The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - The Bosstick Travel & Free Time Playbook: How We Recharge, Reset & Get The Most Out Of Life

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

#991: Join Lauryn and Michael Bosstick as they reveal their ultimate travel playbook! In this episode, they break down how to stop escaping your free time and start using it to invest in yourself. Fro...m designing a life that prioritizes intentional rest, to traveling as a family without sacrificing routine, they share the exact systems, planning strategies, personal itineraries, wellness rituals, and non-negotiable habits that keep them productive, connected, and recharged – no matter where they are!    For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Your skincare routine, reimagined. Shop The Skinny Confidential Face Towels today at https://shopskinnyconfidential.com/products/face-towels.   This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to http://armra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 30% off your first subscription order.   This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Get 15% off Branch Basics with the code SKINNY at https://branchbasics.com/SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health Go to http://hiyahealth.com/SKINNY to receive 50% off your first order and get your kids the full-body support they deserve.   This episode is sponsored by Troscriptions There's a completely new way to optimize your health. Give it a try at http://trodaily.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY at checkout for 25% off your first order.   This episode is sponsored by Chilipad by Sleepme Visit http://sleep.me/skinny to get your Chilipad and save up to $255 off a new Chilipad2.0 with code skinny.   This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Sleep cooler this summer with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at http://BollAndBranch.com/skinny with code skinny.   This episode is sponsored by Revolve Shop at http://REVOLVE.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bostics. We are back in the studio. We're doing another solo episode. We're having fun with these solos again, kind of getting back to our roots of the early days. Of course, we're going to continue to have guests and incredible names on. We're getting ready to do a big recording session coming up after the summer. But we're having fun with these because this is how the show started.
Starting point is 00:00:29 It was Lauren and I doing these kind of things, answering questions. We have a lot of questions from you guys. And on this one, we're going to talk about things that we, something that we actually don't talk about a lot, which is how we manage our free time when we're off, when we're not working, when we're taking time to ourselves to recharge. We realize we talk a lot on this show about how to be a high performer,
Starting point is 00:00:50 how to get things done, how to operate businesses, how to be in a relationship. But we're also human beings. We take time off. We go on vacations. We enjoy life. We're not just go, go,
Starting point is 00:00:58 all the time. We take a lot of downtime. So we're going to talk about that and how we enjoy life and how we reset and how we take time for ourselves. Today I was meditating and I was thinking about this episode. And to me, free time is in two buckets. The first bucket for me is that every hour that I'm not working, I feel like I'm either compounding my life or I'm distracting from it.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And so I think about that when it comes to free time. And I try to spend my free time compounding it. The other way I think about free time is that I also need to recharge to do what I do. What do you mean compounding it? Combining what? Meaning like if I'm sitting around during my free time consuming other people's content every single second that I have a day off, that's not doing anything productive. So how I would prefer to spend my free time is reading, walking with my children, with my husband, cleaning. I love cleaning.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Just doing things that I feel like. Come on. Doing things that I feel like move the needle as opposed to just distracting myself. I am different. Okay. I'm either like hiding out alone by myself thinking so intensely that I'm starting to drive myself nuts and why I have to be around by myself is because anyone around me during that time is also being driven nuts. or I'm doing something that is completely mindless and useless, looking at memes, playing video games, reading fiction books, things that I don't where I don't have to think about anything. And I use that as the time to kind of just like give my brain a reset.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And I give myself permission to like not think about anything or any responsibility. It's called being cerebral. No, being cerebral is when I like really am like intensely thinking. again. I'm talking about like being brain dead at times. Like just not doing like playing old video games relaxing, reading fiction books, like not having to think about any of my responsibility. What video games do you play? Um, I was recently playing this new James Bond video game called First Light. I think First Light is that what's called? Look that up Carson. And I was playing Call of Duty. Sometimes I will go and play like Wii games. Zaza's learning how to play Mario Carts and playing that. I like to be like
Starting point is 00:03:22 really, really in it or really, really out of it. I don't like this thing where, like, I have to always be in my head all the time, because that can start to be a lot. I think a lot of people relate, like, you know, you have to be able to switch off. For somebody who's, for some people that are switched on all the time, which I would categorize myself as that, not from an intelligence perspective, just like brain racing all the time. I have to have things that completely switch me off, right? Like, a lot of people really love biographies or business books or self-helps.
Starting point is 00:03:48 When I need to switch off, I'm going to fiction and science fiction and things that I don't, that have nothing to do with what's going on in the world. My video game is what? I have no idea. Come on. What is my video game? Are you? Super Mario.
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, no, no. Like, what is my video game? Like, it's not a video game. It's like my video game is. I don't know. Real housewives. Oh, that's, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Come on. I get it. I get the video game. Got the analogy. Even though housewives is like Tetris. You have to figure out who's on whose side. It's kind of using your brain in a weird way. So, you know, I think because of maybe the content we put out there
Starting point is 00:04:28 and some of the things we talk about on this show, maybe at times it can feel, I would say even, you know, at times overwhelming to some people that are watching because it looks like it's go, go, go, it's nonstop. It's always talking about these things and talking to different people that are doing big things on the show. But Lauren and I have a lot of time that we take for ourselves personally, together with the family. We're really intentional about it. We shut off. We stop working.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And we really go and recharge. We're obviously really into wellness. We've talked about that on the show. We take time to do that. We're in the gym all the time. We're doing saunas and cold plungers and meditation, all sorts of different things. But we're intentional about making sure that we have some semblance of a life outside of our careers. I think, too, we never share our free time because when we have our free time, we're not posting it. So, for instance, when I'm really in my mom bucket, I'm not pulling the phone out in front of my children and showing me, you know, making honey bear toast. Like, I'm not pulling my phone out when I'm making mommy waffles or when I'm doing something with my kids. I don't show my free time really on social media.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And so I thought that this episode could be interesting to some people because we really don't show or talk about what we do when we're off. And we do take time off. No, and if you've made it this far, it's likely because you're here for the right reasons. You find value in the show and in the content and maybe even in some of the things we say. But I'll be honest, a lot of the reason there's been a little bit of a pullback. We used to share a lot more about our personal lives. But when you become a parent and when you've done something front facing for a long time and when you have kids, I think you just become much more protective of the things you care about most in your life,
Starting point is 00:06:17 which is obviously, you know, for the parents out there, your children. and your relationship and, you know, there's sometimes less is more. Not every little thing needs to be seen online, not every little moment of life. All that being said, I understand there's a segment of the audience that would maybe like to see more and hear more, which is why we want to do this. But I think what it is, if I'm just being completely transparent is we're both just really protective of our relationship. We're protective of what we share about our children.
