The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - The Morning Toast w Jackie & Claudia Oshry - Controversy, Beauty Procedures, Sparking Joy, & Staying Real

Episode Date: May 28, 2019

#191: On this episode we are joined by the ladies from The Morning Toast. This is their second appearance on the show as they were formerly The Morning Breath (check episode 88). On their return we di...scuss the controversy around their name change, beauty procedures, wedding planning, how to keep it real, and the little things in life that spark joy. To learn more about The Morning Toast click HERE To connect with Claudia Oshry click HERE To connect with Jackie Oshry click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by the Peleton Tread Discover the immersive and challenging total body training you can get from Peloton Tread. Peloton is offering listeners a limited-time offer. Go to www.onepeleton.com, use the code “SKINNY”, to get $100 off accessories with the purchase of a Tread. WOO MORE PLAY is the all natural and organic coconut love oil that is changing the way we have sex. With only 4 all natural ingredients WOO is the perfect personal lubricant to spice up your sex life. That's just the pre-party.  Now Get ready for the after party with WOO FRESHIES! All Him & Her Listeners will receive 20% off your entire order plus free shipping when when visiting www.woomoreplay.com & using promo code skinny20 at checkout. This episode is brought to you by ROTHY'S. Rothy’s shoes are stylish, sustainable, and comfortable enough for every day wear, anywhere. Rothy's will blow your mind that they’re made from recycled plastic water bottles, because they’re the softest shoe you’ll put on your feet. You can feel good about wearing them.To try ROTHY's go to ROTHYS.COM and enter PROMO code "SKINNY" at checkout Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production feeling fresh feeling sexy feeling hot feeling spicy so is michael cuz Woo more play just launched their latest product as you guys know I'm a partner with woo and tons of you have tried the coconut oil lube. It's the best lube on the planet You can eat it lick it suck it fuck it. We've discussed this multiple times before, but this is the new launch. Okay. The freshies have dropped. They're a natural fresh towelette made with organic cranberry, aloe vera, vanilla, and coconut water. So you can clean up. You could clean up before you could clean up after there's, there's lots of circumstances here. Say you wanted to go out for
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Starting point is 00:01:45 to want to try these amazing, delicious coconutty wipes. So all you have to do is go to woo more play.com. That's w O O M O R E P L A Y.com and use promo code skinny 20 for 20% off guys. I also want to say these fit in your purse. They're so cute and they come in this vintage cigarette box that is so chic. Again, that's woomoreplay.com promo code skinny20. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. As a society, we're all sort of trying to figure out where we are going to shake out on this like politically correct discussion. So many people are so PC.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So many people are like anti-PC and, you know, say things just to say them. And so I think a big lesson for us has been like, we always want to be irreverent and unfiltered and speak our truths. But like, where, where do we draw the line? The point of our show is only to be positive. We're only trying to make people laugh, get through the day. Work days are long. It's terrible, all that stuff. So if at any point, anything we ever say upsets someone, like that's not the goal.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So we're going to own the fact that like we said something that upsets you and we're gonna try and not do it again I hate when people like upset people and refuse to acknowledge just that someone's upset It's okay if you meant it or not, but like just acknowledge I see that you're hurt whatever Happy Tuesday guys. Welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show that clip was from our guests of the show today Claudia and Jackie Oshry. So we had the best time recording with Claudia and Jackie. And I feel like we have a little bit to discuss before we get into the show though, Michael. Um, maybe let's talk about what happened this week. Well, it would happen. It was, um, we're recording this right now. This intro last
Starting point is 00:03:40 night was Lauren's birthday and we thought it'd be fun to do a little, to do something a little bit different. Lauren, maybe I'll let you explain it to that because I'm going to blunder this. I'm going to fuck it up. Just like I fucked last night up. Okay. Fucked last night. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You could call it that. Okay. So sex with Emily came on our podcast. The episode hasn't aired yet and we committed to playing this game to spice things up. We're always looking to spice things up. You have to in a relationship called sexy stranger. If you don't know what it is, it's basically role-playing mixed with, um, I guess it's role-playing. It's not mixed with anything. It's role-playing. Okay. It's role-playing. So basically you dress up as a character, you get into full character,
Starting point is 00:04:19 and then you go separately to whatever bar or restaurant that you're meeting at. Cause you, and you casually bump into each other. The idea is that you're two sexy strangers that have never met before. And typically the guy or the girl or guy and guy and girl or girl, you go and you pick up your significant partner as if you've never met them before. It's really hot. It's hot. You're supposed to develop like these backstories.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I had a weird, my name was Ian Dunross. Hold on, hold on. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. Okay, we're not there. Ian Dunross weird, my name was Ian Dunross. Hold on, hold on. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. Okay, we're not there. Ian Dunross? Like, I don't even know. That is the weirdest name.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Keep going, keep going. Okay, so yesterday on my birthday, I said I wanted to go through with our commitment and do Sexy Stranger. So I, like I always have to, have to do everything like over the top. I need intense. Give me anything, don't give me boring.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So I went out and I asked my friend Alexi who works at the DP Hugh house to do a wig. We got this black, shiny human hair wig, and then he cut it into this blunt Bob. And then my friend Kelsey did my makeup and it was super smoky eyed, like with a nude lip. We did a big overline. So I had these luscious lips and then I pushed my tits up to my chin. They were basically in your neck. They were so up. Okay. So then I did like all black. I did a leather glove. Like I w I was, it was going now. My character's name, Michael was Tatiana and she was a Russian working girl and she was major. And she, she lived in LA and New York and sometimes San Tropez san trope well okay this is my
Starting point is 00:05:47 problem i you you had a whole team that helped that helped you this you had a hair person you had a makeup you had a costume person i didn't realize how hard you were committing and i should listen i've known you for a long time i should have known yeah what do you mean so i'm gonna dip my toe in and like and like show up with like a some eyeshadow so i'll just take full accountability and saying i didn't realize the full commitment. Now that I know I'm going to, we're going to do a round two because for multiple reasons, one, we learned a few things on this sexy stranger. One, Lauren fully committed and I didn't, I was in like a weird leather pants. I had a cowboy hat. I had a bolo tie. Listen, I couldn't figure out if my backstory was like,
Starting point is 00:06:20 I was an oil guy from Texas or I was a commodities trader from Hong Kong. I couldn't figure out if I was cheating on my wife or if I was out exploring the new world. I didn't know what to do. You didn't get your story straight, which is so annoying. My story was completely not straight. But then here's the part where we really fucked up, Lauren. We booked an intimate dinner at a restaurant that we really like. It's our favorite restaurant in the whole world. It's this hole-in-the-wall Italian place. Yeah. And the problem was that there's no vibe in this restaurant. There's no music.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's quiet. You're sitting, literally, you can bump elbows with the people next to you. And so, Lauren shows up looking like an aggressive working girl with a wig and a trench coat. And I'm in leather pants and a bolo tie. And the people next to us were like, what the hell is going on? They're in a nice blazer and relaxed. It wasn't the right venue. The venue that we needed to do, Lauren, we needed to show up to like a random hotel.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You or I are sitting at the bar and then you get to actually pick up the person. You don't end up in an actual intimate dinner. Yeah, so I think this is important to talk about before we get in the show. If you're going to do Sexy Stranger, we really want you to use this as a resource because there are things we would do differently. We have to do it over again, for sure. We're going to do it again and we're going to talk about it the second time. And it'll probably be after the episode that airs with Emily.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I am tapping our audience right now. I need some feedback. I need some backstory. I need some costume advice because I don't have a whole team like you. Please give him some help. But there's so many things you could have done. I walked in and I was expecting you to do something really creative and you're sitting with your hat that I've seen a hundred times, which is like a cowboy hat with a bolo on. I get the vibe now. I didn't realize how hard you're committed. I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:54 what are you doing? And then we sit down at this table, which was the wrong table. We needed to be at the bar. So I could like show leg and drink a martini. No vermouth. You know what I mean? What do you think the people next to us were thinking? The couple next to us had an ear horn to our conversation because they're like, what is happening? Um, and so Michael starts stuttering when I walk in because my tits are so pushed up. My nipples are basically in my salad artichoke to be specific. And he, he doesn't know what to do. So he starts... I didn't know what to do. Listen, I was at a loss for words. I was like, do I pretend I don't know you?
Starting point is 00:08:31 I didn't know how to go. I think you have to have the bar sitting, and you have to have the opportunity as the man or the woman to go and pick up. That was the whole goal. I was going to show up as a stranger and pick you up somewhere, and then one thing leads to another. Maybe there's a dinner, maybe it's just straight to the, to the hotel room and sex. Who knows? I like option two. Cause I know I could take or leave the food, but you know, I didn't have that opportunity. First, next thing I knew, we're
Starting point is 00:08:54 just sitting at an intimate dinner with a, with two random people. Next time we do it, which we are doing it again, and I'm setting a date. So you commit to it and you can get a whole crew to do whatever you need. Um, I need you to really step it up 100 notches we're gonna do it at a bar we're gonna have a hotel room booked and it's really gonna be sexy stranger i'm bringing in a team this time do you remember back in the day when ashton kutcher did that show pranked is that what you call yeah and he had like the earpiece and there was the guys in the van waiting outside i thought you were gonna have the monitors and they were like feeding him with stuff through his earpiece like that's what i want i want a let down i need a whole taylor i need to, I need a whole team.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I want everybody involved. I need, I need to like be coached through it. I just need more of a setup. That's all. We got it. We got it. So, so next time we're going to dial it in. And so we ate dinner in our sexy stranger outfits.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I was full costume. I'll post it on my Instagram so you can see what Tatiana looked like. She had a blunt bang. It was fun. And then we went home and we used woo. Yeah. I still broke off a piece of that ass last night. So that's good. Yeah. And it was fun. And you'd still, though, you told me you're like, I love my wife. Yeah. I listen, here's I'll get a little, I'll get a little sweet from it. I think a lot,
Starting point is 00:09:56 I get the sexy stranger. I get the idea behind doing something different, shaking it up and, and, you know, having something, some flair into the relationship. But for me, like, I like my wife. I like the way my wife looks. I like, I like who I chose. I'm, I'm turned on already. So it was, it was okay. But I, I would take you the way you are. Um, anyways, now the way you look, so that's so sweet that you think that about me. I guess I'm not trying to escape my life. I like to mix it up though. Sometimes remember when you grew a long beard and I said it felt like I was cheating on you. That was hot. I can do that again. That's turn on. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Listen, if you're giving me green light to grow the beard again, I could be into that. Okay. But you can grow the beard again. But we got to have like a lot of sex if you grow the beard because that was fun. That was spicy. All right. You got it. With that, guys, we have the ladies from The Morning Toast on the show today.
