The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast - The Power Of Healing Through Mindset & Affirmations, Neuro-Cosmetics, & Spiritual Journeys Ft, Margo & Roxy Marrone of Eyeam

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

#937: Join us as we sit down with Margo & Roxy Marrone – a mother-daughter duo who are the Founders of Eyeam, the first brand in neuro-cosmetics uniting mind, body, spirit, & skin. Margo is an award-winning Cosmetic Formulator, Pharmacist, Homeopath, & Energy Healer with over 30 years of experience in wellness. Roxy is an Integrative Nutrition Coach and founder of Healing with Roxy, known for her approach to healing through food, lifestyle, and self-development. Together, they're redefining self-care through science, affirmations, and intentional rituals that heal far more than just the surface. In this episode, Margo & Roxy open up about their personal healing journeys involving energy & demon attachment clearings, discuss the development of neurocosmetics with Eyeam, the power of mindset affirmations, & inflammations role contributing to hormonal imbalances and skin issues.  To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To connect with Eyeam click HERE To connect with Roxy Marrone click HERE To connect with Margo Marrone click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode. Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone]. To Shop eyeam visit https://eyeamworld.com/skinny and use code SKINNY for 30% off.  This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential The beauty tool that started it all, redesigned to evolve with you. Shop Ice Roller at https://bit.ly/IceRollerSilver. This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Head to http://BranchBasics.com and use my code SKINNY15 for 15% off your first order This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to http://armra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 30% off your first subscription order. This episode is sponsored by HERS Check out http://Forhers.com to learn more. This episode is sponsored by WOO More Play Visit https://woomoreplay.com to learn more about WOO More Play and get 20% off site wide. Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

Margot and Roxy Maroney are on the show today. They are a mother-daughter. duo who are the founders of I am. This is the first brand in neurocosmetics uniting mind, body, spirit, and skin. And before we even go into this episode, I have to tell you I am addicted. And if they're listening, hear this. I am addicted to two products from this brand. The first one, I'm using every single night is their magnesium spray. It's this gorgeous, stunning, kind of like spiritual spray. And it's magnesium. and I put it on my neck every single night and I'm also obsessed with their hormone drops.

So when you're listening to the episode, know that those two products, you got to try. I like have been raving to all my friends about those two specific products. Margo is an award-winning cosmetic formulator. She's a pharmacist and she's an energy healer. She has over 30 years of experience. And Roxy, her daughter, is an integrative nutrition coach and she is the founder of healing with Roxy. On this episode, we have a really candid open conversation that talks about personal healing journeys, energy, demon attachment clearings. We'll get to that, don't you worry?

We talk about the power of mindset affirmations and hormone imbalances. Margo and Roxy, welcome to the show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. So I was really excited to have you guys on, because I want to hear all about this energy healing situation. I just had demon attachments. Oh, did you? Cleared from our house. Okay. Wow.

Okay. No, no, you're speaking to the pro. I want to know, and you could be brutally honest if you think this is crazy, but basically there's this energetic healer that I worked with that he scans your entire house and everyone who's in it all the time from assistants to even like nannies, whatever, dogs, everything. And he scans it for demon attachments. Yeah. And Michael had, Michael came back as the only one in our house that had 12 demon attachment. Okay, okay. And three were in the bed. Okay. So I was sleeping with the demon.

Are you lonely in night? It's very normal, by the way. It's, I'm so happy that you have bought this up straight in. Welcome to the show. I love it. Demon attachment is a real thing. Yeah. It's biblical. It is. So if you read the Bible, it will tell you that Jesus came to cast out demons. Demons.

And all his disciples have authority against that too. And you know, going even before Jesus, the Jewish faith, which is where Christianity comes from, also talks about casting out demons. But nobody until that moment had authority to cast out demons. So the only people with real authority to cast out demons are the ones who walk with God, because God is the only one that has the authority to cast out demons, right? And so that's how Jesus could do it in the Bible. So now you would go to a pastor who is anointed and has the authority to do that,

because you have to do it through that source. Am I making sense? Yes, and the person who did it that makes so much sense is religious. Yeah. Pastor, right? Was he a pastor? I think so. Okay, good.

Because she's a pastor also. Because you have to use Jesus as your source. Yeah. So can you... You know, Lauren, I was named after the Archangel Michael. Yeah. That's true. I don't know.

That has to do, though, with your esteem and attachment. Well, you don't know what you need to know. Michael was the one who casts the devil out of... heaven and into hell, right? He's fine. Yeah. Yeah. So I think if more people understood what you just said, yeah. The world would be a much better place. You know what? You couldn't pay me. I said, yesterday, I said, I want to tell you I read a book about demon attachments. I read the whole book that he wrote. He's a doctor. He charged like nothing. It was like if anyone think I got scammed, it was like $20. Yeah. Yeah. And he came.

back with that and your demons are cleared. So you can literally thank your wife every day of your life. There's a big thank you. Well, thank you. I did wake up a little groggy the next day. Okay. True. True. Yeah. And detox. Yep. Yeah, maybe. So, okay, let's let's go. I'll go along. I'll get on this path. So how did I accumulate these demons while nobody else. Oh, no, no, no. Lovely question. Everybody has. I had many. So did I. Multiple. Multiple. Multiple. Did you have 12. So probably. Close. The reason I was sick before and why we started our brand was because I definitely had

demon attachments and they looked like eating disorder, anxiety, acne. These actually are all spiritual things. Yeah. Happens in the spirit first. Yeah. And then it manifests physically. I'm not going to see it. I'm clairvoyant.

Guys, here's my, I'm not going to lie, I was feeling pretty good. I was kind of like, now I'm kind of like, well, you got rid of them. Like, what if they were, what if they're helping me? No. No. No. That's a real thing. So some people are attached to their demon attachments.

I was bringing three to bed, apparently. Well, this is actually a very important thing that you're saying because not most, but a lot of people will have different types of dreams, sleep paralysis, nightmares, visions, these types of things during the night because that's also when we're accessed. So having a Okay, you started off by saying I'm going to think you're crazy Now you're going to think I'm crazy

I love it all Welcome to the show So there is such a I'm just going to just Say it painly So there are two spirits Called Incubus and Sucubus And by the way these are all in the Bible

And they are Demon spouses So one is for women One is for men and if you have one of these, then it ruins your marriage because they don't want you to be in a great relationship with Lauren. That's not what they want. They want you just for themselves.

So they will... So you could have dreams during the night when you're in activities... With someone else? with someone else. Don't tell Lauren that. You better not be having dreams with anyone else. No, but not a physical person.

It's energetic. Energetic. So if someone's listening and they want to know if they have demon attachments, what would you say? I would say, find yourself a really great church. Yeah. Who has a really great pastor. Who has the authority to cast them out?

Who has the authority to speak about these things? Who follows the Bible and is able to have. help you because it's called deliverance. Yeah. Deliverance is the removal of demons. Yeah. From your body. But you also need to be in a state to receive it.