Starting point is 00:06:45 We're protective of how much we share online. we're also protective of how much we're online like we Lauren and I because we create content for a living and put a lot of stuff out there publicly and speak to all these things. We understand what it's like to be out in the public space for too long and for too much. And I'm not going to lie, like there's a lot of benefits, but there's also a lot of liabilities. And so we're conscious of that and we're just careful of how much we're putting out and how much we're constantly online. I think what I've tried to do is I've tried to create almost like a free. time portfolio. What am I doing on my free time? So some is like Michael said, it's tuning out and watching housewives and then other things that I do every single day that you guys know I'm a huge
Starting point is 00:07:28 reader. I love reading. I love spending my free time reading. But I also have free time buckets like recovery or learning or being a mother or a wife or even just things like that are playful, taking a walk, traveling, just being. And I think that if you don't have that space to do those things, personally, I am not as effective if I don't have a foundation of free time. Yeah, it's hard in a society that rewards kind of like hustle and go, go, go. And we're definitely guilty of that at times and we work a lot. I think it's important to remind yourself why you take time off. Like burnout is a real thing. And I think that for the long, I look at this as like sleep.
Starting point is 00:08:14 You know, there was that period of time where people like thought it was cool to not get sleep and just to go, go, go. And then they found out their hormones and their life was being destroyed because they weren't sleeping. So it's like kind of like working against you. We look at the sport of business, our career, our jobs, as the sport we're playing in life, right? Or at least that's how I look at it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I think if you're listening or watching and you look at your career as your sport, then you have to do what any athlete would do, which is you have to have ample recovery time so that you can keep playing the game. And a lot of times people feel guilty if they're not constantly working, constantly hustling. There's, you know, there's a period of time where, you know, it's almost considered a weakness to take time off. I look at it the exact opposite. I need some recovery time. I need to recharge. I need to enjoy the moments of vacation and time with friends to also put in perspective what we're doing this all for in the first place, which is to enjoy life and enjoy the sports you play. If you're constantly just burning yourself down and chasing a number or
Starting point is 00:09:11 chasing a result or chasing a promotion, eventually you're going to get tired of playing that sport, and that's where burnout happens. So I look at time off for anyone, you know, Dear Media, we have an unlimited vacation policy. People use it really responsibly because they understand this concept, where you have to be able to take time for yourself so that you can come back and still be excited about what you're doing. So if you're listening or watching this and you realize maybe you've just been burning the midnight oil and burning on both ends, there's a time and place for that, of course, but you also have to take a step back sometimes to put into perspective. what you're doing and why it's important to do it in the first place, right?
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like you don't want to get to the end of your life with a pile of money and a bunch of work realizing you never enjoyed life. So, Lord and I are really intentional about actually enjoying life. All right. So free time, one of the main things we do is we love to travel. Love to travel. We love to travel. First question. This is all from the audience. How do you choose where we travel and what does it look like doing a Michael Bostic itinerary? because let me tell you guys about this Michael Bostic itinerary. There is no one, and I mean no one, that makes a better itinerary. You have it dialed out.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You have it balanced like a fine wine. Well, let me just say a couple things that I think are applicable to anyone. One, and this is my disclaimer, I overinvest in travel and underinvest in other things. For example, I would wrap. spend less on the place I live, the place I buy, the place I rent. I would probably, I would like to spend less on the cars I drive. I would like to have less fancy things and eat out at, you know, while I'm in the city that I live in, maybe less fancy, so that I can over-invest and travel. So what I realize is somebody who's done okay in my life, talking about financially,
Starting point is 00:11:01 is that the thing that brings me personally the most joy when it comes to using money for something besides business is experiences. Those experiences for me are experiences most tethered to travel and also experience with friends. So what I'm saying is I'm caveating that with I overspend on the travel because that to me brings me the most joy with the money I make that I'm not using for business for business or for future saving. So yeah, when I travel, like I do it in a very particular way. I spend more than maybe what most people would think to to be normal. And by the way, I don't just do that at this stage of my life. I've always done that. When I was 18 years old, I would rather spend on a nice hotel and a nice flight.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Or if I wasn't doing that, I'd prefer to just actually not even go. I think that a lot of times people, they really want to travel and they want to go somewhere, but then they do it on the cheap and then they have the experience and they don't get to enjoy it. Maybe it's stressful. Maybe it's uncomfortable. Maybe the hotel's not great. Maybe the accommodations of travel are not great. And so you've taken this thing that's supposed to be a relaxing and joyful experience and you've maybe spent less on it and then you have a bad experience. For me, it's like you're better off staying home. So that's a mindset shift that I know a lot of people maybe get uncomfortable with. But I've known that since I was, you know, a kid. My dad was like that. I'm like that.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And I think we also have to say the way the way I like to travel is I have realized as I've gotten older that I don't like to go to the hip trendy places any longer. I want to go somewhere where I can disappear with a book on a beach with a margarita. And I realized that when I turned 40, I thought I wanted to have this huge birthday. I was planning it for years. I was going to invite my core 50 people that I absolutely love to Cabo and I was going to have this huge blowout. And every detail was going to be plan, every detail was going to be planned, and I wanted to have the bartender and the itinerary and the merch and like, it was going to be a whole, like a wedding. There's only one thing more delusional than a destination wedding and it's a destination birthday.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So then I really. So thank God we didn't do it. Nobody wants to. I don't agree that nobody wants to go to a destination birthday party. I was going to make it really fun. I know, but thank God we didn't do it. Nobody wants to do it. I woke up in the middle of the night one night and I thought, wait, I don't want to do this.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I don't want to do this. I want to actually go away and disappear and just fully relax my nervous system. And I went and told Michael and Michael was right on it and he ended up finding Turks and Kate goes and doing that whole itinerary. And my birthday ended up being spent on a beach with my dad and my stepmom and my sister and her fiancee and our kids. And it was perfect. So I think that that's where we start when it comes to picking a traveling place now. We try to pay. pick it based off the vibe and the vibe that we want now is more alignment. No, let me tell you my thoughts on trendy places and it's going to be really bratty, but I'm just going to be honest with people.
