The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Solo: Q & A With Lauryn On Self Awareness, Desperate Energy, Getting Over Rejection, Investing, & Productivity

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

605: Today, Lauryn takes the mic solo with Katie Hobson to answer listener questions. She dives into everything she's been asked by her audience over the last few months & gives insight into everything people want to know. Katie & Lauryn cover topics ranging from how to balance time spent scrolling on social media and advice for young entrepreneurs, to how Lauryn manages her own company and what's in the works for The Skinny Confidential. They also explore Lauryn's current reading list, food obsessions, the exact supplements she takes, and much more. To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To subscribe to our YouTube Page click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential

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Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Aha! Fresh off my trip, we are doing a solo episode. Katie fucking Hobson has got me in the studio. She has dragged me by my hair to be here. I am jet lagged as fuck. Yes, she's barely alive. I literally had the biggest pounding headache, but we drank some electrolytes.

We had some vitamin C symbiotica, some glutathione. I did a workout and I'm here. I'm feeling okay now. Makeup, hair, nails. We're back. Yeah, we're back. I went through the car wash. Katie dragged me here and I am ready to do a solo episode. Solos are like becoming my favorite because I feel like I can really dive into the questions that you guys have and just make sure that I'm continuing to give you guys those tangible takeaways and I'm just kicking Michael off the mic lately yeah it's more fun without him sorry don't fire me to give you guys a little bit of background I have my assistant Katie here she like runs my entire life her Instagram is at hangry Hobson. She has been on a lot of the solo episodes with me. And

today she is asking a bunch of questions. She put this list together based on a bunch of your questions that you've asked. And it's just going to be like a little Q&A session. Yes, we've got all kinds of stuff. It's very random. All the things that people want to know, the, you know, creepy stuff like details. And then also some good takeaway things where obviously everyone's going to learn something today, which is always the point. So creepy questions. This is such a good time to do creepy questions because I'm a little hungover. She's a Lulu.

I'm in outer space. Yes. I'm maybe still drunk and I'm jet lagged. Yeah, this is a perfect time. Ask me all the creepy questions. I love it. I love it. Okay, so kicking it off very random and then we'll get into some good stuff later. What is like feeding your TikTok for you page right now? What is popping up that you are seeing over and over again? It's so funny because I just told you in the car that I feel the most like anxious and depressed vibes. I don't feel like I have like depression or anxiety, but I feel sort of like low when I'm consuming too much content. I correlate me consuming too much content with not feeling my best. So I really, really try to stay off

the scroll. I mean, like the other day I was sat behind a guy and I was watching him just consume content. And I was sitting there for two hours watching him because I was behind him just consume, consume. He was zooming in. He's like staring at a girl's ass. He's like looking at some random fact. He's like, you know, screenshotting a collage. And I just to observe that was super interesting because we've all done it. I've done it. You know, you get sucked in for like two hours and it was such a waste of time to observe. But at the same time, it was like a shock to my system too, because it was like, I don't want to sit and waste two hours of my day on random shit that brings nothing to my life. Of course not. So I notice the more into

social media I get and the longer I've been in this game, the less I want to consume. And I think we're going to go through a huge shift. I predict that in two years, people will be consciously taking time off their phone to protect their mental health. And I don't just mean like with anxiety and depression. I just mean like having peace of mind. It's not healthy for us to be staring at a screen when we should be outside being active or working on a project we're passionate about or being with our kids. It just really takes you out of the present moment. So what's that's like such a not what you know, that's important. But so what's on my for you page is yes, of course, I'm I consuming content because I have to like be aware of what's

happening in the space it's part of my job but I'm being very specific of when I'm consuming that content so one of my friends Brent who trains me told me that he only consumes content when he's on the Stairmaster and I thought that was genius that's so smart at least he's doing something that's really hard and he's rewarding himself with being on TikTok but then he's doing something that's really hard and he's rewarding himself with being on TikTok, but then he's not sitting for two hours just being a zombie to the content. Well, it's a good distraction. This is not the question you asked. What's on my For You page is a lot of skin, tons of skin. In fact, a lot of sheet masks, a lot of investor tips, a lot of real estate tips. They're probably listening to me and Michael speak. Lake Como is all over my For You page. And then a lot of like morning routine, Joe Dispenza.

I'm really happy about that. I was going to say your For You page sounds amazing. Yeah, it's because the phone is listening to you talk. And so it's almost like the thoughts that you have make your life. And I hope the words that I speak make my for you page. Yeah. No, I think it does. That's I mean, I think most people would say there's mostly garbage on there. So that sounds very nice. Actually, educational. If you have mostly garbage on your for you page. It's because you're consuming it. Yeah. If your for you page is just garbage, then stop talking garbage. Oh, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Stop gossiping because the phone is listening. I believe this shit. It's so creepy. No, me too. It's disgusting. I don't know. So maybe your for you page, Katie. Your for you page, though, is all cooking.

Mine's food. Yeah, it's all food. Good. I love it. Yes, I know. It's inspiring. What is your dream partnership as an influencer? If you could like wave a wand and have a partnership with any specific brand, what would it be? Oh my gosh. I don't know any of these questions before this. I know. I didn't show you anything. She didn't show me anything. Mine would probably be something that's super just a position to what I do. So I'm interested right now in collaborating with brands that are very random. I've done brands that really align with Skinny Confidential. We did canopy humidifiers and diffusers. We did dough cookie dough. Buttercream fucking sugar cookie, guys, is so good. We did spritz, which is with the Toast Girls and Boy With No Job. And we did Dry Farm Wines, which was like

a giggle water box. And those were all so aligned with the Skinny Confidential, which I loved. So I feel like I've checked that box as a creator to collab with brands that have really aligned with my mission. I am now interested in working with brands that are so goddamn random. I mean like skinny confidential times Dunkaroos. Like something that you would just like never think. Well, I think it's good to make things unexpected. It keeps it fresh, keeps people guessing. And maybe you hit a new demographic, too, that you're not currently tapping into. right now is on building out incredible products for the skinny confidential and less focused on other clubs on on co-brands not to say that there isn't something coming very very soon

