The Sloppy Boys - 106. Death in the Afternoon

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

The guys make one of Hemingway's more questionable concoctions, combining absinthe and champagne.DEATH IN THE AFTERNOON RECIPE1.5oz/45ml Absinthe4oz/120ml ChampagnePour one jigger of absinthe into a champagne glass. Add iced champagne until it attains the proper opalescent milkiness. Drink three to five of these slowly.Recipe via Ernest Hemingway Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What is up, freaky stylies? Ooh, F-R-E-A-K? Uh, yep. Like the Nicky Yep. Like the Nicky song. How does she say it? She says F-R-E-A-K. I don't know if I like that. I dislike it. I think that song was supposed to be a hit and it came and went and it's gone. It's so on the nose. In the world of interpolations and samples and covers and stuff's gone. It's so on the nose. In the world of like interpolations and samples and covers and stuff like that,

it's just like, are we only getting around to Super Freak right now? I know. It did feel like that song was, she did it as, didn't she just have a baby? Am I wrong about that? Probably.

Damn. Babies having babies. But it felt like the type of song where it's like, I'm doing something else with my life. Yeah, let me do this quick. F-R-E-A-K. Great.

Let's pop that out. Pop in the studio for 15 minutes to record a hit single. Did you see Beyonce came out with her first TikTok? No. The youth were kind of dunking on her. Oh, was it out of touch? Yeah, it's just like, it's a slideshow of her signing records. And people were saying like,

Oh, she uses Tik TOK like she's 41. She is. Yeah. Cause Tik TOK is supposed to be like, uh, you're, you're unvarnished.

You're inside. I mean like fucking, it's like the one thing Beyonce can't do is just be like, what's up guys. I have no makeup on. And here's my raw thoughts. I mean, Cardi B literally, I don't know if it's TikTok or Instagram,

but she posts videos sitting on the toilet taking a shit. Like, yeah, I'm taking a shit. What? I downloaded TikTok on my phone and then kind of forgot I had it in the past two days. I was like, oh, yeah, I got TikTok. And I started looking at it, and it's such a fucking waste of time. There's so much. Michael, Mike.

I looked through it. No, it's like 15 minutes goes by. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing here while I'm looking at these people? I mean, the jokes are funny. What kills me about TikTok is when you watch a really long one and you think it's going to, like like resolve into something, it just doesn't. Oh, yeah. It's like watch till the end or something and you do and you're like, this wasn't anything.

Yeah. Not even it was like it was a bad joke. It just didn't even like have a thing to it at the end. I can't think of it. Yeah, like watch bait. I think they call that. And I couldn't tell you an example because I've watched so many that they all just wash over me. I don't know what I've seen.

And I couldn't tell you an example because I've watched so many that they all just wash over me. I don't know what I've seen. But Mike, did you spend enough time on it to where like you feel like the algorithm is starting to click and get you and send you stuff you like? Because that's the humpback. Yeah, it's like all I see is Wallace and Gromit clips. It's like, I don't care. I guess, I mean, I watch them on Netflix. I watch one a night, but still. My TikTok algorithm has like,

you know, all you hear about is how smart it is. And I believe it, but it's sort of, I've been trying to steer it in one direction and it's sort of jumped over. Like it won't listen to me. And it, but it has figured out my,

like, because I'll be like, I'll search like comedy, music, this, you know, like I'll be like searching and liking and following things that i wanted to show me and then it'll it just like will keep showing the lowest common denominator bullshit

but that i do love you know well that's but did you have you followed maybe i don't know if i follow anyone and i haven't liked anything yet i've been you got it you got to like i've been doing a lot of liking what i what i'm most interested in is music-y inside. Like this sample is this. And like I'm trying so hard to see more of that. Or Jeff, you sent that TikTok that was about. Was it the Michael Jackson stems? Oh, the Michael Jackson stems.

I was going to say the Giorgio Moroder backstory. Oh, yeah. I just want to see all the clips that use do ba do ba do ba do ba do ba do I hate that song I get a lot of the ones that have that voice that's like so you know like that AI voice that's like this

cheeseburger in New York is the best cheeseburger in New York is it the girl voice those are so funny because it's like it sounds really natural but then they'll stress strange syllables. Or they'll say, like, if you want. My girl and I are going to the store. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It's so bizarre. When you let him hit and he ugly. When you let him hit. i'll get i'll get a lot of the ones where there's like a nurse is like dancing well i think my phone figured i don't know what i clicked on but instagram is always trying to sell me like hair loss products and and like i so that's that's uh yeah there's a lot of them though and i've never bought a hair loss product but i'm 39 and i'm clicking around other men's stuff probably yeah so they figured that out but that's what's weird is like i'll get a lot of tiktoks that are like yeah either like

penis stuff or like it's it's just my age demographic like it'll be like a nurse that's dancing and then the facts are popping up around her and it'll be like it'll be like a nurse that's dancing and then the facts are popping up around her and it'll be like it'll be like facts about men's health i'm like i don't i don't think of myself that goes as a guy who goes to my phone for tons of men's health but what can i say it's like if you click on if you like look up one because i've done this before where i've looked up uh on instagram i've looked up up like one of those like art exhibits where it's like the whole room has like a,

I guess it's an installation maybe or I don't know what it's called. But you go into a room and like the whole art exhibit is like projected onto the wall. You know, that type of thing. And there's a bunch of those that pop up

and I just see tons of like, then I'll see tons of like just event, cool event type stuff on Instagram. And it's like, well, I didn't even look at this on Instagram, but now my phone knows about it. It knows. And I don't mind that it knows.

It knows. That could be a good Halloween movie. It knows. That's good. Oh, wait. And it follows sequel. Here's something I want to bring up during chit chat. Look what I have received in the mail.

I was just thinking about this today. My package was delivered to Tim. A package from Michael Hanford. The stickers stayed on. If you've been following at home, I got a book for Tim and mailed it to him. Soaking wet. I was soaking wet when I took it to the post office.

