The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Southern Charm's Naomie Olindo & Helen Hall On Weight Management, Human Design, Intermittent Fasting, & Daily Routines

Episode Date: July 24, 2020

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her.

And I didn't have these huge expectations. I just thought I was going to be rolling them in my kitchen, you know, making a couple hundred bucks every week, selling to the people. And then I started, like, sharing testimonials, reposting testimonials that people would text me. And it blew up. It just blew up. I started getting all these online orders. And Naomi, you posted about your weight loss.

And it just continued blowing up. That clip was from our guests of the show today, Naomi Olinda and Helen Hall. Their major, this episode goes all over the place. We get so much juice, tips and tricks from both these girls. They're best friends and together they've started a company together called 8020. Obviously, you know Naomi from Southern Charm. If you haven't watched Southern Charm, you're missing out. And then Helen Hall, I met in Charleston and she is an entrepreneur and the owner of Blender Bombs. Together, they are powerhouses and we get into it into this episode. And I'm actually going to blame them for my hangover. Yeah, I mean, well, I'll just blame that. Like I would just abuse myself too much as a kid. And if I even see or smell alcohol now, I'm hungover for months. You have to be in bed pretty early now.

Yeah, I'm an old man, Lauren. I'm an old man. You've been getting really wellness-y lately, though. You have your vitamins organized. You even got a fridge for your vitamins in your bathroom. I might take a drinking hiatus. Really? Yeah.

How long? Two weeks. Two weeks. I'll believe it when I see it. No, I mean, I'm not a big drinker, but you know. You have... The price is too high to pay now. I can't, I suffer too much.

My hangovers are so bad. I know, and I have to hear about it. It's so annoying. You wake up, you're dehydrated in the middle of the night. You're trying to steal my water. It's a whole thing. It's too much now. I put my humidifier on last night and I feel like I'm okay.

But the limoncello might've got me. Okay, we are so excited to have Naomi and Helen on the show. We go all over the place here. We talk entrepreneurship, we talk beauty, we talk health, we talk southern charm, we talk ayahuasca, you get into it. Oh, and you should also know we talk all about both of their weight losses. They had a huge weight loss, each of them, and they really, really spill the juice on what they did to lose the weight. So I know you guys are going to love this episode. With that, let's welcome Naomi and Helen to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her. I am so hungover from limoncello.

I'm going to blame you guys from last night. You liked it. I liked it, but jeez, I'm feeling it this morning. I can't believe that's all it took for y'all to be hungover, both of you. You know what? You guys can drink, huh? I know. It's Charleston. I mean, I feel like I can drink too, but you guys like Charleston, like you guys get down there.

Yeah. Charleston's a drinking town. Like everybody has a drinking problem. That's why I get eczema. See it? It comes out in the summer because I drink a lot. Oh. More in the summer than I do in the winter.

But then you can just fix it with 80-20 so you're fine. I fix it. I wish I could give you the credit for making me hungover, but it's literally like if I even look at alcohol these days, I'm hungover because I drank too much when I was a kid. I just like, I can't even see it anymore. If I see it, I'm hungover. Does that change after you had a baby? Do you drink less or more?

I'm probably a bigger pussy now with the baby, especially the girl. I'm a little bit softer, you know? I can tell. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you are. If you wake up i if i you wake up every morning and you have some fucking other ailment it's like my ear hurts my elbow hurts my thumb hurts it's like i look michael i just gave birth i also have like the dad sneezes now you

know like a really loud yeah you sound like a pit bull yeah it's just like out of nowhere that's horrific i have those okay so i like really thought about my first question for you guys and i just the one question that kept coming up for me is this question. How the fuck do you guys look so good? Both of you. Like, do we look that good? Yeah, you guys both like both of you look so good in my makeup. Well, I actually was I'm actually referring to like your figures, but your faces look

amazing, too, because I know like you guys both have talked about how you lost weight with blender moms but i kind of want to get into like the details the nitty-gritty the day-to-day because you guys like in person you guys look fucking amazing you look like your face tuned in person oh that's the sweetest thing anyone's ever had to me my whole life helen and i actually have even though we both fall kind of 80 20 are our versions of 80 20 are very different meaning helen really practice what she preaches you know she really is healthy and for me you know sometimes are you calling yourself out binge a little adderall here and there or just like wait if i'm having a hard time fasting like intermittent fasting in the morning i'll just be like time for an adderall

today i guess hold on i have a question about addderall. We're going to go off on a tangent. Okay. So I've tried Adderall high school. Definitely tried it, but it made me a fucking psycho. Yeah. Yeah. I can't do it. Like what's the secret? I feel like it, I feel like it fucks with my metabolism and makes me crazy. Yeah. I mean, I, I really don't recommend it, but I feel like I have to be honest about what, you know, like what I do sometimes. It's definitely not all the time. But, yeah, if I'm having a hard time kind of kick-starting something or I'm just ravaged all the time, I'll have a little caffeine. You're also just coming out of like a really, really dark place, though. Like what happened with your dad?

Yeah, yeah, that's true. So, yeah, I mean, my dad passed away in December. And we've talked about this. And so it was hard for me to eat at first. And then I was overeating because I was eating my feelings. And so it was, you know, needed a little something to help me balance. And, again, I don't recommend. I think Adderall is, like, very toxic and horrible.

And I know so many people that are so addicted to it. But for me, I took some on occasion and it helped me and now you know I don't do it so much I just like I need to be honest about it because I hate nothing more than when people are like this is what I eat in a day and it's I'm like I know that's not what you eat in a day you know this is like an edited version of what you want people to think you're eating in a day. And so what I really ate today was a small Adderall and maybe a bag of Doritos. And then I had a healthy dinner or something, you know, like, let's just be honest about what we're really eating, because

most people just said what they want you to think that they're eating. And it's bullshit. I don't like it. I actually appreciate that so much because I've interviewed so many women and you know, like some of them are taking Adderall and no one's ever been honest this is the first time ever anyone has ever said that on the show so that I mean that's intriguing to me I don't take it I'll probably regret it but no you won't but you're she's so honest and another thing while we're on the topic birth control like tell them about what happened like your birth control experience oh yeah I mean birth control made me borderline suicidal. Like I didn't, I didn't feel right hormonally. You know, I did, what is it called? Kyelina? Kybella goes in your face. I think Kyelina goes in. It was an IUD and it was a hormonal IUD. And I have never felt so

bad in my life. I was putting on weight and I only kept it two months because I couldn't last any longer. And it made me insane. It made me put on weight. I felt like dying. And then I got the copper IUD and my life totally changed. And I started reading all these blogs and all these things because I asked my OB, I'm like, what, why am I feeling this bad? This is not normal. And she goes, no, it's fine. I mean, this is what I would give to my daughter and there are no, there's nothing really showing that this is dangerous. And then when I really started reading kind of the Reddit threads, you know, like the deep dark internet, I saw thousands of women were having problems with hormonal birth control, like thousands of people. And it's not talked about, people don't know. And so, so many women are out there feeling bad or feeling crazy or feeling this and that, and

it's not their fault, you know, or gaining weight. And it's not their fault. And I know you talk about how you kind of were getting your hormones fixed. It's so important. It's such an important subject. It's wild. I went to get my hormones checked and they said, you have a low thyroid. And if you literally worked out seven days a week and barely ate anything you would not lose weight so i would have been sitting there doing everything that i that i can do in my

power with a little wine on top let's be honest she's disciplined too like lauren i work out every single day it's like in my calendar and nothing would have happened and then i got prescribed a thyroid medicine and i feel so much better i have have so much more clarity and I always say it's like the thyroid medicine, you can't take it if you don't have a thyroid problem. So don't get any ideas, but it does feel like an Adderall without the comedown, which is like, okay. But the other hormones, progesterone, that's the best pronouncer and testosterone were also low too so i think like that i think your message is really important if you are on birth control or you do have an iud and you feel fucking psycho it's something to look into because

hormones are real and michael bostick has lived to tell the tale that hormones are real oh yeah do i have a black eye i mean postpartum hormones like if you are sensitive now i gotta be careful because i see the people going oh my god this guy he was so rude to his wife about her postpartum and his comments and i'm like you are kind of a dick let's be honest do you remember when you got locked in a room how'd they make you feel oh yeah i mean i don't care anyways i read those comments that they write but i don't give a shit about them. But yeah, we're very different. And to go back to your question, I'm like you, I'm very regimented. So I fast almost every day, probably five days a week. Again, I know I need like exact details. What time are you fasting? Like walk us through the whole thing. So I like to sleep in. I like

to go to bed late, sleep in. And so that for me is about 12 p.m. and then 8 a.m., 8.30, I wake up. But if I, here's a trick, this is like the best trick ever. So obviously I'm engaged. I live with my fiance. If I want to wake up early around 6, 6.30, I have to sleep in a separate bedroom. I have to, because morning cuddles, like I definitely spend two nights a week minimum sleeping in a separate bed when I want to be productive. Because otherwise I'll sleep in because it's, I just like to cuddle, you know, you know what I'm saying? And so I up drink water coffee and then around 11 30 12 I will have a smoothie and I used to make my own smoothies but ever since we opened the smoothie bar I uber eats smoothies most of the week and that's lazy I admit it but I just know that that's what I have to do

right now if I want my smoothie I don't think it's lazy yeah I think it's well I think thank you I think it's efficient because I do the same thing. I know I overspend on food delivery services, but I like know that I'm also saving time to be productive in other areas. And so listen, like people like, oh, that's wasteful money, but not for me. And for people that do it, I think that you're doing a trade-off between time and productivity. And like, I would rather sacrifice a couple dollars to be more productive in other areas. I don't have time to go and make a smoothie and all my lunches. And you want to feel good. You want to eat your best. So what time do you guys stop eating?

Because I know you're big on intermittent fasting. What is the time that you're like, like last night we ate late. So what do you do? Hey, hey, hey, let me tell you about Michael's new best friend. Each and every. Each and every is. I can breathe again. The new deodorant I can breathe again.