Starting point is 00:14:13 First, you have to ask yourself if you really actually want to go to these places because you want to go to them or because they're on Instagram and look pretty. And keep in mind, anything you're seeing on Instagram is typically looking better than it actually is. I've been to very, there's a few places I've been that are maybe live up to the hype, but like most places, um, you have to look at and say, is it worth the trend? Second, and this is the brady part. If you're going to go to a trendy place that is popular, um, let's talk about recently like, you know, people, a lot of people are going south of France. A lot of people are going to, are going to, I don't know, here in the States, like, I don't know, my, wherever these places are going. This is the braddy part.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Buckle in. If you're going to go to a trendy place, you have to be even more dialed in and situated than if you weren't because the problem is everybody is competing to go to these places and obviously space is limited. So if you're not fully set up, if you don't know someone, if you don't have an inn, if you don't have the funds, if you don't have a way to get to the place and enjoy it comfortably, then you're going to be constantly stuck in a crowd in lines. And again, to me, that is a don't pass go, don't collect $200, just don't bother going. So the way I think about trendy places is, yeah, they may look good on Instagram and a lot of people, it might be popular to go there. But if you're not fully set up, then the question is, do you really want to go there? I look at the same thing with music festivals. Unless you're going to go to one of these music festivals and you're dialed in and you're organized and you have a streamlined process that you're not going to be sweating and fighting lines, the question is, is it really that glamorous and is it really that worth it?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Music festivals just so are on the same page are my worst nightmare. And I know people love them. And that's great. But I think you really have to get to know yourself and what you like and what you don't like. I find music festivals for me to be the most ungrounding thing ever. A lot of people like them. But what I was going to say about trendy places, like say, here's my answer to that. There's alternative places.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Like say it's a beach town, say it's a mountain town, say it's a city. There's other places in off seasons or at different times or even just different destinations that can offer you the same kinds of experiences, but maybe without those trendy big crowds for maybe a fraction. of the price. And so for me, I always ask myself, like, do I really want to go into that place? Am I really set up? Or am I looking for an experience that is like that in a beautiful place, maybe in an off season or maybe when it's not so trendy? And then I like to book travel there. For example, like if you're going anywhere in Europe in the summer, you know it's massive crowds and that could be fun. But you've got to make sure that you're not fighting those crowds that you
Starting point is 00:16:46 actually have a way to enjoy it. Okay. So what's the travel playbook when it comes to the way you plan an itinerary because I have been with you for a billion years and I have never planned a trip because you enjoy and don't say you don't you enjoy planning the details of the trip everybody in our friend group and including you give us the secrets come on that I enjoy what do I enjoy planning for everyone I enjoy handling finances I enjoy HR I enjoy disciplining people everything you say I enjoy I don't enjoy I just do it because I know no None of you are going to help me do it. None of you are going to help me. You do like planning trips.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I don't buy that for one second. If any of our friends are, you like having it dialed. I don't like planning trips. I don't like showing up to places without a plan and then standing around not knowing what to do or where to go or how to get in. I don't either. That's why I married you. So again, I'll go back to what I said in the beginning. When we take time off, if we're going to spend our hard earned money, if we're going to travel,
Starting point is 00:17:44 if we're ever going to vacation away from our kids, if we're going to go to a far place, then I want to enjoy that place to the. to the greatest extent that I can based on the budget we have. So what's the playbook? How do we do that? Michael Bostic itinerary. So here's the playbook for anyone listening. If you're going to plan a trip, I would actually spend real time planning a trip. I would spend time getting real reservations. I would think down to the logistics. I think about it from the time I get off a plane, where the transportation is, where it's taking me, what I'm doing when I get there, how I'm being organized. I want it to
Starting point is 00:18:16 feel relaxing. I want it to feel like I'm not rushed. And I want to enjoy the experience or else it's like everybody's working so hard for their money what's the point of stressing out and having a bad trip um but yeah so like when i go there and by the way like i like to we like to do this with friends i like to like to like again the way i like to spend our personal money is i like to invite friends i like to foot the bill i like to actually like bring them to dinner and bring them on as an experience i get a lot of joy out of that so does lauren and again i want everyone to enjoy themselves so um we spend a lot of time making sure that we are like the lunches are dialed in dinners, we have experiences to do, we have we have stuff set up. We can always back out of those
Starting point is 00:18:54 plans. But there's a plan, there's an itinerary that the itinerary gets sent to everybody. It's quite musical. It's almost like you're a composer and you're you're doing a score. But again, I think like as it relates to travel, some people are more spontaneous and I get that, but there is nothing worse than going somewhere there and then realizing that you are stuck or can't get a reservation or have to stand in a line and you're sweating and you're running around. and you're stressed out. And to me, like if you're going to travel,
Starting point is 00:19:23 enjoy the experience. I've never done a trip where I've spent money to enjoy and gotten home and then thought about it six months later. I'd be like, man, I wish I didn't spend that money.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I've always said like, wow, that was good. Now there's a million different items that I've bought in from a material perspective where I'm like, man, that did not bring me joy
Starting point is 00:19:38 and I wish I didn't spend that or I didn't do that. But you'll never look back on experiences that you do well and regret them. So any other tips to planning an itinerary? Do you use chat chip-t? I will use chat GPT these days.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Okay. It's pretty good. How do you use it? I just like will tell it. Like what I've done over the years, I've tell what I, what I've done, where I like to go, the places I've liked, not like the hotels I like. It's kind of like forms this perspective of who it thinks you are. It's pretty good, actually. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And then it'll make recommendations. It's really good for, you know, if you're going to new cities or whatever. But what I tell everybody and I've said it for years on this show, the hotel concierge is your best friend. You can email them in advance. I always do email them like maybe a month in advance and start having them sending over recommendations and organizing things. It's also good when you get there to grease them a little bit. What I mean by grease them is give them a little tip just just for helping you organize
Starting point is 00:20:30 in the front end. They'll always going to remember it. They're always going to get you good tables. They're going to give you good recommendations. They'll remember you. So I, you know, I'm greasing left and right. I'm greasing the door people. I'm greasing the front desk.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I'm greasing the conciergeers. I'm greasing. I'm greasing me. I'm greasing everyone. Hey, listen. You won't leave me a lot on the game. Because if you go back to these places, say you, like, I'm a creature of habit. I like to go to the same places.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Like this hotel we just got back from France. I've been going there for, you know, 20 years. I like to go back. Something else that we do, too, is when we go back to hotels, which we like, we are sort of creatures of habit. We like our places. We make a list of everyone's name. And I mean everyone. We have a list, you guys, of the person at the front door, what the person's kids are named, how old they are.
Starting point is 00:21:16 how old they are, what they like, what they don't like. We have a list that tells us all these different things. And as we get to know them year after year, if we keep going, we have these really robust paragraphs of each of these people that we know. So, and I like to do that within chat, GBT. So I'll go on before I go on the vacation and I'll say, okay, I'm going to make a list of everyone at the hotel. And then as I'm at the hotel, I'll talk to chat telling it like, this is John. John has two girls. Their names are this. They're this old.
Starting point is 00:21:50 He knows how to make an amazing margarita. So by the time I've left, I have this whole list of everyone from even the guy who was taking our pictures or helping us on the boat. And so we've met all these new people and we have it all organized. There's a tip in there as well, which is, you know, if you're traveling and in hotels or restaurants, they're in the hospitality business. But every business, and this is a key distinction, every business should be in the hospitality business and every individual should be in the hospitality business, meaning it's a good
Starting point is 00:22:18 idea for anyone to remember names from, you know, from the top of organizations down at the bottom of organizations. It's good to have, you know, personal touches, all these people, and it'll pay dividends for you. People like to be acknowledged. They like to be remembered. They like to be thought of. They like to know that you're paying attention. And so Lauren and I try to do that, not just with travel, but with with kind of every area of our life. And I think it's paid dividends. There's nothing worse when people feel like you don't acknowledge them and when you don't know them and when you're not appreciative of them.