And the woman who worked there said these stickers might fall off i don't know if it's gonna get there well nothing fell off and i've just unboxed it and there it is born to run a hidden tribe super athletes and the greatest race the world has ever seen it's a jogging book and i am going to become a marathon runner it's a good nice tea it's a good book and you know where i got that because timid i just been telling them about it and then i'm walking into my apartment the other day and in the lobby area uh people will you know if they're moving out or something just leave stuff down there like you know for free i said what is that right there

i saw this book i said this is going this is going to the West Coast. That's good. I'm going to – here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to spend the rest of this month eating candy because it's Halloween, and then I'm going to wake up November 1st, David Ferguson's birthday, and I'm going to say no more chocolate treats. Instead, running all day every day. You'll learn about barefoot running in that book, and you'll be running all day every day. Yeah, barefoot running. You'll learn about barefoot running in that book,

and you'll be running barefoot. Ooh. I have been, you know how I'm keto now. I have been really doing pretty well on the no carbs. Really? Really. Yeah. I mean, I assume you have the occasional plate of fettuccine Alfredo. Pepperoni pizza.

No, I mean, yesterday it was a day of I was out, I watched a football game, and I had a slice of pizza and a hoagie. So that's got some bread in it. So that's not keto, but that's a keto cheat day, they say. Yeah, no, you're doing good. And also, it's Hanford Gets Healthy. It's not necessarily keto. It's just getting healthy. That's what I got to do, Hanford Gets Healthy. Yeah, I, it's Hanford Gets Healthy. It's not necessarily keto. It's just getting healthy.

That's what I got to do, Hanford Gets Healthy. Yeah, I got to do Hanford Gets Healthy. Mike, what does a typical keto meal look like for you? It is the stir-fry vegetables and protein. There you go. Today was like little steak cubes and the frozen stir-fry broccoli mix. So you're still doing protein for your bro team. That's right.

That's good to know. I am leaning into that M drive in the morning. I'll drink one of those in the morning. I'm like, hey, this does kind of stave me off until lunchtime. Pep you up? You know, I'm always pretty peppy in the morning. You know me. Good morning, world! what can i do today what can i learn what knowledge can i soak up how can i help my community

um we had m drive protein shakes as a as a sponsor and then i loved it and i drank all the stuff and then we went back and i said, Hey, can we, can I get some more free meat, free M drive? And they ghosted us. So, so this morning I, I went on and I, I ordered,

I ordered here. Here's where promo code sloppy. Yes. This is how far I've fallen. I'm using my own promo code. I paid money and I put in this promo code boys. Humiliating. Oh, it's promo code boys. That's so funny. How perfect

that's like you know, it's like my moment of in sideways when Paul Giamatti is sitting alone drinking the fancy wine out of like a paper cup. It was rock bottom moment. It's me using my own promo code. Tim tim you got a funny thing going on you got a good shirt on there

i like that shirt but the way you're angled right now it's a polo shirt and it's a black shirt but the collar is white and the way you're angled it looks like you're wearing a little towel around your neck like a little sauna usually if i do Usually if I do a press conference after the pod, I'll talk about how they do it. Especially with the mustache. I'm sure you got the chain on under there. You look like you're really coming from a sauna. Yeah, look at it. Yep, that's right.

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For to get a big sip of a paper plane Ha-hoo, Sloppy Boys Podcast Ha-hoo Ha-hoo, Sloppy Boys Podcast Stretch it out Ha-hoo, Sloppy Boys Podcast. Scratch it out. Ha-hoo. Bam. Well, I saw my camp walking with the bass.

First two. Doing the Sloppy Boys Podcast. I saw Tim Karpakis walking with an axe. I mean the Sloppy Boys podcast. I saw Dunn drinking a pina colada trade of dicks. His hair was purple. Blah, blah, blah. Nip.

Ha-hoo. Sloppy Boys podcast. Ha-hoo's news. Ha-hoo. All right. Sloppy Wolves was sent to us by Red Fabry. And if you have a Booze News theme, email it to thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. That was very Halloween appropriate. Yes, good pick. Very nice.

And we know Red Fabry. He's helped us. He's brought us some good stuff before. Oh, yeah. Well, I know him from the Discord, I think. Yeah. Should we roast him for having a long Booze News theme? Well, of course we should

because we've, you know, you can't, he, you know, there's an instrumental intro to that song. We don't need to hear it twice. We're familiar with the piano. But he didn't probably get the, he didn't get the note from last week because it

had an air to it. So we gotta forgive, we gotta forgive Fred. Yeah, and I mean, there's also like 40 more of them that I haven't gotten to yet that are too but yes props for singing about werewolves on our halloween episode and word of warning to you two uh today's top story uh involves a scary thing which is dragons oh holy shit before we get to those scary dragons, let me just reiterate, Red Fabric, Red Fabric, we love you. It was a funny song.

We're just roasting you. We roast the ones we love. Yep. We're like Jeff Ross. Yes. And the guy who used to say hockey puck. Who's that? We know this guy. Oh, Don Rickles rickles the guy we know don rickles

the guy who used to say hockey but mr warren himself okay well top story you knew we were going to talk about it it was the cocktail call out of the year the clip that broke the internet and served as a sexual awakening for millions two game of thrones house of dragon actors sat down to interview each other for a piece of ancillary promotional web content olivia cook asked emma darcy this question and got this answer hit the clip what's your drink of choice? A Negroni. I was going to say the same thing. Spagliato.

Oh. With Prosecco in it. Oh, stunning. Yeah. Stunning. Negroni Spagliato with Prosecco in it. Did this guy, this hit your feed? Sure did.

