The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Sophia Stallone & Sistine Stallone - Dating In The Modern Age, Growing Up Stallone, How To Attract, & Dating App Issues

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her. Aha! And I think the biggest thing was that my mom was like, be confident in yourself and your own life. But you don't have to feel like you need to act a certain way to make people believe that you are that. Like, just be that.

If you're already satisfied with your family, your friends, yourself, your career, you're not going to feel like you need to judge or treat anyone poorly. What's the saying? They say the super wealthy, you don't even know they're wealthy. And then the ones who aren't as wealthy,

they flaunt the most their wealth. It's sort of the same thing. Oh my God. We have the Stallone sisters, Sistine and Sophia on the show thing. Oh my God. We have the Stallone sisters, Sistine and Sophia on the show today. We went to New York City and had the best time interviewing them. This is a super thoughtful, fun discussion that's real. It's just a real conversation. I personally really enjoyed them. I think that they're so down to earth, especially given the family that they come from.

It's so refreshing to meet them in person. I'm inspired by them as a mother. I wanted their parents' tips. I wanted to hear their experience. I just wanted to hear all the different layers of what it was like growing up as a Stallone. I also do want to say I was incredibly impressed by both of their resumes. They're intelligent. They're curious. They're readers. They're writers. And I think you guys will really enjoy getting to know them. They're also the co-host of Unwaxed Podcast. With that, welcome to the show, Sophia and Sistine Stallone. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Taylor is very excited for this one. He was wearing a gray trench yesterday and he tested it out.

He tested the waters. But I told him for you guys, he should wear something different. So this is a pre-planned look. What do you guys, what would you rate it? It's definitely different. And it's a little bit of ironing but other than that i don't love a man with a lot of patterns on his shirt like that another miss another day but you guys just keep it simple that's the secret that is the secret michael's keeping

it simple michael's really into navy right now because i told him navy was cool i love navy lauren thinks she discovered the color navy again it's insane i honestly think you're rebooting it i'm rebooting what is what is the saying navy is the is the black of the wealthy is it yes she's thinking that she can't wear black i love black i wear black all the time and now he's like so wealthy people don I wear black all the time. And now he's like wearing navy. So wealthy people don't wear black, they wear navy. Yes. It is given old money. It's insane to me that she thinks that she discovered navy.

I'm like, this is like one of the most common colors. I don't see it a lot. Come on, guys. I don't either. It's great. Navy's amazing. I just got a navy phone collar. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. We're so excited to have both of you guys here.

We've wanted to interview you for a while. We're so excited to have both of you guys here. We've wanted to interview you for a while. Yeah, well, same. I cannot believe we're actually sitting here because we go back a little bit. Yes. But you guys were just the podcast that was our mecca, our God. Like we looked up to you guys when we were starting our show. So it's really crazy to be. Yeah. How long ago did you guys start your show? Oh, God. Four years ago. 2020. Yeah. It was really during COVID. We had this idea. I had this idea.

I wanted to interview authors and all these very serious people. And then so she came in and kept saying boring until the point where locking down with her was the only other option was to have her on the show. Well, Sophia, you need me. We do need each other. I'm not going to lie.

She definitely balances me out. Yeah. I'm more of the serious older sister and she gives off like the young fun vibe. How many years different? 28 and 26. So two years. Yeah. One thing that strikes me as so interesting about both you guys is you seem like really hard workers who are willing to put in the reps. And I feel like you guys almost, you know, both of your parents, you could sit back and sort of relax a little bit and you don't. Is that instilled in you from a young age from both of your parents to be so disciplined? Absolutely. We definitely have a lot to prove, I think, with the name that we were born into.

And Sophie and I always say we were so lucky and we are so lucky to be given this beautiful, amazing life and parents that are such hard workers and put so much into raising us that it would be such a waste if we didn't do something at least to make them proud and show them. So we feel kind of in debt to like make sure that they know that what they've done is actually paying off like all of our education, all the time spent with us and also having two parents. My mom is also one of seven, didn't grow up with a dad. She had nothing and made a huge skincare company when she was 26. I made a billion dollars in sales. So we've had two very ambitious, hardworking from the ground up parents. And I think that was also very different in comparison to a lot of kids. I think that we're kind of raised sometimes with money where our parents are like, you have to

understand, you have to earn it. You can't say you're no pleases and thank yous. You have to be courteous. So we're very much heading in terms of when it comes to career. We're very, very, very passionate about it. Yeah. Wrong. I think if my daughter Zaza grew up like you guys, and I told you this at dinner too, I would be so happy. So I'm, I'm really interested in the things that your parents did to make you guys like this. Like when you go, when you look back, when you're really young, besides like manners and the obvious things, what are things that you look back on and you're like, oh my God, I'm so happy my parents did this. Oh my God. I think it's really important to have a good balance. My dad was super funny, super goofy. He kind of felt like another sibling a lot of the time. Like he wasn't very strict on

homework or school or anything like that. The only thing he was very strict on was boyfriends and curfew. My mom was the military leader in the household. She was making sure every single night for the last 20 years, 530 dinner, homework. I mean, it was, yeah, it was a lot to try to keep us well-rounded with like the sports and this and that. But I don't, looking back on my childhood, it was very fun. But I mean, it was, it was a lot to try to keep us well-rounded with like the sports and this and that, but I don't, looking back on my childhood, it was very fun. But I will say it was a lot of routine. I would say the biggest thing that they did for us was my parents are in the industry. And I think a lot of young kids, when they have parents that are in the industry, they end up going into it very early. They kept us pretty much under wraps until we were 18 or even going to

college. Like I didn't really start this until I graduated and I think having dinner every single night together at five o'clock being super open and vulnerable about everything like we talk to our dads about boys especially we talk to our mom about boys and I think having that very big transparency with each other and honesty and keeping tabs has been the biggest help for us honestly what was the routine like okay what do you mean oh my mean there's two routines there's a sly routine and a jennifer i want to hear each routine sly's is i i don't even know if there's a word to describe how unusual it was um i won't we'll get into diet after but i'm not kidding when i say this literally Literally. We would wake up before school.

He'd probably wake us up around 6 a.m., maybe like 5.45 in the morning. And we're like in second, third, fourth grade. Did he ever wake you up to the Rocky soundtrack? No, but he would come in our room and do the loudest rooster noise on the top of his lungs. Like, scream. It was awful.

And then he would make us do Clean and jerks with like a bar. Oh, that's rad. Yeah, we would do I'm getting some inspiration here. I'm going to start pro-ing like a rooster and making those clean jerks. We had a six pack

when we were in third grade. I swear to God. We did what, clean and jerks? We would have to throw a shot put. Yeah, 12 push-ups, 12 sit-ups, eggs with, what was it, ketchup?

Ketchup, disgusting. We had to do pool table a little bit this is all before school i swear to god and then when we got home from school it was we had to read for an hour into a tape recorder every single day and we tried to hack the system and we got caught so he does listen why tape recorder so that he you could prove to him that he really wanted us to enunciate because he was born with a slur. So he wanted us to really use our voice. And we would have to recite like Edgar Allan Poe in fifth grade.

Like it was so ridiculous. But yeah, I think those are kind of cool flexes to have now. Yeah, I think it was after the fact. Now getting older, I respect it a lot because it's made me a very disciplined person. But it was at the time we hated it. But I think a lot of the things we do well today are because they really told us, okay, we have to read out loud. Now we are very chatty. We can come back and be sharp-witted. We are super active. It's funny because my dad, you would

not expect him to love having daughters, but he loves being a total girl dad. And him just wanting us to be professional shot putters is, I feel such a male random i could see him loving having daughters i mean listen we were joking when we went to dinner about you know guys and dating you and what they i imagine i mean your dad is one of the poster people for masculinity like it might be nice to have some feminine energy i mean he's rambo yeah but super masculine men are so confident and so comfortable with themselves like him that I feel like it makes sense to me that he loves having daughters. And I have to say something. My mouth tape is stuck to the bottom of your shoe. Stuck to the bottom of your shoe. Unstick.

It's ridiculous. I mouth tape every night. She leaves these things around the bedroom. Best thing in the world. It's changed everything. I know it's the best thing. That's ridiculous. I mouth sweep every night. She leaves these things around the bedroom. The best thing in the world. It's changed everything. I know it's the best thing. That's really funny. But I think that because he is so masculine, there's probably a confidence that comes along with that.

