The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - Suebelle Robbins On Unshakeable Confidence, How To Stand Out, Timeless Style, & Owning Every Room You Enter

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

#858: Join us as we sit down with Suebelle Robbins – a beloved style icon & social media personality, also known as Suebelle from Palm Beach. Celebrated for her timeless fashion, elegant beauty tips..., & daily outfit inspiration! As a standout in Palm Beach’s vibrant social scene, Suebelle gets real about classic fashion that never goes out of style, the beauty of confidence through personal style, her take on relationships, & what life is really like behind the curated charm of Palm Beach culture.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Suebelle Robbins click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194.   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential For a better choice and peace of mind in your home, shop The Skinny Confidential Non-Toxic Toilet Paper at http://shopskinnyconfidential.com.    This episode is sponsored by Smart Mouth Never have bad breath again! Find SmartMouth at Walgreens, Walmart, and Amazon or visit http://smartmouth.com/skinny to snag a special discount on your next SmartMouth purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Astral Tequila House Marg Summer is here. Time to stock up! Go to http://astraltequila.com to find Astral near you - and don’t forget the limes! Please Enjoy Responsibly. Do not forward to anyone under 21. ASTRAL Tequila. 40% Alc/Vol. Diageo, New York, NY.   This episode is sponsored by Bobbie  Bobbie is offering an additional 10% off on your purchase with the code TSC. Visit http://hibobbie.com to find the Bobbie formula that fits your journey.   This episode is sponsored by Taylor Farms To learn more visit http://TaylorFarms.com.   This episode is sponsored by DailyLook For 50% off your order, head to http://DailyLook.com and use code SKINNY.   Produced by Dear Media  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Where did you get this personality? Because the internet has fallen in love with your personality. When you look way back on your childhood, was it something that you got from your parents? Did you come out this way? From both my parents, my father was in sales and we moved around a lot because he kept getting better territories and you know, salesman of the year. Sadly, he was killed by a drunk driver when he was 33 in New Brunsfels. We lived in San Antonio at the time. And then my mother was from Rhode Island, very New England, but hysterical, you know, very sarcastic wit, which I always say I haven't had an original thought in
Starting point is 00:01:07 my head in about 50 years because I retain, if something's funny, I use it. As you should. I collect comedian like tips and tricks and sentences all the time. I have it in my notes app. Did you know that, Michael? I do. I do know that. I came up with this phrase.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Don't CFC me. What does that mean? Copy fucking cat. CFC. No, no, no. I'm going to say that to my husband because guess what he does? No, no, no. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He takes my jokes. He rebrands them as his own and then presents them like they're his idea. I don't think that's true. It's true. I think that's very poor. Yeah. Don't let her fool you. You just know it for five minutes.
Starting point is 00:01:56 No, trust me. I got her number. Trust me, yeah, yeah, trust me. He completely rebrands them like his their own, but the fucked up part is he thinks it's actually truly his idea. I would say that I refine, Lauren has a difficulty with the delivery
Starting point is 00:02:09 because she jumps to the punchline before she tells the story. And I'm like, so. I'm quicker and wittier, so I jump a little quicker. Whatever you gotta. Keep up. Sometimes you can say,
Starting point is 00:02:21 well, I was thinking about that and you just stole it out of my brain. That's a good way to get around being a CFCer. So have you always had a point of view like you had since you were a little girl? Oh, definitely. What were you like? Very outgoing, loved moving around. Like I would do something like chewing gum. And the teacher would say,
Starting point is 00:02:46 well, you can't do that. And I said, Oh, I didn't know that. Of course, I knew you couldn't chew gum. So I was always, you know, playing playing like the dumb bunny, but I was really very bright. Yeah, well, I had a sister 15 months younger and she hated moving. She would always get in trouble because she'd call people from where we had lived before. And not me. I mean, I was a new girl in town and played that to the hilt. And this is a little bit like that. You know, you've got a new audience and strangers come up and I used to keep
Starting point is 00:03:27 a little journal if somebody would give me a big compliment and I'd write it in the journal and if I was a little down or depressed I'd get that little journal out and I'll say, oh the nice lady on the bus told me I was pretty. Now this is like I get swarmed. I mean I feel like the Beatles in the 60s. It's really funny. So do you still have the journal where you keep all the compliments from social media and in person? I didn't bring it with me but I do have it. You know what you should do? You guys should do a Sue Bell compliment journal and everyone should be able to buy this very Palm Beach-esque journal where they can all write compliments that people give them. I feel like that would sell out. It
Starting point is 00:04:13 could have your logo on it and everything. Well we're doing an autobiography. Oh I'm sorry it's a memoir. That seems like for people when they've died, this is... Listen, there's people in their early 30s that write memoirs and I always find that strange. Really? Yeah. You've said that you don't want to write any kind of biography or anything until you're older.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah. Don't you think it's strange to write a memoir at 30 years old? Unless you know you're about to kick the bucket. Yeah, right. Three weeks to live. No, I enjoy talking about different parts of what I've done because that's who you are, all the experiences. I taught first grade in a Catholic school in Boston and I made $80 a week. So I became a Playboy bunny at night. So both had great experiences. Wait, wait, wait, you were a first grade teacher and a Playboy bunny at night?
