The Sloppy Boys - 127. Angel Face

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

The guys return to the IBA with an Unforgettable from Harry Craddock's Savoy Cocktail Book that promises to give its drinker a "smiling angel face."ANGEL FACE RECIPE1oz/30ml Gin1oz/30ml Apricot Brandy1oz/30ml CalvadosPour all ingredients into a cocktail shaker filled with ice cubes. Shake and strain into a chilled cocktail glass.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What is up? And we're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys. Nice intro, Jeff. Nice. Thanks. Took a lot out of you, huh? And you know, they know we're a band, right? They should. We're a good band. We play music. I actually play guitar myself.

And me? I'm all over the keys, baby. And the sax. No. No, that's not right. I'm mostly bass. You're all over the car keys when you're driving to practice. And me? I play the kick drum and sometimes the snare the thlomper you gotta hit those toms man i'm telling you one day i got my eye on those toms yeah you can do it you just have to jump out of that set beat that you're in and make a little puddle fill in there, Jeff. Michael, you are more of a tom drum player, I've noticed.

I hang by the toms. I'm always... Remember, early on, you'd really have to nudge me to play a tom. Now it's second nature. I admire both of your ability to play a drum fill and then land back on the beat. Because me, if I veer away from that beat, I ain't going back. That's your one shot.

The rest of the song is one long fill. Animal from the Muppets. We look back, we're like, get back on the beat. You're like, no, I can't. I'm out here, man. He won't stop filling. It's too full. I'm on the other side of the drum set just hitting the top.

Wow. I remember in grade school, the music teacher would come around and be like, who wants to do instruments? Because we didn't have to do an instrument. And it'd be like, we have all types of things. Flutes, and you can do trumpet, and drums. And everyone's like, ooh, drums? He's like, well, you start out with a snare drum.

And it's like, oh, OK. You'll learn rat-tat, rat-tat-tat. Paradiddle. Paradiddle. There's so many things like that, like karate. Yeah, yeah. You really go in and they're like, first you have to learn how to stand. I hate that.

I did a karate class and it was probably right in the middle of my turtle time. Sure. And my mom was like, I did a lesson and she was like did you like it i was like it's okay because i think i wanted to like do flips and stuff she's like well if it's just okay we're not gonna pay for it i was like yeah that's fine it's um it is i hate that when teachers of anything you can feel they're almost like smug when they're like actually class is not gonna be fun and it would be like yeah we we grew up in like the ninja era it would be very cool to learn some ninjutsu that was like fun but they teachers love to make you wax on and wax off i had a guitar i took a few guitar lessons and i went to

the guys like so what uh what type of music do you like? And I was like, well, I like Phish a lot. And he's like, you guys come in here. Everyone wants to learn how to play Phish and Metallica. Those are very difficult. I'm struggling with them. I was like, okay, so we'll just never get around to it. Nobody wants to play Hot Cross Buns anymore? Seems like you and I are the only ones who play hot cross buns anymore um did you ever play a song in when you start an instrument that was called um start today

no a song yeah it was it's like it was start today start today go on out and start today it's like you would play it on a recorder It's a very low key song Go on out and start today It was probably the B side To Hot Cross Buns when that first came out Now isn't Mary Had a Little Lamb just Twinkle Twinkle Little Star same song? Same melody that's right

Who's getting away with that? No alphabet song is Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. Yeah. Alphabet. A, B, C, D, little star, yeah. That was a good mashup. How I learned to spell your name. Oh, baby.

Stop. Stop. You got to get jazzy with the song, my man. Oh, God. That makes me want to go to Booze News. Thank you. This is the shittiest shit talk we've ever done. Booze News.

Hit it. I was going to say, yeah, none of us brought pizza. But here's the thing. I am a pizza nerd. I love pizza. Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo!

I love pizza. Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! I love pizza. You guys know it. Tim Loves Pizza was sent to us by Blair Perry. And if you have a Booze News theme, email it to thesloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. That's good. That was a good one.

That's a good name too, Blair Perry. Nice Blair. I sounded sloppyboyspodcast at gmail.com. That's good. That was a good one. That's a good name too. Blair Perry. Nice Blair. I love gold. He's the head of the Midas touch. I was talking about pizza and then I sneezed. That's what was going on there. Yeah, and I thought you were like doing a yeehaw. Like, I love pizza. When I'm down in Texas, I eat pizza!

Did we, in that episode, did one of us say it sounded like the Blur song? Or did Blair just take that? No, that's all Blair. You can't take that from them. That's all Blair. Genius. Good. That's Blair Perry for you.