Starting point is 00:10:41 If you guys haven't heard of The Morning Toast, it is a morning show for millennials. Their secret Facebook group is lit. I'm in it. And what I love about them is their community is insane. They are so good at bringing people together. They have this thing called camp toast where everyone goes to camp and they get to meet each other and do, um, all these different activities, little Rose. It sounds fun. I feel like we need that for the skinny confidential. But anyways, if you guys haven't checked out the morning toast, it's a morning show. Like I said, you can find it on YouTube and you can also find it on the podcast app. It's so funny and very relevant. Lots of celebrity news and the girls together are just the best team. And let me just say from the perspective of dear media and kind of being
Starting point is 00:11:24 on the other side of a network, those two ladies are doing it right. They've built a hell of a show, a hell of audience, hell of a community, and they're just getting started. So check them out. We love collaborating with them. Jackie is at JackieOProblems on Instagram and Claudia is at GirlWithNoJob. I'm sure you've heard of them. Without further ado, welcome to the show, Claudia and Jackie. Before we get into it with Jackie and Claude, we want to tell you guys about Peloton. All right. If you're like me, you don't like leaving your home to work out. This is why I am so freaking excited to tell you guys about the latest from Peloton. The tread is so innovative. The New York
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Starting point is 00:12:25 They have instructors. So you get to sweat with world-class instructors who are running or walking or stretching or training right by your side. I find that really motivating. And then they also have variety. So you're not repeating the same workout over and over again. The workouts you can get from this machine at home are honestly incredible. Lauren and I both love it. Our friend Khalil, who's been on this podcast, he loves it. If you're like us and you love working out from home and skipping the gym and the sweaty people in there, these machines are the answer for you.
Starting point is 00:12:53 They have an HD touchscreen, which is always fun. And then the best part is, is that you can see your progress. They say that progress is the opposite of depression. So I always like to see my progress in front of me. I think it's so important. And to have it all in one place is motivating. It's like a little bit of a little accountability coach right there, right at your fingertips. Exactly.
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Starting point is 00:13:46 and then code SKINNY. This is the SKINNY Confidential. Him and her. I'm seeing a lot of the Autry sisters, right? Did I tell you that? Oh yes, with Olivia. Did you see her? You spoke to her. I spoke to her, but I'm going to see her on Thursday. Oh, where?
Starting point is 00:14:02 She's doing this with a new company, DTX, and I'm going to one of the events over there with them They're doing some podcasts. Yeah You're very excited you keep talking about well. I'm just I'm excited. We know it's been a while And I'm excited to do this yeah Michael does this thing when he's in New York where he's like so busy And yes so many meetings you know what I mean. It's like all day long. I wore this vest today because The there's this whole thing going on this whole country You know patty going you makes like the the Wall Street vest all the tech guys were the best
Starting point is 00:14:31 And in the in the Wall Street today, they're saying that they can customize and so like say your company But what's happening is now they're pushing back and saying they're only gonna customize for like consciously Responsible companies and so all the guys are freaking out cuz you're gonna lose their custom Okay well taking away from your vest okay everyone wants to know You never know you know everyone wants to know you guys is beauty skin and wellness secrets and My audience and I know your audience is the same way, likes specifics. Yeah, which is tough because I just pretty much
Starting point is 00:15:10 forget to wash my face and I wake up and everything's fine. And I'm really blessed. And every now and then when I'm feeling really dirty, I'll wash my face and stuff with just whatever I find at the drugstore. But there's no regimen that I could do a swipe up for. It's honestly, just knock on wood, it's gene, genetic. We just have fine skin. Obviously, I got my problems, up for. It's honestly, just knock on wood, it's gene, genetic. We just have fine skin.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Obviously, I got my problems, but for the most part, it's just cross my fingers and hoping everything works out. You just wake up like this with even textured, glowy skin. Well, not like this, but a little uglier than this. Okay, well, what foundation are you wearing right now? Oh, I do IT Cosmetics. I love IT Cosmetics. Yeah, it makes me feel okay about wearing foundation.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yes, totally. Because people my age like to say foundations for old people. But it's not. Yeah, it makes me feel okay about wearing foundation. Yes, totally. Because people my age like to say foundation's for old people. But it's not. It's God's gift. It's God's gift. Once you discover foundation, it's a whole new world. And people who think they're too good for foundation. They're like, I don't need foundation yet.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I don't want to look cakey. I'm like, cakey? Don't you want to look human? Cakey, just don't get a cakey one. Yeah, right. Do you like the Illuminator or the regular one? Illuminator. So do I. I hate feeling like the Illuminator or the regular one? Illuminator. So do I.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I hate feeling like crunchy face. You know what I mean? I hate mattifying. Like how I look right now? No. I hate feeling like mattified products. That's why I'm a sweater and I feel like it's okay because it just looks like I'm glowing. I like the look of sweat.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Me too. Better than like a crunchy, matty look. I don't like that. I relate to this because yesterday I was wearing makeup. Yeah? He was. I'll back up a little bit. I had to go on this show on Yahoo right
Starting point is 00:16:25 after we saw you. Uh-huh. They put makeup on you? Yeah, because they said I was going to look like a glowy disco ball if not. You did look better with the makeup on. And then after it was all like crunching everywhere. Crusty. And I got a little weirded out. I'm like, whose face has this brush been on? Yeah, like the makeup that they use in like hair and makeup departments on TV is like not sanitary at all.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah. The guy looked at me, he's like, you need something under those eyes? I don't think so. He's like, no, you... Did they comb out your hair? You could have lice. He doesn't let anyone touch that hair. Are you fucking kidding me? No one's getting through that fucking hair. We're not going that far. Have you seen this hair? It's like a fucking helmet. It's not moving. It's a rough paste. If somebody threw a baseball at me, I'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Right. Is that like a... What is that? A gel? It's a rough paste by Redken. Get this. He doesn't like to shout it out because he doesn't want people to go run and buy it. Honestly, I might edit that out. I feel that. I totally feel that. No, you should buy stock and then give it a shout out.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yes. Oh, you mean like the huge package that arrived at our door the other day that had 40 rough pastes in them? I ordered in bulk at one time. It's like Costco of rough pastes. That's what my husband does with cologne. Ooh, cologne. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I don't know why. What kind? I think he's worried Prada, Luna Rosa. I think he's worried it's going to be discontinued. Like, it's not going anywhere. But you can also get it on eBay if it gets discontinued. But that's a luxury people who live in LA have. Like, we don't have that here.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You can't just stockpile. You can't just have cologne in the kitchen. I barely can fit all the toilet paper in my apartment. Wait, hold on. Your apartments look so cute on stories. They are cute. They're just have cologne in the kitchen. I barely can fit all the toilet paper in my apartment. Wait, hold on. Your apartments look so cute on stories. They are cute. They're just not large. They're cute.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I like that, though, because minimalism. Yeah, but it's also like, where do you put your stuff? That's an issue. And I'm not a minimalist. Me neither. I like stuff. I don't. We talked about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:18:00 By the way, talking about sparking joy, literally, I texted Zach right after. I was like, we need to clean the apartment. And if something doesn't spark joy for you, please get rid of it. And he was like, we'll talk about it when we get home. I was like, does it spark joy? I find the sparking joy to be problematic. And I know that's not a popular opinion. Why?
Starting point is 00:18:14 But here's the thing. I am like nuts. Like there's nothing in my house that doesn't need to be there. Like I really am so clean. Like I am a hoarder to the gods. Like Ben loves to keep every tissue from middle school. And he's like, it sparks joy. And I'm like, get it out. Ben is always looking for memorabilia. I'm like, sorry, iter to the gods. Like Ben loves to keep every tissue from middle school. And he's like, it sparks joy. And I'm like, get out.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Get it out. Ben is always looking for memorabilia. I'm like, sorry, it's in the trash. Like I don't keep anything. And I still have things in my house that don't spark joy. But I fucking need them. Right. Like what?