This hit my feed through you. You let me know, let us know what was going on i do not get the thing i don't get what's going on here but you've had a negroni yes yeah so now what's spagliato tim well spagliato is prosecco instead of gin um which i believe spagliato means like broken or. Yeah, it means like mistake. Mistake. Yeah. Accidental, which I can see people liking this drink. It doesn't sound like it's for me because the gin is the strong thing that keeps a Negroni rooted.

We're in for the gin. Yeah, we're in. We're in for the gin. And I feel like Prosecco Campari and Vermouth is a sweeter, bubblier affair. She sort of sold it though. The sensual way that Emma said this with Prosecco in it had people going nuts online. It became a TikTok trend where people were reacting to that. It became like a meme.

The meme usage was sort of like, this is how I found out that I'm queer or, you know, like that type of thing. Then there was, there were articles about, this has been going for a couple of weeks. There were articles about bartenders bracing themselves for the weekend to have enough Prosecco. Like, oh shit. Um, and, uh, here's what I'm wondering is this, the, does this dethrone Stanley Tucci as the number one viral Negroni clip of the decade? Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah.

Negroni clip of the decade. And we're only in year two of this decade. Yeah. Yeah. But we can call it. We've got eight more years. We're calling it. I don't know.

There's going to be a lot more good Negroni clips. We could just close up shop right now. Here's the funny thing, though. How often are we out there talking about cocktails? You and the three of us? Just three of us.

We've logged hundreds of hours. Yeah. Dude, I don't know if we ever set the world aflame the way that two attractive actors can do it in a snap. On a popular TV series. Well. That's what we need is the prestige TV. We need

prestige TV. Who's watching? Are you watching the new? I'm so happy to be skipping. I said I don't know what's going on here. I don't know. No Thrones, no rings for me. Because I was pretty, I watched Thrones original. Yeah.

And I got to the end of it and I said, you know what? I don't think I needed to watch all that. So I'm not going forward on this one, I don't think. You do the Rings? The Rings of Braum? You know, here's the thing I've been wanting to, because I do like the Lord of the Rings idea, like the world of it, and the Hobbits I think are cool. But, you know, I just haven't hit,

I hadn't hit that little triangle yet. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. The sideways one. Yeah. That's right. Tipped over just on its side, pointing to the right. Tipped over just so.

Yep. I haven't really, I've hovered on it. I haven't gotten the push down. You know when you're searching on your Apple TV and you press the microphone button and you talk into it oh yeah i have to tell mine like i'll have hbo max open and then i'll be like uh game of thrones and it shoots me back out to like the main screen and so so what i have to say is search hbo max for game of thrones and it's embarrassing to say all that. You know what you do, Tim?

I've noticed that you have to be like fully clicked into the search function of whatever app you're using for it to search within just that app. Okay. I don't have the letters popped up yet when I did that. Yeah, like you need to like the letters need to be up and your cursor needs to be like blinking in that bar. And then you don't have to say you don't have to waste all that breath. Shit, this is turning into an episode of Tech Talk. Yeah. You know what's funny?

It's a funny little party trick to do different accents into the thing. You know, like... A Negroni. Game of Spogliato. Spogliato. He would be searching that on... Of course, he would be searching that on TV,

but you know what I mean. I know what you mean, for mean. I know what you mean. I know. It's funny. Okay, next up in booze news, we have a special Halloween edition of a popular recurring segment. Hit it. Oh, boy. Hi, this is Neil Campbell with another edition of Campbell's Corrections.

This correction is in regards to the drink, the Alien Hatton, that I invented. It was claimed on the pod that I served that drink at a horror movie marathon. But, in reality, it was served at a screening of The Tomorrow War, the alien movie starring our friend Mike Mitchell. And if you'd like to learn how to make an alien Hatton which is sort of a bright green take on the Manhattan all you need to do is look up the recipe for the Midori Sour

then make that. And then you call it an alien Hatton. This has been Neil Campbell with another edition of Campbell's Corrections. Wow. Wow.

That's good. Yeah, he's... Did he have the music on the last Campbell's Corrections? I think it's just whatever's playing in his study when he... Oh, I see, I see. Yeah. That's the Alien Hatton. That's good.

Now, did he name it the Alien Hatton because alien ends in an N and Manhattan has the N, that's where he would pick up the word Manhattan. I think the obvious thing would be alien teeny and he wanted to not do the obvious thing. Yes. Yeah. It was alien teeny. I like a Midori sour and hey, we've talked about this. Midori is having a comeback.

There are articles saying in the sort of winky, ironic way, people stop drinking Midori because it's so sweet. But now it's kind of popping up in New York again. Oh, Tim, you've been hot on this little narrative for the year. I recently was at Benihana, and I got a Midori on the rocks. And ooh, it was way too sweet to drink. If you put some seltzer on top or something. Another Midori? Yes, I'll have one more.

And what is the flavor of Midori? Melon? Yeah, it's a certain type of Japanese melon that I forget the name of. Damn. It is. What's lychee? Lychee, I believe. I don't know, but lychee martini is a very popular drink and they have it at Benihana as well.

I think it's like a big grape. Like it's got a skin on it or something. I mean, I can picture it. I can't say that I've ever eaten one. I'm thinking that's the melon you're talking about. No, that's not a melon. This is like a red. It's a red sort of rind with little bumps on it, and then it's white in the middle.

Yes. I'm looking at the Midori. Here's the tagline for Midori. It's a sweet, bright green colored liqueur made by Suntory flavored with Yubari and muskmelon. Ooh, muskmelon. Mmm.

Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit! Oh, Campbell has corrected us, and there you have it. In reality. I'd like to hear how he came up with the alien hat name and why he picked that, just because it's green, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You. Yeah. You got to love them. Should we get into the drink of the week? Well, not if we don't wrap up booze. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. We're stuck in here forever.