The Blair Perry promise. It's a Blair pear. That's the Blair Perry promise. I wish Blair had sent two tracks in. It's a Blair pear coming at you. It's a blair pair that's the blair perry promise i wish blair had sent two uh two tracks in it's a blair pair coming at you it's a blair pair thank you blair pair um well you guys got any booze news i got i got jack shit nah well good i do um this is an update very exciting because we talked about this in the fall and now it's official it was speculation and now it's happening don the beachcomber restaurants are coming back um we talked about in the fall

they had the chain don the beachcomber tiki bar restaurant chain had all the every as of like 2018 the last one was in huntington beach they'd all closed down and then in september remember i had to sign up for the tampa business journal i paid out of my own pocket oh yeah yeah then you've missed the thing and you're paying like a hundred bucks right yeah because it was four dollars for september and then in october it auto renewed for the rest of the year oh man and i used my own card instead of the slops oh my life oh right right and that's what was that when it was revealed that i've been uh using the slop card for my uber for the last year yeah your uber tendencies damn um well the news back then was just that it the name

had been uh acquired by some big restaurant group and it was like oh shit maybe like because i think don beach did a cool thing where like he gave the name he left the name to like a woman that worked at his restaurants for a long time or something not even oh wow family or something and so i didn't know that there had been restaurants and they're called don the beachcomber or what are they called yeah they're called it basically they're called don the beachcomber. And it's just like Trader Vic's where like they had both. There was an original Trader Vic's in Oakland and then it became a chain. There was an original Don the Beachcomber in Hollywood and then it became a chain. But the one the last standing Don the Beachcomber was amazing.

It was in Orange County. I used to go down there a lot and it was like a big swooping Polynesian roof and all the stuff and, you know, bad food. But who cares? And very fun. There was even like a stage. And when I was there one time, a reggae band was playing. Oh, wow. Yeah.

It closed a stage at a restaurant where you're eating is really funny. Like sitting down, just listening to people. Oh, it's the best. My favorite was one time I was eating a prime rib somewhere in Massachusetts, and I saw Mike Hanford do stand-up. That'd be funny if I was at your show. At the summer club? What was it called? Bull Run or something? It was Bull Run was the big restaurant.

Yeah, I walked in. And you asked them how their steaks were? Yeah. I said, oh, you're the chicken? Oh, this person's the chicken. Everybody laughed at that person um if i ever if i ever pass i'm gonna leave you my guy my name to you guys uh and i want you to open a raiko chai chi restaurant mike um we're gonna own the name mike mike restaurant we're

stuck with mike you're leaving us the name Mike? Mike the Handcomer. That's good. I really do like... You go down to Handcomer's? Sure. Eating food while you watch a musical performance. Up in the Valley they got the baked potato. You're watching guys noodle away on jazz and eating a giant potato. Oh, that's great. That's fun.

Yeah, that's the best. And the potatoes are the size of a football. And you can get anything. Jeff, stop putting everything in NFL terms's the best. And the potatoes are the size of like a football. Yeah. And you can get anything. Jeff, stop putting everything in NFL terms all the time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I remember I got like a buffalo chicken potato. Yeah. You can get a surf and turf potato.

You get a normal dish, but it's all inside of a giant baked potato. They just kind of crack the potato open, and that's the plate. That's the plate now. Potato is plates now? Jeff, I got to quiz you on this one. Can you name me who, we've done this before, can you name me who won the Super Bowl this past year? I got it wrong last time.

I said Eagles. And it was not Eagles. It was the Ravens. Not quite. It was the Chiefs. We're going to revisit this throughout the year to see how it goes. You're going to ask me the same question over and over?

They beat the Eagles, right? So he's not that far off. He's not that far off, but he said the same thing last time, but he's been told the name. He's been told. Just remember Master Chief, because you like Halo so much. Oh, that's actually a good mnemonic device. Thank you, Mike.

No problem. I'm here to watchnemonic device. Thank you, Mike. No problem. I'm here to watch you succeed. I want you to succeed. So you're going to ask me the same question periodically? In a couple months. Yeah. Okay, okay. Tim, so is this going to be a bad restaurant now that it's bought by like Yum! Brands or whatever? I think it'll be okay. I mean, I think it'll be

a chain, but any tiki chain is fun. So the new news here is just that there is there are plans now because before it was just like hey a group has the rights now they're going to be opening in florida there's going to be one in tampa by the end of the year and then there's another one in elsewhere in florida coming next year and then within the next few years 10 to 15 locations spread across the southeast. So southeast slopheads, you know, we don't get down there very much.

The furthest south we go is Charlotte, North Carolina, South Carolina. No, Charleston, South Carolina. Charleston, South Carolina. That's the southernmost show we've ever played. I thought it was Columbia. Columbia is north of Charleston, no? Ah, you may be right. No.

Ah, you got me, you son of a bitch. If you happen to have a map or the map app, check it out. So this chain started in Southern California and we don't have any in the Southwest? That makes me mad. Yeah, it's royally fucked. You know what's a funny visual as jeff a

couple minutes ago you mentioned a buffalo chicken uh potato yeah great now of course that's going to be sliced in half and loaded up with hot sauce and blue cheese and stuff but for a second i sort of pictured it as if you took a whole potato a big one and you dropped it in the deep fryer and uncut and then you took it out and you rolled it around in the buffalo sauce, and then you pick it up and you dip it in the blue cheese. You just work on that one big potato. You guys like the potato skins?

Yeah. Yeah, I just... We had some recently, Jeff. Where was... The Barkley in South Pasadena. We ate some potato skins. They were crunchy. Not like the app, but like when you have a baked potato,

you eat the whole thing, right? Yeah, you need the roughage and the fiber. Yeah. That's good. It's good character. It's good. Yeah. It's good.