Starting point is 00:05:15 That's amazing. I don't know if you can get away with that anymore. Well, nobody knew. We kept everything quiet. What if you were like teaching someone's son and then you saw their dad at night? Oh no, this was in a suburb way far from from Boston. And what was it like being at the were you at the Playboy Club?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. What was it like? Tell us every detail of that. Well, I was from Texas. OK. And I'd never seen. I mean, there were black bunnies and Chinese bunnies and like truck driver bunnies that would like take their uniform and pull it up. And there was, it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I only did it maybe a year and a half, but I had fun. Carson really likes the truck driver bunnies over there. That was his thing. Wait, so are the bunnies like going on dates with the guys in the club? Oh, no, that was a no-no. And naive me, whether it was anybody I would have gone out with, but I found out a lot of the bunnies were having affairs with patrons, key holders. And I only worked on the cocktail band part.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You could go upstairs and make a lot of money and work in the dining room, but the bunnies had to have about five plates on their arms, you know, steaks to deliver them, and they made a ton of money, but I was scared to have all the plates on my arm, so I just stayed in the rock and roll part. Did you meet Hugh Hefner? No, in Boston the only way they would let them have a club was to make it a corporation. And so, but he did give us Christmas gifts. He gave me some electric rollers by I thought you were going to say something else electric.
Starting point is 00:07:00 No, but at Christmas I was a door bunny and they gave me a green satin bunny suit with marabou fur on it. It was so beautiful. And everybody thought they were giving you tips, but it went into, unless somebody put a $20 bill in your hand, it all went to the house. So people thought they were tipping you and you never saw anything. But it was fun, it was a good experience.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And when I was there, I met a politician who was a state rep and I thought he was like a Kennedy because he talked like a Kennedy and he had Kennedy hair and Brooks Brothers suits and he brought me to Palm Beach. That's how I was first. And we went to the Colony Hotel after dinner. All the old ladies were beautiful.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Nobody was fat. And I said, I'm going to live here someday. So okay, you are known as a Palm Beach icon. There's obviously now been a television show about Palm Beach. For the person that's never been to Palm Beach and doesn't get what Palm Beach is, how would you describe Palm Beach? Explain it to a blind kindergartener. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Palm Beach is a beautiful, manicured, little five streets, beautiful houses, everything's pink and green, golf courses all over, beautiful hotels like the Breakers and the Colony Hotel, and there are three bridges, the Northern Bridge, the Southern Bridge, and the Middle Bridge, and they all, like the Southern Bridge is Mar-a-Largo, where the Trump estate is. And I live in the Middle Bridge, which is right, they call it Midtown. And the Northern Bridge is where the best of, we have this shopping center and it used to just be like then St. Ambrose came the restaurant and Palm Beach Girl was there and now you can barely get in there there was an old
Starting point is 00:09:12 theater where they used to have broad off-broadway shows in the 50s and 60s and it was just terrible they couldn't nobody could do anything with it. So they put all this money and they're redoing the theater. So you have the beautiful shopping center that's got Gucci, it's got everybody you can imagine, Hermes, and the theater's being done. I have a friend, just local people, self-made,
Starting point is 00:09:43 and her husband's doing all the windows I mean I had four windows put in my condo and it was fifty thousand so you can imagine How well they're going to be doing doing the windows on this theater if everything there's just like so expensive Because it's Palm Beach. Well a smoothie at the airport here is $12 and it's only like 10 in Palm Beach. So it's not, it's not crazy. Austin's having a boom of its own. When you went to Palm Beach for the first time, did you know I'm living here? Oh yes.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So immediately it was like, it was synergistic and you loved it right away and it was, it had the appeal back then. It's beautiful. It was how I felt when I went to Madison Avenue or the Plaza Hotel for the first time. You felt at home. This is this is where I'm going to be. So when you meet the politician, did you date the politician? Oh yes.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I stopped being a bunny. It was sort of sad because his mother hated me on sight. I don't know why, but he was the only boy. He was Jewish, but his sisters all married non-Jewish, so that wasn't an issue. I think she just, for some reason, she didn't like me. I'll give you an example. I stayed friends with his sister and when I got married his sister Jane said mommy, Sue Bell got married and his mother said Sue Bell who? Oh, I have something to confess. What? I never understood that kind of mother-in-law but now that I have a son I don't know I might be that kind of mother-in-law, but now that I have a son, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I might be that kind of mother-in-law. No, you won't. I whisper in his ear every night, he's living with his mom for the rest of his life. Oh my God, we're gonna raise a little baby veal if we're not careful. It's really hard when you have a little cute ham of a son and then they have to like go date someone
Starting point is 00:11:43 I can't even imagine. Maybe she was just obsessed with her son like I am. We're not raising Oedipus over here. No he is Oedipus. My son is Oedipus. No but even what you can't do you can't say don't date him you gotta just let him work it out. I know I gotta let him work it out. That'll make him go more. At what point did you meet the love of your life who was your husband? Oh I've had a couple loves of my life. Okay I love that. Tell us about all of them.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I always say your your heart is like a hotel and it has a lot of rooms and has a couple suites and no the Boston State, he was really special. I got in the travel business. I needed a summer job for the teaching. And I got in the travel business and I took big groups to Switzerland and Puerto Rico and France. And then I got promoted where I lived in the country. And I was living in Honolulu at the Ilocay Hotel.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I saw this guy on the balcony. He was in the room right next to mine. And I said, hello. And I always said I was Romeo and he was Juliet, because he was with the newspaper. It was called a joint venture. His company USA Today and the Honolulu paper had a joint venture. So he was in town for that. And his company was based in Rochester, New York, which is very pretty, but a little provincial. Not Palm Beach. I became like a little movie star there. I mean, they were used to, you know, Rochester was
Starting point is 00:13:34 Kodak and, you know, small town. And it was fun. I had great beautiful houses, had great friends. I still took a few trips with groups since I'd been in that business. I loved being in Rochester. And he had two little girls, so I became a stepmother. That was fun. So I decided that's enough. I don't need to have any kids of my own. So I've been the stepmother. I've loved it. But then I've also had the stepmother blues, you know, when you're feeling like the nanny. That's not great. The stepmother blues.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yes. So you've, I've never been a stepmother. It makes you feel like you're a nanny? Like you're a nanny and the ex-wife is out in Rio de Janeiro having a big time. And you're- That's specific. You're the nanny.