The daughter thing makes sense to me. Yeah, and I also think him being an artist makes him emotionally available for speaking with his daughters about deeper things. He is a macho man on screen, but to be on screen, you have to be a bit artistic. And I think that was another really fun side of him was having this very macho father, but who would make us do sit-ups and push-ups.

But then he was very artistic where he would teach us about Edgar Allan Poe. We would sit every Sunday night watching films from back in the day, and he would dissect it from directing to producing to editing to music and it really made us like love this industry and that's why people are like why are you always the best thing about having daughters is they don't shut up because you know when a boy gets

to a certain age how was school fine was it fun it was okay he's like daughters they'll just talk to you about oh my god i chipped my nail and then then Becky told me, and he loves it. He loves the drama. Oh, he likes the juice. Oh, he loves it. He calls us on dates. He wants to stay home with a book and be left alone, but this guy loves the juice. I like to know what's going on.

Exactly. You guys have a similarity. What's the Jennifer routine? Oh my God. My mom, honestly, we always say like, if I could be half the mother that she was to us I would be so happy I don't know how she had her I don't know how she had that many hours in the day to do everything she was always carpool drop off pickup rune mom um always showed up I

mean we'd have volleyball practice from school like four to. And then we'd go to another club, eight to 10. And she was always there. And she was out of town every month shooting her HSN for her, what was it? Her skincare line. She would drive us to school every day. She was room mom. She was so involved to the point where I only think there was a moment growing up where she wasn't there. And how did she travel and then also show up like that she i'm having like i know she was gone once a month and she just like book out work she always worked from home there's an office but she stayed home if she had the option and she just anytime she was home she was there a hundred percent of the time and there would just be like five days in the middle where she wouldn't be

there but she'd call every single morning every single night call throughout the day she really did sacrifice us until we're probably 20 like her own life because she just poured so much into us and now she's sort of in this mode of rediscovering what her life looks like without kids which is probably almost kind of a little bit of a mind fuck yeah she bought three cavaboos in replacement of all three every time one moved out she bought a new dog yeah yeah oh i thought i thought this was like a cow she would love to get a cow. No, she bought three dogs.

Three different dogs. Okay, so each time you guys moved out, she got a dog. Yeah. To birth them and take care of them like their own children. I mean, that's actually pretty genius. It is. She's obsessed with them. She loves them as much as she loves them. How did you guys manage to stay so grounded around the celebrity culture of L.A. and Malibu?

And I asked you this at dinner too. It's so interesting to me because you almost like would expect you guys to be a certain way. Yeah. And you're not. Right. And it's like, it's kind of like shocking the way you guys grew up. I don't know if it was because we were nerdy growing up. I was just going to say. That's I really think what it was. Truthfully, we weren't cool. We weren't invited. Why would they invite you? Because we never went out. I would have invited you. No, we never went out. Honestly, we weren't ever mingling with the other celebrity kids. Like, we honestly just stayed home, did homework. It was honestly, I think, staying home so much. I

think it was on the family forcing us to be together as a family with sisters. My mom every day would say, this is your best friend. And that's it. If you you want to trust someone 100 it's going to be your partner and your sister and that's it and i think growing up i never felt like i needed to be in the crowd because i was so fulfilled otherwise and so i do think that that was a big thing is that when these kids are growing up with things did to do the drugs and the but we were never given so much things like the biggest best diamond bracelets like these kids would be we would come to school we wear the same jeans and kids would be like oh are you wearing the same jeans as last week in ninth grade and it was just baffling and I think that's the problem is that they were

noticing the wrong things and we just were so oblivious we just knew life was going to get better as we get older with friends and everything so yeah yeah. It's pretty cool that she instilled that you, you guys are all best friends. Are you also best friends with your other sister? Yeah. Oh my gosh. It's just different dynamics. She's six years apart from me. What's the dynamics? She's like the little Tasmanian devil. She's the youngest one that causes the most trouble, but trouble in a way where she's not doing anything where we're like concerned about her, but she really is the contrarian. Like if we're all saying we're wearing white today,

she'll purposely show up in black. Like she just likes to be a little bit different. She's a Gemini. She's a little bit spunky, that one. She has a boyfriend. I would say I'm more of the mom to her. Do we like the boyfriend? Love the boyfriend.

Actually, Sly loves the boyfriend. He never likes her boyfriend. He's never called any of our boyfriends before in the past. And he's calling him, asking for advice. What is it like when your dad doesn't like the boyfriend? I feel bad for the boyfriend. It's a daily reminder about what he doesn't like. He'll say one joke about him and he'll be just like nagging it over and over. Sometimes he'll call me and be like, did you dump him yet? I mean, listen, in these guys' defenses, that's an intense potential father-in-law

too. That's a lot of pressure. It is a lot of pressure. I remember our favorite story is Sophia's first boyfriend from high school came over to meet the family for the first time. And he went up to shake Sly's hand. And my dad grabbed his hand, pulled him in and said, next time, shake my hand like a man. Oh, geez. I would kill him.

Because I'm the oldest. It was awful and by the way from then on out every single day he would grab my dad's hand he would grab my hand just to practice i mean we're not together anymore clearly yeah but i feel like a guy that's going to be with one of you and potentially enter the family like it's almost like trial by fire like they kind of yeah in order to get the respect of everybody in the family yes i'm curious why he likes your younger sister's boyfriend so much and why he doesn't like nailed the hands your other boyfriends is there something is there a confidence situation i think it's a confidence thing it is honestly a confident thing what 21

years old but he's more confident and more of a man than any guy I've ever brought home. And he does he shows up and he has facts he's really smart and he's worldly yeah and he also helps out like he kind of satisfies all five of us in the family because I think we all require a different thing like my dad wants someone to talk about sports and art my mom wants someone that just like offers to help clean the dishes and super sweet the daughters Sistine wants someone funny I want someone that's deep and Scarlett who knows but it's i feel like he's been able to tackle all four of us five of us that we've all adopted he's not afraid do you know what would be a red flag for me if i was one of you guys i don't know if a guy took me on a date and you your dad mom come up and they pretend like they don't know no we talked about this at

dinner right i know i think we did talk about they actually bring them up more and that's when it goes downhill i've had both the pretending to not know i can't and they're like wait what and then what was the thing you said it's like either they pretend they don't know who he is which is insane because it's like that's i mean you met me on hinge like you know come on and also you looked at me on instagram exactly exactly yeah like sistine is a pretty unique name. I think you can find that online very easily. Or they start rattling off movie facts and timelines. That's wild too.

What do you mean movie facts and timelines? They'll just go on and on. I went to dinner with one guy. So much potential. Such an idiot. He the whole time didn't ask me one question and then told me my dad's entire like underdog story as if I don't already know it. And I was like, yeah, I know. Yes, I know. And it was just painful. But you know what it is, is that we we totally understand and respect

people for loving him. Like we love the fact that people love him and we love him. Like we obviously he's given us the life that we've had. But, you know, when we're trying to find a partner, especially as we get older, it's been just so hard to find someone that isn't intimidated of him, but also of us. It's a weird thing because, I mean, he's our dad, but to everyone else, he's an icon. He's their hero, whatever it is. So when someone brings up our dad on a date, it's just our dad. It's not like I'm asking, like, what is your dad's a dentist? Tell me about that. Like, it's never the same same but we have to always remind ourselves that okay they're just yeah exactly it's fine like so what's the right move then the right move is to just be

normal it's being normal you can't say anything no well no like if it comes up we love talking about it but not on the first date i think i think on the first day try i mean you can if it comes up have it be a natural reason for why it came up like it's just weird when they go so like what's it like like that then i feel like you're a fan boy over here it's like a brief acknowledgement of like hey let's get this out of the way and now get back to you taylor's fingers are typing taylor oh he's trying to play oh you're the red flag. It's you. You're the red flag. It's you. Well, Sly will definitely not like you now. You're one big walking red flag. Taylor's a walking red flag.