And so the great thing about deliverance is that you also need to renew your mind. Mm-hmm. If that makes sense. It does make sense. And it's so weird that I was called to this random book on Amazon. It's a random book. Wow. I can tell you guys what it's called, but it's weird that you guys were coming on the

podcast today because I just did this and he looked at me yesterday like I had 12 heads and I was like I just want to let you know that I've cleared your demons someone else my assistant Katie had seven yeah and we got her cleared well let me give me the context we were going yesterday to speak I'm going to find the book an event for axios about like media and marketing right in the car and on the way to prep to go speak in front of this audience big crowd one's like by the way I cleared your demons you had 12 of them three were sleeping with you there's There's a guy that did it, da, and so you could imagine why I'd be like, what are you talking about? Of course.

I'm trying to prep about talking about the state of podcasts or something. You can understand what I'm saying. It's hard sometimes to talk to people that they don't. They don't get it. Yeah. I fully understand. And listen, I mean, our own journey. Yeah.

You know, I used to practice shamanism. I was a shaman. I did yoga and I reveda and all of that sort of stuff. But the issue is that we're all looking for. the truth. We're all looking for something to fill us. And that is God. That is the Holy Spirit. That's what we're looking for. Everybody. Every human being on the face of the earth is looking for the Holy Spirit. So on that note, just really quick, I got to tell everyone the book, and then we can move on from demons. It's called Demons Among Us, a practical guide to understanding, finding, and removing demons.

I'm obsessed. It's a little book. I read the whole thing, and it's by Dr. Mark Banz. Okay, nice. And that is who did the clearing. Beautiful. I highly recommend it to clear the energy in your house. It's imperative, actually, because it actually affects all areas of your life, including your business. So the important thing for you now is to say goodbye to them.

Yeah, say goodbye. And not wonder if you're better off with them because you weren't. Well, it's going to be easy to say goodbye because I wasn't aware of them to begin with. I honestly would rather that you have mistresses than demons. It's like annoying. Well, okay. I think I'm clear. She doesn't mean that.

I feel good now. I feel like the energy is good in here. Yeah. The demons are gone. Yeah. Let's start. Let's start with you guys. Let's start with you guys.

Okay. That was a great start. Let's get back on track here. Thank you for that. It's fun to kick it off like that. Okay. So take us back through the journey of why you guys started what you started. You mentioned you had demons.

You mentioned you were a shaman. I want to go back to that. Yeah. So really. I AM was all founded on my personal healing journey with hormonal acne and PCOS. At 24, I randomly, and I say randomly in abbreviations because it wasn't so random. You know, I had cystic acne all of a sudden, but I was doing five out of five things to unbalance my hormones and cause inflammation in my body, which looked like under-eating, over-exercising, using, you know, party lifestyle,

drinking excessively, eating, you know, not so good foods and really having the worst part was the negative thought loop in my mind, constant negative thinking, constant self-critical thinking and the environment that I was around really just built up this overflow of inflammation. And so eventually I started to have symptoms and, you know, my mom's been in the wellness industry for over 30 years, I knew everything about organic, everything about natural, but I always looked at things to look good over feel good. It wasn't really, I was, everything was to do with aesthetics more than actually feeling good inside. And so when I started to have these symptoms, I felt like my whole life was, my whole identity was just falling apart. And I thought, who am I?

I meant to be the girl with great skin. I meant to be the daughter of Margo, founder of the organic pharmacy that does XYZ and I'm here with cystic acne have so much inflammation and so much anxiety that I couldn't even leave the house I didn't want to be seen, don't want to wear, you know, speak to people, look them in the eye because I thought they were staring at my skin. It's interesting to meet you now because when I walked in, the first thing I noticed was how beautiful your skin was and you seemed so confident. Yeah. So when you say that you couldn't even leave the house. I mean, that's a big difference. No, no. And that's how I know I had demons. Do you know what I mean? You see what, like, the two different types of things is that really it was, I was a shell of a person, but it was imperative

because I had to shed my old life in order to find my purpose, which is what we do now. And then at the time, so mom's background is in cosmetic formulation and pharmacy. So I begged her to make me something. I said, please, I can't find anything that's working. And, you know, the only options that I had were to go back on birth control, because I had been on it for eight years, came off and it, all my symptoms got way worse. And then when that was my other option or rachetane, I was like, no, surely I can treat the root and not just the symptoms I'm having. So I came to her. I said, please help me. And that's where she made our first two products, which is our hormone balancing supplement and our spot treatment and they work so well. Yeah, I mean, I think for a mother, you guys will understand

in the future, hopefully not. When you see your child in so much pain and suffering so much, it's a terrible thing for a mother to see. And because she, you know, as you said, you walked in and she was so confident, she's always been confident in her whole life. But there is a stage that every teenager goes through, which is the social scene. And as a parent, you just have to pray. You just have to hover and just, you know, hang around them to catch them whenever they fall because you can't really stop them from partying and doing stuff and just being free. So what did you do personally during that period of time? Because I imagine now as a parent, we're not as far along. Our kids are young. Yeah. I'm very interested in how you navigated that

because we're going to at some point. Yeah. Well, I think in the teenager, the thing is, I always thought that they don't listen, but actually they listen to everything you say. And so you just have to build a really strong foundation for them as they're growing up. And then there comes the teenage years where they don't want to know you, they don't want to speak to you, and they don't want to be around you. And that's okay. You have to let them go. And that's when as a parent, you have to behave towards them as an adult. It's got to be really hard, though. It's really hard. It's so hard. I don't know if we could do that. It's like a heartbreak. You totally can do that. And unfortunately, it is something that you have to do. Otherwise, your relationship suffers.

So, so I always used to joke. I always used to say amongst my friends, don't worry, by the time she's 24, she's going to be, she'd have done it all. And then it's, yeah, which is exactly what happened. I'm sober. I haven't drunk alcohol in two years. I stopped like four years ago and then cut it tea total two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. So when she came to me in, in the state of severe cystic acne and just constantly crying. I literally sat her down and I said, okay, I can make you a topical treatment. I can make you an internal treatment. That's all good. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. What we need to do is change everything. So I'm not going to put you on racutane. I'm not going to okay that because that's not my ethos or philosophy. So now what we need to do is you use the topical,

you take the internal but you also have to change your diet, you also have to change your mindset. So you cannot look in the mirror and say, I'm ugly. You have to change that. Yeah, because that's what I was doing when I had acne. I thought I would obsessively check my skin every single morning. And it was really interesting because now that I understand what was happening from a nervous system regulation point, I had been so used to that programming with my body. I would obsessively check my body every morning. And when I decided to let that go, it then turned to my skin. And my body had to produce a reaction because my nervous system felt unsafe in that safe,

in that, oh, I don't need to check my body anymore. But it needed to cause another reaction in order for me to check something because that's what my nervous system was used to. Talk about the nervous system in general. I just was reading something about something very similar that you said that says the nervous system is when a trigger happens, the trigger activates something in the nervous system. Exactly. Maybe it's not a big deal, but you have a trigger towards it because your nervous system is programmed

that way. Yeah. So that's exactly what I had to break. And really, that's what led me. So my background now is in nutritional coaching because I needed to understand why what was happening to me was happening. Because all the information out there wasn't working for me. I didn't know why I had PCOS. I didn't know why I had cystic acne. And he didn't know why I felt anxious all of a sudden. And when I did all my nervous system regulation training, I realize that the attachments that I had, that's what my body felt safe in in that unsafe place. Actually, the unknowing of feeling good was too scary that my body had a physical reaction. And so that's what I had to break and unlearn. And that's why we created neurocosmetics because two are in one. You can't just treat your skin topically and then not the mindset and the

nervous system with that. It makes so much sense. Yeah. Right. I'm such a big fan of Louise Hay. Oh, my favorite. She's the OG. We just met David Kessler who wrote a book with her.