Starting point is 00:14:26 But anyway, we had a very friendly divorce. Then I moved back to Boston where I had lived and met the real love of my life who was in the financial business. He was an institutional broker. He didn't sell stocks to people, he sold them to institutions. Just had a great time.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Boston was wonderful. We got the place in Newport. You know when he said, I made too much money and I don't have any deductions? Got the place in Palm Beach. Another wonderful thing about Palm Beach besides you have the ocean on one side, and then you have the inlet waterway. And along the waterway is a beautiful bike path, walking path, lake trail, they call it.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And it's just a wonderful place to be. Sadly, he had a stroke and was paralyzed. So we were married 38 years. Wow. And 34 were fabulous. But the last four years was very sad for him. It was sad because he had a stroke in November and in December he was supposed to get a knee replacement because he was a big tennis player. But everybody loved him and he made me laugh all the time. He danced in the morning and he sang to me and I CFC his jokes all the time
Starting point is 00:15:55 because he was just hilarious. So my trick for marriage is he has to love you just a little bit more than you love him. Agreed. And he has to make you laugh. little bit more than you love him. Agreed. And he has to make you laugh. How you doing with that, Michael? I think she laughs pretty good. I do laugh.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's it. I probably love her a little bit more, if I'm being honest. Yeah. Yeah. Since I was 12, I was chasing her. Oh, I love that. She took a while to say that. You loved me a lot more than I loved you, and now it's, I'm a little, I went up a little
Starting point is 00:16:23 bit. She is a pain in the ass ass though, I gotta be honest. She wants what she wants. You want someone that's black and white or color? We do laugh a lot together. That's for sure. We do laugh a lot. You gotta be in on the joke. You know, my hobby is introducing people. I have 11 marriages and I started in college. You have, you have broken where I've brokered.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You've brokered the deals, okay. That's her hobby. Isn't that great? I love it. Some died, some got divorced, some are miserable. But I don't think you fit in there. But there's nothing like that great feeling when you've made two people happy.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And marriage is, and I'm realizing this, like the older I get, if it's not right for me, it's wrong. Yeah. It's gotta be right. There's a real finesse to it. If you're miserable in the marriage what's the point yeah and it is supposedly forever
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm gonna be honest I don't think I could do forever if it was if it was I couldn't do it no no no I know some people like will stick it through for the kids I'm not a stick I never really got the logic of sticking it through for the kids because the kids are around an environment. If you're miserable in that environment, I'm happy. Like what's the, I don't think that's good. Yeah, they can pick up on.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I think one of the reasons I decided not to have kids is because I grew up with a rich Protestant father's family and the mother's Catholic side. And they argued about religion all the time. It's sad because he was only 33 and they were starting to work it out when he was killed. But I remember as being very young. Yeah, how old were you when that happened? 13.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Wow, that's very traumatic. Well, it gets worse because the next year, my mother married his best friend, who I adored. He'd signed my autograph book when I was 11, and he was so handsome. He'd never been married. The next year, he married my mother, and she was so gaga over him. We used to laugh, catch them kissing a little bit. The next year I was 15 and our house burned down. Our collie died. We had a big, beautiful collie.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And so those two things happening were really depressing. But I when I was 16, I got a job working in a men's store, which, don't you you know I love that. It had a little corner of villager clothes, which was a preppy line of women's clothes. And I loved it. Work became my favorite thing. SmartMouth is the only mouthwash scientifically proven to eliminate and prevent bad breath for 24 hours with just two rinses. Why I personally think this is cool is it's a
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Starting point is 00:22:26 Lauren and I sometimes from time to time like to host these dinner parties and events at our house. We recently just had a party and I think one of the best things you can do if you're going to host a dinner party or even have a get together at your house is what we like to do is have people come over and have these welcome drinks and then kind of this kind of set cocktail menu throughout the night. And the last one we did, we used a straw tequila and we had the Anejo and we're making tequila old-fashioned. A lot of people think that you can only do this with whiskey, but actually tequila, specifically Anejo, makes a phenomenal old-fashioned with a little bit of chocolate
Starting point is 00:23:01 mole bitters and maybe an orange rind. And like I said, you have a tequila old-fashioned that's incredible. And then my personal favorite go-to margarita, which I call the Michael Perfect Margarita, even though it's not my recipe and it's just the classic tequila recipe, which is three-two-one. It's three parts tequila, two parts, like a Cointreau, not triple sec Cointreau, and then some fresh lime juice. And we had a craft cocktail bartender make these up and hand them out at the party. And it just completely changes the atmosphere. It allows you as the host to enjoy your home and your guests. And it allows the guests to experience a really good cocktail on entry and make
Starting point is 00:23:35 it feel like you've put some extra effort into it as it relates to a straw. Like I said, my favorite is the Reposado. I think it comes with a little bit of a different flavor profile. Many people use the Blanco when it comes to margaritas, which is completely fine. But I think the Reposado adds a little bit of like maybe a more spicy floral taste, which I personally like. And then I think if you're going to try that tequila old-fashioned, which is essentially just an old-fashioned with the tequila base, the Anejo. And then maybe if you were going to do a sipping cocktail or something on the rocks, you do the Blanco
Starting point is 00:24:08 or maybe a Paloma. But for me, a straw has been a huge standout in the tequila space because it's high quality and it's so important to get a high quality tequila if you're going to drink tequila because many that have poor experiences with tequila are usually drinking a tequila of lesser quality and that's definitely not going to give you a good time. So you want to go with something like Astral because it is affordable, it's high quality and the flavor profiles are incredible and it's going to leave you feeling good in the morning. And Astral has quickly become my go-to for tequila margaritas at home. It's an affordable, great tasting tequila that mixes beautifully into
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Starting point is 00:25:14 and you're so resilient and you're like a spitfire and you have this point of view. And it's inspiring for me to like, I love watching all your stories. It's, you can feel that you've had grit and you can feel that you have depth and different layers that probably comes from when you were little.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Thank you. Yeah. That's a lovely compliment. I mean, you can feel, you can feel when people follow you, there's a real honesty about you and it's attractive. I get a wonderful comment, compliment that I'm authentic and I think that what you just gave me is a definition of authenticity. I just want to know if you're gonna write my compliment in your compliment book. Yes,
Starting point is 00:25:56 yes and you'll sign it. I want to be featured in the compliment book. And you can give me some photos to put in there. I have all different kinds of ones, especially at this stage of pregnancy. You're beautiful. Ali McGraw. Has anybody ever told you that? No one's ever told me that. Okay, well. And I just read her autobiography. That's a good compliment.