Starting point is 00:18:35 A vacuum. Yeah, a broom doesn't spark joy. Also, like I have this beautiful closet now that like has these beautiful like shoe walls. And I literally buy shoes like that I'm never going to wear. But that I like to see on the wall. It just fills out the wall and makes the wall look like I have this great collection of shoes, even though I wear the same shoes every day.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So that doesn't necessarily spark joy, but it makes the place look good. It's decorative. Okay, but can't we get a broom with a white matte handle that's sparking joy? Or a vacuum that's the best vacuum? I actually have a vacuum. I spend money on things that I hate,
Starting point is 00:19:02 and that does not spark joy. I have a vacuum that sparks joy. It's a little shark. Yeah, actually, my dust buster also sparks joy. I fucking love that thing. Yeah. I have been in a bit of a conundrum with this sparking joy thing, because there are things that spark joy to me that piss off my wife.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Like what? It's all relative. And so then she has to throw it away, and that's how she's sparking joy. I'm in a weird place here where if I'm, maybe it's sparking joy for me, but pissing her off, in which case it's. Like what? Where does the sparking joy fall when you have a roommate?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, what's up roommate? He got this thing from Doc Johnson that you masturbate with that's like, I don't even know how to describe this. Remember those things we used to play with that are like the. The weenies, to describe this. Remember those things we used to play with that are like... The weenies, yeah, of course. The jelly weenies.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So you jack off with this. We should give some context here before... Yeah, I don't want that on my bedside. Yeah, I'm with you. We interviewed the Doc Johnson founders, and they brought in a giant case of sex toys into my office. The office is full of them. We don't need the lightsaber.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's not sparking joy for me No, so that wasn't sparking joy. Nothing up my ass is sparking joy for me personally Oh, but it's our joy for you. It could spark joy for me, but this is the conundrum that I am You know what else doesn't spark joy for me for on the subject? The ring that this ring is not sparking joy for me in general. Tell them about the ring. No, no, no. This ring, it's not, I don't like it aesthetically, but it's for, it like keeps your heart rate and your sleep pattern and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Oh, so it doesn't work. No, it's like a Fitbit, but it's jewelry. I've heard of it. I don't like the watch, right? Because this is less, it's not, it doesn't look the best, but it's less. But it looks better than the other things I've seen. Like the bracelets. Yeah, or like a heart rate strap monitor. But it looks better than the other things I've seen. Like the bracelets. Yeah, or like a heart rate strap monitor.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm not doing that. This is like the most. You know what the worst is, though, is that I have to hear every fucking stat from him. It's like, oh, I slept 7.5 hours today and my heart rate's a little low. I'm like, I don't care. I know in like a month there's going to be some study about how those things give you cancer and all the stats are wrong. 100%. That always happens. I'm fucking stealing that ring. It's like a mood ring. Yeah, it's got to be some study about how those things give you cancer and all the stats are wrong. A hundred percent. That always happens.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I'm fucking stealing that ring. It's like a mood ring. Yeah, it's got to go. I think it's cool. I would do that. I like knowing where I'm at. That's why I have my planner. I like seeing like everything.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I started tracking my food. That was really hard. But if I had something that did it for me, I'd be into it. What did you track your food with? Let me look at my phone. Yeah, we need to know, like, you guys, like, the wedding. My fitness pal. Oh my god, the wedding.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I want to ask you guys something, because the first time we did this, it was the morning breath. Yes. Right? That was a long time ago. That was like over a year and a half ago, I think. And I use you guys, obviously, the Running Dear Media, I use you as an example all the time. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Are we getting checks in the mail? What are we examples of? Well, we got to get there. You're examples of what not to do. No. No. I use you as examples of how to, like when I talk to other podcasters, I said, this is exactly how you build community.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And I point a lot of time to you guys. So I think you guys have done an amazing job. But I want to talk about what that transition looked like because we live in a time where people are so quick to jump down people's throats and blame and say there's no room for basically there's not a room for. For error. Yeah, for error. No one can make a mistake and learn and grow.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Like you made a mistake and you're dead. Exactly. And like you see it more and more like it's happened with you guys, happened with James Gunn. They got him off. Now they're bringing him back on the Guardians of the Galaxy. You see it all the time. Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Kevin Hart. All this stuff. And I wanted to kind of get your opinions on it because I feel like you guys came having with James Gunn, they got him off, now they're bringing him back on the Guardians of the Galaxy. You see it all the time. Kevin Hart with the, all this stuff. And I wanted to kind of get your opinions on it because I feel like you guys came back even stronger. Like it was like back with Avengers. And with Pink. So, you know, I'm into it. It was all for the best. For the Pink.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And I like the name better. Yeah, the name is so much better. And now in hindsight, like everything happens for a reason and we're really like happy the way that things turned out. But like, we now have such a unique perspective. Like our job is to talk about things that happen in the media. In pop culture. And when things go on with Kevin Hart, everything happens for a reason and we're really happy the way that things turned out, but we now have such a unique perspective. Our job is to talk about things that happen in the media. Pop culture.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And when things go on with Kevin Hart, everyone's so quick to judge. And sometimes we say stuff that's not the most popular opinion, but it's like, just hold on a second. We went through something similar where everyone thought something of us, but that wasn't the case.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So maybe that's not the case with Kevin Hart. Let's take a second look. So I feel like we're better off human beings, but also commentators because of what happened and we have a more unique life experience that allows us to, you know, comment on what happens in the world in a more like knowledgeable way. And I think that if you talk to anyone like entrepreneurs, people in business, they always say the biggest lessons they learned came from their biggest failures. So you can't have growth without learning from past mistakes. And now like everyone wants to hold everyone
Starting point is 00:23:25 accountable which i think is really great and in certain instances is very very important but at the end of the day we're all human beings and as humans we are inherently flawed so part of being a human being you're gonna mess up your favorite celebrity is gonna say something that you don't agree with right can you forgive them can you move forward and like the way that people move forward or the way that we've moved forward what you're made of will determine your career, your future. Like if you, this is a tough industry to be in. If you want to talk all the time, if you want to, for us, we talk seven hours a week. In those seven hours, we're going to say something that's going to offend someone.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And live unedited. Right. I mean, that's unique. We don't have the luxury of cropping things out. And there are many things I would have loved to crop out these days. Face tune your podcast. Totally. But that holds us accountable, too.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's like we learn, and I think that what the toasters really like about the morning toast is how we picked up from a very public, awful mess and made do with it. And it wasn't ideal, but now the way in which you handle yourself in tough times, that says a lot about you, I think. Can you personally what it like what it was going through your minds what it felt like when when that was all going on I felt like I wanted to die and I thought for me It was like the world is over and I really like I couldn't handle like what was being said about me online And I couldn't put my phone away either
Starting point is 00:24:40 It's like I read everything every comment and it was so hard and I literally just wanted to die and I was like this industry is not for's like I read everything, every comment, and it was so hard. And I literally just wanted to die. And I was like, this industry is not for me. Like, I'm going to figure it out. Just like do something else with my life. Like, it is too tough out there. I thought I had thick skin. I obviously don't.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I don't want to work in this industry anymore. People are mean. I thought I could handle it. This is my time. Goodbye, everyone. I'm going to go become a CPA. And then what are you telling this to Jackie? And what's Jackie saying? I actually kept a lot of it in.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I couldn't talk without just screaming. Yeah. Yeah. For me, we both are very insular. But for me, I always just think and feel like this too shall pass. And I know that at the time, everyone said who was in our corner trying to make us feel better, they were like, this is for the best. Everything happens for a reason.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And it's easy to say when something terrible is happening. But it's so hard to see past the cloud of doom. But for me, all I kept thinking of was like, okay, what's the next step? Like just one step at a time. Like what are we going to do in the first week out? We're just going to heal. Right. We're going to apologize.
Starting point is 00:25:41 We're going to heal. We're going to learn from this, et cetera. Then the next week. The next week. Okay, now how are we going to come back? You know, you just take to apologize. We're going to heal. We're going to learn from this, et cetera. Then the next week, the next week. Okay, now how are we going to come back? You know, you just take everything one step at a time. You don't have, you shouldn't look. Today is actually the one year anniversary of our new show.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah, congrats. You shouldn't be looking to a year from now. Just like every day is a step forward. And like patience. I can't say it enough. Like this time heals so much. And in order for it to do that you have to be patient but like who hasn't made a mistake in life too i mean you know what i personally like about my community i
Starting point is 00:26:12 feel like your community is very similar is there's a non-judgmental situation like everyone just do you everyone has different life experiences like the people that listen to i'm sure you're shown ours like they live on all different sides of the world have completely different life experiences if you threw like a hot topic in, they wouldn't agree on anything, but they just come together in this like nice unifying way to talk about things that like common ground, like the Kardashians.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, I like, I love that subject. We can, I think we try to, Michael's more serious. I'm like, did you see Chris's new haircut? We try to all like create a space where it's like, you may not agree. Like for example, okay, we just had that, we were talking about all the sex toys
Starting point is 00:26:42 that came in with Doc Johnson. Like someone may listen to that episode and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is a lot. But at least it's interesting these audiences are receptive to like, okay, I'll look at that. I'll look at that perspective. Right, it's like an openness. It's very 2019. Yeah, I mean, I had to do this show yesterday, this live show, and it was just like so four-man and structured.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Terrible. You can't say this, you can't say that. I was like, this sucks. I don't want to do it. Yeah. No, we're definitely made for digital. And I think as a society, we're all sort of trying to figure out where we are going to shake out on this like politically correct discussion. So many people are so PC.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So many people are like anti-PC and, you know, say things just to say them. And so I think a big lesson for us has been like we always want to be irreverent and unfiltered and speak our truths. But like where where do we draw the line? Right. And I think every personality, every podcaster has to figure that out for themselves. And I think that this has forced us to. Right. Like the point of our show is only to be positive.
Starting point is 00:27:30 We're only trying to make people laugh, get through the day. Work days are long. It's terrible. All that stuff. So if at any point anything we ever say upsets someone, like that's not the goal. So we're going to own the fact that like we said something that upsets you and we're going to try and not do it again. I hate when people like upset people and refuse to acknowledge just that someone's upset. It's okay if you meant it or not,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but just acknowledge, I see that you're hurt, whatever. The point of our show is always to be positive, so if we're ever saying something that upsets a certain group of people or whatever, that's the antithesis of why we get up every morning. So we're gonna totally own and understand that we upset you and we'll apologize for it. As someone who does a lot of digital stuff
Starting point is 00:28:02 but also does a lot of comedy, it's tough because comedians are so like like, the point is to offend you. We're never going to apologize. Fuck, fuck, fuck, or whatever. Whereas, like, digital, it's the total opposite. Like, the second you say something out of line, it's like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:28:15 So it's a tough spot being in the middle because I see both sides. And I don't think either one of them are right. The comedy thing is difficult, especially for what you do. Because I was listening to a comedian speak the other day. And he's like, listen, nobody starts formulating jokes out of bad intention. They start to formulate because they think it will be funny. And it's okay to make fun of things that make you sad. It helps.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Well, I think it's the best cure. Yeah. But there's a line. People aren't setting out to offend. They think this could be a funny joke. Right. And it doesn't always land on you. I think you have to look at the intention, too.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What I think is kind of cool with what happened, like looking at the silver lining here, is that I feel like with what happened with you guys is it cut the fat. It made your diehard community stay strong with you guys and sort of go through it with you. Rally around you. That's really true.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Rally around you. And then it got rid of anyone who was maybe not- Doubter. Yeah. It cut them off. Yeah so that I always use that as an example because it really like I mean I'm watching your community in your Facebook group I told you guys this earlier it's it's such a cool community so that's it like cut it off the fat you know yeah before you know yes yeah you fucked up yeah no totally we are not missing Yahoo there With their 15 live viewers on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:29:26 They are just, I mean, we miss the resources provided. The hair and makeup you speak of. It was so stifling creatively. I mean, we couldn't launch merch because collecting people's data is against Yahoo's data policy. And the legal department has to come and talk to us. Because they've had major leaks. Yeah, the legal department had to come and talk to us every time we said something true. Like Dan Schneider is a child predator.