He's been on the show. Hey. We love David Kessler. He was on an I-Am stage in London and Oxford University. He's a really special person. Yeah. It's so weird because on the show I asked him, I was like, there's something about you that reminds me of Louise Hay.

We didn't have the awareness at the time. He, like, tripped out. He's like, because I didn't know he wrote a book with her I didn't know he knew her he told me all these stories about her wasn't that she's an A-G book of hers that you didn't read was the one that he wrote it was the only book that I had never read was the one they wrote together

wow I totally agree with what you're saying about the mindset Michael always says that the way he talks to himself people would think he's an arrogant no no it's the opposite actually it's exactly I mean I just think, I just firmly believe, and I've known this my entire life, that the way you talk to yourself is what is going, like, if you, it doesn't matter what's being said around you, it matters what you say to yourself. One million percent. And, you know, sometimes if I've made a mistake, I can acknowledge mistakes, but I refuse to call myself a failure or I used to call myself, like,

I talk about myself in a very, I guess, uplifting crazy way. More so than I would admit out loud. Yeah. And I guess if you heard it out loud, you'd be like, this guy is so full of it. But I just think that if you don't cheer for yourself that way, then you can't expect anyone else to. You have to. You have to because words are so powerful. Yeah. And thoughts are so powerful. We create our whole world through our thoughts, which manifest through our words and then manifest through our actions. So it's a three-way stage, thoughts, words, action. Like, even when I was dating or when I was up, I would tell, I would be like, listen, like, this girl is going to be so lucky if she gets with me. Like, I would tell, but it's important. Because, well, then I think, like, from an

approach perspective because a lot of women and men get nervous. Like if you talk to yourself and you have that perspective, the way you would speak to somebody is much different. And again, like, if you go to yourself like, oh, like I'm a loser and I don't think this person will like me and I'm never going to, like, that that is going to then be how you present. And people pick up on that stuff. They do. I would love for you to speak a little bit more on how your thoughts create your reality. Okay. Just explain like, explain how if someone's listening and they're having negative thoughts and both of you guys can speak on this what what is a shift that they can make to create a reality that's beautiful and flourishing okay so negative thoughts are completely useless

and in fact it's one of the areas where the demonic realm can attack you by putting negative thoughts into your mind they can't read your mind but they can put thoughts into your mind you're no good you're useless why did you do that nobody likes you the list is endless and we're all familiar with that right so speaking positively about yourself every every word every thought has energy and frequency and vibration we know this we know that the entire world around us is made of energy frequency and vibration so our thoughts have the same and so the more positively we think and this is not you know it's not what did they call it toxic it's

not like gaslighting yeah toxic positivity toxic but it's It's not. That is a different thing where you put on a mask and you, but this is actually saying, right, I've working up this morning and I feel terrible. I feel sad. Then you go into warrior mode. Yeah. And your warrior mode is I am grateful. I am lifted. I am happy. I am this. You just talk yourself out of it. Yeah. An affirmation is a declaration of how you want to feel. So we love affirmations as a tool to really reprogram your mindset or. or we call them canceling of negative, that negative thought loop. And you do that through affirmation practice, through gratitude, through forgiveness. Basically, all the principles that Jesus followed was forgive, be kind, be grateful, love one another, and declare your truth. You know, it says let the weak say I am strong, let the poor say I'm rich. You know, it's not a mistake that this has been around for such a long time because our words

can dictate our whole. That's where manifestation comes from. You know, manifestation is not, the law of manifestation comes from this principle and there's so much science behind it. Everything in my life I've manifested and every time I talk about it and I try to give tips, I get torn apart. Why? That's an affirmation though, what I just said. Did you hear that? Yeah. That's why I shouldn't say that. I should say, I'm going to attract the right energy. Some people don't like to hear the word manifest. And it's a, you know, you need. spot to be in because I want to share how I have manifested what I have in my life. But I also don't want to project it on to anyone and I don't want to sound self-righteous and be a no at all.

I just believe in it so much. And immediately it gets labeled as woo-woo. It's not. But more importantly, and I think to that end, the way that I've always approached it is what you said in the beginning is I don't see the point whatsoever in negative self-talk. There's no point. thoughts, meaning like, none whatsoever. There's no use out of it. And that's why, you know, sometimes you have people playing the victim that have some of those things on repeat. And what I want to tell a lot of those people that get stuck, oh, my, you know, I didn't have this parent. I didn't

have that upbra. You know, this guy did this or that. Did that? I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not useful whatsoever to you to continue to repeat that or think about it. It doesn't, it doesn't affect the person you're saying it to. Thank you. It doesn't help the person saying it. So, like, From a logical perspective, if we can rule out and say, okay, negative self-talk and thoughts are not useful. At all. At all. At all. None whatsoever.

Then at least we can all agree that there's no point in doing them because it just makes people around you want to be away and makes you miserable. Exactly. It damages you. And then on the flip side of that is that would have to mean then that positive self-talk has the potential of being very useful. It's physics. Yeah. That's what it is. It's quantum physics.

Can you explain? You said it's, you said it's neuroscience? It's neuroscience. Okay, can you explain? So we were in Oxford not that long ago. Yeah, last month. With all the top trauma clinicians, trauma clinicians, David Kessler. Bessel, bandicole, yeah, all of them. Anyone.

And positive self-talk is an actual neuroscience. Yeah. Proven. It's proven. So let's say that you want to manifest. Yeah. I'm just going to make this up. want to manifest making a million dollars next year.

Right. Right. How do you do that from a science perspective? Okay. So first you create the vision. Yeah, get clear on the vision. Yeah. You create the vision of what you want and you make it clear and then you write it down and then you action it. That's what I do. Yeah. It's really simple. And it's not it's not woo-woo because quantum physics and all of these different fields of energy, they prove it. But also can you take it a step further with I also think like I manifested my family too. Yeah. It can is that I'll give you a weird is there is there a science behind like I wrote down exactly what I wanted. Don't you think that everyone could easily do that just think what they want.

