The Sloppy Boys - 14. Moscow Mule

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

The guys whip up everyone's favorite copper-cupped concoction!MOSCOW MULE RECIPE1.5oz/45 ml Smirnoff Vodka4oz/120 ml Ginger Beer.33oz/10 ml Fresh lime juiceIn a mule cup or rocks glass, combine vodka and ginger beer. Add lime juice and gently stir to involve all ingredients. Garnish with a lime slice.Recipes via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey folks, welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love. I'm Jeff Dutton along with Mike Hanford. Hello. And Tim Kalpakis. Hello. And we're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys. What's up? Mike, what's going on, man? I woke up from a nap a little while ago. I had a weird night's sleep. I woke up early, so I sort of drag in here. And I woke up from a nap, and that's tough

when you take like a 40-minute nap when your REM cycles are all weird. And then I ate a big Italian sub and I feel low down. In bed? I just, I rolled over and picked up the sub and said, here we go. But you should be carbo loaded. Those will be kicking in any second. I'm carbo loaded, but I also got a lot of salami in me and on me.

Well, get those extra slices off of you yeah let me just do a quick jumping jack here hey i'm back oh my god that was 200 jumping jacks yeah salami flying off his body yeah sorry it's all over the camera too so So I got to, okay, we should be good here. You want to know what I just ate? Yes. What? Cuban food. I was inspired.

Really? I was thinking about the Cuba Libre that we made. Classic episode of our show for pod fans everywhere. But it's been kind of, ever since we did that, I've been drinking, I had some leftover Coke and rum and lime, and I've been drinking those. And I've been saying, I i gotta get myself some plantains and all the stuff that goes along with this so i ordered it i ate it i'm happy i feel really good good great you look great thank you you're

gonna have to do a lot of heavy lifting here i have found myself buying co-Cola a little more often because I'm like, well, I do have those limes. I got to get through these limes. I hate a sad lime in your fridge when a lime, it gets dark like a piece of charcoal and it's just sitting there staring at you. It's way in the back next to that old Arm & Hammer box. way in the back next to that old arm and hammer box. I think I might do a Pixar movie that's like about an old

lime and he's talking to the arm and hammer that's played by Armie Hammer. You know who could be, maybe play the bottle of ketchup which I assume would be in the fridge? Rebecca Black. Wait, Mike. which I assume would be in the fridge. Yeah.

Rebecca Black. Wait, Mike. Hey, it would get a new demographic in the door. That's good. And she's my former collaborator. Right, yes, exactly. We both did voices on Kung Fu Bunny. Right.

Bunny Fu. I forgot about that. I forget the name. Is that streaming, Tim? Can we watch that? It was on Netflix, guys. Look up Kung Fu Bunny. It was a rip-off of Kung Fu Panda and I did the voice of the bad guy. And I played

Michael Clarke Duncan's sidekick and it was his final film role. Wow. That is something else. Also, if you're going to look that up it is kung fu bunny if you find kung fu panda don't say oh they must must have meant this you will wait isn't it isn't it bunny foo yeah it's bunny foo i i think the working title when i was doing the voice was flat out the kung kung fu bunny and then they're like maybe maybe we gotta swap it around a little

bit so it's bunny foo so you're like if you're looking for it it's little bit. So it's Bunny Fu. So if you're looking for it, it's Bunny Fu. Wow. It's one of the highlights of my filmography. You know what I watched the other day? Huh? My episode of Monk. You watched your... Did you look up... Did it just happen to be on TV

or did you want to watch your episode? Somebody... Or in the TV guide, did it say Tony Shalhoub, Mike Hanford? No, somebody on Twitter or Instagram posted like, they were like, is this you in this Monk episode? I said, yes, it is. And I went back to watch it.

It's called Monk. The episode is Mr. Monk in the big game. Monk coaches the high school basketball team or something. I kind of skipped through it. And there I am in the bleachers wearing a really cool Carhartt zip-up hoodie Monk coaches the high school basketball team or something. I kind of skipped through it. And there I am in the bleachers wearing a really cool Carhartt zip-up hoodie that I've lost. I love that. And I think I lost it at that show, at that taping.

I've seen Tony Shalhoub wearing a similar hoodie in some of his press. He's been doing like that. Well, also, as I was watching it, like your Michael Clarke Duncan, Tim, a new to the scene Jennifer Lawrence shows up in this. She's got a small part in it. I was like, hey, wow, she went on to do great things. She was in what's going on with Mike Mitchell in the pilot for FX as well. That's right. That was like right before she blew up.

Like she was probably filming all the things that would make her big. I consider, I think of that as her blowing up. You think she blew up after? Sure. Hey, as long as we're sharing Tony Shalhoub related things, I rewatched. Let's put a cap on this, by the way. Maybe this is maybe 20 more minutes of this. Okay. 20 minutes tops. Let's put a cap on this, by the way.

Maybe this is maybe 20 more minutes of this. Okay, 20 minutes tops. Over Christmas, I rewatched Big Night, which is a family favorite in my household. Have you guys ever seen the movie The Big Night? Never even heard of it, Tim. Is that that movie about that guy in that suit of armor that's like taller than all the trees? Yes. And that's the central conflict is this guy is too big.

We got to shrink them down. How can we make this guy shorter? No big night starring Tony Shalhoub and Stanley Tucci. It's an indie movie from the nineties. And if you love, if you love food and cocktails, it's a whole movie about why food and drinks are great. And here's the thing co-written and co-directed by stanley tucci and i was like i guess tucci's a film genius give me the wow tucci has been those guys uh

fit in the same category uh for some reason with me like they seem they look somewhat similar i don't know maybe they don't well look similar. Well, they play brothers in The Big Night and that's why it wasn't until I was watching that movie that I was aware that they're two different people. I always thought that they were the same guy. Shalhoub and Tooch? Shalhoubi and the Toochman.

See, I'm an old wings head, so you can't sneak Tony Shalhoub by me. I'm going to spot him every time. He was in Wings. Is he one of the main pilot guys? No, he's a cabbie. He's only there sometimes. Do you think if they ever formed like a Hollywood

couple together, they would be Shalucci or Tachoub? I do think that. And I also... Shalucci or Tachoub is how you can go. I both do think that. and then i also like i'm very much expecting it to come to be i think those two listen to this podcast i think jeff wings is a show that is always brought up as a punch line and you're the only person i know that

liked it and watched and respected it is it because it's new england well you know i had just such deep respect for it is the thing uh i don't really remember where it's nantucket airport right yeah yeah you know it's just one of those shows i don't even know if i watched it on was it nbc originally that was like that was like a USA Networks thing for me. And a rerun time. How about we get into a little bit of booze news, huh? Well, folks, let's be honest. It's dry January for a lot of the people out there. They're not drinking.