Got to wash them off. It's good. Yeah, they do have a lot of dirt. Yeah, they live in dirt. They live in dirt until we pull them out of their home You ever leave potatoes For too long and they kind of grow All these weird vines out there

Like eyes and stuff Yeah those are bad Those are nasty man You don't want the eyes you don't want the eyes Alright is that it for Booze News Wrap it up. Well, well, well. I guess it's on me at this point of the episode.

Now, we had fun last week with St. Patrick's Day, yes? Yes, we did. Yes. Well, it's time to pack that away. We're done. We're moving on. We're going back to the IBA, huh? Thank God. It's it's time to pack that away. We're done. We're moving on. We're going back to the IBA. Huh?

Thank God. It's about time. It's been a while. It's been a while. The prodigal son's return. Yeah, we had been shirking our responsibilities, but now we're back. Well, because we're getting to things now where it's like, I've never heard of this before. And then you look it up.

It's like, whoa, I got to buy some weird stuff. Well, today. Yeah, we did three really sillies in a row. Borg, Rumchata, and Guinnessy? What are we? Yeah. It's time to get back to it. This little guy we're talking about today is called

the Angel Face. You've had? Not had, not heard. I've not had, I've not heard. I had not had nor heard either. This is deep, deep in the recesses of The rare Tim not heard. IBAs. Oh, you know what I forgot to look up

of what, ah shit, where it stands in the cocktail, if it's a Where it stands. If it's a old classic or a new era or whatever. I'll look that up during the break.

Well, the Angel Face is one of these drinks. We've had drinks like this before. Invented in the 30s. Harry Craddock is to blame. Oh, the Savoy Cocktail Book. Savoy Cocktail Book.

You know, there's all those stories that are like, well, it could have come out after World War I when we were celebrating, everyone in Europe was celebrating their win in World War I. But it really officially is whenever the

Savoy cocktail book came out, which is 1930, I believe. So, it's a credit. It invented it in the new york bar in paris and no no cratic is the savoy harry mccalone is is oh right right right right the savoy of course of course i'm named after the book or whatever the let me tell you what's in this thing and then i'll give you a little uh some theories as to why it's called the Angel Phase. Again, one of these ones where it's just like, it could be this, it could be this.

And then the most boring explanation is the one everyone kind of sits on. So, for this, we're going to need 30 milliliters gin. You have 30 milliliters apricot brandy. Might not be something you have readily. You might have to go out and buy that one. And 30 milliliters Calvados. Huh? Calvados. It's a

Calpacus. It's a liqueur that tastes like apples and a little bit of pear kind of taste. It's an apple pear brandy? It could run you. I went to my nice, there's a nice liquor store near me,

and I said, yeah, I need Calvados. He said, sure, I got it over here. And he points to one bottle, it was $109. And I said, well, no, that one's probably not that one. He said, well, here's another one. It was $245. And I said, my good man. So he thought you wanted to go higher and higher.

Yeah. No, not that one, because I know it tastes terrible so I need to spend more so I went to sort of a mid-range sort of liquor discount store and got actually something called Michelle I was kind of excited to see that it's Calvados

it was like 35 bucks so not too bad so what you're going to do is take all these ingredients equal parts we like that we love that here on the pod. Pour all ingredients into a cocktail shaker filled with ice cubes. Shake and strain into chilled cocktail glass. Garnish not applicable. Okay.

I love it. Easy. When I've looked up alts for the Calv the most the easiest one is apple jack because that's an apple brandy that you can find in most places but here's another thing i was just googling this drink and it's weird it's like lots of places are comparing it to the jack rose and they're like yeah well you know an apple brandy drink much like the jack rose and i'm like yeah i have heard of the jack rose i haven't heard of the fucking angel jack rose why is invented the jack rose james cameron nice yes thank you nice yes yes but why is the angel's face on the iba

cocktail list when everywhere you you google it and it's like well it's kind of like a jack rose and you're like why isn't the Jack Rose on the fucking... It's because the Ibiza is all fucked up. We got to do the Venice room list. That's the list we should have been doing. We need to do the IBA and get the hell out of there. Get away from us. But I looked up something about Jack, Apple Jack,

Tim and Jeff and listener. I'm just going to read what I found here. Apple Jack is a type of apple brandy that dates back to the 1600s. American colonists in the Northeast turned their apple harvest into hard cider. And then what they would do, they were hoping it could become stronger. So they left it outside to freeze it. And then in the morning, they siphoned off the stuff that didn't freeze because now it was more of a higher proof spirit dubbed Apple Jack. so the water would freeze and they could just remove the water yeah yeah have you ever

accidentally done that with like um say you put a two liter bottle of coke in your freezer and then you forget a little too long you pull it out and you're like oh it's half ice and then you take a sip and you're like, oh, all the water froze and all I'm left with is super coke. Super coke syrup. Yeah. Do you remember, I think, I forget what it was. We got, somebody gave us bottles of Dom Perignon. Maybe, Tim, you and I wrote for the Emmys.

We got those. Yeah, I think I bought you one just because you did a good job that year. Yeah, thanks. Well, I put mine in the freezer and- No. Cracked probably the most, the best alcohol I probably ever would have ever had. That fucking sucks. That's like 300 bucks.