But it's them it's their mindset that stops them that oh I'm not good enough. Oh that would never happen to me. The fear is what blocks them yeah from getting to their full potential. Because it's a process. Yeah. So you. have to think it, then you have to write it, speak it, and do it. I'll give you a weird one. It's true. And I've showed, I've, you've seen this paper. I've showed it to Lauren. I have a piece of paper from 2015 and on it. There's a bunch of vague things. And one of them says, you know, Lauren and I will speak to an audience. Number two is we would have a platform to help other people speak to other audiences. Number three is like you would

have then a business. And we'd have like literally like every single thing that dear media has become and that business and the family we've built was on a paper from 2015. And there was no, like, it's a little bit vague, but the, but the high level vision of like the goals are there. And then it was, but to your point is like once it's there, you have to, we had to work back like, how do you do it? Of course. Exactly. Exactly. But the great thing about that is then suddenly you find that people come your way.

And they're like, oh, you meet someone randomly who can help you. Or you meet someone else who's a connection who then takes you one step further on the way. that path and and people call it magic but it really isn't it's flow state it's when you're in that flow state of alignment then and your vessel is clean you know you're do it you're moving you're eating well you're breathing yourself regulated you're not coming from a place of fear but you're coming from a place of trust you're like i know i'm going to do this i know i'm going to get this and i know in our case i know that god is behind us and he's going to open every door which he has so And sometimes we wonder

Sometimes we wonder how are we going to do this Truly But the vision is there And then it's like Then it just falls into place And sometimes I look at her and I think How did that just happen? I'm flabbergasted

Have you always been spiritual? Yes Always Because you said you practiced shamanism I did And how did you come to start doing that So my whole life I've been looking

For the truth And it's interesting because when you don't know, you look in all sorts of places to see if it's there. And so I've been down many, many rabbit holes. I've been down the UFO rabbit hole. And my children always roll their eyes at me because it's like, it's like, Mom, what are you into now? Keep it going. Where did you grow up? Wait, what other rabbit holes have you been down?

So I've been down the UFO rabbit hole for many years. led me nowhere. Yeah. I've been down the, obviously, this sort of pseudo-spiritual rabbit hole. Or even just more like new age spiritualism. New age, yeah. Yeah, I've been down that led me nowhere. Yeah.

It takes you to as far as you can go. Yeah. And then you're like, no, this is not it. I don't have the answers. There's just, there was just one element missing. It was more the peace we were missing. And then that's when we found. The peace, the joy, the love, all the things that we all were.

We were able to manifest, but it just was like there was something, a blockage. And then when we found our pastor, which we've never seen anything, I've never seen such supernatural things happen before and miracles like that of what he's done. And then that's when everything started to overflow in excess when we opened that door. So when you found God, that's when you felt like you could go through to the next level. Through every practice, there is power. Yeah. But it's not clean power.

So it's only when you, when, and my journey really was because I really wanted to know the truth. Like, where do we come from? Where do we go? What are we meant to do? Why are we here? Who are we? And they couldn't really give the answers in most of the things. And it was just so complicated.

Like shamanism was so complicated. It was such complicated rituals. So, okay. This is not complicated. Yeah, it's not complicated. It's easy. Yeah. For someone like myself who is curious, like what, what is shamanism?

Like, what do you do and what do you follow? Okay. And what are, and are, like, is it, are you giving ayahuasca in the desert? Yeah, I didn't do that, but there are shamans who use drugs. I mean, I participated in a few, but that's a whole other story. Yeah, I think that's another. episode that doesn't introduce me to quite a few demons which i brought back with me that one we're going to have to go come to london and discuss yeah we'll save that for another episode that'll be the first

episode we record in london yeah i'm down yeah because we've got lots of stories on that but yeah but then you know just like i say when when you're looking for it somehow it finds you yeah and so for me on on a particular day it was I met this lady who then I started asking her questions she was telling me things that I was learning as a shaman like you go into your dreams and you manipulate your dreams like if something happens in your dream you can go back in and change it and I was like oh how did you do that is it did you are you doing soul retrieval or blah blah blah she went no no my pastor taught me and I said well is your pastor a shaman is that what he does yeah because I didn't know that Christianity offered that I

had no idea. I wasn't a Christian, wasn't interested in religion, I didn't want to know, didn't want to go to church, didn't want to go to a mosque, didn't want to go anywhere. Like, it wasn't my, religion was out for me. It was not part of my search. So, so she said, no, no, he does all of this. And, you know, when people are there, he just heals them. And I was like, how is he doing that? Also, she had been practicing healing, like energy healing. And she used to do it on me all the time. But when we met our pastor, he can do that 10 times. Was it like Reiki? So I guess what you practiced was similar to Reiki. I practiced. It's called energy healing through the shaman process. Yeah. Whereas our pastor does it through the power of

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response because it actually takes 28 days to make or break a habit. So if you can stick to something for 28 days and habit stack the two, which is what I was learning in my training at the time about habit stacking. And so it became an automatic response that every time I use the product, I had to say an affirmation. It's really actually genius what you guys have done because it is, it's It's tapping into the mindset and that's something that's a system. You have to. That's like spot gel, but then pairing it with a mindset change. It's really like very cool.

I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, I guess that's why we really are. We're saying that we're the first in the neurocosmetic space because nobody, especially in the healing sort of sector of treatments, you know, skincare is amazing and we use incredible ingredients, but you need the 360 approach in order to get the results. that you're looking for. Well, it's like, you know, I talk about this a lot with my, after my first baby, when I gained so much weight, I just, I was working out, but I kept telling myself, I can't lose weight. Yeah.

The way is not coming off. There you go. It's not coming off. And the second that I, I shed that mindset, which took a long time, like two years and paired it with the weightlifting, it was a totally different experience. Yeah. Like saying, I'm losing the way. It's coming off me. with my third baby because I have that tool of the mindset.

Yeah. A lot of Louise Hay practice for evening and night meditation every more, like all the time or morning and night. And I pair it with the action, which is exactly what you guys are doing. Exactly. It works like it's crazy how it works. Yeah. It is.

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But for me, it took six months for him to just fully cleanse me. And how did he do that? Well, he does deliverance every week. So deliverance is literally you go and he will remove demons. I cannot make this up that we would have someone on the show. It's crazy. I thought you were going to be like, yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. I cannot make this up that this is happening the day after I told you this.

I'm sorry, you have to be, you have to give me my flowers right now. You have to. I'm with her. This is insane. The problem is, is I haven't met the pastor and she just told me that a guy like reached in from across the world and did it to me. Sometimes I've realized that my delivery, I deliver it how. It makes sense to me, but it doesn't make sense to other people who are a little more close wrong.

I agree. So in answer to your question, you don't need to be in the same room as somebody because we're talking about quantum physics. So we're talking about energy frequency and vibration, which you don't need to physically be in someone's presence in order for that to happen. I'm not going to debate or argue all that. I'm just saying I learned about this yesterday in a car. So you need you process it. Yeah, I'm processing. Yeah.