I am so intrigued as an entrepreneur and a mother by the way that your mother raised you. I think that she was able to balance both really well. What tips have you guys picked up from not your dad, but her? Well, my mom always said when she was raising us, the best advice you can give any parent is just to always be there. And that's all that kids need. It's just like time and energy and affection and love. And like that, I think really helped us grow up and helped us realize that there's going to be mean people in the world. I remember your how old's your daughter? She's four. She's four. So like by the time we were eight or nine, we started to get bullied really bad. And I think just having that comfort of knowing that like she will always have your back was really helpful in terms of career wise she gives a lot of really good well I think it's always be the first to show up be

the last to leave but I think my mom's biggest thing was that everyone's here isn't working for you like everyone's a person be always so humble so kindly don't think that you're ever going to be better than anyone else I think a lot of people in the industry have a hard time remembering like you came from somewhere, you are a person just like everybody else in this room. And I think that's why we've ended up growing the way we did was because we don't think we're better than anybody else. My mom always said this to us and I think it's hysterical because people can't really wrap their head around it. She always says, you're not special. That sounds like your mom. But she goes, you're not special. She tells me every day. Right. But she goes, but listen, you're special to me, your dad,

your siblings, some of your friends, but to the world, you're not special. So do not act like you deserve more or entitled to more, can treat people any sort of way because everyone's an equal here. I mean, I think that's very, very important advice. I will tell you one of the biggest celebrities we'd ever have on this podcast was michelle pfeiffer and the way she came on was so down to earth yeah she was alone she wasn't wearing a ton of makeup kind low-key treated everyone well and then you get someone else who's nowhere near her level of fame and it's like they show up with 15 people and it's like there's like the hair, the makeup, the PR, the publicist. And there's like this air where they don't even acknowledge the producers. They don't say hello. And it's just the juxtaposition of it is just

so wild. Yeah. If they're trying to fulfill something that they lack. And I think the biggest thing was that my mom's like, be confident in yourself and your own life. But you don't have to feel like you need to act a certain way to make people believe that you are that like just be that if you're already satisfied with your family your friends yourself your career you're not going to feel like you need to judge or treat anyone poorly what's the saying they say um the super wealthy you don't even know they're wealthy and then the ones who aren't as wealthy they flaunt the most their wealth. It's sort of the same thing.

And they wear navy. Also, you never know how far people are going to go. Caitlyn Jenner, who at the time was Bruce Jenner, when she told us the story on the show, she was telling the story about how she would check into the hotel and there was a bellman that would help Bruce at the time every day or every time he was there. And would always treat the bellman nice and had a good rapport with the person. But that bellman turned into Bob Iger.

So it's like you never know how far people go. And you think that someone that is maybe quote unquote beneath you. That's incredible. So you never know. You just got to treat everybody well along the way. Isn't it just easier to just be cool to everybody? don't understand like what you're going to go out of your way it's like it gives it's giving insecurity yeah and that's why i know and that's why when we used to get bullied growing up a lot as kids we never honestly took it personally we would when

i say people bully you we were okay because cissy and i really weren't cool but growing up i was pretty much a loner i was a nerd i was an ugly uggo. I was a big... I was not a looker. No, I was not a looker. We were very... We were awkward. We definitely had an awkward face. But we were just quirky. And so I would be hiding in the library. We would have people literally walk up and

leave the table. Sissine's had someone throw paint on her because I don't remember what the reason was. Because I had new white jeans on. Are you sure it's not that people were jealous of the way you look I promise I was going so bad to the point where the school was like I actually want to suspend these kids but the parents are too high of donors so we think you should leave so that's these people that are known like celebrity actually ironically yeah what are their names but what's sad was that i never grew up ever feeling horrible about myself worse about myself i took it personally because my mom always said it's not the kids it's parents and so

she always reminded me when i got home she goes think about how hard it is probably in their own house that they have to be so mean to someone else outside of it and i think growing up that's why we did end up being the way we were because we realized how important it is to keep such love and deepness within the home i don't know what i'm going to do if one of our kids gets bullied oh well that's why sly taught us how to fight yeah he said when they hit you hit harder yeah he did teach us how to punch for that reason so my mom said don't but my dad said punch next time they do it so i'm gonna say do it yeah i think next time i actually always said i wish i did i probably wouldn't even care i'd probably have to go beat up the person's father just to be like, listen, I can't, you know.

Sometimes the parents are even as bad as the kids. They're scary. A girl punched me in the face in high school and I punched her right back and knocked her on the ass. And she was two grades older than me. And guess what? No one ever fucked with me after that. See, that's what you gotta do. Sometimes you really gotta.

Yeah. Yeah. She was keying my car. She was writing shit on my car. You bought your key there's no i i remember in college someone was kind of bullying me and it was the first time i ever really stood up for myself because i'm not confrontational at all i remember i chewed this girl out and she never ever came up to me to disrespect me she actually said i respect you i've said it on this show a few times and you know the headline will be we're advocating violence here.

I think, you know, people have lost the art of getting punched in the face. I think the reason people are so mouthy these days is because most people don't realize that that's a reality that can happen. You know, I couldn't agree more. And sometimes that is, as weird as it sounds, a quality that I look for in a partner. Someone that can take a hit. Yeah, when I was a kid, like, you know, if you pop off the wrong way, someone's getting hit. Yeah.

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are the things and i feel like my list has just not been working i literally folded it the reason your list isn't working though is because you just said that you just said my list is not working your brain's hearing that okay but what about you need to say my list is working i did i did a witch spell for you and that didn't work either she did i already tried it didn't work we did the 12 let's put it out here on the podcast because we have had guests that have come on that have for you and that didn't work either. I already tried but it didn't work. We did the 12 braids under the table. Let's put it out here on the podcast because we have had guests that have come on that have gotten married from this podcast. Let's do it.

Sophia, go for it. In the ether, your list is working. The show is going to work. It's magic. Someone that is am I talking physically or both? Okay, let it rip. Someone that is taller than me okay that is very ambitious and proud of their career that feels very confident and fulfilled in themselves

that they just want to have me there to make their life even better okay um someone that's kind and lawyer and also conscientiousness like i would love someone that if i don't remember something they would just do it for me like they they just they just like, oh, I want to get her coffee. You might need to be a lesbian with that one. That is so not Sophia. Good luck finding that one, but keep going. See, am I choosing like

the perfect person right now? Go ahead, keep going. Wait, I thought this is my list and I don't want, you can do it. Don't interrupt this one.

No, they don't exist, but go on. Well, someone that if I'm like, if they just bring coffee in the morning. It's been 10 years

and he just sent it yesterday. Go ahead. I just required a little training. Also, I guess someone that's's funny they don't need to be the loudest person in the room but i need humor but it can be sharp humor it can be like they look at something and they'll make fun of it it doesn't have to be a stand-up humor it's just they're so funny and they're so smart it's i think it's the intelligence i need yeah yeah i need someone that's so intelligent that they're very humorous about everything.

Well, I always say like if someone's funny and can make a room laugh, they're actually the smartest person in the room. Yeah. Because that's hard to do. And a lot of people can't do that. I mean, I would say a few similarities. For me, I just want like a man. Yeah.

I want like a real man. I feel like I've been dating a lot since I've lived here. And just the art of chasing does not exist anymore. The art of proper courting a woman does not exist anymore. And I just want to feel desired. Like a girl, feminine. I want to feel like the feminine energy, not the masculine energy.

And I'll tell you this. I want to feel like if he has me, his eyes aren't wandering if there's something better. I want it to be like, whoa, you are it. That's fucking amazing. And that's it. You know what I want? My type of guy, call me back. That's all I want. They call you back. I'm actually writing a book about a lot of the things that you just said and the energy I think to give off to get that because it is rare, but it's out there is you are lucky to be in my presence exactly i'm too humble i'm like you have

to get that energy off that they're so lucky to be in your presence and i still in we've known each other since we were 12 give off that energy like if you go if you go away from me like you don't get access to this yes you don't get access to this personality you don't get access to these boobs you don't get access to this witty funny charming personality you go like you have to go find it somewhere else because they are lucky to be in your presence i do think they should be so i know it's true and like the hunt but i think sometimes too much soy i keep saying it's too much soy but people people are getting do not drink soy um yeah there's a there's a like a

it's interesting. I mean, we're we're not gonna put anyone on blast but we're talking about you in particular and a guy that you went on a few dates with. Yes.