Let me just wrap this up. Okay. And that should do it. Yeah, nice. Nice job, Jeff. You really wrapped that up. Okay. Let's get to the, let's get to it hmm

the drink of the day yes yes yes my fucking tabs went crazy i need those tabs if i'm gonna be talking about the drink of the day all right my question to you and the listener at home what is your favorite uh ernest hemingway novel? Oh, my God. I mean, I have to go Farewell to Arms. Okay. I'm going Sun Also Rises. Ah, I wish you'd both said Death in the Afternoon because that is the name of the drink we're doing today.

I wish you'd both said. I had wished that. It was my most fervent wish. Now, Mike, you said death, and when I heard one of those words, death, I got scared, and I was like, yeah, this is the Halloween episode. A shock went down my spine. That's OK to think that, especially this time of year.

Great. You hear that. Oh, you say you kind of. Right. It does shudder. I mean, it's freaky because last week, blood and sand. This week, death in the afternoon. I mean, this is.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing that we should just acknowledge that there's not a lot of Halloween cocktails. You know what, Jeff? I want to... Let's say that because I do want to get into that in the meat of the episode. That would be a nice sip and chat moment. Let's save it.

Because I do have much to say about that. Oh, God. Oh, great. But now I want to have much... I might sit that segment out if that's okay. Folks, why don't you get your finger over that double triangle? Yeah, it's crucianus all you want as long as you're paying for the Patreon. Get ready to click on that clockwise circle arrow.

Oh, that's the one, yes. Yes, back 15 seconds to hear more, more, more of the handman dish. I'm so thrilled. All right, all right, all alright. Let's cool it on the mockery for just a moment. Ernest Hemingway, Death in the Afternoon. He invented this drink. Isn't that cool?

Very cool. It's one of many. Yeah, he's made up a couple. He did the DAC. He made the DAC. The Hemingway DAC-er. Well, this was invented, I want to say, his book was, Death in the Afternoon book was written in 32. The first instance of this recipe written down was from a cocktail book in 1935. So he invented it between 32 and 35. And the recipe was published

in a book called So Red the Nose or Breath in the Afternoon, which was a cocktail book with, I think, like 30 famous writers of the time came up with cocktails. Damn. So if they're saying Breath in the Afternoon, that's kind of a play on, like, this must have been almost the titular drink of the book. Ah, yes, yes. Interesting. Do you guys know what Death in the Afternoon is about?

It's about bullfighting. It's about bullfighting. It's about bullfighting. Again? Which is, yeah, Blood and Sand was a, oh, yeah, well, here's the difference. The subtle, we talked about this recently about how back in the day, people, like, now the hot shit is to just write an autobiography and that's what sells. Right. But back in the day, you used to just, like, write a novel that happened to you and you change the names uh so uh sun also

rises is like him and the lost generation gang from paris going to pamplona but he changed a few of the specifics whereas i i have not read death innoon, but I feel like this was his foray into like nonfiction. Like it's really just a book about bullfighting and it's not even a story as much as like here. Here's what bullfighting is. It's funny you say you. Yeah, I guess it is about bullfighting. I don't know. I always just thought it sort of contains deeper contemplations on the nature of fear and courage.

But yeah, I guess it is about. Oh my God. Oh, my gosh. Holy shit. Wow. Yeah, I guess it is about. You think that? I think that. Me and the editors at Wikipedia.com.

All right. All right. So he invents this book or he invents this drink. He was drinking like a lot of absinthe when he was spending a lot of time in the left bank of France. And absinthe is in this drink. And the only story about how he vetted this drink, it wasn't

like he saw this and this and it came together. It doesn't even say really why he named it this. But he and four other let me just read it off. Three other officers on the HMS Dayanae, after having spent several hours overboard trying to get Captain Bray Sanders' fishing boat

off a bank where she had gone up in a northwest gale. So this fishing boat had gone amok, gone asunder. Gone amok, gone asunder. And these four guys like spent many hours trying to get this boat off and during that time he came up with this drink. I don't really know if they just were drinking on

the, like while they were doing this or what, but that's all we got. The funny thing to me is like, so Absinthe and Champagne, this drink that we're gonna have sounds that sounds very hemingway and i and him coming up with it during like very very french yeah is like a very thing thing for him to do and then you say it's from a celebrity cocktail book that'll

make sense or writer cocktail book the funny thing to me is him naming it after his own book like you would think that he would just give it a cool name and it's like, here's this drink. I like to make champagne and absence, but maybe I wonder if it was like a, I like a, like a promotional thing. I don't know.

It's like if I invented a drink and I called it a night flight, fantastic. My, um, Timmy St. Rock album. Or Tim presents the Santa Ana Spritz. Yeah.

Hey, that could have been good. Yeah, it's all very strange and weird to me. Well, what's in it? It's just those two things? Just those two things. One and a half ounce of absinthe and four and a half ounces of chilled champagne and the way that old Hemmers himself describes how to do it. Pour one jigger

absinthe into a champagne glass. Add iced champagne until it attains the proper opulescent milkiness. Drink three to five of these slowly. Great. And we all know the correct opula... Yeah. Of course you don't have to drink three to five.

That's what's so funny about a lot of these drinks from like in these cocktail books from way back when. It was just like until it just hits that right thing that we all know about. It's like what the fuck are you talking about? Did you say there was ice in champagne or just it's really cold? Really cold. But you could add ice, I think, if you wanted to. But the Liquor.com steps are pour absinthe into a coupe and top slowly with champagne. So are you guys going to drink three or five?