We should take out where we got that from so the person doesn't hear and go, Oh, you fucking idiot. I'm never hiring you again. Okay. So you're probably wondering, Hey, Mike, I'm not sure we know what's in the angel face. Why is it called the angel face? Well, some people say that Harry Craddock,

when he made this thing, the feeling you get, it gives you a nice warm feeling and makes you smile slightly and gives you an angelic type face. Okay. Okay. I like that.

One is that after shaking up these uh ingredients you pour it out and had kind of a a very light foam on the top that was for again an angelic face angel face which i think is maybe those two are sort of the debatable ones the one i like which people say probably is not the actual name is is in Prohibition era, in the 19... Let's see. In Prohibition era, there was a guy named Abe Angelface Kaminsky who was notorious for robbing

Detroit speakeasies. Ooh, I like that one. Yeah, that's a fun one, but that's one of those ones where I don't think it is. It's just kind of... Too bad. Too bad. Hey, we still gotta watch Dick Tracy. Just keep it in mind. I know. We gotta watch... What did you say? Dick Tracy and the Ewoks movie.

Ewoks. Yes. Movies no one's talking about. I don't wanna watch the Ewoks movie. You don't? I don't either. I even did watch it recently. I watched Willow and I fucking loved it. Yeah, well, that's good. That's Willow. But that's Willow. You gotta understand that's Willow. Well, that's Willow. I fucking loved it. Yeah, well, that's good. Yeah, that's good. That's Willow. But that's Willow.

See, you've got to understand. Well, that's Willow. All right. Do you want to get our angel faces on? Yeah, I want to shake it up. And when we come back, we'll have them in hand. Yes, please. Great.

And you folks listening, we'll meet you right back here after the ads. Ooh. and we're back angel faces in hand let's see him he does have a nice little uh foamy top huh yeah yeah very angelic face kind of i was happy see yours, you guys' look like mine because when I made it, I was like, this looks weird. It's kind of like, it almost looks like beer. Yeah, very beer-y. Is this how they make beer? Yeah, they shake up Calvados and apricot brandy. Where did we have apricot brandy left over from?

Do you remember what drink we put that in? I don't know. I stole some of your Hiram Walker apricot brandy. Cheap stuff. Yeah, that's a lot more apricotty than the apple brandy Calvados. Yeah, I took a little sip though. Oh, it's intense. Mine is.

Yeah. Mine was just like really good cognac with like a pear kind of aftertaste. I liked it. Oh, yeah. I did see on the Calvados Wikipedia it says Calvados is a brandy from Normandy in France made from apples or pears or from apples with pears.

The Wikipedia. From apples with pears. So you're saying they use the pears as the tool to mash the apples? Sips. Sips. Stiffy. Stiff, right, Piers. Sips. Sniffy. Sniff, sniff, sniffy.

Ooh, that is... Interesting. It cockles of my heart and giving me sort of an angelic smile. Yeah, it is. I'm looking right at it. Three boozes. Three boozes. No sugar, no mixer.

I mean, the apple brandy is sweet but damn that's uh that'll get you tanked right up it also not cloying i like that it's not uh it's not a little sweet tart after that's a good balance yeah balanced that's a compliment well compliment around here on the sloppy boys it's a wbd but we're talking Compliment around here on the Sloppy Boys. It's a WBD. But we're talking about like the genre is like, you would order this instead of like a Manhattan or a martini. It's a real stiff little cocktail. It's cold and it's fresh.

It's refreshing. See, that's why I'm thinking it's an unforgettable. Let me see. Unforgivable. Yep, unforgettable. Boom, right between aviation, the American unforgettable. Let me see. Unforgivable. Yep. Unforgettable. Boom. Right between radiation, the Americano. Boom. Boom.

If our boy Harry Craddock's making it, it's a fucking unforgettable day. You're not forgetting this one. The Cradman doing his thing. Cradmandoon now on Comedy Central. Is it still going? Cradmandoon? Yeah. Yeah.

I think it comes out right after Digman. Or did it do one season 15 years ago? It's the lead into Digman now. Digman, guys. Wednesday nights after South Park, Digman is where it's at. Tune in and get funky. Tune in and tune out from society. I am... So this bottle that Mike Calvados came in,

it had one of those things with the, you know, they wax the top there. Yeah. And I couldn't figure out how to get in there. It didn't have like a starter tab, and it wasn't the type of wax where, like on a maker's bottle where you start it and it all kind of comes out in one sheet.

It was like a candle. So like little, I had a wine opener like scraping it all down. And then. You had to scrape the wax. I was like, is it a cork in there? And I was like, no, the bottle opener won't go through it. And it was like one of those little stubby corks where it's got the plastic top.

Yes. But I got to say, Calvados, whoever made this Calvados, Michelle. Also, I'm looking at the bottle. The punt is, there bottle the punt is there's a punt it's got to be three inches three inch punt dude i once saw this this punt yeah the company was so cheap it was poking out the top of the uh of the fucking bottle yeah what's the deepest punt you guys ever saw one time i could put the punt so deep we can fit my dick

that is funny when you see a punt like i do have that brain that's like oh that means they're not giving you that amount of wine depression era thinking right but it's like you're like it's always you're always getting 750 milliliters of anything you buy it says it says what's on there i mean that's perplexing to me that those bottles are the same. Like when we did the Borg, I bought cheap vodka. I got Seagram's vodka, and it looked so tiny, but it was the same amount as like absolute feels big to me, and different ones feel bad, but it's all the same thing.