Gotta be careful here. And I was just like you blew it, man. But I think like I think maybe especially with you two in particular

people are like trying to kind of play it cool and not be too hungry and not be too thirsty i'll tell you off air my assessment it's actually i i agree that uh that men need to hunt and women want to be hunted and i don't i'm not everyone's gonna like that in this day and age but i have not ever met a woman that i've talked to one-on-one that does not want to be hunted and desire okay Okay. I said this on our podcast and we got a lot of hate for it, but I don't care because I believe it. You don't have to agree. I said, men are born hunter gatherers. They are literally the lion looking for prey. And if you're just the gazelle that walks into his mouth,

he's not going to want it because he didn't have to work for it. He didn't have to try for it. There's no effort that he had to put in. And I want to be a sprinting gazelle. I don't want to walk right in there. And this is the thing. I have to say that Sistine and I, we're very masculine in our careers. So we're very much someone that loves to be go-getters. We love to plan things. We are the loudest usually in the room with our friends. We have the most jokes. We like to just hold an audience. But when it comes to relationship, we want that to be taken away from us and have a guy be in control. And so I think that's been the hardest part is a lot of these guys that we go on dates with, they forget the balance and the dynamic and they kind of give it to us. And unfortunately, it's easy for us to take

it. Let me ask you guys this, because we, my mom said that we're too much on dates. Like we talk too much. We're too assertive. Thank you. I much we're too assertive thank you I thought you were great thank you I will say that I we need we we three need to go for a drink one time because I I really really relate to you guys I'm obviously older than you guys but I am so masculine in my career but if you saw me at home and which a lot of people don't because i don't post it on social media all the time i am a mother i'm like in my soft romantic i like the house a certain way like i want to be sort of like a homemaker without the cooking if one more organizing bin shows up and it's funny because yesterday danielle bernstein came on and she is super masculine in her career with WeWoreWhat. And she said the same thing that you guys said.

She said she wants to feel feminine by a man. And I think you guys are right and you nailed it that the man thinks because you're so masculine in your career that you don't need the femininity. Well, no. Maybe I was like the only guy in the room. I might say something. I would love to hear from that.

I think it's a rare pool of men that are able to be confident around women as successful as the three of you, right? Because the dynamic, if you just think about historical dynamics, a lot of men are used to growing up in households where the man is the breadwinner and the woman is at home. And that's obviously changed changed great that it has but i think the dynamic of dating any of you is like if if they are not maybe as far along as as you are in your careers like that and also the family have i think it's it takes a very confident self-assured guy to enter into that world and be okay with that situation yeah not saying they don't exist but it's rare and i think the guys that i know in my life sometimes struggle with that dynamic as they start to be with women that have had

the success. And I think the Adelaide of being a Stallone was another huge obstacle we've had to overcome because it's not only that are we very passionate about our career and we have this very masculine energy in our work. They also are very intimidated by the blur of a stallone and i think also the fact that we have that as our backing they go oh like not only is she like known and her father's famous so she also works a lot and so it's been hard to find someone that doesn't take that into consideration go okay i can't handle her because she's too much like oh i want to bring her into my life because it's so exciting i'll tell, the problem is right now we're very happy being very happy. But we are very satisfied being in our life right now.

But the problem is people keep saying, you guys don't need a partner because you'll just marry each other. We're very codependent. We've become so codependent and yet so independent in our own ways that we almost are struggling with the idea of letting someone in and kind of messing up the routine that we have been it's got to be the right person you're not going to settle yeah i will tell you though if take away your parents like pretend your parents don't exist you guys are just as impressive without your parents um alone like like i i think that i'm sure guys make it an issue but i think that that's what you guys should also lead with you're just as impressive without your it's not like you're sort of riding

on their coattails do you know what i mean yeah no i i really appreciate this sounds yeah i wasn't even making a comment about the family as much as just you as two successful women yeah a lot you know being public having like doing what you do. I think a lot of it just, it's going to filter out a lot of guys that aren't confident enough to deal with women in your situation. A hundred percent. I think that if I were you guys right now, I would, this is really weird. I would look for a guy that has a really strong, maybe entrepreneurial, go get our mother. Older. that's a really good because then he's used to that kind of woman you guys are used to seeing a dynamic where your mom was at home and

there was this beautiful balance but she was also super entrepreneurial so that's very natural for you but i think if you date someone you got to find the guy who has had this strong mother figure that has done her own thing and because then the guy is is used to that because if you get a guy where maybe the mother was not as strong in her career there might be a little bit of a pushback i'm just gonna say it bluntly you can't date a guy that was babied by his mother his whole life you've been there done that we have we did their friends and i think that was probably the worst thing we decided to do. Dating best friends? Yeah, that was pretty awful. That was one bad thing.

But they were very close. And this is not a bad thing, close to their mothers. But their moms basically still ran their life as an adult. Well, I'm going to breastfeed my son until he's about 35. Well, I think they're still breastfeeding their mothers. They didn't cut the umbilical cord? No, it's still attached. I think a lot of the influence on our relationship was through the mom.

Look at the mom. I'm telling you. That's my hot take. What does a day in the life look like with you guys running your businesses? Tell us the behind the scenes. Oh, interesting. So we normally start in the morning with editing our podcast. And if we're not shooting an episode later during the day,

I, Sophie and I have like separate endeavors and the ones that we have together right now, we're creating something I can't say just yet, but we're creating something bigger than our podcast based off of our podcast. So we're doing a lot of pitches and work with that. Um, on the side, I like to write horror movie scripts. So I'm enjoying that. And then as a hobby, I like to sew. So scripts so that's cool i'm enjoying that and then as a hobby i like to sew yeah so that'll sew at night yeah that's so cute so other than the podcast and what she explained i just finished my first uh romance novel because i want to be an author so i'm a big i have my own congratulations thank you so i have my own book club and i've been running it

for three years i want to be in your book club thank you i read three four books a month so people can decide what they want to read and then i've always wanted to be in your book club. Thank you. I read three or four books a month so people can decide what they want to read. And then I've always wanted to be an actual author. And so I just signed with my first literary agent. So I'm, yeah, hopefully that works out. Thanks. So what's really fun about this period of our life is not only are we getting to do all these really crazy, exciting things, our podcast, the book, the script, but it's just the start of it.

And we're always constantly thinking of new things to do. And we're constantly reinventing and changing it up. And I think that's why we're so happy where we're at in our life right now is because this is the most fun part is like developing it and building it and growing it. It's funny because if you look at your dad, people would say, oh, he's a movie star.

He's creative like you too. He's super cool. He's a writer too you guys are doing what you're doing i'll tell you right now all right here we go how much time do we have let me pull out no but that's interesting that you guys are doing that it's very much it makes sense like i don't think people maybe see you and you mentioned earlier about he was looking at the directing he's creative he's really everything in our house even growing up was just so artistic.

Yeah, and it's for you guys to write makes total sense. Yeah, it made sense. I mean, he always tells us being a writer is the worst job you can ever do because we would watch him sit in his office for eight hours a day from like two to 9 a.m. or later or earlier. And we used to come home from school

and then do our homework on the editing room floors. Yeah. So we were always around it. Yeah. But there is, again, like some added pressure of, okay, you're trying to do what your father did, but have it in a way that isn't judged based off of who your dad is.

And that's kind of a tough thing to do. But I feel like finally we're earning some respect. But it's different. Like he doesn't write horror scripts. Like Sushane's a huge horror movie fan. Like I'm, that's why we work. We're yin and yang. I'm like a romance person. What's the best horror movie? Like, Sushane's a huge horror movie fan. Like, that's why we work. We're yin and yang. I'm like a romance person.

What's the best horror movie? Oh, that's so subjective. It depends. Like, I don't like... I like things that are realistic scary. Like an actual murder. Like Saw? No.

Saw's cute. Oh, cute. No, no, no. Cute's the wrong word. Saw's good, but... No, after the seventh one, I was like, okay, we need something. The one where they fell into the needles scared me more than anything's ever scared me. but see i don't know after the seventh one i was like okay we need something i can't even the one

where they fell into the needles scared me more than anything's ever that's why i'll never do acupuncture oh i think they're like the floor open there was a floor that i'll never forget that they literally fell into a vat of like why do you guys like this stuff i'll tell you i like to romanticize everything no when i watch a comedy. When I watch a comedy, I don't really laugh. When I watch a rom-com, I don't really feel anything. At least with horror, I'm like, ooh. Well, that's different for me. That's her escapism.

Mine is watching someone fall in love. I'm like, oh, life can be so beautiful. So different. Taylor, how dare you charge into this interview? I love the old ones. I mean, my dad, like he grew up, he showed me Silence of the Lambs. But is that like a horror? No, but I'll tell you, it's not scary, but cinematically, it's really good.