And I feel like i've heard this word mocktail everywhere i go mocktail hey you mocktail hey you over there do you have a mocktail podcast and i say far from it almost the exact opposite um no but i i i've been uh keeping my ears open. I noticed that last year, Bud Zero came out and Coors Edge came out and Heineken 0.0 came out. And now with all these mocktails, I want to ask you guys,

do you think that 2021 is the year of the mocktail? Yes. But only because everybody has examined their drinking during quarantine. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of, you're really faced with it.

It's, it's almost seems like you did so much drinking this year. Let me take all next year off. It's kind of the worst time to have a podcast about, uh, a fun new cocktail every week. Yeah. I will say,

I don't like reading comments that say, I love those guys. Too bad I quit drinking. You can still listen and drink and not drink. It's an entertainment lifestyle pop culture comedy thing. Don't tell me. Yeah. I'm preaching to the choir.

Ethan56412. These guys piss me off so much. I want to wring their little necks. Listen to the show. Listen to the podcast and start drinking again. Listen to the show. No, but Jeff, you were talking about one mocktail thing you tried.

Seed lip? Seed lip. Was it fun? Honestly, I found it delicious and kind of hard to describe. you guys were asking me like so does it taste like liquor and it doesn't and there there are three different flavor profiles one is called citrus one is called aromatic and one is called herbal i believe that's pronounced herbal they're not trying to taste like any respective things, but you could see how like,

Oh, the citrus would work really well in this sort of cocktail. Ah, but I just had it straight on ice and liked it. I got to try it. I've been getting my Instagram feed has been dominated by kin K I N, which I think is a competitor of seed lip. It's also just a fake cocktail type of a thing. And it's funny that my,

it's like my social media figured out. I didn't search any of these, but I'm constantly clicking on liquor stuff. And then I think Instagram Zuckerberg is trying to sober me up. He heard the podcast. He's like, I need this to end now. Sober these three up.

The only way to have our podcast end so that he doesn't have to listen to it is to make us. It's so simple. Let's see. Who needs deplatforming? Number one. Well, number one and only. Get them off.

Sucker. I myself, I've never. I'm not doing dry January. I applaud anyone. No, wetter than ever, man. Yeah. This is a real soaked January. But I think I do predict, I think this year some of these things will finally take off.

Because when you got Bud and Coors and Heineken going after a non-alcoholic thing really hard, it means they're working on some research. They're not just shooting from the hip. Right, they're huge corporations, man. They don't tell us what to do. We tell them what to do to us. Yeah, Mike, but what are your feelings on huge corporations?

I bloody hate them, Tim. I bloody hate them, mate. I hate them. Telling me what to do, what to drink, what to wear, what to say, what to listen to. I wish I was better at

free-form poetry because I felt like I was really launching into something. I think you're pretty good. Worked on me, man. Oh, good, good, good, good. I'm snapping. What if we did a mocktail episode where we each bring in our own mocktail? Ooh, I like that. I like that, but it would

be even better if it was a cocktail. Yeah, good point. Put a little gin in there. Ooh, you gotta spike that cocktail. Yeah, good point. Yeah, put a little gin in there. Oh, you got to spike that thing. Yeah, what if we start with mocktails? We said, okay, and here's to make it a cocktail. Zip.

And just say, much better. It's pretty easy. You know one thing I like that's funny out there in the world is news bloopers. No, me too. Because you got somebody who's trying to act really serious and stately. It's crazy. It's the funniest like why is that setting? That's the scenario. It's the funniest place

for a mistake to happen. Because it's yeah like Jeff was saying like it's people being a weird type of formal that is not done in other any other part of your life. Like delivering the news is its own style of speaking and formality. That when they do screw up, it's like, ooh, I don't hear that very often.

Well, I bring it up because I heard we had a bit of a news fail on our very own show. Oh. Me? You're talking about me? Mike, I'm talking about you, man. Well, I got two pieces of booze news today, and they're both fails. Let me tell you about the first one. So we had, if you're just new to the podcast, we did Manhattan's last week. What a week.

And boy, oh boy, we drank them down, didn't we? And I had about three of them, and maybe a white claw or two. And on my way up to bed, I said, uh-oh yeah this this little guy's gotta go barf barfed out everywhere you barfed out i barfed out man but i will say this it was not fun and i didn't like it and i felt bad about myself being like a guy who's on a podcast about drinking. I can't be barfing. I will say, I think it didn't feel, I've been, look, I've been, I've drunk to excess before and had to throw up. Sure. I admit that. I admit that. But I think this was, this felt different. This felt like the vermouth, we were talking about the vermouth being old and bad. And I think the vermouth, like drinking that much bad vermouth was probably a bad idea. Right

because we have recently learned that vermouth is wine it's made from grapes, it needs to be stored in the fridge and you can only have it in the fridge for a couple months. You had a dusty old bottle from a cabinet right? Yes, from a long time ago and

maybe if I didn't drink three of them I would have been okay but I think three doses of bad vermouth is going to send you running ostriching in the porcelain throne a little bit of the old multicolor

yawn technicolor yawn that's right did you have like an uncle that said that or something I heard that somewhere but I thought it was so funny it's definitely not my. It's a Technicolor yawn. Did you have like an uncle that said that or something? I heard that somewhere, but I thought it was so funny. It's definitely not my own. It's something else. I don't know.

Hearing after your experience here, Mike, I think that we should cancel Vermouth Month. No. Hey, look, I'm all for Vermouth Month, but if we just get brand new vermouths and keep them in our ice boxes. No, vermouth is gone. No, no, no. Don't say that, Tim. I should not have brought that up.

I just dumped my vermouth and I couldn't have been happier. Ugh, it's weird. It was hanging out in my fridge and I was like, I got to put real food in here. Wait, no. You dumped it? We were supposed to have Negronis. I mean, yeah, no, it's gone, Tim. I'm going to have to give you back a shot that you gave me some.

I'll give you a little bit back. You guys are like in the old days, old country days, when people used to go next door and say, I need a cup of sugar to make my bread. Bread, you'd say. You're making a cake, sir. I need a cup of vermouth to make my podcast. Okay, coming up on my segment of Booze News,

I'm just going to show you this news right now. Oh! It's a Miller High Life huge champagne sized bottle. A champagne bottle of the champagne of beers. This is one

pint for 4.9 fluid ounces of beer. It looks like a 40, but really classy. Yeah, it's got the little foil up top here. And it looks really cool. I saw him in the store and I was like, I'm taking this with me. That is very cool. So I can get to drinking that if I want. Nothing's stopping me.