Starting point is 00:22:52 So we try to, we're not always perfect, you know, but we do try to be intentional about it. And you'd be surprised how far it goes, especially like if you're returning to a hotel and maybe that front desk manager or that bellman or the person at the spa has helped you before and you acknowledge, remember them. You're typically going to get a much better service and maybe even. an upgrade. And so we think about that a lot. The next thing that I want to discuss, and I'll kick this one off, are habits that from home that we do in free time. What are we bringing on vacation and travel with us? My habits that I bring from home is I'm not psychotic about my morning and
Starting point is 00:23:28 nighttime routine when I'm traveling, which gives me a little bit of air. And Ryan Holiday actually taught me this. He said, when you're on vacation, you should have a vacation travel routine. and when you're at home, you should have a home routine. And I'm not perfect by any means. I wake up. I see how I feel. I feel like I go with how I want to be aligned in the morning. So when I travel, I like to keep it pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And that means we bring our supplements. We have our electrolytes always before coffee. We bring our sea salt. We bring our minerals. Aminos. Aminos. We'll bring that down to breakfast wherever we're having breakfast. We typically like the same thing for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:24:09 my order is always an omelet with butter, no oil. I also like blueberries or grapefruit or kiwi. Three poached eggs, avocado, blueberries, coffee. Yeah, and then I like a full fat cappuccino. That's mine. And we will take time in the morning to actually enjoy each other when we're traveling over breakfast. Because with children, as you know, you're usually running out the door. Now, most of the time our kids are on vacation with us and we'll bring them into this.
Starting point is 00:24:36 we'll have them sit at the table and ask them what they're grateful for or have conversation. But we do try to just keep it pretty simple with the routine. Something that I do in my free time that I bring when I travel always is reading. And Michael's like this too. We both just love to read. And we're either bringing one hard backbook because Michael is a psychopath about the weight and luggage. or I'll bring my Kindle and I'll just stock it up. Wait, do you want to know why I'm a psychopath?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Not really. This is the husband's listening. Okay. There is nothing more humiliating on God's green earth than your wife's bag or girlfriend's bag being overstuffed and overweight. I don't think that's true. Hold on, no. And then you on your hands and knees sweating, sometimes hung over, a lot of times hungover,
Starting point is 00:25:30 unpacking the bag with clothes flying everywhere in the airport, holding up the line in front of you get terrible looks. You look probably horrendous. And you're on your hands and knees fighting a bag and then standing there like a jerk off wondering where you put the extra stuff. Well, half my bag is my blanket. I have to bring a blanket on vacation. I'm not doing it anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Okay. I bring a blanket on vacation. I'm not going to be worried about the light. I can't worry about the lighting and how I look on camera and then have some, somebody see me wrestling around with your bags in the airport, rolling around like an alligator fighting a fucking log in a swamp. You said that my last time I packed was the best time ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It was. Yeah. I don't want to be one of those jerkoffs either that's standing before that we leave, holding the thing that weighs the bag, you know, talking about the thing. Not doing that. Can we just, I'd rather you bring two bags to check in. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Nobody wants to do it. I don't, I can't think of it's hard about packing. He really overthinks that. The other thing that I like to do when I'm traveling is I like to walk. I like to meditate. I try to write notes. I try to have fresh ideas.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I notice when I detach from my work when I'm traveling, I can have clarity around what I'm doing when it comes to my. business and then if my children are there I really make a huge effort to be off my phone and be present with them. If we're at dinner or lunch, I really don't want to be on the phone in front of them. And if I do pick up my phone, this is something that I learned. I tell them why. So I'll say, I'm going to pick up my phone because I have to send an email to work and I'll give it context so it doesn't feel like I'm dismissing them. And obviously I'm not perfect at this. But That's something when I'm on vacation, I really try to be thoughtful about where the phone is when it comes to children.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I want to be able to play and have them swim and have me be engaged and not be off in space on my phone. Yeah, let's talk about children for a minute and traveling. People have this question. Do we travel with our children always? Sometimes, sometimes not. Most of the time. Most of the time, but depending on the location. So what we've learned over the years is there's places that children can actually enjoy.
Starting point is 00:27:37 These are places where they can swim and run around and maybe be a little bit louder and maybe not disrupt a bunch of people. And then there's other places where, one, it's stressful to you as the parent and two, disruptive of other people trying to enjoy an experience. Now, my personal opinion, and I know not every parent agrees with this, is that it is my responsibility as a parent to make sure that my children do not disrupt other people's time, whether they're dining out at a restaurant, whether they're on a vacation, whether they're on a flight. I know it's hard to control. I know there's some parents screaming at the speaker and yelling at what I'm saying, but I believe that that is my personal responsibility. Some people believe let the kids do their thing, let them be who they are.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Again, my personal belief is it is my responsibility as the adult to make sure that my children do not disrupt other people's experiences. We're trying to go for manners and sophistication. Yeah, like I'm the person. Like if my children get up in a restaurant and start running around, it's an absolute no that they're going home. They're not allowed to. I think like I don't want somebody's greasy kid running up to me when I'm dining.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't want my greasy kid running up to them. We have a saying to our kids too that my grandma used to say to me and I say it to my children all the time and they know exactly what it means and its manner is the butler. And that means set up straight like put your napkin in your lap, put your legs in front of you and eat like an adult. And here's the thing. Children are smart, right? I think sometimes we baby these kids too much. we tell our kids if you want to go to dinner this is how you're going to behave and if you do not behave this way you will not be going to dinner next time and you will be leaving the dinner this time
Starting point is 00:29:07 and we say that to them in advance and we ask them do you understand is that okay with you of course we're going to bring you know colors and things with them to do we're not going to make them sit through a five hour dinner that's absurd but we're going to have that conversation in advance and once in a while there's an iPad with a game on it yeah once in a while it's not an iPad it's it's like Amazon games we try we try not to but we but again like if you treat your children, like yes, they're children, but if you treat them with adult conversation sometimes, they process, they understand. Kids want to, they want to learn. They're like little sponges. So if we say, hey, people are enjoying dinner or they're enjoying a trip. And if you're going to come here,
Starting point is 00:29:43 this is the expectation to say you have to behave. And if you can't, then you can't come. That it's almost like a little contract you sign with them. So we do that. But back to traveling. If we do travel with the kids at this point now being on our third kid and having six years of experience raising kids, we try to at least pick destination. that are family friendly, where there's other parents there with kids. Then we're a little bit more lenient because there's other parents there. They're in the same boat. They get it.