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Naomi today because her birthday's in a few weeks and I was like planning a birthday dinner and the options on the reservation were 6 p.m. or 8 p.m. Okay. So immediately I'm like, let's go 6 p.m. And she's like, absolutely not. Like we went to 8. I like to eat early. So Scott and I, and a lot of people say it's an issue with their relationship. We don't eat dinner at the same time most of the time. And we also eat very differently, but we work together. We live together, sleep together. And if I don't have dinner with him, especially because we don't have kids, then I fine i'm fine eating by myself and i'll sit with him while he eats dinner i'm just not gonna eat with him fuck just get a separate house you don't

sleep in the same bed just it just you don't eat dinner together just get a separate house i know less bites we don't eat dinner together every time no we don't eat dinner together every time because i don't love your food choices all the same it's like yeah y'all are independent i don't love your food choice i can't i can't like. Yeah. Y'all are independent. It's okay. I don't love your food choices. I can't. I can't. I don't want to eat like a bunch of string beans for dinner. Artichoke salad. Whatever you're doing.

You. Your order was wrong last night. It was wrong. I thought that the tuna was. We. To give context. We all went to dinner last night. I thought the tuna was going to be the right choice.

It was the wrong choice. Oh, you didn't like it? No. I was pissed off about it the whole time. You're going to be in the rest of my pasta. Why didn't you. No. Because I was.

I was trying to be disciplined. I'm like, okay, I'm going to get back in shape. There's quarantine. I got to like get back at it. I can't be doing pasta. And then I had that and I was pissed. You know what? I want to tell you something so interesting

about my husband. That's so annoying too at the same time. He has no attachment to food. I love it. None. None. This is Lauren's theme of her life. I love good food.

No, you don't care. But I don't pine over it. I don't think about it a lot. I love good food. Nah, you don't care. But I don't pine over it. I don't think about it a lot. I've never heard you in the whole 800 million years we've been together say, oh my God, I'm craving it. Who was the guy we just had on the show? Oh, Dr. G. If I could take a pill that would just give me

all my food and nutrients and just keep moving on, I do like enjoying sitting down and spending time with people. But I think you could see last night at dinner, once it's over, it's over for me. You're up, you're out. I'm up and out. You gotta go. out his dad's the same way he can't sit at a table with no i can't with dirty dishes and once the drink and the check i'm out no i'm like european in the way where like i want to schmooze okay i would be european if we had european vibes in america

i would be european about it but we don't have those vibes here it's always people are banging around and the motorcycles the girls behind us were like taking pictures eating their spaghetti but they weren't even really eating it yeah what was that i fucking hate la yeah what is that was that was that was an instagram shoot behind us oh yeah oh absolutely yeah that was that was like fake pasta to the mouth situation and i think another thing i forgot to mention that you'll really appreciate is so we we eat differently and i eat so high carb and so low fat. And so I don't eat meat unless it's venison. Maybe a couple of times a year, like if someone shoots it that I know I'll eat it.

And I don't eat much fish unless I'm out of the country because I don't trust the American waters and fishes look like sponges and it just freaks me out. But I eat so much pasta, not necessarily pasta, like unrefined carbs, sourdough bread, and just not a lot of fat. And I don't gain weight that way. But the second I start adding in fat with the carbs, I gain weight immediately. So avocado toast, for example, avocados are super high fat. Sourdough bread, super high carb. When I combine the two and I eat it every day, I gain weight. But say I just have the bread with like some jelly on top, which is high sugar or in high carb, but not high fat. I don't gain weight. That's just how my body works. She's different. Both of you guys have have talked openly about your weight losses. And it wasn't a little weight

loss. You guys both lost a lot of weight. So can you tell us like you kind of told us what's working for you is maybe food combining. But can you tell us how you've also incorporated the blender bombs and the intermittent fasting like really like get detailed with it? Yeah. So, and this goes for both of us, but the blender bombs, the blender bomb has every essential amino acid and every essential fatty acid. And so for me, the hardest part for losing weight was late night eating and binge eating and just not having control over my cravings at all. And so when I started using the blender bombs, which we created, I worked with a doctor and he told me like the list of nuts and seeds to have every day because I wasn't eating meat. And so the blender bombs

have all the nutrients you need. Once I started having these every day, along with fruit, which is a natural sugar, I stopped having any late night cravings. So I didn't think about food anymore at night. I didn't think about wanting food. I thought, oh, I'm hungry. I'm going to eat. And now with the 80-20 concept, I'm like, as long as my meal is 80% whole foods, then I'm fine. I don't care what the other 20% is. I don't even think about it. How many blender bombs are you eating a day? Just one. And you just pop it in your smoothie? And what's your favorite go-to smoothie with it? Right now, it changes. But strawberry banana with peanut butter is by far my favorite. And which blender bomb?

Any of them. The peanut butter one, obviously, if I'm going to do peanut butter, the best seller is the aloe collagen and her favorite is the goji. Yeah. And so what's your smoothie choice if you have to do a blender bomb? So I, especially when I'm trying to feel better, like lose a little weight, even if it's just a couple pounds, I'll do all intermittent fast for, you know, as long as it takes really. And then I'll start with a blender bomb smoothie. But I do two blender bombs just because it's my preference. I like my smoothies a little thicker. I like the goji

acai and then I just use strawberry, banana, spinach, mango. And then I eat again, like, you know. Base water or almond milk? What do you guys do as base? Water and ice. Water and ice. But that's because of the bomb butter, which I don't have with me because I couldn't bring it on the plane. But bomb butter is, it's like a nut butter, but it's half the calories, half the fat, and double the fiber of a regular nut butter. So I use bomb butter. And instead of bomb butter, she uses another blender bomb.

But the bomb butter basically eliminates the need to buy a nut milk because it has that flax in it, which when you blend it with water, it's a nut milk. I wouldn't eat it plain because it's pretty. I've never tried that. I got to send you some. Ansley. Ansley is queen of making smoothies. She'll hook it up. Yeah. Ansley is my new executive assistant that

Helen introduced me to and she's amazing. I'm jealous. I want her so bad. And we're drinking a smoothie right now, which say what it is really quick. Mango, peaches, banana, blender bomb, almond butter, water, ice. Okay. So how do you guys start your morning? I want to know from how you stay productive. You're both running businesses. Is there a specific morning routine? I saw that that question you posted on Instagram was asked multiple times. Yeah, you go first because we're different again. Yeah. So I feel like I represent the 20% and Helen represents the 80%. But again, I'm just here to be honest about what I'm doing right now. So it's not always what I do. But yeah, right now, my routine is I get up, I hang out with my cats, I have coffee, I usually like hang out with my mom for 15-20 minutes, and then I go straight to

my office. And then I have my routine in my office, you know, where if I want, I'll fast, or if I'm hungry, I'll make a smoothie right away. Or sometimes I will have some Cheetos. It just depends on what I'm feeling like that day and what I want to do. And it's interesting, you said earlier that you're not really that attached to food. Or I think Lauren said that you weren't because Matul is the same way. But I feel like for me, the first thing I think about in the morning is what do I want to eat that day? And I get excited or I get happy based on what I feel like eating. So if that's a salad and that's what will make me happy, then I associate how good of a day I had with how good the food I had was. Not how healthy, but how good it tasted

to me at the time. Well, there's an element, I think, to that. I think one benefit when you're not like, I appreciate good food. So I want everyone to understand. It's not that I don't like food, but I don't have this crazy attachment to it. And I think that people that obsess over food and calories and their meals and what they're going to eat, and this may be controversial and I'm no health expert, but I feel like it caused a lot of cortisol and it causes a lot of stress hormones. And what happens is then when you're thinking like that about food all the time, it's a stressful situation. And then like you start to gain weight and not be able to lose it because you have so much stress in your system. So for me, like food's never been an issue for me,

luckily, because I don't think about it so much. But I think because of that, I don't have that stress hormone that's like constantly blasting my system and making it harder and harder to lose weight. So in a way, like even though you're not so focused on super healthy foods all the time, you're also not stressing over,

it sounds like you're not stressing a lot of time, which I think helps in terms of weight management. See, so you are European in that way. Yeah, that's like the most important way yeah that's like when i'm full i get up from like i'm done like i don't just like i think a lot of americans because we get these the portions here are way too out of control and like there's so much like we could talk about you do portion control too like you don't eat you're not glutton no when i'm full i stop eating like i don't just like overdo it everyone's like how could you not my fault that the restaurant decided to make a massive plate that they're going to waste that's not my problem like they should get their portions under control i can't eat like we can't we're not designed to

eat that much french boy he's french boy oh my god i'm gonna have to hear about this for the next you know it's gonna be like i'm a french boy when i was a kid i went to this guy's house a friend of mine in his i was like maybe like six or seven years old and the guy said i wasn't allowed to leave the table until I ate every bite. I know people are scarred, but like Taylor, for example. Taylor, didn't your grandpa make you like sit at the table for like eight years?

Something crazy like that. Yeah, didn't he make you eat with your fist or something? Oh my God, not the fist. Oh my God, your fucking mic's on for once. I can't believe it. I wasn't allowed or nobody was allowed to get up and leave the table until everything was done. And then there was no talking at the table.

Yeah. And tell us about the way you eat. Wait, hold on. I'll get back to him in a second. But what I'm saying is, I remember sitting there and being like that young. I think this is weird. I'm full.

I don't want to eat. And so I just stared this dad down for like literally like three hours until he got, I was supposed to spend the night and he sent me home. He was pissed. But I always thought that was a weird.

Who was that? Shout him out. No, no, I won't shout him out. But it was a weird American mentality where it's like, if you don't eat every drop, I think the better fix is just to actually serve proper proportions that people can actually eat without being gluttonous.