there's a couple things coming that we've been working on for literally years but i'm really really laser focused and we can get into it in this into this episode on my business and you know that and I have questions I mean we can move into that if you want to if you had to give someone one top tip of course there's several I'm sure but like to grow your brand what would you say is the best way to do that or the best advice to give someone who's maybe a young entrepreneur? The most important thing that you can do is look at where you spend your time. I can look at someone's calendar and see how they spend their time and tell you where they're going to be in a year. If that was a superpower, it's not. And I could get paid for it. That would be my superpower. I can look at where people spend their time

and I can tell like, you know how they say, oh, like the five people you surround yourself with or who you're going to be. No, no, no. I think where you spend your time is where you will be in a year, where you will be in three years, where you will be in five years. Evaluate where you spend your time. And the person that really taught me that is Rob Dyrdek. He is a master of time. And I think Katie, I'm going to toot your horn for a second. Katie's been so valuable to the business because she's constantly monitoring my time. And she even like today has this whole list of things that we can do better. We are constantly editing and refining where I spend my time and how I spend my time so

I can show up in the most productive way. And I'm going to actually like I'm going to hand the baton to you and let you speak on that about time because you're so in the calendar. Right. And I think if you can put a value like not even necessarily monetary, but if you can sit down and say like, hey hey this is how much i would charge someone per hour and then if you say okay well if that hour is what i would charge somebody then what is that value to me and i think if let's say i make this is a random number let's say i make

500 an hour if i know that i'm spending that hour and someone is going to pay me for that value or I'm spending that my own energy it's like that's a lot of money like that's a lot of time invested a lot of energy invested and like you have to understand the value of your time then once you have that then go and see where that applies so like again if there's a day where you have eight hours worth of meetings it's like is this the best way for me to spend my time knowing that a monetarily it might be expensive? B, I just don't have the energy for that. And my energy is limited and I need to know exactly where I need to bank those pieces of energy. I think understanding what you bring to the table and how much it's valued is like step one.

If that makes sense. No, it makes total sense. I think it's like lays the foundation. The two biggest mistakes going off what you said are people are either wasting time by scrolling through other people's lives on social media or fucking off or watching Netflix or whatever they're doing. By the way, I'm not saying that that's, I love Real Housewives, but like it's, I'm strategic with how I consume it.

Of course, you have to be. They're either wasting their time and being flippant with it, or they're putting their time towards things that maybe don't move the needle in the direction that they want to go. And so I think just sitting down and having a really real conversation with yourself on time is important. Maybe you can give like one or two examples of how we, you know, we sat down together today for 30 minutes and you told me some things that you thought I could improve on when it comes to my time. Maybe you can give an example. Yeah. One of those is email. I think we have a lot of, um, we have a lot of like

different email addresses for different things. And I think it made sense to make those at the time the business was at maybe three, four years ago. And I think now in 2023, today, the team has evolved. The team has grown. Your time has gotten more valuable. So you need to be more mindful about where you're spending your time. And I think there are things that can be either removed, it's just not necessary anymore it's redundant or can be passed

on you know like Lainey handles all the campaign stuff I think anything campaign related once we say yes or no can just be passed off and I don't think you need to be involved in like the day-to-day ops because we already have meetings with Lainey talk about those things. And you don't like checking your email anyway. So I mean, it's like a win-win. So that's an example of something. It's like we just remove that process. It's not even required anymore. That one is such a good example. You guys are really seeing behind the scenes and I love this. I think you know me so well and you know that my time is best spent when I have creative blocks and creative writing blocks and like blocks spent with Weston, like a brainstorm with my business partner. Like, you know where it's so important for me to be so we can really move the

needle on the business. Another thing that we eliminated that I think is going to be life changing is we were doing a lot of like 15 minute calls. Yeah. Those are gone. And they were like filling up the whole day and that's sustainable until it's not. Right. And it got to the point where I was doing like, you know, several 30, 15 minute calls in a day and it was just too much. So we've eliminated the 15 minute calls and we're doing like an hour team brainstorm. And I think also delegating and passing the baton to other people so they can progress and get a raise and thrive in their position is so important. Last little business question before I'll take a hard right. What do you look for in a business as an investor? If someone says, hey, I have this brand, I would

love for you to look at this pitch deck as an investor. What are the things that you were looking for specifically? Michael and I have invested in a lot of different brands. It's something that we haven't really talked about on the podcast, but we will do an episode on investing. I sort of like fell into it because I started to be presented with all these opportunities to get equity in companies because of what I do. And I started to actually want equity, but I also wanted to put my own money in if I really believed in the brand. And I think what I've realized as an investor is you have to keep it church and state. So if I am getting equity in a brand to do posts, that's different than me investing my own money. So I've made the mistake

of not getting equity and just investing. And then the brand will come to me and want me to do all these posts. But what I say now is, if I'm investing my money, why would I then go do tons and tons of posts for free? That's different. That's a wash. Right. I look at myself as an entrepreneur, but there's also an influencer aspect to me as an investor. So if you want to utilize me as an influencer, that is different than me spending my money to invest. 100%. So it's two separate things. So what do I look for? I look for someone that understands that first and foremost because if you don't understand that I don't want to invest a bunch of money and then go do a bunch of work

that's that's going to be a no for me yes I'm not investing to do more work sure I'll promote the brand because I believe in it so much that I'm investing in it but I'm not going to be given like this scope of work to go then do all this work. So first and foremost, it's got to be someone who really understands the difference between an influencer and an investor. OK? Love it. That's so important. The second thing is I look for, they say, bet on the jockey.