I'm thinking about it. That's okay. Listen, it took me six months. I literally turned up. Yeah. Non-religious, non-interested in that kind of thing. I had just been to a retreat, which was wonderful. It was beautifully organized, beautiful people.

It was fabulous. But we did three different ceremonies, which was Canbo to Dito. and then Bufo, which is the frog one. The Camba is the one that they poke, right? Yeah. The cambo is the one that they poke you. And then the Bufo is the one where they, where you, it's a psychedelic, you smoke it, and then mushrooms. And I, I'm...

They have you do all three of those in three days. Three days, yeah. I'm not one to do those types of things. I just don't like drugs. I don't like anything of that nature. But I was like, okay, you know, it's with friends, I'll try it. And it was a spiritual reason. Yeah. You thought that you were going to get spiritual. enlightenment. I did. And the journey itself was beautiful, but oh my goodness, afterwards. So we're

talking about negative thoughts. These thoughts were so dark and so deep and so strong. Like you are, you are ugly, you are no good, nobody loves you, you will never be loved. These were the thoughts that were pounding in my head the whole time afterwards. After that event happens, these are your thoughts. And so would you say that you were worse after that than before? A thousand times worse. A thousand. Literally, I'm not a crier. Yeah, she's really not.

I would cry every day. It was weird, honestly. People would call me and I'll say, I can't talk. I can't speak to you. I have to, and I would just go to the park, sit by myself. Feel sorry for myself. Pity party. And I'm not, she knows I do not do pity.

Yeah. Not for anyone. If I see someone in a pity party, I'm like, come on, get yourself out. If I'm having a meltdown, she's like, get up. Just get up. Get yourself together. I love that. But can I ask you this?

Don't you think, though, that maybe the plant medicine and the Bufo and all that had to take you to this spot so you could get to the next spot? Because maybe if you hadn't have gone that low and had the pity party and had these negative thoughts, you then wouldn't have found the next thing. To me, it's almost like you were supposed to do the booth. One million a percent. Because you have to go through that to get to there. Yes. You're 100 percent right. And also, a part of me would have always wondered, what if?

Yeah. What if I tried that? What if I tried that? But, you know, I've tried so many things now that I don't have a wonder of what if? Because I know. So in the six months that you started healing, what, what is that? that look like and how does it affect you as her daughter? Yeah, so the first few months they were going, my mom, my brother, I was really, I just thought, oh my goodness, like, I thought, this is the

next thing that they're into and da-da-da-da-da-da, whatever. At the time, though, I didn't have my period and I didn't have my period for almost three years after coming off the pill. And our hormone check drops is one of the reasons that I got back my period. But the reason I went to the pastor initially was to get my period back. I was like, I have acne, don't have my period, I would just really like to be healed. And my mum said,

well, why didn't you just come and try? You know, the energy healing I used to do on new works, so, you know, what's any different to this? And I thought, okay, like, you know, I'm into, I can get a bit crazy and, you know, try different things.

So I thought, I'll go. Didn't, you know, it was very reserved, didn't have any expectations. But the moment I walked in, I felt like I was being cleansed from the inside out. Like you just feel like you want to cry so much. And they're not even saying anything to you.

And that's what we call the Holy Spirit. It's when the Holy Spirit touches you. And it basically just cleanses you from the inside. So the guy that, you know, you had worked with, used the Holy Spirit and entered your house to clear everything out. That's the tool, basically. It's awesome. And it's a feeling now that, you know, I'm addicted to.

I couldn't live without it because now, you know, all my negative thinking has dissipated. I don't have any critical thoughts, any comparison, which I used to have any obsessive thinking, like very, very bad obsessive thinking before, and all of that has disappeared thanks to not only the pastor, but also just the lifestyle. What were some things that you both noticed that happened in the church specifically? Like did the pastor tell you to change your mindset? What are the things that he used? It's very, very gentle, so gentle. So I think at one point he probably wanted to throw me out because I was so stubborn. You know, I had spent 55 years of my life learning a certain way. And so when you come with all of that information, which is incorrect, by the way, part truths, you have to shed that in order to renew your mind. Because, let's face it, it wasn't working, really, was it?

Otherwise, I wouldn't be in that situation. So it was a very gentle and very slow process of me just showing up. It takes discipline and starting to read the Bible. I'd never read the Bible in my life. And it was just those words were renewing my mind because actually what is taught in there is so pure and so good that I feel like a lot of religion has twisted it to suit man rather than the other way around, if that makes sense.

It makes total sense. What are some things that speak to you in the Bible? Well, first of all, is forgiveness. I think if we forgave and accepted our forgiveness, then we'd be so free. Yeah, it's freed. Also, there's one of my favorite quotes is, do not be anxious for anything, but in everything, prayer, Thanksgiving. and supplication to God in everything that you do. So, you know, it's like, what is the point of worrying about anything when we don't actually have control over anything?

It's an illusion of control. And the control actually causes the inflammation inside your body, which is causing your symptoms. Do you want to get that tattooed on your arm? Yeah. I think another demon just attached for me because no one's chirping. You refuged that. I think that's why I'm sorry.

I said that his demons came from when he had too much fun in college. She had a couple demons that I had to get rid of. It's possible. It's normal, but the way that the world works, it's cultural conditioning, society, movies. You know, I always say your diet isn't only what you eat. It's about what you listen to. Agreed. About what you watch.

Books you read. Agreed. The Bible also says that demons come when your wife is nagging at you. I think that's, what is that in like, in Matthew? Look that up. I think that's probably where a lot of demons come from. How come that some people in my house didn't have demons, though, if they attach so easily? So the door, there's door, we call them doors.

They either open or they don't open. And you can trauma is one way that you can open a door. Oh, no wonder I got so many. We all do. That's why it's very common that most people have some sort of attachment because of traumas. They will open the door to negative thinking. Fear. Fear is the biggest door.

It's like when we are scared or feel abandoned or feel that we have to take control of everything, then that's how these sort of energetic entities can become attached. So if someone doesn't have them, though, what does that mean, that they just haven't attached? Like, my kids didn't have any, the dogs didn't have any. Yeah, because they don't have the logical sort of understanding of the society. Does that make sense? But I don't mean to brag. I didn't have any.

Where's mine? I don't have any. You're a clean vessel. Yeah. You've done a lot of work on yourself. You've done, see, you've done. The programming that you've got, it's all about your programming. We need to record this episode and put it on repeat, on a CD for Michael to listen to.

I'm a clear vessel. Also, so, correct me if I'm wrong. An able man bears many burdens. Yeah, you seem to be quite aware, energetically. Yeah, and I am. So do you get dreams, do you get information? Do you get things like that? Like intuition.

feel like something's right or it's wrong. Like out of control to the point where sometimes, and I know I can already tell that you are going to know exactly what I mean, you feel drained and you have to reset. Yes. Because it becomes an able man. It becomes sort of like you have to be careful because it's a blessing and it's also. It's a gift.