And like, I love the just the simplicity of like a Blair Witch project where it took nothing to make, but you're terrified. I'm trying to think new horror. You like your cortisol raised and then you like to sew. That very scary when it came out because they they market it in a way remember we're like when we were younger at least i had to date myself too much they like didn't tell you that it was a movie they like kind of almost acted like it really happened yeah i was freaking when that's what i love what's your favorite romance novel oh that's so tough i mean lately i've been just obsessed with pride and prejudice but one of my favorite romance movies that's so random but we love country strong like i do remember that one with glenneth paltrow i've never seen it oh that one's a really good one

she sings country music with gregory sir and um gorgeous yeah tulsa king that one's really good i love also i'm a huge oldies fan like i'll watch how to catch a thief i love singing in the rain i love um i'm trying to think of the one I just watched recently but yeah I just like anything involving just simple romance do you guys play tennis no but I think we need to learn okay we play golf you play golf maybe you need to date a guy a little bit older like an older soul everyone's always told me I'm an old soul everyone's told me to date older I think that you need maybe like a 37 year old. I would go as old as 45. Like that's because I'm 28. I'm going to be 29 next year. And so I don't mind. My parents are 22 year age gap. So we're pretty used to an older guy around us. And this is not daddy issue thing, but I just, I just,

I feel like I respect them more because they just have their life more figured out. And I think that with my mental maturity, even her, like she should date a little bit older as well. And there's no 27 year old that's going to give me what I need. No. 27, you guys have a mature energy. Yeah. Also, I was saying Lauren and I,

you guys are younger than us, but we were the kind of last generation to grow up without phones, smartphones. We never even were on the dating apps. We missed that whole era. So nice. Lucky you. But I think like guys my age and older same thing and so they what you're describing is maybe a person that kind of thinks with a little bit more mature way because we i didn't start having instagram until i was in 10th grade in high school like that

that which was so cool because that even then it took a couple more years for it to even become what it is today um so yeah definitely someone that has been disconnected because as you're saying with the dating apps you'll go on a great date with a guy thinks it went fantastic he's gonna go home that night and just in case he'll check hinge or raya if there's something better and that's the problem the amount of times my mom says this she's like there's always going to be someone younger, prettier, more his type, more blonde, whatever it is. And I'm like, damn.

But it's funny because most of my friends are now engaged or married and some have kids. And it's been very interesting. And also, I've questioned a lot, even just becoming older and working. And am I doing it wrong? Am I supposed to be at a certain place in my life? I'm constantly, like Sasi and I are always thinking, like, are we behind? But I feel very behind. I'm really happy that I've waited this long and I'm willing to wait even more. I'm even like starting a little bit more of a fertility journey, just thinking about like that as an option, just because I don't ever want to sacrifice

something that I find so important, which is like, I want to be like a homemaker. I want to have a family. I want to have kids, but I want to find the right person to do that with so I'm um like it's it's a very it's I think turning 28 has been probably the most transformative year and you have time I don't even think I got married until I was 28 but see you got married and that's the problem and so my mom found it like around our age too so we're like so it's been very it's it's been very uh different kids until way later either. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's the thing is like, I'm also willing to wait to have kids as well. And so that's why I'm like, do I start freezing? Like, do I start like looking into that? So it's been because no one in my friend group is doing it. So I like the idea of freezing your eggs as young as you

possibly can, because it gives you leverage and insurance. And what what freezing your eggs really does is it gives you peace of mind. Exactly. And I am someone that I'm a very anxious, heady, overwhelmed person. And so I need to kind of have that security of going, I don't have to worry about this because that is something that's super important. It's probably the most important thing to me is to make sure I have a family eventually. And so doing that and just having that insurance of, okay, I'm good even if I have it at 35. Like we're still good. Like I got my eggs.

They're 28 years old and they're cute. But yeah, I know it's been fun because Justine and I definitely, even though we're two years apart, it's nice to have her alongside me because we are in different spaces. We're single and struggling together, baby. Daniel Bernstein said yesterday that she froze her eggs in New York City with Dr. Lucky. Oh, hold on. Everyone's going to remember Dr. Lucky to freeze your eggs, right? I can't believe that's a real name.

Dr. Lucky. That's who I would want to freeze my eggs with. Me too. If I was in New York. I've met a few people who have done it, and it's not as daunting as people perceive it. I think there's such a bad stigma behind it. I don't think it's as daunting as people are making it. I heard it's really not as, but I think everyone thinks that your hormones are going to go crazy.

You're going to gain a bunch of weight. Someone said it's almost like you just ate a big meal. And that's it. Like everyone reacts differently. But I think that, I think the idea of like freezing your eggs, getting injections, it sounds scary.

But I think if you think about the reward you get from it, like beauty is pain. Like things, good things come to those who wait. And you know, you have to put a little bit of effort in. And like, want those eggs that you have to put a little bit of work and so it's like it's worth it for me like i don't like needles either i have a fear of them so i'm still i feel like that i'm putting it out there that it'll be so easy for you to do it if you do

it and it'll be so great do you guys live together and work together how's that you know what do you fight about oh you know it's funny but we really don't fight about work we fight about everything we never fight about work that's the problem i think sophie and i really had to understand balance because we literally wake up at the same time we work out the same time we eat at the same time every single have dinner together every night you guys are like twins yeah no everything but so when we do fight i think one of us is either just hangry or moody or on their period or hormonal. But what was the last thing we fought about?

It was like... I think I was overthinking something. You were overthinking like a guy maybe? Yeah. It was like so silly. So you don't fight a lot. We really don't fight a lot. It's mostly like we bicker.

We have our tones sometimes. We can get a little bit sharp with each other. But it's the type of fighting where we'll leave the room for 10 minutes come back okay what should we get for dinner like it's done but it was i will say so we've been living together for four years i would say or longer like five years yeah that is very weird when we're not living together um and we've always talked about do we separate but they were like no not yet she wants to leave me maybe you just find husbands that are brothers that's what's that's i love that oh my god that's terrible no that's the best idea we go trips together we always this is what we have manifest houses next to each other we want our best friends together

sometimes i hear lauren give it don't we can't the harvey brothers do you guys know who that is no the harvey brothers are you paying attention to the harvey brothers there's a harvey brother they're from the 60s google the book it. It's a book. It's like Nancy Drew. They're two detective brothers. Why was that? Oh, the Harvey boys. I was like, the Harvey. I was like, how old are they?

Are they alive? They're a cartoon character. That's funny. But the Harvey boys would be perfect for you guys. I don't think your dad wants to come and be like, I found the Harvey brothers. The Harvey brothers. He's like, oh God.

Who's the most famous person that casually was in your home when you guys were young that was nonchalant? Oh, my God. There was a lot. There was a few. And I didn't appreciate it because I also didn't understand why people liked them so much. Now I do. Wait, what about, remember the Planet Hollywoods? Oh, my God.

Didn't you guys have, I feel like all the... Well, you know what it was? Because it's him, we had a lot of action stars. I think the coolest person that's ever sat with us that's iconic is... Why am I forgetting his name? We always say Al Pacino was really cool at our house. That's a good one. That was a great one.

Every Saturday for 20 years growing up, the boys would have a fight night at our house. We'd order a takeout. It would just be him, Arnold dolph lunger yeah um it would be sometimes like random one time guy fieri came downstairs at 10 in the morning he was just in the kitchen i was like how did you get did you guys think it was a big deal or was it just dad's friend no no it was it was as i got older i was like this is insane like this is not normal i feel like we're in a simulation um but i think younger we were really excited when we had james marsden over one time and that was like the notebook era we were really excited what my dad would do yeah when my dad would do his casting we'd say we had big crushes on people so typically

they would come over to the house and they would just discuss the role and so we'd be like wait can you have um liam hemsworth come over and he's like okay did you ever want to hang out with those guys or no i was like i was too young if you see us with our dad you're just gonna see this as like daughters and so but we are also like too young yeah he cock blocks us we can't yeah he's a cock block yeah everyone's gonna be too afraid to make a move if he's next to them what has it been like filming your show with your entire family? Oh, that's been weird. So wild. And what's funny

is hearing from my dad, he said, shooting a reality show is harder than shooting an actual show. He said it's the hardest job he's ever done. Michael's speechless.

Clock it. Well, is it because you have, is it because... Maybe because it's his family. He cares so much about you guys. It's insane hours. It's hours.

So it's literally... And content. Because we'd have to get, we'd get up at 5.30 because we'd only have one hair and one makeup person. So everyone had to rotate. So it'd be from like 6 a.m. until you're brushing your teeth at 8 p.m. It is all day, sometimes seven days a week. And when you're doing a reality show and just your family, it's all your storylines.