Maybe charge less money too. That is psychotic, forcing somebody to eat until they're past the point of feeling sick. So my dad was half Greek, half Italian, and his mom and grandma used to make him sit and they would keep serving him and keep serving him. And then he said that he would finish eating and lay down and feel like he was going to explode and smoke a cigarette and be like, okay, well, I'm dead for the next two hours. That is, and he had bad food habits his entire life because of that. That is some psycho stuff to

force somebody to eat. It's some psycho stuff. I also got this tip from a friend who lost 65 pounds. My friend Valentino told me, he said, don't weigh yourself in the morning. I don't. And I was doing that as I'm losing, I'm trying to lose weight postpartum. I was weighing myself every morning. And what it does is it sets your cortisol off if you're higher than you want to be. And there's so many different elements. It's like, are you on your period? Well, it's typically the lightest part of your day too, because you're higher than you want to be and there's so many different elements it's like are you on your period it's typically the lightest part of your day too because you're dehydrated yeah there's a million things so he said stop weighing yourself he told me this a week ago and i haven't weighed myself for a week and i'll i'll weigh myself in like three months you know what i mean i'll just like and then i can like wait and see i just think weighing yourself every day it just

ups your cortisol i don't think i've weighed myself in over two years. I don't own a scale. And that, what Michael just hit on, you know, not to make Michael look like a good guy here or anything. God forbid. What Michael just said about the cortisol thing, if anyone can take anything away from the last 20 minutes, what we've spoken about is that it's sleep, getting good sleep, meditation, or whatever your form of mindfulness is. Something just to bring your cortisol levels down, whether it's listening to happy music in the morning or prayer or whatever it is for you. Cortisol, I feel like it's that secret enemy of holding on to any sort of weight, which is probably a reason why people have thyroid issues too, from constant. I think that I have high cortisol. I'm going to blame it

on you. Like I'd always do. Can I ask you a question? So what's going to happen with this show now that you're all quitting? Because I'll be honest, I don't watch a lot of reality, but I've seen every season. I've seen one through how many seasons? I've seen everything. Obviously, we've interviewed Pat and I was watching from the beginning and I've seen your whole, you know, your evolving, evolving, evolving. That's a fucking word I'm looking for. Evolution.

Evolution. Yeah, sorry. But I want to know, like, if you're leaving and Kansley, all these people are leaving. Is this thing done? Is this thing, are we? No, I mean, I don't know, like, if you're leaving and Kamsley, all these people are leaving. Is this thing done? Is this thing, are we? No, I mean, I don't think so as far as I know. So Cameron, Chelsea, and I all kind of unanimously decided to stop just because it. But that's like the three, they're the three main girls.

Well, no, I mean, I don't really think I was a main person. I think it's more so Catherine and Cameron that are like the two main, main girls and Pat, of course. But so Catherine stayed. I mean, as far as I know, they're still filming and they have a couple new girls like my friend Leva. I mean, I love Leva. I think she's great. So we'll see. I mean, they're still going. It's not going to have as much sparkle. Patricia is the best ever. She's the best. So she'll add the sparkle but it is it's gonna miss the sparkle without you three when you think about like so we were talking about this a little

bit last night at dinner and i was wondering like what question was asked but like the type of person that could be successful on those shows because i think personally like i don't think lauren and i could do it i don't think our relationship could survive it it's just too crazy it's like what do you like what do you think what type of person do you think is successful on platforms like obviously you need to be i think lauren and i would be so boring you know because is just too crazy. It's like, what type of person do you think is successful on platforms? Like, obviously you need to be, I think Lauren and I would be so boring, you know, because we're in bed at nine o'clock.

There's not a lot of drama with a lot of other relationships. Like, I feel like you have to bring it to those things or else it doesn't quite work. Hold up, quick little break to talk about cereal. I was a big cereal lover when I was a kid and I am now. Huge cereal lover, but the problem is, as you get older and you learn what's in the cereal, you got to stop eating it.

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skinny and use the code skinny for free shipping. And of course, we want to thank Magic Spoon for sponsoring the podcast. All right, back to the show. God, that's a good question. Am I about to say this? I don't know. It's a safe space. Nobody's listening. I'm just gonna pretend. So yeah, I think that and again, I don't want to be like shitting on people that are still doing it or anyone in reality TV because I have lots of friends in reality TV and I think they're great people. But I do think that there's a certain element of a very specific personality type that it takes to do something like that. And, you know, maybe the first couple of seasons on a show when you're new and you're kind of green, you don't really know how it works. So you really are

yourself. And I think some people truly are themselves. But then after a few years, and which is why a lot of shows end up kind of getting canceled after several years, because it gets so robotic. And it's so like, okay, I mean, some people on Southern Charm will literally write notes and, you know, read books and write notes in the margins of like, oh, this is what this cast member does. So I want to crush my enemy and I'm going to follow this strategy. So people will strategize. And once it starts getting to that's, you know, try to ruin your marriage or your relationship or say something about your children or whatever, it's just too much. And personally for me, I can't be in that because it makes me depressed.

It makes me sad. And I don't want to be that kind of person. I don't want to be associated with that kind of negativity because it's like a really dark side of life. I mean, I was telling you, Lauren, that LA makes me anxious because I feel like there's a level of superficiality here. And I just can't vibe with it. I don't like it. And the show is kind of like

that, but to the extreme, I guess. With everything that just happened with your dad, was that also impactful on the decision that you made to leave? Because for me, like when my mom passed away, it put so much into perspective for me of like what's important and what's not. For sure. I mean, when negotiations were kind of happening, like right before my dad passed, so he was super sick. And so I was focused on that. And I did meet with the network a couple of times, you know, because my dad told me you should go. And then when he passed away, they're like, okay, it's time to film, you know, like, let's go. And I just could not imagine sitting down and filming and talking about

some of the bullshit that's talked about because I just didn't care anymore you know it just kind of something snapped and you were saying when you lost your mom it put things yeah majorly in perspective and you just really don't care about certain things anymore and that's kind of what what happened I couldn't even pretend to care if that makes sense yeah you just start to like view your life as an energy thermometer like where are you going to allocate the energy that you have every day and is it productive where you're allocating it and if that felt unproductive for you I mean I don't blame you I just don't like how I think that why like personally I would be so freaked out about something like that I don't like when someone's twisting and like turning words and creating narratives. Like the reason I like podcasting

so much more than anything is like you can have a conversation like this and it is what it is. Like people listening, like even when I make mistakes and can't say evolution or whatever the fuck I was trying to say. Like people can,

like it's not later edited and be like what, you know, it just feels very organic and normal. And there's not somebody out there like controlling what the narrative is here. So I just feel like I would be a complete train wreck on stuff like that, especially for a relationship. Also Brandy Glanville,

remember she was on Housewives and she, she outed, fuck, what's her name? Malou on having a surrogate. And when that happened, I was like, whoa,

like we're, we're turning a corner. That's like bringing the kids into it. You know, my thing was like, what if you we're, we're turning a corner. That's like bringing the kids into it. You know, my thing was like, what if you're an 11 year old kid and you're sitting watching your mom on housewives and you don't know that you were a surrogate because your mother wasn't ready to tell you. And he hears it from Brandy Glanville's mouth. I mean, that's some cease and desist shit. Well, I think what happens on all these shows is like, obviously there's a rating system and like there's advertisers that jump in and they all need to compete for you know prominent space and so they

just keep pushing the envelope further and further like oh what can i do to like get more shock value and it just gets further and further and further it's going to get to a point where like you know listen it's entertainment we all like like even myself watch it but i just don't like that it's a lot in a lot of senses it's fabricated and they're doing things to blindside and hurt people exactly we're always so constantly stimulated and that's what they do on tv they're always trying to stimulate you with a new plot twist and this and this and this and it's like that's to me why meditation is so important mindfulness because your whole life you are just constantly stimulated there's always going to be something changing or catching your attention

where not many people are prioritizing just chilling out or going to a ranch and relaxing. How do you practice mindfulness? Do you do it in the morning? You didn't tell us your morning routine. Yeah, I do it constantly, like literally all throughout the day. I meditate when I wake up. It's a guided meditation. I still haven't mastered like meditating by myself, but meditating in the morning. Headspace? I use Insight Timer. Okay. I've done Headspace before. I use it for a long time. And then one of my friends started like putting her podcast on Insight Timer. So I did that to support her. And then just practicing gratitude throughout the day, taking deep breaths. I feel like I've, because I've been doing this probably for about two years now, just being intentional about it. Someone could attack me and snap my head off and I don't think

I'd get mad. But if you had asked me this question three years ago, I would punch them in the face. But I've been tested so many times over the last couple years and Naomi's the same way. So is Matul. Not my Scott. I love Scott, but he'll snap. But Matul's the same way. No matter how much someone pushes our buttons, we've all kind of learned not to snap back. Do you think that's because Matul's an anesthesiologist? Because he's so, he's so used to like being under pressure that he's able to be in a pressure cooker anytime and he won't burst. No, I think it's actually his family. His parents are Hindu and they, so they meditate a lot and his dad is so calm. And you know, no matter if somebody does something bad to them or whatever, they believe in karma.

They don't believe in retaliation. They believe in staying positive. And that's trickled down to him so much and now to me. What's the sentence that your dad has in your house? It's like the first thing you see when you walk into the living room, the lines. In this house, we. Oh, yeah. Well, this is a whole other problem.