Starting point is 00:29:45 So just having the creative shackles being taken off, that has been a wonderful thing for us. I love your merch. Did Jackie tell you I have the... She has two shirts. You do? Why don't you tell us we give it to you for free, Lauren? No, no, no, no, no. I want to support.
Starting point is 00:29:57 We just bought also. I bought the gray sweater. Oh, the Sardi sweater. It's so cute. Really, I also bought it because it looks cute on my feed. You know, like the gray with the pink tone tone is that the mindset that you think of like when you just purchase stuff sometimes like i'm wearing red right now and i'm like not taking a picture yeah but this studio is also very dark so it's like not very lauren everett no the studio is
Starting point is 00:30:16 way too dark for me i have to be outside in natural light got it you know or i just discovered this thing it's like an aperture i have to send you guys the link. Okay, so I was at the Victoria's Secret fashion show. And do you guys know who Desi Perkins is? Yes. Okay, her husband was like, do you want a picture? Because I didn't have anyone to take pictures of me. Like everyone else. That's honestly so nice.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It's so relatable. It was so hard. That is hard. And that was really nice of him to offer. I know. I was like crying about it. So anyways, he goes, okay, I'll take a picture of you. And he pulls out this contraption.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's like this little light box. It filled in every line, wrinkle. And he held it above my eyeballs. Before we post this. I have to, I swear to God. Is it heavy? It's a little heavy, but who cares? No, it's so worth it.
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's worth a good light. I mean, nothing's better. Totally. I would take good light over good sex. Well, in that case, let's get some fucking lights. Let's get some sex toys. You've got to get it for nighttime. I'll send you the link.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I'll put the link in the show notes, too. We need it for Coachella. Oh, you need it for Coachella. That desert lighting. Oh, my God, I need that. Yeah, and the stagecoach lighting. I'm sure you're going to need the aperture. Totally.
Starting point is 00:31:24 What do you think made the toaster such investigative? I don't fucking know. Inspector Gadget. I don't know, because honestly, it's the scariest thing. Of the many groups, there's another group called the Toaster's Intelligence Agency, and their job is to solve cases. And if you ever find you or someone you know in a case, it is the worst thing to ever happen to you. It is so scary.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I'm going to them if you ever do anything shady, watch the fuck out they actually taught me about mr number do you have mr number no what's that i pay 25 a year for it and it's an app where because i get so many fucking phone calls and i've only recently decided to not answer any phone calls of numbers that i don't have saved and so what it'll do is you could just type the number in to tell you tell you who it's registered to i'm getting that yeah mr number yeah Number. Yeah. You know, people bring in, like, we interview people, you interview people, and they bring in, like, their PR teams. I'm sure you've seen this. And the PR team, like, sits there and they stare at you, like, better not
Starting point is 00:32:12 ask this. Listen, you can sit there, but I'm still going to ask what I've got to ask here. It's just going to make it awkward because you're going to be looking at me when I do it. But with you guys, I'm scared. I'm like, if I step out of line, the toasters are going to get me. Oh, big time. We don't need a publicist. You don't need anybody. You just got that whole investigative group. Wait, back to back to mr number i just want to tell a hilarious story about it because i love it so much and i literally do it for everything and i
Starting point is 00:32:30 got a 212 number and i didn't pick it up and i searched it and it said guy fieri agent and i was like what the fuck and i called it back and it was our agency but that's what they come up as flavor town usa yeah how funny is that i need to get mr number i know like immediately exciting calls like this well so no it's also just like one time oh my god i'll never forget the reason why i got this app is i was getting my eyebrows done and i got a number phone call from a 212 number and like obviously i pick it up 212 is new york it was a new york post oh my god i never hung up so fast in my life i was so afraid i didn't even know what the girl wanted but it was just great'm like, how the fuck did she get my number?
Starting point is 00:33:05 That's the last time I ever picked up the phone from a number I didn't have saved. I don't do numbers I don't know. No. It's usually an Uber too, or like sometimes Glam Squad calls. Yeah, but I've been getting like calls from Siberia. Anyone else?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Like every night I wake up with three calls from like Afghanistan. No. Yeah, I get the craziest Serbia, like everywhere. Like they're all spam? I guess. I'm downloading Mr. Number. Your number's in a database somewhere.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Somewhere. And it's so fucking annoying. Like all the time. It's like Provence is calling. Let's take a quick break to talk about one of my obsessions. White shoes. Anyone that knows me knows I am always wearing white shoes. There's something about them that's just like so flattering to the foot.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I don't know why. And I feel like they go with anything. Anyway, I literally wear them five times a week. And lately I've been wearing Rothy's. So remember those boat shoes that everyone had when they were little? You know what I mean? Like they're nautical. That's kind of what Rothy's look like, but they're so comfortable. You guys, I can't even tell you, you know, when you wear a pair of shoes for the first time and they're uncomfortable, Rothy's immediately will form to your foot. I'm always running late, so there's nothing better than a slide.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I like to slide on a shoe when I'm running out the door with my oatmeal in a bowl and like 500 bags. You know what I mean? Fun fact about Rothy's, Meghan Markle is also a huge fan. So if the princess wears them, we know that they are gold. Let's get specific here.
Starting point is 00:34:22 The ones that I got are, they're white slip-on, like I said, like the nostalgic boat shoe. They have other colors, but I like white, as you know. You can wear them with anything. You can wear them with skinny jeans, a legging, perhaps a sundress. They're very, very versatile. I literally have three pairs, like one upstairs and two downstairs, and I take them on trips all the time. What will really blow your mind though, is that they're made from recycled plastic water bottles and they're so soft. You feel good about wearing them. Rothy's has reached almost 20 million bottles recycled and a major bonus is they're machine washable. Check out all amazing styles available right now at rothys.com slash
Starting point is 00:35:01 skinny. Go to rothys.com that's R O T H Y S.com slash skinny to get your favorite new flats, comfort style and sustainability. These are the shoes you've been waiting for. Head to rothys.com slash skinny today. And let me know what you think of your new white shoes. Very fashionable. Okay. I have a question. Cause I was looking, I think it was your Instagram. It might've been girl with no job. One of them. And there was a picture of the concert hall. It looks like an opera hall that you're doing your, um, your show in. Yeah. Where it was, it was the most recent one and it looks, Oh, I posted a picture from Dallas. Okay. There's like the whole entire opera hall is filled with people. Oh yeah. That was for my Dallas show. How do you not shit yourself when you're on stage? Honestly, I'd like to live for
Starting point is 00:35:44 it. I crave attention. It's my dream. I like attention, too. Always when I go out, I'm a little nervous, and I'm always a little shaky. But I have the privilege of performing for people who already know who I am, as a relatively new comic, to be selling out to just people who love me. It's so easy. We're all just happy to be there.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So even if I just farted on stage, I feel like everyone would like it, I hope. So do you plan your jokes when you go out? Yeah, so it's like a 75 to 90 minute stand-up show. And I've been writing it for like a little over a year. And it's finally gotten good. And Jackie, you've obviously seen it. Yes, I've seen the beginning of it,
Starting point is 00:36:22 like the first show. I've seen middle shows. And I've seen most recently like two weeks ago in Connecticut. And that's really like, I don't think it's changed much in the last two weeks. Well, you know, us comedians. So do you like go to regular small comedy clubs and work on your material?
Starting point is 00:36:36 No, I really should do that and that's what people are always telling me because the best practice is like just fucking up. But I can't. Like I would rather die. Like it's so scary. And I don't know how you do that. That's that is the gnarliest job to me. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:49 For me, too. Me, too. I look at her and I'm just like, I could never. It's so brave. But by the way, that's what I always said. But you do it once and you like get hooked on the fact that like you say something that you created and that people laugh. And like that's what if people don't laugh, though?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Oh, I mean, that happens. And it's horrifying. Don't get me wrong. but you always just got to pick it back up yeah i find if i just do like a weird dance or say fuck a lot like people like you you get to know your audience and if i make any toast jokes like that's a great way for people just to start screaming so i've learned to my audiences and like how to and all i know what jokes land what jokes don't land and if a joke doesn't land i know what to do to kind of pick it back up and just make it more exciting if i sing people love it because i have like doesn't land, I know what to do to kind of pick it back up and just make it more exciting. If I sing, people love it because I have perfect pitch. So I know what works, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:29 But there's definitely a learning curve. Can you sing us like a little something? Yeah, I mean I do have a strep throat, but I don't feel like it'll hinder me. I'll take requests if you want. Shallow? Shallow, okay. I'm just gonna start from the ahs.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Of course, the chorus. This is, I sing this at my show too. It's just actually my favorite song. I'm off the deep end Watch as I dive in I'll never meet the ground Yeah, this trip has gotten to me a little. That was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Wow. Yeah, it's shocking. People think I'm joking all the time. I'm like, no, my voice is amazing. They're like, oh, she's so funny. I'm like, no, my voice is amazing. I think that my voice is amazing, too. Oh, same.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Please, I love hearing other people sing. I only have one song that I do, and I feel like it annoys everyone. We amazing. I think that my voice is amazing, too. Oh, sing, please. I love hearing other people sing. I only have one song that I do, and I feel like it annoys everyone. We sang last time. The Little Mermaid. It always comes down to us. It's a sing-off. It's always a sing-off, yeah. Please, please, please do it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Flipping your fins, you don't get too far. Legs are required for jumping, dancing. Strolling along on those, what do you call it? Street. Oh, I thought it was feet. Street. I thought it was street. Strolling along on your feet do you call it? Street Oh, I thought it was feet Street, I thought it was street Strolling along on your feet How dumb is she? Like, duh, street
Starting point is 00:38:51 Is it street or feet? Because wasn't she a mermaid? Oh, shit She's probably not in the street Oh, true, but she's also in the sea So she's Yeah, no I don't know
Starting point is 00:38:58 Easy lyrics Totally You should know that If you want to be married to me You should really know that Because I already got you Okay, can we talk about the royal wedding? Which one? Both Totally. You should know that. If you want to be married to me, you should really know that. Because I already got you. You're blocking me. Can we talk about the royal wedding?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Which one? Both. I feel like three are married out of four. Oh, I thought you were talking about the actual royal wedding. I was like, Megan's dress was ugly. I think that Jackie's wedding broke the internet. Surely. No, it did.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I could not believe. Me neither. I was like, God damn it. I missed out on my wedding. I got married in February. Where? The Pierre in New York. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So it was here. Tell us about the whole thing. The planning. Were you stressed? Unbelievably stressed. I don't know that there was a bride who was more stressed than I was. I don't know if there was a bride who enjoyed the planning process less than I did or who was less equipped than I was. Totally. When we started planning a wedding, I didn't even know there's a bride who enjoyed the planning process less than I did or who was Less equipped than I was totally started planning a wedding
Starting point is 00:39:48 I didn't even know how to get like my head my hands around it sighs Venues New York is so crazy to have a wedding here, but also having a destination wedding is crazy, too So right and half your people were coming from out of town, which just adds a whole other layer So I picked the devil I knew better than the devil I did I totally agree so the New York was the devil. We had so many guests that there are only so many venues in New York that can accommodate those guests which actually made the choice really easy.