Who is the person that's running the business? Right? So I want someone who is incredibly creative and understands marketing, but I also want to know who's running the business, right? So I want someone who is incredibly creative and understands marketing, but I also want to know who's running the business, right? Two-pronged approach of who the jockey is. Maybe there's two. I also think it's so important if you want to take people's money that you are able to articulate and communicate what your mission is as a brand quickly and efficiently. If I get on an investor call and it takes you 30 minutes to explain what you're doing,

that's a huge red flag. Yeah. I'm obsessed when someone gives me a pitch tied in a pink bow. And I mean like, like I can tell you what the skinny confidential is in one minute and you will understand an elevator pitch almost yeah I can't do 30 30 minute like it's overwhelming how is that gonna how is that gonna be pushed out into the world to a customer right if it takes you 30 minutes to explain to me what your brand is that's a. I also think a 75-page... This is like we're getting

really micro. Pitch deck, to me, is way overkill. When I went out to get investors, my pitch deck is very clean. It's to the point. It's constantly edited down. And then I look, what is the product? What is your unique perspective in the market? Are you disrupting a category? Does this bring a fresh new breath of air? Branding? I mean, it's a lot of different things. I'm not just someone that's like, oh, this person had a hit in 2001. I'm going to throw money at it. Or, oh, this is pretty and cute. I'm going to throw money at it. I'm very thoughtful. And I think Michael brings a super interesting perspective to the table too as sort of like my counterpart investor because he's very good with numbers. He's very good with logistics. And I think I sort of like spot the

talent in it. He evaluates the numbers. He goes through all the nitty gritty of it. Yes. You guys make a really good team. I think you have such a good eye, like creatively, I think entrepreneurially, obviously you and then Michael, of course, is so knowledgeable on that as well, but like more from an analytical perspective. And I think you two together on a meeting, I've been on several with pitches, you know, I think it's if you two can't come to a conclusion, you know, 10 minutes after into the meeting, I think it's you guys are a really good judge of all of that. People thought when I first started out, oh, you know, she's just influencer. I'm going to put her in this box like let's just get money.

And I think that I hope that as I've grown as a businesswoman that I come into it with more knowledge than when I first started because people just want to put you in a box. They're like, oh, she'll throw money at it. And you're right. Me and Michael do know 10 minutes afterwards. And if you guys want to check out some of the brands that we're invested in, we're invested in a bunch. But some of the ones that I'm just so passionate about are Chroma. So good. Chroma, I tried. And I literally was like, Lisa, I need to be an investor. Yeah. And I have their matcha every single day. I'm obsessed, obsessed, obsessed with their cranberry hydration electrolytes. It's literally the best of like spicy cranberry. Everything's spicy. And I love

that. Like not necessarily in a hot way, but it's like punchy. It's punchy. Yeah. It makes you want to drink more. It's so good. And I'm such a fan of the ingredients that I like attacked her to invest. So that was something that I actually like actively was like, I want to invest in this brand. And then Canopy, of course, I'm an investor. I'm such a big believer in how they've disrupted the humidifier industry and diffuser industry, which so much so that I literally co-branded with them. Doe, same thing. So I just love Sabina. I think she is so talented and what she's built is incredible. And then Array is another great one. That's a product that I tried, fell in love with, met the founders, Sif and Nish. And I was like, we need to invest in this.

And so those are four that I would like if you guys want to go see sort of how i invest you can see those brands and you can see the thought process around why we chose them love it i think you can use code skinny for all that i was gonna say i think every single one cranberry hydration oh that's so good electrolytes don't sell it out though because i buy like 10 a month. OK, like I said, hard right turn. We're going to do some like quick little I would call them maybe rapid fires, but of course, elaborate however you want to. What are you currently reading? Oh, my God, I'm reading the best book. I'm reading Johnny Carson's autobiography that was written by his lawyer, which is so fucked up because he died. It is really fucked up.

It's like you writing a book when I die. I'm putting that on my to-do list. Like a tell-all. Oh my God. It's seriously like such a tell-all. You would haunt me from the grave. Take notes. I would never.

I will send spies that I already hired to make sure. No, but his lawyer wrote a tell-all and I mean, it is a juicy fucking tell-all. That's gnarly. that's so cutthroat it's really good because he was a talk show host obviously and there's a lot of things that i relate to him on interviewing people obviously he was like the tonight show he was huge i'm not saying i'm like him i'm just saying no you're up there though from a micro perspective i relate to a lot of the stories that the lawyer tells. And you should read it because I relate to it. I know, I'm going to have to.

He's known as an asshole in the industry. But I kind of understand him because he gets romantic about the creativity of his job. Oh, yeah, that's you. Yeah, and the lawyer really helps him put it in perspective. You should read it. I will. It's not even that he's like such an asshole. It's that he's just so romantic about the job and less romantic about the money. And it's really interesting to read. And it talks about his, I think he had like five marriages. Oh, my God. Joan Rivers, his obsession with the tennis club which is making me

just like even love my tennis lessons even more I was gonna say tennis girly it's like Hollywood chasens back in the day all the restaurants he liked what he drank what he ate it's it's really really good and it's really well written so I'm reading that reading. God, let me pull up my Kindle. I was going to say I read like three books at once. I just got the book Cleopatra and Frankenstein, which is about, I think, a love story in New York. I haven't started it. So that's when I heard was really good. My friend Emma recommended it. And then I also just bought the book Thief. I'll keep you posted. And then I finished recently all of Andy Cohen's books. So I read The Daddy Diaries, The Andy Cohen Diaries, and then The Most Talkative. And I'm obsessed with it because he formed the books, at least the two

diaries, off Andy Warhol's diaries. And it's basically just his stream of consciousness that's and everything he thinks so like he writes down like what he thought of the cab driver and like what his doorman's doing and like what he ate for dinner and and what he thought of this housewife and how he went to dinner at kelly ripa's and it's you get into this flow where you're reading it and it's really like reading his private diary that's it was really good that's an it and it's really like reading his private diary. That's super cool. It was really good. That's an interesting concept. It was really, really good. I would highly recommend. And then the other book that I

just finished that I loved that I highly recommend is called My Story by Marilyn Monroe. And it's so good because it's her writing it. And I'm not going to give away what happens in the middle, but it's wild. Go read it. And then lastly, I just finished and highly recommend Brooke Shields book. Ooh, nice. There was a little girl. Really beautifully written. I read her other books about postpartum depression like 10 years ago. And I just finished. There was a Little Girl. And it was about her complicated relationship with her mother and how she loved her mother but hated her mother.