But what I was going to be doing, the fail, the news fail that was happening, was I was going to say, oh, guys, I was going to start this episode by drinking a normal bottle of Miller High Life. And we'd comment on it. Oh, Miller High Life. Oh, you're so cool, Mike. I'd say, guys, you know what my piece of booze news is?

I just got a new piece of equipment here that I wanted to let everyone know. It takes your bottle of beer and blows it up into a bigger bottle. And I was going to put the little beer off camera and then bring the big one up. And you guys would go, oh, look at this guy. Hey, we could still do it. No, that would have

rocked the house. I could not find a fucking Miller High Life regular sized bottle anywhere. You know what I saw? A promotion from Miller that I think goes hand in hand with that champagne bottle is that they had these. Did you see these like coasters or Miller champagne glasses that they were trying to promote distanced hangs? So if you're resuming with your friend, they have Miller glasses that sit on Miller coasters that light up when you cheers.

So they're trying to make it like a fun thing where, hey, you're alone in your apartment. But if you toast a glass to your friend, they're hooked up to Wi-Fi and they like interact with each other. So when everyone says cheers, it lights up? Yeah, but for some reason it's hooked up to the Wi-Fi. So it's more that the two coasters know when your beer is either on the coaster or has been raised up. So they light up and turn off. Oh, so they light up every time you drink. That, you know.

Hey, look, Wi-Fi is cool. I like Wi-Fi. Yeah, I'm a Wi-Fi kind of guy. Yeah, I'm on it right now, as a matter of fact. Yeah. Shit, me too. Me too.

You know, I used to hardwire and then I melted my Ethernet cable on my heater. Too many pirating videos. Well, I think that's going to close up the news. What type of news? Booze news.

Booze news, to be specific. Yes, yes. Okay, guys, we got a good one today. Yeah. Oh, baby. See, I pivoted, but I don't have it. Tim, you got it. You got the goods.

Oh, I'm knee deep in it. Today, folks, we are discussing a certain little cocktail entitled the Moscow Mule. And in fact, I've got a whole little presentation. Really? About my own little personal theory on it. A little hypothesis I'd like to present, almost like a PowerPoint, but with no visuals. Would you guys like to hear my presentation? Yeah.

Yeah. So the Moscow Mule, it's delicious, right? No shit is delicious because vodka, ginger beer, lime in a big icy copper cup. It's delicious. They're great. We love them, right? You guys like them. We drink them. Oh yeah. Tim, you couldn't tell me I don't like them because I have photos of me drinking one. Dude, we got to put those on social media, man. I got the photo. Mike,

do you remember when we got the big boy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at the Tam O'Shander, we got a big,

a big Moscow mule about the size of it. It came out of a big copper cup, the size of a gallon of milk. Like they do it for the table. You can get like a big, big old mule for the table with everybody gets copper glasses, but it comes in a giant copper glass. And they do it for the table. You can get like a big, big old mule for the table with everybody gets copper glasses,

but it comes in a giant copper glass. And then you ladle it out. And the ice cubes in this thing were as big as harmonicas. They were long and thin. It was like,

it was like, honey, I shrunk the kids only slightly. Yeah. Honey, I shrunk the drunk. You guys, thank you for each using your own terms

to describe it. Like Mike tends to put things in harmonica terms and jeff you you jennifer you're a film fan yeah yeah yeah um no so the i love them they're delicious and that that communal one at tam o'shander is a blast and that's what i kind of associate with even though it says moscow you don't think of cold Russia. You think it's like a kind of a good patio drink, and they're refreshing as all hell. And we all like them. We all drink them. And if you're a listener.

And you are. Everyone's a listener who loves them. I say, hey, you're right to drink them because they're great, but allow me to shit on them for one second. If I can be a little – typically i'm a warm-hearted guy and this is a welcoming podcast but if i were to get a little provocative wow i've i feel like i had sort of picked up on a vibe that the the moscow mule is maybe it's like an entry-level cocktail that is good, but I think it's really just because that cup really makes it so Instagrammable. It's sort of like – it's such a thing.

If you're not a cocktail person – well, Mike, you know when we were talking about the rum and coke, you said that the – you think that people that order rum and Cokes, it's because they're at a bar and they can't think of what they want. So they just say – you likened it to ordering chicken at a steakhouse. Agreed. Agreed. You agree with your earlier statement. I agree with my earlier statements. I stand by them. Well, I kind of thought – I was like thinking about the – in the post madman era cocktail boom everyone started drinking an old fat 10 years ago we're having old fashions we're having martinis and stuff

i feel like the mule it almost became amongst cocktail uh circles as being like you're a little bit of a basic bitch or you're like a little bit of a i do not like this it's the rustic it's the rustic man's cosmo it's the rustic man's Cosmo. It's the rustic man's Cosmo. And Jeff, this is what's great about me being provocative, is you can own me. I'm going to let you have it, Tim. You can dunk on me. You don't have to just let me have it.

You don't speak for the rest of the pod. I mean, I'm going to let you have it. Oh, you're going to let me have a oh shit my money maker um but that was just like a vibe i had and then so i i read the history to be like maybe i'm dead wrong and uh and i was like does anyone else feel this way or whatever but here's what i found basically the history is um there's a previous drink called a buck and a a buck is if you put ginger or citrus in liquor. So it's from like this. Oh, Buck's Fizz?

I thought that it would be. We talked about a Buck's Fizz. Mike taught us about the Buck's Fizz, which is a mimosa precursor. But here's the thing, Mike, do you remember where that buck name came from? Like the Buckingham Hotel or something? It was in England somewhere, I forget. Well, this is not that. This is a separate drink. But here's the thing, Mike, do you remember where that book name came from? Like the Buckingham hotel or something? Hmm.

It was in England somewhere. I forget. Well, this is not that this is a separate drink. Okay. Um, uh, but because it said that like there was a soft drink that was called the horse's neck. This is in the twenties. It's a ginger ale and lemon soft drink called horse's neck.

And then someone added whiskey to it. And cause it was horse's neck with whiskey. They called that a Kentucky buck. So it's a whole different thing than the buck's fizz okay which pisses me off because with cocktails don't you i would love for there to just be a narrative we can follow once in a while yeah i know i know it's all over the place um but from the kentucky buck then there was like the shanghai buck and the jinjin buck and the London buck. And I guess even one called the vodka buck. So I guess they did exist. But as far as the Moscow Mule as

we know it in the Copper Cup, it's in the 40s. There's an LA guy who owns a British pub on the Sunset Strip called the Cock and Bull. And they make ginger beer. And then you have this New York guy who is

the PR marketing dude at a, at a company that represents Smirnoff. And the two of them met up in New York at the Chatham hotel in Midtown. And they're, they were like, this is like madman era just off Madison Avenue, like being like, maybe we could do cross promo thing. And they came up with the Moscow mule by saying like, okay, so it's Smirnoff and it's cock and bull ginger beer with lime. And it's in a copper cup. And one of the guys, his girlfriend worked for a copper company that made these cups allegedly.

