that I'm going to say something to James. Just let him do his thing and finish.

And by the way, I do. If I looked at him when he was about to come and said, can you pull out? He'd be like, no. He'd be like, why? Like, I just think like as a woman, I'm just like, oh, one more fucking thing. Like, geez.

Wait until you have the baby after you've done all the work and then they're like, okay, put them on the breast. And you're like, it never ends. I'm like, my body is just a fucking constant. It's like, I feel like a sow. No, it's true. It's like, I'm on my side with like the utter, like it's crazy, like how much we do.

And then they're like, OK, like, yeah, yeah. It's just like put them. Yeah. What's the thing that spins around at the airport? Oh, my God, the carousel. The luggage carousel. Like, yeah, yeah. That's how it is. Mark my words right after you have the baby. You're going to think that I said that because it's like, now this you it's like Mark my words right after you have the baby, you're gonna think that I said that,

cause it's like, keep it. Now this, you, it's like all my holes are just being filled or sucked from at all times. And it's just gonna be one of those things. Have your mom spend the night at your house the first five days after you have the baby. I know you said she's staying two or three weeks. But have her be there like the night you come home,

because that's the night that you're so tired and you need to sleep. Okay. That's my... Okay, no, that's good. That's great information. I don't feel like I, even after my third baby, have so many tips on pregnancy. You have really good ones.

I don't, like, I don't think I should write a book on what to expect when you're expecting. It could be a short story. It could be a short story. You could do that. An Instagram paragraph. Yeah. But you got to sleep after you go through could do that. An Instagram paragraph, but you gotta sleep after you go through all that trauma.

I'm really, really, well, sleep's the easiest way to heal or the most powerful way for your body to heal is when it's sleeping, right? So like, yeah, I'm hoping that I'm able to find sleep at times. I hope I'm not like really like on edge, like is she awake, is she breathing, is she like those kind of vibes.

It's, it's- But that's maternal, you know, it's. And wait till even when they get older, like even with my two year old and my five year old, you're like a hundred things go through your head all the time. Right. Everything is like. Well, I asked Taylor because she was like, I like spend my life worrying about my girls. Like, it's all I do. It's all I think about. Like, I just I'm always wondering and thinking about them.

She's like, I called my mom and I said, when do you stop? Like, at what age do they get where you stop constantly thinking about their wellbeing every two seconds? And Taylor's mom was like, I think about you every second of every day, and you were married and 31 with three children. It never goes away.

It is inside of us. We are always concerned and worried about our children. And that's a really beautiful thing to be able to have a mother that still says that about you, of course, like that's a blessing. But like as someone that's going to most likely have those feelings, I'm like, wow, this is my life now. Just worried about my children forever. You do. What's it like moving to Nashville or I guess you live there. What's it like living in Nashville? Like do you have something about it feels very grounding to me. Yeah it's beautiful. Did you guys ever think about moving there instead of Austin? Because I feel like people go back and forth between Austin and

Nashville as a thought to move. I think we were already like moving away from LA and San Diego that like Nashville was just maybe. Too far. Yeah like I think it was we were wanting to be a little bit closer to family but I love Nashville. I think it's amazing. I've it's amazing. I've only been once. Yeah. You guys are having a Dear Media, I don't know, am I allowed to say that yet? Yeah, yeah.

You guys are having a Dear Media in-person event in Nashville in September, or sorry, November, which will be really fun. So you'll get to come then. I would love to come then. And there's something about it that feels mother earth. It feels nice. We just moved actually 20 minutes outside of Nashville to the suburbs called Franklin. Okay. Yeah. It's like, it's a really, really a gorgeous outside of Nashville to the suburbs called Franklin. Okay.

Yeah, it's like, it's a really, really a gorgeous experience. Cause Nashville, you still get that city life, you know. That's where we went when we went. Yeah, Franklin. Okay. It's amazing and it's wonderful. And it is, it's like you wake up every day,

you hear the birds chirping and there is something very grounding. My husband is like, he wakes up in the morning. He's like, so you coded, like he wakes up in the morning, he gets natural sunlight in his retinas. He puts his feet on the ground and like, I'm like, oh, how many emails can I check from my bed? He's like, come coded, like he wakes up in the morning, he gets natural sunlight in his retinas, he puts his feet on the ground and like, I'm like, oh, how many emails can I check from my bed? He's like, come on, get up,

like let's go put sunlight in our eyes. I'm like, okay. So it's nice to have a place you can do that and feel like you're really getting the benefits from the earth that surrounds us, which is really fucking lame to say, but it's true. Like it's a beautiful place to live. I heard there's like deer in your, like, is that true?