Well, I guess you could drink four. It says three to five. Yeah, three to five. Liquor.com does say, of course, you're free to consume fewer than the recommended dose. I think that's another thing that the old-timey cocktail books did was we had another one like this and the zombie and the scorpion and stuff where it's like,

it'll give you the recipe and be like, if five of these you shall drink, then you shall find that you shall stink. Oh, Corpse Survivor had a thing like that where it's just like, well, careful, if you have too many,

the corpse will unrevive. So now, this drink is sometimes called a Hemingway cocktail or a Hemingway champagne, and on this other website that had the recipe suggested putting some simple syrup in it, which we are not going to do, but they said that we found it needs just a bit

of sweetness to make it palatable. So I'm very curious, like, is this going to be a raunchy drink? Is this going to be non-palatable? I got syrup. I'll do that round too. I guess it depends when if you've got four ounces of champagne and you're pouring until you reach the

what was it? Opaque milkiness? Opalescent. Milkiness. Does that mean opal? What is opalescent? I think it means like opulent cloudiness. I think it's pearl-like. Oh, maybe opaque. So that's the thing is like I want to stop before I add too much champagne so that it's milky.

But I bet also then if it's too strong, you probably just add more champagne to it. And I was reading – maybe it was liquor.com, I forget. But had like the reason it does absinthe kind of like once you pour the champagne in, the things in the absinthe. Like this wouldn't happen with normal liquors, but there's something in absinthe that like it breaks apart and the particles fall to the bottom. I don't know. That's what like, you know, when you get absinthe at a cocktail bar or something, they want to like have it over a spoon drip. Yeah. There's something all about that.

I didn't really look into absinthe. So we're in for a little science. Yeah. Actually, let me see if. I didn't really look into absinthe. Oh, so we're in for a little science. Yeah. Actually, let me see if I can find it. I can read it to you right here. You know, the cocktail's opulescent milkiness occurs when the champagne hits the absinthe. The aromatic compounds in absinthe are more soluble in alcohol than in water. So when the absinthe is diluted, those compounds drop out of the solution and crowd together.

What we see is cloudiness. This process is evident in the classic absinthe drip, which combines absinthe with cold water and sugar. So there's something with absinthe that we don't know. I got to watch closely. And then when I see the right swirly milkiness, I got to stop pouring. You know, what's funny? Maybe absinthe was so much more in vogue when he was writing this, like, until it reaches the

proper milkiness, like, everyone would just know what that is. Right. You know what I mean? Well, they also told us one of those recipes said, ounce and a half absinthe, four and a half champagne, right? Four, yeah, four. Right. Well, have you seen the video for Nine-inch nails perfect drug you are the perfect drug yeah i like that song am i goth uh i'm goth now mike that could

be your whole thing the goth keto hippie is goth now oh Yeah. Chipped up the sauce now. Um, what was I? You should fly. Oh, in that music video, Trent is doing the, the,

the water over the sugar cube pour, and they do kind of make a meal out of the swirly. I did it with my college roommate cliff. We got the slotted spoon and we did that. Uh, but we didn't trip balls. Yeah, me neither. You know, he lost me at the spinning hog head. I'll tell you.

Hurt video years before. Is it hurt? Yeah, it is, isn't it? That guy. That guy. He is on another plane, man. He's incorrigible. I love to touch is on another plane, man. He's incorrigible. I love to touch down on that plane every once in a while.

Go ahead. What was that, Tim? The Netflix version of Song Exploder has an episode of Hurt, but I haven't watched it yet. Oh, that ran away from me. I got to watch that again. The Song Exploder show. The first season. It was weird.

They didn't. The Song Exploder show. The first season, I felt like it worked better as a podcast than a show, but then they did a second season with bigger name, bigger songs, Dua Lipa and The Killers and Nine Inch Nails, and it's better because you're like, these are famous songs. Well, cool. You guys want to get into it, and we will come back with Death in the Afternoons in Hand? Yeah, and you saying that name reminded me death,

Halloween, scary. Yeah. Yep. All right, cool folks. Meet you back here after this. And we're back.

Death in the afternoons in hand. Check out this opalescent milkiness. Yeah, I didn't really get the opalescence. Did you see it happen? I saw it cloud up. Yeah, I was adding one ounce at a time of the champagne. First ounce, no milkiness. Second ounce, no milkiness. Second ounce, no milkiness. Third ounce,

opalescent. That looks like straight piss. No milkiness at all. Oh, Mike, you're pissed, dude. I'm not pissed. I think you might need more champagne to get the cloud going. Yeah, but if I do more champagne, it won't... Well, let me try, because I got a little room left. Hold on. Talk amongst yourself.

Stop. Can I be honest? I didn't Hold on. Talk amongst yourself. Stop. Can I be honest? I didn't use champagne. I used Prosecco. Prosecco. Yep. Spagliato. I used Gorbel.

I used La Marca, I think. Yes. I used Mantelvini. It's a Prosecco. Yeah, we all used the little dudes, right? Yeah. Little tiny champagnes? Babies. Those are not prepared in the traditional method,

and you can tell because the punt isn't in there. I couldn't get my thumb in the punt. Yes. Those are individually bottled after the fermentation, I guess. Well, this isn't really milky, but I also can't pick it up now because it's filled to the way top. Alright, let's take some sips. Alright.

Smells like good and plenty. Ooh! Eee! Mmm. Zap! Zap! Zow! I don't know. Yeah yeah I don't know about that how do we feel about a little simple syrup round two

yeah for sure also I should ask I need to add my fourth ounce of champagne zap some bad faces over there wincing it really does fill up the chest with that warm

warm feeling filled up my chest with with uh fucking heartburn we've come across this sort of thing before where if you have a pungent taste a unique taste it's better as a smaller more potent thing you don't want to sit with something even if you like fernet even if you like malort you don't want to drink six ounces of it yeah it's you want it in how it comes sure yeah i don't get uh making a cocktail that tastes like this i guess is what i'm saying and that i'm remembering now this absence i've had it for two years because we had it in our zombie and it was only a teeny little dribble jeff i think you have the same absence as me isn't this like 150 proof or it's like it's like really crazy damn maybe not that much

hundred proof but yeah it's an interesting taste yeah it's good and plenty it's appropriate for halloween because it tastes like good and play a popular halloween cake it's good and plenty. It's appropriate for Halloween because it tastes like good and plenty, a popular Halloween candy. It's actually stinkier and more pungent than good and plenty. You know, I don't, you know me, I don't like champagne drinks. But this one really, you don't taste the champagne much at all.