Like if you have a housewives, you have five different families you can follow. So when they came into our homes. So you can break it up a little bit. Yeah. So when you came into our home, which we never have had cameras this much in our life first off that was very intimidating and second of all you're shooting 12 hour days we shot for eight months straight yeah and it would be maybe you get a minute or 30 seconds because it's only 22 minute episodes so it that reason why you were saying it's a lot harder than shooting an actual show is because you have a script you have time restraints you have a scene and it's done it's cut and you basically have no social you have no yeah you have no structure you guys like it

um i liked it because we got to be together a lot so that was fun looking back it's just a lot of time like we weren't able to focus on any of our other endeavors so like since we've taken this mini break from filming because we haven't had a family vacation in over six years we haven't I mean we've had two summers of straight working so we're like you know what let's just take a break for a few months and now we've actually enjoyed developing other things we actually loved the final product so like after all the work it was really especially season two that was probably our my favorite thing we ever saw I mean we met the pope which was like crazy to see I like it it's just very hard to present an authentic self to people

and give you know producers what they want because when you think of reality you think of a little bit chaos drama like you think of Osbournes and Kardashians, like they just let it all out there. There was nothing to hold back for us. You know, we're thinking like, OK, we want to be moms one day. So we're not going to do anything that's going to be detrimental later on. So it's really hard to find that balance of giving people something that was entertaining enough to watch, but also still being ourself. Well, that's why we call it a docuseries we call it less like a reality show and i know it sounds stupid because

everyone makes fun of that but it was it's like an insight into our like our life did you have to convince your parents to do the show or did they have to convince you like what was the talk behind this why did you guys decide to put yourself out there like so i would say the people that wanted it the most was sly and myself i can't how you call him sly that's so funny he's my contact well you actually call him sly more than i do i just don't know why i feel like because i talk so much about him to people what is to say dad is weird zaza grows up and she's like mike really wanted to it's different though it's different he's just like s's just like sly. He's sly. He's just sly. Yeah.

So him and I really wanted to do it. And we pushed everyone else. Scarlett, our youngest sister, was probably the hardest to convince because she's in college. And she also is going to wear the other color when you guys are all wearing white. Exactly. And she has the boyfriend that she didn't really want to show on camera, but they were pushing her to do that. And then it took you a little bit of persuading.

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I first said they came to Sustained and I because of our podcast. And for years, they've been saying they wanted us to be on a reality show for years. This has been like since I was in high school. And I think once we came around to us being older and the idea was presented in a very convincing way, then we decided it was fine to do. But as long as we were able to promise each other, it wouldn't break us up. We wouldn't do we decided it was fine to do. But as long as we were able to promise each other it wouldn't break us up, we wouldn't do anything we didn't want to do, and it was going to be fun, then we would do it.

And has it hit all those things? I think the fun part was probably not. I think the things we shot within it were fun. I think the longevity was what made it difficult. But yeah, I think we hit all the spots because we never had a fight about the show, about anything we were shooting. We never broke up.

Like there was nothing that happened within our family while we were shooting that was like really bad, especially season two, I'd say. Well, I think you guys are fortunate too because you guys kind of understand the industry. You're able to kind of go into it with open eyes. You know, we have a lot of people that we know that do those kinds of things.

They sometimes don't realize what they're signing up for. In some cases it ends up very well, but in other cases yeah not so well yeah it was one of those things where we could do it it'd be great we didn't do it also great so we're like you know what we're all kind of free with our schedule right now let's just try it yeah i mean like this is the thing we're like why don't we just try another avenue like why don't we just i understand and i think that people are like why are they doing a reality show? Like he's this, he's like, I mean, why not? Like some actors go from movies to TV. Some people go from football to commercials. My dad said it was interesting because he said a lot of people typically do reality or do some sort of game show thing

at the downfall of their career. And he's like, well, I feel like I'm at the height of my career. What is he, 78 or 79 now? And he's working now more than ever. He's like, wouldn't that be exciting to show people that? So I was like, okay, fair enough. I really loved it. And people love peeking behind the curtain. Yeah. Your mom has beautiful skin, beautiful makeup tips. What are the beauty tips that you've learned from her?

And what are your own beauty tips? Oh my God. Sunscreen was huge. It's funny because she has her own skincare line. So I've? Oh my god, sunscreen was huge. It's funny because she has her own skincare line, so I've been using her product since I was 12. Pimp the favorite products out too. So she has a glycolic cleanser. Her company is called Serious Skincare. You can get on her website. It's also on Amazon, I think. So she has a glycolic cleanser that I love. She has a Drylo, which is a spot acne treatment, which is the same as Mario Badescu.

Yeah, his spot treatment. But she was the first. She was before Proactiv. So she did it all. She's the OG. Yeah, she's the OG. That's why she's a boss. Was she on QVC?

She was on HSN. HSN, yes. She was on HSN and then Evine. And now she does... I don't... Actually, I think they're still on streaming. I'm trying to think what else did she teach us? Vitamin C a lot. But I think the biggest thing was just preventing getting in the sun i think diet

was a huge thing drinking a lot of water my mom also though is just the most gorgeous human being like she yeah honestly she's like she's just it just freaks me out she's like an atlantic princess i know yeah her genetics are ridiculous so genetics. I don't want to say drink water. I wish I had better stuff. Literally, she's never been ugly. She's been perfect and she still looks perfect and it's confusing. And this is maybe sounds messed up, but Sophia and I always say all of the good qualities that we have is from our mom and everything we don't like about ourself. We don't look like yourself like when someone says you look like your father we're like that is the meanest thing you could say no i know he's handsome he's

handsome but my mom looks like they're like like you don't want to be called like oh you look like your dad sly's a handsome guy i'll give him that he's a handsome guy jennifer oh god she's got the high cheekbones she's got everything got the green eyes like a hot bloodhound i know like a doberman pincher she's Like a Doberman pincher. She's like a Doberman pincher. Yeah. My dad calls her like an... What's it called? What's those dogs with the long, long hair?

Afghans? Is that... Afghan. Wait, your dad calls your mom a dog? No, she's like a beautiful Afghan. Okay, got it. It's called a beautiful dog. Beautiful dog.

I mean, you don't want to say she's like a Rottweiler. Well, I'll tell you this. My dad is the most funny person you'd ever meet in your life. He actually is the reason why I would say Sistine and I are very funny in a lot of ways. The sense of humor. The humor is the biggest thing. It's because we were raised around it. Like he has such like offbeat humor.

And that's why he calls my mom like a hot dog. Like she's really, we're really honest. So there's pretty much nothing that anyone can say to us at this point that's going to phase us. No, not at all. It's like, you think you're hurting my feelings my dad told me that last week so nothing's hurting we shit on each other so much i think that's another thing like we don't care about hurting each other's feelings it's just like get over it it's funny sounds like your mom a little bit it's good good to have a little bit of uh yeah it's great you gotta you gotta shoot the shit you had you had to prepare for I mean, I think people have to like

not take themselves too seriously. That's the biggest thing. You gotta learn how to scrape your knee. And I will say, I think that was a big thing about growing up was that we were all able to call each other out. If someone had a bad outfit, I would be like, get out of the logo.

That's gonna be another thing though. Like I tell, you know, sometimes Lauren and I will banter. Again, we've known each other since we were 12 years old. So imagine like knowing someone that long, you're gonna have a certain dynamic. And I will see people in the comments like getting offended for me or for her and i'm like you guys got to take a joke you take yourself so seriously but if you date a guy that can't take a joke oh my god they're so sensitive you can't you can't do that you can't be that sensitive there's a lot of guys there's a

lot of sensitive people out there yeah very sensitive i know like one time the guy said i love you and granted we're dating for a while and i just said love you too and he's like you didn't say i love you and i was like oh my god we're not having a fight about this right now yeah i mean it's just you see what i mean it's like oh yeah oh my gosh it's intense it's tough out there guys it's real we did a whole thing yesterday i think the dating apps and we had a woman that's involved in a dating app so i think she had to be careful and great and everything but i just think that it creates a situation where people don't have to focus anymore and there's this endless like okay something got hard or

something upset me or something got a little bit too deep for me or a little uncomfortable so i'm gonna swipe and go to this or i'm gonna go on porn hub and beat my meat three times a day well porn's not so great either for people. Again, I think it all comes down to a focus thing. And it's also the idea that there's another thing out there that's readily available. So people don't want to put in work. I think dating apps have absolutely ruined dating. I haven't been on a dating app in like four years.