Starting point is 00:26:17 It's a very nice compliment. Thank you. So when you were in Palm Beach after being on social media and being this public figure and you're walking around and you're going to St. Ambrose, do people come up to you all the time? Yes. So you're like, you're literally a celebrity there. I have this neighbor and I just moved in about a year ago. We got it all fixed up. She's from North Carolina. She's a big decorator.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And she went, Suveil! Is that Suveil? And I get that a lot. Not as dramatic as Francie, but yeah. In restaurants and people. And can I have a picture? Because my sister loves you. They never say they love you, but they have a brother or a sister, you know, my aunt. We got that today at the airport. It's always fun. And about 15 years ago, I slipped at a car wash and I broke my ankle.
Starting point is 00:27:25 My, yeah. Wrist. Wrist, not ankle. And that's why I always wear a bracelet. And that night, I was very depressed and we were at the beach club and George Hamilton was in the buffet line and I've always, I was so crazy about him.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I said, oh, I voted for you on Dancing with the Stars, which is really a jerky thing. I mean, I never did that before, but. And he made a movie about Hank Williams, a country western singer. And so I was, plus he was gorgeous. And I voted for you. And then he goes, oh, hi Ashley, how are you? It's George and
Starting point is 00:28:07 ever said I mean Ever since then I have always been so sweet to anybody that recognizes me because so he was sweet or he was not He was totally blew me off and went to my friend big mistake George Feeling sad totally blew me off and went to my friend. Big mistake George Hamilton. Broken wrist, feeling sad. Oh big mistake. And I voted Dancing with the Stars. And she voted for you George Hamilton. That is a big mistake. I hope he's listening. When he listens to this show, which she's a regular listener, he'll be not gonna like this story. Now I'm friends with his son who goes out with one of my friends. Yeah and you're the mayor of Palm Beach, so I wouldn't fuck around with you. What do you think that the mistake that women my age
Starting point is 00:28:51 are making right now when it comes to dating, meaning probably from 20 to 40, what do you see as a mistake? Well, you know what the big mistake is? Coming off needy. You know? I think you might be... I think...this is my spirit animal. I literally knew she was going to say that.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Talk more about being needy. You know, he didn't call me. Do you think I should call him back? Is it okay to text? You know, just chill. The therapist told me, you are enough. And that's what I think women should do. Is it okay to text and you know, just chill, you know The therapist told me you are enough and that's what I think women should keep
Starting point is 00:29:31 Telling themselves or get a needlepoint pillow with you are enough That would sell out if you made that pillow, you know, I also think And I feel like you know this, you're the queen of this probably, men wanna hunt, and if they wanna call you and they wanna text you, they will pick up the phone and do it. So instead of, what's the point of waiting around?
Starting point is 00:29:54 Well, Palm Beach is a little difficult. You know, men die before women, sadly. And so there are some few men around town and they're they're creepy. Oh, they are. And and they're treated like Brad Pitt because there are there very few cool guys around. I tell everybody that I think they should go on social media. I mean, you can have a cup of coffee with anybody. Don't waste your time on a dinner date, you know, because you know 15 minutes into it
Starting point is 00:30:27 if they're a jerk or not. I agree. So I agree that the dinner dates too long. Like go to the coffee first, because you can tell quickly you don't have to spend a whole night at dinner. Absolutely. Absolutely. I've heard some women say that they won't go and I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I haven't been single for a long time. But like, I have young I work with a lot of women have sisters. I've heard a lot of them say like, they won't go out with a guy if he won't take them to dinner. Oh, that's a big mistake. If I was single, I would not want to go to dinner. That's, it's too long in the tooth.