It's interesting what the mind can perceive. Where was I recently at some bar and I asked for a 16 ounce whatever and they poured it in the glass and I was like not the usual pint glass and I was like oh no I wanted a 16 like yeah this is 16 and I was like oh really it was like one of those you know like a solo cup

is like a fits a 16 ounce beer oh yeah it's like how does it all fit in there? I'm yelling at the guy. Hey, you know, the biggest one of those I can think of is the Frisbee. Like a Frisbee holds five beers. A disc. A disc.

Because it's so wide. We should do a Frisbee next time you're in L.A., Mike. We should all share one. That'd be a good spring activity. Very spilly, the frisbee. Yeah, if you thought a martini glass was spilly. You guys put all yours in martinis here? Martini glasses?

A coupe. I use a coupe. I think a martini glass is elegant and visually striking, but so tippy. I can't be trusted. I can be trusted. Ooh, this is a good drink. Strange taste.

Good drink. I really am glad that it's not like an apple cider or like a little apple guy. Yeah, an apple jack. Now wait, did you guys actually have Calvados or did you do the apple jack or something? I got Calvados. It was 56 bucks.

Are you serious? No. What's the brand? I didn't have any apple jack um i don't know i'm not looking at it you know you're always looking right at your bottles not mine it's in the kitchen yeah but it's a vsop read it yeah i saw his his is a vsop because i stole some see it looked fancy i took uh took this much this is what i yoinked from tim earlier now i left um a couple bottles on my kitchen counter for jeff and i left the keys in the mailbox i said help yourself i came into this apartment the place is trashed someone's been jumping on the bed popcorn kernels all over the place you didn't say no popcorn magazines are are open and being read. Yep. All my

dense, dense literature has been read. Taxes done. Oh, shit. Taxes, man. I gotta do the taxes. Let's not talk about it. You don't have to do your California taxes till October. Nice. For everybody? But why prolong the

misery? Because we got rain and it was a it was an emergency zone look that's people are gonna hear that in other parts of the country and be like they couldn't do taxes on time because they got rain we're not used to it you don't understand it was like landslides hit me in the fucking head i tried to walk to my car rain it was crazy. I lost power for like a day. Yeah, that was weird. Because in LA, I've only ever lost power for like one minute.

And yeah, I had a good 24 hours. And I was like, you know, the classic power out thing. You're like, well, not much to do. I guess I'll just watch a movie. Oh, can't do that. Well, I guess I'll just binge watch that show. Guess I'll just turn a light on. Can't do that. Maybe I'll just plug in my appliance oh no i have a electric lighter

i had just gone uh grocery shopping too so like a bunch of my food went bad damn not fun wait how long was the blackout it was like 18 hours for me. Oh, shit, man. Yep. Shit, Jefferson. That's terrible. That's terrible. Now, you guys have any brownouts out there? Oh, yeah. I got a lot of brownouts. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Check the rear end of the BVDs. Look at all the brownouts. That's what I'm talking about your your rear end i gotta say i have trouble with these lesser known iba drinks when i don't know if i don't have it something to associate it with like is it a fancy lady drink or is a tough guy drink or is it a worldly drink or what and this one of all we have to go on is that angel face smile that you get i will say i i do feel like like it's not a bad name there are the that breath from the apricot is very perfumey and nice and

i do feel like i have pink cheeks and i do i'm kind of picturing um clarence from it's a wonderful life and i feel like i'm right now yeah it's a more masculine tasting drink than you would think well i'm lots of people told me i'm mask i i always thought i was a little bit more femme but they say mask so he's he's awfully mask what's that masculine i see i see i get you uh you know yeah it's tough with these drinks that don't have much of a history to them too because you can't really say like oh yes they were all drinking these down at the Kentucky Derby racetrack. Now you think of horses

when you drink this. I gotta think of Harry Craddock. I tried not, I drink to forget Harry Craddock. Jesus Christ. One of the three fucking Harry's. I just don't understand what is the criteria for the IBA.

This cocktail is good right but but when there's no story behind it what what what what what what what what well also we've discovered that the iba is not respected around here like we've brought it up to our bartender friends and they're like what you're doing what list yeah i guess we've we've maybe heard of that but that's not anything that holds any merit yeah and here we thought we were we we were thought we were going off of like a real pillar of the community not so that's why we need to do the venice room i'm telling you yeah yeah i get some get some fun in here uh so i'm reading on the iba they actually have a history

here on this one so i'm just i'm looking at now. Although the origin of the cocktail is not known, the main hypotheses assume that it was born in the 20s of the 20th century in France. That's a weird way of saying that. This thesis would prove the presence of Calvados,

a liquor commonly used in France and in particular in that period as an epidemic of phylloxera in European vineyards had limited the production of brandylloxera in European vineyards had limited the production of brandy. Okay. On this basis, one of the most frequent hypotheses has it that the cocktail was created by Harry McElhone.