I mean, even prior to that. I think we've lost the art of communication. I think we've lost the art of courting someone. And also lost the art of courting someone and also having the ability to approach someone because you just have a natural connection because you see them across the room and there's something about them. Especially living in a city like New York. Yeah. So condensed with so many people.

Did you see that article that came out that New York City is rated the worst city to date in the country? But Los Angeles, I am a believer, believer though if i read that i would flip that i would go into my day every day and i would say new york is the best city to date in everything's coming to me i'm having all these guys lined up they're lucky to be in my presence you don't get sucked into the negativity and the frequency this is taught to me by louise hay i love her i'll send you the link i'm like you you can't let those articles dictate and also i will say to your point the frequency's off i know this sounds really weird on dating apps it is off it's off

and i hate to say that because i know that's how a lot of people meet but there's something but i can tell you i haven't had a dating app since forever and I told myself I would be okay and I think I've had more dates than most of my friends that are on dating apps because I've just accepted it and gone I will find someone in public I will find someone through a friend it's going to work so honestly I've had that positive mentality and you can ask the scene I find guys everywhere like we need to throw away our world's smallest violin for ourself i mean we play it all the time like i would just flip any narrative like flip any narrative on it and just say that everything's happening for me there's a line

out the door everywhere i meet i think like even some of these like matching things that these apps do like the woman that was here yesterday was saying like there's filters where you can like filter people's heights yeah like think about like how much you're missing potentially by just putting these from going from five ten to six foot like also the shorter ones have the bigger and they're funnier and they're funnier they have to work a little harder a little more elbow grease in there they have bigger penises and bigger personalities honestly and they they are fun. There's nothing wrong with the shorty. All you girls that are doing this over six foot, I'm telling you guys. I don't need it.

Don't focus on height. I agree. That used to be me. I've dated tall, tall, tall. Impressive. And the shorter ones are always like they almost had to work harder. It's actually true. Honestly, I think physically just take your physical idea out of your brain like you really can't get so you can have the core values

i think it's important to have the morals like aligned and things that you genuinely want in someone's heart having a type of like overrated yeah it's so overrated like i used i dated someone that was six seven so i think oh for a while and so am i is my theory right no don't put the guy twice if i'm right i didn't see it so i don't know he was a good guy um oh no no no he's a good guy this is equivalent he's nice no no no he's a great person he's a great person if we ever break up when you describe me as he was a good guy you know what i just think of the dating app we're not ordering a sandwich this isn't like i want a side of lettuce with some pepperoncinis and a little bit of red onions this is this idea that you can order up this person is so fucking wild to me and i don't know if i'm just so weird not

in the like in the energy but it's just like it's not the problem that you can order the person it's the problem that you can then order up five other people after you've done the date and you think not that you got all these matches like these salty guys got mad at me for saying lazy but it's it's it's this idea that like okay that one that i was pursuing maybe they didn't text me quick enough or there was something that i didn't like it's like minor thing and so now i'm gonna jump to the next it's just yeah it's this constant thought that like something is better out there yeah i think that i think actually i do struggle with that a lot i have this idea that things have to be perfect and the sign of boo, I'm out if they mess up a little bit. And I've had this problem where I'm almost like fight or flight, I fly. And I think that it's because I've waited so long for the right person. I've

had this idea that there is that perfect person. I mean, she's literally looking for a meet cute in a coffee shop while she's reading her book. It's not going to happen. But why? I think it could. See, negative. I could have that in a library. It's not gonna happen babe why I think it could see negative I could have that in a library it's not but I think Barnes and Noble no I've been there

many times no one cool I'm always there we give the worst dating advice we've been there no you don't actually this is really helping

I'm not gonna throw myself a pity party my advice I'm gonna go against the grain of this generation a little bit but

listen take a Anna Karenina I told this to go against the grain of this generation a little bit. But listen, take a Anna Karenina. I told this to Michael. Beat the book up. Put a couple bookmarks in it. Go sit out at a cafe, maybe in St. Tropez if you can. By the yachts. Put on a short dress and let someone approach you. There's an energy that you give off to let people approach you.

It's an open energy. I do agree. I'm sorry. No, it's so open energy this i do agree i'm sorry i will tell you i the times i'm like i don't want to go out i don't feel like doing it it's always when i meet someone it's always when i'm so against it that's when the person comes up to me and my mom actually said this to me because i had this period where i like was really attracting a lot of guys like a lot of them were coming up to me okay but my mom no but my mom said it's because when you walk out of the house you give off this aura that you have to give up into it and i because i'm such a hopeless romantic i do i'm constantly envisioning

a meet cute like i'm constantly envisioning someone's going to walk up to me and hopefully it's not like a scary guy but i'm always envisioning it's going to be that person and so i think that even if they aren't my person, I think you have to filter through all those guys and get comfortable with the idea of someone, you know, courting you or trying for you. Like don't hate on someone for having the confidence to do it. I think honestly, it's kind of ballsy. It's nice that someone's like trying to say,

hey, you're beautiful. Let me, you know, take you out. The hot six foot five dude is going to be the most boring guy you'll ever waste a dinner with. It's just not worth it. Man, the tall guys are getting nailed this episode. No, but I'll ever waste a dinner with. It's just not boring. The tall guys are getting nailed this episode. I'll take it.

Boring you don't want boring. Boring, my dad said, is the worst thing that anyone could have. What did Frank Sinatra say? You don't want to go on a date and have it be a staring contest? That's a good one. We feel the awkward silence. Oh, we do. That's the thing.

We always leave a date and Sassina will ask me and I'll ask her, did you have fun because he was fun or did you make it fun because you talked the whole time and ask questions? And normally it is the latter. I mean, how many times do you go on a date? I don't remember. But you go on a date and you feel like you killed it. You gave off the energy. You're doing all the things like, oh, my God, I was sexy, but also respectful. And I was smart and witty.

And I was doing all the things. And you tried really hard. And we go back and we're like, wait, did I even like him? Like, I don't actually think I liked him at all. And I think that's a question we're starting to ask ourselves. Because when you want something so bad, you start to force something. And we've caught ourselves forcing a lot. I also think as an interviewer and you kind of and I do this all the time in my own personal life.

You bring the interviewee or you bring the interview aspect to, I would think, the date. We do that all the time. And it ends up like it's an it's and I do this even like I'll go out to dinner with my friends and I'm like, oh, my God, I just interviewed them. We say that all the time. I've actually had a guy told me that a few months ago on a date. I feel like I'm on an interview process. So bad. And I had no idea. I think that would be my problem.

I'm just a curious person. I'm like, what's your childhood like? I want to know. What attachment style are you? I know. You start interviewing. Yeah. We do ask some

certain questions to see if we can get it you can kind of tell someone by like how their relationship is with their mother we'll ask that question like are you close to their parents um we'll talk about like when was the last time you were in a relationship if they speak bad about their ex immediately that's another red flag yeah if they say i have a ton of female friends that's another red flag which i didn't think was a red flag until i found out it wasn't yeah a ton of female friends which by the way i have a lot of guy friends so i don't think it's a problem but when they all look like i don't want to only fans models and they're flown in i don't think i'll tell you this no the women are not gonna like this they're gonna shit on me all over

the internet it's gonna go i have sisters i have two younger sisters and i told them when they start dating guys i said don't talk to any of your friends about these guys don't go and start sharing these ideas don't ask their advice i watched my sisters and their friends they would ask their advice and they would do with all and their friends would sabotage the relationship and it would almost ruin the thing with the guy so i watched this with women sometimes like i don't know what it is i don't think the greatest idea is for, I mean, listen, you could talk about certain things, but I think going to a large group of women to talk about your relationship, and I've said this on the show and I get shit all the time, is not a good idea.

I actually could not agree more. And my mom says this all the time. If we're starting to talk to a new guy and we're excited and we want to tell all of our friends, she goes, keep it to yourself because you don't want to say too much and then they're going to ask questions. And especially if you're dating someone and all you do to your friends is tell them the bad things that this guy did,

then they're going to hate him. And then the whole time it's going to be trying to make them like him again. We talk about this all the time. So you don't need to go. Yeah, so we'll talk to each other about it. Even then, there's sometimes like,

I'll talk too much about a guy. And it seems like it's been two dates. I told her yesterday, I yesterday i was like you need i can't hear this man's name again yeah i'll ask too many questions i think that that's the problem is like when you speak about it too much you're gonna overthink it and then you're gonna self-sabotage or your friends or your even your sister like you don't you don't need to get everyone else's opinion like the only person that matters in the dynamic between the two of you is him and you. I also think that if you want to be hunted, you have to let him hunt you. Meaning like pulling back a little bit. Little absence.