Man. So they, so it's like a corporate concoction, which is fine because a lot of these, uh, these cocktails are that, but this guy did that brilliant thing that later we saw that the fireball guy did in Nashville where he, once they invented the drink, he went from bar to bar and he'd be like, Hey,

it's this thing. You put it in this cup. And then he would get a picture of the bartender making, uh, and he took the picture on like the hot new thing, which was a Polaroid camera. So it's very like original. What year was this again? I missed the beginning year.

This is 1941. Oh. And he would take a Polaroid of a bartender so that he could put a picture up on the wall. But then also he would go to the next town and show the next bartender like, look, they're drinking these Moscow Mules, all these other bars. You guys got to get them on the menu. And that worked. And, uh, and it, it took off for them and it was like a huge thing. And, uh, it's crazy. I know. And, and so it's just kind of cooked. I, other people have a theory that the bartender at the cock and bowl actually came up with a recipe and that's very possible that an actual bartender did it, but it's really like two businessmen cooked this up because they just wanted a good looking drink that people would latch on to.

It's almost kind of like the Cosmo or the Fireball thing. It's just like the Cosmo is promoting like absolute citrone was one of the stories. So that's like a kind of like if you have this specific type of liquor, you can make this drink. Right. Oh, yeah, citrone. And that is the only time I've ever had citrone in my life. But that wasn't like a citrone exec like getting it going. Yeah.

It's funny because even the IBA recipe does call specifically for Smirnoff vodka. Yeah. So that's funny that they – those clever little devils. Yeah. I mean I don't have any Smirno'm not, I'm not following their rules tonight. Yeah. I mean, neither. I'm doing Tito's.

So this is, this is 1941. They came up with this while the country is, is tightening their belts and sending our boys off to fight the excess power. This guy is just going around. Hey, I'm trying to get this copper cup thing going. Who wants in? Yeah. I think he specifically said like, Hey, don'm trying to get this copper cup thing going. Who wants in? Yeah. I think he specifically said like,

Hey, don't worry about our boys, our beloved boys overseas. This is the, this is what's going on. They got plenty of copper cups. Yeah. Don't they need copper for the war effort?

What are they doing? I think I, I heard that like, that's why in world war two, you always hear about America, like losing battles because they didn't have enough copper bullets and copper gear. I do think that is interesting though, that it was like you were saying that it's an Instagrammable thing and it started out as a, like get a picture taken and get the word out about these things. Well, so there's no reason for that copper cup.

get the word out about these things. Well, so there's no reason for that copper cup. In fact, recently the FDA has been saying, don't drink out of copper cups because like Moscow mules are acidic. And when you put like an acid liquid into copper, it can, there's like toxicity. So these days, if you drink one at a, at a bar that's in that cup these days, usually the inside is lined with like a stainless steel. Well, I'm sure you two can put it together. I try to keep it a secret, but you now know why my penny collection is so pristine. I have been wondering

about that penny collection. Why is that? I use liquor, Jeff. I soak my pennies in liquor to make them sparkling clean. You know, so, Tim, you were going to say more. Well, the tragedy is a penny is still only worth one cent. It doesn't matter how shiny I get it.

Well, you haven't seen these pennies, Tim. No, I have a couple. I have a couple of hay pennies. Those are worth a bunch. You'll see them and be like, oh, I'll give you a nickel for that one. That one's so shiny. Five, six cents for that one. Hey, yeah, it doesn't sound like that.

You do that 100 times, boom, 500 bucks. If you got that kind of time, go for it. Okay. And math skills. So the Moscow Mule is invented. They're doing a clever thing with the name, right? This drink isn't from Moscow, but they were like, there were other mule, bucks became mules and then like Shanghai Mule and London Mule.

Those are rum or gin. So then like Moscow Mule. Is Smirnoff even a Russian vodka? It is. It is. And so that was like a clever name they came up with. And the drinks, they drink it. I think it takes off in LA.

It's a big thing. And then I read that one person who really loved it was Hera. The guy that ran Hera's Casino, that chain, he lived in Reno. And he was always drinking Moscow Mules in like the 40s. And people were like, Hera loves them. And to this day, I don't know if you've heard of a certain Oprah Winfrey, but it's her favorite cocktail. Really? She loves them, talks about them all

the time, and has like a recipe for the proportions she likes to use. Do you know what Gail or Stedman's favorite cocktails are? Whatever Oprah's drinking. Yeah, we swear. My favorite is Oprah's exact recipe.

So you say it blew up in LA. Well, it looks like that J-Law wasn't the only thing that blew up in Los Angeles. Yes. Bringing it right back to take us into making it? I don't know. Well, making it. No, that was good.

That was strong enough to go out on. Yeah, yeah. God, if I wasn't so tongue-tied. The recipe is 45 milliliters of Smirnoff vodka, so that's an ounce and a half, which is one shot of vodka. Yeah. 120 milliliters of ginger beer, which is

four ounces, half a cup of ginger beer. 10 milliliters of fresh lime juice, which is two teaspoons, half a cup of ginger beer, 10 milliliters of fresh lime juice, which is two teaspoons. And in a mule cup or a rocks glass, combine the vodka and ginger beer, add lime juice and gently stir to involve all ingredients.

Wow. Garnish with a lime slice. Nice. Tim, one more thing. Yeah. I feel like every mule I've seen in the wild had some fucking mint in it, so I picked some up at the grocery store. Wow.

Here I'm looking at the recipe. Wow. No mint. You just went rogue and started buying leaves? And here's the thing. I don't like buying mint. I don't like having a plant in my fridge. What?

This big old sloppy thing of herbs just flopping around my fridge. They don't last long. That's for sure. That's for damn sure. It's floral. It's delicious. You can put it in your iced tea.