Starting point is 00:30:54 No. I want a, I can know, I'll know right away, like you said, I think a cocktail is appropriate, but I- Absolutely. I love a hard out. That's my favorite thing, a hard out. What's that? A hard out is like I can meet you at six, but I have a hard out at six. Forty five. I have to leave at six. Forty five.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Absolutely. That's great. That's I have optionality. If I like you, I'll stay on the date. But if I don't, I have a hard out. And I can't go a minute over six. Forty five, because that hard out is just so hard. It sounded a little sassual what you were saying. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:31:33 It always, it always. What mistakes do you think men are making right now? Thinking they're too cool. Yeah. You know, just not being honest. Like being cheaty? Yeah. Yeah, that's not being honest. Yeah, like- Like being cheaty? Yeah, yeah, that's not cool.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's not cool. There's a lot of cheating going on, huh? I guess there is, but I always say, until you've walked in somebody's shoes, you shouldn't judge. Yeah, that's a good one. I'm not saying have dates with married guys is cool, but you know, there are situations where divorce is expensive yeah you know and and you don't know what's going on
Starting point is 00:32:13 and I don't think it's easy I think you two are blessed I was blessed you know it really is if you find the right person and treasure them. I think it's probably very expensive in Palm Beach to get divorced. Probably. Yeah, so maybe there are situationships that work. Yeah, I have a friend, she died, she was so funny, she'd say, don't say somebody's wealthy, say they're rich.
Starting point is 00:32:47 She'd tell me all this sort of gossipy stuff, and she'd say, just don't tell them that I told you. She had an affair with this man, this was in Southampton. They would go to cocktail parties together, everybody knew about it, and then her husband dated you know it was in the 60s so I don't know you know you everyone's different that until you've walked in somebody's shoes I love that you know it's empathy speaking of parties
Starting point is 00:33:16 I hear about these parties in Palm Beach what's the wildest party you've ever been to in Palm Beach what are the parties in Palm Beach tell us about that What are the parties in Palm Beach? Tell us about that. Well, I do know this girl that's like a billionaire and every year she has a big party at the Everglades Club. And she must have like 200 people. It's just over the top. This club has gorgeous flowers, the food. One year it was, we all wore turbans. I don't know. She had everybody wear these beautiful silk turbans. I've held on to my turban in case I ever need it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 But there, I don't know, when I lived in Rochester in the 80s and early 90s, it was sort of a dinner party kind of thing. And I don't know if it's COVID or what, but one thing they do, there's a place called the Colony Club. I did do a meet and greet there that was really fun. And on Sunday night, they have bingo and Monday night, they have trivia. Michael loves trivia. Yeah. That to me is a great place to go.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Oh, and on Thursday night, they have gay night. So, you know, it's really fun. And it's a hotel that's been there since 1926, I think. They used to have a framed picture, a frame check that the Duke of Windsor wrote for one hundred and fifty dollars. He had stayed there for a week. Is there a lot of celebrities and royalty that come through Palm Beach? Well, we have Stelester Stallone, and I sort of, what do you call it, when you track somebody? Stalk them? when you track somebody. Yeah, I sort of stalked this girl. She was in the fruits and I stalked her over
Starting point is 00:35:08 to the baloney area and I said, I just have to tell you, you are so beautiful. Because people will say that to me and it's a nice thing to do and it was to Esther Stallone's wife. And she said, oh, thank you. And then I saw her again and she said, oh yes, we've met before. So that was sort of sweet.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But yeah, because of the horseback thing, the Wellington is a big horse area. It's about 30 minutes outside of Palm Beach and it's the horse capital of the world, which I didn't really know about. So we get like Mayor Bloomberg's daughter and Bruce Springsteen's kid. It's kind of like becoming a place too, I feel like for younger people too. Oh, well, because of COVID, people left New York, they rented in Palm Beach, they fell
Starting point is 00:36:03 in love with it, And then they bought. I think that's cool though. It's just a position of both. Well Mar-a-Lago is down there now too. So it's becoming like the second capital of the country because of everything that's going on with the administration. A lot of people are down there. And a lot of people are buying homes. The real estate market has, well, my little penthouse story.
Starting point is 00:36:29 A lot of people are wanting to live. It's the quality of life. The bad thing that's happened is it's so hard to find a good school because everybody has kids and there aren't that many schools. Aren't they working on bringing more more schools down there now though? I thought I read an article that- A couple, like Bill Koch has a school.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And let me see. Well, they have the day school, which is a darling little school. Everybody that grew up in Palm Beach went to the day school. But there's only, you know, they only have so many places for the kids. There's a big public school, but that's become an issue. Of course, I don't have kids, thank God, but people have said, we have a friend that has a facial place and she wants her daughter to go
Starting point is 00:37:22 to this particular school, Catholic school, and just couldn't get in. You know, it was too crowded. What do you think is the best tips for when it comes to presenting yourself as a woman? You talked about the low fur. What are your, like, beauty secrets and tips? Look, you're very best at all times. Oh, my gosh, you and Michael should hang out. That's Michael's tip too.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Wear makeup. Okay? Okay. I love these tips. Lose the black. If you're going to the gym, which is great, you should stay thin or as thin as you can, go home and take a shower and put on a pretty outfit.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Oh, I have to take a shower after the gym? Yeah, sorry. It's a lot of work, Sue Bell. Glad, I'm gonna record this and play it. I'm gonna leave it for her in the gym. Yeah, sorry work Sue Bell Glad I'm gonna record this and play it. I'm gonna leave it for a lot of work Come on, you want me to take a shower after I go to the gym Oh, you would not believe how awful some of these women look in the grocery store Our grocery store is like a cocktail party. You see everybody, you know, and I see women looking just like dogs. Really. And they have great jewelry and great clothes,
Starting point is 00:38:33 but they only wear them to these stupid luncheons. The luncheons are, will kill you. You have to be there like at 11.30. Everybody's overdressed. They really just want money. There's always, you know, walking around, getting more money, more money. And they go on until about three in the afternoon. The day is just shot. And you're drinking probably, so you're like exhausted by three. Yeah. And all you want to do is take a nap but
Starting point is 00:39:05 it's so boring I eat a whole bread basket by myself because it's like so but that's why do you why do you go because they asked me sometimes you have and I have some wonderful people are so sweet it's like they're happy to see you but what you're saying is that the supermarket is an opportunity to dress up, to like maybe do a little schmoozy schmooze. Yeah, there's a cute, well, he's getting older, but who isn't, plastic surgeon. And every time I see him he said You look so beautiful and it's like oh, you know
Starting point is 00:39:54 guys would say that they wouldn't say that if you go in with your sneakers and your Black Lulu's on so you're you don't like the color blue lemon. You don't like the color black to wear No, I noticed you're in Navy yeah Yeah I love Navy, love chocolate, chocolate and pale blue, but if you're working out black is cool but don't spend the day in black. Is it because you feel like it looks like you're like working at like like why don't you like the color black? I've heard this from a lot of people. It's sort of drab. It's not flattering on everybody. I mean, when I lived in New York, I lived on,
Starting point is 00:40:30 oh, I didn't tell you, happiest time in my life. We bought a penthouse, not a penthouse, an apartment at 891 Park Avenue between 78 and 79. Oh, I like that area. Oh, I loved it. And Richard would stay in Palm Beach to play tennis and I would go back to New York and take acting lessons. But I could never remember my lines.