It's a gift. It's a gift. It's a gift. It's not a other. I get a lot of cranial sake. I will say this about my wife and I and people going to, you know, the people that are not open this probably already turned this one off. But I have seen her two times after going and doing ultrasounds with a baby, naturally flip two babies in her stomach after being told that she was not going to be able to and that they were going to have to have a cease.

I've seen her do it twice. I saw her call on the exact date that our son was delivered on it that, that was. was not the due date. I have seen, I have seen her blow up and have a huge infection recently in the face. He wanted to rush me to the emergency room. Doctor said ER and antibiotics. And literally the next day,

she healed it. And it was gone. It was gone. And I'm not like, I'm not a woo. Everyone that listens to the show knows I'm not woo. So I've seen her do a lot of these things. And I've also seen her,

you know, see her do a lot of that kind of stuff, which is open my eyes to the perspective of like having a different mindset and being able to do that. So yeah, I mean, a lot of people say that's woo-woo, but then the more shows like this that I've done and what you were talking about earlier is if you have, like there is something that is going on our bodies when you think certain way and have certain thought patterns. If you're anxious all the time, if you're stressed all the time. Like for me, I realize that like probably a lot of the issues, like I was a control, anxious person for a long time and that was probably not doing good from health.

I also think a lot of people that have gut issues and God health problems. For sure. It's a lot of, you know. It's connected. For sure. Yeah. So I just say that to say that like there's there, I do believe that there is more than like, than just some of the things we've been taught.

Don't let him for you. He's listening to five, two eight hearts every night. Two things that I would like to say to that. One is that she's a woman of faith because that is what it is. And if I was to hazard a guess, you are. most definitely a prophetess and a healer. That's what I would say. What does that mean?

A prophetess is... I don't have to write this down. You can see things. It's not a clairvoyant because a clairvoyant is a different... Something that doesn't use God. Yeah. So a prophetess is someone who uses God. God as their messaging.

That's so weird that you say that because two days ago I was like, what is going on with me? There's something going on. So I was talking. I was like, am I a clairvoyant? That's the word that kept coming to me. And I would read it and I'd be like, no, because this is like, I feel like you see colors or something with a clairvoy.

It's like, no. Yeah. So if you think about it. It couldn't give me a word. Yeah. So the word is you are a prophetess, which means you're a vessel for God to speak through. Yeah. And so your channel is clear.

That's why you can hear him so clearly. Really. Do you hear that? And that's why you were clean. Wow. So that's the first one. And the second one is that, I mean, you guys obviously have heard of Gabor Mate. He says your psychology dictates your physiology.

And this is where we get into the science of it. What you think dictates your physical response. So you cannot separate the body from the mind from the spirit. Yeah. If you practice gratitude every day. your whole life will change. It's true. Your whole life will change.

It's true. You will go from being a miserable, grumpy, for lack of another word, loser to someone who is beaming with joy, full of gratitude and peace and love. And I mean, come on, which one would we choose? I also think you have to think about if you're locked in an elevator with somebody and the person is just so negative and all they're telling you. you is this this is we're never going to get out of this. Thank you. How can we ever this? What are we going to do? I need to be around someone that's like, okay, we got this. Yeah. We're going to make a

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and solve a problem and solve the problem of the mind. Because even though I practice so much Louise Hay and Wayne Dry, or whatever it is, like I'm practicing, practicing, you have to practice it or the negative thoughts do come back in. And that's why we paired it so that it's a day, you know, everybody does their skincare. Which products did you guys use? I'm obsessed with your lip.

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So you're putting energy on your lips. Yeah. And by the way, we bless everything and cleanse it before it goes out to anyone. I haven't tried the spot treatment yet. That's the one I want to try because I'm having some pimples right now. Yeah. Post-pregnancy. Yes, but I'm going to try it with the affirmations because I've been looking in the mirror and doing what you're, I'm like, oh my gosh, where are these pimples coming back?

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Go to Woomoreplay.com to get 20% off today. When you have small children again as an adult, or when you have small children for the first time as an adult, and you watch the way that they're programming, the way they interact without being prompted just in nature or as just like little human. what's what I think is illuminating to a lot of people is you realize like how far away you get as an adult from some of that stuff and I think that human beings like as you go through you have to check in without it. Like wait a minute, like when is the last time I checked in with myself as a human and aren't just like getting caught up in the rigmarole of daily life, especially if you're in a big city

with technology. That might sound like woo-woo coming from me, but I- It's not little. But I do think about it a lot. You know, there's one of my favorite quotes from the Bible says, guard your heart with all diligence because of the issues of life flow through it. So if you are so caught up in the issues of life, which by the way is so normal because there are so many issues of life, you know, am I going to be able to pay my bills? Am I going to be able to, you know, feed my family? Are my family okay? Are my friends talking

about me behind my back? There are so many different thoughts that we're having constantly. but if we can put ourselves in an environment that protects us from that outside noise and really set, I call it the healing toolbox, you have your healing toolbox, and you get your weapons when you need them, so that when you're in a situation where you're either getting the thoughts or you're feeling overwhelmed or you're feeling like you want to control everything, you come back to the basics, breathing, moving, community, forgiveness, love, gratitude. And diet.

And diet, you know, when I was going through my, skin journey. I adopted an anti-inflammatory lifestyle, which I still live now. You know, when people sign up to our newsletters, they get a free e-book, which has like eight recipes and a whole bunch of free, all the tips that I did to clear my skin through an anti-inflammatory lifestyle. You're going to have to send me that. I'm going to have to sign up for the news letter. I'll send it to you. It's, you know, it's such a labor of love because when my true passion in life is to help people and to teach people, that's why we offer a lot of free education on our website. We have a biohacks. We have a biohacks. section and we write a whole bunch of blogs and biohacks and programs that you can do because we really

believe that everybody deserves to be healed whether you can afford it or not what are some biohacking things that you both do and some rituals that you do every day so many things so I actually listen to your episode with the guy that does the miracle morning yeah and it's so funny because I never heard of the miracle morning before but that's exactly what I do and that's like normal for me and that's basically how I live my life I we start our morning we pray and with our church and on Zoom. We then, I then do like 20 minutes of like LED mask and meditation and silence. Then we like read the Bible. I journal. I have a conversation with God. I'm like, when you say we are you talking about you and your mom together? Yeah, because we just like do it,

we do everything together. We still live together. Yeah. That is. I know. Yeah, with my brother as well. So like, you know. I hope I'm doing this with my daughter. It's the best. Honestly. Oh my God. That is so cute. So you guys do all this together. Okay, keep going. All of it together. Then, you know, I'll have my bone broth and my matcha, or maybe I'll have a coffee, my mold-free coffee, very, very important. What's the brand?