Starting point is 00:40:12 We wound up ending up at like 375. Oh my God. It didn't feel like that many people. No, honestly. And the whole time I was so nervous it was going to be too many people. And I didn't even care. People are like, I don't want to see anyone. I don't know. I mean, I don't care. If anyone wants to come celebrate me, you're so welcome. But it was just like, it was becoming just so overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Like 375 people need to eat. Like this is Fyre Festival. I need to eat sandwiches, you know? And you did so many outfit changes, which is stressful. That didn't stress me out because I didn't make that decision until the week before. And the decision made me. Because I got my dress back in August, and I felt so great about it.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I never wanted to change a lot of times, because as much as I'm so extra, I'm not trying to be. So I always knew I would change into something comfortable for the after after party, but it wouldn't even matter what it was. Then the week before my wedding, we were going to the Amphar Gala, and so I was online looking for dresses,
Starting point is 00:41:03 and I ordered a bunch of dresses online, and I found this one dress that was a beautiful white dress. I was like, you know what, I'm getting married in a week, I could wear a bridal type dress. If anyone can wear a wedding dress before their wedding, it's a bride. And I was like, I'll get my picture taken in this dress. So I ordered it, it didn't come in time
Starting point is 00:41:19 because I ordered it two days before. So it came three days after the event, and I tried it on just because I had a ball gown in my apartment. And I put it on and it fit like a glove. Didn't need a hem. It had a hoop skirt, so it went out. I got to show this to Michael while you're talking. It didn't matter how tall you were because the hoop skirt just ended where you ended.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Everything fit perfectly. It didn't need a stitch, hem, nothing. And I was like, this is a wedding dress and I have to wear it. I can't send this dress back. I felt like Cinderella, like a fairy godmother just delivered a dress on my doorstep. So I decided that I would change mid-wedding. And when I realized that, I was like, you know what? That's actually very me.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah. I was shocked that you hadn't brought it up sooner. I just didn't want to give myself more work. How on earth? My question was this. When I was dealing with my wedding, I only had 50 people. There's so much happening. How did you like this feed?
Starting point is 00:42:06 She literally designed her whole wedding around Flo. But how do you have time to like post captions? Like, look at Michael. The captions, actually, once the captions. This was posted in like real time? No, that was like the week. Over the course of the next week, I posted 30 photos because my wedding photographer, Anthony Vasquez, is unbelievably in tune with what's necessary.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah. And I told him. I agree. Anthony Vasquez did a pretty tune with what's necessary. Yeah. And I told him. I agree. Anthony Vasquez did a pretty goddamn good job. Yes, I did. I did procure his talent at my wedding and then all my sisters stole him from me. But I just want credit because I got him first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He like knew exactly what I wanted. And I said to him, I wanted to be the first person to post a picture. That was really important to me because obviously like I was planning my wedding in real life and I was planning it on Instagram too. I didn't even know what was to come on Instagram. But just for my own feed, I didn't want anyone to post their picture of me in my wedding dress before me. Mostly because I'm thirsty, and I didn't want people going to that person's wedding. Getting the likes.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I wanted them to come to my beach. I wanted to get followers out of my wedding. Like, this was an expensive endeavor. The least I can do is get some followers. Maybe write it off. Totally. Totally. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I haven't done that yet, but it's not a terrible idea. It's not. This was a business endeavor. And so I told Anthony, I was like, I want to post a photo right before I walk down the aisle. As bridesmaids are walking, I will post on Instagram because my guests won't be on Instagram, but everyone else will be. So when my guests Instagram me, mine will have comfort. So they were ready. I chose a picture 20 minutes before my aisle walk.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They edited it. They sent it to me. And so I was able to post that right before I walked down the aisle. And then I had peace of mind all night. I never checked my phone once again. I was like, I have the picture. I'm racking in the likes. And I wasn't on my phone at all. And I told my wedding designer and my wedding planner like they could story there. I found them like they do a lot of work on Instagram. So it's like, you know, they they get the game. And I had no clue what they were posting throughout the night. I was just like smiling for everything. And I was just so in it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I didn't really know what it looked like from the outside. And then the next day I was able to watch all these stories. I had no clue like that this was really so there was so much content on the Internet. But for me, it was like I got to relive it over and over again. And I loved it. Like I feel like so many people you would think you want your privacy blah blah but i had my privacy like in the moment i didn't know all of this stuff was going on you want to share with your community right and now and i didn't plan
Starting point is 00:44:14 for it to be like so exposed or whatever like i mean it was bigger than the royal wedding i've never seen anyone and this is a truly a compliment like i've never seen anyone get married and Think so far like like everything was planned so right for instagram thank you yeah i was Like going back to my feed and i was like wow i can totally there's a lot of i mean i think didn't at our wedding Lauren made everyone like check their cell phones and then also Make an announcement saying no phones. I did the same thing because I was like, I want no photos during the ceremony.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I want no sounds. I want you to be able to have a pin drop. I want it to be dead serious. And I told my rabbi when you get to the podium, make sure everyone put no photos or photography or videography, whatever. So when I did my walk down the aisle, I'm walking, I'm just in and I'm just looking at Zach down the aisle. When I get to the front, I'm walking, I'm just like in and I'm just looking at
Starting point is 00:45:05 like Zach down the aisle. And when I get to the front, he was like, I haven't been able to make the announcement yet. And I was like, okay, just make it now. And I'm also like, if there's a problem, I'm not gonna trust about it. Make the announcement now, not a problem. But now in hindsight, I'm like, I'm so glad that
Starting point is 00:45:18 so many people took videos of me down the aisle and I did this like silhouette with my wedding dress and like this little wave and I turned out people, I made people laugh. And I read it. Oh my God, it was so funny. I was dying. Okay, so right before she walked down the aisle, like right where she was standing
Starting point is 00:45:31 at the beginning of the aisle, it wasn't her. There was like a white silk screen and you saw her silhouette. Like Project Runway. Yeah, and it was like this actual just like moment of silence and then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:45:39 Jackie just waves to everyone in the silhouette and it was so funny because it was like this serious shit moment. It was fucking iconic. It was so funny. We were dying. so you're right i'm so glad people got it on camera i want to get married again yeah god but it's like if i could do it all over again like i really would hide like i still would have loved to have like what you had a small like destination wedding that caused you no stress because the six months before planning it like were unbelievable i mean it caused me stress i blacked the six months before planning it were unbelievably stressful. I mean, it caused me stress. I blacked out the night before and
Starting point is 00:46:07 punched Michael in the face. Punched Michael in the face. But also pain because you're trying to be real skinny for your wedding and you're fucking hungry. And it's one drink and you're dead. That's a hard ride to walk. Being skinny, being drunk,
Starting point is 00:46:23 not being too drunk, eating some because you need energy and you don't want to. Being personable, some charisma. Do you guys remember that movie Congo? Eating enough so that your breath isn't deadly. We don't want a deadly breath. Such a good call. I had mints at my wedding and I was like, they were for the guests and I was in all
Starting point is 00:46:38 night because my breath was like keto. So you got to throw a lime in there. Yeah. That's the trick to bad breath. When you're talking to someone, you eat a lime. She came to me and said, okay, I'm going to to sleep for the night like enjoy the rest of the evening with your friends have fun with my friends it's a trick it's a trick it was like idiot it was a trap and she left and i was like cool i'm like hanging out i love traps by the way me too the reason i bring
Starting point is 00:46:59 up that you're a trap queen toasty traps you know well if you didn't see congo there's like these things where these silverback gorillas are attacking these guys that are in the jungle. And the leaves and the bushes are shaking. And that means the gorillas are there and they're jumping in. I look over and I kid you not, it was like Lauren in the bushes, like shaking through the trees. And I was wearing a gold dress with a tight ponytail. So it was very Sharon Stone Casino.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Also, a ponytail fucks with your head. It pulls too tight. It rejiggers your organs. What's that girl, JoJo? Siwa. Yeah, she has headaches, for sure. It rejiggers your organs. What's that girl, Jojo? Siwa. Yeah, she has headaches, for sure. It's such a headache. There was so much happening.