Okay, but I needed what? I needed a sprig of five leaves and now I have like 500 mint leaves. Well, but I needed what, like, I needed a sprig of five leaves and now I have like 500 mint leaves. Well, excuse me. I'm mad. Well, you could have followed the recipe and not done any of this. I don't think there's anyone in the world who's worse off than you right

now in this moment, Jeff. Thank you. Well, here's one last little tidbit I wanted to mention because if you recall that I started this off by saying that I was looking down my long nose upon this drink. And the only thing I found, this was actually pretty interesting. I didn't find too many people shit talking it or anything to justify why I thought it was not a not a classy cocktail. But I did find this great eater article talking about better call

saul and on that show i've seen this episode but i i forgot the whole thing about it it's um when kim wexler is getting wooed over to another law firm the guy offers her during lunch offers her a moscow mule and says want mule? And you can have it in the, the original copper cup, like the miners used to use. And it's like really exotic to her. She's like, Oh my God. Like here I am at a, at a law firm where I just eat salads and everything's plain and you want me like it's seen as this exotic power move to drink that drink during the day. And then I guess the writers of that show continued using that as a metaphor for like when Kim is drinking a Moscow mule, it's like that's when she's getting ambitious or wants to act out and that

they kind of use that, that, that, that drink to be like exotic. And I think knowing that show, their version of Albuquerque is very sort of like bland corporate Americana, like kind of a Dunder Mifflin plainness to it. So I could imagine that within the writer's room, we should ask Bob, within the writer's room at Better Call Saul,

I have a feeling that those writers think that this drink is gauche ooh I always thought I sort of made up the history in my mind as I was drinking them but like I always thought the copper cup was like an old like Moscow

things like they that was like a thing you had in like poor people had in Moscow and they put it together I assume there'd be a like a temperature thing behind it where it's like oh this keeps it extra cold but it doesn't it doesn't this is really a good uh this is one of the first and only I mean we've had a couple like this the the Cuba Libre was like this that has like a very definitive story about how this fucking thing was made I gotta think that the copper does keep it cold, though. Like colder than a glass.

Well, copper gets cold, but I don't think that you want your glass. I think you want your glass to be insulating, right? If it's getting cold, that means it's like taking the cold away. No. Are we science guys? You want your outside your cup to be hot. Do we know a lot about science? Not copper science. I feel like Black Cat in L. in LA has really good mules.

And, um, the last time I was there, which was forever ago, I got to the very end of my mule and I was like, man, this is like just served cold. My last sips in this thing are like fucking cold.

So I think there's something to it. Um, what size harmonica were the ice cubes? What size harmonica? Yeah. What key? Novelty necklace size or band leader size? Yeah, you know, like John Popper's golden harmonica.

Very good. Now you have a copper cup, Jeff, at home. Yes. Tim? I do. I swear I know that I had one that I never use, and I'm sure I threw it out, and now I finally need it. It's fine if you don't.

It's fine if you don't, Tim. But I'm so mad. It's like when you throw out old sketch comedy props, and then you've got to go to San Francisco and do the sketch again. But I found this funny little stainless steel mug that I should have used for the mint julep and I'm going to use that just so that I'm not left out of the fun. That'll do.

Alright, this has been a long segment one. Let's get to it. Off we go. See you soon. Alright. We're back, we're back. All right. We're back, we're back. We're in, we're in. We are back live. First sips.

Here we go. Ooh, that's good. It's a ginger bite. A lot of my favorite tastes. It's tart. It's a ginger bite. A lot of my favorite tastes. It's tart. One of them is copper. Oh, yeah, let's see that mug you got there, Jeff. Ooh.

Ooh, that's a mug you want to chug. Nice. I just got this sort of rocks glass here. I've got a funny old-timey prospector steel cup. I do like when you have a metal cup, you get that condensation on the outside. Yeah. It slips right out of your hand. Tim, you look like Daniel Plainview with a straw.

I drink your Moscow Mule milkshake. Moscow Mule shake. Here's a funny thing. First of all, first sip for me, this is fucking delicious. And I mean, this is, it's pretty much as good as a taste can be because I'm not really getting any vodka almost.

It's just a nice, delicious ginger beer with lime. But a funny side note for me, my lime garnish, I squeezed lime wedges in the amount that the IBA told me to. And then I was like, Oh, I want to have a lime wedge for the top of my, uh, cup as a garnish, but my lime was all spent and it wouldn't stay on the top of my cup. So I was like, do I have any more limes that I could use as a garnish? And the only lime that was the end of my line. I looked at my fridge, the end of the line reached at the end of the line.

I look at my fridge. There's a key lime pie. You got a key lime pie in there. I have a key lime pie in my fridge. Wow. And there's lime wedges on top of it. So I stole, I stole limes. You pilfered alive yeah don't tell jessica did

you did you reach past the uh the leftover uh turkey with the little frills on the end of the uh you've got a cartoon fridge over there that paper frills scratched my arm is this what married life is like that you have surprises in your fridge? Pretty much. Ooh, I didn't buy that. That's fun. She's been baking this afternoon. Key lime pies. Jessica ordered it from Bristol Farms via Instacart. But what's funny

is, so I took it and I said, Tim, you're like MacGyver. This is great. And I put the limes there. But then when I was drinking, you know how you get a little bit of a smell. And you try not to be swayed by the smell, but the smell is a part of the drink. It didn't, it doesn't, they don't smell like lime. They like, it was just pungent of key lime pie and they're covered in like a gelatinous

gelatin. Are they like those candy limes? Candy? Key lime is a different flavor. Well, I don't look at these limes. They're covered in jello and they're gross

and it didn't work. Huh. Alright. I didn't have a wedge. I use that lime like, you know when you go to the produce aisle and you get that uh... Squeezer? Plastic lime? Yeah, it looks like a plastic lime but it's got lime juice in it. That's what I got. I did my lime squeezer. You know the squeezer. Yeah. I took like a plastic lime, but it's got lime juice in it. That's what I got. I did my lime squeezer.

You know the squeezer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I took half a lime and just squeezed it right on my ice cubes. Nothing makes me happier. Was half a lime the exact right amount? Uh, yeah. I'll say.

You son of a bitch. I don't know. Here's the thing. I'm starting to learn from this podcast. I'm a lime freak. I'll put a bitch. I don't know. Here's the thing. I'm starting to learn from this podcast. I'm a lime freak. I'll put a little too much lime. Ooh. Lime is amazing.

Think about lime. You put it in your drinks, and then if you want to squeeze it right over your food, you can do that too. Mm-hmm. Cuba Libre, same deal. You really do not taste the liquor in this thing at all. This was reminding me of, I think the most famous buck is a dark and stormy, dark rum and ginger beer, which I love.

This is very similar, but you kind of don't taste the, because vodka is a bit of a chameleon. It's funny, Tim, when you say the most famous buck to me, I think of Giannis Antetokounmpo. Damn, I don't know his last name. The Greek freak?