And I thought it was really profound, really good. So those are the books that I'm going through right now. Good. What is your current food obsession? What do you think I'm going to say? Meat. I just ate a bowl of force of nature. More beef.

I am on this weight loss journey right now. I am still losing weight from towns. I'm almost to my goal. And meat has really helped me get there. So what I've noticed is the more meat I eat, the more I crave meat. And I've also noticed my hair grows 10 times faster. It's thicker. I'm not having to wear extensions. My nails are stronger. My skin is clearer. I have more energy and my body craves protein. I work out a lot and I just love beef.

Yeah. And we went into that with your weight training and protein episode too. Like a lot more detail. If anyone's interested in that episode, I'll find the episode number two. And what's another like upset? I really love Hugh chocolate, almond butter, quinoa. It's like crunchy. And I have a couple of squares of that every single night with a magnesium water and it's heaven. It's like the perfect sweet treat to wind down with because obviously chocolate has magnesium and then I have my magnesium water and I look forward to it every single night. And I feel like it doesn't make me crave a bunch of sweets during the day. And I've made like a healthy little habit stack with Zaza. She's like, mom, where's my magnesium water? Can I have a bite of chocolate? It's like a healthy little habit stack with Zaza. She's like, mom, where's my magnesium water?

Can I have a bite of chocolate? It's like a little wind down that we do. So those are my obsessions right now. Beautiful. What is your favorite cocktail if you're having a drink? What are you into right now? Okay. Get specific. I'm going to. Because I am committed to losing this last 10 pounds. And this has been life-changing. It is tequila on the rocks. What tequila? Costa Amigos, like Fortaleza. I'm not too picky.

Just like a good tequila. Okay. I'm not psycho about that. I like it in a tall glass with lots of rocks. I would love a rim of tajin if they have it. Then I want a shot of tequila in it. And then I want an inch of lemon or lime juice. Yes, I switch it up.

Sometimes it's lemon tequila. Sometimes it's lime topped with Perrier. It could be Pllegrino too it has to be pellegrino or perrier because topo chico has so much bad shit in it that i've read don't tell me that and also soda water from the gun is not good but here's the deal because the pellegrino or the perries in it it makes you not that hungover because you're getting all that water and it's like really great sparkling. It has a little sodium and minerals. So then you've got the inch of lemon or lime, which is alkalizing in the system. And it kind of tastes like a margarita. Yeah. And people are like, oh, it's a ranch water. I was going to say or a ranch water. It kind of is, but it's like a bougie ranch water because you got the half rim of tahini you have the spot the good sparkling

water i actually asked if we're gonna get so detailed do it this is how i order it i think i've done with you before go ahead may i please do it may i please have a tall glass filled with ice with a shot of casamigos and then i would love a rim of tahini if you have it and then a side bottle of perrier or pellegrino easy and then can i also get a shot of lemon or lime juice so sometimes i'll do like the tequila, lemon, fizzy situation, or I'll do... That's not very difficult though. It's not difficult.

And it's actually just like a three-parter. The tequila on the rocks in a tall glass with a rim of tahini and then a shot of lemon or lime juice and then the Perrier. Yeah. So it's like I'm ordering my water. I'm ordering the shot.

And then you mix it at the table yourself. And then I make it at the table myself. I mean, you're doing most of the work for them. They should be happy. And you also want fresh lemon or lime juice if they can squeeze it. Awesome. That's perfect. So with having a cocktail, you're like now going into restaurants or whatever.

Where are your favorite spots in Austin, LA and or New York? Anything you can think of off the top of your head to eat, to have a date night, to go out, have a drink, whatever. Here's my thing with Austin. When I'm in Austin, this is like my sanctuary where I'm really not drinking that much. I'm busting my ass. I'm committed to my business. I want to be in office. I want to grow my team. I want to be in bed at fucking 730 at night with a Kindle with some red lights and 528 hertz. It's a very like what I've realized about Austin is it regulates my nervous system. And I want to talk your home.

Yes. And I want to talk more about the nervous system because I've realized through a lot of trial and error with wellnessy things that at the core of it, the most important thing that you can do for yourself is to regulate your nervous system. Everything in this world is committed to fucking with your nervous system. These lights above us, the cameras in our face, your phone in your face, the headphones, the loud noise, the alarm clock, the ping on your computer that i can't want to slip my wrists it's just i can't i can't but i my favorite thing is to regulate my nervous system and if i can do that when i'm in austin that's the move but if i go out for an occasional cocktail

which we do we have like a date night we do jeffrey's bottle of red wine and steak amazing yeah i love commodore perry i you have gone there multiple times with me for like 300 margaritas pancakes and the pancakes the bacon the tacos are incredible and the vibe is just very it's very european and i like that it's very airy there and then where else i love like sun life but that's not no i mean that's not drinking i love sun life the bone broth the spicy bone broth you cannot go wrong they have amazing smoothies and then other than that i mean where else do i go here i'm like i mean not really move to la there's more fun stuff in la.A. that you like.

L.A. Sunset Tower for dinner is incredible. On the patio. On the patio. Beverly Hills Hotel is just great for a fun dinner with lots of champagne. Craig's, their cookies are amazing. I love Madeo. Italian food, so good. And then, oh, Giorgio Baldi, iconic in Santa Monica.