Starting point is 00:40:54 That's why this pod stuff is okay. I can just talk. But yeah, in New York, you wear a lot of black. So you're just fatigued of black. Yeah, it's tiring. And I always tell people, OK, if you want to wear white with black, don't wear a white shirt and black pants because they'll think you're a caterer. Is that what you're wearing? No chocolate.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Oh, he's wearing chocolate. He wins. That's my boy. That's your boy. You're wearing chocolate. You're black, Rana. She's pregnant. Yeah, what am I? I can't wear white right now. No. No, I can't wear white, guys. I'll look like the marshmallow.
Starting point is 00:41:36 They stop at your face. Really. Okay, just let's stop right here. Yeah. Gorgeous. Okay. Teeth. Thank you. You did well, Michael. Yep. Well, I will say I'm happy. You tractor, right? I tracked it for a long time. I was like, God, I did a long time, Cheval. Long time. Well, that's what it's all about. Yeah, that is what it's all about. How did you keep it spicy in a marriage that
Starting point is 00:42:02 was, you said 38 years? Oh gosh. Well, we had a rule for a while. We had our 10 second kiss because I just like buzz them. I thought you were going to say 10 seconds, something else. 10 second what? I thought he was going to say something else, a 10 second lay. Gone, but not forgotten, right? A 10 second kiss, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Well that means you have to keep kissing for 10 seconds. Because you would just go quick and then. Yeah, and I would say, hand me that. He'd say, please is a very nice word. And I'd say, well I was gonna say thank. And I'd say, well, I was gonna say thank you, but you know, like having treating them like you would treat somebody you were trying to impress. Oh, that's a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yeah, I know it is, but it's so as being happy. But I know, you know what? I'm gonna insist we do a 10 second kiss. I'm gonna insist that you use basic manners then. Okay, that's the deal. We need to see, that's marriage. It's the deal. Right? I'm gonna insist that you take off your blouse. Well, that's more of a demand.
Starting point is 00:43:16 So what else do you do to keep it spicy? What are the things you guys did together? Oh, in the morning on Fridays, we would go to Newport for the weekend. And he would start dancing and he called it the new pee dance because Newport. But we always took two cars. And people would say, you take two cars to Newport, it's only 86 miles away. But we didn't get along in the car. You know? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is amazing.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Why, what would happen in the car? You guys are just so- You spent two cars? Yeah, we had to do two cars. This is interesting, because we get to spend fights sometimes in the cars too. Go ahead. Well, our first Christmas, and I got angry because he spent too much money.
Starting point is 00:44:04 He got from F.O. Schwartz, one of those little kiddies steering wheels, you know? And that was supposed to be funny, but I didn't think it was funny. Oh, he put it in the passenger seat for you. No, he gave it to me as a Christmas gift. You know, they give them to children. Why? Because of the way I drove. I still have... Oh, when we would get in the car
Starting point is 00:44:26 This was funny. He would go crash position Why because you he thought you were a bad driver yeah wait, but I have a solve for this what I don't drive He drives. I don't pump gas And I'll tell you why why am I married if I don't have him to drive me around and pump the gas? That needs to be a caveat of the marriage, I think. Don't you like to drive your own style? What if he drives too slow? No, I'm not- I'm like the three little bears. I'm not too slow, not too fast.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You are just right. Yeah, you are just right. Oh, then that's- I don't want to drive. Did you want to drive? She goes too slow. She puts someone that likes to be chauffeured around. No, I like to. You like to drive and get where I'm going. And I don't I don't want to slow down at a yellow light.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I want to go through it. And I would say, hurry up, hurry up. So you guys would fight over how to drive? Yeah, so we took head separate cars. And that kept the marriage nice and alive. You wanna know what a precious guy he was? What? Well, there was a black Lexus in our back driveway
Starting point is 00:45:40 at this condo we lived in. And every time I would go out, I'd say, oh, I love that car. It was just so good looking. And a few years later, I was, it was my birthday, and we were going out the front door where we had a parking space, and somebody was in my space. And I said, oh, god damn it, I'm going to go talk to the manager. This is ridiculous. And he said, wait, I think there's a card on the steering wheel.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And he had bought me a black Lexus. I know thoughtful. Yeah, very, very thoughtful. Yes. What were his hobbies? Did he like to read? You said you mentioned tennis. What are the things you like tennis and and and and tennis and friends. Golf and tennis and friends.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And that's what you need. Friends are where it's at. Did you guys, were you guys out in Palm Beach together all the time? Yeah, we had, I don't cook. It's never been my thing. So we'd go out to dinner like six or seven nights a week. And I would cook.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I said once, I said said this isn't very good is it and he said no it's not you know what it could get worse I poisoned my husband she cooked me turkey one time and it didn't cook the turkey and literally poisoned me because you know you have to cook can't be perfect in every area pink and well I can't be perfect in every single area so we'll just go out to dinner instead I have the capacity. You know, what's cool is a crock pot Crock pot is cool. Yeah crock pot Sour cream becomes stroganoff wine becomes be Borg and So did he get to see your success as this social media sensation?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yes, yes. I posted pictures, a couple pictures of us and read him the comments. He just loved it. You know what I love? I love a crunch. But I also love a meatball. When my meatball comes together with a crunch, that's a dream. So I've been using the Taylor Farms Chop Salad Kit, the Mediterranean Crunch to mix in my venison meatball. I do a meatball every day and I like to change it up and switch it up.