No. It's so absentee. Yeah. Wow. I'm seeing a lot of frowns in this little Zoom screen here yeah it's it's kind of just like a shock look like uh i i'll tell you what i felt i was just thinking that this might be the first time on the pod that i have trouble getting through my round one i felt like a wimp that i'm hemingway drinks this all the time and I can't hang man you know he's in his own world

he loved to drink all the time and he's an old timey alpha dog and we're like new school sigma chads yeah he was like a a fisherman and a big game worker we're tougher than him and it's just like a whole different thing it's different era of alphas

yeah so yeah don't don't measure yourself because he also was writing this stuff like he was a fiction writer you know so he's he made up a lot of here's a very fascinating thing about uh old hemi um that i don't know if you know about where hemin's uh you know a year ago there was a Ken Burns doc series. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. I must have watched it all. Oh, my God. Well, they sort of. I love saying something like that and just getting, oh, my God, with no follow-ups.

Like, holy shit, that's awesome. Well, here's an interesting thing that they posited that I hadn't heard before. So, you know, a big part of Hemingway's thing is like, you know, he's like trying to be so macho, right? And a lot of that is sort of like, oh, he saw his dad as this macho figure. So he spent a lot of his life like being macho and stuff like that. But there's also this element that they like his. He had an unfinished novel when he died that was like that touched on gender fluidity and stuff like that right and then also in the bedroom uh earnest lovers uh have said that earnest like to be called catherine

when making love so um there's sort of this in the documentary they're kind of talking it's possible that earnest hemingway was trans before ernest knew what the deal was with that type of stuff and everything and it because we're talking about the 300 years ago or whatever right but it reminded me of an interview i saw with uh caitlin jenner talking about where it was like early on saying like oh i didn't feel comfortable in my body but if i was being forced to be a man i was going to be the most manly man possible and be a decathlete and when you think of that that it's like oh wow yeah caitlin jenner like what would be more manly than being an olympian

and running and jumping and winning gold medals and stuff so their um hemingway may have had a little bit of that thing of like i'm i'm gonna be like as macho as possible to counteract this damn well i'm adding the caitlin jenner element but but ken burns yeah he posits that the drink the drink it's the drink that stinks i can't are you guys gonna i can't drink this you have to or you're a bad journalist podcaster i'm just gonna get so drunk i think i'm gonna drink and i might i might use my second round uh because i've got an idea for a little something to add for my second round, uh, cause I've got an idea for a little, something to add for a second round, but, uh,

I might just add it to this, you know, like drink half of this and add my, that's fair. My little thing. You know, we got to do a good drink after this. I feel like,

uh, blood and sand in this, um, are bad and I'm having a bad time. It was, it gets Halloween. We're trying to, we're trying to stick with like a spooky theme and like,

yeah, this leads me perfectly. Thank you, Jeff. This leads me right into what I was wanting to talk about in this, just exactly this section of the episode. Right. I'm going to go lay down for a second. Yeah, take your time. Jeff, you don't even have to be here for this.

I want to talk directly to the audience. I want to give them a view into what we do. So audience, so when we were trying to figure out what drink to do, I was looking for, I just kept looking up like mummy cocktail, vampire cocktail, because I wanted to make something very... Festive.

Clearly a Halloween thing. Yeah. Death in the afternoon, your brain has to do a tiny bit of a stretch, not much, but I wanted to really... The ghost cocktail, right? And it couldn't be found there was like i i found one called the mummy it was like made i remember you texted it out and then tim said after like after like a day and a half went by tim revived the chain it was just like this is cool cool, I'm not sure it exists. It was like one guy's Tumblr.

There were different versions of the mummy cocktail on different people's blog. It wasn't anything official. And then we found something else, but I couldn't find just like the werewolf drink. But there's the need for it. Everyone is

having Halloween parties. I think the problem is that a lot of the parties are for kids, so you're making like eyeball spaghetti or something, but you don't know. I've been to an adult Halloween party. It was very fun. There's a lot of attempts. You found another, a more popular one called

the Vampire's Kiss Martini that was red and had Chambord in it. But we couldn't find like a history on it or if any bartender had ever made it but it's there is a very large world that we haven't touched on yet in this pod of like almost just like they feel like mommy blogs but they're almost like foodie sort of like oh it's like arts and crafts more than it is like cocktails and they're definitely holiday fodder for those a google search like what you did it's it's not about cocktails and and bartenders it's more like 11 drinks to make at your halloween party uh-huh but they're sort of user uploads or they're invented by thrillist or something like that the quintessential one is like

not the there's something that you you you'll realize you're looking at one of these things we're talking about when you have to like add more craft to the glass itself. Like you need to draw like fangs on the glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was expecting the mummy to be like, get your toilet paper and wrap the outside of the mason jar. Dunk your toilet paper and vodka and eat it like it happened um this one when we looked at pictures online of death in the afternoon it looked more yellow to me but my absinthe is green and this does look sort of fun it's a pale green it's a um i'm surprised though there isn't one go-to drink that has dry ice in it

there's not like one stunt drink called like the test tube or something that would be good for Halloween I think there's not one go-to there's like a bunch I think the Vampire's Kiss one of the things I found did have like

careful it has dry ice I had one at um I want to say that Austin Powers bar rest in peace I loved that bar it was cheesy as fuck but I went several times that was kind of like your daily watering hole post work they know me down there they love me

Mimi set me up with another stinger they had a um they had all their drinks were called like uh called like the mojo the the blue crushed velvet soup what was the cat's name mr bigglesworth they had one of those but uh the i think it was called the mojo it had dry ice in it and it was it was good you know i remember the one time i went there it was like three of us got the same drink and they were all in different types of glasses like one was like a plastic cup one was they were basically they were just running out of like

stuff yes in the back i want to say flatware but that's not right glassware what's flatware silverware flatware i want to say silver. Or plates. Cutlery. Cutlery, my boy. Plates make sense. Plates are flat. Oh, no, you might be right. Plates. And saucers. But not bowlware. That's something else.