The pasta there, they do like a three pasta sampler. You guys, if you're there, go get it. It's like a spicy pasta. I think it's a pesto pasta. It's really, really worth the drive if you're in a West Hollywood. And it's just an incredible restaurant. There's also this place by Giorgio Baldi that has amazing pasta, but I can't think of the name. If you know the name, DM me. It has the best pasta. I want to say it's called Felix. But Giorgio Baldi is amazing. Go there. It's in Santa Monica. Go get a bottle of Brunello and the pasta sampler. And then New York, there's so many good restaurants in New York. I feel like you can't go wrong. I love the King Cole bar. They have like an insane Bloody Mary. I love the Polo bar.

I was just going to say the Polo bar. Yeah. That's probably my favorite. They have these fried green olives that you get when you sit at the bar and you have a martini and then they have an incredible burger. I was just in Milan and went there too. Their branding is so consistent. The restaurant is so consistent and the burger there is just one of the best burgers I've ever had. So anywhere where there's a Polo Ralph Lauren restaurant, go. I think there's one in Chicago, Paris. It's insane. Scalinatelli. Yeah. Am I pronouncing that right? Who knows? Scalinatelli, I think. I'm not pronouncing it right, but that's not important. And they're old school. You have to call and make a reservation there. I love it. They're old school. I know all

the waiters there. They know your name. It's like a martini, a bottle of wine. Again, pasta sampler. They have a truffle pasta where they fucking shave the truffles all over your face. It's so good. Blake Lively says if she was deserted on a desert island, that's where she would go for pasta. I'm obviously a big Italian person when I go to New York City. And then I love the really iconic bars. Good. Well, everyone, that's like 10 recommendations. If you're in these different spots, which is good. What are the top five supplements you can't live without? Symbiotica. I'm going to go with the vitamin C, glutathione, and the magnesium spray. Okay. Those three are my favorites. That's one. Ritual multivitamin every single day. Minty fresh. Love. Just thrive probiotic. Take it every single day. Array if you're bloated.

Yep. Incredible. Especially like if I eat pasta at night or pizza, no brainer. And when I fly, when you're puffy, it's just such a great one because it's all natural. And then number five is going to be Kion Aminos, the mango flavor. I do a scoop every single day in my water, and then I'll do a scoop of creatine in it too. And if I was going to add an extra, I would do magnesium powder. Yeah. Magnesium, you can get from JS Health. She has a good one. Moon Juice has a good one. So does Thorne. Those three are great brands. And probably Code Skinny on most of those. I think it's all Code Skinny. And every single one of those brands are brands that I believe in so much that I ended up working with them or investing. So those are my favorites.

I've really done my research on what actually works because I'm not going to be ingesting something every single day and having my kids ingest it. Yes. It's not 100%. Zaza and Towns Today both had the Symbiotica B12 and the Symbiotica Vitamin D. I squirted it in their mouth, squirted it in their mouth squirted in my mouth like symbiotic has just creme de la creme i also sorry do love kington it's by water and wellness yeah it's like the little minerals that's good too yeah those are good i know you guys are always cracking those we're cracking those open i've cut my finger but that's okay because i'm getting my minerals in what is your who or who is your dream podcast guest put it out dead or alive i mean

either one carolyn kennedy bassett dead dead alive also i'd love to interview johnny carson oh well yeah alive howard stern would be fun that would be amazing chris jenner just not even to talk to her about gossip or her family i just am dying to interview her on her schedule oh i would i want to know like i would give up my firstborn to get the answers to that ins and outs of like how she plans her pantry and like who is like coordinating the closet like who's her team even who's her team how does she hire how does she fire i'm just obsessed with the infrastructure of chris jenner and what it takes to be such a high performer yeah i don't even think i would ask her one question about anything other than like her routines.

I would die for that. Yeah, I would die for that. And then I would die, die, die to interview Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We'll get a letter in the mail. How do you deal with desperate energy? I have a really, really strong opinion on desperate energy. I was saving this for the middle. It's a topic that I haven't talked about enough and I will. I have a whole thesis on it.

But I think it is the number one thing that is in people's way when it comes to dating relationships, friendships, and business deals. And I promise you guys I will get into it more because again, I have a book report on it. But what I would say that if you're leaning in and chasing something and it's not chasing you back, you got to lean out. 100%. You know that book, Lean In? Yes. I'm going to write Lean Out. My thing is a person that wants to be with you will chase you not the other way around and if you're constantly giving off a smell it's a smell and everyone knows what i'm talking about of desperation it will turn people off yeah Yeah. And so I think there's a way to come to the table, even in a business deal where it's like,

I have my leverage, you have your leverage. We're going to come together and we're going to create something amazing, but we don't need each other. Right. And guess what? I don't want to need anyone. I don't want to need my husband.

And I want to remind him of this. To this day, we are married for a zillion years. I constantly am still reminding him. At Michael Bostic. Yeah, like he still needs to be chasing me. I still want to be pursued. And I think that when you put that energy out there, people feel it.

It's like a vibration. So what do you do to like deflect? I think what you do is you focus on yourself and you focus on your own confidence and your own self-worth and your own purpose and you build a really strong foundation so you don't need anyone to get to the next level. You of course like it's great to collaborate and it's great to network together and network but when people feel that you need something from them it's fatiguing it's a turnoff it's not who you want to be around even in a friendship like if i have friends that are texting me over and over and over question mark question mark question it's like it's too much i think get busy get a

hobby well that was i was gonna say is is if you're being desperate maybe you're not busy enough and i think that putting that desperate energy towards something else might be beneficial like do some research by the the way, this is not... Learn something. I'm not like making fun of people. This is something that literally anyone could stop right this minute. Oh yeah.