Starting point is 00:47:29 She ran up to me dead seriously and said, I can't believe you fucking left me. And I was like, you are the one that just left and told me to stay here and leave. It was really, it was really bad shit. Yeah, you know it's a good sign when you're fighting on your wedding weekend. Yeah, it was great. And then I decided, because the light wasn't right for our pictures, that we needed to reshoot the entire wedding. So when we got back, I
Starting point is 00:47:50 made my entire family. Honestly, that doesn't make me feel bad, because I am now reshooting my wedding pictures, because I got my neck done, and I just feel like I look so much better now than I did at my wedding. What do you mean you got your neck done? Kybella? Okay, so fuck Kybella. It doesn't work, and it's extremely painful. I agree. I'm so glad you just said that. Don't do Kybella, guys. I was going back and forth, like, I want Kybella, I want Kybella? Okay, so fuck Kybella. It doesn't work, and it's extremely painful. I agree. I'm so glad you just said that. Don't do Kybella, guys.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I was going back and forth. I want Kybella. I want Kybella. For as long as I've been alive, I've had a double chin. And at any weight, I really love the way that I look. I'm extremely confident, and I love myself. But my fucking chin bothers me. It does, and I don't want to accept that flaw. I don't know why I have to.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Society tells me to love your flaws. I don't love it. So I got... It's not sparking joy. It's not sparking joy. My chin was not sparking joy. Exactly, Michael. So I was like, I heard about Ky kybella i asked a bunch of people a couple of my friends got it i heard like mixed reviews but as far as i knew it was like the only thing on the market for
Starting point is 00:48:32 a double chin surgery removal so i went to my doctor our doctor dr sharon gizzi because jackie and i were like gonna get botox and we're like okay who is a person in new york that looks amazing let's find their doctor so we found ramona Singer's doctor. And we fucking love her. And I just like, I'm obsessed with her. She changed our lives. She changed our lives. So I went in and I was telling her, I'm like, I want to do Kybella.
Starting point is 00:48:49 My friend got it. I heard it's really painful. I have a very, very, very low tolerance for pain. She was like, do not do Kybella. I do not recommend it. I'm like, okay. She has this surgery called the natural neck lift that she patented.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's basically like outpatient liposuction. So you don't have to get anesthesia. They just give you like a shot of Valium and they take a needle in through your earlobe and literally suck all the fat out of your chin, but then also out of your jowls, because when you gain weight, your face gets fat and then like sags your face down. But once you remove the fat from your jowls, the elasticity in your skin will bring your face back up. So I was like, sign me up. And it was very expensive, but I didn't care. It was like truly the best. I'll tell you later. I'm actually embarrassed. Yeah. It was like, it was very expensive but I didn't care. It was like truly the best. How much? I'll tell you later.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Like I'm actually embarrassed. Okay, okay. It was like a lot of money. It's your face. Yeah. It's your face. It's my face. So I went and I was like.
Starting point is 00:49:33 It's your livelihood. It was right before I started my tour and she was like didn't have any availability. I'm like Sharon, you have got to get me in. So literally I went the next day and I am like very, very, very low tolerance for pain. Like I can't even take baths too hot. And massages, I literally start crying.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I have a very weird body. And so I told her. And I also have a weird thing with drugs. I don't smoke weed. I'm very paranoid. I always have an adverse reaction to drugs. If a drug is supposed to calm you down, I will have a panic attack. And I was having a lot of anxiety about the Valium.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I've never taken Valium. And I'm like, Sharon, I'm telling you, I can't take this drug. She was like, oh, please. Everyone probably says that. So she gave it to me. And I remember sitting in the chair before going into the room and I was like being drunk like Olivia was taking funny videos of me and the second I lay down like I came back to life and I felt everything and I was screaming at the top of my lungs and if you at Jackie were you there no oh I think Olivia was there and she heard me like
Starting point is 00:50:19 literally screaming from the surgery room um but what was crazy is like I was completely numb so I didn't feel anything I just heard everything and I guess like with the drugs I got like so paranoid that I was literally just screaming at the top of my crazy is like I was completely numb. So I didn't feel anything. I just heard everything. And I guess like with the drugs, I got like so paranoid that I was literally just screaming at the top of my lungs like that. I was in pain even though I wasn't. How long did it take? The surgery took like 30 minutes. So wait, hold on. And then I had the chin strap and everything.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I have a hundred questions. Yeah. You're laying there or are your eyes open? Were my eyes open? I feel like they were open and closed because I remember seeing Dr. Gizzi. She was talking about her dogs. I remember like hearing what she was saying. But then also just closing my eyes for
Starting point is 00:50:47 my own. So it takes 30 minutes. You're laying there. Yeah. And you said it doesn't hurt. You can just hear. So, I mean, when she numbed me, that's what hurt. Like when they shoot you with the Novocaine. I don't know. Did you notice a difference the second you got up? Well, so I was so swollen
Starting point is 00:51:03 that it looked the same. And I was like, what the fuck? I was so pissed. I'm like, Sharon, I look the same. And then notice a difference the second you got up? Well, so I was so swollen that it looked the same and I was like, what the fuck? I was so pissed. I'm like, Sharon, I look the same. And then I wore that chin strap thing for like two weeks and then when I went in for my, um, what's it called? Like first checkup, I noticed a huge difference and then I just started to like, it just started to become
Starting point is 00:51:20 my life. And then when I went in for my three month checkup, she took pictures and that's when I was like, oh my God. And I have the before picture and that's when I was like oh my god and I have the before picture and it's such a great like side by side that I've been wanting to post on Instagram but like I just hate the before picture so much that like I literally can't get myself to post the after picture. Please post it. I mean I'll show
Starting point is 00:51:36 you but I just like I hate that picture so much. I was also just looking so ugly that day. You notice a huge difference. Oh my god if you look at old pictures of her it's like she has really a new face. It looks like she got major work done. Yeah. Let me find you the picture.
Starting point is 00:51:50 The chin and the Botox. Well, you know what? What it does too, I feel like, is when you have like a bigger area down here, because you know my whole jaw drama, it takes the eye down instead of up. So when you're looking at someone and they're swollen here, they're looking down as opposed to up so it drags your face and I don't want anyone looking down on me yeah Michael knows he's getting Botox on Friday where yeah don't act don't act confirmed doctor Dennis gross have you gotten it yet I've done it twice oh okay where do you do it I only do like he
Starting point is 00:52:20 does five units I'm not a big what What is five units? When we do it, we split one. Then you probably do, I would say, 15 or 20 units each. Hey, look at us. Where do you get it? Dr. Dennis Gross. No, like on your face. Oh, he just hits my forehead. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah, because if not, I could use this thing as a sleep mask. It just falls down. Yeah, a little brow lift. Do you know what I mean? Okay. All right, so I want to talk about Camp Toast. Oh, yes. You have to come.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I want to come. Tell me all about it. It sounds like it's better than Coachella for me. Oh, for sure. Well, Jackie and I always used to talk about on the podcast how much camp affected us as women, as human beings. We loved camp. We went to camp our whole lives.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And then it dawned on us that a lot of our listeners didn't go to camp. And I guess it's like a Jewish thing that people go to camp. I didn't really go to camp. You didn't. Kind of. It's a Northeast thing, yeah. So when people were like, what is camp, what is camp? We were like, we need to show everyone what camp is but make it better because there's
Starting point is 00:53:10 so many things about camp that are so fun but like when you're a kid being like governed by counselors like who think that they have too much power, like it's not that fun. But if you're getting to do it as an adult where there's like a bar but also going jet skiing, like that's so fun. Is it men and women or women? It's both. It's both. Yeah, it depends like on the situation. Like we have a lot of different bunks so we can like switch. People can have their own or women? It's both. Yeah, it depends on the situation. We have a lot of
Starting point is 00:53:25 different bunks so people can have their own bunks if they wanted them. But it kind of started as a joke and then we were like, okay what if we actually did it? And we looked into it. We rented our old campground so we were working with the people that used to go to camp with us. Counselor us at camp.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Totally. And we realized it was very much a possibility like this is what we would need we put out feelers in the toasters group like if we really were to put this on like would you guys be interested and we got a lot of positive feedback we're like fuck it we're going to camp yeah no and we threw it together last year like in a matter of two months we only we did it with 75 girls and they were like pioneers like they paid for the ticket they did not know what they were getting into and it ended up being like the most lit fun amazing weekend inspiring empowering totally i heard a rumor what if this is true i'm gonna die i wonder what i don't know where i read this it might have been
Starting point is 00:54:14 in the group it was somewhere okay that you guys do that the camp is where heavyweights was filmed no but you have the okay why did i think that? Did I dream that? No, because when we were kids, we went to weight loss camp. No, you didn't. Yes, we did. And this was the camp that we went to as kids, and these are the grounds where... So it wasn't filmed... And they filmed MTV's fat camp at this camp. Oh, yeah. Okay, but didn't you guys do
Starting point is 00:54:37 the heavyweights... What's that thing called? The blob. No, there's no blob. No, I wish. We need a blob. Wait, you need a pink blob? Blobs are expensive, but we need to get one. I feel like we should up the tickets $1. Totally. To contribute for a blob. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Go fund me. Go fund me for a blob. And you could get an Instagram handle called Toasty Blob. The blob. Yeah. Yeah. I'm down. I think you need a blob.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Okay, so it's not heavyweights. No. Okay. It's inspired by heavyweights. What was fat camp like? Amazing. It was so amazing. You would actually love it. You would love it inspired by heavyweights. What was fat camp like? Amazing. It was so amazing. You would actually love it.
Starting point is 00:55:07 You would love it. You would love it. We should go this summer for one week. It's like what I imagine rehab is. Right. What do you do? It's regular summer camp. For people who have been to camp, you wouldn't really know a huge difference.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Really, the main difference is a lot of people are overweight. All of the meals are portioned out, so you don't serve yourself. They serve you. And honestly, for girls, it's like a 1600 calorie a day diet, which is really a lot because you're doing so much activity. There's like one workout every morning, but it's like Zumba, aerobics, boot camp. Like it's if now you would appreciate it so much.