Curveware. Or bowlworth. You get your flatware and your curveware. Curvedware. Set the table with curvedware. We're having puddings. Set curvedware up. Set the table with curvedware.

Yeah. We're having pudding. Set curvedware up. Both small handheld curves and larger table curves. Yes. Why don't you do it, mom? All right. Can we take a break and fix this fucking thing?

Yep. Sure. All right, folks. We need to adjust. I'm like not even a third through this. No, no. I had two sips. All right, folks, we need to adjust. I'm like not even a third through this. No, no. I had two sips. All right, folks, we'll see you back here after we correct this monstrosity.

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Yeah, but you made the podcast logo. Jeff, I took a little page out of your book and did a little squeeze of lime. Ooh, that's a smart move. Always welcome. Because I'm thinking to myself, Hemingway, Key West, he was in Key West, Key Lime Pie. I have a lime.

Yeah. And the Hemingway Dak had lime in it, yes? Um, yes. Ooh! And the Hemingway Dak has grapefruit in it, but... That did not help. Ooh! No?

Oh, that's weird yeah lime time uh yeah oh grapefruit and lime in the hemiway deck tim take it away i added a simple syrup and it helped a lot nice yep i put truly made it palatable i put i put three quarters of an ounce which is kind of a lot but it did help i did a nice little what we would call a dram, just a little sploosh. A little dram buoy. Take the edge off a little bit. Oh, my gosh. This actually makes it like, I still don't like it.

It tastes like a drink now. It doesn't offend me. Yeah, it's like within the sweet spot. I agree. It's weird how sugar can just round off that edge. Yeah. Mine definitely tastes better before I did this lime this is this is bad bad idea okay like and now i gotta drink it shit i get it i get it now also i saw uh i saw a tweak on the blood and sand that people said was much better by upping the i want to say both the orange juice and the scotch so less

vermouth less what was the other thing cherry hearing interesting that is weird i would acid adjust the orange juice and increase the scotch we gotta find that acid adjusted orange juice we need citric acid i mean i bet we could get it off fucking Amazon. You could brush it off of some Sour Patch Kids. Ooh, Michael did not like that sip. No, now it's really like each sip is like difficult to go down. Well, Mike, why don't you, this dovetails nicely, and I think maybe your final thoughts. Yeah, no, this is not an order again for me.

It was before I put the lime in. You know, I'm going to rethink this. Hold on a second. I did not have a bad time drinking this before, before I put the lime in. The lime was a bad idea. It's a very, it's an order again. It's an order again? Is it? No, I'm thinking very... Is it order again? It's in order again? Is it? No, I'm thinking, is it in order again?

Maybe it was. The whole time. You seem to have lost track. Night Shyamalan would be proud. The whole time? It was in order again the whole time? Damn. I guess that's what's so spooky about this Halloween episode.

Nothing is as it appears. It's so weird. You can spend an hour drinking a drink, not liking it, and then it turns out it wasn't a good one. You want another one. The whole time it was good. Wow. No, I can see myself at a cocktail bar with friends and being like, oh, yeah, you know, since I know about this drink now,

I'm going to get the death in the afternoon. What did you say? Why did I order that? Well, it was based on a Heffingway novel. And sure, he thought of it. It took seven hours to get a guy's boat off. And, yeah, that boat did eventually was part of the – one of the cruisers that

was part of the Normandy invasion, yes. Okay. That is true. Damn. I like this part, you learn a little something. You learn a little something, but you kind of, you read through it quickly, and you kind of, after you say like, I think that's what it was. A little slapdash, but

you learn a little something. Sure, sure. You learn enough to, when you're out drinking with friends you can kind of uh say stuff and it sounds true i'll say this how dare hemingway suggest you drink three to five of these yeah he holy shit he's got a real iron uh is he taste impaired was his tongue injured in the war? Or just like, I'm all right. I'm still not, now I've had about a two-fourths, no, about a, what would you say this is? Two-fourths. Two-fourths, a half. Yeah, two-fourths.

And I'm feeling it. It's a weird way of saying you've had half your drink. I've had about two-fourths. That's what I'm saying. I'm feeling it. I'm calling a half two-fourths. No, you're right. Because I've had about 16, a half to four. No, you're right. Cause I've had, I've had about 1630 seconds over here.

I've had about 3264. All right. Wise guys. I can see the, this drink has turned you guys into some wise guys. You know, usually when you're mixing up a drink, there's like a strong thing. And then I think that has no alcohol, but if this was a jigger of absence and then a thing that has no alcohol. But if this was a jigger of absinthe and then four ounces of champagne, this is a very boozy drink.

Sure, sure. And I'm a little hot in the face. If you had five of these, I would be shithouse. Maybe that's why it took him seven hours to get that boat off the thing. You know, I was hoping this would be a brunch drink. It was.

It was suggested in the article I read that it could be a brunch drink. But is that what it means? Like, oh, death in the afternoon. Like, hey, it's a brunch drink, but careful. You know, you're going to be hungover midday or it's going to put you out. If you had it as a brunch drink. This is bad. This is bad.

I don't like it. This is second drink in a row I think is bad. It's making me rethink the pod. November, we get back on good drinks. Yeah, we should stop the pod for sure. Tim, your thoughts, please. Submit them to the group. You just reminded me of a brunch drink we should have is the Kerr, K-I-R.

It's like champagne and creme de cassis. Ooh. Hell, why don't we make it next week's episode? Oh, no. Well, okay. Okay, fine. That's you guys in a nutshell.