But my parents love, like, sticky wall art. But that's fine. Yeah, I came home one day and they had found this at tj maxx and my dad was like we love it this is this represents our family and you know they're they're french and they're cute and they think like american sayings are are cool and so it's like in this house we say sorry we keep our promises we give hugs we and i was like okay it's like no one's watching i mean pretty much you know but my dad's like they truly believed it so they stuck it to the wall and you should take the stick yard and you should frame it and put it in your house i'm telling you it's awesome it's like it's like a cute reminder yeah it's adorable i mean it's like so not cute that

it's cute you know what i'm saying i read it every time I walk in your house. Yeah. It's like in this house, we say. Yeah. So the first thing you do when you wake up, you meditate. Look at my phone to open the meditation thing. But yeah, I meditate. So you're a big meditator. Probably five days a week, though, not seven days a week. 80-20. 80-20. Tell us about 80-20. Like explain how you guys, I know that Naomi talked about her weight loss on Instagram and people freaked out. And it seems like that was that like sort of the foundation for how you guys decided to partner on 80-20? I've been, 80-20 has obviously been around in so many different circumstances for forever. The concept of 80-20. Yeah, the concept of 80-20. You know, like you put

in 20% of what you do brings about 80% of your revenue with business, that type of concept. So with- The Pomeretto. Pomeretto? Pomermeretto palmeretto yeah that exactly i'll forget that guy's name but that's it and so when i started blender bombs there's only 10 blender bombs in a box and that's the reason why we don't do 14 is because we don't want people to feel like they have to go through a box every two weeks so if they go through they do five smoothies a week instead of seven which is why we have 10 instead of 14. But that kind of translated into, we've both been through periods where we were 100% plant-based or 100% vegan or 100% pescatarian, whatever. And it is just so draining to try and be perfect all the time. It's so draining. And so 80-20 for food and meditation, exercise, sleep patterns,

relationship intentions, like anything like that, I think 80-20 can transition really well. Because as long as you are being, you're making conscious, a conscious effort to do something to reach your goals 80% of the time, that's all that matters. If you try to do anything 100% of the time, you're going to get so frustrated, your cortisol levels are going to rise because you can't do anything 100% of the time it's not life and it creates this negative headspace of self-loathing where you think if you don't do everything perfectly you know and you mess up once so we call that the 20% that it's not even worth getting back on track because why you've already messed up so who cares just let go and then that's how people let themselves go and so we really want to share

with people that it's okay if you're doing your best and then you, you know, spend a couple of days eating what you want and not working out. It doesn't matter. Just then get back on the horse for a little while. And then you can have another cheat day if you want or cheat meal or not work out. And it's fine. Like it's fine. And eventually you get so used to not being perfect that you stop thinking about calories. You stop looking at nutrition labels. You start focusing on how you feel, like the ingredients behind what you're eating rather than like the calories, fat, protein, carbs. And it's been so, it's been like a blessing for me because I used to be orthorexic, I guess. It's like when you're too structured or like you

care too much about food, you won't eat anything bad. And so 80-20 has been a good balance for us. You know what we need to discuss for a quick second, Michael? What, Lauren? The best thing ever. What is it? Sex? No. Okay. It has to do with dogs. Dogs. Yes. That's where I was going, Lauren. Yes. DNA specifically for dogs. And that's why we want to talk about Embark. Okay. So you can test your dog's DNA now. That's right. You can identify over 350 breeds, types, and varieties and screen for over 175 genetic health conditions to help your vet provide the best medical care for your dog. I don't know if you guys are like us, but my dog, both my dogs, are my life.

So to have this kit is insane so if you have a new dog or you have an old friend we have pixie she's 16 we have boone who's six you can just use an embark breed and health test and it's really the key to unlocking your dog's unique breed mix it's all in one it's so simple it comes in this little box straight to your door, and you can learn your dog's ancestry back to their great-grandparents and match your dog's relatives. It's like a dog family tree. You know, Lauren and I are on this show all the time talking about how important it is to take individual health care seriously and to figure out what works for you individually as a person, identifying your DNA, what works, what doesn't.

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She is pescatarian. And I strive to be mostly plant-based. And then also, I think, what else? I mean, what made the biggest difference for me, aside from fasting, of course, because I already sometimes wasn't eating that much in the mornings. And I think a lot of people eat less than they realize in the mornings. But it was the first meal that I was having instead of it being some really like greasy, shitty food because I was starving. Even if you want to have a burger right after, just have a Blender Bomb smoothie first. And even if you don't want it, just have it. I guarantee you, you'll feel better. And you might, you still can have the burger, but you

might eat a little less of it. And then over time, you start building these habits where you stop these cravings of this shitty food that is going to get in the way of your weight loss or whatever it is that you want. And you're going to start being like, oh, I'll just have a smoothie or I'll just have this. And it's these tiny incremental changes that made a huge difference for me because it took me almost a year to lose weight, but people noticed all of a sudden, you know what I mean? But it was a long buildup and like a long maintenance also, but people see it and they're like, oh my God, what happened? Or like, you're so lucky. I'm like, what are you talking about lucky? You know, this has been going on, you just didn't know. So. And what about for you? Well, another thing is I did, we both lost weight out

of self-loathing at the beginning is how it was. Like we didn't like the way we looked. You were going through a breakup. I just had gained a bunch of weight in college and I didn't know how to cope with it. And so we both started our weight loss in a negative mindset. And when we both were trying to lose weight with that as our intention, like we're losing weight because we're not happy with ourselves, it didn't work. It was like a fluctuation. It was up and down. We never permanently lost weight. But once I changed my mindset to be, I want to be healthier and like I want to eat more plants, oh, immediately I could start seeing results. That is so interesting that you say that because I'm having this really big obsession right

now with Dr. Joe Dispenza. And basically he says that as humans, when we wake up in the morning, our first thought of the day always goes to the negative. So like it could be, what did I say last night when I was drinking? Or, you know, was I good at that dinner? Or shit, I have to do a conference call today that's an hour long. Like your brain automatically goes to the negative.

So we evolved to like look for danger, right? And survive. And so that's why you look to those things. Yeah. So he just said that if you can know that your brain is going to go to the negative and switch it to a positive, it's a muscle that you can keep working. And so now I'm almost now observing my thoughts.

So almost like outside of my thoughts being like, oh, that's negative thinking. I need to switch it every single time I think a negative thought. So in the morning, I woke up this morning and I was like, oh, I have to do this and this and this and this and all these things and the baby. And I was like, oh, I have to do this and this and this and this and all these things and the baby and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

Hold on. And I like reframe the whole thing. Next time we start to get in a fight, I want you to stop and observe your thoughts while you're in it. My thoughts are 100% accurate. There's been some pretty

wacky behavior lately. Yeah, there is wacky behavior when you're postpartum and you just gave birth to a baby. I got to call you out. There's been not a lot of observing of thoughts when we fight. I want to hear the wacky behavior. I'm a fucking whack job. I love baby. I got to call you out. There's been not a lot of observing of thoughts when we fight.

I want to hear the wacky behavior. I'm a fucking whack job. I love it. I love that. No, like, okay, first of all, when you're postpartum, you're not yourself. I can't explain it. Like, you're just not. Every little sound that he makes is, like, more annoying.

Like closing the drawers. Oh, the drawers. Today, he's opening the drawers. Get the whisper drawers. Invest a little bit more. What do we have? What is that drawer system we have? is like more annoying like closing the drawers oh the drawers today he's opening the door get the whisper drawers invest a little bit more what do we have what is that you also slam the door like i'm just very sensitive to noise and sound but let me now let me and i also don't get why you have to turn the light on but now let me say this i like the shade these slams and these things she's talking about are just normal activities that are not slams and not as if she's postpartum

and she thinks that these are like the other day we got out of the elevator and i like stepped loudly when we got off and she's like what what do you bang i'm like i'm just walking normally she's just hypersensitive right now yeah you're hypersensitive it's it's really gnarly and it's not like i got a handbook on how to deal with postpartum if everybody else in this room heard me shut the drawer like okay you shut a drawer like but for her you know but it doesn't matter what what it really is all that matters is how she perceives it and then it's you doing it no one else yeah i i don't think we this is a you know i couldn't get away with this i couldn't be like well you know it's that time where i just you know my brain baby i know i know that that's why i look something my favorite thing ever like ever is when i was literally breastfeeding with a huge rash down my back after i just gave

birth two days later. How about this? And you said you had a headache. How about this? I'll give you, you get the pass and I'll be like, okay. Yeah, it's like... So the men get a little something. Sometimes I think he's joking. I'm like...

Maybe if we're hungover, like I get the same pass as when you're postpartum. Girls are going to write him so pissed off. But I want a little pass. I'm like, oh, maybe I have a headache today. So I can act a little wacky and I can maybe be a little grumpy. No. Michael, I think this is a cry for help. Yeah.

I think that's what this is. If anyone's listening. This entire fucking podcast is going to cry for help. Go date a guy. Like, this is what you get with me. Take it or leave it. Honestly, if I, I like wouldn't mind it. I feel like it'd be a little easier in some senses.

Go date a guy. Maybe my next, if this relationship doesn't work out. You guys should fist each other. Listen, I was thinking about what you're saying. You know, when you break up, you get in really good shape and i haven't had a breakup and we haven't been broken up in 11 years i probably get i probably get in like really good shape you guys both look great i really feel like you're way too i mean you said yesterday you think that you're 20 pounds i mean that's that's just too hard on herself i do you have like bdd

like that's too much i might have i might have bdd and again living in la it's doing it to you therefore you need to move to charleston with us i think so too michael can stay here since charleston's too slow he can stay in the fast did that offend you when i said that no i was wondering no it's impossible to offend us no it's it's charleston is slower than la like and that's why we like it yeah honestly though like my ranch that I'm getting. No, I. That you're working towards. Listen, this is maybe this will be the offensive part. I don't think I like slow, but I don't. I feel like the the services are slow.

Like, for example, Lauren went to go get a blowout one time there. And this is literally my story. You take my stories, repackage them. I'll tell you why I had to suffer because I had to wait. I had to wait. And it was like it took so much longer than it does in other places but i think there's something beautiful about that it's like it's like slow down everything is so so fast it's almost too fast you're like and then life goes by so fast and before you know it i get it no but i mean like listen even if you talk about being in france like there's it's a slower pace but it's

not slow does that make sense like the people there are efficient in the service industry. That's fine. Well, why were you waiting on her to finish her blowout? Why didn't you entertain yourself? She's like, it'll take a few seconds. And I was like... Well, that's your first mistake. But you know what I'm saying?

There's a difference between slow pace and slow. Okay, then let's move to France. She makes up for it by not showering. I think you were given the wrong expectations on it taking a few seconds. Because if you say like, it'll take an hour and a half. Which is a little more realistic. Yeah.