Starting point is 00:30:06 We're all kind of signing up to have this kid experience. We do travel with a nanny. That's a question. People ask all the time. We travel with a nanny. Again, we have three kids. And sometimes when it's a long trip, we travel with a homeschool teacher. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's a question that people always want to know. I have no shame in the game of the help that I have. Let's explain that context. So, Lauren and I have put our children into different schools. I won't get into those specifically. One of the issues is that we travel a lot for work and for the show. Dear Media has an office in New York, an office in L.A. and in Texas, and so we're bouncing.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And if we're going for a longer period of time, we want our children with us. Problem with that for parents with school-age kids is the schools really do not like that. They don't like when you're out of school. They don't like when you're pulling them up. No, you got called into the principal's office. I got called into the vice principal's office. Lovely vice principal, by the way. Really nice.
Starting point is 00:30:56 But I had PTSD from when I was younger. And so what we did is we actually hired a really amazing woman who is an actual teacher from a school. And she works with us and our family and teaches our kids. And when we have longer trips and the kids, say we're going to New York or L.A. And it's not really like a fun family trip. We try to create opportunities for them to go out of fun and play. But they have like a structured kind of like lesson in school structure when they're traveling so that they can keep up with their lessons, that we can keep working and that they can be with us. It's a theme.
Starting point is 00:31:27 They have theme days. And to be clear, like, we're aware that this is not applicable to everyone and it's a cost and it's a resource that we have to invest in. But again, like if we're talking honestly about our life, this is how we do things. It's how we're able to keep performing. It's how we're able to keep working. And we invest in our team the same way we invest in the team and the companies. Let's take a quick break to talk about Armour Colostrum. I love a product that packs a punch.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I also love a product that nails a lot of birds with one stone. And that is definitely armor. We live in a time now where there are. There's so many supplements, so many recommendations, so many things you can take. I always looking for something that can get a bunch done with as little investment as possible. That's why I love armor because this single product helps strengthen immune health, fortify your gut health, it ignites a healthy metabolism, can potentially give you better hair health, skin health, and fuel performance and recovery.
Starting point is 00:32:16 This is so important because we live in an environment our biology was never designed for. EMFs, artificial light, seed oils, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, modern stressors, things that should worry you that I don't want to keep harping on, but things that we also need to be aware of. But what's great is Armour Colossum works at the cellular level to bolster your health from within. And Colossum is nature's first whole food with over 400 bioactive nutrients that fortify gut health,
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Starting point is 00:32:57 or you can actually just dump it directly into your mouth. It tastes good. It tastes like a milk dud. And like I said, it's really easy to use and our whole family takes it. So check them out. We've worked out a special offer for our audience. We've received 30% off your first subscription order.
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Starting point is 00:34:30 healthy fats that mixes right into water smoothies and more to support muscle development and cognition to fuel everything they've got going on. Of course, we've worked out a special deal with Haya. I received 50% off your first order on any of their products to claim the deal. You must go to Hiahealth.com slash skinny. This deal is not available on their regular website. Go to H-I-Y-A-H-E-A-L-T-H-H-E-A-L-T-H-L-H-L-S-S-Sh Skinny and get your kids the full body support they deserve. I made a page on Revolve of all my favorites for you, okay? I picked classic timeless pieces that I love, some I have bought. Most I have bought.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Some I have not. They're on my wish list, but there are things that I actually want to wear or that I have worn. I am a big Revolve fan because I buy things last minute. And they always are the most seamless when it comes to shipping me the cutest outfits that I can find. I really like to use Revolve for my basics. So I'll go on and get all my white redone t-shirts on there. I'll go on and get my black, like tight, flattering tops there. I found a lot of tops that are on my favorite page that are black, tight. They kind of pull you in at the waist, push the boobs up a little. Some have shoulder pads. They're so good. But there's a lot of simple pieces. I also use Revolve for my jeans.
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Starting point is 00:37:39 alongside a team of healthcare practitioners. So it wasn't in a boardroom, okay? There's a completely new way to optimize your health. Give it a try at Trowdaily.com slash skinny or intercode skinny at checkout for 25% off your first order. That's TROdaily.com slash skinny for 25% off your first order. And I think when it comes to our life, what we've realized when you guys ask questions, most of it is about the behind the scenes, which is why we're sort of pulling the curtain off this and showing exactly how Michael said we set up our life so we can do what we do. The homeschool teacher's amazing. She themes each day, like I said, yesterday was Space Day. They had a Ferry and Goblin Day. Science Day. Ice cream day. And they'll like learn to make ice cream.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It's really cute. And if you guys, by the way, I do want to say this. If you guys are interested in me doing a full episode on how our homeschool teacher structures the days and the summers and all the things, I can do an in-depth episode on that. We had to get really honest with ourselves as a family and realize that the way that we're working right now and the way that we're traveling for work. And, you know, Lauren and I obviously do the show together and work at the same time. Like the typical school structure may not work for our family because we're not willing to leave our kids for long periods of time without us. And obviously the schools want the kids in school.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And so we're not slowing down our work and they're not slowing down their school. So we had to figure out a structure that works. What I will say is just like any other family when we're in a hotel room with three kids under six. we start to go nuts. We typically try to book those connecting rooms. And even with that, the kids are crawling all over the place. They're yelling. They're out of routine.
Starting point is 00:39:19 They like to sleep in our bed. They like to crawl into our beds. It can be disruptive. It's definitely not for everybody. And it's hard, you know, for the parents that have traveled with kids. It is definitely, it's an investment. It is a challenge. It requires a lot of energy.