Anford's so easily, wow, we're making it next week's episode. And Jeff, strong opinion on that. No, no, I'm cool. I'm cool like you guys. Oh, okay. See, for me, this is how this podcast breaks down. The drink, the cocktail of the week

is a mere suggestion for conversation and options. And it's because, Jeff, it's because I come from a world where the music that I listen to is very jam-based. It's very you start in one place and you explore. Sure. You are computer music.

It's one, zero, zero. They can be in interesting places. Right. But it's science. Yeah, it's true. Here's an accusation. Here's me confrontation, I mean. Jeff, you say that you're's an accusation. Here's me confrontation. I mean, Jeff, you say that you're cool

and you don't say no to things. Me and Hanford wanted to do an Oktoberfest episode about Oktoberfest beer and you said no. And we've done episodes about Bud Light Seltzer this and Bud Light Seltzer that, but we can't have a spotting Oktoberfest beer. Tim, I don't recall this conversation. Was it worth it?

You're getting yelled at. You're drinking a drink you don't like. You're getting yelled at. Yeah, I don't know. Look, folks, if you wanted to hear us talk about beer, hit us in the DMs. Of course they want to hear us talk about beer they'll listen to us drink the out of office seltzer pack

the cocktail is a mere suggestion it's a jumping off point yeah yeah yeah they're here for the crackling chemistry it's just a way people aren't coming out here to learn about the drink they want to know how many hours it took Hemingway to get the boat

this is mostly about a Hemingway boat. This is a Hemingway boat podcast. I do wonder how hard it is to listen. For people that know their shit, I've heard that people with perfect pitch have trouble listening to Van Halen because Eddie never tuned his guitar. That's probably why I never liked them. Keep going. because Eddie never tuned his guitar. That's probably why I never liked them.

Keep going. But don't you think that a person with maybe one degree of fundamental knowledge of alcohol would probably find this podcast unlistenable? Maybe. I don't know. Or maybe it might help them say, geez, you know what? It's all just fun anyway.

I mean, what if a mathematician tuned in and heard Hanford say he had two-fourths of his drink? He didn't even say two-quarters. He said two-fourths. Hey, if you're a mathematician and you listen to the pod, just let us know you're out there. I don't care how you do it. And is it okay that we're not reducing our fractions?

I quickly reduced the fraction. I knew what I was getting into. You know, a lot of times I'll do this thing where I'm like, I'll say, I'll get to the funny, I'll do a funny thing to get to the truth. I knew what I was getting into. You know, a lot of times I'll do this thing where I'm like, I'll say, I'll get to the funny, I'll do a funny thing to get to the truth. Sure. Oh, yeah. That's our show. Follow us on social media

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I binge it. We just talked about Nightmare on Elm Street and Hocus Pocus. These are the Halloween movies. That's cool. That almost makes me want to subscribe even just this weekend. Like, oh, it's Halloween weekend. I'll subscribe to the Patreon so I can hear those scary movie episodes. And then as it rolls into November, I forget to unsubscribe, you know?

Yeah, too much Halloween partying you forget. Yep, and then I pass away in my sleep and my family never stops the subscription. No, no, we wish long lives to each and every Patron. That's true. We are, we're wrapping up the episode, so I don't want to get into this too much. But there's got to be, there's got to be a funny turn of phrase or something about a podcast about taking baths and you scrub scribe to something or something scrub scribe. Scrub scribers, yeah. Scrub scribers.

Scrub slimers. It's bath day again. We're doing bubbles. Scrub slimers. Yeah. Well, we. It's bath day again. We're doing bubbles. Scrubbed Slimers. Yeah. Well, we did a take a bath episode. We didn't come up with that.

In the Patreon. Hey, I didn't give my final thoughts on the drink. You were, yeah, Jeff. What a poorly hosted pod. Tim, why don't you go ahead and do that? I'm not allowed to do an Oktoberfest beer episode. Now I can't even give my final thoughts on the death of... This is my first time ever. Will not order again.

Stone cold shitter. Bad drink. Not even going to finish it. You've had a not order again before, haven't you? No, I've had some sort of conflicted, like, I'll drink it in the right context. But this is the first time on the podcast that I haven't finished round one and I won't.

Wow a damning appraisal. Sorry Ernest. A condemnation from the cat man. Ernest maybe if you spent less time on your fucking fishing boat and more time in the taste kitchen you could have dialed in the recipe.

Spend less time on your phone. On your rotary phone, probably. Dialing everybody left and right all over Cuba. Oh, my God. I got to make a TikTok video about that. I'll get some old-timey outfits, get a rotary phone, and be like, oh. Dial it up and say, oh, Neville, tell me about somebody wearing their knickers, you know, something. Yeah, yeah.

Tell me about a cat falling off its tree. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Is somebody dancing a waltz to a marimba, maramba? I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. marimba maramba i don't know you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely is anyone planking where you are describe it to me never yep all right i'm gonna do that tick tock all right i am gonna finish this drink though in solidarity because adding the syrup is the way to go folks if you try it it's worth trying if you add a little syrup. Yeah, I'm going to put syrup in mine now. Otherwise, I think this is a skip. It's a scary drink for a scary holiday. Mike, you

wanted to order it again. Nah, I probably won't. This is not good. Maybe make this with green chartreuse instead if you want a green drink. Or just go get yourself a little green food coloring and then anything can be green. Yeah.

All right, folks. This is an okay episode. Actually, great episode of bad drink. Well hosted. Yeah, thank you. I mean, we're all the hosts. I don't mean to say that I'm the host. No, you did a great job. We all did.

A lot of people online are saying, like, well, they'll go online, they'll log in to their favorite message board, and they'll say, Tim is pretty much my boy at this point. I love Tim, and I love his two co-hosts. Oh, okay. Nice. Interesting stuff. Folks, it was a good time

hanging out. Let's meet back here same time next week. Works for me. Yeah, that should work for me. It'll be November. Bye, folks. Bye. Bye. Give it up for your boys.

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