Yeah, yeah. And Antetokounmpo. Well, you say it in the song. What is it? I say Antetokounmpo. Antetokounmpo, I think. Antetokounmpo, yeah. They're T's, but he kind of says them.

I got to agree with you. Hey, let me ask you this. Yes. Ginger beer, what'd you use? Because isn't that kind of crazy that that's up to you? Use whatever ginger beer you want. It greatly influences the drink. Yeah.

I used some generic thing. It's all the way, it's in the other room, so I'm not going to leave and go find it. But damn it if I can't remember the name of it. Yep. I used a Bundaberg. Oh, Bundaberg is my favorite and I love it. And in fact, I have it so much that I didn't want to use it

because I thought I would be cheating because I like that stuff so much. And I also love Reed's Jamaican ginger ale. I feel like ginger beer is having a moment where a lot of people are jumping on. I hope that moment's almost up. Michael. Not a fan?

Your friends just said they like ginger beer. I don't love ginger beer, and what it keeps me from loving this drink. Right here. See, I'm not a vodka guy. I do not love this drink. Tito's is really the only thing giving vodka a fair shake in my

mind. People forever were like, but you gotta try Tito's. And it's true it somehow is a little better than most vodkas it's one of those things where it's a better vodka it's like cheaper they found a like a cool made in america tito's in my research for booze news i saw that tito's is having three years of you know the biggest growth. It's been like the number one liquor and amongst vodkas, it's like 10 to one Tito's is blowing Smirnoff and Stoli away. Great. Tito's is what I always use. And then when I just want to mix it up, I like kettle one and that's what I'm using today.

But it's weird when you get real fancy with vodkas, I feel like you're wasting money because Belvedere and gray goose they're really good and i'll buy them like if it's a fancy day but they kind of just taste like less like vodka they just are seem like they have water in them or something tim i'm trying i'm trying not to stifle my screams of agony here but remember remember three years ago, I took you out to a nice lunch and I said, this is more of a business lunch. I laid out my stock portfolio

in front of you and said, what vodka do you think is going to take off? And you tell me now. I said, anything but Tito's, Mike. I put it in generic ginger beer. I wonder if you could make a good mule even with shitty vodka. Because if you're using ginger beer, which is pungent, and lime, especially as much as I'm using.

You're masking it. I feel like you might be able to mask some pretty stanky vodka. I think bad vodka, though, or bad any alcohol, really punches through. And that's what makes it bad, is how fully like alcoholic flavor it is. Like, though, or bad any alcohol, really punches through, and that's what makes it bad, is how fully, like, alcohol-y flavor it is. Mike, okay, okay. It's worth, no, I'm just saying. Uncle, uncle. Mike, back off the poor guy.

Jesus Christ. I'm just in a bad mood because of my stock portfolio, my vodka stock portfolio. Hey, you at home, make one of these with some dog shit vodka and tell us what you think. Pop-Off or Crystal. That's the one crystal palace pop off is the is the worst one that i remember the one i've come across that always made me laugh was the vodka prince and it had a picture like a drawing of a prince on the front it was awful i um in high school my friend was on the tennis team and um he was like hey you know i can i can get i can get you booze from the tennis coach if you give me money and i'll have we had one of those tennis coaches that was like trying to be cool and uh he was he was like 22 and was like hey guys yeah i'm going to use um and i gave him 10 bucks and he bought me a bottle of vodka.

And the label was a black paper label that just said vodka. And I had it. I remember being in the locker room and I felt like a god, like a whole bottle of vodka. And I own it. But now I'm thinking I gave him 10 bucks. He probably pocketed like nine of those bucks. We got to get it back.

Yeah, having like a bottle of hard alcohol when you're in high school or college, like you might as well have like gold bullion. It's like such a rare thing. I remember staring at, I had it in my locker for a while. It was like, wow, me, a bottle of vodka. If only they could see me now. I did the same thing in my locker with my books.

I'd say, wow, opportunity to learn and to grow. Wow. My life could improve so much if I read these books. The lime covers up the ginger taste. Like this is a nice, uh, mix of a flavor. You know what I mean? Like ginger beer on its own. I don't really like, but the lime is masking the ginger, which is masking the vodka. It's all a big coverup job. Not unlike, uh, what's going on with Russia these days from what I'm told by the, the

liberal media. Yeah. You hate the liberal media yet. You consume so much of it. I do not by the liberal media. Yeah, you hate the liberal media, yet you consume so much of it. I do not hate the liberal media. I want to be friends with these people. Anderson Cooper, get back to me, please. Let's have Anderson Cooper on the show. I wonder what drink he'd want.

Hey, have you seen what Ryan Seacrest looks like now? No. No. He just looks like a normal man all of a sudden. Really? In what way? Like he doesn't have a spiky haircut? No, I saw him do a New Year's Rockin' Eve or whatever, the Dick Clark thing.

I gotta look this guy up. I was like, who's this guy they keep throwing to? And it was Ryan Seacrest. He just looks like... I mean, you know, everybody gets older. It's just funny that he's a little rounder. His hair doesn't have like the highlights in it. He's a little rounder.

He ages just like the rest of us. Yeah, he's kind of just, well, he's got a floppy quarantine haircut. Yeah, that's part of it, yeah. Did you know that Ryan Seacrest is the executive producer of Keeping Up with the Kardashians? Really? Yeah. He's got his little hands in everything.

In everything? We pitched to Seacrest Productions. Do you guys remember that? Yeah. And he said Seacrest out. Yes, he did. You mean to tell me Ryan Seacrest doesn't want to do a Sloppy Boys podcast movie for IMAX? What did we pitch to him?

Like a reality thing? Back in the Birthday Boys days, it was like we met with some assistant or whatever. A high level assistant. And they were like, yeah, super high, super high. They could green light whatever they wanted. They were just like, yeah, Ryan loves comedy, but it's just got to be smart, you know? We of those we've had a million yeah yeah i don't

think we had ryan level comedy um a man who i this is uh i've always disliked ryan secrets since this moment i was listening to him on the radio because he hosts that he does ryan's roses and and he's on pop radio probably probably nationwide, but definitely here in LA. What's Ryan's Roses? They do a prank. It's like if you want to see if your partner is cheating on you, Ryan will send roses to your partner and call them on the radio or call them and say, you're on the air. We're sending roses to whoever you want to send them to. Tell us, who would you like to send roses to for

free? You just want all these roses. And if the person says their spouse, then they're not cheating. But if they give some other name, then they're cheating. It's really sad. And I've heard from writers in LA that it's fake and that they've written for it. Uh, but I listened to Ryan on the radio one time and he was talking about that when he watches a movie in the movie theater, he looks at his phone and he answers emails and that his friends and staff give him shit for emailing during movies, but he doesn't see anything wrong with it. And that made me dislike it. In a theater? In a movie theater, watching a new movie. That's no good.