Exhale is the one that I'm using right now. It's from the UK, so I'm sure there's a better one from, like, you know, within the states that you guys can get that won't cost loads of shipping. So really having all of that and then practicing my affirmations, doing my skincare, it just sets me up that I'm so ready for the day that no matter what. comes. Oh, like, and I can never forget my magnesium spray. If I don't spray my magnesium spray, I notice a huge difference in not only how I feel physically, but mentally. You know, I have more brain fog and my body feels more lethargic and tired. We, we have, honestly, mum's,

one of her gifts is that she can make the best products that really do work so well. I want to try the magnesium spray. I didn't try that. Yeah, we've got some, yeah, we've got stuff for you guys and it's a bi-phase spray so it's got two phases and it basically mimics the cell. So we made it so that it's got water soluble vitamins and oil soluble vitamins that go into different parts of the body to of those vitamins and you spray it on your body and not only does it give you magnesium but it actually helps with the texture of skin because we like to do form and function. So we want the skin texture stretch marks, cellulite, body acne to all go away but then also have the magnesium so it gives that glymphatic boost.

Yeah. So, I mean, one of the things that I noticed is two things that I love very much. One is detoxification. Yeah. And that's really through diet. So you sort of do, I don't know, seven days. But in my previous life, I noticed that I used to see patients, thousands and thousands of them. Yeah, as a pharmacist. And I noticed that everyone was toxic, as in when I say toxic, showed symptoms of physical toxicity. What are some of those symptoms? Any kind of skin issue. It simply means that your body is overloaded. That's all it means. And so it presents itself as symptoms. So it could be mood swings, bad breath, digestion, tiredness, brain fog. These are all symptoms of that you need to do a detox. And so I would put all my patients or clients on a detox. What's the detox? Well, this is from my previous brand, which was called the organic pharmacy, which is called the organic pharmacy. And the detox is under that brand. It's a 10-day detox, which I developed for my patients. Like 25 years ago. Do you guys still do it? Yeah.

I want to look, check it out. It's a 10-day detox. Yeah, we'll get them to send it to you. Yeah. Like, mum has been, I remember when she first opened the first shop that she ever did organic pharmacy, I think I was three. You were three. My brother was born.

I had a little lab coat. Cute. And yeah. And really, like, there was no other organic brands. There was no natural skincare. There was none of that. You know, people used to say that she was crazy. So why are you doing this?

What's organic skincare? Yeah, why would you use organic skincare? And I was like, I was a little evangelist. I was like, do you know what you're putting on your body? Do you know what you're putting on your skin? Yeah, your skin is your large organs. These are endocrine disruptors. They cause cancer.

Why? You know, like I was. Hair spray. Yeah. Yeah. Please, you're spraying. Indocrine disrupting cancer causing hairsprings. Let me set the record straight.

I'm going to just blast you now on the show. You will whine about my little hairspray. A woman will show up to her house with a literal paint booth to spray tan your entire body. Once in a while, not all the time. I would say once every two months. Okay. It covers you from head to toe. Yeah, it's pretty bad.

That is pretty bad. Okay? I have like a little spray up here. Like literally you come out as a different person. So when you gave this 10-day detox to all these people who had toxicity, what happened? So I noticed that 50% of their symptoms would just go. So the body is a self-healing. I don't want to use the word machine, but our bodies are designed to self-cleans and self-heal. But we're so overloaded with different things from all different places, including emotions.

Yeah, stress. Demon attachments. Yeah, literally. So once you cleanse that and you also process the mind, and the other thing that I wanted to say was that I noticed that most people were deficient. in magnesium. Huh. And that is a huge problem because it causes insomnia. It causes muscle cramps, anxiety, mood swings, all sorts of things like that. Also hormonal imbalance. I noticed when I, when, so when mum formulated the new magnesium line, we use transdermal

magnesium because it's more bioavailable. I noticed that all my PMS symptoms went away. Yeah. Like my, my, every time my cycle would come, it would be significantly easier. That's really interesting because when. I get period cramps, I spray magnesium on my stomach. That's exactly what you should. That's exactly what you're going to get.

And I don't even know why I do that until you just told me that. You have it. You're naturally. It's a hard burden to carry. It's a great gift. Yeah. And trust yourself. Oh, I do.

But sometimes I'm glad that you were able to do this episode. These episodes are like therapy for us because we're sometimes talking. two different languages and he hears this and then in the last like few years i don't question when she does things like that like when you know when she has an intuition about how to take care of herself i don't i don't ever i don't i do say like if this thing starts to go real south we have to be able to like yeah nip it yeah okay what does south mean mean like if like the other day when she had that infection her face or so i said like if this gets to a certain point yeah yeah yeah i was like can you stop talking to me or you're bringing my cortisol up i need to keep the cortisol

And that's a real thing. Yeah, because if I get stressed, it gets bigger inflammation. And, you know, actually, when we have increased cortisol, it actually helps affects the skin barrier function. So this is all, it's all interlinked. You know, when people say, you know, stress doesn't cause skin issues or physical body issues, it does. It will manifest in the body because, you know, if you're stressed, you're more likely to have inflammation in the body, which will increase any inflammatory problems that you're having. which can look like acne, psoriasis,

exma, rosacea, IBS, IBS, really anything that's displaying an anti-an, an inflammatory problem, that's what's going to happen. And hormonal imbalance is an inflammatory problem. PCOS comes from inflammation inside the body. So if you treat all of that together,

then, you know, you won't display symptoms. I think the coolest thing about what you guys are doing is you're doing it together. I know. I love it. It's so fun working. I love it. How do you guys have such a great relationship?

What are the tips? If someone's listening and they're like, God, I wish I had a relationship like this with my parent, what would you tell them? Okay. Such a good question. And I'm going to share something, which is quite personal. But I started my first business with my husband.

And over the years, and he's a wonderful man, absolutely wonderful man. And this is your father? Yeah, is my father. Yeah. So, but over the years, the communication had, broken down to a point where I don't know how to put this. He's Italian so I feel like I don't know if that. Well we can't tarnish all Italians with that brush but but let's just say that he

wasn't conscious of his words and so sometimes he would say things to me that I would resent and that would accumulate you know it was like a little layer on top of each other and so the reason why I'm sharing this is that that eventually led to a break down of our marriage and a divorce, which is exactly how it should be for us in particular. But why I'm sharing this is with Roxy, working together, as I'm sure you will attest, is a beautiful thing, but it's also stressful at times. Yeah. Like there are times when the great thing I think is that you can be honest with each other. Like you guys probably don't waste any time.

I don't like that. We don't mince words. Yeah. Which is exactly what we do. like, if I don't like something or she doesn't like something, we'll say it so plainly without being worried about hurting each other's feelings, whereas someone that's not your family, you know, you're not going to say, oh, that's disgusting. Why would you do that? Or maybe we'd use different words. Yeah. Or like, you know, just like things that you, when you just say it more

plainly. No, but if you were with like a certain coworker and you say, I've got this great idea, they're like in it, they don't believe it. They're going to say, oh, I like this. But then we'll try. Like, we're like, hey, that's not. No, that's bad. cut off his body last night and giving me critical feedback while I was doing my nighttime routine. I was right on the feedback. No, you want. So it's challenging, but it's rewarding. Yeah, so much.