Starting point is 00:55:38 It's just like wellness camp. No wine though. No. But at Camp Toast, there's wine. Yeah, lots of it. It's for kids, Lauren. Yeah. Right. Oh. For kids. Toast, there's wine. Yeah, lots of it. It's for kids, Lauren. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Oh. For kids. I mean. Camp counselors might be getting a little trouble serving all the little kids. Totally. Well, there is like, I don't want to call it fat camp, because I don't know if that's what it's called, but in LA, they have like wellness retreats. Weight loss camps.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I want to do, I want to try Teddy Mellon camps all in. Oh my God, yes. Because Tanya Rad does does it and she looks so good everyone says that everyone says that when they do it they it's like amazing i love teddy melon camp but i also heard you get like 100 calories a day are you serious no not like 100 but like none oh i don't i can't that's true it seems restrictive if i can't do 100 calories a day michael would kill me i would love to be the biggest bitch in the history of the universe. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I love to eat, too. I love a good piece of sourdough with a Kerrygold butter. I also just love a pasta. If I lived here, well, I don't know, because of the walking. Have you guys ever had the pasta at Scalino Telly? Yes. Of course. We invented Scalino Telly, okay? Oh, I said the wrong name.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Lauren says it with such authority every time she says it wrong. No, you made it even more Italian. Scalino Tella, okay? Oh, I said the wrong name. Yeah. Lauren says it with such authority every time she says it wrong. No, you made it even more Italian. Scalino Telly. Wait, have you tried the truffle pasta? No, every time I'm there, I get the panella vodka. It's fucking crack. I've never had that one. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:56 You have to go back and they cook it. We're going to go there on Friday. They cook it at the side of the table. Okay, what are three other restaurants that we need to go to? You have to go to Scalino. For pasta? No, I love Italian. Gemma is so good in the Bowery Hotel. And it's Italian, but it's also a little healthier. You could be healthy there if you have to go to no for well i like i love italian gemma is so good in the bowery hotel
Starting point is 00:57:05 and it's it's italian but it's also like a little healthier like you could be healthy there if you wanted to okay but you by no means have to be what about um mamo have you heard of mom no okay no but we're not like huge foodies like we go where we like and like we don't need to try new things right i go to the same five restaurants scarpetta okay we're going there friday for lunch no that's oh for lunch uh bond street sushi is. Bond Street Sushi is fantastic. No, I went there last week, and it was so sad. And the only redeeming quality was that Nina Agdal was there. But the food was bad.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It's fantastic. And it wasn't even bad food. It was like the way that they were making it. I had tuna tartare, which is my favorite thing. Obsessed. They're going to be devastated when they tune into this episode. The only way I could not like a tuna tartare is if the fish is bad. But it was like the fish was fresh and it was so weird.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I couldn't have more than two bites. It was like waxy and was leaving a really weird aftertaste in my mouth. That's all I'm saying. But there was nothing wrong with it other than the way that they make it. Have you guys had sushi seki? S-E-K-I. No. Seki.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It's Michelin star. It's fantastic. Very expensive. Serafina. Okay. You guys have Serafina in LA? No. You don't?
Starting point is 00:58:04 No. The restaurants here are better. I think. Oh my God. But I thought Serafina. Serafina has Okay. You used to have Serafina in LA? No. You don't? No. The restaurants here are better, I think. Oh my God, but I thought Serafina, Serafina has now become like a popular chain. Yes. But I thought they had one in LA, they don't? A lot of influencers shoot there. It's the best fucking restaurant. I hope they eat while-
Starting point is 00:58:14 And while we were young, they all shoot there. And they don't eat there. I hope they eat while they're there. So what do you guys think? You think the toasters are going to accept me? Into the group? No, maybe just like- Into their hearts.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Into their hearts. I think so. Into their hearts and lives. Totally. No, they're very open. Until you cross them, they will like you. Guilty. I've crossed a lot of people in my time.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I don't think I'm going to cross them. No, I think it would be a very wise decision not to. Okay, I can't- We can't leave until you guys give us some beauty and skin. Okay. I'm sorry, people- I think we need some beauty and skin because, you know- And we're definitely genetically blessed because like acne is something that we don't really
Starting point is 00:58:42 knock on wood, struggle with. But like I do get a pimple, a series of pimples. my skin gets better or it gets worse i don't see pimples for me the two things that i just adhere to are hydration and cleanliness like i keep my skin clean as much as i can when i'm not wearing makeup the minute i get home i take my makeup off and i wash my face or a shower in general um when i feel my skin getting bad, like it's annoying as hell, but I drink a bottle of water, I clean my face, and I just lather up on moisturizer. I try to like change up my moisturizers every six months
Starting point is 00:59:11 because I start to feel like my skin and body get immune to certain things. Like they expect a lotion to come on, so I'm going to hit them with a harder lotion. Or they expect the hard lotion, and I'm going to hit them with like a light serum. Okay. So some of my favorite products or beauty lines are Kopari.
Starting point is 00:59:28 We talked about this yesterday on the toast. I fucking love Kopari. Love Kopari. SkinCeuticals. Obsess the CE that smells like hot dogs. Does it? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:59:38 I love a sheet mask, but I don't, I'm not brand specific. It's basically like whatever I get free or whatever. Sometimes I sell them at CVS. I just like put'm not brand specific. It's basically whatever I get free or whatever. I sometimes I sell them at CVS I just like putting something on my face But the one mask that I love that I actually go out and buy is the L'Oreal clay mask in the green color I don't know what it's like that mask I know you're talking about I love I try to do it when I really like after a long trip when I feel like shit like I put it on 15 minutes before I shower and then I wash it off in the shower
Starting point is 01:00:01 And I really feel a difference smart to wash it off in the shower and I really feel a difference. Smart to wash it off in the shower, I like that. Because I hate washing my face in the sink. You make such a mess in the sink. I would rather take a shower, even if I showered right before I went out and I get home, I have to take my makeup off, I'd rather just shower again instead of having to splash that new Shadeena. Yeah, because then it gets all of them coming.
Starting point is 01:00:17 For you to use that strategy, you have to actually shower. Yeah, I'm not the biggest shower. Me neither. You know what, I shower, like probably, you know, I don't wash my hair. No, me neither, I'm now on like a once a week hair thing and like a four times a week body shower. Me neither. You know what? I shower like probably you know, I don't wash my hair. No, me neither. I'm now on like a once a week hair thing and like a four times a week body shower. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I would love if I could like just have someone shower me. We talked about this before. I couldn't anymore. I find showering to be like the most annoying thing ever. Like I have a very busy life. I do not have time to shower. Next time you're in LA, tell me because there's this Korean bathhouse that you go and you lay on the table naked and they scrub every crevice up your butthole.
Starting point is 01:00:47 While you're here, while you're here, okay, I don't get the butthole thing, but at Oasis Spa, they do a salt scrub and it's like a really like a bath, like you lay there. Your whole spray tan will come off. Yeah, well, so that's what I do at the end of a spray tan. Smart. To exfoliate. It is heaven. It's kind of like a shower, right?
Starting point is 01:01:00 And they shower for you. And I sometimes tell her, I'm like, yeah, do my hair. Yeah. Yeah. When you're living life with a spray tan, you can't shower as much. No one gets it. Right. So when I don't have a spray tan, which is most of the time, like I shower all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I remember Margo and I were talking, it was either this weekend or last weekend, where she was like, I haven't showered since Thursday night. And I was like, in the time since you last showered, I've showered five times. No. See? I can't shower because of my spray tan. When I was in high school, I used to shower and wash my hair every single night. Michael showers twice a day.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I only wash my hair twice a week, though. Right, because then it's like I don't shower once. I miss one shower, and my hair is greasy grilled cheese. So now I've kind of taught my hair. My hair could go a month now. I won't get oily. Yeah, that's the trick. You've got to teach the hair.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yeah, you shower way too much, man. You're in there with that weird. But boys do that, and I think it's okay. Really? Yeah. Whenever Ben showers, I'm like, you shower way too much, man. You're in there with that weird. The boys do that, and I think it's okay. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Whenever Ben showers, I'm like, you're so hot. I just love when he showers.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Michael showers 80 times a day. You are a little bit weird with the showers. That's how you should be talking about me, Rowan. It's so hot when you shower, it turns me on. Okay, so just so you know, I found out a couple people'd me, that the microbeads in the St. Ives are not plastic. Plastic anymore. They were plastic until 2014.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Ew. And now they've switched to walnut flakes, which is still really bad for your skin. Oh, really? Yes. So it's still really bad. I saw on the Twitter site it's not plastic anymore. I was like, phew. Oh my God, no, I love a microbead.
Starting point is 01:02:22 No, you don't, because it's rough on the skin. I don't know why. I thought it was just like a bubble. You like the right microbead. No, you don't, because it's rough on the skin. I don't know why. I thought it was just like a bubble. You like the right microbead. It's bad for the environment. Ugh, the ocean. Why is fish swallowing microbeads? Everything is bad for the ocean.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Ariel. Ariel. Ariel. Ariel. How do you guys feel about straws? You know what? I really like... Oh, girl.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Let's get controversial. I really like a silicone straw just because I like... I feel like I'm doing good and I also just like it on my teeth. I don't like the plastic on my teeth. I'll tell you what I don't like. I don't like those little paper straws. Paper. Terrible. Trash. Here's my thing with this.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I get that everyone wants to switch out the straws to paper or silicone. I'm so for that. I'm about it. But then everyone's drinking coffee out of a plastic cup and with a plastic lid. The thing is that we use plastic so much and we definitely need to start using less plastic. And I just wish as a society
Starting point is 01:03:14 we could start with something less useful. Straws are a big part of my life and I'm not ready to give them up yet. But you know what I am ready to give up? Those little plastic holders for beer cans. Yeah, I'm ready to give those up too. And even fucking water bottles. There are so many other plastic items that take up more space and that use more plastic
Starting point is 01:03:29 that I'm ready to get rid of. I would like straws to be the very last thing we get rid of. I want everyone on this show to know that if someone hands me a straw in a restaurant, I am using the straw. I'm not. I'm fine. I'm part of the problem right now. Me too.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I can't straw. I am the problem. I'm one person. Happily. I'm not using the straw. Because you wear lipstick. I'm not using the straw. If you use lipstick, you can use straw. Someone will DM me. They're like, oh, you're using a straw. I don't am the problem. I'm one person. Happily. I'm not using the straw. Because you wear lipstick. I'm not using the straw.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Someone will DM me, they're like, oh, you're using a straw. I don't need the straw. By the way, it's like crazy. Like now a straw on your Instagram is like, she uses straws. No, it's, I get DMs about things. The other day someone DMed me about having a water bottle at the airport. But I said, how can I bring my water, my hydro flask through the airport? They want a lot. You don't have to explain yourself.