Oh. Harry's New York Bar in Paris. Yeah. Founder of Harry's New York Bar in Paris on July 19, 1919, in honor of the celebrations for the victory of the First World War. That's what I had read before. The first reliable evidence, however, dates back to 1930 when Harry Craddock included the angel face among the recipes of his book,

Savoy Cocktail Book. Some sources indicate that the name derives from that of an American gangster active during Prohibition, less likely the dedication to Rick Blaine, the protagonist of Casablanca, played by Humphrey Bogart, as the film follows the first testimonies.

I think that Harry Macalone got a little taste of his own medicine here. He's usually the fuck Jerry of cocktails. Other people are inventing him, and he's putting him in his book and taking credit. Oh, you think he got snaked? Feels like we got a little swapper between the Harrys, and I kind of like it, man. That's nice.

Well, would you tweak anything? I mean, it's real stiff, so if I were to tweak something, I guess I'd go, I'm not good enough for round two because I like this, but the tweak would probably be heavier on the apricot to make it a little sweeter, I think. If this is too dry for you. What gin did you guys use? I had some fancy old Tom gin. Ooh. I had a Beefeater myself.

I had a Tanqueray, and I ran out, and I had a beef eater myself. I had a Tanqueray and I ran out and I had a supplement with Hendrix. Ooh, a two gin within. And wait, is Harry's bar... Wait, Harry... Wait, hold on. Which one? What did Craddock do?

Craddock? He's a pain in the ass. Craddock is the Savoy Hotel. Okay, McElhone. He was Harry's New York bar. Have you ever been to that one? craddock he's a pain in our eyes craddock is the savoy hotel okay mackle mackle hone he was harry's new york have you ever been to that one yes is that still right yep i went there i told you guys about it because i i went there because i yeah i wanted to drink the bloody mary there because they have credit for kind of inventing it um not totally but kind of and um it was a really very funny bar because it's it's like an old shiny wood lacquered bar with a good century old stink on it. And it's a very cool place.

But they have all these like college, you know, like the flags on the wall and stuff. Yeah. And it's sort of like it was just funny to be in Paris and their idea of a New York bar. It sort of did feel sort of like sportsy and American. It was cool. I'd like to go there. I think that would be a fun place to drink this drink. You know what I like when you go to those types of bars, little cocktail bars, old ones,

and it's like the guy with the, he's an old guy at the bar. He's got one of those long aprons on that goes down to his knees. Oh, yeah. He makes you the drink and it's like he serves it into the tiniest little glass, but it's super strong. I like that. How did he do it, Jeff? How'd he do it? How'd you do it?

Tell us how you did it. I'm trailing him the whole day. How'd you do it? Oh, your apron's so long. Oh, your apron's so long. My apron's so long. How do you do it? Where do you get it? Can I work for you?

Can I apprentice for you? Hey, I went to Cafe Stella, to Bar Stella out here. Silver Lake? Saw one of the bartenders slice his hand. Oh. Oh. Yep. He had to bandage that thing and did it in real time.

Just like wrapped a rag around it, taped it up. Yeah, it was crazy. I said, did you actually see the knife go into the flesh? Producing the red within. I saw. did it in real time just like wrapped a rag around it taped it up yeah it was crazy i said did you actually see the knife go into the flesh producing the red i saw i saw full penetration uh i was i was at a bar recently i won't name the bar but i saw somebody uh was oh no there was a uh a glass shatter he'd like draw a glass kind of came down he tried to catch it and shatter and he you could tell he got cut because he kept looking at his hand and like shaking it.

And I was like, okay, I'm kind of watching him. He's still making the drinks and like, he put a little, like he was holding a napkin while he was doing stuff. You're getting blood in the drink. I don't know if that's exactly the Bloody Mary I asked for.

My call. You know the worst fake fake when you drop something and you try and catch it and because it's at hip height you end up like smacking yourself in the nuts and not catching it and then the thing falls and breaks it's just the most insult to injury like oh i clap myself he was rolling around the garage oh Oh, my nards! Are you bleeding? Oh, my two precious family jewels! My nuts! Mike, would you change anything?

Answer the question. Well, you know, I did see some recipes that had an orange slice in it. Oh. Always with orange. I figured you were going to be putting some Grand Marnier in this thing, Mike. Ooh. Are you looking right at it? I wouldn't do much of this. I'm so unused to Calvados and

apricot brandy that I don't know what would mix well with this. Well, what about rocks? That's what I'm thinking. Is there a rocks version? Oh, for sure. Yeah, it's stiff, so you'd do it like a Sazerac or an Old Fashioned, right? Kind of like one big rock, maybe.

One big cube alright well I'm gonna do that you want one big rock check out Dwayne Johnson Jesus Christ the bad boy can eat the ostrich guy was fucking huge man oh I'm glad I'm not his tailor I'll tell you that glad I'm not

anyone's tailor I don't know how to sew I don't know how to tail. I don't know how to tail. Well, let's take a little break. And when we come back, we'll have our final thoughts. Great. You into it? I am. Let me tell you something really quick.