Starting point is 00:39:33 What we say with the kids, it is not a vacation. It's a trip. And, but we do want to be with our kids. So, you know, we take time for ourselves and with our friends, but then when we do travel with the kids, it's a little bit different, more involved. Something that has really helped when we do have to travel for like three days that's really been helpful is my stylist, Isabel, told me this idea. She makes a little binder for her kids and she explains where she's going and why she has to go. So I'll say, mommy is going to France and she has to go speak at Can Lion about her show. and it'll be a picture of me and my kids and they'll have little pictures and they can see exactly what I'm doing so they have context.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And mommy is gone for this many days and each day that she's gone, there's going to be a treasure hunt. So it gives them context about how many days were gone. So what we'll do is we'll put a little envelope on each page and I can show you guys a visual if you want. And each page will have a treasure hunt card. So day one, it'll say I do one for Zaza and for Tzazza and for Tijuana. town's bond is obviously too little. And they'll open day one card and it'll say, I am hiding by where all the dog food is and the dog bones. And they'll have to go find the treasure and there'll be a little treasure there. And I try to make the treasure a craft. So I just bought some treasures for a
Starting point is 00:40:58 trip that were going on. And one of the crafts is like decorating headbands for my daughter. And so she'll find that and she'll be able to do it. And then she can see, okay, there's three more days left of the trip because she can count how many treasures. So what I've found is not only does it give her something that makes her excited when she's opening it in the morning, she can also call me and we can do it together so it's interactive. Then she can go do the craft, which is fun and like works her brain. And then she can also see like there's only three more days left. So that's been really helpful. She has like a little pink binder that we decorated together and Towns has a little navy blue binder. And that's been something that's really worked. Isabel showed me the whole breakdown of
Starting point is 00:41:39 how she did this with her daughter and her daughter loves it too. So that's been very effective if anyone wants to see that. Next question. How do you protect your boredom? Meaning some of the best ideas are from walking, driving in the shower, doing nothing, staring out the window. I personally don't ever get bored and I know that sounds strange, but I think the only reason you would become bored as a person as an individual is if you stop being curious. So for me, I have so many different interests, whether, you know, that's something I want to watch or it's something I want to learn about or it's a book I want to read or it's a game I want to play or it's somebody I want to speak to. Or a boob you want to grab. Yeah, I mean, I mean, listen, and if you are feeling boredom,
Starting point is 00:42:22 it's a moment to be introspective in my opinion to start thinking about your interests. You know, I think boredom is a sign that you need to start thinking about how to get more interested in different things, in different hobbies, in different topics, whether that's going for a workout, getting active, if it's going to meet some friends, if it's going to read a book. Like there are so many things that we have at our fingertips now. We're not like our ancestors where you wake up in a rock hut somewhere and there's nothing to do. Like we have a million things to do from digital devices to outdoor activities to places to go to books to read to things to watch.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Like if you're bored, that's kind of on you. I feel the same way about being bored. I can't remember the last time I was bored because there's so many things to read and do and sea and sauna and cold and lay with a magazine. I love nothing more on a Saturday morning to take my big cup of coffee outside to my porch and read my magazine. That's like my favorite thing to do is read a magazine. So I don't feel bored, but I do feel that I, one of the most important things in my life to me is solitude. I have to have solitude to recharge.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And sometimes that means sitting in the car. a couple extra minutes. Lauren and I funny enough, and maybe this is, I think some people that know us know this, but we're actually both kind of like loners and like to be away from people and like to be alone.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And it's strange because of what we do for a living where we're talking to people and working with a lot of people and around a lot of people. But when we get time to ourselves, we both like to be alone. Sometimes that's together, but a lot of times it's like alone alone.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But I think too, we like to be alone with each other too. So I sometimes like to be alone with myself. No, so do I. I went to dinner last night by myself. Don't get ahead of yourself. Don't get. Don't get up. Don't get stressed. I went to a bar last night and sat and had chips and salsa and a margarita. No, I did not say that. I have the text messages. For two hours by myself and it was lovely. But what I was saying is like you and I, there's a lot of times where we're alone. We can be together like you and I and just be like siloed. No, but I'm going to be honest. We both like, or alone time, and I think that's okay to watch your alone time, even if you're in a relationship,
Starting point is 00:44:41 right? Like, I think it's okay to be in solitude and think for yourself and relax by yourself and be introspective and journal and do whatever you want. I want to change my answer a little bit about the bored thing because I want, because I realize that I do get bored, but when I do get bored, I quickly remove myself from the situation. So again. Oh, so you're saying other people are boring you.
Starting point is 00:45:04 No. So what I'm saying is. Oh, my God, he is saying that. What I'm saying is that, one, if you do get bored, it's a moment to realize you're either in a boring situation and you need to make an adjustment or you need to get interested in. But the last thing anyone wants is to be bored by either people or things or activities and stay in those situations. I feel like you have a specific situation that you're talking about. Well, I was just thinking the other day I was like dying of boredom in this interaction I was in and I had a vision of myself walking. out of my body and like leaving.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And then I read this thing that like Napoleon. Is that how it was to date you before me? No, I read this thing that Napoleon used to talk to people. And if he got bored by small talk mid-conversation, he would just walk away. And I think I'm going to start doing that. I think I'm just, you know, like if you say, hey, how's the weather? Oh, it's been rainy. I was like, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:45:57 We know, we all know. We all have the app. Let's just move along. Let's just save ourselves the time. What are some rituals that you do during your free time? Rituals. So, okay, I get in my head way too much. I could get, like, stuck in there.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I, like, feels like sometimes I'm, like, slamming drawers and doors and doors and compartments trying to, like, thinking about too many things in a non-organized way. So one of the first things I do whenever I get some time alone, if I can, is I sit down and I start writing. And I just write whatever's in my head. I write this. I write that. I write, like, what I'm thinking about. I write, why I think I'm thinking about.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I write, you know, I don't, there's not a formula to it, but I just have to get it out. And then I can, then I read it for a second. So I do that. I read a lot. I jump from like newspapers to articles to books. You're reading Prince of Tides right now. I'm reading The Prince of Tides right now. And I'm also reading a book called The Jaguar.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's by this Italian author that basically he wrote it and then he died and it didn't get published. And he left his heirs to publish it. And it's really good. It's the only book he ever wrote. We also take walks a lot. We take a lot of walks. We take a lot of walks. But I don't know, you know, like when I have free time, like I try to enjoy myself.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I try to be off my phone. I try to find things to do like, whether it's video games or tennis or going to work out or swimming or being with the kids. Last Sunday, we went over to Westons and we did a cold plunge sauna and took an hour and a half and it was lovely. And then I swam all day with the kids. So I do stuff like that. Yeah. We do family movie night. Family movie night.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Once a week where the kids get to switch off. We have a bunch of like rapid. fire questions. Let's do it. People want to know how you think about packing for a trip, like what you at this point are bringing and not bringing and what's a non-negotiable and what you what you're doing and not doing? I think I'm doing a good job lately. You're doing a lot better job, which is huge improvement. Well, let me let me know. Okay, go to it and then tell me what you think you were doing wrong because I think there's the lesson in there. So here's the first thing. I pick a color palette. This has been so helpful. So on the next trip I'm going on, my color palette is