I love a little game. I love a game. She never agrees with me. I say if you're not playing the game, you're already losing. I say that every single time. I'm still playing a game. I're already losing. You're losing. I say that every single time. I'm still playing a game. I'm like, let them play time.

I go to the football for four hours. And he's like, he, and then I'll go to the market and I won't, I'll decline the call. I won't text back. I said, let them play checkers and you play chess.

I still want to be hunted. I'm sorry. I want to be hunted until the day I'm rigor mortis. I don't care. The gender dynamics now is like a whole hot button issue but I do think at the core of it as a man I like to feel like I'm pursuing and then at some moment I catch what I'm pursuing I love when I get a text but I don't like when are you coming home yeah it's like and I think I know I'm overspent for an hour I think a woman I think women want to feel desire

there's nothing i feel better is when a guy's like i miss you or i love you like let's hang out today and i don't say and they still say it after because they're still thinking of me let him hunt you i'm sorry even though it sounds childish you cannot deny the fact it feels so good for someone to want you many girlfriends going through the same thing with guys in their life that they're just dating right now, where they are trying too hard, wanting him to call too bad. So the point where they just start spamming him. No, you gotta be like a poodle.

Like honestly, like leading him to say the thing like, oh, I want to date you. And then they do. And then the guy gets freaked out and they're just not allowing any breathing room. And every guy that i've ever dated i've told i don't want to date you should i start doing that's kind of i'm not interested you ever heard pamela anderson says you say to the guy i would never marry you i used to do it all the time in seventh grade i'd be like i don't want to date you and they'd be like oh my god that's the trick it doesn't matter what you look like it doesn't i had braces okay

and they were like michael remembers they were like yellow clear braces oh man and i still was like you're lucky to be in my presence and i never am gonna date you that's that's the mentality you were fully developed i wasn't looking at your fucking braces honestly lucky that's amazing no but that's but that's mentality because you can have like i know people oh, like, why do you want a guy just to chase you? But it's having that confidence as a female to go, he's lucky to be chasing me. He's lucky that I'm even wanting to be with him. So you can kind of balance the whole, like, femininity and masculinity

by being like, I can be with myself. I can be with him. I can be with someone else. I think what it comes down, like, you don't want to play too much. I think what it comes down to for everyone, guys, girls, whatever,

any gender, people don't like to feel desperate energy from anyone. People don't like to be around. I think it's like insecurity, desperate energy, neediness, clinginess. It's guys,

girls, business and friendships. It's not even just in relationship and business. Like you just, you want a little bit of mystery and you don't want to feel like this is somebody's only option. What's the quote, if you can be easily had? What's that quote?

If you can be easily had, it's not worth much. I don't know what the quote is. I read the book, Why Men Love Bitches, twice. And I thoroughly think it helped. And I think every woman should read it, especially if they're dating or on our age it's the games need to be played essentially just a tag like did we tell you guys that we were gonna ask you what's in your bag yes okay Sistine you go first what is in your bag okay and

you have to show the bag like you have to tell us what the bag is this bag is Ralph Lauren cute nice i got it because i went to one of those shows a few years ago really cute setting yes um my phone case i got on canal street thank you uh some sunglasses i don't know what the brand is those are you're lucky to be in my presence glasses yeah literally those are the it's v-e-L-A. Yeah, you're lucky to be in my friends. These are cool. I have my digital camera always. Do you actually use it? Yeah, all the time.

Like on my Instagram. Okay. Oh my gosh. Also, you know what it is? Whenever I go out with people and you're with your girlfriends, no one ever wants to take a photo on their phone, but everyone wants to be on this. So it just kind of brings people together.

My keys. Pepper spray. Oh shit. Did Sly tell you to do that? Oh yeah. We're not allowed to leave without it. My keys. Pepper spray. Oh, shit. Did Sly tell you to do that? Oh, yeah. We're not allowed to leave without it. He actually will call us and show me that you have it

because he won't believe us. Actually, that's so funny. Dual pepper spray. Cheers. I used to have a little knife. That's a good idea. Why don't you have me pepper spray? That's cute.

Go on. Yeah, okay, good. A little knife. And then makeup. So I have the Makeup Forever Pressed Powder, Refy Clear Gloss, another lip gloss, and it forever lip liner in the shade anywhere caffeine love it yes all right okay sophia what's in your bag my little prada bag i love it um okay so first is my kindle

always reading see that's hot if i was a I was a guy, carry a Kindle. I'm talking to a really cute guy right now. That's hot. Like, really cute. And I told him, I was like, oh yeah, I read three to four books a month. He was like,

that's so hot. It is hot. It's hot. Thank you. That's a good one. Librarian. Oh, my casual Kindle. I know.

Oh, just my casual Kindle. Obviously, the pepper spray. I'm a big perfume person. I think smell. Like, if a guy smells really good, it's my biggest turn on. And for me, I love right now Missing Person. It's like this.

It's a musky kind of vanilla-y scent. Sophia has the most insane nose ever. Yeah. You need a rack, go to her. I can smell your perfume and know what it is. I have my little gloss. I'm not as complex with like makeup. Oh, I'll never leave without a hairbrush.

Cute. Sophia and i will actually i'll tell you this everyone wants me to brush their we go out a lot together so strategically she'll pack her bag with things that she knows i already have so she'll have the hairbrush the lip gloss and i'll bring powder you guys might need the hardy boys what are they called again oh the harvey boy it was hardy hardy boys you guys you guys might need brothers. Seriously. We love best friends. We've been saying our dream is to go on vacation with two guys that are best friends and we're dating them and we would go to some tropical place.

Like we haven't had a couples trip. Get a house next to each other, build a tunnel. What about actually like a little separation? No. It's so funny. I teared up the other day with her because we were saying, oh my, because every night we have this routine. We sit on the floor, we watch reality TV and we eat our soup or eat our salad or whatever. No, but we have our routine after the like a long day. We like to like watch our shows and we eat our dinner. What's the reality show that you're watching? Oh, everything. We've watched every

single housewife. We've watched every single Love is Blind, Love Island, everything. There's not one reality show we've missed. But my point is, is I was looking at her and I love this time with her. I started tearing up because we're like, we're not going to have this like in the next few years. Like we're not going to be able to sit here on this floor, eating food in New York City as sisters working together. And it made me tear up because like,

I cannot literally imagine being honest. Like I said, here's what you guys should do. You guys should get houses next to each other. We're going to build a tunnel underneath and we say it's going to be our girl plan. Yeah, just build it underneath and you guys can live next to each other. What my mom and her sisters did is one of them got pregnant. She'd call and say, I'm pregnant. And then they'd have a baby.

Yeah. So all of our cousins are the same age. So we're going to do that. We're thick as thieves. Scarlett's the only one that's going to be the offbeat one. We sound psychotic. No, I think it's cute. I love's cute i love it like a lot i think you guys are adorable you guys can come back anytime pimp out your podcast everything tell us when your book's going to come out your instagram where can all the guys find you taylor's looking you up right now yes

taylor this is for you my instagram is at sistine stallone and sophia's is that sophia stallone our podcast is called Unwax Podcast on every social platform every Tuesday. People like slide into the DMs. Is that what happens? Oh, absolutely. Oh, we slide in as well.

Is that a creepy move? I actually, I make first moves. We slide in. Is that bad? Is that bad? I make first moves because they don't.

No. So I just do it. It's working for me. Can we do like a subtle first move? Does it have to be a slide in the DM? Can we like a photo see i just go for it i just literally will say this i'll tell you this the only time that's kind of hot though i kind of like that i like that i've only slid in if you're giving me

incentive to if they're like liking my photos and watching my like my stuff and i know that they're kind of interested then i'll be like hey see lauren we don't even know anything we have no idea of what's even like oh you guys we have but it's a rarity for us to slide in like michael's for you pages watches and chihuahuas so sorry michael that's adorable you guys thank you so much for coming on the show thank you guys if you're looking to clean up the products in your home a great place to start is your candles go check out our non-toxic