Stop writing 40 page emails. That's desperate. And replying 15 times in a week if you haven't gotten a response. Yeah, stop. Just stop invading people's personal space. Sometimes I send a text and I don't get a text back from someone for a month. And that's okay because I've infringed on their time so they can respond on their own time. I don't take it

personally. And I just think if we could get to a space where we're so comfortable in our own skin and so confident in ourselves, then we don't really need anyone but ourselves. And that energy is what attracts. Sure. Well, and you can't rely on people either. It's like, you know, I think eventually you have to stand alone because people do come and go in business and relationships and friendships and everywhere. And I think if you're not confident and you're not strong enough to be singular and you've relied on other people, then you're going to be in some trouble. You're 100% right. People come and go and you can't rely on other people to do it for you. And you really have to find self-assurance.

And again, it's something anyone can do that is listening. It's also catching yourself when you are acting desperate. Like, you know, maybe you go to a networking event and you're like up in someone's space. You can feel it when someone's like, it's too much. Yeah. Oh yeah. And listen, I'm not perfect at this. Like there, there's been times, like I said, we'll do a book report on it when I was younger, where I did, I did it wrong, but I learned quickly and I adjusted. And I think it's really important to also watch other people's behaviors around you and pinpoint what is desperate and what is not

and adjust accordingly with your own behavior. Right. That's some really tough love. Yeah. No, that's some tough love. Listen. It's good though. This ain't for everyone.

This is not going to be for everyone. That's the best love. People are turning me off right now. But it's really self-aware. Yes. Self-awareness is like the key to everything. I feel like I'm always checking myself, overthinking things like, was that too much? Was that not enough? Like, what was that

response? You know what I mean? It's like, if you're not having a huge internal monologue. Yeah. Go read Andy Cohen's book. Yeah. You need to sit down and find God. Self-awareness is a really important skill. Yes. Let's talk more about that in 2023. Do you manifest these days, whether that's in your meditation or just speaking out loud to the universe, writing things in a journal? Do you manifest? I don't know if my word is manifest. I would say my word is visualize.

Okay. Manifest is like, to me, this is my interpretation. Manifest is like, I'm in a manifest that I'm in a growin' itch. It feels very without action. Does that make sense? Yes. I'm going to grow an inch. Like it feels like very like without action. Does that make sense? Yes. It doesn't.

It feels like you're just like thinking your way through life, which is great to think amazing positive thoughts, but thinking is not enough. It needs to be mixed with execution. You got to move. The visualization for me helps me execute on what I want. So every single morning, really, really try to hit every morning. This morning, I laid in bed before my kids got up. I was jet lagged for 30 minutes. And I just visualized

what I want in my business, what I need in my business, what needs to happen in the future, my family life. I visualize everything I want. And I also visualize like weird little things. It could be like even I'm going to give you guys something like so little. It could be like how I want a trip with my friends to go and how I want to show up. Like really, this is this is what my inner monologue is going off what you said. I don't want to be on my phone the entire time I'm with my friends. So how am I going to combat that? I don't want to be on my phone the entire time I'm with my friends. So how am I going to combat that? I'm not going to go on a beautiful trip like I just went on. With your head down.

No, I'm just not going to do it. But that is a thought out visualization. It's not just something that comes to me naturally. Because what I do for a living is on my phone. So I will sit in a meditation and I will be like, okay, I'm going on this trip for two weeks. I want to be really present. I don't want to be on my phone. If I'm with my kids, how can I find pockets to try not to be on my phone in front of them all the time? Again, constantly refining, I'm not perfect at it. How do I want to show up even on social media during this trip? Am I taking taking some days off i'm just

very thought out and visual visualizing how my future looks and so i don't know if that's manifesting i think it's a form of it i mean you're you're setting your intentions yeah and i think that is what manifesting is so yes i think that's a a different you know realm of manifesting but a manifestation everyone always visualization yeah everyone always wants to talk about manifesting you know but yes action is needed action is needed yeah the the visualization is really important and then as far as manifesting i'm always writing down on big poster boards yes and my notes app where where i need to be like i have this is a really good tip that Michael taught me. I have every single month

lined up for the next three years in my notes app. And under each month is a goal I want to hit. So it could be a goal that's like, it could be a stupid goal, like a little goal, but each month is a goal and I can go in and check off when I hit the goals. That's cool. It's really helped because it's putting the little tiny things down

and making it digestible with the months. Does that make sense? Yes. So it's like January 2023, I want to write a book proposal right and like like and then I can check like check that off well it's just like a little step in a grand plan yeah you know and I think making it digestible is probably what I think most people don't do or people get very ambitious and they make you know 15 things for by this deadline and I think you know I mean

yes sometimes you have to hustle things along but i think making it digestible and making it a small and meaningful list is probably the better route yeah and then you can also see the full picture when you make the list and you don't have all these abandoned projects oh yeah i've got i don't have a graveyard no write the write your mind not anymore not anymore oh no yeah once i got serious about my like life and what i want and you know like i know how are you what do you mean you have abandoned projects no i do like it was when i was younger you know weird dreams weird ambitions but yeah you get older you learn things and yeah i follow through now what is the best tip on how to handle rejection and that might be in dating maybe it's

in business maybe you didn't get the job you wanted what's your best tip for this is a theory that i've had since i was little i literally came out of the womb with this theory okay this this theory is like the theory that i live by with rejection. I don't want something or someone that does not want to be around me or want... Preach. I don't understand even having a conversation about it. I wouldn't want to be with a person that doesn't want to be with me 100%. I just wouldn't. I don't know. Why do I want to convince someone to want to be around me? Yeah. And same, I think that goes right along with too, and applying for jobs and getting rejected. It's like, if they didn't want you, then get out. You know, I don't, I don't,