Yeah, it's a beautiful, I mean, we live in like a suburban in your, like, is that true? Yeah, it's a beautiful, I mean, we live in like a suburban neighborhood. So like, deer aren't frolicking around, but they're literally like across the street. Yeah, it's like, like I said, the farm we go to, it's just, we just passed a farm and we're like, I wonder if they sell raw milk. Walked up, met the farmer.

He was like, we do, we do a, you know, a grocery share. We do this, like we have the eggs. Like it's such a beautiful place to be able to find things around you that just exist the way that they used to always exist. Are you anal with your schedule? It doesn't sound like you are. It sounds like you're go with the flow. No, I'm go with the flow. My husband's not. And so it's that's a really hard thing for us to navigate.

And we have to just understand that we're two different people. But no, I'm really I'm really go with the flow. Like, are you waking up when you want and not doing anything wellness, health, fitness? Like, are you, do you have like pillars of tools that you use in your toolbox? Yeah, I do. I will wake up and I do try to like eat. I try to eat right when I wake up,

like a healthy protein filled, like yogurt and fruit and whatever. Like I do like to nourish my body. I'm big on like nourishment. Like, I was never someone that could just like, oops, I haven't eaten and it's 2 p.m. Like I like to wakeish my body. I'm big on like nourishment. Like I was never someone that could just like, oops, I haven't eaten and it's 2 p.m. Like I like to wake up and make sure I'm nourished. And I know some people do intermittent fasting

and that's different. I just mean people that are like, I got so busy I forgot. Like I always try to like really eat, but I just also love food. And then I really prioritize my sleep. Like if I don't have to be up at a certain time for something, I will let my body wake up.

Now I'm an early riser, so I wake up at seven naturally. That's like me. I don't, an alarm clock. I don't need one because I really do just wake up before them. Can we rebrand who wants to wake up to screaming sounds? No, it's crazy. Like the hatch alarm was like a really great thing that we got because it like wakes you up with like little flutes and birds and stuff.

Like I cannot, like, and even people that play like their favorite music, like that's a way to kill my favorite song like make that be my alarm when it wakes me up like it's not it's not healthy for me I don't like that but I really don't find myself setting alarms unless I have like a flight to catch early you know it's Michael's like Michael wakes up you guys sometimes to the sound of the theme song of succession. And for that reason, like he does need less blood drops. Out! I can't. My ether.

Out. I've gotten him off that, but I want to be woken up. Like this is my dream. Remember how Cinderella wakes up to the church bells and there's the birds chirping and she fluffs the pillow and then the birds fix the end of the pillow? Correct. That is how I want to wake up every morning. Michael do that for her, what's the big deal?

The hatch kind of does that. It does, it is nice like that. We also, we don't sleep with blackout curtains. Now I will like, I needed sleep this morning. We've been on the road nonstop, nonstop. And I put the blackout curtains, I slept till 9.30. Like James texted me like, are you okay? Like, are you okay?

And I was like, I slept till 930. It feels good. I was so proud of myself. I was like, wow, my body must have really needed that. Cause my internal clock wakes me up at 737. Like, so I was like, whoa, what a treat. But at home, we don't sleep with any blackout curtains because it's really nice.

And it's great for your circadian rhythm to have light wake you up, you know? Why do you think that your podcast has become so successful? What are the things that you think that you've put in that make the difference? I don't think I've ever tried to like find a niche or find like a thing that I'm known for or like I've just like truly been myself, which is like such a literal cliche thing to say. No, I get it. I get it. But it's really hard to maintain who you are in the day and age and then the digital world we live in. People are always like, well, you know, then you need to be doing this and now you need to be doing

this. I sometimes found myself being like, oh, should I do this? Because those people do like, they have like segments. Like every at the end of every show, we do blah, blah, blah. Like I don't have any of that stuff. If you come to see me, you're going to listen to me fucking for an hour. And then like, a lot of of people love that and if that's not your jam then like it's not your podcast but I think I've just never tried to be a version of something that I have to strive for like I just truly exist the way I exist and the toast has done that well too and it's no surprise you guys are such good friends they've been able to oh my god I feel like whenever I listen to them they're themselves they helped me so so much like Claudia and Jackie are such good friends. They've been able to. Oh my God. I feel like whenever I listen to them, they're themselves. They helped me so, so much. Like Claudia and Jackie are such pillars of not,

and you're like this too, not giving a fuck. Like they are, they are not innately offensive people. They don't want to offend. They don't strive to offend. No, their intentions, right? Yes. So like if someone is misunderstanding them, then that is someone just like choosing to misunderstand them. Also, stop looking. I'm going to name this person. It's the looker. The looker's on the lookout with the binoculars. You're looking for someone to fuck up anything that they can say