Starting point is 00:48:06 blue, butter yellow, pops of red, a lot of white, and maybe like one or two fun outfits. Okay? And I want it to be a color story when it's hanging on a rack. So this is a Lauren Bostic tip that Michael has taken from me. I bought a rack off Amazon. It's a silver wrap. It's a silver rack, we can link it for you. And it's changed the way I pack. So what I do is I start conceptualizing my color palette and then I'll pull things from my closet slowly over a week. And I'll hang it on my rack downstairs and I'll start looking at the flow of the colors. And I want things to be interchangeable, right? So if I'm bringing a pair of white linen pants, I want to be able to wear it with a couple different outfits. If I'm bringing a baby blue shirt, I want to be able to wear it with a
Starting point is 00:48:59 couple different outfits. And then that's where my stylist, Isabel, comes in. I'll take pictures of what I like and what my vibe is, and then she'll help me put outfits together. And sometimes that means she's sending things for me to add in. Sometimes it means she's mixing and matching things. And then she'll give me a picture of how to wear each outfit. And I'll print it out and put it in a folder so I can quickly see. That includes accessories, sunglasses, what nail polish I'm wearing, what phone case I have. And listen, anyone who's listening can do this all for free on chat GPT. So you should take your pictures of your clothes, put it through chat GPT, and make outfits so you're ready to rock. And then every single time I pack, I always leave room for a huge fluffy blanket.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I will not go on a trip without my blanket. And then I have a list of things that I have to bring, like the skinny confidential mouth tape, my ice roller, my Kindle, my chargers. And then the other thing, and I've learned this over time is I just bought these little containers off Amazon that are in butter yellow and blue keeping the theme. The cocking cubes? No. Oh. They're things to hold my shampoo, my conditioner, my oil cleanser, so I don't have to bring the whole thing with me. And I'll organize that really nicely.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And then I also will have my packing cubes be themed. So if my kids are coming, they each have a different color packing. cube. Zaz is pink, Towns is navy blue, and Bond is olive green. And so I know exactly where each of their clothes is. But for me, on this trip, I did baby blue packing cubes and then I'll do butter yellow for the cosmetics. So it's all organized. Well, nobody's going to tell anyone this besides me. Maybe they'll tell them. It is uncultured and it looks foolish when you show up to a hotel with 18 bags for a few days trip. Immediately everyone there is judging you like you're a fool. A snob's guide to travel.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And you shouldn't do it. So again, everyone's like, I think some people, depending on who you're talking to, they take the overpacking with 19 bags. It's like a badge of honor. But it's not practical. So I think what people do sometimes is, one, they don't know where they're going. Again, they don't have a plan. So they pack 18 different outfits and so see what happens.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Again, I don't like that strategy. Or they assume that they're going to have like a morning look, a day look and an evening look every single day. So they need like 21 different looks. But when you're on, vacation, you should be able to mix and match things. You should have a couple pants, couple tops, couple shirts, things that you can wear together. You don't need to be the whole workroom. You're psychotic at packing. You have a list like I've never seen. Because I don't want to
Starting point is 00:51:37 be stressed about loading everything in and out of a bag. And I also think that it's not cultured to go and show up with 19 different suitcases that are exploding from the seams. And let me also give another tip. You got to bring a steamer. We bring a steamer when we travel so we can make sure there's no wrinkles in the clothes. We also are really into garment bags right now. The other thing is, is I like to bring a hard luggage carry on. My friend Marisol taught me this. And I like to put my valuables in there. And then I'm a carry on. And then I like to bring a big tote bag, not a nice bag. And I like to put the bags that I'm wearing in the trip in the tote bag. So I'm not, so I'm not using my nice purse to travel. Does that
Starting point is 00:52:24 make sense? Yes. It doesn't make sense. It's like a tope, like a farmer's market tote bag, but it's covering my stuff. Quick break to talk about the ChiliPad 2.0. I love this product. I recently just shared about it on my Instagram stories. Here's the thing. When you share a bed with someone, sleep becomes a team sport and not always a cooperative one, especially in our house. When one of you runs hot like I do and one of you runs cold like my wife does, you've tried every combination of blankets, fans, and thermostat settings and someone is always losing. Typically, it may be you. And when you're someone who takes their health seriously like we do,
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Starting point is 00:54:02 Your sleep deserves the same commitment. Quick break to talk about branch basics. This is something Lauren and I cannot live without now. We use it at the home. We use it in the office. We even take it when we're traveling or send it to wherever we're traveling. That's because we want a clean space, but we don't want any of the harmful chemical hormone disrupting cleaning supplies that most places use. Here's the thing. If you're someone who pays attention to what your family's eating, what's going on in their skin, what's in your environment, you probably also care about the ingredients in your cleaning products, or at least you should. Conventional cleaning products contain things linked to hormone disruption, skin
Starting point is 00:54:32 sensitivity, and respiratory irritation with repeated exposure, even when they're earmarked to feel safe or natural. We had the founder of Branch Basics on this podcast twice, talking about all the things that cleaning supply companies use in their cleaning supplies that cause harm. You don't have to worry about this with Branch Basics, because Branch Basics is made from plant and mineral-based ingredients, and branch basics is human safe and fragrance-free, making it perfect for families, especially those with babies, kids, or pets, which is us and many of you view. And here's the good news.
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Starting point is 00:57:31 foundation. I also like how the caffeine gives you, like, a slight tint. It's so beautiful, so nice. I just went on vacation. We were in Turks, and I was using this sunscreen the entire trip, and I didn't even have to wear makeup because the caffeine just gives you such a pretty subtle, tight, tinted glow. It's just everything you want in a sunscreen. How I apply it is I use a beauty blender and I get the beauty blender a little bit wet and then I take the sunscreen and I put it on the beauty blender and I like tap it on my skin and then I just brush up my brows. I brought the brow peptide here and I'm good to go after a swipe of lip gloss. That's all I need for vacation. But I also honestly like the skinny confidentials caffeinated sunscreen just under foundation as a primer. I use it
Starting point is 00:58:17 all the time for that. So if you're looking for a great SPF that lays nice under your makeup, something with a little tint, you have to check out the Skinny Confidentials caffeinated sunscreen. It is 33% off right now. I would get to since it's summer and definitely grab the brow peptide while you're on the site. And like I said, just add some nice lip gloss and you are good to go. It will upgrade your sunscreen routine and you'll get protection while you're looking all glowy and doy. Go to shopspinneyconfidential.com and stock the products. That's shop, skinny confidential.com. The best suitcase for anyone wondering that wants to travel and have the most efficient space,
Starting point is 00:58:54 and it doesn't seem like this when you look at it, is the Toomey Alpha Long Trip garment bag, I believe. But look it up. It's buy To Me, and you have to buy four To Me specific hangers separately. What you do is you can hang multiple pants, multiple shirts, and a jacket on each of this, and then they have these travel pad, and then they have an area for the shoes and an outside area with these packing cubes. That thing, I've looked at a lot of suitcases, can hold more and also organize more things easily. Also, when you bring it on these hangers, you get to a place you're going. All you do is just take it out of your bag and hang the hangers up and you're done.
Starting point is 00:59:28 You don't have to unload everything. By the way, another thing we do when we travel is the second we get there, we unload everything. We hang everything. We put away our supplements all organized. That's another reason you don't want 18 different things because you can't. Then you get organized. You can use the room. You can have space.
Starting point is 00:59:43 You don't have bags laying all over the floor, exploded everywhere again. yuck. This is rapid fire. Okay. Rapid fire. How do you feel about nightclubs? Now or years ago? For your free time. Well, listen, nightclubs are historically for hunting, going out and meeting people. I don't see the point in being a dad of three small children who's married standing in a nightclub, listening to music where I can't speak to anyone. But there was a time and place when definitely like I would have had the exact opposite answer. I think it depends what stage of life you're in.