moving on, you know, it's, it's just a waste of your energy to try to convince someone or something or some job to have you when it's not a fit. Every single rejection that I've ever had in my life has created another opening somewhere else. It's totally normal and natural to feel upset and wallow in rejection. And I think that, you know, take a moment and do that. Take a day. Okay. But what's most important is that you're able to get back on your two feet and recover. The recovery is what makes you relentless. And it sort of like builds the muscle to be able to handle rejection in the first place. So take your day, be bummed, be thoughtful. And then the next morning, wake up and it's like on to the next. Sure. That makes sense. What is the best business move you ever made for the Skinny Confidential or the Him and Her Show? Or maybe it is the Him and Her Show. I don't know. The best business move that I've ever made is starting a podcast because

a podcast is so synergistic to my personality. I can only look at photos of myself for so like it's boring to me. It's like and so that's not sustainable to just be posting photos of myself all the time. I post photos of myself to support what I do for a living, but I don't want that to be my main cake. Sure. It could be the sprinkles. So starting a podcast to talk on a mic, I'm an oversharer. I love interviewing people. It just feels very much me. So the podcast is really been a great move for the brand. But also I just love the intimacy in the audience's ear. It feels very connected now when I run into someone who listens to the show because I get to know all about them when I run into them.

And it's like almost like we've like skipped the formalities. Yes. You feel like you know each other. Yeah. Because you know what they're interested in if they're listening the formalities. Yes. You feel like you know each other almost. Because you know what they're interested in if they're listening to your show. Yeah. And I also think like they already know a lot about me

from listening to the show. So then they can tell me all about them. Yes. And that's fun to be able to have that interaction. And then basing that rolled into launching a network, Dear Media. Yep. Which has been like the wildest ride. And then being able to launch the product line while having the podcast, it was like content marketing for the product line. So it all sort of like fit together. It does. And it's weird because I don't think there's any other model like that that I know of

where you have that little synergistic like circle of outlets that work together you know what I mean like it is very unique in that sense and it works it works it flows and it's been a wild ride you can write my book when I die yes I can't wait to do that with all the secrets what was the last thing you ordered on Postmates? Two Khalil-style spicy bone broths. Mm-hmm. One tropical mango smoothie. Add chia seed. No juice.

Sub water. A celery juice. Add cayenne and lemon. Mm-hmm. And this is for Zaza very specific mom I want an oatmeal with no peanut butter extra chocolate they have like a cacao chocolate sauce and chia seed yummy and this is all from Sun Life and I order from them all the time. My kids love it. And it's just the best. And sometimes I'll take their bone broth and like heat it up and add rosemary and make it like romanticize it.

It's very good. Love it. What was the last thing you ordered on Amazon? I think I made the last thing. I have a little bit of an Amazon problem. What is the last thing I ordered on Amazon? I'm going to put this in my storefront of what I ordered. I ordered Epsom salt, but it's organic.

Organic baking soda with no aluminum and lavender essential oil because I'm going to make a bath that was recommended to fight jet lag. Nice. I then ordered hot pink shorts that lift your ass. Amazing. I'll put those in my storefront. And then I ordered, okay, so it's like a sheet mask, but it's cut up in squares. Okay. You're going to be obsessed with this. And instead of like having to apply the whole sheet mask, you're like running out the door. You got to go.

You take the pads and you put like a pad on your cheek, a pad on your other cheek and a pad on your forehead. And it's by a Korean brand. I'll put it in my storefront. And then I also ordered just giving you two more. We love the extra credit. This vanity mirror that is like the best lighting ever. And you can put it on your vanity or your desk. I'm going to put it on my desk in my office.

Got it. So you have like amazing light, but the mirror stands up so it's not falling. And you just have perfect light. And then the last thing I ordered and you opened it was this white rose gold handheld steamer. Oh, yeah, that's cute. I might order that too. You should order it. It's so good. And you can steam your clothes because I can't with wrinkled clothes anymore. It looks like a Nerf gun. It looks like a Nerf gun it looks like a nerf gun it's really really pretty and it has like 2 000 reviews on amazon and it basically just steams your clothes and removes the wrinkles and i'm really into white and cream right now because right now well it's just like a calming

color in my house no i love it what is your favorite quality about zaza and towns right now at the stage that they're in like what's something funny that you're just like dying for i mean i know you are obsessed with them but what's like a weird little personality trait that you see coming through that you're like oh my god like my kids are developing their like personalities zaza is so fun to have a full conversation with now and we make up songs like we have made up songs that we made up like they're not based on anything they're literally made up and she will sing me back the made up song and then i'll sing a song and then she'll like sing another lyric that she made up so we have like made up songs and that's really fun and her personality is just so bossy but like cute bossy yes and i love teaching her

things so like right now we say what is there no you've heard her say this i say what is there no and she says there's no whining and there's no screaming and there's no biting because towns bite sometimes so like we we just have like all of these like little inside jokes and then we also have little routines that we do like every morning she asked me for a vitamin i'll give her like a high health vitamin or she has her vitamin water at night i think it's really cute to like give them little things like she will cut her own food with her plastic knife just there's like little moments throughout the day of little traditions that i that i hope that she remembers when she's older

i try to make like every thing that i possibly can fun because i do work a lot so i'm like how can we make things special that should be like normal i did this thing where i took her toys i'm gonna post this on instagram i took her toys and i froze all her toys in a huge bucket and they were frozen toys like from the movie and so the next morning i woke up and i was like elsa froze your toys oh my god and i bought her like a tool set the night before. And so I said, okay, let's go outside and chisel these toys.