Yeah. It's no good. Yeah. That's, that's. It is no good. I don't like the, the Ryan's Roses thing is the first time I'm hearing about it, but fake or not, like he's a, he's a person, a TV personality who's like a nice guy host. Why is he like, and also I prank people to try to break up their relationship. I'll tell you why my theory is that he's really stupid and he has no brain cells he's just bitter the whole industry has made him bitter that's true he's a massive talent

yeah he's a man he's just bitter you know if you knew seacrest 10 15 years ago man he'd be like your favorite dude yeah that's true the way he No, there was a expose about the first season of American Idol. There was a standup comedy man who co-hosted with Ryan Seacrest and then Seacrest purposely sabotaged that guy. Like they'd be on live TV. Remember the first season of American Idol, how huge that was? It was like dominated a whole summer in America. When the show would come back from commercial, he would read both lines on the teleprompter and just take the other guy's lines and leave him standing there like a dumbass. Wow.

That's wild. You know, it's funny. So we're talking about Seacrest and American Idol. It's very music centric. There was like a boom. American Idol is very music centric. It's about time we pointed that out. Well, no, because the thing I'm about to talk about is also a little music centric.

The Mule got popular again in the 70s. I don't know if you came across that at all tim sure it had a little run of shunch and the uh the group the uh village people like really liked him and apparent there was also like this push to like drink responsibly and the the village people were like okay well this drink is coming back. You know, it's disco time. Everyone's sort of out clubbing, getting crazy. But be responsible with it. So they took a song of theirs, and they sort of rearranged some of the lyrics. And they came out with this song for the Moscow Mule.

And I have it here if we want to listen to it. Oh, great. That's awesome. Moscow, Moscow Mule. Moscow, Moscow, yeah. Drink too much, you might act like a fool. Easy on the Moscow, Moscow, Moscow, yeah. Drink responsibly because it's cool. Moscow, Moscow, Moscow, yeah.

Maybe just drink two, Let's make that the rule I'm talking about the Moscow Moscow Mule Oh yeah yeah And no running when you're around the pool Stay safe everyone But have a mule And don't forget to Dance dance dance

Do a split if you can If you can Cur if you can't Curl into a ball and Spin around Do yourself a favor and cut loose With a Moscow Mule But not too much Moscow, Moscow, Moscow Mule

Here we go again. Oh, that was the verse. Too much, you might act like a fool I'm talking about that Moscow, Moscow Mule. Here we go again. Oh, that was the verse. Too much, you might act like a fool. I'm talking about that. Moscow, Moscow Mule. You know what I'm talking about. Drink responsibly because it's cool. It comes in a silver cup.

Moscow, Moscow Mule. I mean gold. Maybe just drink two. Let's make that the rule. Hey, what if this record goes gold? Moscow, Moscow Mule. That would put me in a disco mood. And no running when you're around the...

Woo! Wow. Yeah, they put that together for just a drink responsibly PSA campaign for Moscow Mules. So soulful. So much soul in those voices. Didn't lose any of the beat. Didn't lose any of that dancey Uh, didn't lose any of that, uh, dancey infectious, uh, swag. No, no, they wanted, they, they were, they were steadfast when they

went into the album or the, uh, uh, studio to record this. They were steadfast. We want to keep that dancey beat. Here's what I love about it. Yeah. A lot of songs tell you to do things and you're like, well, I can't do that. This song specifies if you can. So if I can't personally roll up into a ball, it says if you can, then do it. If you can't, well, then they give you another option. Whatever else you can do,

try it. Try it out. And they're saying, don't have too many. You can have one or two. Let's have two. Let's make that the rule. But also, we are making the, you can have one or two. Let's have two. Let's make that the rule. But also, we are making the song, do have one. Yes. Definitely do have one.

Yeah. It's kind of like the middle way the Buddha would be proud. Right. I think that's also what they were talking about in the studio a lot during that time. But I don't think, yeah, it's about, you know, getting on the dance floor, having a Moscow mule, and a Moscow mule and a moscow mule sort of loosens you up and you'll have a lot more fun up in a ball what was that yeah curl if you can't do a split they said if you can't do a split curl into a ball and spin around like maybe like a

break dancing that's what i was led to believe this is before break dancing was big in the 80s so it was kind of like a we're figuring it out but try this that's fucking cool man i love it really interesting yeah it's right you do a little digging on some of this uh this older stuff i find i find it really i personally find it really interesting some of this older stuff whether it's like for example songs about the moscow mule or just other stuff that is previous to now. Other older stuff. History stuff. I like history.

I like music history. Oh, you're a history junkie. Pop culture. Yeah. Yeah. I like that kind of stuff. Well, that song definitely renewed my interest in this cocktail. Good.

I'm drinking it with more vigor. Yeah. I might even have like a third or fourth cocktail. Oh. Duh. No. No, you're right. Listen to the song, my man.

I caught myself because I remembered the song. I was going to try to do a split and then I realized I could just roll around in a ball. Like Sonic. Folks, we're having a great time with these mules. We're going to take a break and we'll come back with our final thoughts after this. Oh, hell yeah.

Musco, musco mule. I kind of like that. I kind of like that too. It's got a certain musco mule. And then they mentioned having fun at the pool, being safe at the pool. I love it all. It could also do a thing with their other song. M-U-L-E. I really like to drink a M-U-L-E. I really like to drink

M-U-L-E. Oh, yeah. That is good. Hey, folks. We're back. Moscow Mule in hand. Oh, baby. Here are our final thoughts. I'll go first because I'm not going to be the popular one here.

This is a good drink. It's not a bad drink. It's not something I personally order. Yes, I will get it on board with a huge one for novelty's sake. I like the size of those ice cubes that were in it. I mentioned that earlier, much earlier in the podcast. This is good. It tastes good. I think two in a row of these is a little strong taste

for me. And you are on the record as a non-ginger guy. I like ginger ale. I like the root itself. Don't really love ginger beer. I like the root itself. Don't really love ginger beer.

Oh, here's a little did you know. I learned this just today in my research. Guess what is the difference between ginger ale and ginger beer? I don't know. Oh, that's a good. That's funny. I never thought of ginger ale as like being an ale. You know, ginger beer.

Ginger ale is sugar no they're both pretty sugary aren't they the difference is ginger ale is carbonated water with ginger flavoring so it's a soda you got your your seltzer or whatever you're putting putting in sugary ginger syrup ginger beer is brewed so it's actually the bubbles and stuff are a result of like a brewing process made from ginger. Is I would assume ginger beer is more expensive on the, on the average. Yep.