where you can start a Reddit thread or send an email or complain. If you're a looker, get a hobby. Yeah, and I've done so much better about not... Because I used to, you you know say all the time I producer was that offensive should we cut that out and I don't do that anymore like because I know I'm not an offensive person like the only thing I cut out is if I like mispronounce someone's name or something like I truly know that what I am and my intentions in my heart are good and so you listen to that and I do feel like you feel that like you listen to my podcast and you feel like

you're on FaceTime with me because that's how I talk to my friends and that's how I talk to my audience. And it is it's helped me find success because I've stopped giving really a fuck about all the lookers of the world. Like look somewhere else. Like you're not going to affect me anymore if you look to find something like you found it good for you. That's something you're offended by. And like 20,000 other people, 40,000 other people weren't so like I'm gonna side with them on this one like I don't care

it's also stuff that like is not offensive becomes offensive and that's when it's like well and you'll put yourself in a really bad position if you're always apologizing for stuff you're not sorry for I don't apologize for anything I'm not sorry for. Like, I'm serious. Like, I do not get on my Instagram and put a fucking black screen up and a text. I'm not apologizing for something I'm not sorry for. If I had to contact someone and be like, what's the best way to apologize for this? You're not sorry. You're not. If you can't think of an apology that comes to you because you actually feel bad, then you're not sorry. So stop apologizing for shit you're not sorry for because you're trying to like negate a PR situation. Like, stand on business. Say it with your chest, dude.

Like, say how you feel. It's not going to appease everyone. It is what it is. But I've always been like not everyone's cup of tea. So I learned that from an early age. My mom had to tell me very early on, like, people are not going to always like you. Like, you've got to get over it because I used to just be so affected by it. When I was little, like when I was in like high school and middle school, I'd be like, I just don't get it. They don't like me for no reason. She was like, they do have a reason, but it's their own.

It's nothing to do with you. Like they do have a reason inside of them, but it's not about you. So get over it. The way to get over that is exposure therapy. Like we talked about, the way to get over of people thinking about you or talking about you is exposure therapy.

You continue to put yourself out there day after day. People have stuff to say, you just keep doing it. It becomes like a muscle. You start to get to a point where I'm not mad or angry, I'm indifferent. I'm not anything. I don't have a feeling towards it. If you don't like me, like you said, go

somewhere else, like unsubscribe. This is how people exist in real life. Like people that have friends and have conversations with their friends and their family, like they don't filter themselves. Have you ever been at a dinner table? If you're listening to this and you're not in the public space or public like front facing position online, have you ever been at the dinner table and said to the people sitting around you, by the way, trigger warning. And I don't mean to offend anyone before I say this. You don't say that in your real life. So like we need to just exist as we exist in real life and stop like focusing so much on like how everyone's affected by it.

Like I care. I have empathy. I'm like habitually empathetic. Like I it's too much like I can't stand sometimes how much I think of other people's feelings. So like I'm good. I sleep well at night knowing that I care about others and how they feel. And I do write by others. So I don't need to like give a bunch of disclaimers in real life. You're going to hear things you don't like 100% on the internet.

You're going to see things you don't like. You're not going to agree with everything. Yeah. It's a Ricky Gervais quote, right? Is that's that's the way the cookie crumbles to walk around in life thinking you'll never hear a differing opinion is the most ignorant way to live your life. Like it's literally, it's truly a sign of stupidity. Like to think that you'll never hear anything that doesn't like appease you or is in the

same like realm of your thoughts and beliefs. And how boring. No, it's just like, that's just crazy. That's exhausting. Yeah. It's exhausting. You're fabulous. I love you, Lauren.

You can come back anytime you want. We really niche down on pregnancy. Yeah. But you can come back anytime to talk about anything. Maybe when you have the baby. Yeah, yeah, with love. I can't wait to hear like post, Shannon post baby. Me too, honestly.

You're welcome anytime. Love you so much. Maybe we'll come to Nashville. Maybe we'll podcast in November. Please. Where can everyone find you, follow you, support your podcast? I'm a big fan, I love what you're doing.

I think it's very savvy. And I feel like you are a breath of fresh air with content. It's refreshing. Thank you. You can find me on Instagram at probably Shannon. You can find me on TikTok, probably Shannon. And you can listen to my podcast,

probably a podcast. And I am, think fuck, not on tour for much longer. So if you want listen to my podcast, probably a podcast and I am think fuck, not on tour for much longer. So if you want to check me out, I have shows coming up in Kansas City, St. Louis and Chicago. My tickets are available at my website, probablyshannon.com. So you have more shows.

In a month. So I have a month break. I do. What? I do. I really, we're filming the special. We're putting the special off. If you can't make it to any of those shows,

the special will be filmed. You are a trooper. I do an hour long set and it will be available for consumption. Good for you. Thanks. Sam. She's out here girl bossing too much.

Love you. Shannon Ford, love you. Thank you so much for coming on.