So I think our first year working together, we had to find the dance. Yeah. And also what's, but what's so beautiful is that we don't harbor feelings. And we can always, like, if I'm feeling a type of way, I'll just say, and then she'll say it vice versa. and then we'll move through it very quickly. It will be like a two second thing where we've had maybe we've had a bit of a heated discussion

and then two minutes later I'll be like, I'm really sorry, I feel that way because of X reason and she'll be like, no, I understand and this is why I reacted in X reason. And then we move on and then we're operating the business. So we're very, and that comes back to forgiveness is that we're not holding on to anything.

And communication and love and gratitude. And a lot of respect. And you want, it's, seems like you'd want to hang out with your mom. All the time. My mom is my favorite person to hang out with. Because we can just, like, be in silence and not speak and we don't need to say anything. You know, we just know what we're thinking and feeling.

And we have the same taste. And she trusts my areas of expertise. I trust her areas of expertise. And it just works that way where we're not, we have our set lanes and we're not kind of getting into each other's lanes. But we also respect each other's opinions. when we're talking about each other's lanes, if that makes sense. Totally.

If it reinforces what you guys are doing for the first part of my career, I worked with my father. Yeah. And we were partners and we built a great business together. And of course, like there was, you know, ups and downs. And I think the interest, the hard dynamic looking back, now that I've got a few years on me, with the parent, maybe, is watching your child do something.

And you're used to being the one who's kind of setting the direction and making the decisions. but then allowing for the space for them to have good ideas. Yeah. But then at the same time, allowing your parent to navigate that of it. So, like, me and my dad, we had a great working relationship. But there were some moments where it was like, I'm trying to fly. Yeah. And he's been flying.

Yeah. And we're trying to figure out how to make that work. And now it's, you know, one of the, we have a great, I just, I talk to him almost every day. And we have an amazing relationship. But it was an interesting, it's an interesting dance and dynamic for sure. Yeah. And I think that if you're, it's great because we work the same way also. So, you know, we operate the same way.

We hustle the same way. I'm very grateful that I learned that for my mother. You know, she's been working since the day I was born. I had my first job when I was three years old in the shop. I was a sales assistant at three. Self-appointed. You know, I would put products into people's baskets with my little lab coat that my dad made me. And I would say, you know, to the customer, you're going to buy this.

And she was a natural, honestly. But the best part about having a business partner like your mom, mother is you have someone that you for sure 100% know wants the absolute best for you. Exactly. That's a, and same with my wife and with me. But like sometimes you get into a partnership with people and that's like there's a lot of, you know, friction and maybe they have their interest and not yours. Yeah, exactly.

So that's so true. That way I know it's like fully trustworthy and that we're aligned on the vision. We're aligned on what we want to do. And, you know, we're always going to do what's best for the business. Not and what's best for ourselves is what's best for the business. If you both were to start with one product from your line, Roxy, I'll start with you. What would it be? I'm going to just say mine real quick would be definitely this, the rose quartz little roller ball lip balm. Yeah, the lip balm. It's got castor oil in it, which is honestly so incredible for lip products.

I love castor oil. I have it in my brow peptide. I love it. I'm a big castor oil fan, but it goes on so nice. I think you're wearing it too. It's really, we call it a bloss because it's not sticky, but it looks. glossy. It's beautiful. It's really, really nice. Because when, when mum was formulating it, I said to her, let's make something. Obviously, all our products are non-toxic and non-endocrine disrupting because that's really important to us. And I said, but all the natural ones don't have that glossy effect that I won. So can you make one that's like then? She just whipped it up. You know, our lab is in London. We make everything in London. So, you know, she, mum oversees the lab and the team. And they, you know, she went to the lab. She made it with them,

brought it back to me. I tried it. I was like, yeah, yeah, this is it. This is it. Which product would you start with? Yeah, so I would start with, it depends on, you know, all our treatments are targeted for different problems. For me personally, I can't live without our hormone check drops, which is a hormone balancing supplement. And it really reversed all my PCOS symptoms and got my period back, reduced the inflammation in my body, help me just, you know, self-regulate with the sort of neutral topics in it, but then also the blood sugar benefits. It's just got so many different things, like so many clients with endocrine disrupting problems or endometriosis, PMS. They all say that this is like a miracle treatment. I think what I will do because I feel like I'm having hormonal

acne, so I'll do the drops with the affirmations, with the spot treatment. And then also the serum hybrid moisturiser, which is our inflamaging skin solution. which basically gives you glass skin in one step, but it helps calm irritation and redness and sort of that inflammation that's happening on the skin. But it's kind of like a natural Botox in a bottle. That's really how it works, and it's so good. You know, the reason that you see this glow is partly because of that.

Yeah, your skin looks great. Yeah. What would you pick? It's the inflamaging skin solution. Okay, that's what you would pick. That's what I would pick because I've been wanting to formulate something like that for 30 years. Wow. And, you know, you either have to have like a light cream or a heavy one.

Yeah. And nothing in between. But this one, it's just, it's really rich, but really light. Yeah. Does it work on broken capillaries? Oh, so well. It reduces redness, inflammation, pigmentation. It's really good for, really, we got it independently tested,

and it got almost 100% in non-reactivity for all skin types. I love it. Yeah. We have a code. Yeah. Do you want to share the code? Tell us where we can go shop. So you can go to I-M-Wild, which is E-Y-E-A-M-Wild.com slash skinny, and you will get 30% off.

You guys gave us 30% off. That is so nice. I swear that the universe is listening because this conversation was so fulfilling. Sometimes conversations can be draining. This is definitely not. that's an affirmation I shouldn't say. But this was so fulfilling for me and it's so incredible and it's like

so weird that it happens today. Last prediction. Now that my demons have been cleansed and removed, what do you think is going to happen to me? Yeah, how will you feel? Like what am I supposed to notice now? So many blessings. Like imagine just every single door opening

that at super speed. And also peace, undescribable peace. Yeah. I think you're just peaceful for no reason. I think peace and joy and just a lightness and a clarity because, you know, the only voice that you should be hearing is the voice of God. Excuse me. Can you thank me for clearing your demon attachments? I think thank you and the guy. I want to see. I'm going to see if I see doors over it.

Blessing number one, me. Oh, for sure. For sure. I mean, you would have been carrying those guys till you. You're dead in the carpet. Imagine if you were with another girl. You would have had demons literally hanging on your shoulders. You had three in your bed. Think about all that I've done with 12 demons that I've been dragging around. You can still be successful. So imagine what you can do without them.

Wait a minute. What if it makes me less successful? No, it's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. It's the other way. All right.

Yeah. All right. I'll let you go. I'll keep you updated. Please. Call me the demon clearer. Thank you both. Thank you both.

Where can everyone find you both on Instagram to say hi to you two? Yeah, so my handle's Healing with Roxy. Cute. And Mums is just Margot Marone. Yeah. I love it. Big fan. Oh, thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.