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Starting point is 00:53:06 and this girl popped out and said, what are you wearing? And it was like, oh, and we got 16,000 hits like overnight. And then she asked me to do it alone. And I did and that did very well. It's called the class of Palm Beach and this girl's been very successful and she'll just pop up and talk to people and say what are you wearing? And she likes to ask about your fragrance. It's very interesting. But I... I was... I just fell into a vat of butter, because I've had a couple people say, I think you should do this,
Starting point is 00:53:56 and I think you've got a quality that people want. Did Paul Mroyel interview you about that show? Because the show seems like it was pretty on the nose. Well, I know that the creator follows me. I've never really had any contact with them. They should put you on that show. That would be so amazing. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Are they going to do another season? I think they're doing it a second time. Did you watch the whole thing? I watched the whole thing. I loved it. And it really, I think it captured an essence and they should put you on that show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Can you make a call? Let's get it going. I'm looking into the camera. We'll get it out on the airwaves. Yeah, put it out in the ether. I'm mad for Carol Burnett. We were in Boston at a Broadway show. You know, they come out in Boston before they go to New York.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And she was in the ladies room and I told her, I was a big fan and she was so lovely. And I loved her on that show. She was great. The show was so good. I did a, Palm Royale was Palm Beach, 1969. Palm Royale was Palm Beach 1969. They asked me to do a Palm Beach 2024. We did a tour of Worth Avenue,
Starting point is 00:55:12 which is our shopping, our Madison Avenue. Then we went to the Brazilian Court, really fancy restaurant. Then we went to the Four Arts, which is a library. They have ballet and opera. It's just wonderful. The society of the Four Arts. I'd like to go to a ballet or an opera if you're wondering, Michael. I'd like to go
Starting point is 00:55:35 to a ballet and get like- You can go- For Christmas, give her tickets. It's good over there, like around November, December, January. Yeah. That's like- Yeah. When should we come to Bobby? Oh, the season starts, Thanksgiving, but really Christmas. What's the best time to come have a martini lunch with you? Oh, anytime.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Oh, okay, we're in. I haven't traveled for four years. I didn't leave, but I used to always go Memorial Day. I would come leave Palm Beach and go to New York. And then at Christmas, well, it's fun to go at Thanksgiving because they have a walk down Worth Avenue and they light this beautiful Christmas tree right in the middle of the street and it's called the Worth Avenue stroll and
Starting point is 00:56:31 Then you know everybody's back in town at Christmas. It's really it's fun. I Have some rapid-fire questions for you hit me. Do you get hit on by younger men? Oh, yes Yes, I can see that I can see that court you it's the confidence I among other things not really but a girl knows you know member Frank Sinatra said it shouldn't be a staring contest I love that line you should got you should you have to say something back I'm aware what nail polish colors should girls be wearing? I saw you had a point of view on this on your story.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Very clear. My nails apart. Come on. They're very. They're a little too vampy. Huh? No, they're very girly. Very like a softer.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Normally my nails are like yours. So what's the color we should be wearing? I think this is ballet slipper but it might even be lighter than that. Ballet slipper. Mm-hmm. What about perfume? What's the fragrance? Oh I love Frederick Moll. He has carnal flower. Have you ever heard Frederick Moll? Yes I have. Okay I love all of this fragrance. Okay I'm gonna look into the one you recommend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 He'll go crazy. What's the brand that you think is a great brand for women? Oh, I love, well, Ralph ever since I was 21. Can never go wrong with Ralph. Ralph is classic. J. Crew I love. McLaughlin, J.
Starting point is 00:58:03 McLaughlin. Okay. Let me see. I always say I'm very town and country with a few buttons on button. That's the most amazing description. You like that, huh? I modeled for Talbot's, they're not really fashion forward, but their quality is wonderful and yeah. What do you think that the older generation is getting wrong? Uh, they're not, they're not staying cute. They're just letting it go. Yeah. Okay. And what about the
Starting point is 00:58:40 younger generation? You mentioned a couple of things, but give us a couple more. Too short, too low. Girls in their 30s seem to really like what I say and do. They're a little tired of really, really short and really, really low and sloppy. So you don't like slutty outfits is what you're saying no I think white jeans in a white Brooks Brother shirt with a good looking belt and six yeah I agree I think the slutty look is not it's not it it's not for a reason but also leave a little to the imagination, right? Yeah, but you can unbutton it.
Starting point is 00:59:26 But unbutton it like town and country. What's one thing everyone needs to stop doing immediately? Chewing gum. Oh. What's your go-to cocktail? Let me see. I really, really, I stopped drinking years ago. Okay, well then that's not a good question.