Well, that's, I think that's like my experience with women in general. Right. But just like in my wife specifically. It's like, hey, we'll be there in five. And then it's 45. I feel like we're pretty low maintenance though. Lauren? You think Lauren's low maintenance?

Is that wrong? She doesn't wash her hair. She doesn't shower. Taylor, Taylor, get on the mic immediately. You think Lauren think Lauren's low maintenance is that wrong she doesn't wash her hair she doesn't shower Taylor Taylor get on the mic immediately you think Lauren Everts is low maintenance I know I mean

there's a lot that is high maintenance but the goal of her being high maintenance in some aspects is so that she doesn't have to spend her mornings getting ready

yeah what's the what's the housewife say I'm a riddle wrapped in an enigma or something which one says that Lauren is you never know what i am

i whenever we get into like a crazy fight lauren's like i'm leaving and you're leaving and i'm gonna go somewhere else and i'm like listen the next guy that gets you good fucking luck guy like this this is not low she might be expensive but she does save time in the morning not even expensive just like there's a lot there's a lot to unwrap here you know i don't think i'm that i mean thank goodness she's not boring i think you should be thankful that your wife takes care of herself she's definitely not boring no and i am thankful yeah married to a smoke show but she is not low maintenance okay i want to talk about business because you guys i was saying you're both deceptively intelligent i would agree i want to talk can you kind of tell the audience each of you how you've built

your business and maybe how you've leveraged the show and how you started Blender Bombs? Like walk us through how you had the idea, how you started it, where it came from, the origin, all the stuff. Okay, cool. So I started Blender Bombs when I was, how old was I? I went in 2017. Yeah. 23, 22. I don't even remember.

I had just graduated college. I did the corporate world for three months and I cried every day during lunch. I cried. I would call my boyfriend and cry. I was so miserable. I was chained to a desk, had to clock out to go to the bathroom. And I was only allowed to go to the bathroom like five times a day. It's horrible. What? Is that even allowed with HR? I didn't think so. I like looked into suing them because it was traumatic. I don't think that's allowed. I don't think so either. I'll tell you the name of the company later. We can hit them up. Put them on blast right now. I think that they're closing their offices actually because of COVID,

but they have thousands of employees. Anyway, so that's when I switched to become a personal trainer because that's what I was doing in my spare time. Oh, I got to tell you this story of me getting fired from the corporate job. Oh, yeah. This is funny. So it was a job where I'm a middleman between an insurance company and, you know, the employee of a big company, just so that the employees don't have to directly speak

to the insurance companies. Because who understands insurance companies? To be honest, nobody does. So she was yelling at me, this girl's yelling at me for something I couldn't control. I said, excuse me, let me put you on a brief hold. I put my headset on mute. I looked at my coworker. I said, this woman sings such fucking bitch. And she goes, I can hear you. And Helen got fired. And 30% of the calls get listened to. So I had a panic attack. I told my boss that I called someone a bitch and then I got fired. That's when I became personal trainer. Thank God. And can I tell a story about when you did first become a personal trainer and when you wanted to start Blender Bombs. And I want anyone that's listening to this that's having doubts or that has somebody that is pseudo supportive, but not fully supportive, like that doesn't want you to follow your dreams or they say they do. So it can

be kind of confusing. But Helen was dating somebody at the time who, you know, was a friend of mine. And she said, you know, I kind of want to start this, this business. And I want to, I want to make these, these Blender Bombs because she had been making them for all of us and we were using them. And so it's like, okay, maybe this needs to become a thing. And he was like, Helen, you'll never make it. Are you kidding me? Like selling these small things to put in your smoothies, like that's so dumb. And that's just a terrible idea. You need to stick to your corporate job. And she didn't listen to him. And thank God, because now Blender Bombs is a huge and extremely successful company. And I'm just so proud of you that you didn't listen to that shit, because there are so many people out there that let people negatively influence them or scare them

from making that leap. And you didn't. Why do you think you didn't listen to him? I'm going with my gut. I just knew that didn't listen to him? Going with my gut. I just knew that it was, I just knew I went with my gut and I had people texting me for them. So obviously there was a demand. I felt like a drug dealer with people coming to pick up blender bombs outside. Tell us about that. I think there's two, there's a time when it's like,

okay, you have a real conversation with yourself and say like, does that person have merit? And then there's a time to identify like, hey, is this person passing their fear and insecurity onto me? Right? Like, and I think that's exactly what you have to distinguish between the two, because I think there's, there's productive conversations be happy, like, hey, like, maybe there's a hole in the business. There's not, you're obviously been very successful with this. But that's something okay, like you can entertain. But then there's another world where what you're

talking about, whether someone that's being negative and just passing their insecurities and their fears onto you. We needed to break up long before that. He actually texted me last week asking if he could have it by a blender from me that was signed with my name on it. He sounds like a big pussy. He is. He was evil. But anyway, so I started making these blender bombs for people. And my mom, for my birthday present in 2017,

she took me to Costco, spent, you know, $150 on pecans, almonds, chia seeds, all these nuts and seeds that you can buy at Costco and dates. And then my dad bought my LLC and that was $300. And we've been profitable ever since. Like I had zero money at the time. I maybe had three clients that I was training. I had no money, but my parents gave me that $300 for the initial investment. And we've made it work just because I think I did kind of cheat a little bit at the beginning. I didn't, I lied about the weights of the blender bombs. So when I was shipping them, I didn't have to pay the whole shipping label, which wasn't good.

Love a little lie. Love a little lie. But listen, let me, let me, I think this is relevant to talk about for young people. So we have a lot of young people that listen, like what was the biggest downside at the time of your life? If this failed, it didn't fail, but like what you already were. I was already poor. I'm continuing being poor. Yeah.

Like I think people get it fucked up where they are conservative in the beginning of their life and then take risks later. Like I was much more reckless when I was younger, still a little bit reckless. But now like, as I have a kid and married and like have responsibilities to other people, it's not that I'm risk averse now because I'm still taking a lot of risks, but not as much as I did when I was younger. And I feel like when I was young, like what's the worst that happens is you just are still young and broke and like doing the same thing. That's the time to do it. People fuck up and they say, wait until you're older to do it. And that's why you see people have midlife crises and have all these problems. Like the time to take the risk is when

you have nothing to lose. And I didn't have these huge expectations. I just thought I was going to be rolling them in my kitchen, you know, making a couple hundred bucks every week, selling to people. And then I started like sharing testimonials, reposting testimonials that people would text me. And it, it blew up. It just blew up. I started getting all these online orders. And Naomi, you posted about your weight loss and it just continued blowing up. And we had a 64% like customer retention rate. So 64% of the people who are buying the product were coming back and it's still that high. Like our retention rate is so fricking high. What were some of the testimonials that people are saying? Weight loss, craving control, knowing that they're getting

nutrients for their kids or people like who are on medication and they, they aren't hungry. So then they know that they need to get these certain nutrients every day so then they have it they have the blender bombs i'm gonna give one to zaza yeah absolutely yeah i'm going to do it let's see what she says i'm just kidding she can't talk but it's okay she can we communicate with our eyes yeah i bet you do i would love to communicate with zaza's eyes to be honest i think everyone can agree that zaza's got the best eyes michael thinks they're his eyes. No, I know. I know they're not mine. I know for sure.

What does he say when he looks at her? He's like, oh, there's me. He's like, oh, there I am. There you are, you beautiful me. I love that. I want to thank me. And I want to thank me. Have you ever seen that Snoop Dogg video where he's like, I want to thank me for being me.

I want to thank me for putting in all this hard work. He's like, I want to thank me for never giving in and just being me all the time it's so funny i mean it's that texas to you guys it's like one of them he was like getting an acceptance speech and literally the entire time all he did was thank himself it was it was all time he reminds me of you was he being serious well i think he was joking but i think he was also being serious like that's confusing okay na, tell us how you decided to start your company. And talk to me also about, did you use the show to like content market? Like, did you know that you were going on the show to launch a business? Or did you not even think that far and you just decided when you were on the show to

launch it? Yeah, no. So I definitely didn't think that far because I didn't think it would be a very interesting facet of my life like to film. You know, we ended up filming at the office a few times but that was never really the idea how it actually happened was you know this is back in the day where people use like to know it a lot and things like that and somebody I think it was Landon actually that got me in touch with them and so made an account and all that and every time I would post something, it would like do really well. And I'm like, wow, people are really buying this stuff. So that's, that's so weird. I would

have never expected that. And so, and that was working. And then after I got my nose done, I was like pretty high on painkillers just in New York for two weeks, bored out of my mind. And I was looking at like to know it stuff. I'm like, God, I wish I could just directly sell these instead of making these small commissions and just only stuff, it was supposed to just be stuff I wanted to wear, I would just buy it. And I work with, we created Labey with my friend Ginny, who was already in retail, and she's been amazing. And she's the one that's working at the office right now while I'm here. Yeah, so it started out as that. And it was, we were buying not huge quantities, you know, just like kind of normal and started out profitable.

But then when we started figuring out the model of let's sell really high quantities at a really low margin. So I know 100%, even if we buy from the same vendor or some other store, 100% of the time our price will be lower because no one else in the industry really, it's not worth your time to make such a low profit. But if you're selling, you know, 2000 of something or more, then it makes sense. And so it's all these small little wins that we started having.

And yeah, now it's just like works on its own. It's been awesome. What has been like the main piece that everyone's obsessed with? We have like a couple a couple major sellers where we just buy out the manufacturer um one it's that scallop dress you know it's this black and white dress oh i love that dress yeah yeah we've we've sold so much you would like it you know what you influenced me to buy i just remembered this or i would have told you last night

and i don't even know if you remember this you were at Patricia's party it was like the last episode I think of the season and you were wearing these pearl earrings with fluff in the front of them oh my I got so much shit for those from my friends they're like you're wearing furry ears like they're so cute they're so chic and you were wearing an outfit that I think was from your company. Yeah, we sold a lot of that one, too. It was called the Galaxy Jumpsuit. It was black and white, right? It was white, and it had, like, tan lace or something.