Starting point is 01:04:04 On the plane, I was sitting on the plane, and this lady behind me starts yelling at the flight attendant, because in Delta, first class, they give you all mini Dasani waters, and she was like, who can I talk to? Because they have a big Dasani, and if they just poured it into cups,
Starting point is 01:04:16 I guess that would be more useful than giving everyone their own individual. And it was like, this poor flight attendant, she doesn't make the decisions. It was so terrible. And then if you think about it, okay, you're using the big plastic to put in little plastic cups.'s the same shit they need to go to the source here because listen if it's already been made and it's already there and it's already in front of me i'm going to use it if they
Starting point is 01:04:32 if they stop if they find a better way to do it i'm all for doing that okay i i have a controversial statement okay because when people started hating plastic i was like oh my god yeah i hate plastic too like everyone hates plastic. And I'm thinking, I'm like, plastic is evil. Plastic is dangerous. Plastic has toxic chemicals that ruin our body. And then I'm like, okay, wait, what's the problem with plastic? And everyone's like, it ends up in the ocean.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Okay, that's a problem that everyone has and that's why we want to stop using it. I'm like, okay, so wait, how is it ending up in the ocean? Humans. We are the problem. So plastic itself isn't inherently evil. It's the fact that it's ending up in the oceans by human error. So we're the problem. Why don't we find a better way to dispose of plastic instead of just getting rid of plastic altogether? That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I never thought about that. Right, because you just think like Adrian Grenier has taught us like plastic is evil. It's not evil. It's just the way it ends up and ends up killing turtles in the ocean. That's sad. But why don't we figure out a way to not get it in the ocean? That makes a lot of sense. I mean, I have read studies, and I don't know if this is true, and I'm sure people will
Starting point is 01:05:27 DM me if this is true or not. Causes cancer? No, that it disrupts your hormones. Oh. So when you're drinking out of a straw in a plastic cup, it's disrupting your hormones. And that's another reason why I like the straws. The straws I like, the brand that's great is Softie Straws. Right, but if I'm drinking out of a straw, and I know that it's fucking with my hormones,
Starting point is 01:05:46 that's my decision. And if I want that, that's fine. But it's not the turtle's decision to die from a straw through the nose. So that I understand. But I feel like we should be putting our efforts more towards figuring out how to get plastic out of the ocean. That seems like a more realistic feat than just getting rid of plastic altogether, because people rely on plastic.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Totally. People rely on straws. I mean, for me, it's a luxury. But a lot of people who are disabled, they need straws. Old people need straws. I don't want to call you guys out, but on this table, there are three plastic bottles of water, and I do not own any of them. It is not mine. Well, listen, if there's
Starting point is 01:06:12 one thing for certain, we're definitely going to need the toasters to get our backs out. Totally. Guys, we're going to need to rally around us, make sure that plastic is very controversial. I do have to say, your chin looks really good. Thank you. Like, honestly, it was a long journey, and I feel really proud of it. Michael is so sick of hearing the word chin and jaw. He's going to blow his Thank you. Like, honestly, it was a long journey, and I feel really proud of it. Michael is so sick of hearing the word chin and jaw.
Starting point is 01:06:28 He's going to blow his head off. No, but it's an important feature. It's an important feature, Michael. Maybe that'll be my next tattoo, a little jawbone or something. Yeah, that'd be cute. Yeah, that'd be cute. You need to get my face on you.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Like, you don't have anything that's of me on your body. You know, if Ben got tattoos, I would make him get my name on his forehead. Yeah. What should I get? Get Lauren down the bridge of your body. You know, if Ben got tattoos, I would make him get my name on his forehead. Yeah. What should I get? Get Lauren down the bridge of your nose. Or why don't you get your guys' logo or something like that?
Starting point is 01:06:51 Because it changes. You change your logos. I'll just get this image right here. Or like that sweetheart hot as hell. Like, that's cute. Look at this. Lauren did a picture here and she looks great and she photoshopped me. Lauren, you look so bomb. Look at that. I'm cross-eyed. I just want to put it out there that when there is a photo of you and I, I don't even look at you.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Wait, no. I totally, I am so with you. I will post a picture and Ben will be like, my eyes are closed. I'm like, they are? I didn't even notice. I don't even look at anyone in a picture besides me. Like if there's a group photo.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Sorry, I'm just being honest. In a group photo, I'll look at everyone else because I don't want to be the person that didn't look at other people. But if it's a picture of the two of you, like man and woman, I really, I only just being honest. In a group photo, I'll look at everyone else because I don't want to be the person that didn't look at other people. But if it's a picture of the two of you, like man and woman, I really only looked at you. Of course. My eyes are cross-eyed. I don't think that's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:07:32 It so doesn't matter. And I put them against pink. Yeah, you know, you guys look so cute. You look really pretty there. I always tell everyone when I was growing up, this is what I always dreamed of, just have a show with a bright pink background. You're living the dream, man. Okay, well, beauty products. Oh, well, because I travel so much,
Starting point is 01:07:45 the only really problem I have with my skin is dryness, and it's probably because I don't drink enough water. So I'm obsessed with this Summer Fridays mask. Every time I get onto a plane, I take my makeup off and I put it on. And I don't even know if it works, but it makes me feel so much better, and I love the way that it smells.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And people just think I'm crazy on the plane, but I don't care because I love it. Then, these one-pack Neutrogena makeup wipes have changed my life. Now, we've heard that using a wipe to take off your makeup is not good because it can create wrinkles and like you pulling at your face. Did you say that?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah. I don't care. It is the only efficient way to take off your makeup and it is the only way to not wake up with mascara on your pillow and under your eyes. What about olive oil? Ew. I don't have olive oil. Why?
Starting point is 01:08:17 I don't fuck with olive oil because ever since when I was a child we had lice and the treatment for lice is to sleep with oil in your hair for two weeks. Okay, can we do a grapeseed moment? What does it smell like? I have to know. It smells good. Can we do avocado oil? I just think putting it on a little cotton pad. It's so much work. It's so stupid. There's no cotton pad. This is what it is. You put it in your hands?
Starting point is 01:08:35 This is what it is. You put it in your hands? You put it in your hands. You rub it together and you rub it all over your face. But then how do you get it off? What about your eye makeup? If you're removing your makeup, you just wash your face after you do that? And then put more oil on and go to bed. It's easy to take off face makeup. I could do it with my hand.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I do it all the time accidentally. It's the eye makeup. I promise you, if oil... How do you take off mascara with your teeth? I'm going to do it on stories. Once, a couple swipes, and it's off. I know that there are downsides to these wipes, but I have to say the upside totally outweighs the negatives. If you're at Coachella and you need a wipe.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And these little one-pack ones have changed my life. I have like 100 in my purse at all times. And I always take my makeup off before the plane. And then I just, whatever moisturizer I can get my hands on, I put it on. Neutrogena wipes. The Neutrogena. And the little one-packs are fucking genius. Yeah, that is genius.
Starting point is 01:09:20 That's really, really smart. Yeah, you want one? Sure. Also, one product that I love when I do have pimples, Mario Badescu Drying Lotion is the only thing I'll put on my skin. Very Kylie Jenner. Did she use that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Very Kylie Jenner. That's a hot one. I need to get that. I feel like nothing works. No, it really works. When you have a pimple. Zach loves it, too. There is a clay called Larisat that's from Sweden that has three ingredients.
Starting point is 01:09:43 It's water and clay, actually two ingredients, water and clay. And you put it on a pimple. It says to leave it on for 10 minutes. If you sleep in it, the pimple will be gone the next day. Really? Yeah. It's like the drying lotion. Do you ever get pimples in your scalp? No, but I like sometimes when I get nervous, I like itch my scalp and play with my hair. So when I was in LA, like I went for like an all time record of not washing my hair and I'm pretty sure I got a pimple in my hair. Okay. So what did you do? I made Ben take a picture of it. Because I was like, what is this thing in the back of my head?
Starting point is 01:10:08 It's bothering me so much. And it took a picture, and he took the worst, blurriest picture, and my hair was all over it, so I couldn't really tell. But I'm pretty sure it's a pimple. Oh, you should Instagram it. Oh, totally. No, I'll say it's you. Do a swipe right. She said a preset on it.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Doctors. Is it pink? Is it fitting my feed? It actually has a reddish tone, so it might be good. It might be good. Guys, I've had a lot of fun here today. Let's end with a pimple on the scalp. Where can everyone find you guys?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Pimp yourself out. Well, The Morning Trust goes live Monday through Friday, 10.30 a.m. Eastern Time on YouTube. So if you have a life that is conducive to watching something live at 10.30, you should definitely tune in. But if not, you can listen as a podcast. Yeah, we're available on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, all the places where podcasts can be listened to. Public radio, I don't know. Wherever you're listening to this podcast. Instagram handles. Girl with no iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, all the places where podcasts can be listened to. Public radio. I don't know. I heard radio. Wherever you're listening to this podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Instagram handles. Girl with no job. Cloud with no job. Pup with no job. At Jackie O Problems. Guys, follow them. Their accounts are amazing. Jackie does the Instagram for my dog, and it's truly premium.
Starting point is 01:10:58 If you're going to follow anyone out of this whole interview, Pup with no job. He has better flow than I do because he's more beautiful and easy to work with. Do I need to follow him? Hardcore. Yes. Oh, my God. You would love his flow it's blue white and orange is he single he's gay and single yes okay all right he should meet boone michael if you have any dogs in the new york area pup with no job feel like a bigger man oh oh boone's a little small oh this is his flow yeah yeah okay all right guys and how can they join the Facebook group? Because it's hysterical.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yes. It's the morning toasters. It's a little bit of a wait time, but it's worth it. It's a wait time to get in. Yeah. It's a really long time. The easiest way to get in is to become a member of our Patreon, and then you get into the Patreon group.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And then if you're a member of the Patreon group, you automatically get into the main group. There's just a lot of people. It's my favorite Facebook group besides my own. There's a lot of paperwork. Yeah. The Skinny Confidential. And we need a Skinny Toasters page. Of group. Okay. There's just a lot of people. It's my favorite Facebook group besides my own. There's a lot of paperwork. Yeah. The Skinny Confidential and we need a Skinny Toaster's page.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Of course. Yes. Of course, some investigative journalism before you get in there. Right. That's a good idea. I am going to,
Starting point is 01:11:53 what is it, what did you say, the investigative one? Toaster's Intelligence Agency. I'm going to them if Michael does anything wrong so watch the fuck out. Don't fuck with me.
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Starting point is 01:12:46 we will see you on Friday, right, Michael? Back again Friday, everybody. Back again. You get us twice this week.

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