Average. Have you guys ever had alcoholic ginger beer? No, no, I have. And it's great. And it, the one I had was a, had a little bit of that like

it was like half carbonated it was like a little flat like a british ale and it wasn't super sweet either like it wasn't as sweet as a bundaberg thank you for the proper pronunciation. Anytime. Lunderberg. Final thoughts, T? My final thought is I think it's delicious. I'm a ginger guy, unlike my cohort, Mike. Love ginger ale. Thank you for being nice with that. Oh, the words that flash through my head.

Yeah. Bad man. Negative, suppressive personality. Dunderheaded, foolish dick. Dick and brain, both small. No. Hey, hey, hey. I love ginger.

And oh, by the way, I had Gosling's ginger beer because i was trying to branch out from my typical ryan gosling's ryan gosling himself you know the one that's got a seal on the label up a baby seal oh that's what i got it's kind of cheap right it's cheap it's very popular at bars and it's a it is a rum brand so i was trying to get something that i thought was pretty standard because i couldn't find cock and Bull, which they still make. The original one is still on the market. So if you're making one at home, folks, if you can find Cock and Bull ginger beer, make it with that. Instagram us.

We'll give you a share. But I love this Gosling's and I loved it in the drink. And this, I love lime. and I loved it in the drink. And this, I love lime. To me, this tastes, if you're just going on taste, this is, to me,

it was as good as anything we've had on this pod. It's refreshing. It's, I do want another round. I could have 10 of these in a night. It's a real drinkable glugger chugger. Yeah. And I started today with a hypothesis that maybe this was a drink of a tacky gauche gaudy basic person and i i've decided i've proven my hypothesis false it's delicious i love

it and that's great and and i will give you, that's big of you to say my theory. I would defend its honor with my heart. Well, Tim, thanks for fact checking your friend there. This is a great drink and no two ways about it. It's got limes in it. For me,

a little bit of mint. It's a fuck load of ice cubes. Super, super cold. And then if you use a decent vodka, see, I've had like a Kentucky mule because in general, I'm maybe more of a whiskey guy

than a vodka guy. But I do think as mules go, the way to go is with a vodka like a Tito's. But here's the thing. I think we have to discount all of your results because you put

mint in it which is not regulation well surely not all of my results okay some of your results he said with that dutton glint in his eye tell us about the mug it looks it looks great it is shiny and glowing with condensation. Yes. Did you feel like this got extra? That does look like a thick. Yeah, thick as a brick. That doesn't look like a little thin.

I think of the dimpled ones that are hammered. Yeah. Hear that? Yeah. Donk, donk. That's how you know it's good. Well, the inside has the brushed aluminum look. My mom put this in my stocking several Christmases ago.

Hey, that's a nice stocking stuffer. Way to go, Mrs. Dutz. Yeah, way to go, Dutz. And then, I call my mom Dutz. And then, I got to say, I'm getting down to the way bottom, and it's as cold as it's ever been. That's great. When exactly, when you're drinking a drink on the rocks,

when do you get to the warm bottom? Beers get warm. Cocktails don't get warm. Everything gets warm until you put it in a nice copper. Well, Jeff, I'm sorry that I insinuated that you are a basic bitch. No, no. Well, Tim, I do think you're right that like, we all remember Mojitos, the moment Mojitos had.

Yeah. Maybe 10 years ago. And now I feel like that kind of feels like, oh, what are we talking about? Paris Hilton and Panic at the Disco? What are we doing? Damn. We're past all that.

Are you saying that Moscow Mules have replaced the Mojito? Yeah. And T, I think you might be right that the Moscow mule backlash is moments away. I think people are going to turn on this. Probably after this episode. Unjustly. Unjustly. Well, Jeff, I always, when I think of Moscow mule, I think of you.

This is your drink. Probably because you own that mug. Yeah, yeah. You're the mule fool. Hey, maybe you should like the drink a little more, huh? Reminds you of your friend. It makes me want to go to the Tamishanter and get the big communal one,

and then we're scooping it out. Hey, give me two scoops. I'll have four scoops, I believe. Well, folks, that's it for the Moscow Mule. We got a little mail, folks. Ooh. Ooh. Hey. Robert Persinger asks,

Hey, guys, loving the show. I was just listening to the Cuba Libre episode and Dutton was right on the money about Beetlejuice's tropical aspirations, especially since there was an unmade sequel where he would have found himself in Hawaii. Really? Yes.

The wild, unmade sequel, Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian. where he would have found himself in Hawaii. Really? Yes. The wild, unmade sequel, Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian. Thanks for all the laughs, Robert Persinger. Interesting. There's apparently Beetlejuice, before it was made into what it is, it was a full-on horror movie. The script was a full-on horror script.

And Beetlejuice was depicted at certain parts of it very insensitively I think as a Middle Eastern chic. So the story is much different than it is now but I don't really I read one of these like 10 facts about Beetlejuice after I watched the movie once

and that was one that stuck out to me. I can't believe that solely based on the song Deo, Jeff, you were able to ascertain that Beetlejuice had tropical aspirations. And now it has been confirmed. And we're just going to read this email and take it at face value. And we're not going to look into this at all. He linked to a Screen Rant article. Screen Rant is basically like my Washington Post. We didn't mention this before, but Tropical Aspirations is the next Sloppy Boys album title.

It's simply less. Oh, hell yeah. We do have Tropical Aspirations. It says here there was a script written by Jonathan Gems that followed the Dietz family as they moved to Hawaii to develop a vacation resort. As construction begins, it's quickly found that the resort is planned atop an ancient burial ground, of course.

Enter Beetlejuice, who would accidentally awake native spirits and cause mayhem. Make it. You could still make that. With Michael Keaton. He was so fun. Beetlejuice is a, he's a funny character and he's not in it much.

Put him in the makeup. In the first like edit or whatever, he wasn't in it that much. And Tess audiences like loved the Beetlejuice guy. And they added the whole thing at the end with him in the checkout. Like they, they made sure to end the movie with him because he was clearly the draw.

It's such a performance. It's such a big swing that could have gone so poorly when he's like, you losers! Or he's just so big with it. It's so funny. Nice effing model. If we raise enough money with our Patreon, maybe we could fund

the Hawaiian sequel. Ooh, that'd be fun. We could get invited to set maybe. Yeah. I bet if we raise money for a year, we could maybe buy them a few C-stands. Yeah. We could buy them all the trail mix for craft services. Well, if you've got a question for the boys, you can email us at thesloppyboyspodcast

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