I don't remember exactly. You looked so, so major. I just remembered that. Shit, I should have worn the earrings last night to dinner and not show them. I can't believe you bought the furry earrings. Oh, my God. I saw them. I, like, zoomed in.

I'm like, because you know I love the detail. No, I, like, zoomed in. I'm like, cause you know, I love the detail. I like zoomed in. I was like, Oh my God, what are those? They're so cute. So anyone making fun of you, they, I thought they were adorable and I bought them. She's done good. She's like really learned. Um, velocity is the key, but also when you post pictures of yourself, like you've got this amazing physique, you're very efficient. People love seeing pictures of you and you in the clothes. This is what kills me about a lot of clothing companies. The main picture is of the clothing item on a rack or just it's not on a human. You've got to put the clothing item on a human to be able to sell it. Everyone wants to know how it flows. They want to know how it fits. It's so important. Even these big retailers, like I don't know if it's Shopbop

or Revolver, these big retailers don't have that as her main picture I think that's why something navy does so well with her clothing line is you can all you always can see it on her so you can see what what you're dealing with yeah it totally makes people more inclined to buy speaking of kind of that and going with that theme what is you guys's social media strategies when it comes to business. Yeah, so I don't even run LaBey's social anymore because I don't think that I have a good enough eye. I think I'm too old. I don't know. But so we have a girl, our marketing girl, Maddie.

She runs it and she, you know, every week gets her theme down. She's very cohesive with what she posts and consistency is really the best advice i mean just like with you and with you just staying consistent and putting out honest content everything after that is just have you ever read the book aesthetic intelligence i have it it's just um actually no thomas recommended it to me recommend it to me too yeah lauren you i gave it to you to read it so lauren has it right now i already was reading it butt naked when i was but no i heard it i heard it phenomenal. I have not yet read it.

Yeah, I need to. Because Julia was saying that that's one of the reasons why she started Gal Meets Glam and did it the way that she did was because of that book. But I think for social media, for me, what I found most successful is always answering who, what, when, where, why, and how, you know, probably within three different posts, so that it's not a super long caption. But you always want to answer your customer's questions before they have to ask them and wait on you to reply. That way, you know, everyone wants to buy something all of a sudden. Like when you saw Naomi wear those fluffy earrings, you knew where to buy them, you bought them. But if you didn't know where to buy them,

you wouldn't have bought them probably. Hold on. I actually didn't know where to buy the fluffy earrings. I don't think I told. Gower the internet. It took like an hour. Okay. Well, besides that, yeah, the who, what, when, where, why, how to me is really important. I get so mad when someone tells me something and I can't find the answer to it. Like, I don't want to have to ask someone to answer it for me. Just tell me before. I think also there's something like going off what you're saying, but also maybe a little

bit disagreeing. I think there also is something though about having someone discover it on their own true does that make sense like instead of you telling them about it they actually go and find it seek it out and find like how i found these earrings on this random site like i felt like i did it so i think like if you mix the two together like the mystery with what you're saying who who, what, where, and mix it together, people are intrigued. It's like a combination of not shoving something down someone's throat,

but also making it where they have to do a little bit of their own research. I think that's where people get in trouble selling online is they make it too selly. Yeah, that's influencer culture. Like people are just used to getting stuff shoved down their throats constantly. And now I feel like, I mean, as a company,

and I mean, Labey spends $0 marketing, but I think for other companies, it's necessary to have an ad budget. But I would not, I mean, the few times we have tried influencer marketing with people that had a ton of followers, and Helen is the same way, it didn't work because these people are overselling. And so people stop listening after a while.

And it's not, so if it's not something you're really using, wearing, eating every day, people can tell, you know, they know, and they're not going to buy it. It's not or you might have like a few stragglers, but it's not a long term strategy at all. It like has to be seamlessly integrated into your life. And like you just said, you actually have to be using it. And if you're not using it, just don't even talk about it. Yeah. People can smell it. A hundred percent. And I really think that you should now go source those pearl fluffy earrings and sell them.

You know what? Where did you find them? Because I got them from a Chinese website for like 50 cents. Exactly where I found them, a Chinese website. I'm dying. Mine were $11.99, I think, though. Oh, that sucks. I think mine were like a dollar or less.

I found them on a Chinese website. I googled like pearls, I think, though. Oh, that sucks. I think mine were like a dollar or less. I found them on a Chinese website. I googled like Pearl's Big Stud Furry Earrings. Normally, big blonde hair. Do you guys know that site? Yeah. It's like Sources Reality TV People's Clothing has it, but she didn't have it up there. Okay. So.

I'm learning so much. I feel like I'm getting cultured. So what are you going to do next with the show? Are you done with it? Is it over? There's no like going back in any capacity? Yeah, I don't think so. I think that, you know, I'm so thankful for what the show gave me because it does open

a lot of doors and there are a lot of advantages. But then it comes a time where when the good doesn't outweigh the bad anymore, where it's time to walk away. And I, personally, I feel like I walked away at the time that was right for me. And that's how Cam and Chelsea feel too. And, you know, other people that aren't ready to, to walk away and want to keep doing it, that's, that's their prerogative. And I'm very supportive of that. I still love most of the people, you know, on there. Who do you not love? I mean, I feel kind of bad saying, but I think that I can say I have a strained relationship with Catherine because I

struggle with her filming strategy, I guess. But everyone else, I mean, you know, I love Whitney. I love Pat. I even, I get along fine with Craig and Shep. I saw him just the other day, you know, so I have a relationship with pretty much everybody except for Catherine, I would say. Will Shep get married? No. Never. Why?

I really don't think so. Never. I don't know. I just don't think it's for him. That's okay, though. Guess what? Why do so many people care if he gets married? I don't.

I'm just asking because I feel like a lot of people have that question. I actually don't give a shit if he never gets married. In fact, I hope he doesn't get married. If someone doesn't want to get married, if I wasn't married to you, I wouldn't be married. Well, that's true. I mean, I've set the bar so high for you, Lauren. You can't. I get that.

I get that. No, I just wouldn't want to be married. Like, I don't know. No, I mean, yeah, I get it. But like so many people are so concerned with that guy getting married. Like sometimes, you know, sometimes people just aren't meant for marriage. I think people want to fix things. People want to make the impossible possible.

But maybe it's not, maybe it's not broken. Like maybe his way is like fine. It's like, why do you have to do what everyone else wants you to do? I do wonder about some of the guys, like I wonder what the long-term strategy, sometimes I watch those guys, unless I don't know them.

So who knows, I'm gonna get mad, but they're probably gonna listen to this anyway. But like, I wonder like what the strategy is. Cause like, I think there is something to be said about leaving a party early, any any party like you never want to be the last person at the bar or the last person at the parties there's something good to be said about jumping off the ship before it crashes like yeah yeah and you've done it in a way where you have a long-term strategy where you've built a business and a following and a platform that can

be sustainable it's like for some people not just for southern charm but for other shows you see these guys like and girls you're like what the hell's the long-term strategy here? The strategy is there is no strategy for most people. And that's why you do hear about so many reality stars when all of a sudden, I mean, if the show gets canceled, that's the network's decision. That's just because- And that's what I hate. Yeah. We were talking about this last night, kind of cancel culture and how you want to be able to build something that can't be taken away from you and the rug can't be ripped out from under you overnight. struggling with their identity because they identified so much of their self-worth with a show and getting this kind of fake attention from these fans that then, you know, they think really care about them, but all of a sudden just move on to the next thing because that's how it

works, you know? So yeah, the strategy is there is no strategy for some people. But then, you know, I think like Patricia has her caftans and I think Craig's doing well with his pillows and Cameron is in the process of writing a book, you know, and she would be fine either way, but Chelsea bought her own salon and she's working on her own haircare line and stuff. There's a lot going on. There's just some people, you know, don't feel the need right then. And they don't really have the vision to be like, I got to figure something out for when this is over. Cause this, it will end. You know what it also applies to, and I keep saying this on this podcast is like, if you're like, say an influencer or creator, that's so reliant on like Facebook or Instagram or YouTube, same thing can happen. It is with reality stars. Sometimes when you don't

have a strategy, a bit astronaut syndrome, it is, it's like, it's like going viral as an influencer, you go viral. And then what happens when you go to 2 million followers and then you come down to earth and you get depressed because you're not on that high anymore. People should study what happened to actors and actresses in the 60s, 70s, and models, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and see like there's a very small percentage

that actually stretches through the decades and stays successful. I mean, you keep hearing about them. so you just think it's for everybody but for every like one you know brad pitt or leonardo dicaprio or you know jennifer anderson or something like that there's you know thousands of people that started and had a little bit of steam and then they're just gone you don't hear about them ever again i think the same you'll see the same thing happen with reality television stars with influencers with like anybody that's great like you have to be able to you have to focus on a long-term strategy that builds some protection

around and builds a platform that people can't take away from you. Exactly. And, and also laying down the proper foundation where, you know, you, you do keep no matter how attention, how much attention, whatever show you're on gets or whatever you're doing gets, you need to keep nurturing those relationships that you've had before. So, you know, your old friends and make the effort to text them back, make the effort to go see them because they're the ones that are going to still be there for you instead of all these people that are just kind of like these leeches, you know? And I was telling Helen the other day, that's something I'm struggling with now because people that I used to think I was a good judge of character. And there are a few people in my

life where I realized maybe they were elite, Maybe they weren't. I'm not sure. And so that can be kind of hard. And I'm sure that happens to a lot of people that, you know. Do you think like when you quit the show, you had some people that were hanging around thinking maybe they were going to get on the show and then you're off and now those people bail on you or like they're not around anymore? Is that what you're referencing here? Kind of. Yeah. But in Charleston, you know, nobody cares about the show like nobody and so and i'm like don't not really no it's all people i mean we forget really about the show until you go to an airport and stuff and then people start coming up to you and you're like oh shit yeah okay but in charleston people are like

yeah whatever because you you know them all you know so like oh that's just chep that's just so and so it doesn't matter i didn't watch it till you were on it. Thanks, Helen. No, I really didn't. I did not even like strike my mind. I don't want to spend time watching the show. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You and Patricia, though, have been masterminds

with what you guys have done. Like Patricia to do that caftan line is so genius how she's content marketing. Like she wears a caftan. You know it. It's a trademark like she's right she wears a caftan like you you know it like it's a trademark she's with her martini yeah i think she should come out with like a whole martini shaker situation i think she should too she she really has such a specific style and she lives eats and breeds it you know that is her she is not pretending anything like that she has her

egg coddler with her newspaper that was one of the more fun interviews we've done when we went over there and like. She's so entertaining. How beautiful is her house? It's beautiful. And honestly, she's an extremely intelligent woman, right? And I think like, you know, obviously that's seen on the show, but like, there's obviously a lot of strategy that's gone into not just what she's doing now, but throughout her entire life, her and Whitney.