Starting point is 01:00:16 you want to know a fun fact about me. I never liked a nightclub, ever. Good for you. I'm not saying that's, I just don't, I'll tell you why I don't like it. I like when I go out, I want to engage with people and hear them talk. And when the music is so loud where you can't hear them talk and you're screaming, I don't get the, I don't go to nightclubs anymore if that's what you're asking. Okay. I don't really go out at night so much anymore either if you're wondering. You're in bed at 7.30. It depends. I have to be with. I have to be with. I don't know. I have to be with the group if I'm going to a dinner or doing things. But no, I mean, listen, what do you think everybody would think if they saw me, like,
Starting point is 01:00:53 running around at 1.30 at night in a nightclub without my wife and children? It's a little bit of a red flag, right? What's your go-to cocktail order in your free time? I like a Nogroni. I like an old-fashioned. I like one margarita and then switch to tequila soda or tequila on the rocks. I like a gin and tonic in a big wine goblet depending on if I'm late at night. But those are like my, I like the classic cocktails.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I don't like sugary drinks. I have three drinks. What's your drinks? The first one is a margarita shaken freezing cold. I want to see ice on the top with no sweetener, a fucking speck of agave, a little bit of quantro, fresh lime juice, and a good tequila. The other one I like is, to your point. I like a gin tonic with grapefruit and a huge goblet thanks to my friend Marisol. That's a great drink and doesn't get you hung over.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I also like a gin martini up with a twist. Not too much twist, though. Just like 12 drinks. And then the last one that I like that is a go-to lately is I love a really great red wine. That's the other thing I want to clarify, actually, while we're on the topic of alcohol and I'll even throw in cigars, is I think sometimes people have, especially if they're new to us, they have this notion that we like are all about wellness. Lauren and I are definitely the 80-20 model. Like we're 80%- And the 20s let it rip.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And the 20s let it rip. I mean, I am, I will drink many people under the table. I do not count my drinks. I heard Andrew Huberman say if you have more than two drinks a week when you're out, then like you're like going to die. I mean, that's like my, that's like my brunch warm up if I'm going after it. That's like, that's just like the opening act. That we like to have fun.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yeah. So, I mean, we will get out. After it with friends, for my friends in Maha that are hiding from alcohol and, you know, not staying up past 8.30 at night. I am not going to those dinners. I am not participating. I will be the only one at the table. When we're traveling and having free time. I will drink for the whole table and I don't care who knows it.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I like to have some fun. We like to live. When we're out and we're with our friends and we're going, we like to go. We come from a different generation. I can drink with the boys. Or it can drink with the boys. But anyways, jokes aside, I think. like, listen, alcohol obviously could be harmful for some people.
Starting point is 01:03:17 You have to watch out and not overdo it, all the disclaimers. But also, like, when I look back on all the fun times I've had in my life and the experiences and time with friends, like a lot of times there's alcohol involved. And again, we're not going overboard, but we're having fun. I'm not going to sit there and say, oh, God, my sleep score. My whoops says, like, that's not us. So I want that out there. Also, I will enjoy a cigar.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I saw somebody message me. They were mad that I was talking about nicotine. I've loved nicotine since I've discovered. I used to smoke cigarettes. Don't do that anymore. It's not good. But I will have a great cigar after drinks with people any day of the week. Love a good cigar. The point is we like to have fun. We like to enjoy. It's not just all business. It's fun too. Last and final question. What is one thing you cannot live without when it comes to travel? A solid itinerary with a plan. If you invite me anywhere and you say, oh, just show up, it'll be fine. I'm not going. I don't want to know. I don't
Starting point is 01:04:11 want to get there. I don't want to be... You want to know what's going on. I want to know where I'm going. I call it the control freaking me. I don't want to sit there and be like, you know, you have these friends. They're so sure of themselves. Like, oh, when we get there, it'll be fine. We'll get a table. They never get a table. And by the way, they get the table and it's the one that gets smashed in the back by the kitchen door. Nope, I will ask you to move me. I do not want to stand by the kitchen door. I also don't want to stand by the barback station. I do not want to be in a shadowy part of the room, depending on what room it is. Is that room? Is that room? I'm one of those guys that will say, like, if you sit me at a table and I don't like it, I will.
Starting point is 01:04:44 No, we're not. But by the way, after you move me, I will grease you, Carson, I will grease them. I always give a grease. So I'm not just a pain. I will be like, I understand that I'm being a pain in the ass. Here's a grease. My travel, there's three. Mouth tape, Kindle, and blanket.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Don't mess with the blanket. He tries to get the blanket out of my luggage every time it's not coming out. You know. And I'm going to also. also link the blanket that I like. It's a non-toxic blanket right now that's incredible. I'm going to put it in the show notes. I think a lot of people, like, they wear this like easygoing thing as a badge of honor. I respect the people that are like particular and specific. Do you think I'm easygoing? No, no, no, no, no. I think you moonlight and pretend you're easygoing and like you portray that, but you are not easygoing. Sure. You are, if Lauren gets in a cab or a car or an Uber and they have,
Starting point is 01:05:41 one of those trees, she hangs her head out the window like the Joker in the Dark Night. I'm not easy going when it comes to smell. It'll be seven degrees outside and she'll be hanging out like Heath Ledger in the Joker in the dark night. I don't like when people project their scent onto me. She will call down to hotels and tell them to not clean and only use, like it's a whole No, I call down and I say, hello, please can you just use water when you're cleaning. I have another, I have another travel hack for people.
Starting point is 01:06:11 actually, and everybody probably, a lot of people know this, but if you don't, it's a good one. Again, if you don't want to overpack and you're going to a place, you can go on Amazon, you can type in the address to the hotel, you can write that address and then in the for who it's from, you can write care of guest and then your name. And when you're going places, you can have stuff sent there. So for example, hotel waters, I know this sounds great. I am fiscally responsible sometimes. You know, who wants to pay $9 for a bottle of water in these hotels?
Starting point is 01:06:38 13. Some of these places. So we will ship cases of water from Amazon. We will ship baby supplies. Gotta get our lune in water. Yeah, we will ship our supplements. We will ship protein. We will ship stuff from Amazon.
Starting point is 01:06:49 We get there. The hotel will hold it for you. And then you can open it in your room and you have all this stuff that you need without having to pack it. It's a good hack. Free time, travel tips, itineraries galore. It's summer. Hopefully we didn't have this episode come out too late.
Starting point is 01:07:02 People have already planned their travel. But if you're getting ready to travel and summer's still here, you still have time. Call that hotel concierge. Get that itinerary going. Book something. Don't overpay. pack and look like an uncultured slob. It's important. Grease people. Make sure you're greasing. Everyone can watch this episode on YouTube. They can see our new fresh lighting that Carson,
Starting point is 01:07:20 Emily, Nick and I have spent a lot of time on. We appreciate you guys listening and let us know what you want to hear next on our Bostic solo. And greasing means tip, hopefully, tipping the person. I just want to clarify that just in case. Except it, unless it's me. Yeah, unless it's Lauren, it's different grease. All right, guys, these are fun. Goodbye.

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