I'm crying because it's like anything to distract them. Oh my God. So for like 20 minutes, she's like chopping away. I put the Elsa frozen song on. It's like chopping her ice and she's chopping her ice and getting the toys out. That's probably more exciting than Santa Claus. It took 30 minutes. It was so, and song on it's like chopping her ice and she's chopping her ice and getting the toys out that's probably more exciting than santa claus it took 30 minutes it was so and then she has like brand

new elsa figurines within so i found that on tiktok to do that's genius yes that was really fun it's not my idea i found it on tiktok but so just like the routines and little rituals i love towns is an absolute savage my favorite thing with towns right now is i say besito which means kiss in spanish and he gives me a kiss and then claps for himself and he he's repeating words so like i'll be like thank you and he'll say thank you he said your name today yes he did yeah like a lot like 150 times it was so cute he is hanging from the goddamn ceiling don't goddamn ceiling it is like so different having a boy than a girl he really is like everywhere into everything hitting like anything down that he broke my

candle like it's just like very heavy energy it's lumbering like michael and then i like to walk with him in the morning if i can and that's's like a special time. Those are my standouts. They're getting so big. It's crazy. I know. Again, not so much of a hard left turn, but what's your best or your favorite quality about Michael? As a father, as a husband, as a businessman,

whatever comes to mind. Michael is the most capable person I've ever met in my entire life. And that is by far, hands down, he has more capability than anyone I've ever met in my entire life. And that is by far, hands down, he has more capability than anyone I've ever seen. I didn't know that marrying him. I've realized it as I've been married to him that he is so capable in a bad situation, a good situation, in planning a trip, in doing things for his family. He will kill the tiger. He will bring it back. He will skin it. He will fillet it. He will cook it and he will

have it on the table. And I don't mean like actually cook. I mean like he's just capable. And I think that's such a sexy quality. It's a good one. I mean, that's I mean, you get to just kind of kick back sometimes and let him drive you know his side of the street is so clean you could eat it it's so pristine and then he will come over and clean my side of the street and Zaza in town side of the street and like be looking for the next street to clean he's so capable I mean his mom is a half Japanese and I think she really instilled that in him I think that quality is a great quality to instill in your kids. He's very resourceful. But yeah, he gets shit done. And Katie and Michael got together in their little huddle, teamed up, and they basically sequestered, is that the right word? Me to a random office in the middle of nowhere in Austin

to get my global entry renewed or some shit. I don't even know what you guys were doing. TSA pre-check. Okay, whatever. And I didn't even know what I was doing. Michael's grabbing my thumb to put my thumbprint on and helping me sign my signature. And that is Michael Bostic.

He's dragging me to get his to-do list done. So it can make his life easier ultimately because he doesn't want to wait in a line. Yes. That was strategic. We ambushed you on that one, but it works. Just get in the car. I love it. Well, to round everything out, I feel like this is a great one to end on. I know you're going to answer this perfectly and it's going to translate to more than just what the topic is, but how do you get out of a creative rut? If you're feeling like you're just not getting it, you're not connecting to your creativity, what do you do to kind of combat that and get out of that funk? I am in a creative rut all the time.

There's this misconception that I think creative people are always creative. I'm in a creative rut all the time. I get burnt out. I get tired. And how I get out of it is very, very simple. It's putting one foot in front of the other. And instead of looking at the whole pie, looking at the piece of the pie one by one. So let's say I wake up. I'm completely overwhelmed. I have 5,000 things to do. The last fucking thing I'm going to do is check my text messages because that's going to put me on a spiral. The first thing I'm going to do is meditate. Smart. Okay. I'm not going to get on the roller coaster yet. So first I'm going to meditate. Then I'm going to make the bed. Then I'm going to get my lemon water. I'm going to open the shades. I'm going to move my body. I'm going to brush my teeth.

I'm going to clean my space. So see what I did there? Instead of, let me give you the other thing I could do. Waking up, leaning into the stress, yelling at Michael, getting on my phone, reacting to everyone, laying in bed, scrolling on Instagram, freaking out, not making my bed, not moving my body, not drinking water, not opening the shades. And looking at that blue light. Looking at the blue light and I'm sitting in bed on my phone like a nutcase. That is not what I'm going to do. That is what I would have done when I was 25. I don't do that anymore.

I wake up and I realize those little tiny moments that I have in my toolbox, the screws and the bolts, the moving my body, the water, the getting to the gym, the, okay, what's most important. Using my planner that I have, the prompt that I have in that planner, you guys, that I have on the Skinny Confidential, that prompt helps me when I'm in any kind of rut because it's like, okay, it's one page. What is the meditation of the day? What is the the book what are the three most important things what is my to-do list get it out in my brain on the page it's not getting on the phone getting on the text getting on the email it's it's just doing the little things to get your head right

so you're effective and efficient and running your business like an athlete when you have to get into it. If I were to wake up and just sit in bed and scroll my phone and freak out and be depressed and talk about how I'm in a creative rut, that is not productive. And what I've realized is it's the little things in your routine that put you back on track. If you don't have the little things, it's impossible to get back on track. So when I wake up and I'm depressed, I'm anxious, I'm stressed out, maybe I'm hungover, whatever it is, it's getting up. It's doing the little moments to get my head back on the right track. That makes sense. It's the little things showing up day after day after day, chipping away. And that is, trust me, after many years

of doing it the wrong way. Chipping away like the Elsa frozen bucket. Chopping my ice like ice chopper. Well, I think that's a great spot to end. You guys always come through with some great questions. I feel like that was very well-rounded. Creepy questions part two. Let me know on my latest Instagram post at Lauren Bostic. I will send three of you that send a creepy question in the planner. The planner is so good. It's on shopskinnyconfidential.com. And Katie, where can everyone find you? Make you make your sourdough. Oh my God. At Hangry Hobson.

Also, if you liked this episode, you can go listen to my other solo episodes with Katie. We've done three so far. We did one on habit stacking. We did one on my weight loss postpartum journey. And then we did this one, the Q&A. And then recently I recorded one on leveling up. So if you liked the energy of this episode and you want to take it to the next level in any area of your life, search the Skinny Confidential leveling up.

Katie, thanks for coming. And I will post Zaza's moment on Instagram. Yeah, I'm going to go chop some ice. See ya.