First of all, have you guys read her book? I actually haven't. And I need to. So good. She taught me what pot't. And I need to. So good. She taught me what potpourri I need to be having. I have her orange bitters potpourri in my house. She talked about sheets. She talked about etiquette tips.

Are you a wifey now? I'm like, you know. We're getting there. Coasters that you should have. Her book is very, very thoughtful and well-written. I can see you being like her in a few years. I have a question. I want to know about something that rhymes with Ramos Radinal.

Did I say it wrong? He just had another baby. Is he off the show? Yeah. Were you happy when he was off the show? Yeah. Yeah. Well, just because, you know.

What a wild character though for television. He truly was reality TV gold. I mean, people like him don't exist. Yeah. That was, that was wild. That's what got me into the show. That's what got him in. I was like, okay, another, and then I saw that guy.

I was like, what the fuck's going on here? Yeah. He's crazy. I'm like scared when I see him in person walk around Charleston and run the other way. Why? I don't know. I just am like scared. So you like see these people walking around Charleston. It's a small town, huh? Oh yeah. All the time. Is he like getting a blender bomb smoothie? Absolutely not.

What if he walked in and tried to order? I would walk out. You would walk out? Uh-huh. T-Rab's not allowed to have blender bombs? No, I mean he can if he orders them online. There's a map of Charleston and it's called like like the t-rav ban zone where it's like all these restaurants are highlighted in red where he's been banned and he's not allowed to go because he got too drunk yeah or because he's done something or offended someone or done because something some incident has happened and so these restaurants have been like okay we're gonna just make a map to show where he's not allowed. His friend JD is a little excited too, huh? I hate that guy. That's a tough crew.

Yeah, he's scary. I don't even know if they're still. How many times have we been walking down the street and, oh, there's Thomas Rallimanel fighting someone. There he is yelling at some girl. He's just angry all the time. What's wild is some of the behavior that is allowed. If people were behaving like that in L.A would it just wouldn't happen not that la is this like golden place like i mean people are doing other things in la they're like pretending to

eat pasta i don't plan on being here for too long but you know and there's other wacky things but i just feel like some of the behavior that these guys get away with in the south like it just you couldn't get away with it why is that we're ending We're ending that, though. Why do we let them get away with it? Yeah, that's not, they really don't get away with it anymore. Again, like, so many, even restaurants, like, companies have been together to be like, we don't let these pieces of shit in here anymore. And, I mean, I haven't seen or heard anything about JD in a couple years. I don't even know where he is, and I don't care to. Yeah, I forgot about him. Yeah.

I mean, he, you know, Thomas got accused of some sexual harassment stuff and then jd also did and so when we when we were filming like i don't know a few years ago and i said something to jd because i was really close to his wife we already knew like we had heard rumors that all this stuff had happened and so but we couldn't really say it on the show because you know it shouldn't have been allowed to fly before but now i think you can't cheat in 2020 without getting caught if you're going to cheat assume you're going to get caught yeah period so like that's that's the bottom line if you want to cheat go cheat but you're going to get caught oh i mean and girls look out for each other so much like when i i was out of town pretty recently and Matul, two of his best girlfriends who I love were out with him in Charleston. And they were like all but assaulted by this group

of girls, these little 21, 22 year old girls that went up to them. They're like, where's Naomi? And Matul was like, these are just my friends. Like she's out of town. They're like, well, they're whores. Where's Naomi? And they sent me DMs on Instagram telling me and Matul was like, you know, telling me, this just happened. I'm really scared. These fans like really have your back. I'm just kind of concerned.

Well, I like, I think, you know, Tell the New York story. I don't, I'll tell you in a minute. I don't like that there's like, listen, we give up some privacies with social and everything, but I also think it's a good thing because there's a lot of bad behavior that people, men and women have been guilty of

that just can't fly anymore. Like you can't, like people are going to call you out. You're not going to hide. I don't get these guys that slide into DMs and think that like nobody's ever going to see them or like send pics. So, you know, what I love about it is you could just fully like be yourself.

And as long as it's, I mean, throw it all out there. And as long as you're like being a good person, it's fine. But if you're a shitty person and you're trying to hide it, like it will come out. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but it's going to come out. Two things about Charleston that i think should be noted one it is the only city that i've ever come across where girls are so extremely supportive of each

other that it's it's makes me like want to cry thinking about how supportive girls are of each other there and then two the lack of capable men in that city is astonishing it's true we should ship weston out there yes we got a line of girls waiting. Weston should go out there. Isn't there a lot more women over there than men? Yeah, it's like six to one is the ratio. I mean, so they say. We feel very blessed to have met awesome guys.

Yeah. Well, actually, it's not as slow as I thought it was. On that note. Yeah, you and Weston should go out there and see what happens okay so if it doesn't work out that's like that's a designated area for me can you tell them your new york story yeah but i want to tell more than i do this thing where we like do this it's not like a fantasy it's just like a fucked up thing we talked about where we say like if we ever split ways we try to carve out areas on the map like i have no you can't have all france you can have areas i have i showed i

showed you i don't give a shit i have but France. See, we do these carve-outs. We're like, okay, you can go there and I can go here. I'll take Aspen. No, you can't take all the good places. You have to have some shitty places too. You can go to Oregon. You can have Tucson. Not that I don't love Oregon.

You don't need to DM me, but he can have Oregon. You can have Tucson. There's some beautiful places in Oregon. Bend, Oregon. But you can have Tucson. I guess you can have Antarctica. What happened in New York? That's so generous of you. Oh what happened oh no i mean same type of thing with your with your boyfriend it was like i was sitting in this i was actually with weston and we're sitting and i was like hey there's i was telling lauren like

there's these people i feel like they're staring at us and there's no no no no no you text me you go we're at the bar no i and these girls are staring at us they're staring at me you were weston no that makes you sound hitting on him no No, that makes you sound... He thinks they're hitting on him. Go on. That makes you sound like... No, it was just weird. Like they were blatantly staring and I was like, this is weird. So I talked to Lauren about it,

but it turns out that they were staring, but they were reporting to Lauren. They were like, okay, I see him here. That's beautiful. He's here. He's with his guy friend. Don't worry, he's not doing anything. And I was like, okay, can't mess around.

No one was looking at you for any other reason other than to tell me. So don't get any ideas. I literally text you that it was happening. So it's not like I was like sneaking around. Okay. What are some productivity hacks that you guys do? Do you have any hacks?

Like, do you listen to a podcast while you fold the laundry? What a good transition, Lauren. Well, I want to know productivity hacks. We've had enough of you. Do you know anything about human design? Okay. I love human design. Think about it like the Enneagram.

But the Enneagram is more personality right yeah so human design is i would say about productivity and about how you work best and it's super woo woo but we call this helens woo woo 20 percent woo woo 80 you know i'll read studies and make sure it's it's legit but you you it's a website called jovianarchive.org or.com and you enter your date of birth the city you were born in the time you were born and it puts you into like these five categories and I am a projector and so I'm most productive when I only work three or four hours a day whereas Naomi's a generator and majority of the people in the world like 70% of the population is a generator you can either be a manifesting generator or a regular generator. And they're the type of people who have, I would say, more energy.

And whether it's with work or life, but you're always doing something. You're always cleaning. You're always doing your hair or you're always cooking. Always doing my hair. You're always doing something. And I could not be happier just sitting here watching like a bird fly out the window and working my ass off for like three or four hours a day. Where do you go and take this test? Is it on a site?

It's online. We can do it for sure. Yeah, I want to know what both of you guys are. But I love it. That would be really interesting. There's four types, right? I think someone's talked about this on the show before, in the past and not in detail.

You're right. Garrett McNamara's wife. Yes, that's exactly right. I love it. I swear by it. So I use it for all my employees. I have them all do the tests and that way I see like how productive they are if they would rather work from home or if they need to be like surrounded

by people a couple of days a week and it's worked flawlessly. And so for the first part, when I first started getting into it, I had Scott, I did the test for Scott because we worked together too and I got his birthday wrong. So I was like treating him like a generator, like having these high expectations and he just could never do it. But once I started realizing he was a projector like me, my whole mindset changed about his productivity. What are the four again? There's the generator. A man-passing generator, reflector, which is only 1% of the population. And Naomi's best friend's reflector was really exciting. What's reflector again? What is the characteristics? So they have to make decisions, big decisions decisions like every new moon cycle so i make

decisions instantly and naomi has to sleep on it i'm i have to sleep on it just one night though i have to sleep on it yeah one night and then i make the decision but this is like buying a house like i need to sleep on it one night it's not like random little decisions yeah you know decisions i know like immediately and then there's projector yeah's it. Is there anything else I'm forgetting? I can't wait to see what you are. Yeah. And so what's crazy is when I was in- What's the site where you do it? I'm going to have Taylor pull it up because I just want to look at it. Taylor- Jovianarchive.org or it's jovianarchive.com and it's with a J. But when I was in Big Sur in November, I walked into this little smoothie cafe. I was there by

myself doing some work and Scott was driving the coast and in walks Emma Watson. And there's no one else in there but Emma Watson, her hairstylist, and, like, two other people. And they come and they sit. There's probably eight tables in there. And they come and they sit at my table. So, obviously, I'm eavesdropping on their conversation. And they were talking about something super woo-woo. So I interjected.