Starting point is 00:59:46 So now Pellegrino, sparkling Pellegrino. I did a video, I think it got like two million hits. I was opening my kitchen door and I said, Yarlsburg cheese and Pellegrino orange. Pellegrino sent me four cases of Pellegrino orange. You know what Pellegrino, I think she should be on the next billboard and you should do a whole campaign with her. No those Pellegrino fruit ones are really wonderful with club soda. What's with the Jarlsberg cheese? Do we need to get that? We just
Starting point is 01:00:19 love it. You have like the chunk of cheese you chop it up. I love Costco. Okay. Do you have Costco around here? We love Costco. My dad, I think, is the mayor of Costco. He might be the only person that doesn't get carted at Costco. Well, I do Instacart Costco, so they bring it to your house. Oh, I would do that. And you get a wedge as big as that square for like $12.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And if you go to Stop and Shop shop that much is like $40 so I'm a big Costco fan. Okay, Garlsberg cheese. I didn't know they did Instacart Costco. Do you have to have the card still? Of course. Interesting. What's the most extra thing in your daily routine? Meaning the most extravagant thing you do. Oh I like to put perfume on before I go to bed. Oh. Alone. I went for my-
Starting point is 01:01:10 Michael died. My stepfather's funeral. And my sister and I had to share a room. And I put on perfume. She said, you really are a princess. So I always remember she said that. But it's just part of my, you know, nightly routine. You got to put some perfume on. Last question.
Starting point is 01:01:29 If someone wants to date you, yes, what are your requirements and you can get as detailed as you want? I like tall. Okay. I like hair. I like pretty eyes. I like shiny shoes, not patent leather, but you know, nice shoes. I do not like long pants. I call them deputy dog pants.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Like you mean baggy pants? Like that? Not hemmed? They've not been tailored? Not tailored. I just did a video. We were in New York and they don't wear black shoes anymore in New York. Everybody wears brown shoes. So I had Ali every time we saw brown shoes. I'd say take a picture. You want brown shoes though, right? Yeah I like brown shoes. Okay what else? Tailored classic Brooks Brothers, you know, not Euro, you know. What about personality? Oh, God, yes.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You have to make me laugh. OK. You have to text me a lot. OK. Richard used to leave messages in different accents. You know. I'd like a different accent. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Mix it up. I'm going to get a voice changer. So mix it up. Keep it spicy. Absolutely. I do actually have one more question just to round this out before you go. This is from my friend Mark. Great example of age is just a number.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Advice to people who feel like they missed their calling and fear it's too late. You are enough. It's like life is chapters. Let's make this one your best. Agreed. Okay. And you're doing a fabulous job. Thank you. I mean, you are an icon. I will say the entire office was so excited that you were coming in.
Starting point is 01:03:20 You've got a special sparkle to you. You should be so proud of everything you've created. I will be coming to Palm Beach. Book a trip, Michael. We're coming. We're coming. I've got a guest room. It's twin beds, but that's OK. Just push them together, maybe. Well, yeah. I don't know if I could be that separated.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Be creative. I might have a... We could do a little Lucy and Ricky situation. I like that. That gives me some air, some space. I think in a relationship, you've got to have a little air. You've got to have I think in a relationship you got to have a little air You got to have a little space. You got to have a little quiet time. Yeah, I dated a guy and he said oh We always have to be in the same room and I said no, I don't care for that
Starting point is 01:03:58 I mean, I don't care. What did you say to me that day? I was upstairs doing my own thing You're like, oh you've been a little detached from the family. I said well get used to it cuz I didn't say that I he was on his video game and I'm 6,000 years pregnant I need someone to be constantly taking care of my children with me And so I like to throw in a little jab, which is like get your ass downstairs I like it a little subtle. She's learned to miss me a little bit. I have to know We could take a little separation. Separate but equal.
Starting point is 01:04:30 But you better be helping me with the kids. We're going to try the separate car thing because now that you've talked about it. No, I don't like to drive. Have you ever seen that joke on the internet that's like, it's the guy talking to his wife in the car and she says, stop. And he goes, oh, thank God you're in the car. I was planning on smashing into the back of that person. If you weren't here, you guys, you guys are annoying at driving,
Starting point is 01:04:50 but I still don't like to drive. She'll scream stop. And the car is like a football field away. That's how I love New York city. I love the subways. They they're so fast. Yep. That's still the best way to get around.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It's fun. People watching. It's one of my favorite things to do. And I love watching you two. You're adorable and you're interactive and fun. Thank you. I wore chocolate pants today instead of black ones. Yeah, thank God. No, it's an honor to be invited. Come back anytime. Thank you. Where can everyone shop your shoe collaboration? Where can they find you? Pimp yourself out, Sue Bell. Oh, Stubbs and Wooten. It's fabulous. They're, uh, Sue Bell, men and women. They're only $3.25. I have about 50 pairs. I've been buying them for 20 years. The man that started them is Cuban. He's almost royalty, and he was a designer for another company, just went out of my brain.
Starting point is 01:05:47 But they're like, Stubbs and Wooten is like Bergdorf's in New York. It's on Worth Avenue, and they're wonderful. They make a black velvet with a palm tree on it, that's my favorite to wear in New York. So it's like, yes, I'm from Palm Beach. And now you have your own pair. You guys can go shop and where can everyone follow you and buy your memoir? Oh, I'm not sure. I'll let you know.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Just follow me on Instagram. That'd be great. And what's your Instagram? Sue Bell. Sue Bell. Just Sue Bell. And on TikTok, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Suebell.tiktok. We'll link it all out. We'll put it in the notes. Thank you for coming on the show. Well, this has been fun.

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