I got my measurements taken recently. I was getting a... 36, 24, 36. Wow. Well, and it was the type of thing, you remember, in Phantom Thread, where somebody does the measurements and the other person marks it down

they were set up like that and I had my arms out and stuff and I was like ooh I feel like Phantom Thread and these were two tailors and they both like

looked at me like yeah okay you're not Phantom Thread well really you're not Phantom Thread I thought they would love it they did yeah

I thought so too I thought they would be like oh Phantom Thread that's your movie let's talk about Phantom Thread that's about you guys alright well folks we'll see you right back here after the ads I thought they'd be like, oh, Phantom Thread. That's your movie. Let's talk about Phantom Thread. That's about you guys.

All right. Well, folks, we'll see you right back here after the ads. And we're back. Round two. Check out this cube. Oh, that's a big boy. Is that a roundy? Yeah, a big fatty.

Mm-mm. Big square. Ooh, it's nice. Now, I just put my remaining angel face, I made a big boy, on a cube. So it had been shaken on ice and then later put on a cube and stirred. So it's probably a little more diluted

than if you were to go straight to cube. You know, my gin is probably diluted because I put it in the shaker with the ice thinking I'd be able to pop this Calvados top quite easily. And it didn't happen. So it was melting away in there. But I'm still working on my first one. This is a good drink, but it's not a glugger, which is fun. Not a glugger. It makes you sort of stand down and appreciate it stand down and stand by because it's a it's like an

interesting taste it's not what was it stand back and proud boys stand by and stand down it's an interesting taste but you don't you kind of like yeah i'm not i'm not a proud boy but i am proud of my boys. Thank you. We've accomplished a lot over the years. Your boys being? You and Tim. Okay. Kalpakis. I just want to clarify where your allegiance is lying.

Yeah, what if you had said, oh, yeah, you know, Hayes and Sean. I'm proud of them, too. Yeah, they've done a lot. They've done a lot. They've done a lot. Doing good work over there. And not to mention Spoon Man and Burger Boy. Sure. Very proud of them what they've built.

Sure, the house that Burger built. Remember when they started that pod, we were like, are there enough chain restaurants? I know. And it turns out there's a million and then also nothing stopping them from going back twice yeah but uh when we started ours people were like are there enough cocktails my dad was like how long are you gonna do it for are there enough cocktails there's enough cocktails until we've had everything it's crazy to look back and see like we

when i look at the uh recipe cards that we've made for online, because you're all following us on at the Sloppy Boys on social media. You've seen the recipes ahead of time. That'd be funny if there was a regular listener to the show who's like, what? There's a Twitter and Instagram? But it's crazy to look back and think, wow, we've tried each and every one of these beloved cocktails. Yeah. We rule.

We rock. We've learned a lot every one of these beloved cocktails. Yeah. We rule. We rock. We've learned a lot, wouldn't you say? We rule. When this podcast started, I didn't know. We've learned a lot. Sure. I didn't know my ass from a hole in the ground. I still don't.

One of sour, one of sweet, two of liquor can't be beat. Yes, yes. Yes, in a glass you shall pour if you like it have one more we didn't know that before yeah where do I pour it and what if I like it what do I do if I like it

wait does the same thing work with food this is I'm gonna make myself a second one though for our blowout oh you're gonna get tanked over on the patreon this is, I'm going to make myself a second one though for our blowout. Oh, you're going to get tanked over on the Patreon. That people can access at patreon.com slash the sloppy boys.

That's right. Yeah. This week we are talking about the best spring thing. It's a spring fling thing. I'll double down on your, on your tease there. I was going to, I had a funny prop.

I was going to hold up and show to you guys and it's actually it's kind of a it's kind of raunchy. Oh my god. Nice. I'm going to put it behind the paywall. I'm going to wait and show it to you. That's a good tease. What is the thing Tim's going to show us? You won't be able to see it

but we will. Everybody's wondering hashtag raunch thing. What will it be? What is raunch thing? Oh, his penis where were you where were you when tim showed raunch thing i was in my home um well give me your final thoughts i need them michael. This is an OA for me, my man. OA all the way. OA? The Netflix show? The AO? Or again.

A-A-O, A-O, A-A-O, A-O. What song is that, Bastille? If you can close your eyes and you're whole and strong. That whole genre of songs by like Fun and Bastille, our friend Ryan White called it Lion King Rock. That's good. That's great. There's also like a bit of Imagine Dragons, I assume, is in there.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Lion King Rock. Stomp. There's a great, somebody called Mumford and sons and of mountains and men oh yeah or like the lumineers like somebody online called it stomp clap hey music and i'm so glad that we're out of that too i was looking at um i was writing something and i needed some references to the year 2009 and i was like like, this will be funny, some outdated references. And I never liked Mumford & Sons. And I, but I associated, I was like,

what was the Mumford & Sons song of 2009? And yeah, their big hit single. It was like. Can I guess it? Yeah. Is it that one that's like, I belong with you. You belong with me. No, that's the Lumineers.'s the hay song ah shit it uh melford and sons was little lion little lion man it's just so weird to see the band that comes along and get,

remember like, uh, uh, back in the day, you know, I was really into the strokes and I was really into a lot of like throwback, he rock and roll that came out of that. But then jet comes along and gets all the money and the jet sucks.