I was like, have you guys heard of human design? And they were like, we actually just left Sedona last week. We did a week-long seminar, like a something in. Yeah, that's it. So you would click on get your free chart. They had just done, like, a week-long seminar like a something in yeah that's it so you would click on get your free chart they'd just done like a week-long thing on human design and she's a projector too like me oh we're gonna do this we're gonna do it the test how long does it take to do a 10 seconds do you know what time of day you're born let's do it i don't know what time of day i was born well that's important you gotta ask your mom do you know lauren i know what time

i was born all right let's do it for lauren get your free chart and then you have to do it in military time so you can just write what time were you born i was born at 3 19 a.m okay so it's 3 19 so name and then all right taylor run through this so it's her name obviously don't need to tell you that did you see how quick this person is? What's going on back there? Are you using your fist to bang the keys? Is this your birthday in here? You're feeling a little fisty.

So I'll walk you through it. You can write Lauren as the name. It's L-A-U-R-Y. Is the computer frozen? What's going on? What's the day? I don't know. You're on name.

Oh, look at what we're seeing on the screen there, Taylor. Is this thing not working? Look at it. We can't even see anything. Oh, I don't know why it's not working. Oh, look at what we're seeing on the screen though, Taylor. Is this thing not working? Look at it. We can't even see anything. Oh, I don't know why it's not working. Oh, there we go. Okay. Let's not write my last name.

That's like, we don't need to do that. Don't you need it? No. Let's not give the deep web. You can do a nickname. Why don't you write my social? So what's your birthday? 5-21-86.

So you would put 21 for the day. I didn't know this was going to take like, like dripping as slow as molasses i just thought this was like a quick thing taylor what are you doing back there i'm typing don't look at that i think it's lagging and then close out close out pornhub in the corner yeah what do you do are you ruining all the servers here beating your meat no i'm on hour and zero three for the hour oh you're on hour zero 03? Yep. 03. In what minute? On 19.

19. And then country, you're going to type in USA. Where were you born? USA, Denver. So type in USA dash Colorado, and it'll pop up. And for the city, just write Denver. Yeah. Okay.

Here it goes. That's all it is. Wait, what do you think? Can you predict? Projector. Is that the most common? Or a generator, but I don't know. I think. Reflector, dude.

I'm going to freak out. You're the 1%. You're the 1%. What does that mean? Of the world. That is so exciting. Of course. Can we read about it?

Okay. This makes me so happy. You have no idea. Who else is a reflector that we know? Your friend. Which one? Of course, you're in the 1%, Lauren, of the reflectors. Oh, Jamie. Yeah. Oh, so you're a weirdo kind of yeah you can take on anyone else's energy so you're oh i'm like this

is me this everything's white everything's clear so i have like five or six filled in but yours is um empty so who you're with you'll take on the energy that's why you have to be super super protective that's why you get so exhausted god, super protective. That's why you get so exhausted. God, that literally is me. Oh, you get so tired. Yes. That's so interesting. I do take on people's energy.

But you can never compare yourself to anyone else. Like that's one really important thing is you can't compare your morning routine. What are we reading here though? I can't tell what I'm reading here. I know because I have to explain it to you. Yeah, she has to explain it. Yeah. So let's see. Scroll up a little bit. Well, this is much more complicated than I thought. Scroll here. I know because I have to explain it to you. Yeah, she has to explain it. Yeah. So let's see.

Scroll up a little bit. Well, this is much more complicated than I thought. Scroll up. I know. I'll send you some of the Instagram things about it. Enough about me. What do you think about me? Wait a whole lunar cycle.

So you got to wait 28 days. Stop looking at me. Look at me. Your profile is 6'3", which is what my profile is. I don't even remember. But there's probably like nine different profiles. And your disappointment. So mine is frustration. And I think Naomi's is anger. So when things aren't going right,

I get super frustrated. Naomi will get angry and yours is disappointment. Great. I'm not mad at you. We'll talk about this later. Michael's ecstatic. Can I text you a picture of Michael's later tonight? Yeah. This makes me so happy why you're one percent that's so cool it's very rare for anyone in their whole life to meet a reflector really yeah and so here's what's crazy is i've maybe asked 15 people to ever take this test and three of them have been reflectors i bet you zaz is a reflector i told michael the other day i said i just want to tell you about this baby i said this baby is very sensitive to energy he doesn't believe me

i'm like i'm telling you her whole life she's going to have to be protective of her energy because i watch her and people drain her energy they take her energy yeah does it like explain so much about you oh i i mean i don't know if this is is is this like real? Is this true? I think it is. I think it's 100% real, but that's me going with my- Even if it's not, she's going to run with it now for the rest of her life. She's 1% of whatever. I'm exhausted, okay? I've been reflecting. I think it's cool because I haven't asked that many people to take the test, but it's

like a certain person who I'm like, I know this will resonate with them. And for three out of the 15 to be reflectors when 1% of the population is a reflector, that's pretty cool to me. Sorry, Michael. DBJ, motherfucker. Well, I don't know if you need to, I mean, maybe it's a good thing for me. I don't know. What is your best piece of advice that each of you can leave our audience with? Like something that you look to a lot, like maybe a mantra or just maybe something your dad taught you. What's your best piece life is a game god that's so much better than what i was gonna say you got is that is that yours because i

feel like i don't know i have a couple oh but i can't choose okay well why she's thinking of her couple can you tell us why life is a game because just give us a little background on that yeah so we talked about this last night everybody but when i was in in Costa Rica, I think it's two years ago, it was my first time ever going out of the country. I was with Scott and we did ayahuasca. So it was an awesome ceremony. We had the shaman, we had the whole works. It probably took about 10 hours. And before I went to Costa Rica, I was talking to a girl who I was working with as my life coach. And I told her I was really interested in ayahuasca. I had never really thought about before I talked about it. I actually heard about it first on y'all's podcast. She was like, okay, well, you know, if you're going to do ayahuasca, Costa Rica is a great place to do it. I wouldn't recommend doing it in America. She

didn't know anybody. I'm sure there's some great people, but she didn't know anybody. And so when we get, we were staying at, this starts with an H. It's in Nosara, Costa Rica. It was amazing, but it was off season. There weren't that many people there. And we met these two girls and they had just done ayahuasca night before. I don't know how it came up, but it came up probably because I knew I was like 20% woo woo. And I was like, I'm going to do it. And so I PayPal this woman, you know, $600. And Scott and I drove up that night with these two girls to a shaman's house, 20 minutes in the mountains. And I walked in and it was this beautiful room. There was 15

or 20 different mattresses laying. And this shaman kind of went through this whole two-hour ceremony to get us in the right headspace to do the ayahuasca. She was very, very particular about the details, about what she was saying, all the instruments she was playing. Scott said he was freaked out, but I loved every second of it. So this shaman goes around, gives everyone the first dose of ayahuasca, and she asks if everyone's, like, happy, if they're feeling it. I couldn't feel it.

So I ended up getting four rounds of ayahuasca, which is crazy. And I was expecting to have this huge moment where like, you know, I spoke to one of my grandparents or I just figured out my life's purpose or anything like that. But I think I was looking too hard for something. What I got out of it and what kept coming to me over and over again during the 10 hours was that life is just a game. So I'd take that and I'd run with it. I just don't, we don't take anything too seriously. It's not worth it. It's not worth the cortisol. Life is a game. Life is just a game. Naomi, what's yours? God, I mean, following that up is hard. But I think, I think the number one thing I've learned in the last probably two years or since I've been working on my own is that whatever

you, whatever you want out of your life and whatever it is that you want to project of yourself, even if you don't believe it yet, but you just kind of fake it till you make it, people will project it back to you and then you'll start believing it. And so I think it's so important, even if you don't feel confident or you don't truly believe in yourself yet, to at least convince yourself or pretend at first. And then eventually that muscle will start to believe that what you're doing is important. And then eventually that muscle will start to believe that, you know, what you're doing is important. And you then all of a sudden you've created your own kind of destiny or your own job and your own life in realizing that you almost, you know,

you came this close to waiting on other people to do it for you when really all you had to do is do it yourself. I want everyone to do everything for me but you know what i mean like if that isn't the theme of this podcast create your own future all these people we've had on like you guys you you've totally fit with the theme of creating your own future you guys have both done that in a beautiful way so if you where can everyone find you separately pimp yourself out tell us like the websites like if you want to do any discounts go ahead whatever you want to do yeah you can go first oh yeah so my like insta my insta is naomi olindo there's an e at the end of naomi the website for from my company is shop labay.com it's shop l-a-b-e-y-e a lot of people pronounce it lab I or labia like whichever works for you it's fine and then we'll do a discount we'll do let's I don't know 25% off could skinny perfect yeah and

your insta handle is at shop labay too yes you gotta look at her instagram because the clothes look really good on her yeah the instagram is so good you guys you can see the clothes in action yeah and then my personal is at Hush Up and Hustle. And then the business is at Blender Bombs. And the website's BlenderBombs.com. And same thing, we can do 20% off Code Skinny. Well, yours is 25 minus 20. That's amazing.

If I lived in Charleston, I feel like we would hang out. Well, we'll come back. Next time we come back, we got to do proper. I might move. You guys have to come stay with us. I'm a reflector. Well, last time, you know, we just kind of hit all the bars and ran around

and did a bunch of debaucherous things. Didn't know I was pregnant. We are neighbors. We live right next to your other friends. And so we all live in the same area. So you really guys should come. It's so fun. Not in the summer.

It's too hot. But the fall is good. What's the best time to come? Like October, September, October? Come in October. Yeah. You know, we're going to be over that way during that time. We don't need your whole life story. Well, you know we're gonna be over that way during that

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