Right. Are you going to be my girl? Dumb major label, Australian band gets all the money that all those cool new york bands never made right and i capitalized on like a subgenre yes and and you know kind of on a three-year delay from that we get like arcade fire making like big churchy but precious old timey music invests and i loved arcade fire but arcade fire didn't make the money mumford and sons five years later made the money they came in they got the big they got the big

money that's why i think the sloppy we were mentioning hollywood handbook doughboys i hope in the future i people say oh you know sean and hayes are brilliant nick and and mitch are hilarious but the sloppy boys they made the money yeah they really uh they came by later made all the money well they had the business know-how you know they're the jet of the rocks they're the jet of the podcast scene when you were saying that i was man, what was happening five years ago that we could come in and profit off of? And yeah, it's podcasts, and we're doing it. Yeah, I guess so. But we need to get that money.

Yeah, we want the money. We want this podcast to be a green, green money machine. Thank you. I feel so clean like a money machine. I feel so clean like a money machine. We gotta find that new Gex album when that comes out. We'll find it. We'll find it. If there's any of you guys that can find it, it's us. Yeah, we're gonna Google search that comes out. We'll find it. We'll find it. If there's any three guys that can find it, it's us.

Yeah, we're gonna Google search that. Yeah, we'll find it online. Exactly. It's probably on the internet. Yeah, it's probably online. There's a song. They have a song. I don't know if it's on the album or if it's one of those things where it's a single, but

it's not on the album. Hollywood Baby. Look it up. Hunter Gex, Hollywood Baby. Okay. I love it. Banger. Hey, folks.

Dutz here. The new album 10 000 gex is out now and we're going to be discussing it on next week's episode of the sloppy boys blowout on patreon and yes it's true hollywood baby was in fact a single it dropped in february well my final thought is this is good it's in order again let me try it on ice one more time. Oh, man, that's good. Folks, try it. The Angel Face. It's the new drink.

We haven't had a Stone Cold Classic in a while. Remember there was a run there where, Jeff, you were naming everything a Stone Cold Classic, and I said, I think we just got used to calling things Stone Cold Classics. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's a nice run of that shit. We just learned that term, so we have said it. We got used to calling things Stone Cold Classics. Oh, yeah, that's right. Those are nice to run on that shit. We just learned that term, so we're using it. Let me do a taste.

Let me see. Oh, shit. You looked almost in pain. I would say order again. Delicious drink, order again. I love a stiff drink. We drink a lot of sugary shit on the show. This is very good.

And here's what I will say. As far as a very stiff, dry cocktail in a cocktail glass, this one is very spring friendly. It's a nighttime drink. Yes. It's not a daytime drink. Sort of an accident on our part, but good. You're indoors. It's dark outside, but it's not a daytime drink sort of an accident on our part but good you're you're it's it's you're indoors it's dark outside but it's springtime and you want something a little you want hints of apricot and pear and apple on your breath it makes you feel like a like a like a the

bees might buzz right over you and the bird might come by and fuck the bee right in front of you. Hey, hey, hey. I'm talking raw dog, baby. Oh, jeez. It's all that kinky shit. Oh, fuck. This is a good drink. It's also, it's pretty masculine. It's masculine. This is one for the boys.

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And guest. Who you got this month, Mike? This month we have... Fran. We got Fran Gillespie. I didn't think about it. We had Fran last week. Oh, it's still Fran.

It's a month. It's a month. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was like, are we still in the same month? Yeah, it was Fran. Fran. She's great. Super funny.

Always, always. Well, good episode, guys. guys And good episode everybody listening at home Great job Guys, really good episode Also, I have some cliffhanger information to share And people are going to have their minds blown And be happy they stuck around I looked through on the podcast app

I scrolled through the Sloppy Boys podcast To find What other drink we used apple brandy in. Yes. Yes. It was. Tell us now. The paradise made by none other than Harry Craddock at the Savoy hotel in

London in his Savoy cocktail book. The dude is fucking obsessed with this stuff. He can't think of anything, but apricot and brandy and brandy and apricot. It's the two things back and forth all day. He has a mind fixed on apricot.

Tim, what else is in that? What else is in that? How close is that to what I'm drinking right now? Right very now. That was fucking now. Other ingredient, gin. Uh-huh.

Oh, wow. But then. Really, a gin drink made in London, huh? Wow. Mike. Come on. Gin, apricot brandy, and OJ. Ooh. Probably a little flabby.

Yes. I have all those things. But Jeff, what if the OJ has been acid adjusted, my boy? Well, then, we're talking about a nice tight, tight, tight OJ. Have you used that acid adjustment powder i i've made a citric acid solution and i've been adding it to cocktails and it's true it makes things nice and sour and tart but you still folks you still want to use a little bit of natural citrus the way they do in bars the cit citric acid solution... I don't like you mixing stuff up so much.

I don't like this chemistry. No, it's good. The citric acid is good for the environment and it's good for your wallet. Ah. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Alright. Good episode, guys. We'll see you next week. Later. Bye, folks. We love ya. See ya. Give it up for your boys